Report: Fukushima Reactors No. 5, 6 now in crisis — Cesium outside release points up 1,000% in recent days — Local says Hitachi engineers coming to help (VIDEO)

Published: October 24th, 2011 at 11:40 pm ET
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Oct. 24 — “Though everyone pays attention to reactor 1 to 4, actually reactor 5 and 6 are in crisis. Engineers from Hitachi are coming to the area to get it settled down but it’s concealed. It’s likely that they are going critical so Iodine 131 are measured in Tokyo or Iwate,” said a Fukushima local who has a friend working inside the reactors, according to a summary of his Oct. 21 interview with journalist Iwakami Yasumi in Fukushima Diary. (see video below)

Just a few days after the interview, TEPCO released new data about Reactors No. 5 and 6.

Based on that information, Mochizuki is reporting that “Reactor 5 and 6 are in crisis too”.

The Oct. 23 document shows a comparison of how much cesium was measured at the water release point of the reactors over the past 25 days.

Over the past few days, cesium levels have increased 10 times.

In the graph below, the top horizontal line (1.0E +02) is equal to 100 Bq/liter and the line below that (1.0E +01) is equal to 10 Bq/liter. The bottom line is one.

For example, Cesium-134 levels on Oct. 20 were slightly less than 10 Bq/liter, while Oct. 23 showed Cs-134 slightly less than 100 Bq/liter.

SOURCE: TEPCO

Precise measurements for the morning of Oct. 23 are below.

Cs-134 @ 78Bq/liter + Cs-137 @ 110Bq/liter = 188 Bq/liter of total radioactive cesium

SOURCE: TEPCO

 

 

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137 comments to Report: Fukushima Reactors No. 5, 6 now in crisis — Cesium outside release points up 1,000% in recent days — Local says Hitachi engineers coming to help (VIDEO)

  • Anthony Anthony

    God help us. Please.


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    • ocifferdave

      USA WEST COASTERS: MOVE!

      If we had our act together like Taco MaGroovey we would have enough food and supplies to last one person perhaps up to 5 years. But what about in 20 to 50 years? MOVE!

      Big corp lobbyist are smart. They eventually will get legislation to pass that will conceal where food was created (ie carrots from CA will say carrots from USA, etc). MOVE!

      Our purified water won’t stay purified forever since purified water legally allows even acceptable levels of fecal material. Do you think they have ANY checking of radioactive particles, let alone we dont have any power to make them check? MOVE!

      Many of us have or will have kids someday. We can’t control what they eat at school, at holiday gatherings/church picknics/parades/carnivals, who they marry and have kids with that may or may not care about Fukushima after effects. MOVE!

      Our excuse that we must stay at our current job, church, friends, family, favorite town is illogical since we are choosing to surround ourselves with people that don’t give a damn about Fukushima and thus this puts us under constant stress and depreciates the value of being in this social environment we had originally chosen prior to Fukushima. MOVE!

      Like beggining an excercise routine you just need to move somewhere safer first. Once you break the ice then you may find the ultimate place to move and move there even quicker. Don’t wait to find that perfect spot, perfect job, etc, while you stew and cook in radiation, and lose precious health and future options (the world won’t be such a convenient place to move around in forever). MOVE!

      If one of us makes the first move you will be doing a huge favor for the rest of us. Break the sick cycle. MOVE!

      -This is David Officer and I approve of this message.

      http://www.peekyou.com/david_officer/201699779


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      • radegan

        “They eventually will get legislation to pass that will conceal where food was created (ie carrots from CA will say carrots from USA, etc.”

        Already happened at my markets, Dave – watched that change come in August. I see some restaurants now advertising their ‘local’ lettuce.


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      • Erin

        ocifferdave – But WHERE?! Where will be “safe?” Every week, sometimes every day, we hear about another crisis/accident/”event” at another plant(s), some here in N. America, others farther away.

        IMO, the solution is not to move all of us — the only practical solution to keep us all safER is to close the damn nuclear power plants asap!


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        • ocifferdave

          Isn’t there an austere little village in Australia that is almost completely underground? lol But seriously, I’m still rooting for NZ and Australia. It’s by far better than being directly down wind. Think Chernobyl. The outlying countries got hit harder than South America, no? Distance and Density is your friend in our new nuclear world. In this case Distance we can control first.


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          • Erin

            LOL In theory, I think I agree with you. It’s practically speaking that changes the game for me.

            When we moved to Oregon from Maryland, we had five kids, a dying cat, and a u-haul trailer behind our minivan. It was quite an adventure, to say the least! But now, we have five kids, five cats, two bunnies, a dog, and a whole lot more stuff. I’m pretty sure we can’t drive a u-haul to Australia, soooo … we’re pretty much stuck here in N. America, unless we win the lottery. I can’t even imagine being able to afford a trip to the southern hemisphere for all of us in my lifetime! And if I had to hazard a guess, I think most families would find themselves in similar predicaments.

            I guess I’m becoming sort of fatalistic about the damage already done. There’s nothing even the best and brightest among us here can do to change what’s already happened, but maybe it’s not too late to keep history from repeating itself in another locale. If we can survive this and learn from it, just maybe our kids can inherit a better, safer world.

            I don’t believe the northern hemisphere is doomed yet. But I do believe that every crisis/accident/”event” brings us closer to that end. I just want so much to see “we the people” rise up and put a stop to it before we reach that tipping point!


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          • Erin

            p.s. Does anyone know why the doomsday clock hasn’t moved any closer to midnight since Fukushima?


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          • ocifferdave

            Erin, if I was in your part of America (NE) I would be a lot less worried about my 5 kids, 2 cats, 13 chickens, and 5 fruit trees. I would also be getting milk and meat products from the East Coast instead of the CA on a more regular basis with out trying. I think you are good to go for quite a while. If something really crazy happens you have some buffer of time to get to my area’s level of toxicity.


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          • Erin

            Actually, we’re in Oregon, so I do understand the dilemma. Although I’d like to think I’d pack everyone up and leave if it truly becomes necessary, I do fear that I might not recognize “necessary” until it’s too late.

            We considered visiting relatives in FL during the initial crisis back in March. When TEPCO said it was abandoning the plant, I was ready to start packing. But then news reports came out to reassure us that it was only a temporary evacuation, and we allowed ourselves to feel reassured. Now I feel like an idiot for believing those reports when my gut screamed not to, and I wonder how much risk we took by staying during that time period.

            I don’t want to overreact; don’t want to under-react … it’s a very challenging balance to find!!!


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          • alasanon

            I can assure you that the East Coast still is getting a dosage. :( It is measurably less than the West Coast though. To begin with, the East has more pollution and population, so we already have a burden with that. We do have crazy nukes and the “terrorists” seem to be after DC and NYC. Maybe S. Florida or S. Texas would be more viable?

            I wonder how Europe is faring? Early on their readings were only 1/10 of what the US. West has taken on. I wouldn’t sweat that!! Granted, they have some fiscal issues…


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          • alasanon

            Europe still has that radioactive layer & memories from Chernobyl. A friend in Switzerland said that they hear nothing about any concerns with it…all they have seen re: Fukushima has been on CNN.


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        • Net

          I agree Erin. Where do we move to? Most power plants which are located all over the US are accidents ready to happen! just like Fukishima some of our plants are old and not being kept up to standards. Which state is safe? Which country is safe? Going south is not feasible for most of us. I just hope we can someday have no more nuclear power plants.


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          • Net

            Florida has nuclear power plants and their was one having issues not too long ago. Possible leaking radiation. http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1990-01-23/news/9001233485_1_water-leak-nuclear-power-power-plant of course the officials said, “The situation was ”very controlled and very safe,” so if you believe that then maybe Florida is a safe spot.


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          • Erin

            I hear you, Net!

            And a big THANK YOU to enenews for helping us all to learn more about these issues!!!


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          • Erin

            Welllll … Florida seemed safer than the pacific NW back then. LOL


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          • ocifferdave

            We on the West Coast are between a Rock and a Hard Place. The Rock being Fukushima to our West, the Hard Place being all the Nuclear Power Plants downwind of us towards the East. So if you move East Coast, you are downwind from most Nuclear Power Plants in the US. Yes you have escaped a large portion of the contaminated food/water from the West Coast Fukushima tainting…but eventually it will be REALLY bad for the East Coast when a Solar Storm knocks out power to the plants accross the US, the wind blows from West to East, and the Eastern Seaboard is contaminated even more than the West Coast in the end. But for now, East Coast is better in the short term than West Coast. MOVE! It breaks the ice, gets you going, gets you in practice, you shed more stuff when you move, you are lighter and less attached if and when you have to leave the US for good. I’m saying that to us West Coasters in general, not any specific one person.


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          • alasanon

            I agree, Dave. I would be outta there, as a precaution and especially, if I or my kids were high risk.

            Children, the medically impaired, elderly, young women, and women in general should explore their options. That would be mandatory in Japan!!


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          • crystalwind crystalwind

            There may be safer isolated areas in the US. For instance, I live in a high desert valley. Rain and snow fall in the higher elevations but rarely reach the ground here, so we haven’t gotten much of the radioactive stuff that hangs around the upper atmosphere. Surrounding higher-level towns have officially reported contaminated milk products and produce. My geiger counter shows higher readings in produce from other states, while local-grown is “clean.” People could start checking for similar situations. Also, check your supermarkets and ethnic markets for imports from south of the border and countries that have not reported Fukushima fallout. And forget about milk. However, I found Nestle’s has Nido brand powdered milk from Chile, which I use to make yogurt, sour cream and buttermilk. They sell it at a Food City market here that has a lot of Hispanic customers, in the baby food department. I found some imported canned foods in Family Dollar Store. You can also special order large sacks of grains from health food stores. Ask at your markets. When ordering, specify that you want a 2010, not 2011 batch. Anything harvested before last summer is pre-Fukushima. Try to find out where they order from. Call the supplier and verify what year matches what batch; place your order for that year’s grain.Strauss Creamery in Petaluma, CA was rumored to have “safe” dairy products. I got some of their yogurt and it returned a “clean” reading but the sour cream did not. (Go figure…)Tofu from all states that are available in my area have been “dirty” but tempeh from Oregon was clean. That company’s soybeans are from a clean area. So…have fun with research!


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  • Dr. McCoy

    The doctor says duck and cover.


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  • pure water

    Where to, doctor? Fly away with Spock, may be. When they started juggling with those old bottles, I strongly suspected, there was something that strongly needed hiding. Their reports for Daiini sound absurd too – cold shut down and efforts to keep it. Having in mind their notions about shut down…


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  • lam335 lam335

    How did this happen? I thought those reactors weren’t even operating when the earthquake/tsunami struck?


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  • James Tekton James Tekton

    God does help those who help them selves.

    There will come to light even more of these things that have been stewing and brewing there. The worst is yet to come.

    Sad to see the japanese are not doing more to help themselves. They are such an intelligent civilization and still, there are still way to many living in the state of denial, and not in japan. The bodies are there, but the real consciousness of the un-holy situation seems to not be. They should have had mass migrations go south and west by now.

    This also brings to note the reason why we have been seeing higher readings in the waves that are hitting the west coast and mid-west over the last few weeks. When we see these highs there, it is four to six days before it hits the US so everyone that has a counter should be gathering measurements. Here it comes again.

    We are expecting precipitation, snows, and colds coming in the next few days. They have been chemtrailing like crazy so that means one of two, or both things. Flu or wet weather coming, or both.


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    • westcoastgirl westcoastgirl

      It was very foggy today in Marin (north of SF)…I wish I had time to sit outside and test things, but I had to work. I have noticed that when I stay in one place, the measurements are higher. I hope to have some time to do more of this soon. I’m sure there will be more days like this in the future…

      In the meantime, I try to stay out of the fog as much as possible.


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    • americancommntr

      You do know, don’t you, that Mark Twain wrote that, and it is not from the Bible? In one of Twain’s books, the character Tom Sawyer was hungry, saw someone’s apples, and as he stole one said that phrase.


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  • fireguyjeff fireguyjeff

    Admin:
    “In the graph below, the top horizontal line (1.0E +02) is equal to 100 Bq/liter and the line below that (1.0E +01) is equal to 10 Bq/liter. The bottom line is zero.”

    “The bottom line is zero.” needs to be

    “The bottom line is one.”

    The horizontal axis (abscissa) of the graph is linear for time.

    The vertical axis (ordinate) of the graph is logarithmic of
    base 10, hence, every major vertical division represents a 10X change from the one below it.

    In the context of the log vertical scale, there can never be a “zero” option.
    Hence, by definition, the log of zero is undefined.

    Just trying to help clarify things here.

    And thanks for all of the great work here from admin and everyone else who posts here.

    Enenews feels like the “best kept secret” reality based site on the net. I log in here before I go any where else for news during any given day.


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    • fireguyjeff

      …Tepco turns the chart upside down and says everything
      is fine

      Seems like Nuclear Plants all around the world are in breakdown, meltdown, closed down, sit on way too fragile fault lines, are too old, too broken, or have way too many “spent” fuel rods hanging around too.

      red red wine


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      • fireguyjeff fireguyjeff

        RRW:
        Think of these beastly BWR as phenomenally complex machines.
        And like all machines, stuff wears out and eventually breaks.

        I remember years ago when one of the Detroit auto makers had a 70k mile power train warranty. And how interesting is was that the transmission tended to have a MTTF (mean time to failure) of about 71k miles. Or less. But not less than 70k! They knew ahead of time how long until things would break, statistically. And that was obviously very much a part of the business model.

        Now imagine that applied to maybe a 30 year MTTF for nuclear reactors. And they know that there is no warranty to deal with!
        We are seeing the effects now, in real time.
        And to compound the problem, you know that plenty of the welding and parts/systems designs were given to the lowest bidders. That should help you sleep at night!

        I personally knew a journeyman pipe fitter and journeyman electrician who both worked on constructing the Trojan nuclear plant that was maybe 20 mile NW of Portland, OR. back in the 70s.
        Their stories of 3 Stooges situations during the construction phase seemed endless.

        And then it was left to be run by a bunch of Homer Simpsons.

        We got lucky in that it was decommissioned before it ever melted down. Yet we, and not PGE, are stuck with the spent fuel pool and no where for that crap to go.

        They shut it down for only one reason…it was soon going to cost more to run it than the revenue it generated.
        The bean counters pulled the plug on it very quickly.

        One good quake and we could see a lot of the Trojan spent fuel debris going out the mouth of the Columbia River and down the coast line. But fear not, some lowest bidder security guards are baby sitting the SPF for us.


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    • The_New_Normal The_New_Normal

      And thanks for all of the great work here from admin and everyone else who posts here.

      Enenews feels like the “best kept secret” reality based site on the net. I log in here before I go any where else for news during any given day.
      +1

      I’ve read almost every post, but never made one myself until now. I’m very thankful to have somewhere informative like this to turn to. It’s downright depressing how few sources are actually available.

      Regarding the ; while a log scale has it’s uses, unless you can visualise the compounding of each increment, a log scale is quite misleading. The graph becomes quite flat and increases over time don’t jump out as much as they should.


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  • Jebus Jebus

    NRC: No Water in Spent Fuel Pool of Japan Plant

    WASHINGTON March 16, 2011 (AP)

    The chief of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission said all the water is gone from one of the spent fuel pools at Japan’s most troubled nuclear plant, raising the possibility of widespread nuclear fallout. But Japanese officials denied the pool was dry.

    “There is no water in the spent fuel pool and we believe that radiation levels are extremely high, which could possibly impact the ability to take corrective measures,” NRC Chairman Gregory Jaczko said Wednesday at a U.S. House Energy and Commerce subcommittee hearing.

    If Jaczko was correct, this would mean there was nothing to stop the fuel rods from heating and ultimately melting down. The outer shell of the rods could also ignite with enough force to propel the radioactive fuel inside over a wide area.

    ….

    Also alarming was the information at units 5 and 6, which were in cold shutdown when the earthquake hit and had not been known to be of any concern. Also, the fuel rods in use when those two reactors were shut for maintenance remain inside their reactor vessels.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=13150227


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  • Japan suspects radiation leak from fuel rods at plant in Fukui prefecture
    May 03, 2011
    Radioactive leakage from fuel rods at a nuclear power plant in the city of Tsuruga in Fukui prefecture on Honshu island of Japan are believed to be the cause of a surge in the density of toxic substances detected in coolant water, the prefectural government said Monday.

    Japan Atomic Power Company, owner and operator of the potentially faulty nuclear plant, has said it will attempt to manually override the plant’s No. 2 reactor’s system in an effort to contain the leak and conduct further investigation into its critical cooling systems.

    The utility firm operating the 1,160-megawatt No.2 reactor at its Tsuruga nuclear plant cited “technical difficulties” at the reactor and while claiming there had been no radiation leak did confirm a possible leak of iodine from the reactor’s nuclear fuel assemblies into its coolant system, adding a new saga to the nation’s ever-unfolding nuclear crisis.

    While intensive fact-finding continues, experts are drawing similarities with leaking fuel assemblies which sparked an ongoing nuclear crisis in Fukushima prefecture, following the partial meltdown of nuclear fuel rods in assemblies at quake and …
    http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90777/90851/7367598.html

    Tsuruga, Fukui
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuruga,_Fukui

    Tsuruga Nuclear Power Plant
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuruga_Nuclear_Power_Plant

    Other Japan reactors leaking,,,Checking some early story’s and found this !!!


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  • link !
    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php

    anne wrote
    October 24, 2011 at 10:33 pm · Reply
    This was also on this map:
    Enviroment Pollution
    Event date: 22.10.2011 16:34:03
    Country: Japan
    State: Prefecture of Chiba
    Location:Kashiwa City [-]

    What is this?
    —–
    xdrfox wrote
    Enviroment Pollution in Japan on Saturday, 22 October, 2011 at 16:34 (04:34 PM) UTC.
    Base data
    EDIS Number: ED-20111022-32786-JPN
    Event type: Enviroment Pollution
    Date/Time: Saturday, 22 October, 2011 at 16:34 (04:34 PM) UTC
    Last update: —
    Cause of event:
    Damage level: Minor
    Geographic information
    Continent: Asia
    Country: Japan
    County / State: Prefecture of Chiba
    Area:
    City: Kashiwa City
    Coordinate: N 35° 52.057, E 139° 58.551
    ————-
    xdrfox wrote
    uranium 235 found in chiba ?
    http://enenews.com/breaking-neutron-ray-measured-in-tokyo-uranium-235-found-in-chiba-cant-be-detected-by-most-

    geiger-counters-photo-video
    —-
    Jebus wrote
    October 21, 2011 at 8:05 pm · Reply
    Does anyone remember this?
    http://enenews.com/june-30-meeting-revealed-depleted-uranium-storage-facility-burned-after-quake-contained-765-

    kg-du

    —-
    xdrfox wrote
    Is this were the storage facility burned that was full of uranium near the docks that was talked about by someone

    here a few days ago ?? Someone brought it up, it caught fire when the Tsunami hit on 3/11 !
    —-
    xdrfox wrote
    June 30 meeting revealed depleted uranium storage facility burned after quake — Contained 1,800 lbs. of DU

    On June 30 Chiba Prefectural Assembly held meetings of 2 standing committees [...] it was revealed that the LPG

    (liquefied petroleum gas) tank fire and explosion at Cosmo Oil Refinery in Ichihara City, Chiba also burned the

    adjacent depleted uranium storage facility. There was no leak of radioactive materials, according to the

    committee.
    The Chiba prefectural fire department disclosed that the depleted uranium storage facility’s roof was burned down

    because of the…


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  • Seems we have multiple areas emitting radioactive materials blowing all over the fukan place !!!
    Fuka No.1, 3, 4, 5, 6, plus Fuel pools there, and blown all over Kingdom Come !

    Depleted uranium storage facility in Chiba, Contained 1,800 lbs. of DU.

    Radioactive leakage from fuel rods at a nuclear power plant in the city of Tsuruga in Fukui prefecture on Honshu island

    No wonder the place is covered, where else ???


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    • VanneV anne

      Don’t forget the 4 reactors at Fuku Daini which TEPCO says for months that 3 of these are at the same level of crisis as the #4 reactor at Fuku Dai ichi. We know that there are serious problems at this #4 reactor, so why would Fuku Daini not also be in meltdown?


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    • VanneV anne

      There seems to be a chain reaction from every earthquake. The whole island seems to be going up in smoke. An earthquake and subsequent volcanic eruption in 1793 caused a part of Japan to fall int the ocean and 55,000 people perished.


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      • My thoughts from the onset, cracked concrete and piping at numerous plants, there was also the plant that was said to have had a switch box/current box fire !
        What all habe they not been truthful about !!!
        The Growing list of Fukushima Scandals

        For anyone keeping an eye on what’s been happening with the Fukushima disaster in Japan it has become very clear that nobody is getting the full story on what is happening. Thanks to the mainstream media and nuclear industry tacticians most people have bought the “official” version and moved on. The nuclear industry’s damage control activities which were modeled on a sophisticated version of how BP managed the massive Gulf Oil spill in 2010. They are using the Japanese people who were hit by the triple whammy as a national sacrifice area just as the US did to the Dine people (Navajo) with uranium mining. Or how the nuclear industry and its handlers have reduced Chernobyl, the largest industrial disaster in history down to a single number with the specious claim that only 56 people died. Aren’t we are watching the same thing happen again with Fukushima? …
        http://www.energy-net.org/blog/2011/10/23/the-growing-list-of-fukushima-scandals/


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      • “55,000 people perished”
        They may well have been the lucky ones to the HORRORS that await the rest !


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  • Jebus Jebus

    And for future fun, from the past…

    World’s biggest nuclear plant in middle of earthquake zone
    By David McNeill

    Saturday July 21 2007

    ONE wonders what the pitch was: building the planet’s largest nuclear power plant on one of its most seismically unstable plots of real estate. Yet, somehow here the plant squats on the outskirts of this town of 93,000 people, a seven-reactor, 8,200 megawatt monster, ringed by roads that are cracked and buckled from this week’s deadly earthquake.

    Inside, in the seconds after the 6.8 quake struck under the sea just 12 miles away, pipes burst, drums of radioactive waste toppled and monitors stopped working.

    ….

    Japanese nuclear plants are designed to withstand a 6.5 quake, but the construction regulations are 25 years old and new rules issued this year recommended an upgrade to 6.7. Perhaps half of Japan’s plants will have to be refitted to meet the new requirements, and some may even have to be shut. Insiders suggest that a quake resistance of 7.0 will have to be the new design basis, a deceptively small change which would cost hundreds of millions of dollars. The new regulations may demand that geologists identify quake faults active up to 130,000 years ago, a reaction to the stunning revelation that the Kashiwazaki-Kariwa plant sat atop an active fault.

    “The logic of nuclear power is that the companies want to reduce the costs of earthquake-resistant design as much as possible,” says anti-nuclear academic Professor Tetsuji Imanaka. As the quake hit, a gravestone in a village a few miles away toppled and smashed into pieces.

    The grave belonged to legendary former Prime Minister Kakuei Tanaka, Japan’s postwar master of pork-barrel politics and an early proponent of energy self-sufficiency.

    http://www.independent.ie/world-news/asia-pacific/worlds-biggest-nuclear-plant-in-middle-of-earthquake-zone-1041926.html

    History, Rinse, Repeat…


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  • pure water

    Firm memory is crucial for thinking. You have it and it is for good! The problem is we always deal with contradicting reports and have to compare contradictions, not data. But it works for now, like understanding a foreign language with less than half of the needed vocabulary. If someone has gathered enenewsers in an investigation agency, he could make wonders!


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  • Nigwil

    Mmm..
    Temperatures in 5 & 6 look consistent with past records – scroll down to see the latest (25th October)
    http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/f1/images/csv_temp_data_56u-e.csv

    Apart from the early issues with power supply the reactors and spent fuel ponds seem to be well below 100C all the way, with nothing out of the ordinary recently. For cesium to be released from 5 or 6 there must be something else going on apart from water level?


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  • pure water

    Fortunately, due to the maintenance outage and the survival
    of one diesel generator, it seems that unit 5 reactor cores as well as spent fuel ponds
    have not suffered major fuel damage and did not produce large emissions. Therefore,
    they are not included in the further considerations.
    The quote is from the Discussion paper here:
    http://www.atmos-chem-phys-discuss.net/11/28319/2011/acpd-11-28319-2011.html
    link for download is at the bottom


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  • pure water

    And in the same report there are question marks on the places for numbers of fuel assemblies in core for reactors 5 and 6. The pools were heavily loaded – 994 and 940, but not like this of the reactor 4 – 1535 fuel assemblies.


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  • Human0815

    This Report has no Value at all!

    I don”t say: Daini is Genki as Hell
    but what that Guy try to tell us
    is absolute useless!


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  • arclight arclight

    lol
    “john west…tuna…discover the story behind every can” the advert i got at the start of the video :)

    pr webbot targetting?? we do talk about tuna alot :)


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  • tomb1

    I suspect that this radiation is from R1-R4. The underground is full of cracks and water is pouring though them. This has been officilly stated several times.

    These measurements relate to the *water outlet* of R5 and R6. There is simply no way to stop the hot water from flowing everywhere.


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  • selfsovereign

    Translation available @

    http://www.youtube.com/user/koizuka77#p/u/0/xd9dAa0x-5g

    Good place to check every 2-3 days


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  • Whoopie Whoopie

    23rd Leuren Moret: 100,000 excess deaths in North America in 2011 from Fukushima
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mudMjxSaZA


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  • Sh*t

    Fukushima Underwater Video Heat Pumps Reactor Units 5 and 6 TEPCO 10/24/11

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IPG8gM__qE&feature=related

    at 3.03 in the video pause… , then 4.03 to 4.13…

    Now keep in mind that this is recorded underwater and that you can clearly see molten mass comming up.

    Is this how “china syndrome” looks like?


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    • tomb1

      I’ve seen the video but I am not able to see/interpret anything at 3:03 or 4:03. What do you see there?


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      • Whoopie Whoopie

        I was hoping someone else would address you because I can’t believe you dont see what we’re seeing. At the bottom of the reactor is a circle and it gets real bright @ both 3:03 and 4. Watch again. IT’S THERE.


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    • Misitu

      Had a look and checked the other posts, but to me it seems that there is no reason to suspect corium or any form of heat in this tank. There is no turbulence as from superheated water, no convection currents from the red pipe, and the camera seems to be working fine (not burnt electronics).

      For me it is good to debate points of issue, and this seems to be one of the lesser avenues to investigate. That might not be everyone’s point of view, but so what. At least we have had a chance to look, reason, and speculate.

      Were it to have been live corium anywhere near the photos, there would either have been no photos, or a bit later a rather sick photographer.

      My 2p.
      M.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    This is a great link….which I’m going to now watch several times…11:39….


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  • I remind you that you Earthmen are only a tiny minority in this galaxy.


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  • I guess the video is a confirmation of a meltdown at unit 5.

    If i understand correctly this video is taken in the water chamber above the reactor.


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  • AkDave AkDave

    What the heck Japan get your act together.


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    • ocifferdave

      When are shall we West Coast Dave’s move? Can you imagine the negative health effects of our food in 20 to 50 years? Our poor kids.


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      • AkDave AkDave

        ocifferdave, at this point unless we all move far south It’s not looking good? It’s my grand kids and all kids I feel for! some are saying 50% or more birth-defects coming soon. At this time my part of Alaska is doing better then the west coast and it’s only a matter of time even far south will have it too.


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        • StillJill StillJill

          Yes AKDave,…I think of my Grandbabies too. I’m sure the eldest,..the girl,…is dreaming of being a ‘Mommy’ one day. Her DNA strand,…down their in San Diego,…is all FUKU’d up. We all know that,…except her,….and her Mom and Dad,…who will not listen.


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          • ocifferdave

            @AKDave, Im glad to hear you and my friends in alaska are not having as bad a radiation dosage as the rest of the Coast!

            @StillJill, I hope you become a multi millionaire and move them to Safetierland (wherever that may be long term)!


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          • AkDave AkDave

            Sadly StillJill, we get the same thing not that again that’s all over you guys need to move on! Kids Dang!!!


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Yes..that was my assumption to begin with…5 and 6 are simply not far enough away not to have been damaged.


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  • Water in the video looks just like the Lake at the cottage where I fish for trout and bass.

    red red wine


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    • ion jean ion jean

      LOVE FISHING FOR TROUT AND BASS!!! Local VT trout are the only safe fish left for my family to eat. The bass I catch and release, because it’s so much fun and because their mercury load is too high.


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  • ion jean ion jean

    According to wikipedia:

    One plant generator at Unit 6 was restored to operation on 17 March, and external power returned to Units 5 and 6, on 20 March, allowing cooling equipment to be restarted. THEN…

    Reactors 5 and 6 were also shut down when the earthquake struck although, unlike reactor 4, they were still fueled. The reactors have been closely monitored

    as cooling processes were not functioning well.

    ON TOP OF THAT, i THINK CONSTANT STEAM EXPLOSIONS UNDERGROUND ERUPTING THROUGH FISSURES IN THE EARTH MIGHT DISTURB UNITS 5 AND 6 JUST A LITTLE MORE THAN THEY WERE ALREADY DISTURBED. BUT WHO KNOWS? SURE AS HELL NO ONE IN THE POSITION OF HAVING A VESTED INTEREST IS GOING TO TELL US, AS I’M PRETTY CONVINCED THEY KNOW


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    • Misitu

      to ion jean re “EXPLOSIONS UNDERGROUND ERUPTING THROUGH FISSURES IN THE EARTH MIGHT DISTURB UNITS 5 AND 6″

      That is a rather good point.

      It would all rather depend on the site geography and the status/whereabouts of the melted cores.


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      • Nigwil

        Fuku 5 and 6 are 500 metres north of unit 1. The massive explosions of unit 1, 3 and 2 didn’t seem to knock 5 or 6 too much, so it will take an underground explosion greater than those to do more damage, I guess. Difficult to envisage a true ‘underground’ explosion – hydrogen needs space to accumulate – say in a basement, while an underground steam explosion probably needs some sudden combination of cold water with hot corium in a confined place.

        I think a continual fizzing of corium and ground water is more likely (for the next 10,000 to 100,000 years) including eternal discharges of that groundwater downslope into the ocean is more likely than a sudden event.

        The exceptions available are of course either an aftershock collapsing a spent fuel pond (they’re way up on the 4th/5th floor) or the eventual collapse of the structure over a few decades as old buildings do what they always do – rot, corrode, spall to bits and fall down. Either of those will expose fuel to air in massive quantities (100s of tonnes) and away we go again. By then of course the world will be out of oil, and now one will be on site to do anything about it except watch which way the wind is blowing!


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        • VanneV anne

          It’s possible that #5 and #6 melted down in March and we just weren’t told anything until now. Or the corium from #3 and #4 may have spread through the landfill to #5 and #6. Or one of the many earthquakes since 3/11 damaged the coolant pipes at #5 and #6 causing a meltdown.

          Also the reactors at Fukushima Daini could have also melted down in March or later because of broken coolant pipes.


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          • Nigwil

            Well TEPCO’s temperature records show reactor 5 was at 175C and reactor 6 at 150C at 21:15 on the 14 March. So they were boiling away then. Which is odd as they were theoretically in cold shutdown and unfuelled. Others here have said
            ‘unfuelled’ means having a proportion of the fuel removed to the spent fuel ponds – so i assume what’s left was the source of heat.

            Neither reactor returned to below 100C until the 20th March when their cool 5 then cool 6 process settled down and some power was restored to both cooling systems, I guess.

            Neither of the spent fuel ponds reached 100C.

            So again, if 5-6 are releasing noble metals / radiation then there is something odd happening that the temperature records don’t show. Ive dropped the data in to excel, and the cooling profile for pool 5 dropped abruptly over a day or so end of June from 43C to 28C, and a similar change in profile happened for pool 6 around mid September. Since then both pools have followed very similar temperatures – usually within 0.2 degrees C – sometimes apart by up to 0.8 degrees C.

            Interesting too that the given reactor temps for 5 and 6 also track within a degree of each other, with a brief excursion to 8 degrees apart.

            At present both reactors are at around 25C and both pools at about 23C.

            This could be a profile of a plant genuinely in cold shutdown. I hope so.

            Its worth using Google Earth’s Fight Simulator to fly over the site. This shows that there is a 100′ high ridge between units 1-4 and units 5-6. This will protect 5-6 from direct blast effects from anything going on at 1-4, but obviously not from ballistic descending debris.


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  • Whoopie Whoopie

    OK who is this John Badera
    @Jbadera @lendio I also invented technology to entomb Fukushima unlike Chernobyl. But competed isolated form radiation. Where are you?
    I tried going to his tweet page and it came up blank. Wonder what his tech is to entomb, if anything. His tweet sparked my interest.


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    • Misitu

      I think we already covered entombment, Whoopie.

      If you entomb loosely, like Chernobyl or the tent at Number 1, the risk of contamination escape by air is increased, and the risk of water ingress and contamination escape is increased. Not a great idea.

      Moving on.

      If you entomb closely, like covering the reactor buildings with concrete, there is an ongoing risk of explosion which would have catastrophic contamination effects. Moreover it would be an engineering project beyond all current experience.

      If you found nothing, Whoopie, and I am sure you did a good deal of legwork, it might, disappointingly, turn out that jbadera was one of those temporary internet entities set up for reasons other than the obvious.

      Maybe, sorry.

      Misitu


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  • moonshellblue moonshellblue

    Underwater video of heat exchange at reactors 5 and 6http://youtu.be/-on5epAwGMs


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  • thelili

    Relocate,relocate,relocate.

    I’m West Coast-where would I go? Lol no one wants sick people that cannot contribute to their active,productive society.(What sarcasm lol?)

    The East Coast would think they are “safe” or “smarter” and would ignore the signs…until they got sick.

    So on and so forth. Distance creates this illusion that somehow people can repels the elements. If you lived in the center of the Earth you could not avoid quakes :)

    We have made a horrible error that affected our brothers(GE is American made). We will pay for it with our lives. That is the situation. We will keep informing others so that the next generations will make less ridiculous choices.

    Our time is up. We should make it count.


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  • thelili

    Repel the elements is what I meant to say in the post above :) But if you need something else to worry about…I’d pay attention to Ibaraki…

    The naysayers that argue about what the see on the video please remember:

    That you have now been breathing in poisoned air and water since March the 11th. There is no ETA for containing it. Since you are so adamant about shooting down the “hysterical” types you have allowed the media to take your words and allow others to die. The media said Irradiated California is fine and calm so the other peoples symptoms must not be correct.But the Japanese-their symptoms weren’t “hysterical” were they? They were real.

    Now babies get to die and the mothers we should have helped back in March will die with them.

    Everyone proud of themselves now? Feel good about walking into your tomb quietly and peacefully? What a legacy. Of cowardice.


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  • StillJill StillJill

    thelili,…you are now one of my heros,…for whatever that’s worth! :-)


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    …..mmmmmmmmm..haven’t been second guessed this hard since I left home…lol.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    That grey goop…that’s corium.
    Why would the inside of the pipes glow (reflect)red when …when there is no indication of red in the spotlight?


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  • StillJill StillJill

    It certainly looks ALIVE, I trust you and others know what corium would look like. I’m just saying that, while this is a ‘smoking gun’, is it THE smoking gun? I’m also thinking about the shifting left of the webcam. Is not that glow down past #5 and 6? That there is recriticality, I’m certain. That the water and cooling systems are all ‘globbing together’, on all 6,…YES,…that is my belief. Should I expect to see corium where it ought not be? Yes. If that’s what it looks like, I can be convinced.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    @StillJill..I just call it like I see it.
    I think ..I’m right..this is very serious business.


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  • And this is where Narodychi comes in. The center of Narodychi is 60 kilometers away from the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. Of the settlement’s 30,000 residents, 20,000 people evacuated when the disaster struck in 1986. Twenty-five years on, what’s become of the people who remained in Narodychi for one reason or another?

    “I’ve been conducting interviews with the residents for years, and the trends that have emerged, including from interviews conducted with doctors at the district’s central hospital, is that about 70 percent of the people clearly feel that they have developed health problems …

    http://mdn.mainichi.jp/perspectives/news/20111024p2a00m0na007000c.html


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  • Chiba teen in trouble for selling radioactive key holder

    A 15-year-old Chiba teen was reported to prosecutors for selling radioactive key holders online, but has avoided being charged.
    Police reported the teenager to the prosecutors, accusing him of breaking the law concerning prevention from radiation hazards by possessing and selling key holders measured as containing more than 12 times the regulated level of tritium. Tritium illumination is the use of gaseous tritium, a radioactive isotope of …
    http://www.majiroxnews.com/2011/09/28/chiba-teen-in-trouble-for-selling-radioactive-key-holder/


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  • pg

    I knew it. With the new discovery of Ceasium 131 in Tokyo last week, it had to come fro one of three places.

    Daini
    Oganawa
    or reactor 5 & 6

    Get ready for a new wave of radiation


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  • LEFTYM0M65 LEFTYMOM65

    Hi everyone, I’ve have gone and put myself out on a limb. There is a News Podcast out of NYC called “The Majority Report with Sam Seder.” I am a regular listener and supporter. Sam subs for Keith Olberman and Dylan Ratigan from time to time and has connections is many, many places. He has been doing extensive coverage of the OWS movement way before anyone else did. I have contacted him with my concerns regarding the media blackout of coverage on the impending radiation exposure.

    It is a moral duty for the general population to be warned and given directions to protect themselves and their children. It’s not a left wing/right wing issue. It’s a right/wrong issue. I provided all the links on Fukushima Daily, A copy of Alexey Yablokov’s report on Chernobyl, links to different podcasts from across the country. I hope he will help.


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