Report: Over 30 million permanently affected by Fukushima radiation; Number of people exposed triples Chernobyl — Japan Professor: 14,000 sq. kilometers heavily contaminated; Millions including kids and infants are exposed everyday after being abandoned by gov’t, it is very bizarre (AUDIO)

Published: March 14th, 2015 at 7:32 pm ET
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Nuclear Hotseat hosted by Libbe HaLevy, Mar 10, 2015 (emphasis added): Translated interview with Prof. Hiroaki Koide, Kyoto University Research Reactor Institute (at 31:30 in) – “Because of the radiation dispersed due to the accident a large area of Japan… has been contaminated… It looks like the national government is simply going to abandon these people. Moreover, surrounding the 386 square mile evacuation zone where these people live, there is a 5,400 square mile [14,000 square kilometer] area that is heavily contaminated. If Japan were a country under the rule of law, this would be a restricted access area where people should not be allowed to live due to radiation. The several million people who live there have been cast aside and told if you want to leave, go ahead and do it on your own. The government feigns ignorance. These millions of people, including children and infants, go about their daily lives in this area being exposed to radiation as if there’s no problem at all… I think this is very bizarre. Additionally there has been no resolution at the accident site… from my vantage point, the accident is not under control at all.”

Green Cross International (NGO founded by Mikhail Gorbachev, former President of the Soviet Union), Mar 11, 2015: 32 million people in Japan still exposed to radiation from the Fukushima nuclear disaster… according to the 2015 Fukushima Report now available from Green Cross… [They are] at potential risk from both long and short-term consequences… Japan is expected to see increased cancer risk… Chernobyl and the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant disasters were categorized as level 7 events – defined as a major release of radioactive material, with widespread effects, requiring planned and extended countermeasures… “However, the number of people affected by radiation in Japan has tripled compared to Chernobyl,” said Nathalie Gysi of Green Cross Switzerland… water leakage at the Fukushima Daiichi power plant remains a problem four years after… There continue to be… rising doubts over the safety of seafood, such as radioactivity levels in tuna and other fish… The Fukushima Report was prepared under the direction of [Dr. Jonathan M. Samet, MD, Professor at the USC School of Medicine and chair of Preventive Medicine]… using the same measurement standards as a similar 2012 study on Chernobyl… The lives of approximately 42 million people have been permanently affected by radioactive contamination caused by… Chernobyl and Fukushima Daiichi… Continued exposure to low-level radiation, entering the human body on a daily basis through food intake, is of particular consequence.

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310 comments to Report: Over 30 million permanently affected by Fukushima radiation; Number of people exposed triples Chernobyl — Japan Professor: 14,000 sq. kilometers heavily contaminated; Millions including kids and infants are exposed everyday after being abandoned by gov’t, it is very bizarre (AUDIO)

  • rogerthat

    http://national.bgnnews.com/nuclear-plant-intervention-by-council-of-judges-and-prosecutors-haberi/4322

    Nuclear plant intervention by council of judges and prosecutors

    The Supreme Council of Judges and Prosecutors (HSYK) has changed the judges overseeing the cases surrounding the nuclear power plant being built in the Akkuyu district of the southern province of Mersin.

    Frequently criticized for its interfering with highly critical cases, Turkey’s Supreme Board of Judges and Prosecutors (HSYK) has replaced the judges overseeing the cases filed against the nuclear power plant being built Mersin’s Akkuyu district.

    An indictment had been filed with the Mersin Administrative Court with regards to the Akkuyu plant’s Environmental Impact Assessment Report. The HSYK issued the directive to change the judges of the administrative court on February 5th, replacing veteran justices Şenol Coşkun and Metin Sarıkurt with inexperienced new ones who had only been appointed judgeships 4 months prior.

    In place of Mersin 1st Administrative Court Judge Şenol Coşkun, who was reassigned to Taxation Court, the HSYK appointed Okan Ok, the nephew of Council of State Justice Selami Demirkol who is known for his close ties to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. Last summer the HSYK had also issued a directive replacing the chief of the Mersin 1st Administrative Court with Justice Fatih Zencirci instead. Zencirci was the Mersin representative of the government-backed Unity in the…


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  • Arto's latest investigation gives me the shakes….
    you need to get cam access to all of japan's reactors….
    Arto believes that all of Japan's reactors went dead…30sec without elec they're belly up….all the transformers blew…
    they are ALL on the same electric grid….
    i really cannot believe this revelation…but the science and evidence holds…GIC (geomagnetic induced current DC)…

    https://youtu.be/38rFInEFsYU


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    • Sol Man

      Arto is always interesting. Thanks for the information.

      At 31:49 he notes that 135 reactors were destroyed and through the presentation explains how this came about.

      What is the solution for these plutonium ion cloud, neutron radiation generating machines that do no good. No good at all anywhere!


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      • PlowboyGrownUp

        Seems Arto explained in an earlier video that all of the NPP companies in Finland also have coal fired plants, which make money. The NPP's don't make money, they just get credit for "green" which makes up for the coal.


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    • General User General User

      @wynd
      I give Arto great respect, but must disagree on the 'all one grid' statement. Northern Honshu has 50 cycle "British" power (50 Hertz). Tokyo has 60 Hertz power like USA.
      It is not possible to interconnect those differences.

      Peace All


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  • rogerthat

    http://fukushima-diary.com/2015/03/highest-density-of-cs-134137-detected-at-2-locations-of-reactor-2-seaside-4-x-as-the-previous-highest-reading/

    … The readings were 303,000 Bq/m3 and 20,700 Bq/m3, which are 2 〜 4 times much as the previous highest readings from these borings.

    There are 10 observation wells in Reactor 2 seaside, but Tepco did not publish the analysis result of the rest of 8 boring wells.


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  • rogerthat

    http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2015/03/341661.html

    Activists discuss nuclear accident as Japan gov't remains reluctant
    By Kayo Mimizuka
    SENDAI, March 16, Kyodo

    Activists and academics from around the globe on Monday discussed risks of nuclear accidents, criticizing the Japanese government's reluctance to share its experience in the nuclear crisis in Fukushima during a U.N. disaster conference in Sendai.

    Representatives of civil society groups argued what lessens can be learned from the nuclear accident triggered by the earthquake and tsunami in March 2011 in northeastern Japan, using a booklet named "10 Lessons From Fukushima" that says, "Do not be fooled by the 'Nuclear Power is Safe' propaganda."

    The booklet, published in multiple languages such as Chinese, English and Japanese, lays out measures to reduce risks of a nuclear accident and to protect communities when it occurs. …

    To have fuller access to the Kyodo News website, it is necessary to subscribe.


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  • rogerthat

    http://www.abqjournal.com/555711/news/roof-collapses-pose-safety-risk-at-wipp.html

    … At last count, there were believed to be 368 containers underground with waste akin to that packed in the drum of Los Alamos waste that breached a year ago: 313 of them in the various rooms of Panel 6, and 55 of them in Room 7 of Panel 7.

    “There are potentially dual threats of exploding drums and crushed drums if you have the ceiling collapse,” said Don Hancock, a longtime WIPP watchdog at Albuquerque’s Southwest Research and Information Center. “And everybody knows that is a problem.”

    NMED ordered WIPP to seal off Panel 6 and Room 7 of Panel 7 in an administrative order last May.

    WIPP responded with a plan to isolate the containers bearing the mix of nitrate salts and organic kitty litter: chain link to block the entrances, brattice cloth to restrict the air flow, mined salt pushed up against both to prevent containers from falling over and, lastly, a steel bulkhead.

    The plan amounts to an “initial,” not permanent, closure, however.

    “The initial closure is not designed to give 100 percent protection” from a radiation release, Hancock said. “The bulkhead and brattice cloth should reduce what would come out, but it is not designed as a total or more permanent barrier if there is a roof fall or breach.”

    A roof fall was one of the safety risks studied in the exhaustive Supplemental Environmental Impact Statement prepared ahead of WIPP’s opening in 1999. …


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    • rogerthat

      It included an evaluation of the facility’s plans to keep the salt ceiling from fracturing before panels are permanently sealed.

      NMED says a more permanent closure – sealing off the panels with an explosion isolation wall, for example – will require a permit modification, which is a public process.

      Nuclear Waste Partnership, the site contractor, had expected to close Panel 6 before the end of last year and Room 7 of Panel 7 by early this year. But radiological contamination, limitations on the number of workers and equipment that can be used due to poor ventilation underground and the months of missed maintenance have slowed the effort.

      An example of the obstacles WIPP faces: Because WIPP is carved from salt, the underground ceiling must be continuously bolted to prevent dangerous roof falls, like the one that happened in January outside Panel 3. NWP recovery managers said that roof-bolting began after a nine-month hiatus in November in the uncontaminated areas and resumed in the contaminated areas in January.

      “The teams are making very good progress in the bolting area,” said Tammy Reynolds, deputy recovery manager, during a recent town hall meeting. “They’ve actually doubled some of the original projections of how many bolts they would place in a day.”

      NMED Resource Protection Division Director Kathryn Roberts said WIPP “has been working valiantly” to achieve the panel closures safely. …


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  • rogerthat

    http://oakridgetoday.com/2015/03/14/orau-receives-23-million-contract-for-doe-worker-screening-program/

    ORAU receives $23 million contract for DOE worker screening program
    MARCH 14, 2015
    BY DAWN HUOTARI

    The Department of Energy has awarded ORAU a five-year, $23 million contract to continue managing its National Supplemental Screening Program. ORAU has managed this worker health screening program for DOE since 2005.

    The screening programs are free for former energy workers who may have been exposed to hazardous substances at work. …

    These screenings are designed to identify certain occupational diseases, such as respiratory illnesses or cancers. …

    - hmm


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  • rogerthat

    http://mainichi.jp/english/english/newsselect/news/20150314p2a00m0na010000c.html

    Mainichi
    Mar 17, 2015
    Fukushima residents find it hard to come to terms with interim storage for tainted soil

    Contaminated soil is unloaded by a crane after being transported to a storage site where the government plans to build a temporary storage facility, in Okuma, Fukushima Prefecture, on March 13, 2015. Radiation-shielding flexible containers are lined up near the crane and a truck. (Mainichi)

    OKUMA, Fukushima — Soil tainted with radioactive substances from the crippled nuclear power station was delivered for the first time on March 13 to a site where the government plans to build a temporary storage facility.

    Only 12 cubic meters of tainted soil in so-called flexible containers was transferred to the site on the first day. The government has yet to show a work schedule as to when it will finish transporting tainted soil whose total volume is equal to filling Tokyo Dome 18 times. There is no guarantee that the government will abide by its promise to store tainted soil there for no more than 30 years. Therefore, the delivery of contaminated soil has left many questions unanswered for local residents.

    The governments of Okuma and Futaba made a painful decision to accept the central government's storage plan, but local residents, particularly land owners and leaseholders, were watching the first delivery of tainted soil with mixed feelings.

    "It is said that the…


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    • rogerthat

      negotiations between the government and landowners on land procurements have made little headway, but there has been no negotiations with us. We can't go along with the start of delivery at this stage," said a 66-year-old woman who has her house on a tract of land where the government plans to build a temporary storage facility.

      Her house is located within a three-kilometer radius of the crippled Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant. Even before the Fukushima Prefectural Government decided to accept the central government's plan to build a temporary storage facility there, the woman had shown understanding of the plan, saying, "Unless some place accepts it, there will be no reconstruction for Fukushima." But even if she sold her property to the state, it would remain unclear how the tract of land would be used and whether she would be able to go there again.

      She also wonders how the government will haul "important things that are irreplaceable with money" out of her house and decontaminate them. Although there are so many things she wants to confirm, she says she has not received any clear explanations from the government. "Although landowners' questions remain unanswered, it appears to me that things are forcibly moving ahead," she said. …


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      • rogerthat

        http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/calls-to-oust-top-chief-over-nuclear-deal-296354211.html

        Winnipeg Free Press

        Calls to oust northern grand chief over nuclear waste storage deal
        Harper has pact to study waste-storage feasibility

        By Alexandra Paul
        03/15/2015 | Comments: 14

        A group of First Nations has demanded the removal of northern Manitoba's grand chief over an agreement to fund a study worth more than $300,000 on the risks of storing nuclear waste in the Canadian Shield.

        Manitoba adopted nuclear-free status in 1987, ruling out any storage of spent nuclear fuel from commercial or research reactors.

        But David Harper, chief of Manitoba Keewatinowi Okimakanak (MKO), which represents northern First Nations, negotiated a two-year, $312,689 funding agreement this winter with the Nuclear Waste Management Organization (NWMO), a federal body that oversees management of spent nuclear fuel from commercial and research reactors.

        None of the nine proposed disposal sites being considered by the NWMO is in Manitoba, but at least one — at Ignace in northwestern Ontario, 460 kilometres east of Winnipeg — is part of the Nelson River watershed covering territory stretching westward to Alberta.

        Swampy Cree Tribal Council chiefs denounced any consideration of a deal, citing a moratorium approved by MKO last year on storing or moving nuclear waste through Cree territory.

        "I was shocked to find out that MKO Grand Chief Harper signed an agreement …


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        • rogerthat

          with the Nuclear Waste Management Organization without our knowledge or our consent," council head Nelson Genaille said in a statement issued Thursday.

          The council, it said, would take no further part in the activities of the MKO executive "until such time as Grand Chief Harper has been removed from office due to a lack of trust to follow the directions of his member communities."

          As chief of the Sapotaweyak Cree Nation, one of seven First Nations within the Swampy Cree Tribal Council (SCTC), Genaille led a protest this winter against Manitoba Hydro's plans to run the Bipole III transmission corridor from northern to southern Manitoba through its land claim.

          Harper has defended the nuclear deal, saying similar funding was provided to First Nations in Ontario and Saskatchewan. The agreement, he says, involves strictly a study of the issues, not a commitment to having spent fuel around.

          On Thursday, he dismissed any notion of resigning.
          "Step down for doing my job? I don't think so," he told the Free Press in a text message. "I'm just abiding by the MKO constitution which states, 'Protect First Nations.' "

          The council's statement broke open weeks of brewing opposition to any consideration of a nuclear site, whatever the proximity. Chiefs were privately furious with MKO.

          Any threat to pull out of the executive council, which acts on behalf of the full assembly of 30 chiefs, would hardly cripple its activity. But it sends a clear signal its…


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  • rogerthat

    leadership is operating under a cloud.

    Opponents say MKO, hit by government cutbacks and funding scandals, is desperate for the money and has paid little heed to the possibility of waste being stored in Manitoba or passing through it.
    The SCTC includes the First Nations of Mathias Colomb, Marcel Colomb, Sapotaweyak, Wuskwi Sipihk, Grand Rapids, Mosaskahiken and Chemawawin.

    Mathias Colomb Cree Chief Arlen Dumas, who has led protests against mining development in Pukatawagan, northeast of The Pas, said chiefs had "lost all faith" in Harper.

    "MKO has absolutely no legal, political or moral authority to act on our behalf in relation to our aboriginal or treaty rights," Dumas said …


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  • rogerthat

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-11/don-quixote-village-in-spain-bets-future-on-nuclear-waste-dump

    Don Quixote Village in Spain Bets Future on Nuclear Waste Dump

    by Maria Tadeo
    March 12

    (Bloomberg) — The hamlet of Villar de Canas has a remedy for its economic woes: a nuclear waste dump in its backyard.

    The village in the central Spanish region of Castille-La Mancha that’s steeped in tales of Don Quixote is trying to claw out of the country’s worst slump in more than half a century.

    The village and many of its 400 residents are looking to the 900 million-euro ($949 million) storage facility planned by the government to bring jobs and stop the exodus of young people. …


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    • GOM GOM

      Rodger. Sounds a lot like Utah. 'Bring us all your Hazmat stuff, well take care of it. Hell, we'll burn it too!' Now, N. Utah is the sickest place in America.
      I find it hilarious that the Don Quixote character lost his sanity..


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  • cosmic charlie cosmic charlie

    One rarely sees words parsed for impact like "permanently affected" in the reporting on Fukushima. With the biospheric load up to 3,000 billion lethal doses from just 70 billion prior to Japan's melt downs, you can be damn sure a lot folks will be affected.

    The World Health Disinformation Organization has already predicted a surge in cancers but has stated the causes to be of a "lifestyle" nature. Let them try to explain then why healthy people and innocent children will succumb to these illnesses in the same numbers as our more epicurean bretheran. Women and children are the most at risk. This is easy to confirm if you look at pre Fukushima rates of breast cancer. My prediction is that down the road most humans will develop cancer and it will become rather routine in the public mind.


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  • rogerthat

    http://www.pressenza.com/2015/03/nuclear-waste-out-of-sight-not-out-of-mind/

    Nuclear Waste: Out of sight, NOT out of mind
    16.03.2015 – Dr. Gordon Edwards

    Canada’s nuclear waste producers are looking for a place to abandon 50,000 tonnes of nuclear fuel waste. This waste is extremely toxic, very long-lived, and virtually indestructible. More is being produced every day. The amount is expected to double over the next 30 years.

    The industry’s idea is to dig a hole and bury the waste deep inside an undisturbed geological formation (without disturbing it?) and then, eventually, walk away from it. Abandon it. Thereby, in effect, limiting the corporation’s liability and passing on the responsibility of coping with any alarming leakage of radioactivity to future generations, without actually providing future generations with the resources or the knowledge to deal with the problem.

    To the critics, it seems like a self-serving philosophy: “Out of sight, Out of mind”; “Now you see it, Now you don’t”; “You bury the waste over there and we’ll keep producing it over here.”

    Despite more than half a century of effort, there is no operating waste repository for irradiated nuclear fuel anywhere in the world. Two deep geologic repositories in Germany, designed to hold nuclear wastes far less radioactive than irradiated nuclear fuel, have failed because of radioactive leakage and structural collapse. Last year, the only deep geologic repository in North America …


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    • rogerthat

      for storing nuclear wastes far less dangerous than irradiated fuel, was abruptly closed until 2018 at the earliest — because a barrel of nuclear waste exploded 750 metres underground, spreading plutonium dust throughout the underground tunnels and contaminating 22 workers at the surface.

      Canada’s nuclear waste producers know that if they cannot convince the political decision-makers and the public that the nuclear waste problem is “solved”, the industry may not be allowed to continue.

      In other words, the corporations in question may not be allowed to continue making more nuclear waste indefinitely into the future.

      The Nuclear Waste Management Organization (NWMO) was created by the nuclear waste producers to find a “willing host community” to accept all of Canada’s nuclear fuel waste.

      The Canadian Coalition for Nuclear Responsibility (CCNR) has criticized this entire undertaking for three main reasons:

      (1) the NWMO has a built-in conflict of interest because it is not independent from the nuclear waste producers;

      (2) burying nuclear waste in one location will never solve the problem as long as additional nuclear waste is continually being produced and stockpiled at several other locations;

      (3) it is scientifically and ethically unjustified to abandon highly toxic materials when safety cannot be proven; ongoing monitoring and repackaging (Rolling Stewardship) is necessary to provide remediation when needed. …

      For these and other reasons, m


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      • rogerthat

        For these and other reasons, many people consider it wrong to lend credibility to the NWMO by entering into financial agreements and accepting money from that organization — money that can easily be interpreted as hush money or bribes to enable the nuclear waste producers to continue mass-producing the most toxic industrial wastes ever produced on planet Earth.


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        • GOM GOM

          Roger. The Rear-End upper echelon Mother-Fuckers who run these mega inter-connected corporations live in pristine environments far away from their death machines.
          People assume that the really toxic shit goes in 'poorer' countries, cities, towns..' Like hell it does. I have studied enough human pollution to know that these REMF, and their minions, will sell you a house built on a slag site, and not even blink. Or build a kids park on a toxic dump. Most don't know or believe we are tied with China as being the most polluted. It is well hidden.
          No one should step foot, no less swim, in ANY OCEAN WATERS surrounding the entire US coastline. Anyone can go to the govt websites, they even say it too polluted.
          Yep, kill us all for a fucking buck..
          Rant off.


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  • rogerthat

    http://www.nirs.org

    GreenWorld, NIRS' blog, is at http://www.safeenergy.org

    March 16, 2015

    The most important state action this year

    Today NIRS and our colleagues at Nuclear Energy Information Service (NEIS) in Chicago kicked off the most important state-level action we’ll be doing all year: taking on Exelon’s full-court press for a bailout of its aging, uneconomic nuclear fleet in Illinois.

    If you’re in Illinois, tell your legislators to reject Exelon’s proposed bailout legislation and instead to support the Clean Jobs Act, which would encourage renewable energy and energy efficiency.

    If you’re not in Illinois, but know someone who is, send them this article, or the link to the NIRS’ action page. Or you can send them the Alert we sent out today to people in Illinois.

    Exelon is spending millions on campaign contributions and other lobbying efforts to force Illinois residents to pay more for their electricity in order to prop up Exelon’s failed reactors. Here’s just one of several articles on Exelon’s spending spree.

    No one on the clean energy side has the means to counter Exelon’s dollars, of course, so we have to rely on people power. But that’s what clean energy advocates do best. And that’s what makes this battle winnable. Not easy, by any means. And it will take everyone concerned about Illinois’ energy future, not to mention their own wallets, reaching out to their friends and neighbors to make sure every single person possible contacts their…


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    • rogerthat

      legislators.

      It sometimes seems like we’ve written endlessly about this issue already on GreenWorld; it’s certainly been a major topic for a year now.

      Here’s our most recent piece–Tim Judson’s breakdown of what Exelon wants, both from its proposed legislation as well as from other governmental and regulatory bodies as well.

      And here’s our quick recent look at the politics of the situation. Searching through GreenWorld with the keyword “Exelon” will bring up at least a dozen more articles with background on the issue.

      Continue reading at http://www.safeenergy.org


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  • PhilipUpNorth

    So, 4 years ago, Fukushima looked about like this:

    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Wn7NhsowgXc/TYH10FwR0bI/AAAAAAAAGCY/pdrx4mZ60TY/s640/Fukushima.jpg

    The question remains, TEPCO:
    What happened at Unit4, to make it blow up so bad? ;)


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    • And I have spent a lot of time searching many (hundreds, at least) photos from the site. I never was able to find that, "unit-4 spent-fuel pool".
      Has anyone else seen the fuel-pool?
      It was a ten-story building. Before Tepco covered it up (ha), they cut it down to a four-story building. Problem? The fuel-pool was UP TOP (not fourth floor), so, from whence did the, "unit-four offload" (scam) originate?

      I'll never forget the jo(urinal)ists who allowed themselves to be BLINDFOLDED before getting close to, "Fukushima Daiichi". The fact that most people who watched it on the teevee missed that is beyond stupid. In fact, I believe the repeaters who went, "into unit-4", left the blindfolding in the report for a reason..


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    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

      Hey PUN, question of the century.;)
      I have not heard talk of the Equipment Pool. I guess something may have been in there. That is a nice sized hole, with something oozing out. :)
      http://postimg.org/image/5jmgqlyoj/
      It is the right location, and a like sized hole on the southside as well.
      SO, did they unload the EQ Pool?

      They now are prepping to remove #3 fuel. hahahahahahaha


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      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        AirSep, I take the description of the hole in the north wall of unit 4 to be misleading. The hole is not under the equipment pool. Any melt from the pool would have to traverse horizontally 50 feet before "oozing" out the hole. The hole is at the level of the bottom of the pool, but over some 50 feet. Would corium do that?

        The second thing is that the yellow and white stuff has not only oozed but blasted out, which one can see in other photos. It blasted out more than 50 feet. We dont know for sure what the yellow and white stuff is. I think it may be from a heat exchanger, the white stuff being sections of tubing.

        It seems more likely that an explosion of something IN LINE with the hole blasted the yellow/white stuff into the wall and punched out the panel, which went flying, perhaps simultaneously to the explosion that blew the other walls out. Notice its symmetrical to the hole in the south wall. What was between the two holes?

        The salient point is that the spent fuel pool was the likely source for generation of hydrogen, which would have destroyed the spent fuel, meaning the safe removal was a farce. Thats my supposition at this point. Anyone who asserts the SFP was safely emptied MUST first answer the question; How did the building get blown to smithereens?


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        • AirSepTech AirSepTech

          It is a f-ing mystery, is it not? The chicken or the egg?

          Heck of a blast. Nice dark smoke from the so of the building!

          As you have said, west side blown to hell also.

          EQ pool H2-ing madly? Blowout east to west? Sumpthin in that 'ally way' got very pissed off. What was the heat source for the obvious 'melt' with no smoke or soot marks above that area? The list is to loooonnnng. ;( Makes my head hurt. :)
          Is the top of the EQ pool at the same level as the top of the blown out panel, and one panel west? IDK about fuel rod melt either, seems to 'odd'.

          Degenerate I know, love this damn building and its blown to shit mystery. Keep it alive, maybe it can be solved.


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          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            AirSep…the top of the blown out panels on the north and south side are at the same height as the top of the fuel and equipment pools. So essentially, the north and south holes are in a line with each other…on a north to south axis, and are on the same level as the SFP. The floor on the top of the blasted panels has been melted…I could imagine powerful blasts of super heated steam, eroding the concrete. Then some areas in that same floor level were blasted out. This is the level that remains, having removed the top levels and installed the super structure. No black smoke marks on the outside…we dont know the inside. If there was a heat exchanger…could melted fuel have migrated into it under pressure, then blasted out? The blasted panels are no joke…I estimate 3 feet thick, fully reinforced with rebar…and they went flying. This is no anomaly, there must be a reason. I dont see the logic in thinking the equipment pool load melted to corium then went sideways before melting a hole and oozing out. This is a wrong assumption IMO. cont…


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            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              a highly speculative possibility; there was fuel in the reactor, despite claims it was all unloaded. TEPCO is 90% lies! The reactor had a meltdown, maybe some of it got squeezed into a heat exchanger, super-heating water…I know, too speculative!…Meanwhile the SFP was boiling off, creating hydrogen while destroying the fuel assemblies. The heat exchanger…if there even IS one, finally had a massive steam explosion, blasting out its north and south ends at the same time igniting the hydrogen. The hydrogen explosion was very symmetrical, with a bias to the east wall and the building corners. It seems the two blasted panels with the melted stuff have an independent reason for their existence…


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              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising Jesus

                It isn't speculation. They had made and installed a new shroud for MOX fuel, xome of the MOX fuel was in the equipment pool and some was already loaded into the core and in the process of being loaded in. The building was warped because it was much worse than a hydrogen esxplosion. The proof is in the corrium leaking out of the side of the building from the equipment pool, and all the infrored photos which showed heat in the core and equipment pool and the spent fuel pool.


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                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    PJ, do you agree with Troy Livingstons assessment of unit 4? I think he missed it a little by not looking closely enough at the photo evidence.


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                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising Jesus

                      CCode, have you seen Troy Livinston's commentary and photos?

                      https://www.facebook.com/notes/troy-livingston/reactor-4-not-all-what-you-excepted/10151758695293097

                      I'm sorry I misspelled Troy's last name.


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                      Yes PJ, I dont think Troy hit the nail on the head. As I keep saying, the fuel couldnt melt that hole in the wall, and further the cause of the slump of the wall is wide speculation. Try to grasp that the panel is not next to the equipment pool, and that the 25 foot, 3 foot thick panel blew out at high speed. Thanks


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                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising Jesus

                      Code, have you read these articles by Dr. Goodheart?
                      The first one is mostly about Reactor #3.

                      Another Lie By TEPCO; Not 1 Hydrogen Explosion, But 2 …

                      http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2014/01/another-lie-by-tepco-not-1-hydrogen.html
                      F
                      Fukushiima Building #4 Equipment Pool Melted Out, Multiple SFP Fires, TEPCO Lies Exposed

                      http://nuclearisadeadend.blogspot.com/2013/12/fukushima-building-4-equipment-pool.html


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                      Code, did you read the two aticles by stock that I posted above?

                      Photos
                      http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2013_12_01_archive.html

                      Fukushima Reactor#4- Whats is the Truth?? By Troy Livinston on Facebook!!

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnylzSgSwKQ


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                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising Jesus

                      Code, did you look at all the thermal images I posted?

                      So far, I agree with Troy Livinston's analysis.


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      PJ, yes, I looked at Dr Goodhearts article and Stocks page and photos. I listened to Troys video. I fail to see how they all make the same conclusion! But Im starting to develop a hypothesis that fits their conclusion to the photo evidence;

                      First, the water boils down in the equipment pool. The steaming noise scares a stray cat who runs over a stray wrench, causing a metal bucket to fall in the pool which captures a large bubble of hydrogen. As the pool turns into a steaming caldron, hydrostatic pressure no longer keeps the bucket afloat, and it sinks to the bottom where a bic lighter sits, carelessly dropped by a worker the week before. The intense heat causes the hydrogen bucket to explode, but not before some corium has melted into a glob on the bucket. The pressure wave reflects off the pool walls forming a focused pressure epicenter at the corium which then undergoes a low efficiency thermonuclear explosion. cont….


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                      The pool walls are still intact and so the pressure vector propels the corium upward where it hits a steel roof girder. The corium is in an energetic plastic state which gives it sufficient modulous of elasticity to ricochet off the beam and onto a hand dolly which had been used to carry safety regulation books to be incinerated in the reactor during refueling operations. The momentum so imparted drives the corium laden dolly a full FIFTY FEET horizontally across the floor where it bumps into a jacuzzi which had been retrofitted to hold mox fuel. The corium falls in, the water splashes out and the mox begins a rapid runaway reaction. The bremsstrahlung is emitted preferentially through one of the jacuzzi ducts which happens to be aimed at the steam condenser unit, creating a weak spot, just as the condenser is reaching extreme overpressure. The thing blows its tubular innards into the mox jacuzzi with enough force to cause a secondary nuclear reaction of sufficient explosive force to blow out the adjacent 25 foot panel nearly horizontally where it impacts a building some 50 feet away nearly demolishing it…


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                      the elastic rebound of the broken rebar imparts a high audio frequency pulse into the concrete structure above with such force that the inter-granular concrete bonds are weakened creating a condition akin to soil liquefaction during an earthquake. This allows the upper wall to slump inward due to a slight Bernoulli pressure reduction on the inside wall from thermal air currents. These same air currents also lift the hairs on the workers nearby causing a feeling of panic…

                      Well I could go on, but its a thesis in progress to accommodate the fact that the HOLE IN THE NORTH WALL IS NOT NEXT TO OR UNDER THE EQUIPMENT POOL….


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                    • from a distance from a distance

                      Unit 4

                      Don't know if this will help or not, but here's what was said about Unit 4 from FOIA docs and conversations (see how confused they were about Unit 4) –>

                      >> 3/14/11 “Unit 4 fuel on fire. Requesting boron.”
                      >> 3/14/11 “#4 reactor is seeing a fire…Rods were heated and hydrogen generated. Hydrogen explosion has occurred on #4 reactor. Currently burning. U02 also being released…100 mSv at #4. So these are levels that can impact human health.”
                      >> 3/14/11 “400 mSv around #4 reactor.”
                      >> 3/14/11 “Unit 4 zirc fire.”
                      >> 3/14/11 “10R/hr outside Unit 4”
                      >> 3/14/11 “Have fire in U4 SPF. Prime minister said fuel is not on fire. Trapp: They don’t have water level in SFP. Grobe: 10 R/hr at site boundary near U4. This is no longer INES Level 4.”
                      >> 3/14/11 “Unit 4: SFP dry and appears to be zirc fire in SPF Units 5 and 6.”
                      >> 3/15/11 “IAEA reported in press release that fire in spent fuel pool at Fukushima Daichi unit 4 extinguished at 2200 EDT March 14”
                      >> 3/15/11 “Unit 4: Fire in SFP but reported out. Staff believes might have been zirconium fire.”
                      >> 3/15/11 “Fire due to lube oil not zirconium. Hi dose rates measured between Units 3 and 4. Source is from the Unit 4 spent fuel pool.”
                      >> 3/15/11 “Confirmed that Unit 4 spend fuel pool definitely did not have a zirc fire.”
                      >> 3/15/11 “New fire at Unit 4”
                      >> 3/15/11 “fire has not yet been contained.”
                      >> 3/15/11 “State Dept. has confirmed fire Unit 4.”


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                      part 2 – continued Unit 4

                      >> 3/15/11 “TEPCO is saying they haven’t yet started fire extinguishing Unit 4 fire. Fuel rods have ben exposed and generating hydrogen in Unit 4. Some of roof is damaged..30R/hr in area”
                      >> 3/15/11 “Unit 4 experienced a lube oil fire yesterday. Reports of another fire. 30R/hr in building due to shine from fuel due to reduced shielding.”
                      3/15/11 “Conflicting reports: One story >> is that Fire in 4 was SFP area hydrogen fire. Separate story is that it was oil fire. Another thought is that reports of new fire at just restatement of old fire. But one other thought is that it is in fact a new fire.”
                      >> 3/15/11 “Fire about 5 hours ago in Unit 4, low reactor building.”
                      >> 3/15/11 “#4, entire secondary containment appears gone worse than #3. Active smoke coming out of 3, plus #4 issues.”
                      >> 3/15/11 “Grobe: We have some indication substantial damage to Unit 4 secondary containment. Trapp has also heard that. Rad levels are very high.”
                      >> 3/15/11 “We have no containment for unit 4”
                      >> 3/16/11 “SFP status: Unit 4 zirc water reaction. No SFP walls in Unit 4 so no ability retain water”
                      >> 3/16/11 “Do not think the walls of Unit 4 SFP have been blown out; because there would be streaming radiation if that were the case.”
                      >> 3/16/11 “20-30 millirem between Unit 3 and Unit 4. Flew over Unit 4 – 247 mSv”


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                      part 3 – continued Unit 4

                      >> 3/16/11 “3 and 4 fuel exposed”
                      >> 3/16/11 “Chairman: we believe pool #4 is dry, and another potentially structurally damaged? Chuck: yes and #4 pool walls have collapsed. Can’t maintain inventory at all.”
                      >> 3/16/11 “Japanese are challenging what the Chairman said”
                      >> 3/16/11 “Chairman: U4 SFP has no water and possible zirc fire? We feel no water and structural integrity in question. Do not know about zirc fire.”
                      >> 3/16/11 “Chuck clearly said #4 was dry…Said it is dry based on info from TEPCO.”
                      >> 3/16/11 “they are planning to show us video of U4 SFP…that it has water and has had water”
                      >> 3/16/11 “We viewed the video. It is not very clear…They claim reflection of water. Don’t know if steel or water. But we do know it is steaming.”
                      >> 3/16/11 “just heard from Casto that he is very convinced there is no water in #4”
                      >> 3/17/11 “TEPCO believes water in Unit 4 SFP. NRC team best estimate is that there is no Unit 4SFP based on images. Unit 4 SFP stopped steaming so might be dry.”
                      >> 3/17/11 ”TEPCO continues to believe water in Unit 4 SFP. NRC team not sure about water in SFP.”
                      >> 3/17/11 “U4, all fuel in SFP, substantial damage to rx bldg., and damage to rods”


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                      part 4 – continued Unit 4

                      >> 3/17/11 “Clear evidence on U4 of very significant hydrogen explosion, so much have been very high temp zirc reacting with water. areas of debris around U4, which are contributing to very significant dose rates…were bulldozed under soil and dose rates went down substantially … must have been fuel”
                      >> 3/17/11 “have to shield fuel in Unit 4 so we can get to 1-3 … don’t even know if Unit 4 will hold water”
                      >> 3/18/11 “Think there is at least a leak or rupture on Uni4 SFP.”
                      >> 3/20/11 “RST: Spent fuel pool 4 gone, completely destroyed”
                      >> 3/20/11 “we agree that U4 is definitely priority”
                      >> 3/20/11 “In U4, don’t see steam. Would imply pool is dry”

                      http://www.scribd.com/doc/93660119/Fukushima-Disaster-March-11th-March-21st-NRC-ET-Chronology-Descending-Pages-From-C142487-03X


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                  Fukushima Building #4 Equipment Pool Melted Out, Multiple SFP Fires, TEPCO Lies Exposed
                  http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/12/agreenroad-tepcofukushima-lies-exposed.html?_escaped_fragment_=#!


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                  Sickputer
                  December 10, 2014 at 11:40 pm • Reply
                  Hope happy is real and not a plant. Back in March 2012 he had this to say about the Unit 4 "explosion":
                  "<Translate>
                  Reactor 4 is the most mysterious case. There was no major blasting sound, but the walls of the reactor building were deformed like morphing of SFX in front of our eyes, the walls of lateral side went totally messed up after all.
                  <End>"
                  SP: Weird thing about this post is that it was on a Pripyat blog two weeks before the commonly cited post by Iori at FD:
                  http://forum.pripyat.com/showthread.php?t=5183&page=11
                  http://enenews.com/experts-100-death-rate-baby-whales-along-west-coast-alarm-bells-starting-ring-newborn-orcas-survived-last-3-years-absolutely-worst-possible-happened-pregnant-mother-dies-decomposing-stillborn-fu/comment-page-1#comment-613476


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                  omniversling
                  March 28, 2013 at 9:44 am • Reply
                  Excellent U4 archive by Nuclear News:
                  http://news.lucaswhitefieldhixson.com/2011/06/tepco-works-to-save-reactor-4-spent.html
                  Witness: #4 Building Morphed on 3/15/11
                  
http://www.fukushima311watchdogs.org/share.php?partager=1302
                  Book: Reactor No. 4 deformed in front of our eyes, says Fukushima worker — Walls morphed like special effects from movie — No large explosion, yet building destroyed

                  http://enenews.com/book-reactor-no-4-deformed-in-front-of-our-eyes-says-fukushima-worker-walls-morphed-like-special-effects-from-movie-no-large-explosion-yet-building-destroyed/comment-page-1




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                  Book: Reactor No. 4 deformed in front of our eyes, says Fukushima worker — Walls morphed like special effects from movie — No large explosion, yet building destroyed
                  http://enenews.com/book-reactor-no-4-deformed-in-front-of-our-eyes-says-fukushima-worker-walls-morphed-like-special-effects-from-movie-no-large-explosion-yet-building-destroyed


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                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising Jesus

                  Infrared Imagery Fukushima
                  http://www.mod.go.jp/j/approach/defense/saigai/tohokuoki/temp.html
                  I went through all 25 of these files:
                  You can see the heat signature of fuel in the core of reactor #4 at a red level on the thermal image for # 3, 4, 8, 11, 12, 13, 15, 16, 18, 19, 20, 22.
                  1. Apr. 26 4月26日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:342KB)
                  2. Apr. 24 4月24日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:371KB)
                  3. Apr. 20 4月20日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:428KB)
                  4. Apr. 18 4月18日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:344KB)
                  5. Apr. 16 4月16日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:386KB)
                  6. Apr. 14 4月14日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:353KB)
                  7. Apr. 12 4月12日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:357KB)
                  8., Apr. 10 4月10日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:381KB)
                  9. Apr. 8 4月8日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:383KB)
                  10 Apr. 6 4月6日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:398KB)
                  11. Apr. 4 4月5日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:389KB)
                  12. Apr. 4 4月4日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:371KB)
                  13. Apr. 3 4月3日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:392KB)
                  14. Apr. 2 4月2日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:391KB)
                  15. Apr. 1 4月1日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:406KB)
                  16. Mar. 31 3月31日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:228KB)
                  17. Mar. 30 3月30日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:375KB)
                  18 Mar. 29 . 3月29日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:412KB)
                  19. Mar. 28 3月28日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:364KB)
                  20. Mar. 27 3月27日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:362KB)
                  21. Mar. 26 3月26日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:298KB)
                  22. Mar. 25 3月25日 福島第1原子力発電所における温度測定結果について(PDF:361KB)
                  23…


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                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  PJ, what is your take on the fact that the hole in the north is not under the equipment pool, but beside it? Is the corium going sideways, not down, before BLASTING out that hole? People keep repeating this hypothesis…it doesnt match the photographic evidence.

                  Troy had a good try, but I feel his structural and flow analysis is incorrect…


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                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising Jesus

                    Didn't the explosions of units #1, #3, and #4 go out the sides and top of the buildings? Why would the nuclear explosion in the equipment pool of #4 be any different?


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                      PJ…grasp this; the hole in the north wall is not under or at the location of the equipment pool. Do you agree with this or do you disagree? Well, its not…its some fifty feet over to the side, (I am eyeball estimating the distance, so not exactly fifty feet) Put it into the brain for thought experiments; how did a nuclear explosion go fifty feet over then make a 90 deg turn and blast out the panel? Think first, then reply…thanks


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                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising Jesus

                  Fukushima reactor designer turned whistleblower says he knew reactor No 4 has been unsound for 40 years
                  “A former Fukushima Daiichi reactor designer turned whistle blower today said the crippled plant’s reactor No 4 had been relying on flawed steel to hold radiation in its core, and that he himself helped hide the defect when the reactor – which he called a "time bomb” – was built four decades ago….
                  “Tanaka’s condemnation reaches further than No 4
                  “Earlier this week, Tanaka told the media more generally that all of the reactors at Fukushima Daiichi were outmoded and that specifically, reactor No 1 – which has suffered overheating difficulties, a partial meltdown and a hydrogen explosion – should have been shut down or replaced….
                  “Tanaka says the reactor pressure vessel inside the No. 4 reactor was damaged at a Babcock-Hitachi foundry in Kure, Hiroshima Prefecture, during the last step of a manufacturing process that took two and a half years and cost millions of dollars, Japan Today reported. If the mistake had been discovered, the company might have been bankrupted, Tananka said.
                  “The origin of the flaw
                  “Inside a blast furnace the size of a small airplane hanger, the reactor pressure vessel was being treated one last time to remove welding stress, according to Tanaka’s recounting. The cylinder, 20 meters tall and 5.8 meters in diameter, was heated to more than 600 degrees, a temperature that softens metal.

                  “Braces that were to have been placed inside during the…


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                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising Jesus

                  Official Coverup Obscures
                  The Collapse Of Reactor 4
                  See The Video Of What Is Being Demolished
                  At Fuksuhima Daiichi Here
                  By Yoichi Shimatsu
                  Exclusive To Rense.com
                  6-30-12
                  “…My logical deduction back then – and since confirmed by leaks and official disclosures – was that Reactor 4 had been recently loaded with fresh fuel rods in preparation for start-up on March 12. Its planned operation was kept secret and unscheduled, and therefore had to be linked to illegal enrichment of weapons-grade uranium for the purpose of making nuclear warheads.
                  “In contrast to the official story about hydrogen, the timeline of those initial days indicates a reverse chain of cause and effect: A nuclear blast inside Reactor 4 created enough heat to set its spent-fuel pool on fire, and also intensified the neutron bombardment against a degraded Reactor 3, which exploded in a mushroom cloud on the next day, March 15. That huge explosion, in turn, re-ignited the Reactor 4 spent-fuel fire. These synergistic high-energy nuclear events did not constitute a classical chain reaction, for if complete fission had occurred an area many times larger than Nagasaki would have been leveled. Instead of a single nuclear explosion, the Fukushima crisis is a protracted series of nuclear events, unleashing a Pandora's Box of troubles onto the world.

                  “My appraisal during last year's meltdowns led to the conclusion that melt-downs of fuel rods would quickly burn through core-reactor shrouds, the steel…


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                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising Jesus

                    cont.
                    containment chambers beneath, and then the concrete-block footing. The consequences were obvious then, though not to the corps of nuclear engineers: That the corium would tunnel into the landfill of rock and sand, and on contact with water release enough high-pressure steam to create a sinkhole under each reactor. Huge vents of steam, as reported by nuclear workers, have since blown out through the ground surface.

                    “The unstable landfill would eventually become too weak to support the combined weight of the reactors, spent-fuel pools, ferroconcrete structures and all the water being pumped inside The inevitable result is a collapse into a sinkhole, after which recovery of intact fuel rods would be impossible. ….”
                    http://www.rense.com/general95/offic.html


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      amazing the similarity of Yochi's reverse chain of cause and effect theory to mine above…only it doesnt address how the corium could move horizontally for 50 feet before melting a 25 ft 3x ft thick hole at right angles to its trajectory.

                      By invoking the laws of observation and reciprocity, one can deduce that not only is the hole in the wall 50 feet horizontally from the equipment pool, but the pool is in turn FIFTY FEET from the hole, and at the same level. Or to clarify the observation, fifty ft X two divided by the square root of 4 with no difference in elevation.

                      What is the implication of this observation? While its likely the fuel melted to corium and down through the floors under force of gravity, its not likely that it migrated 50 feet under no incline before making a 90 degree exit stage right, blasting a 200,000 lb reinforced concrete slab at 50 mph out of its way


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                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising Jesus

                      I think the fuel rods in the equipment pool blasted the hole in the equipment pool and the hole in the outer wall of unit #4.


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      OK PJ….a glancing blow then. The debris field however goes the other way, or 90 deg and more acute to your proposed blast trajectory. This is perplexing, is it not?

                      That is, if one stops to think about it?


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                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising Jesus

                      There were supposed to be 3 explosions at Unit #4. But Troy said that the equipment pool had a fire due to a meltdown and that made the hole in the wall.

                      How do you know that the equipment pool was 50 feet from the wall?


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Hi PJ, I used an estimation method called dead reckoning. After all my blathering, Im not proud to say I might have over estimated the distance. It depends of course on which reference points are used. Other photos show the blast pattern which does not suggest a vector from the equipment pool.

                      One can see the hole is at the same elevation. For reference, the building is about 100 feet wide and the panels about 25×25 ft. I actually dont have the exact dimensions…not readily encountered.

                      In this photo one can see the blue covered holes next to the SFP; the removed melt and what looks like a concrete like slurry inside; quite a lot of damage to the floor above the hole.

                      http://cryptome.org/2012-info/daiichi-12-07/pict106.jpg


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      In this high rez photo one sees the blast. Two panels have impacted the nearby buildings which are about 50 feet away. A trail of gold stuff, presumably the same melt (although the slump has already turned black), and the panel location would seem to point toward the center of force. The panels are huge and heavy and you can see the impact

                      http://cryptome.org/eyeball/daiichi-npp/pict10.jpg


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      http://cryptome.org/eyeball/daiichi-npp/pict12.jpg

                      OK, a perfect photo for estimating distance. The black melt is seen, the panel impacted on nearby building, and the pool center line would be about 1/3 the way up from the east wall. By this photo it looks like some 50 feet of distance between pool center and black melt.
                      http://cryptome.org/eyeball/daiichi-npp/pict6.jpg


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      and the best so far. Here the distance is seen to not be 50 feet. The so called equipment pool is seen in its glory.
                      Distance from pool center line to where the black stuff was falling on duct is about 30 ft.

                      Note the pools are on the same elevation as the hole.

                      The blue tarp covered mystery holes are seen. They would be in line with the blast trajectory. Several barriers have been erected. The area below the melt is itself a roof but has been covered first with what appears a huge metal plate, then with concrete which has debris on it. Such measures support the theory that the area was highly radioactive.
                      Both reactor top and equipment pool appear filled with water, whereas we get no view into the spent fuel pool
                      http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pAz8fMFT6g8/Uq5bH_Aj7hI/AAAAAAABGgQ/vNlA1f_Tgeg/s1600/1474479_244111332421875_1917590288_n.jpg


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      This photo is interesting because another patch of what well could be the same gold colored material is seen in the foreground. It is at least 50 feet from the bold and white slumping over the edge. When the photo is sharpened, the white could well be tubular pieces with curved shapes which to me suggested the condenser may have been involved. Nobody knows for sure if the gold portion is corium

                      http://cryptome.org/2013-info/04/daiichi-11-03-04/pict55.jpg


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                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      Ok my doodle art I promised. Code, your the 3rd pic is a beaut, what made the huge hole? That is a huge hole. Big! Condenser??
                      The buildings are approx. 120-150×200'

                      I feel like fred flintstone:
                      http://postimg.org/image/ap61r755f/

                      This is google earth #3 reactor

                      Flamesuit on. :)


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                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising Jesus

                      The equipment pool from TEPCOs diagrams with measurements is more like 5 or 10 feet from the north wall.

                      Here is a diagram of Unit #4 furnished by TEPCO. It doesn’t look like it is 50 feet to the side of the building from the equipment pool on the left side.
                      5 meters is only 16.4 feet.
                      1500 degrees Celsius is 2732 degrees Fahrenheit.

                      The melting fuel rods during the fire could have leaked out the bottom of the eqiuipment pool nearest the north wall, the north the north east corner if that was the hottest place and the weakest. After all, the equipment pool was old and the reactor should not have been still in use.
                      Schematic of 5th floor #4..
                      http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_111110_01-e.pdf

                      p.11 of 20
                      http://www.meti.go.jp/english/earthquake/nuclear/decommissioning/pdf/20120605_01b.pdf

                      “…A frequently-voiced concern during the first week of the accident was regarding fuel meltdown. This starts to occur if the fuel itself reached 2500°C (or more, up to 2800°C, depending on make-up). At this point, the fuel rods slump within the assemblies. Conceivably, the “corium” (a mixture of molten cladding, fuel, and structural steel) drops to the bottom of the reactor vessel. If the hot fuel or cladding is exposed to cooling water en route, it may solidify and fracture, falling to the bottom of the reactor vessel. Given that the melting point of the steel reactor vessel is about 1500°C, there is an obvious possibility on the corium penetrating…


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                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising Jesus

                      cont.
                      penetrating the steel if it remains hot enough.* In any case the BWR pressure vessels have numerous penetrations at the bottom for control rods and instrumentation, so any corium, to the extent it remained molten, would possibly shower into the bottom of the drywell containment. The whole fuel melt scenario is much more probable with a sudden major loss of coolant when the reactor is at full power than in the Fukushima situation, at least beyond the first few days. Before fuel melting, cladding cracks at about 1200°C, its oxidation begins at about 1300°C (releasing hydrogen from steam) and the zirconium cladding melts at about 1850°C and reacts with uranium oxide to form a molten eutectic, which would release volatile fission products such as caesium. These temperatures are quite possible days after shutdown in the absence of cooling….”
                      http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Safety-and-Security/Safety-of-Plants/Appendices/Fukushima–Reactor-Background/


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                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising Jesus

                      “Back of unit 4, cropped and enhanced. The buckling of the upper side walls can be seen in this back few from the seaside area of the plant. Image has been enhanced and cropped, please keep watermark in place if used elsewhere”

                      http://www.cas.go.jp/jp/seisaku/icanps/eng/120224Siryo02-1Eng.pdf
                      photo of spent fuel pool at North East corner of cuilding.
                      http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=4554


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      That diagram from TEPCO is good info JP. Now can you get a dimension…then I can tell you EXACTLY how far the melt out is from the pool. There seems to be a misunderstanding though. I didnt say the pool was far from the wall…Im saying the melt out is HORIZONTALLY OFFSET. It is easy to see in the photos. If the fuel melted through the wall of the pool it would still probably drop a level before it made it out the wall, and then of course the hole would be where the pool is, not toward the west side….right or wrong?


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Thanks for the sketch AirSep.

                      There seems to be some ambiguity. Why not weigh in with your estimate; How far is the melt out to the west of the location of the equipment pool? I say 25 to 50 feet depending on which reference points are of interest.


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                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising Jesus

                      I think it melted out at a corner of the bottom of the pool which is above the 3rd floor. If you look at a diagram of the 3rd floor of unit 4, it includes the spent fuel pool, but not the equipment pool.


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                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      Here is the skinny on the 'ally way'. Thanks a million to Anne on those plant drawings, sent me on a search, maybe this is the melt—-copper.

                      Primary Loop Recirculation System Motor Generator-the article is about R3, but R4 is the same

                      https://dunrenard.wordpress.com/tag/reactor-3/

                      See what you think.


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                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      Yes code, the distance is tough, 20-40', the damn pool is near 40-50' long. So where was the fuel, close to the reactor or the outside wall? it would almost double the distance. hellifiknow :(

                      Hard to say, did the 'stuff' all melt/flow into a big pile and 'blowout' with some H2 assist, or H2 popped the whole place a time or two, and/or then some nuke action, then some fire,?? need a time lapse vid of the mystery/sequence.

                      If someone would acknowledge fuel in the EQ pool, how much, etc. The quick look I took didn't give dimensions or anything as compared to the SFP, I will go back over it.

                      If it melted out, I think I'm with anne, flowed out to the floor below, took a right turn I don't know how maybe some obstruction on the floor/floordrain IDK.
                      Guess/guess/guess??

                      I've got a little more from this than I had before, its all good. TY to u & PJ. :)


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                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      And sorry, the sketch(condensers) is WRONG
                      No condensers on #2,3,4 like #1.


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Thanks JP and AirSep. I was in haste multitasking so havent parsed the info yet. Ill say this though, drinking beer while simultaneously thinking is a lot more difficult than one might think. Not like the old days when I could visualize 4 dimensions replete with involuting Aztec symbology whilst contemplating its spiritual significance on LSD. Hahaha, JUST KIDDING! -I dont drink

                      Yes, the floor of the equipment pool appears to be higher than the bottom level of the blown out panel, assuming it extends down to the sub floor. The Top is at the same elevation though, so first pass assessment was good. And I would still say the melt is significantly more offset horizontally than vertically. If corium could melt through the pool I dont know why it would stop at the sub floor then go sideways such a distance without a motive force. Seems unlikely by basic laws of physics. But then we have the involuted forth dimension. Perhaps its time to break out a moody blues album and grok on the implausible like yesteryear… pfft! who am I kidding…with THIS blain damij?

                      I will return to this subject with accurate distances and consideration of ye old Primary Loop Recirculation System Motor Generator. Sure worked a number on unit 3


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                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      Well this has nada to do with this discussion exactly, other than the ye old PLR-MG unit.

                      The interesting thing is the inset pic of the control screen, a computer screen.

                      We had a big tadoo over control systems, that primary process was not computerized. But Daini is, or it looks that way to me.

                      This was all about SXnet virus. Damn what you can find on the net. Have a look.

                      http://www.hitachi.com/ICSFiles/afieldfile/2004/06/03/r2003_technology_ps.pdf


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                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising Jesus

                      The building is tilted from the 9.0 earthquake. And the north wall is the where the equipment pool is close to the outer wall of the building, and the bottom of the equipment pool is higher than the third floor. Wherever the fuel started melting down it will flow to the lowest corner of the equipment pool and melt the weakest point of the equipment pool lining. Troy also has a photo in his video showing the black smoke from the fire in the equipment pool and it rises right close to the building wall and is going to the north beyond the building wall.


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      PJ, the theory that the equipment pool melted to corium, melted through the pool to the floor below (14 ft), then flowed a maximum of 53 feet horizontally (thanks to you we have exact distances now) without any motive force, then melted a 20×20 ft concrete panel (at 90 deg to corium movement) which then blasted out at high speed leaving a blast trail of corium 50 plus feet (again at right angles to its initial vector), and then the equipment pool was fixed to hold water is simply too implausible to believe.

                      The building was not very slanted as can be seen and if one believes their measurements, so gravity force by incline can be ruled out.

                      At this point, the most fruitful theory seems to be that the reactor had fuel, melted down creating corium and hydrogen by zirc fires. Super heated steam under high pressure escaped into and from ye old PLR-MG which weakened the concrete structures in its path. Probably there was a steam explosion along with the hydrogen explosion which demolished the PLR-MG or cooling loop system and sent it blasting out the north and south walls. The rather convincing pics of water in the SFP and eqp pool are surprising. It doesnt seem likely they could fix corium melted holes in those pools and fill them with water. Its likely that the unloaded condition was a lie, and that the unit four reactor had a meltdown like all the others. This leaves a mystery how they could fill the reactor well with water though.


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      and thanks go to AirSepTech for uncovering the PLR-MG. Damage to concrete in the vicinity of this unit is similar in Units 3 and 4. Severe concrete erosion apparently not caused by hydrogen or nuclear explosions. The question remains, what the failure mode was. Super heated steam and steam explosion, sending a heat exchanger with copper nickel alloy tubes through two feet of concrete seems plausible. Take away is that the north and south wall holes are unique and that the yellow and white stuff assumed to be corium is more likely a copper alloy with stainless U tubes.

                      Thanks to JP for finding dimensions which showed the yellow melt is as much as 50 feet HORIZONTALLY from the center line of the equipment pool (and 14 feet below the pool bottom)…all but ruling out the theory that corium melted through that pool and blasted out the north panel

                      apologies to readers for the inundation of so many posts, my attempt at humor etc. Hope it was worth it


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                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    sorry, that should be Yoichi.

                    When the nuke plant operator was heard to exclaim Fuckyoudieitchy! His partner confirmed thusly; Yo…itchi (dots courtesy HotR)

                    Meanwhile, down the street one lonely bar which escaped the tsunami remained open. A horse wandered in and ordered a drink. The bartender poured a tall one saying "OK, whats with the long face?" BudUMP-bump


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                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising Jesus

                  Fukushima Building #4 Timeline Of Events; Equipment Pool Melted Out, Multiple SFP Fires, Multiple Explosions, TEPCO Lies Exposed
                  http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/12/agreenroad-tepcofukushima-lies-exposed.html


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                • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                  That is some good footage. #1
                  So the floor above the condensers is the operating floor? I say that because there is DaYlight up there ..tehehe.
                  A bit confusing when they say a floor has collapsed onto another.
                  I will do some msPaint doodle art later to get an idea going. I'll use that google pic of #3 to get some perspective.

                  Are there any side elevation bprints that show the floors/certain equip on the floors?

                  I got about 10 questions for every answer, I start hating on myself under that condition.

                  There is an answer, but there seems to be at least 1 conflict, no matter which way you go.

                  Find the lie, like where's Waldo. ;)


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                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    AirSep. Dont confuse the photos of unit one with four because I think they are a slightly different design.

                    There is a photo of unit 4…an aerial photo taken at the point where they have cleared away everything down to the floor where the SFP, reactor top and equipment pool is. The superstructure will go over this floor. A swimming pool size couple of panels are missing in this floor over the location of the condensers which are in unit one. Grasp it? They have it covered over with blue tarps…perhaps to keep workers falling in, or to obscure the view? On the north and south walls there are the famous holes, which are clearly on the same elevation as the equipment pool and whatever might have been underneath these mentioned blown out or removed sections of the floor. Sorry, a pic is worth a thousand words, but I dont have the link just now…


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                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      Yep I can see that, and they are diff design, layout should be close?

                      Those condensers are a good size, the second or 'east' one would get pretty close to the panel blowout(s) axis. If they are close to #1 design.

                      I just read PJ's new add in(ty pj) and along with TroyL it does get close to my thoughts, not that it matters, I'm no nuke expert. But I have seen a lot wrecked junk, big stuff, mega energy.

                      This one takes the cake, one building, more than one event, and somehow they are linked. The hypothesis it was mox, less stable, core loaded, they will never admit that. They can not go there. And yet a heat sig in a cold, empty?, steaming?, months shutdown reactor. I do have a hard time with that.

                      Somebody/somewhere must be shitting a brick for 4 years. They need to eat it.


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      AirSep, I was busy adding more photo links of interest. Please see above if you still like the conjecture…thx


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  • We Not They Finally

    We use to live in Albuquerque…Then the storage facility in southern NM collapsed.We wre inundated with deadly radiation.My serotonim suddenly ceased to act as the hormone it once was…it is very serious to lose peristolsis.I wouldnt wish this on my worst enemies..


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    • DebbyS-AbqNM DebbyS-AbqNM

      I'm glad you moved away to Boston and hope the commercial nuclear plants near you are completely safe and sound (and making money but not doing it by gouging rate payers)! Me, I see that Carlsbad is downwind of me several hundred miles and at least two mountain ranges away. It doesn't worry me. Hey, the Trinity Site is closer… I do worry about any of our spring/summer birds that might fly over the Carlsbad area, but I also worry for those birds that fly over the Gulf of Mexico or Three Mile Island or Hanford or a lot of other places humans have made lethal.


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  • Chronic1 Chronic1

    Keyboard activists. I agree, too much suffering for all beings on this planet from nuclearism. But 90 percent of all species that have ever lived are extinct ! In the words of Alan Watts…and I paraphrase " How do I know that nuclear weapons aren't the universisal way of creating stars " Lol.

    Cheer up folks, you have no one to blame but yourselves for the world you find yourself living in !!!


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  • Chronic1 Chronic1

    Pack your sh#@t folks, we are going away. This beautiful planet will recover and shake us off like a evolutionary cul de sac. Maybe the Earth just wanted Plutonium. Lol.


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  • rogerthat

    http://fukushimalessons.jp/en.html

    Fukushima's Message
    to the World

    The Fukushima nuclear disaster has many lessons to teach us, and it is our aim to convey this message to an international audience.

    A group of civil society groups have cooperated to create the '10 Lessons from Fukushima' booklet which will be launched in March 2015 to coincide with the 3rd UN World Conference on Disaster Risk Reduction in Sendai – a forum attended by a range of specialists in disaster risk reduction.

    This project has the support of the Japan CSO Coalition for 2015 WCDRR (JCC2015).

    Booklet

    We have created a booklet entitled “10 Lessons from Fukushima: Reducing risk and protecting communities from disasters”.

    This booklet, which is based upon the experiences and testimony of local people, will be translated into around 15 languages, spreading the lessons of Fukushima around the world. ⇒ More

    Global Conference

    The Global Citizens' Conference on Fukushima will be held over three days beginning on March 11th, which marks the 4th anniversary of the Fukushima nuclear accident.

    A local study tour will be held for our domestic and international guests on March 12th. The Global Citizens's Conference itself will be held on March 13 to link Fukushima to the world. ⇒ More
    - Entry Here -
    Please get involved in this project!!

    Volunteers

    We are recruiting volunteers. The 'Fukushima Booklet Publishing Committee' aims to convey Fukushima's message to the…


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    • rogerthat

      world by translating the booklet into several languages.

      We plan to continue these efforts through the following activities.

      We are looking for volunteers and supporters to assist these efforts.

      ● Translators (we need translators in many languages)
      ● Designers, typesetters
      ● Illustrators and cartoonists
      ● Editors
      ● Photographers, and people who can submit photos…and much more!!
      ⇒ Interested in joining us?

      Request for donations

      Donations
      We are distributing copies of this booklet in various languages at no cost. However, donations to cover costs are warmly welcomed. Please contact us for further details.
      ⇒ Contact us

      We are the 'Fukushima Booklet Publishing Committee' which grew out of the Japan CSO Coalition for 2015 WCDRR (JCC2015) – an organization that conducts various activities in preparation for the UN World Conference on Disaster Risk Reduction to be held in Sendai in March 2015. We have produced a booklet outlining the Fukushima's Message to the World, in order to protect people from nuclear disasters.


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      • rogerthat

        This is what the earnestly pro-nuke ww.hiroshimasyndrome.com/fukushima-accident-updates.html has to say about this:

        (Comment – An international group of activists will publish an unfortunate booklet on Fukushima.

        The Global Citizen’s Conference on Fukushima was held this week in Fukushima City and has drafted the booklet called “10 Lessons from Fukushima – Reducing risks and protecting communities from nuclear disasters.”

        In it, many pure speculations and fabrications are presented as factual, including the false claims that many secret incinerators are being built by Tokyo to burn radioactive waste and thyroid cancer rates in Fukushima’s children are increasing.

        It adds that Tokyo has been reluctant to tell the truth about Fukushima because of the UN disaster conference.

        It seems the booklet will be published by Church World Service. http://www.cwsglobal.org/blog/the-situation-is-not-under-control.htmlhttp://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2015/03/341609.html)

        - quite encouraging stuff in this brave new world where black is white and where no-one dies of radiation, apart from the three billion who do, ha ha


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  • rogerthat

    http://fukushima-diary.com/2015/03/photo-fukushima-citizen-fukushima-offshore-looked-like-a-mixed-ink-of-green-yellow-and-reddish-brown-this-311/

    [Photo] Fukushima citizen “Fukushima offshore looked like a mixed ink of green, yellow and reddish brown”

    On 3/11/2015 of 5th 311, a Fukushima citizen posted on Twitter that the sea looked like a mixed ink.

    The location is Kitaizumi, Minamisoma city.

    3/11/2015 7:34am

    “This is the 5th photo of Minamisoma city today. The coastal area of Kitaizumi. Maybe it’s because the sea is raging or because of the light, the sea looks like mixed ink of green, yellow and reddish brown offshore. It looked as if it was suggesting a relationship with 311. The coastal area was very windy and cold.”


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  • rogerthat

    here is something new:

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/03/13/national/final-resting-place-of-radioactive-soil-still-up-in-the-air/#.VQh0skJB-S0

    Final resting place of radioactive soil still up in the air
    JIJI
    MAR 13, 2015

    Japan has yet to devise a final disposal plan for radioactive soil that will be stored at an interim facility in Fukushima Prefecture on the understanding that the soil will be moved elsewhere within 30 years.

    … Planning to establish final disposal sites in five prefectures outside Fukushima, the ministry picked candidate sites but has faced strong opposition from residents at those locations.

    To make final disposal sites acceptable for locals, the ministry is considering reducing the volume of contaminated soil to be dumped there.

    Specifically, it plans to dispose only of highly contaminated soil at the sites and use less contaminated soil in public works projects.

    “If the disposal volume is cut markedly, there may be municipalities that will accept (hosting disposal) sites,” said a senior member of the ruling Liberal Democratic Party’s task force to promote post-disaster reconstruction.

    In fiscal 2015, the ministry will launch full-fledged work to develop low-cost technologies to separate soil in accordance with radioactivity levels. It will also run tests on which less-tainted soil will be mixed with other materials and used for roadbeds under asphalt.

    Once these measures are in place, …


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    • rogerthat

      the ministry plans to select final disposal sites.

      A ministry official said there is little time to develop such technologies, considering the 30-year deadline. “We hope to speed up the work as much as possible,” the official added.

      But it is not certain the public will accept the reuse of contaminated soil.

      “Opposition to reusing such soil may emerge,” the ministry official acknowledged, adding it is “a challenge for us to achieve not only safe soil but also the (sense) of safety.”


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  • rogerthat

    So let's see. There is 25 million tonnes of contaminated soil and stuff that has been collected and put into plastic bags which are currently stored at 65,000 different sites across the region.

    This is going to be moved to a new site where it will be stored for 30 years.

    Then it will be separated into contaminated and highly contaminated piles.

    The contaminated stuff will be used for public works, and the highly contaminated stuff will be foisted on five lucky towns that will be the new permanent repositories for high level nuclear waste.

    Sounds like they have a handle on this.


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  • Nick

    "Tepco(n) to miss May deadline to treat 20,000 tons of Fukushima radioactive water"

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/03/17/national/tepco-to-miss-may-deadline-to-treat-20000-tons-of-fukushima-radioactive-water/#.VQh6go6jOm4

    As if it is only the water they have to deal with?

    Obfuscate the severity of The Fukushima Fiasco at all costs!


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  • Sol Man

    For years we have been searching for signs of another planet with life abundant like our shared earth.

    The searchers have found not one.

    Some people messed up beyond words!


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    • DebbyS-AbqNM DebbyS-AbqNM

      Hot water found on icy Saturn moon, suggests life

      New evidence suggests that one of Saturn's icy moons, Enceladus, is capable of sustaining life thanks to a little hot water.

      voxxi.com/2015/03/13/hot-water-saturn-moon-life/

      Any life forms enjoying their leisure life and hot tubs on Enceladus better hope big corporations don't decide to install new governments there to ease shipping that hot water here to Earth…


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  • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

    not necessarily true.. http://www.space.com/20722-two-alien-oceanic-earth-like-planets-found-video.html

    I would say humans already killed mars…by nukes… rendering that planet incapable of sustaining life, so… perhaps the martians came here to Earth… and have now killed it too.

    Clearly it seems it is all over except the dying and crying which could go on for the next generation, possibly even two… but not much longer.

    http://meetings.aps.org/Meeting/PSF14/Session/G1.3

    Hopefully Noah has a spaceship this time with a DNA bank of everything but the humans. Not sure humans should survive this, they have been miserable and selfish custodians of this planet, and don't really deserve another chance.

    Sad that we can not separate humans into two categories.. one selfish and self serving, the other giving and caring. Then we should exterminate the selfish and self serving… or leave them here on Earth.

    Sadly, those that could afford to leave Earth are the same 1/4 of 1% that have destroyed our beautiful planet.


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    • Chronic1 Chronic1

      Humans can't destroy this planet…..they can make it temporarily unable to support a diverse biosphere.

      Earth will cleanse itself and thrive again, just like it always has.


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    • General User General User

      @cat
      I agree with your pixels above, except for the human selfishness. Just like other mammals we grow up as taught. Example; Pit bull dogs, raised in loving family environment are mans best friend.
      Example; First Nation peoples love earth, and are the ultimate example of living in harmony with the Earth.
      Don't expect to find any CEO/CFO living in a teepee when it all crashes.

      Peace All


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      • Chronic1 Chronic1

        I've lived in the Four Corners region of the United States for years before coming back to Denver. I have much respect for the Dine' (Navajo) peoples and the other native cultures that inhabit the United States, but I can tell you straight up,after living amongst them for years that they suffer from severe poverty, persecution, alcoholism and general malaise due to their land being stolen and thier way of life Westernised.

        Europeans….in general…don't let native cultures live in harmony with the Earth. They brutally opress them. Please do your research before you write such pie in the sky ….ridiculous white propaganda.


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      • DebbyS-AbqNM DebbyS-AbqNM

        "First Nation peoples love earth, and are the ultimate example of living in harmony with the Earth" I recall yeas ago reading the book "Sun of Morning Star", about Custer and the Native Americans who wiped him out, that the NAs would be traveling along, come across a walnut tree, and… cut it down just to gather the nuts. It was easier than climbing the tree. Like other humans, they'd also drive herd animals (like bison) over cliffs and harvest the remains and eat well for months. The difference between then and now is our current civilization (world wide) controls and destroys things on a world-wide scale. First Nations and similar people weren't perfect but "we", now, make things go extinct… and most hardly notice.


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  • GOM GOM

    Brian Camden, an owner of Hardened Strutures, Virginia Beach, Va., a US Govt owned construction firm. HS is the leading builder of survival shelters for the rich and famous. Other owners are 2 Navy Seals, including the son of Gorden Liddy. The US govt is the leading builder of survival shelters in the world. They have been binge buiding for the last 15 years. FEMA is buying up all the dehydrated food. They are gearing up. But that's not the reason for writing this. I have a question.

    WHY HAS THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT CONTACTED BRIAN CAMDEN?
    http://www.editinternational.com/read.php?id..


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  • GOM GOM

    The Rich Are Rushing To Build End Of World Bunkers..
    If above link failsor can't find it, punch this in.
    Abe & Co needs to be hanged..


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  • tinfoilhatbrian tinfoilhatbrian

    A little off-topic but an interesting observation can be made right now with the temperature and wind favorable to show how much heat is being generated at FDNPP. I have been checking out this site since 2011.http://agora.ex.nii.ac.jp/earthquake/201103-eastjapan/weather/gpv/wind/index.html.en


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