Report: Massive radiation leak at Fukushima plant — Extremely high levels being detected outside reactor — Officials can’t explain why — Expert warns of global threat: “It’s a disaster of unseen proportions” (VIDEO)

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The Independent, Feb 2, 2018 (emphasis added): Fukushima nuclear disaster: Lethal levels of radiation detected in leakExpert warns of ‘global’ consequences unless the plant is treated properly… [Tepco] found eight sieverts per hour of radiation, while 42 [sieverts] were also detected outside its foundations… It came as Tepco said the problem of contaminated water pooled around the plants three reactors that is seeping into the ground has caused a major headache in its efforts to decommission the plant… Mycle Schneider, an independent energy consultant and lead author of the World Nuclear Industry Status Report, said that Tepco “hasn’t a clue what it is doing” in its job to decommission the plant. He added that the contaminated water that is leaking at the site could end up in the ocean if the ongoing treatment project fails and cause a “global” disaster, he told The Independent… “I find it symptomatic of the past seven years, in that they don’t know what they’re doing, Tepco, these energy companies haven’t a clue what they’re doing, so to me it’s been going wrong from the beginning. It’s a disaster of unseen proportions.” Mr Schneider added that the radiation leaks coupled with the waste from the plant stored in an “inappropriate” way in tanks could have global consequences… “This can get problematic anytime, if it contaminates the ocean there is no local contamination, the ocean is global, so anything that goes into the ocean goes to everyone.” He added: “It needs to be clear that this problem is not gone, this is not just a local problem. It’s a very major thing.”

NHK, Feb 1, 2018: High radiation detected at Fukushima plant… A remote-controlled inspection of the Unit 2 reactor containment vessel last month detected a maximum of 8 sieverts per hour of radiation… [Tepco] said the radiation reading was taken near what appeared to be fuel debris, the term used to describe a mixture of molten fuel and broken interior parts… radiation levels remain so high that they present a major challenge to decommissioning work. During the probe, 42 sieverts per hour of radiation was also detected outside the foundations of the reactor. But officials said they have doubts about the accuracy of the reading because a cover had not been removed from the measuring instrument at the time. They added that they don’t know why radiation levels were lower near the suspected fuel debris than around the foundations. They gave a number of possible reasons, such as that cooling water may have washed radioactive materials off the debris…

RT, Feb 2, 2018: An inspection of the Fukushima nuclear plant has detected extremely high amounts of radiation, says operator TEPCO… Experts can’t explain why radiation levels in fuel debris were lower than outside the reactor’s foundations

Sputnik, Feb 4, 2018: ‘Global Consequences’ of Lethal Radiation Leak at Destroyed Japan Nuclear Plant… While 8 Sv/h is deadly, outside of Fukushima’s Reactor Number 2 foundations… a much higher level of 42 Sv/h was detected. A strange occurrence, and experts are still arguing what caused the discrepancy. One possible explanation is that cooling water washed radioactive material off debris, taking it somewhere else. But here’s a truly terrifying catch: according to the report, Tepco highly doubts the new readings, because, as was discovered later, a cover was not removed from the robot-mounted measurement device at the time of the inspection, NHK World reports… While that radiation dosimeter cover negligence prevents precise calculations, the actual picture inside Unit 2 is thought to be much worse

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  • After years of pointing out the insanity of the "nuclear industry" it is now going "mainstream"

    I hate ABC as the liberal rag that promotes NWO and degeneracy.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/workers-radiation-exposure-halts-nuke-plant-demolition-54321095

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      just to make sure were on the same page; What does liberal mean?

      'Liberal' shares a root with 'liberty' and can mean anything from "generous" to "loose" to "broad-minded." Politically, it means "“a person who believes that government should be active in supporting social and political change."

      We borrowed liberal arts from French in the 14th century, and sometime after this liberal began to be used in conjunction with other words (such as education, profession, and pastime). When paired with these other words liberal was serving to indicate that the things described were fitting for a person of high social status.

      By the 18th century, people were using liberal to indicate that something was “not strict or rigorous.” The political antonyms of liberal and conservative began to take shape in the 19th century,

      Liberals believe in government action to achieve equal opportunity and equality for all. It is the duty of the government to alleviate social ills and to protect civil liberties and individual and human rights.

      Conservatives believe in personal responsibility, limited government, free markets, individual liberty, traditional American values and a strong national defense.

      in·doc·tri·na·tion
      inˌdäktrəˈnāSHən/
      noun
      the process of teaching a person or group to accept a set of beliefs uncritically. Often involves emotional trigger words and themes

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        "I am deeply disappointed in elected officials who have chosen to look away, even when they are aware of the risks." Now Im trying to figure out if it would be a liberal or conservative government that would protect the civil liberties, health and rights of citizens by taking a stand on risk associated with industrial/ corporate business….or conservative. Im going with liberal, but Im not thinking it makes a damn bit of difference in reality

      • no distraction please — let's stay focused on today and now, and the political ramification of the term liberal. not based on other english language uses or historical perspectives. Only what can be defined in todays political landscape, is the practical way we can use it now.

        How to piss off 50% of all people?

        Liberal thinking involves mostly feelings, yours and others. It doesn't involve solid cause and effect logical determinations. It's very altruistic and all, but disregards the true nature of the human being as needing an occasional kick in the rear end, and well as cause and effect in the real world of say "physics".

        On the surface, it is virtuous. And those who wish to influence large groups of people can tap into this need for virtuousity with propaganda on things like, all immigration is good and we should protect all immigrants no matter how they could degrade our country, even though both husband and wife citizens are working 3 jobs to make ends meet.

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          no distraction? IF you believe that liberals ruined the country (just like liberals think the opposite) then you MUST be able to define a liberal and a conservative. Your belief that liberal thinking involves mostly feelings, contrasting cause and effect logic of conservatives, does not tally with scientific analysis…if we are to believe that conservatives are republicans and liberals democrats…

          'We analyzed the transcripts of each address for emotionally charged language, imagery and metaphors. These are the most emotion activating linguistic patterns we can employ in speech.

          Our research found that republicans used 9.2% more emotion words in their speeches than democrats.

          Here is a great example of emotional language by George W. Bush:

          “By our efforts we have lit a fire as well; a fire in the minds of men. It warms those who feel its power. It burns those who fight its progress. And one day this untamed fire of freedom will reach the darkest corners of our world.

          Republican presidents use 3.2% less data than democratic presidents during their inaugural addresses.'

          President Harry S. Truman used the most logic in his inaugural address, while President Barack Obama used the least.
          https://www.scienceofpeople.com/trump-truman-report/

          • DUDe DUDe

            Thanks Code , i diddent see your post before i posted..

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              when viewing a collage of photographs, conservatives' eyes unconsciously lingered 15 percent longer on repellent images, such as car wrecks and excrement

              conservatives possessed more cleaning and organizational items, such as ironing boards and calendars, confirmation that they are orderly and self-disciplined. Liberals owned more books and travel-related memorabilia, which conforms with previous research suggesting that they are open and novelty-seeking.

              …you can tell who is republican by walking past their garages and noting how organized it is.

              Psychologists have found that conservatives are fundamentally more anxious than liberals, which may be why they typically desire stability, structure and clear answers even to complicated questions.

              If you frame environmental action as patriotic, conservatives were much more likely to sign petitions about preventing oil spills and protecting the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

              Conservatives also emphasize loyalty and authority

              And…theyre religious Christians (85%)…evangalical christians in fact (38%, the largest group). 72% believe in hell and 83% believe in heaven vs 56% of liberals. Half of them read scripture at least once a week

              Conservatives rely considerably more on religion to determine right and wrong than liberals and rely half as much on science than liberals for their right vs wrong guidance

              http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/political-ideology/conservative/

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                This above evidence supports my belief that conservatives are more dangerous in an escalating police state. They unquestioningly believe the law is all important. They believe you should follow the orders of police and authority even if its wrong. They are easily swayed by patriotism to mount aggression against foreign AND domestic peoples. They are far more likely to believe in religious prerogative and superiority and that God will save them and forgive their sins.

                A hell of a lot of Murkans are Waiting for the Rapture! And theyre likely conservatives

                4 Reasons Right-Wing Christians Salivate for the End Times
                People like Michele Bachmann and Pat Robertson seem to yearn for the apocalypse.
                https://www.alternet.org/belief/4-reasons-right-wing-christians-salivate-end-times

                https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2014/11/21/yes-half-of-america-believes-that-the-end-times-are-causing-natural-disasters/?utm_term=.19febe0f2cd9

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  Americans are loony and conservatives are leading the pack. But that doesnt let liberals off the hook. Heck, conservatives started out as liberals.

                  77 percent of Americans believe in angels.
                  55 percent of Americans believe that the Founding Fathers established this country as a Christian nation in the Constitution.

                  1 in 4 Americans believe the sun revolves around the Earth. hellooo GOM and Sadie! 🙂

                  41% of americans think Jesus is going to return by 2050. Heck, Jesus can clean up nuclear, he can work miracles!

                  well over 100 million Americans believe Jesus is on his way. Lets bomb the crap out of those infidels, pop a beer don your sunglasses and wait for the rapture!

                  http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2010/07/14/jesus-christs-return-to-earth/

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    Are liberals and conservatives really that different? I made an informal study and I found it very interesting…no let me restate that…I was…tears literally welled up in my eyes to see that americans, DESPITE our differences share common concerns.

                    We, the american people are willing to work together to oust our opposing political party, and that makes our nation great!

                    Americans really care about children and the fetus, conservatives more-so…unless the fetus is from the middle east

                    We hold hands, in a single voice; laborer, truck driver, student, and pray for jobs! Yes, we want wages! Equal oppulunity!

                    Americans everywhere believe in the moral teachings of scripture. And that makes us the best country in the world! Sure, we all sin, the difference is we will be forgiven!

                    And when danger visits our shores…conservatives and liberals are willing to go to war in countries that had nothing to do with attacks…to keep us safe and protect the homeland!

                    And you know what? Thats why we are the only free country and why everyone hates us…because we are free. And if you dont like your country well just pack up and move to some other godless country like Red China, or Amsterdam or New Mexico and see how you like it, because we dont want your complaining treasonous ass here.

            • DUDe DUDe

              "Making people feel threatened turns liberals into conservatives.
              Making people feel safe turns conservatives into liberals."

              So my litle personal novice theory that every organisme under stress will rise (temporarily , untill situation is normalised) its psychopathic levels aka drop its empathy levels to be able to "attack or defend" against the problem..

              Wassen't so far off..actually spot on lolol

              So the stress of global overpopulation alone gives a subconsciences kick to the right..add a litle extra manipulation/propaganda/false flag by the crisismanufacturers..ww3 here we come..

        • DUDe DUDe

          stock you are doing it again..what made me bite my tongue for seven years..i called you out the other day for exactly this (and it IS A STATISCALLY PROVEN SIGN OF THE RIGHTWING PARTY ) and now you are sneakely projecting and generalizing it to the "liberals"..in a authoritative tone..shamefull..

          "Liberal thinking involves mostly feelings, yours and others. It doesn't involve solid cause and effect logical determinations."

          And what is this ??????????????????

          "no distraction please — let's stay focused on today and now, and the political ramification of the term liberal."

  • and still more scary stuff:
    Elon Musk on AI and challenges in and ahead with:
    https://vimeo.com/263108265

  • Very alarming test results in American waters!!!!

    Cs137 Readings Jump from 1.7 to 6.8 in 3 years!!!!

    The first 2018 results of seawater testing on the west coast of America are starting to be reported…

    CS178 , San Luis Obispo #10
    Sample Date: Feb 02, 2018 12:00
    Depth: surf (m)
    Temperature: 14.45 °C
    Cs134: below detection
    Cs137: 6.8 ± 0.2Bq/m3

    Notice Cs137?

    Now let's look in that same area from 2015…

    CS154 , CalCOFI 93.45
    Sample Date: Apr 05, 2015 09:54
    Depth: 3 (m)
    Temperature: 17.9 °C
    Salinity: 33.10
    Cs134: below detection
    Cs137: 1.7 ± 0.1Bq/m3

    So results in the same general region jumped from…

    1.7 to 6.8?

    So is there a ongoing leak somewhere? YES!!!

    Here's a reading from San Onofre in 2015 that is located by a shut down nuclear reactor complex that is located right on the shore…

    CS165 , San Onofre South
    Sample Date: Oct 28, 2015 05:41
    Depth: Surf (m)
    Temperature: 22.5 °C
    Salinity: 33.455
    Cs134: below detection
    Cs137: 1.9 ± 0.2Bq/m3

    You would think that this would show any increase from American shores by proxy of location.

    But 1.9 is the highest reading in that area in 2015.

    What should these facts tell us?

    Is there an increase of this isotope on the west coast of america? Yes!!!

    Is it a normal reading in these waters? NO!!!

    Where is it coming from?

    Why is sea life dying?

    http://www.whoi.edu/maps/kbuessler/fukushimaMap.do

    • Cs levels increase over 6 times in 2 1/2 years!!!!!

      On the west coast shores of America Cs levels are increasing steadily and when looking at this latest reading of:

      Cs134: below detection
      Cs137: 6.8 ± 0.2Bq/m3

      The undeniable proof is that 134 is below detection…

      This should be a glaring and obvious indication of origin as the presence of 137 has increased over 6 fold while there is little 134 (not detected does not mean absolute 0) in the same sample. What does that tell us?

      What this suggests is that the 137 arrived from a long distance away and took a long time to arrive at this location…

      We know that 134 and 137 are found together after a release but 134 has a halflife of 2 1/2 years and would become (mostly) not detectable after 5 years or so. 137 is around for many years after 134 has become invisible to detection by modern standards.

      So a 6+ fold increase of 137 while 134 is below detection is the smoking gun that should prove that this release came from a long distance away and took a long time to present itself at that location.

      137 from Fukushima? Proof positive in my opinion.

      • CS134 kills the plankton quicker with more activity. They sink, thus filtering the water of CS134 quicker than 137.

        "pretty much gone" after 5 years is a mistatement, at least by half life thoery, 2 years, half, 4 year 1/4 5 years, halfway between 1/4 and 1/8, get it?

        3/16 but far from "pretty much gone"

        • Yea I get it but I think we are generally saying the same thing there…

          So after 5 years it (Cs134) may go below detectable amounts but can still be (and will be forever in some form) there.

          A negitive on 134 and a huge uptake in 137 reads proof that it's a old release…

          Check the handbooks on that one…

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            Isotope ratios show definitively the increase in fallout is due to fukushima…which seems to be your point. That doesnt address the impact on the environment. Radioactive fallout hits life at its most sensitive locations…like the increased levels in river runoff, which is birthplace to so much life. The increased sensitivity of newborns and fetus, females.

            Woods Hole gets a failing grade by promoting the theme of 'our radioactive ocean', using outdated toxicology data and concluding no harm. (I like Beusselers papers otherwise)

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              wheres the plutonium? Americium?

              'The 239Pu/137Cs activity ratios, which reflect biogeochemical processes in seawater, increased exponentially from the surface to 1500 m depth'
              https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S007966111000162X

              Downward transport velocity of cesium riding on dead plankton and clayish silt is on the order of 50-100 meters per day. The above shows that Cs137 in surface waters does not correlate linearly to plutonium at depth

              • "wheres the plutonium? Americium?"

                That is a simple one to answer…

                With a inventory of what blew up and leaked…

                …and a first class testing team?

                You already know the ratios of what else is there (most of the thousands of isotopes) from less than a 5 substance check.

                So you get a 137 on 134 report but don't know? Or a I-131/129 ratio reading? What about strontium ratios and the proven links to leukemia? Throw in some H3 and flourides too…

                The fact is, this is a ratio and average count science.

                So if your counter is less sensitive than mine you read 15 and I read 100 everyday for a month is there a problem?

                No…

                …they are both the same reading and steady. If my counter then jumps to 600 and your counter jumps to 90 at or around the same time what does that say?

                So that would be a 6X climb in counts from the 2 counters (of different types) no matter what you tested, how you tested it or what you tested it with.

                Increase is increase no matter what you test or what you test it with or what numbers are displayed.

                10 on your counter may be 1000 on a more sensitive setup.

                Get it?

                A little help?

                Geiger Counter vs. Scintillator:

                https://youtu.be/5x6rnNgRBNg?t=1m41s

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  HD says the plutonium is 'With a inventory of what blew up and leaked'

                  Wrong bozo boy, I posted that because it showed the plutonium was NOT (linearly) with the cesium

                  see, read again ''The 239Pu/137Cs activity ratios, which reflect biogeochemical processes in seawater, increased exponentially from the surface to 1500 m depth'

                  what that says is that the ratio of plutonium239 to cesium 137 radiation activity increased exponentially with depth, reflecting biogeochemical processes.

                  but what does that mean? It means youre wrong because the fallout separates due to biogeochemical processes and a cesium reading at the surface does not have the same ratio with plutonium at depth

                  • You've heard of MOX fuel right?

                    You watched the video of F#3 eject it's contents violently with black smoke instead of steam right?

                    Ya know, Reactor 3, the one loaded with mixed oxide fuel containing reprocessed plutonium right?

                    It (number 3) blew up right?

                    All the others showed to the sides with white smoke one even blew down right?

                    Plutonium? Really? Mox in reactor 3 that blew like a 100 dollar bottle of champain (and no I didn't mean champagne)?

                    So you studied the actual inventory? Or did you just listen to someone else and call BS…

                    https://youtu.be/awk19Vuia60?t=28m9s

                  • Well damn who knew it could be that doubletalking complicated…

                    So you think it means what?

                    "It means youre wrong because the fallout separates due to biogeochemical processes and a cesium reading at the surface does not have the same ratio with plutonium at depth"

                    What about the real simple (and actual truth) fact that plutonium is probably the heaviest metal ever created by man? Could that simple fact have something to do with it sinking to earth quicker than Sc's?

                    Nahh huh…

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actinides_in_the_environment

                    • Oh yea and what do we call metal rust? A oxide of the metal (regardless of the type of metal)?

                      So titainium dioxide is a broken down form of titainum right? But what about the DI in dioxode?

                      Intelligence has it's limits, Dane brammage and ignorance (ignoring stuff) knows no bounds…

                      Einstein inspired myth (that sucks) and real world truth?

                      Gotta pick? Yepper…

                      Wowsers, don't pick wrong…

                      Fake complaining that we can do nothing about any of it?

                      20 MOST INSPIRING ANIMAL RESCUES:
                      https://youtu.be/7kleY-6MvMY

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      HD sedimentation seems to be mainly related to the affinity or ability to be absorbed onto particles of stuff in the ocean, not the density of the radionuclide as one might think. Compared to cesium, the plutonium is absorbed more readily by particles of biogenic origin and sinks with the particle to lower levels

                  • What it means is you have absolutely no idea about how they find the ratios, I never said they were one to one

                    The experts can tell you by looking at ratios of a few easily detectable substances, then they use time, distance and known inventory ratio formulas to determine what other of the 1000+ isotopes are there and in what quantities

                    And they have done it successfully (proven) many times

                    And that's a huge time saver over trying to test for a thousand different isotopes (some nearly impossible to detect) in one place. After all they are testing 1000's of sites world wide continually and have been for decades.

                    So…

                    106Ru can determine the relative proportion of 239Pu fissions to total fissions. On the
                    other hand, an isotope like 37CS has nearly identical fission yields from both 235U and 239Pu. The 137CS gamma-ray output can be used to determine the total number of fissions.

                    http://www.lanl.gov/orgs/n/n1/panda/00326413.pdf

                    Here's another example of using 137 to find the ratios of much harder to detect isotopes…

                    https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/e43b/e6b37d7631c4e92ce2fb6ee1db74c9353d6e.pdf

                    And stop telling me what I said, I know what I said, so does anybody that can read and understand simple English, you never repeat what I actually stated and always try to take a true statement change it into something false anyway.

                    And you do it every time.

                    A true mark of a troublemaker and a cover up fool nuke shill…

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      did HD say this;

                      "And stop telling me what I said, I know what I said, so does anybody that can read and understand simple English, you never repeat what I actually stated and always try to take a true statement change it into something false anyway.

                      And you do it every time."

                      for your information, isotope activity ratios wont tell you the correct quantity of some other radionuclide unless you consider biogeochemical processes. It is in fact this realization that allowed me to uncover the relationship of chitin to high bioaccumulation rates (and thence even weather modification from fallout caused plankton die off)

                      thus we see you missed the point a second and third time.

                    • So according to you (code) the proven true equations to both predict and show the other isotopes in that area are wrong?

                      But you figured it out sitting in a room with a 500 dollar computer?

                      Wow you should apply for a government job and teach these experts of your hands on prospecting and testing results!

                      So don't rely on millions of dollars of equipment, over 60 years of study by hundreds of genius educated people and thousands of past and proven surveying techniques from real prospecting and detection and predictions followed by real testing to see if the equations actually worked.

                      What do you use to find these isotopes?

                      Have you gone to the test site and tested to see if the readings were true?

                      Ever taken samples back to a multi million dollar lab and tested to see if your assumptions about the other isotopes in the area were correct?

                      Ever made a prediction on all isotopes present and then scanned the samples gathered with a 50 thousand dollar MCA? Do you even know what a MCA is?

                      Have you checked your supposed results even once using anything other than opinion to know for sure instead of guess?

                      I guess not and didn't even have to flip the power on to know beyond a reasonable doubt.

                      It is a fact you have no experience in the detection or prediction of isotopes in a given area and don't even understand the numbers given.

                      Why don't you learn? Because you think you can figure it out yourself with nothing but opinion.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      NO, HD, I simply pointed out to you that your notion that the ratios of different radioisotopes remain constant, including the rates of change, is incorrect. I didnt make it up, and I provided a link, although you could find it out anywhere if you bothered to look.

                      Likewise, I didnt discover bio-accumulation, I simply highlighted it, and found the link to chitin while musing about Woods Hole's use of ion exchange resin to measure cesium.

                      Since plankton is chitinous it was a small step to link plankton destruction from nuke fallout to possible changes in weather, which is influenced by plankton (what to say the food chain!) .Plankton reduces the amount of solar energy absorbed by roughly 4 watts per square meter over the course of a year because of cloud seeding.

                      Thats 620,000,000,000,000 watts over the Pacific ocean, roughly 50 times the energy as mans use of coal, nuclear and all heating devices.

                      This could have contributed to the warm blob anomaly, because it was shown that weather patterns were partly responsible for the all important lack of churning of the upper ocean layer

                    • Poor code…

                      Reading comprehension problems? Sure explains allot of these crazy notions you come up with…

                      What you did was take a true statement and try to make it appear false…

                      I never said the ratios remained constant after all how could they over time and distance…

                      What I did say is there are equations to figure out what else is there at any given time by looking at Cs 134 and 137 readings/ratios…

                      The scientists would be far from qualified if they couldn't take into account decay and separation when coming up with the math for that one…

                      And unlike you, legitimate scientist qualify their studies with actual detection tests and to see if their equations are actually correct.

                      And they prove it using real science and real equipment.

                      You just can't constantly be twisting my true statements into false ones by accident every single time…

                      Ya know if you would actually use the words I type to make your rebuttal there would be no doubt, ya know cut-n-paste the actual statement and use " " around it?

                      Oh but then it would be too obvious what you are really trying to do huh…

                      Trollin, trollin, trollin, keep them trollers trollin, trollin, trollin, trollin, nuke shilllls…

                      https://youtu.be/RdR6MN2jKYs

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      HD, what you actually said was incorrect because it didnt include alterations in ratios due to biogeochemical influence. There may be nothing left of one radionuclide where other radionuclides still exist.

                      Yes, they know some of the chemical and biological accumulation and transport coefficients but applying them is not straightforward, and of course you have to apply them, which apparently they dont because Ive never seen any report about the level of strontium in baby teeth extrapolated from the cesium fallout due to fukushima.

                      In fact I did qualify my statement with a paper and you can find others, if you bothered to look. Your paper on extrapolation of Cs-135 from Cs-137 is not relevant because its an isotope of the same chemical.

                      Your statement required no twisting because it was false to begin with…here it is;

                      "The experts can tell you by looking at ratios of a few easily detectable substances, then they use time, distance and known inventory ratio formulas to determine what other of the 1000+ isotopes are there and in what quantities"

                      See? time, distance and known inventory ratio formulas are not sufficient to determine the presence of other radionuclides, you must input very complex biological and geophysical parameters.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      HD you put down others as being stupid but you are seldom correct yourself. You even have difficulty with spelling, grammar and wander in nonsensical posts containing irrelevant youtube links. Please take note of that and make reparations as your conscience deems appropriate

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      I'm not going in to what this specifick discussion is about..but in general..you have wrongfully attacked way more post's/opininion's/experimental thoughtpistes here for the sole reason they where not "vetted" enough for your taste by the upside down capitalistic planet killing system..that is century's behind understanding its own monstrosity/incompatibility with life..

                      PBPBPBPBPBPBPPPppppppppppssssss BS !!!!! and stuff like that..

                      You know..free but superior deduction skills guided by a honest interest/intuition in truth and wisdom , and love for the planet , and not being held back by fake/unsustainable loyalty to said failed system and its way's..skips a lot of time waisting running circkles around outdated dogma's and idea's with the evildoers as source..

                      Something Code is well gifted with and so are many more people here on ENE..and it used to be even more..but ofcourse not many could stick around when it got quit acidic in here… BBBBBBBBBBBBrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrssssssssss

                      As it is been said before..a bit more selfcritic/humbleness on your urge to critic would be a good step..

                      Because us thinkers here..have basically predicted/explained everything that is unfolding with superior accuraccy compared to "the other , vetted , side"

                      Not 100% ofcourse , such a thing does not exist , but More then enough to mandate quit some respect..

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      This quote belonged in the post above..

                      —-

                      ""So according to you (code) the proven true equations to both predict and show the other isotopes in that area are wrong?

                      But you figured it out sitting in a room with a 500 dollar computer?"

                      "Why don't you learn? Because you think you can figure it out yourself with nothing but opinion."
                      "

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      The seawater testing of radiation does not tell the whole story. Plankton carried radiation to the bottom. Silt may be hundreds of times higher in radiation. Whenever cesium accumulates or comes in particles, you have hot spots and this is not reflected in the tests. HD keeps referencing Woods Hole who say 'Although we have found traces of radioactive contamination from Fukushima in samples collected through our citizen-science initiative 'Our Radioactive Ocean', the concentration of cesium-137 and -134 in these samples is well below levels of concern for humans or marine life'

      But the samples man not be indicative of the system-wide effect. In order to know risk, you need to know how much, what form, how toxic. They are using risk coefficients that are about 1/6 what other scientists claim for cesium137. This risk can be elevated many times from bioaccumulation and studies in Chernobyl showed the interaction of environmental factors can boost risk again for a given radiation level many times over lab tests.

      So Woods Hole in fact doesnt know the impact of fukushima on the ocean. But a mega test has been done; four fukushima power plants exploded and subsequently whales and sea stars and numerous other creatures washed up dead. The tide pools are decimated. The devastating results prove the scientific understanding is lacking and that measurement is misleading.

      • So basically once the certified testing shows a real proven problem it's some other factor that makes it false? Really??? For real and true????

        So the currents bring it into a area and then it settles because it's heaver than water? Well golly gee who would have thunk it… But it just traveled across the ENTIRE PACIFIC!

        Thanks for that total proof of your slant and total cover up style comments disclaiming the real fact of real facts due to a preconceived opinion based on opinions you learned through some rumor or some paid spokesman.

        If the Cs are increased 6 fold in water are they still floating in the water due to waves and currents? Will they sink to the bottom eventually? Maybe but if you actually studied the evidence instead of lashing out (for some preconceived notion as to where the results came from for a personal reason to bolster your false assumption that they are somehow not certified correct) you would realize that the water was tested in the surf, you do know what the surf is right?

        That's them there waves that stir up stuff from the bottom as they crash into the continental shelf right? Ya know waves? Turbulent water?

        So since you don't like Woods Hole your brain found a way to try to discredit and/or lessen the truth of those results?

        Wake up!!!!

        And I didn't say that in a mean way, I said that in a way to shock you into enlightenment of fact instead of soap opera fiction.

        Study fact instead of opinion.

        • Cont… 6 fold is 6 fold… In water a 6 fold increase denotes a 6 fold increase of the arrival of these substances across the board. That's a 6 fold increase on the ocean floor and in the sand on the beach (where the water makes contact with the sand) and a 6 fold increase from ocean spray and a 6 fold increase in marine life too…

          Numbers? A six fold increase no matter what you test and no matter what the numbers are from the individual study in that area will eventually be, in all truth and fact, a 6 fold increase in all of it…

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          HD its hard for me to follow your tirade. The simple fact is that measured radiation levels from fallout are very low, as Woods Hole points out, much lower than any permitted safety standards. Yet, the ocean ecosystem is crashing. Thus we have two or three possibilities; Fallout from fukushima didnt cause the crash at all (Woods Hole position), or it in fact contributed to varying degrees.

          To debate this is not easy. Radiation transport and biological uptake is very complicated. But a few things stand out; toxicity coefficients used by Woods Hole are significantly less than those suggested by the European Committee on Radiation Risk. Radionuclide toxicity variation is not trivial. The radionuclide, its form and its location in/on the body can result in difference of toxicity by a factor of thousands! This invalidates the comparison to background radiation constantly made by scientists. All the more so since radiation toxicity from k-40 is not well known but tests indicate it is non mutagenic even at highly enriched levels

          Another factor is that toxicity of fallout is not indicated by water radiation levels. Bioconcentration factor for cesium is considered in the range of 50 to 100, although Woods Hole finds a much lower level of 6 to 8 in zooplankton and small fish. Radiation inventory in the sediment at the shore of fukushima is estimated at 100 Tbq while the water inventory is 15Tbq. Correspondingly, the bottom feeding fish have much higher radiation levels.

          • So a 6 x increase doesn't ring any alarm bells with you? Because you were programmed to ignore these facts and traded them for hearsay?

            And a partridge in a pear tree….

            Look out President Trump is Tweeting….

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            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              HD, why are you haranguing on a 6x increase? Because 6 x almost nothing is still almost nothing?

              Woods Hole compares fallout to radiation from background and show background is over 1000 greater. But lets calculate; Dose coefficient for cesium may be 6x higher than given by the ICRP . Bioaccumulation may be 100x. Ecological environment may boost 7x. We have a factor of not 6 but 600 or more. Conversely, studies of k-40 show it is not mutagenic even enriched by 100x or more. So take 10 bq/ m3 of cesium and multiply by a toxicity coefficient of 600 to get 6000.

              Estimating background toxicity, take the k-40 of 12,000 bq/m3 and multiply by 0.01 (reciprocal of 100, the enrichment mutagenic study) and get 120 and now…very roughly we have 10 bq/m3 of Cs137 being 50x worse than 12,000 bq/m3 of background. Of course thats not rigorous. Toxicity of k-40 is not definitively tested nor is cesium therefor the fallout, even in minute quantity could be thousands of times (indeed, perhaps infinitely) more radiologically toxic than background

              • "HD, why are you haranguing on a 6x increase? Because 6 x almost nothing is still almost nothing?"

                That one tells the tale of education and judgment over nothin but whining and fake facts already proven…

                Couldn't find your's own buttox with a flashlight and a compass?

                Real folks doing real thing and having real fun along the way are actually real and having fun?

                Recon we can still do that in a sea of depressing lies?

                Wow them there guns kill people huh…

                I'm thinkin the true statement is, guns don't kill people, people do…

                And a major influx (6X Plus) of heavy metal radioactive poisons mean nothing to a uneducated, disconnected and ego driven fool…

                That must be ken's (a stranger you've never met) fault huh…

                Reality? Not this week, why don't you massage your own ego instead of learning the actual facts you think you speak of?

                Still don't know true facts? Even after seeing and hearing them??

                Ohh and guns are baaaaaddddd…

                This one's for you…

                …you know who you are.

                https://youtu.be/-lH54eA4i8s?t=2m18s

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  Huh? Lets simplify; answer this; what was the cesium-137 level in the ocean prior to the nuclear era which started around 1940? Then we can calculate the increase, and it wont be a factor of six, I guarantee it. Your post seems to be gibberish, if you dont mind me saying

                  • Well riddle me this oh totally distracting one…

                    If a frog had wings would he bump his ass when he hopped?

                    So to simplify the actual truth…

                    In southern calafornia in the year of our lord 2015 the average Cs137 reading was 1.7 to 2.0…

                    Now in the year of our lord again…

                    The reading is? Drum roll please…

                    OVER 6?

                    That's from 1.9 (highest read) and 10 year averages were way under that .09?…

                    Dane Bramage always sings loud "I thought You Said You Were Good At This Game"…

                    Truth? Best jump all over this problem for our kids and grandkids health and profit…

                    But maybe that's too simple…

                    Hummmmmmmm….

                    Flip Wilson – George Carlin Funny News 1 of 3:

                    https://youtu.be/YHFLTb9Fp18

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Alledgedly apparent provides some data from DOE ;
                      Cs137 from bomb testing in San Francisco 2010 = 0.1 bq/kg of roadside sediment
                      Cs137 from Fukushima 6/9/2011 73.8 bq/kg
                      https://allegedlyapparent.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/radiation-fallout-maps-for-the-united-states/

                      Thats already an increase of over 700 times. And its comparing remaining bomb test fallout to the wave from Fukushima, not pre nuclear era levels. The ECRR calculates close to 60 million died from the bomb test fallout

                      The transport of fuku fallout is complicated. Airborne particles circled the earth, a lot settled on the ocean. This killed and maimed sailors abord the USS Reagan. Currents carried this along with direct runoff from the NPP and this has reached the U.S. shores. But the measurements are not indicative of the danger and damage, as explained before. Already we saw a spike of close to 30% in birth defects along the coast several years ago. Radioactive iodine was large and this will have long term effects…

                    • "Cs137 from bomb testing in San Francisco 2010 = 0.1 bq/kg of roadside sediment
                      Cs137 from Fukushima 6/9/2011 73.8 bq/kg"

                      Another small piece of data skewed beyond belief to make some fake point huh.

                      FIRST.. The 73.8 reading came from a soil sample taken in the yard of a nuclear research center.

                      Here's the true quote:

                      "One day of soil analyses right by Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, however, contained 58.6 Bq/kg of Cs-134 + 73.8 Bq/kg of Cs-137"

                      So that was a one day test in the yard of a nuclear lab? Had any leaks lately? How would you know? Are there people bringing it in and out constantly?

                      Wow one soil sample will refute 7+ years of records of a completely different test using a completely different substance and testing method?

                      Damn code I've talked to birds with more on the ball than you.

                      Or (and I expect this is the truth).

                      You will lie to promote your agenda regardless of the truth and even when the truth would suit better.

                      And then code wants to know who thinks I'm a paid shill?

                      Pretty plain who will skew the truth and outright lie, paid or not.

                      Second you can't compare a soil sample to a sea water sample. 2 completely different things with 2 completely different meanings.

                      One is a one time sediment test from the side of road next to a nuke lab, the other is a seawater sample with 7+ years of recorded data to back it up.

                      You skewing the truth again?

                      There are only 2 possible explanations

                      No real Idea or…

                    • Doesn't care and just wants to make some fake point to massage her ego…

                      A 6 fold increase tells it for those that know…

                      Trying to find some big number from a completely different test means nothing to start with…

                      And then to conveniently leave out the fact that the test was a one time thing performed right by a known radioactive site tells it all…

                      Grow up and learn the facts and stop spouting fairy tales for your ego…

                    • And again I showed a alarming fact only to be refuted with uncomparable bullshit statements leaving out the real facts and mindless arguments…

                      When it should have been a wow moment and something for you to look into and get the facts surrounding it!!!

                      Then you could contribute to helping bring awareness to this very alarming new information…

                      And that my dear (a 6X increase in seawater in the surf in California) is something to study that is actually freshly released data, that's real proven evidence, that counts and could help to save lives.

                      Or you can waste your time half quoting and misquoting unconfirmed readings for nothings sake.

                      And when faced with the choice of real research work or he said she said nothing shit to prove some fake point?

                      Which will you choose?

                      Hummmmmmmmmmmmm…

                      The choice is yours… 🙂

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      What is news to you, drivel mutt, is not necessarily news to the rest of us. I think we're all aware that plutonium is deadly and Fukushima is taking a greater toll on human and animal biology then the overlords are letting on.
                      You're going to have to continue to stroke it without my attendance. I'm turning in. I have things to do tomorrow, apparently you don't.
                      Continue to enjoy your favorite alcoholic constipation remedy. And when you strap on your diaper tonight, throw an extra one around your mouth.

                • Plutonium? The heaviest of man forged metals?

                  http://www.sciencephoto.com/media/553956/view/plutonium-atomic-structure

                  So mensa?

                  Crap (human waste and Plutonium) is to a corn flake as lead is to a feather…

                  It's fun just being……

              • Here's some unwavering crazy logic by the rumor mill crew…

                "HD, why are you haranguing on a 6x increase? Because 6 x almost nothing is still almost nothing?

                Woods Hole compares fallout to radiation from background and show background is over 1000 greater"

                First of all that's not true at all code.

                And second if you actually knew anything about testing you would know that the sea is full of minerals and salts of all types and finding man made nuclear waste among all the other contaminates in seawater is one of the hardest thing to test (on the planet) for radioisotopes relevant to a release from thousands of miles away.

                So the actual numbers are relevant, only a increase in average can tell you of the arrival of these man made poisons, no mater what you are testing (land air or water) AND no matter what you are testing with.

                So the only way to know is the average before the contamination arrived when testing air or water.

                The whole average is the cornerstone of testing.

                Everybody that is educated in nuke testing knows that.

                My gmc-320 averages 13-15 everyday, if it suddenly jumped to 50 then we would know there was fresh fallout in the air here.

                The more sensitive EPA sites average around 100 everyday in the same area.

                So the numbers are basically irrelevant in comparison, it's a sudden increase in average from the individual test that tells you fresh fallout is in the area.

                That's nuclear 101. Time you figured that simple fact…

                • So lets compare 1000 counts of potassium to 1 count of Plutonium…

                  Ingesting 1000 simple counts from potassium and other electrolytes in the ocean? Not a problem.

                  1 count of Plutonium? Your'e dead fred.

                  A no brainer for those that know testing, a great mystery to those that follow rumors without getting educated as to what the actual reads are and what they actually show…

                  So a 6X increase proves the fallout has arrived in spades and is something to be very concerned about…

                  Unless you are completely clueless as to what that kind of increase indicates.

                  • danger kitty danger kitty

                    Well, HD/drivel mutt, that was clear as mud.
                    So, you're right, it must be a no brainer.
                    (I didn't realize ingesred dose was measured in "counts".)
                    Been stuttering & sputtering long?

                    • Wasn't talking about dose, was talking about presence of the materials. We do that by count ole insulting fake genius.

                      I notice you never actually respond with a single measurement or scientific evidence of any kind.

                      Just a bunch of child like insults…

                      Oh but I'm the drivel guy?

                      Seems you are the one always driveling some kind of insult and nothing else.

                      Got any real argument against the scientific evidence I posted above? Or is it all Jr high school insults with you…

                      Kinda cool how we can go back, look at your posts and see what you do for sure huh…

                      You know that total lack of any science or legitimate questions or arguments, just a bunch of insults and drivel from you huh daaaanger kitty…

                      Root around in that litter box and then lick your paws and wipe it all over yourself son…

                      It's as big a waste of time and life as what you post here.

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      Lol, flail away, PRETENDER.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      HD; "Got any real argument against the scientific evidence I posted above?"

                      my dept of energy testing trumps your 'our radioactive ocean' water bucket bellyhoo

                      try 700 times the bomb test era cesium
                      http://enenews.com/report-massive-radiation-leak-at-fukushima-plant-extremely-high-levels-found-outside-reactor-expert-warns-of-global-threat-its-a-disaster-of-unseen-proportions-video/comment-page-4#comment-895228

                    • Noting but insults huh….

                      …how predictable.

                      What no facts or questions? Who would have thunk it, but I'm the pretender right kitty??

                      Could it be more obvious who the pretender actually is?

                      Here's a fact for you ole insulted no fact posting insulter….

                      1 pound of plutonium is enough to give every person on planet earth lung cancer…

                      And that's just one of a plethora of diseases you could expect from one pound of airborne plutonium world wide.

                      So ya gotta anything other a bunch of litterbox tripe to say about the fact I just posted?

                      Chew on that fact ole litter box rooting insult slinger.

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      Your words drivel mutt–> "Who would have thunk it, but I'm the pretender right kitty??"
                      Yep, you are the pretender… I'm glad you catch on quickly!

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      say HD, would you mind awfully much if I did nothing but respond to you with insults and name calling from now on? Saves time and bandwidth. Thanks in advance

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      Code, "curfunkled dorkle whipplefuck" is truly inspired. If it's not copyrighted, I'd love to use it. All I could come up with for the cur is "ankle biter"…

                    • Well here we are again lieing huh…

                      One that not the DOE, that's just a blog…

                      Second, you have shown no DOE records (something you could get with a simple FOIA request).

                      Just another misquoted, misstated all out lieing misadventure into the bloggin twilight zone from code shutdown…

                      Here code, misquote this one and blog it out there, give em all the uncomparable made up facts on it…

                      https://youtu.be/qXWaoSSeHUI?t=45s

                      And maybe daaaanger kitty can come up with some mindless insults for you too…

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      blogger MVD gives the source as the DOE. Does it matter if its not the original hard copy hand delivered by an armed duck billed platypus?

                      If you dont like DOE, then try the Eager Lab Assistants…nudge nudge wink wink

                      Summary: The findings of this report are the results of gamma spectroscopy tests to detect presence and estimate activity of both natural radiation and potential radioactive contaminants in soil and sand samples collected in 2015 across the United States. Uranium-238 activity was estimated 25.3 – 162.4 Bq/kg. Thorium-232 estimates of activity, if present, were approximately 15 – 90 Bq/kg, Potassium-40 ranged from 40 – 620 Bq/kg, Cesium-137 activity levels ranged from 1.6 – 13.0 Bq/kg and Cesium-134 levels ranged from approximately 1.0 – 6.6 Bq/kg with detections at other energy levels included.

                      he 2012-2013 soil study consisted of 48 samples, 22 Cs137 detections, 6 of which (or 12.5%) had Cs137 activity ranging from 4.9 – 19.1 Bq/kg with

                      The 2014 study consists of 60 samples, 30 Cs137 detections, 10 of which (or 16.7%) had Cs137 activity ranging from 5.7 – 10.2 Bq/kg

                      http://eagerlabassistants.com/soilproject2015.html

                      fallout from bomb tests increased some cancers 300%
                      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4165831/

                    • Hey code I'm the one that originally worked on getting that data out there when it was freshly released and we worked hard on spreading that real data in the office, I gave my people a hour every day to spread the link to that report/website and shout it out. That's how you know about it to start with…

                      And I do believe I posed it directly to you to try to get you to see the difference between air, seawater and soil testing…

                      But to no avail, you still don't understand the readings, methods, different detectors used or where the difference in numbers come from…

                      Very sad….

                    • "fallout from bomb tests increased some cancers 300%"

                      Yes it did code!!!! 2 points!!!!

                      Now imagine the diseases you'll get from a 600% increase in California coast seawater swimming in it?

                      Starting to see the need to look hard at that data now?

                      As in ASAP NOW????

                      Maybe you will understand the different tests and equipment always show a difference in actual numbers…

                      Air reads better than food

                      After a release the air may read BIG numbers while the food will read much lower but both would be about the same risk.

                      Soil reads better than water.

                      So soil will block readings and will always read lower than air but the risk from soil exposure is relatively low (unless you are a farmer or other worker in constant contact with it).

                      So a soil sample may read 1/2 the count of the air using the same counter, even though they both contain the same amount of isotopes.

                      Water? The hardest to count as water shields the isotopes.

                      So water may read 1/3 of the count using the same counter even though the risk is much greater in fresh water or rain water than it is in soil.

                      Seawater? The absolute hardest substance to detect man made fallout in by far. There are so many other natural isotopes that are relatively harmless or completely harmless in seawater that the count may be off the charts and overload the detector so these tests are done with a very low level detector. A sensitive detector simply can not read all the counts and overloads.

                    • Starting to get it?

                      So the Sievert is a math problem designed to equate risk with exposure and relies on the count plus the likely hood and uses some off the wall full body division and cannot be trusted…

                      1 milliSievert of what? Bananas? Cs137? Plutonium?

                      Is it distributed evenly or concentrated in a small particular place?

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sievert#Dose_examples

                      Very inaccurate and intentionally confusing.

                      Counts?

                      And a count can be 15 from a GM counter and 100 from a more sensitive counter reading the exact same thing. So both readings are the same, but you won't know it unless you know what was used to read the substance with and how sensitive it is.

                      A count is a count if you know what equipment was used to detect the count.

                      So now we have another standardized calculated measurement…

                      Becquerel

                      Remember the word calculated, that's the key to it's inaccuracy.

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becquerel#Calculation_of_radioactivity

                      For instance, on average each gram of potassium contains 0.000117 gram of 40K (all other naturally occurring isotopes are stable) that has a {\displaystyle t_{1/2}} t_{1/2} of 1.277×109 years = 4.030×1016 s,[11] and has an atomic mass of 39.964 g/mol,[12] so the amount of radioactivity associated with a gram of potassium is 30 Bq.

                      So how many of bananas would you have to eat to get to 30 Bq?

                    • Now lets look at BED, that's a good name for this calculated measurement, it's as unreal as a bed time story.

                      This example was invented to teach school children about naturally occurring and man made radiation in a way they could better understand it.

                      The BED is only meant to inform the public about the existence of very low levels of natural radioactivity within a natural food and is not a formally adopted dose measurement.

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_equivalent_dose

                      It's the same thing with natural isotopes suspended in ocean water to by the way.

                      There is no comparison to be made between the two. Ya may as well try to compare a smashed cat turd to a brownie.

                      Damn all that time wasted studying k-40 when you could be studying why a 6X increase of real man made heavy metal radiation in seawater is a alarming thing…

                      And a count is a count, no grey area whatsoever if you know the material being tested and the methods and machinery used to get the count.

                      So no calculated dose, no conversion math, no question, no guessing.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      HD you werent the first one to post Eager Lab Assistant data, but you might be the first one not to realize what it meant. It corroborates the DOE measurements and the hundreds of times increase in cesium, not 6. You never mentioned once about eager lab assistants on ENEnews, where you no doubt found out about it in the first place

                      For sure, the cesium contamination on the americas is considered 'low' by conventional standards. We can get an idea of how wrong those conventional standards are from the work of Bandazhevsky; " when the level of ingested Cesium 137 gets up to the range of 12-26 Becquerels of radiation per kilogram of the child's weight, only 38% of children still have relatively healthy hearts. The remaining 62% have damaged hearts. In addition to causing cancer, ingested radiation can wreak considerable damage to heart function and also to the performance of most other organs throughout the body."

                      Trying to get a feel for how bad fukushima fallout is by saying cesium went up 6x is a false or incorrect strategy. Look at the cesium in kelp and see how much it went up.

                      this paper finds cesium levels from Fuku nearly equal to the bomb test era, corrected for decay. The ECRR calculates the bomb tests killed +-60 million
                      Impact of Fukushima-derived radiocesium in the western North Pacific Ocean about ten months after the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant accident.
                      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25461523

                  • Well you can't teach a old well educated dog new tricks…

                    And ya can't teach utter fools anything…

                    …even when the true evidence is staring them right in the face.

                    Coufucius say…

                    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance"

                    Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/confucius

                    Here's one to watch that may help…

                    https://youtu.be/4VP5uPXm8Ws

                    …But I truly doubt it will.

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  Woods Hole compares fallout to radiation from background and show background is over 1000 greater"

                  "First of all that's not true at all code."

                  OK HD, you do the math; K40 in the ocean= 12,000 bq/m3 divided by Cs137 = 6 to 10 bq/m3

                  someone once characterized you as a bloviating bunghole. I think it was over the top. How about bellicose bugle butt? Hippie dumnut drivel mutt? Bonehead effluvium dingle dutz? Curfunkled dorkle whipplefuck?

                  • Heheh that's good code…

                    I like the way you can just make stuff up at will…

                    I guess ya gotta be good at something, you should stick with that…

                    May be a future in it for ya, may can even make a little money doing it too…

                    Unlike nuclear research test numbers from completely different tests and substances strewn together in totally false ways…

                    You can't compare air or ground samples to sea water samples and you can't compare potassium and other naturally radioactive isotopes in sea water to nuclear fallout…

                    …Just saying (for the hundredth time).

                    Learning disabled? Proven…

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            The levels of radiation in the water are not intuitive indicators of biological danger. Certain species have extraordinarily high bioconcentration factors. Seastars have a concentration factor of 30,000 for amerecium. They are known sentinals for amerecium fallout. So while cesium levels in the water column are very low, its possible that the microparticles of fukushima fuel decayed with enough radiation to affect seastars. These microparticles may comprise a significant percent of the total fallout and contain nuclear fuel in addition to the volatile fission products.

            Studies of vertical transport of fallout from chernobyl; 'The detected radioactivities, originally associated with fine airborne particles, have apparently been incorporated into much larger aggregates of predominantly biogenic material formed in the surface ocean, and transferred downward through the water column with velocities of the order of 100 m/day.'

            Is it unrelated coincidence that 99% of the seastars died following Fukushima fallout? This opens the discussion on secondary effects, which is a subject of staggering complexity.

            rotting animals produce bacterial endotoxins. Trimethylamine oxides decompose to ammonia compounds and smell like…rotting fish. The breakdown of the amino acids lysine and methionine results in cadaverine and putrescine. Hydrogen sulfide, Dimethyl disulfide and trisulfide changes the biological milieu.

            What about phosphine? Phosphine poisoning mimics domoic…

            • So say a bunch of stuff and say nothing at the same time?

              And I'm the shill?

              Let's simplify the question…

              Do you think a 6X increase of 137 with no real presents of 134 is a problem? Or even a truth?

              So 2 count em 2 (two) questions…

              Is a 6 fold increase in 137 a problem?

              It that a true reading?

              Come on you can do it… It's yes or no to each question.

              Question 1? Yes or No

              Question 2 Yes or No

              Ignorance is to eloquent words as bullshit is to steak.

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                HD, what was the Cs137 level before the nuclear era? You guessed it; zero. So to find out what the REAL increase in cesium is, what do you do? Right again, divide the current 6 bq/m by the previous 0 bq/m and you get infinity! So your factor of six is not correct. Furthermore, as explained above the water column radiation reading is not a full indicator of the true ecological load. Theres another thing…small point perhaps but "Do you think a 6X increase of 137 with no real presents of 134 is a problem?" demonstrates that 'U R a Idiot'

                • "So to find out what the REAL increase in cesium is, what do you do?"

                  You simply look at the averages over the last 10 to 20 years to find the leak (and no they were never 0 for any reason in the history of the world)…

                  Minute? Yepper… Naturally occurring? Yepper…

                  From man made sources like Fukushima or Chernobyl or nuclear testing? Not till the atom bomb project started and the ore was milled, refined and then blown up…

                  Cocaine is to the coca leaf as naturally occurring Cs are to man made nuclear metals and ceramics.

                  Wow nuke 101 stuff there…

                  Here's a good lesson for ya….

                  https://youtu.be/4L5LjjYVsHQ?t=1m54s

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    Cs137 was introduced into the environment by man and is not naturally occurring. Its half-life is too short for it to persist from natural fission sources, and on earth it is a synthetic isotope only. Nuke 101?

                    • Wow you know if you would study a while before slinging another total fiction ya may get somewhere…

                      Continue posting complete and provable falsehood and reap the false life you seem to push…

                      Bane brammage from blogging? Or brain damage and blogging…

                      So according to you there was no (as in 0) Cs137 before man made nuclear?

                      False as the seaweed you eat thinking it is good for you…

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      HD, are you ok with this; The nuclear industry increased the levels of cesium 137 by over a trillion times, not just 6?

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      HD why do you attack and attempt to denigrate the people who expose the nuclear industry and the failed scientific dogma that pervades it?

                    • Hum… No I;m not ok with that and it's another fake fact because you don't know it to be true, even if it was (and BTW it's not)…

                      When are you going to study science instead of opinion and then stop defending a nothing position because you don't really know and don't want to be wrong?

                      And believe me when I say, everybody that actually knows through real hands on research knows that's false and opinion and ego talking.

                      Wanna learn and have fun?

                      Wanna really know the real truth?

                      Wanna stop spreading fake propaganda for the sake of your own ego?

                      The do what it takes to learn and stop defending a BS position so you look good (according to you).

                      This is the problem to begin with but some will never see it simply because they are lost in the programming…

                      A 6X increase means nothing and doesn't spurr you to find out why because you ar blinded by the other sheeple? Or the TV or the blogging internet falsehoods?

                      Damn, another one bites the dust…

                      ..the blind in spirit can't see even if their eyes are 20/20.

                      How about that huh…

                      Wanna complicate stuff and blind people to simple obvious truths? Wowsers…

                      Avril Lavigne – Complicated:

                      https://youtu.be/5NPBIwQyPWE

                      Avril Lavigne – Complicated

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      OK, HD, you refuted the trillion x greater Cs137 over the pre industrial age. "No I;m not ok with that and it's another fake fact because you don't know it to be true, even if it was (and BTW it's not)…"

                      Yet you provide NO facts or figures. So dish em up or else your post (and reputation) is worthless. Thanks

                      The way I would go about it is make an assumption on the cesium137 produced from the Oklo spontaneous fission 1.7 billion years ago and use a half life calculator to estimate what the pre industrial Cs137 levels were. Indeed, maybe the increase is only millions or billions. Have a shot at it

                  • Oh and for all you AI fans out there…

                    Ai isn't true and even if it was it would only be a mechanical thing…

                    …and it could only be a mechanical thing.

                    And it could never be anything other than mechanical, even if it actually existed…

                    …and it's fake.

                    Damn Jello commercials…

                    How much gelleton does it take?

                    Just enough to get you to believe and study a fake gellyton thing.

                    And yep it's spelled wrong twice on purpose too…

                    https://youtu.be/s8QYxmpuyxg

                    Get free and study real truth…

                    …or don't.

                    That's up to you and not (in the slightest) up to me…

                    How about them apples…

                    …Ya like apples?

                    https://youtu.be/j6mreZ98_Ug

                  • danger kitty danger kitty

                    Hey drivel mutt, even you could not be so stupid as to say that cesium-137 existed before the nuclear era. You're playing stupid on purpose. It's the condition of your employment with socref. It's obvious your/his ploy is to muddy the waters, make 'hippies' look stupid & and attack those who see through the lies of Health physics. In all this sturm & drang about increases in cesium, the fact that Health physicists are using an outdated and underestimated measure of radiation's harm to biology gets lost in the kerfuffle.
                    Code is correct that you provide no facts and thus have no credibility. It's pretty obvious you can't really understand Code's discussion.
                    Your only response is to rant about fake facts, thus your credibility is right up there with the president's. About absolute zero.
                    I'm out for the night, feel free to harangue me with your juvenile bullshit. Stroke it, driveler.

                • No answer to the 2 simple questions?

                  And the score is… Homeboys 1 and visitors 0

                  OK wait a minuet, who are the visitors again?

                  Next question…

                  If you had 2 buckets how many buckets would you have?

                  That one was the ten K question of the day by the way…

                  A real question?

                  If you don't even see what you study what do you see?

                  Fluorides and spaceships?

                  woh…

                  …that's heavy as Plutonium huh.

                  REAL PLUTONIUM:

                  https://youtu.be/89UNPdNtOoE

                    • Drunk?

                      So code says "don't study woods hole data" Ken tried to downplay the real situation.

                      Then when faced with a undeniable increase in the readings Code says "6 times increase isn't anything to worry about"?

                      Really???

                      What a complete fool you are code!

                      Drunk? What about the obvious shill or complete dumbass that is you drunk or sober.

                      It could only be one of those two things.

                      This complete fool has discredited readings because some spokesman said something that downplayed the situation and then code turned right around and downplayed the situation in the face of real evidence of a problem?

                      If you told me the sun was shinning I'd have to look out the window to make sure.

                      CodeShutdown says don't listen to our best and brightest, listen to a welfare dependent outta work clarinet player that wouldn't know her own butt from a prophylactic with a full set of photo instruction on the differences between the 2.

                      So the evidence is now clear code, you are either a complete shill or a completely stupid, mostly insane and/or completely dishonest fool. And I doubt there's a real cure out there for that. Even if there was you would ignore it for some crazy reason because it suits you.

                      Disgusting bunch of BS spouting, laying on that ass all day unemployed, telling fairy tales using big words that really don't say a truthful or meaningful thing.

                      Now go get a job and some help and keep your silly lies and trolling comments to yourself…

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      HD, send this message to your keeper socref; please send somebody else; your Hippie Dog is no challenge, is tedious and an outright embarrassment who is not fooling anybody, and is not helping your pro nuke agenda

                      Nuclear fallout up 70,000% in California due to fukushima in the first months after the disaster. Will kill millions of living things. Birth defects increased nearly 30%. Woods Hole and NOAA downplay the catastrophe, double speak trolls invade social media in a failed attempt to smear citizen scientists and reporters. Meanwhile NSA tracks journalists in our full fledged Orwellian dystopia of our indoctri-nation

                      https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-07/homeland-security-track-journalists-bloggers-and-other-media-influencers

                      http://enenews.com/report-massive-radiation-leak-at-fukushima-plant-extremely-high-levels-found-outside-reactor-expert-warns-of-global-threat-its-a-disaster-of-unseen-proportions-video/comment-page-4#comment-895228

                  • danger kitty danger kitty

                    Hippie dog/drivel mutt, I told you you were stupid, you don't have to go on and keep proving it over and over again.
                    You keep misinterpreting codes point. I'm sure it's intentional, here's just one example:
                    Your words, hippie—>"Then when faced with a undeniable increase in the readings Code says "6 times increase isn't anything to worry about"?"
                    Code's point is exactly the opposite. The increase in biological harm caused by man-made nuclear fallout is much greater than Woods Hole acknowledges. You know this, hippie dog, the terms of your employment with socref require you to pretend to be stupid.
                    And how the hell do you know whether code is employed or not. You sound like you're in the 60s man, that was a typical ploy to discredit somebody, to say get a job! You've tried that crap with me too. I DO have a job. I rain logs out of the sky. I'd love to have you come and watch. It's best if you stand directly under the tree.
                    And you ARE drunk, too.

                    • Well if you are capable of reading, go and read her post where she said just that.

                      So don't pay attention to the readings because someone said it wasn't a problem and turn around and say a 6 fold increase is nothing?

                      It's obvious that code has problems (and you do to)…

                      It's also obvious code loves to argue no matter how ridiculous the statement she has to make to argue…

                      But to down play a 6 fold increase in radiation from certified results that have been kept since 2011 is absurd…

                      …and it proves beyond doubt that code is both clueless about radiation and has some real emotional problems.

                      Here's a idea why don't you and code and sadie dog converse about nonscience and fairy tales and I'll converse about the true problems with folks that are not totally messed up in the head…

                      How'd that be… Damn idiots…

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      Now, drivel mutt, you know you've been PROVEN false SO many times. Thats a known fact.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Q says HD is lacking I

              • "Ignorance is to eloquent words as bullshit is to steak"

                HD

                That'd be a great county tune huh???

                Chorus?

                If I do say so myself…

                Could be a millionaire huh…

                But wait, someone already thought of that…

                Wait a moment! Bill has shown up and has a really great idea on how to fix some of this…

                https://youtu.be/4tT3rAo2s4s?t=1m25s

                Please contact Bill at:

                BR-549 Centennial Telegenic ignorance instute care of

                Nowhere in this world, Period

                And the zip code?

                11229-abcde-5-29-even more complicated crap…

                I give it no :-)'s and ten :-('s…

                …for more non information on non informative and intentionally complicated fictitious subjects, please seek a doctor and a catscan….

                A catscan?

                Careful super secret stuff here boys and girls…

                https://youtu.be/440e6SoL6bU

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  HD demonstrates his brilliant equation 0/0=0x0=0

                  • There is also no such equation ya know…

                    0 into 0 X 0 = absoulute 0 would cure our energy problems forever…

                    There are no absolutes and there is no absolute 0

                    Wow code you are batting a 1000 today huh…

                    Enthrall us with your big words and great wisdumb oh wise one…

                    I liked it, real mind opening stuff there don't ya think?

                    Now will that truth make you happy and engaged for good things or sad and mean and blinded by the BS to do bad things and cover up the truth…

                    Scary ain't it…

                    https://youtu.be/YwZ0ZUy7P3E
                    Hehehe…

                    • Case closed…

                      Them there refugees are runnun for the american border too…

                      …Them there may even try to cross the desert to get in here huh…

                      You build a 10 foot wall and they will build a 12 foot ladder. True? Or just not complicated enough?

                      Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm….

                      ZZ Top Mud Of The Rio Grande:

                      https://youtu.be/wnJYXydsLag

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              please excuse the typo, I meant to say sea stars have a bioaccumulation factor of 30,000 for Americium-241, not Amerecium…cough sputter. Hell most Murkans spell it Murecium.

            • "The levels of radiation in the water are not intuitive indicators of biological danger. Certain species have extraordinarily high bioconcentration factors. Seastars have a concentration factor of 30,000 for amerecium"

              Yea them seastars are doing just fine huh code…

              …in fact they are all but extinct over mass areas of the pacific coast…

              Sea Star Wasting Syndrome Causing Mass Die-Off on the West Coast

              Sea Star Wasting Syndrome Causing Mass Die-Off on the West Coast: https://youtu.be/7U7HRTv4vcs

              And that was from 4 years ago…

              Here's some results of "biological danger" of radiation

              As of 2017 over 95% of all sea stars have died up and down the west coast of the US…

              Sea Star Wasting Disease Update 2017:
              https://youtu.be/ISY3Ebeq5jk

              Must be potassium huh code…

              But wait natural isotopes have been in those waters for millennia so that can't be it….

              Recon they ate too many bananas? Nope that ain't it…

              Hey what about if a nuclear reactor (ok 3 of them and a spent fuel pool) blew up and spewed man made isotopes into the air and they settled on the pacific ocean waters and that almost doubled the readings of Cs137 in those areas from…

              0.9 ± 0.2Bq/m3

              to

              1.8 ± 0.2Bq/m3 of Cs137 on the west coast?

              No problem huh code as it's such a small number?

              You have no idea (and it's obvious) what those numbers mean…

              If you would stop wasting time comparing apples to bananas to phantom k-40 you may would have…

      • Code, oh I think Woodshole knows pretty much exactly what is going on, as there tests are so nicely designed to not test and study the right stuff.

        I think i know why the 2016 detailed survey of Alaska radiation in marine life and lichens and stuff has still not been published. I have been emailing them for over a year.

        Someone suggested a FOIA request, but I just have no time to spend at this time. here is the 2011 report and my analysis.

        http://www.nukepro.net/2018/03/alaska-radiation-survey-from-2016.html

  • curly

    It's easy to get discouraged, even though we are really close to reaching critical mass. Critical mass extinction that is. Keep up the good fight and may all the poisons we individually and collectively create continue, as usual, to have little or no effect on the environment.

    • curly, anti-point about collectively…Indeed each poison, even by the EPA charts, below its scientifically proven maximum level, may have little chance of morbidity or fatality, but when 100's attack your body weekly, the synergistic effect is being seen in our health statistics.

      This synergistic concept is not a part of any discussed or peer reviewed studies. And therein lies the crux of the matter. And what we need to communicate to the masses, Alex Jones or whatever it takes. But few know this truth. Many know to do whatever they can to avoid future health hazards, live well, supplements, filtration. But few of them understand that its all of the poisons taking a shot at us all at once, and sometimes one of them lands a good hit, leaving amply opportunity for some others to wreak their havock.

      • If you listen to the threshold models you just won't see it coming…

        The whole threshold model is akin to a threshold for rat poison…

        You may could eat a less than lethal dose of rat poison once without any effects…

        But if you ate it everyday that less than lethal dose model doesn't compute…

        Divers in nuke plants drop dead from heart attacks well above the average due to Cesium exposure…

        …You would expect cancer but the repeated exposure kills them from cardiovascular disease long before most develop debilitating cancer symptoms…

        And the exposure daily to all of us from releases throws the threshold model out the window like a baby with the bathwater.

        Add to that the flood of untested and impure drugs that people are pushing as detox cures and you see the cocktail that kills in mass…

        Edta? Will strip your body of many minerals and place you in a more vulnerable position if you are still being exposed, and we all are every day to some extent.

        Nascent iodine? A definite no no for so many reasons I can't type them all in one post…

        Sea weed? Well I hope that one speaks for itself…

        And Bentonite Clay upsets your intestinal flora and is made from a mixture of volcanic ash and sea mud.

        So it's a double whammy, the only thing I've seen that actually works is organic vegetable juicing with coffee enemas…

        Threshold? It's like water flowing over a rock… Just look at the grand canyon…

  • curly

    If things don't work out, we can always blame liberal ideologies. It's a win win.

    • But if we become scientific and focus on that type of self education instead of he said she said opinion we can bring these life threatening problems to the forefront for all to see regardless of political affiliation or opinion.

      That would create a united effort to help in stopping this disaster before it gets to the tipping point.

      And even if that's not possible, at least we (with the support of all parties and affiliations) can take measures to prolong life on earth…

      As it stands the bitchfest continues and does nothing to actually help to stop this totally unnecessary ELE event.

      Educate yourselves and spend time studying the things that count…

      …or we will all go down bitching instead of helping.

      What was the basketball score again?

      What about the poison score in the air, water and food?

      A nobrainer as to what scores are actually important.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Curly! Chuckles! 🙂

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Curly! Chuckles! 🙂

  • Jebus compiled a bunch of insect links.

    http://www.nukepro.net/2017/10/massive-collapse-of-insect-populations.html

    When the bottom of the food chain looks sketchy, what happens when you kick out the legs of a chair?

  • I got the flu shot, first time. I got the flu, first time in 8 year. others had this flu for weeks and longer.

    With a strong immune system bolstered by regular pro-biotics, I was able to kick the flu part in 2 days, although the cough and respiratory effects dangled for weeks but they weren't debilitating.

    http://www.nukepro.net/2018/03/radiation-decreases-immune-systems-post.html

  • Just for fun….

    They Live – I've got one that can see…

    https://youtu.be/kBY6pF42I-c

    Dang ufo's and flying saucers or soap opera rumors taking up your'e time again??

    https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/publications/how-to-mental-health

    Or we can live happy in truth?

    https://youtu.be/gBsQ2By8Lys

    Gotta see to be able to see, don't put the cart before the horse…

  • Mack Mack

    Japan's recent earthquake:

    "Video highlights damage after a 6.1-magnitude earthquake struck Japan, cracking streets, cutting power to homes and injuring five people"

    https://twitter.com/ABC/status/983599478383968256

    Japan's proclivity to earthquakes is a legitimate reason why Japan should not have nuclear power plants.

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "An estimated 218.2 billion yen ($2.06 billion) of taxpayers’ money will be needed to cover the interest on loans extended to Tokyo Electric Power Co. to deal with the Fukushima nuclear disaster.

    The Board of Audit said TEPCO will require a maximum of 34 years to pay off loans totaling 13.5 trillion yen that were provided by financial institutions through the government.

    The prediction was made based on an interest rate of 0.1 percent, but the rate could rise.

    “The financial burden might increase,” a Board of Audit official said."
    http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201804100003.html

  • If you have an object that you suspect of contamination with man-made radiation…..

    Send it to Peter Daley, he will run a gamma spec on it for free. Check laws on shipping stuff to Australia

    http://sccc.org.au/contact-us

    • "If you have an object that you suspect of contamination with man-made radiation…..

      Send it to Peter Daley, he will run a gamma spec on it for free. Check laws on shipping stuff to Australia

      http://sccc.org.au/contact-us"

      Great one stock…

      But you really don't have to send it that far (although a second opinion never hurts)…

      http://www.radtest4u.com

      Best thing to do is send a old car filter!!!!

      It's small and easy to put in a padded envelope, Just be VERY careful when handling it!!!

      Also a small air purifier filter is a good one and a small piece of a house air filter too but it's a more dangerous thing to handle as you will have to cut a small piece to get it into a envelope.

      Bagless vacuum hepa filter is also a great one to send.

      I don't use bagless vacuums anymore, to much potential exposure…

      And always place em in a plastic bag, or ya may (if contaminated enough) set off the rad detectors in the mail room.

  • NWO wants your guns

    How implausible is this story?

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/12/us/parkland-teacher-gun-trnd/index.html

    A teacher at the Parkland, Florida, high school where 17 students and teachers were shot to death was arrested for allegedly leaving a loaded gun in a public bathroom.
    A homeless man is accused of picking it up and firing it.

    And then the accompanying video is 3 female students, emphasizing that "we are children" and we all had a sleepover last night, but we couldn't sleep, but when i woke up I saw the other girl not sleeping, and we couldn't sleep because we were scared that someone would kill us with a GUN.

    The 3 girls that appear in this interview, had a sleepover the prior night. hmmmmmmmm

  • HippieDog sayeth
    "Hey code I'm the one that originally worked on getting that data out there when it was freshly released and we worked hard on spreading that real data in the office, I gave my people a hour every day to spread the link to that report/website and shout it out. That's how you know about it to start with…"

    lol how sad is that, HippieDog runs a troll farm, but points everyone to Woodshole.

  • Here's a challenge for all you great radiation expert investigators…

    What's the isotope relation percentages (each listed below) on the west coast based on fukushima inventory and decay time in air and seawater using the woods hole reading of…

    CS178 , San Luis Obispo #10
    Sample Date: Feb 02, 2018 12:00
    Depth: surf (m)
    Temperature: 14.45 °C
    Cs134: below detection
    Cs137: 6.8 ± 0.2Bq/m3

    So if Cs137: 6.8 ± 0.2Bq/m3 what would Cs135 read?

    What about AM-241

    And Strontium?

    And I-129?

    I'll give you a hint…

    You have to look at the isotopes (and volumes) released locally right after the accident…

    Find the Cs reads (134 and 137), calculate the decay rates of the above isotopes with the percentages released at origin into the air (including travel time) and in the ocean waters (including travel time)…

    So if you can study that instead of bashing Trump and studying bananas or space men sightings you may just figure it out and you may even get the answers.

    Come on all you radiation math heads out there… You can do it!!!

    • The amount of radioactive isotopes released at Fukushima were grossly under-reported at the time of the accident. The estimates of what was released vary greatly.

      The cores are now underground and are still fissioning. Where has there been a China Syndrome in the past? Why can possibly measure the radioactive soup a mile below the surface of the earth? If it were even possible, it would be much to lethal to attempt. The radiation levels are so great that it kills off all the robots. And the amounts of radioactivity will INCREASE the next 250,000 years.

      • Because the decay rate of each isotope is different, the ratios will be constantly changing.

        I didn't actually see your sources for your claims that the ratios are always the same.

        How do you answer that isotopes found in Europe were identified as from Fukushima and not from any other locality or nuclear fissioning.

        Also a MOX fuel accident is different from previous accidents which were not from MOX fuel.

        The Japanese government has denied that there was MOX fuel in Unit 4 or that there was a criticality there. With so much cover-up, the mathematics cannot be certain.

        There was an actual report done of radioactive fish found off the West Coast. The reasons so much testing is done is that that is the only way to determine the particular ratio in a given sample. Also as Buessler has stated, there are terrible isotopes in the ocean from nuclear testing in the past. The testing for the particular isotope that is presently done in the ocean is because its much shorter life means it came from Fuushima and not from earlier accidents. They are not testing how horrible the ocean is, only the measurement of what is coming from Fukushima to study the currents and the movement of that particular isotope. No one is going to be speculating on how much Strontium is in the ocean on the West Coast from some theoretical mathematical ratio.

        Do you have a source that states that in the ocean all the isotopes move at the same rate through the ocean or in fish, etc.?

          • Also, the isotopes found in the ocean includes some that traveled in the air by the wind. The radioactive isotopes in the air circled the globe every 40 days and came down in different places at different times.

            And there is so much contamination of the earth since the 1930s and 1940s that there is no way that there is a set determined ratio in any tiny locality whether on the earth or in the ocean. In the ocean, for example the blue fin tuna carried radioactive isotopes from Japan to California. Where that fish died the ratio of isotopes at the time of death in that locality will be different than in another locality of the ocean.

            • And the west coast of north america is not a localized or small area.

              And I'm talking about sea water not the animals in the sea water, that's a totally different thing.

              It's simple and it's a one thing at a time exercise…

              What are the readings from the 4 different isotopes contained in the sea water around that reading and on the west coast in general.

              It's a formula that's been used by scientists since the 60's and proven through testing of all these isotopes to see if they were correct…

              And they were correct with such accuracy they simply only need to test for a few isotopes to determine what else is present.

              So the question is, does anybody here know how to do that?

              It's a mathematical formula.

              So see if you can figure it out Doc…..

            • As a side note:

              "And there is so much contamination of the earth since the 1930s and 1940s that there is no way that there is a set determined ratio in any tiny locality whether on the earth or in the ocean"

              Yes we do and we know this by having the history of readings over decades….

              How do you think we know when there is a new release and where it came from?

              Records of past readings….

              So when you see a increase you know it's a fresh release and with a gamma spec analysis for even one lab you can determine where it came from…

              …after that initial reading you can simply use the Cs reads to determine where it traveled and what other isotopes are present…

              Then figure decay times and you know what the amounts are for the isotopes as well.

              So find the information, get the calculator out and a pencil and notebook and you can scratch out most of the important ones in accurate ratios and amounts.

              First one that can post it gets the "Damn you really know what you are doing award" and you will have the ability to discern facts from fictions for the rest of your life…

              Wow and all it takes is a computer, research abilities and some math skills…

            • GOM GOM

              Anne

              "And there is so much contamination of the earth since the 1930s and 1940s that there is no way that there is a set determined ratio in any tiny locality whether on the earth or in the ocean".

              The ultimate reality check.

              Kudos to you..in spades.

              • “Caption: First fission experiments. This museum display ('Otto Hahn's workbench') brings together equipment used by German chemist Otto Hahn in the first nuclear fission experiments. This work, with Lise Meitner and Fritz Strassmann from 1934 to 1938 at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Chemistry in Berlin, led to him being awarded the 1944 Nobel Prize in Chemistry. The equipment includes batteries (Pertrix), amplifiers (three, one between batteries), automatic counters (lower left and centre), Geiger-Muller tubes (across bottom), and a paraffin block (circular, upper right) containing a neutron source (round) and uranium (rectangular).”
                http://www.sciencephoto.com/media/441675/view/first-fission-experiments-1930s

          • Now doc… That's scary but a hot particle is not a fuel fragment…

            It's a small particle and yes these hot particles have circled the earth.

            But It's not a fuel fragment (I'll bet there's a ton of fuel fragments up to a hundred miles off the coast of japan from the #3 explosion)…

            What they are showing is blown up and pulverized fuel so small it would would make a grain of sand look like a boulder.

            So yes it's nuclear fuel but no it's not a fuel fragment.

            Wanna see what a fuel fragment looks like and what the readings are from a real fuel fragment? I'll start it at the end so you can see the actual fragment (and readings) quickly but you should really watch the whole video when you get a chance.

            Real nuclear prospecting at it's finest.

            Finding a fragment of chernobyl's nuclear reactor fuel (in nature):

            https://youtu.be/ejZyDvtX85Y?t=6m38s

        • But that's not what I said…

          I said (I thought it was simple to understand) To find out what the current ratios are of each one (they will ALL be different) you must study the decay time, the travel time to the west coast (water and air) and then calculate how much of each substance is traveling along side the Cs137.

          Where there is Cs 137 there are allot of other isotopes as well, each will be a different amount but we know whats there and in what amounts simply by the 137 readings.

          No 2 will be in the same amount or ratio but by studying the initial amounts released and then compairing them to the Cs 137 reads on the west coast can tell you a hundred other isotopes are present and in what amount… And each isotope present on the west coast today will be in a different amount.

          So if you see a real Cs137 reading you can extrapolate what else is there and what the individual readings would be for each isotope.

          The point is that's why they only generally take readings of Cesium in many cases, they already know from 2 isotopes of cesium what else is present.

          And yea 3 rocks in the ground, a fully burnt spent fuel pool and no way to control the water they are using to shield the area by pouring it in the holes (don't let em fool ya with the "that water is for cooling" crap) it's for shielding, those rocks are already under water. And that makes for one gigantic never before seen problem…

          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            Nicely done! 🙂

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              nicely done perhaps but incorrect

              "No 2 will be in the same amount or ratio "

              That much of the fallout is in the form of fuel and containment alloy microparticles confounds the analysis. It isnt known or admitted how much fuel from the spent fuel pools comprises the fallout; for example isotope ratios and release rates confirm that a lot of the fallout came from SFP unit 4, which is categorically denied.

              Bioaccumulation compartmentalizes and alters the distribution of different radionuclides changing their ratios, as I explained somewhere above. Thus the measurement of the cesium in the top water column is not an intuitive or reliable indicator of deposition of cesium in silt, seaweed or other radionuclides with different absorption coefficients in mineral and biota ocean particles.

              Some idea of the ratio of different radionuclides released from fukushima can be seen here
              Chris Busby release estimates of many different radionuclides on page 5

              http://www.llrc.org/llrc/fukushima/subtopic/fukuworstcase.pdf

        • "How do you answer that isotopes found in Europe were identified as from Fukushima and not from any other locality or nuclear fissioning."

          That's simple, they did a gamma spec on it and looked at the different isotopes in the particle… Knowing what the source inventory was and how many fission cycles it had gone through (from the inventory and age in the reactor and the type of reactor) before ejection. It was easy for them to determine it's origin.

          Reactors have a unique signature like a fingerprint on a human. Each one is unique, each type of reactor is unique in how it fissions.

          And that is how you can know what other isotopes are present from that release by looking at one or 2 isotope readings. WE know where it came from, we know when it was released, we know what the fuel was and we know how long it was in the reactor before it blew.

          You are well on your way to figuring out the question of what other isotopes are present in the pacific!!!!

          Great one doc…

          • GOM GOM

            "Reactors have a unique signature like a fingerprint on a human. Each one is unique, each type of reactor is unique in how it fissions".

            Everything is quantifiable? As related to fission? Hmmm..

  • GOM GOM

    12 Years Ago, Scientist Plotted To Kill Us Off..

    To Save the Planet, Kill 90 Percent of People Off, Says UT Ecologist

    At first, I thought someone was making a really stupid April Fool's joke, but apparently it is true that the Texas Distinguished Scientist of 2006, University of Texas ecologist Eric Pianka told a meeting of the Texas Academy of Science that 90 percent of his fellow human beings must die in order to save the planet.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/reason.com/blog/2006/04/03/to-save-the-planet-kill-90-per/amp

  • GOM GOM

    2012- WASHINGTON

    .."or there can be some sort of government-mandated liquidation program—but either way, people have to start dying".

    Saying there's no way around it at this point, a coalition of scientists announced Thursday that one-third of the world population must die to prevent wide-scale depletion of the planet's resources—and that humankind needs to figure out immediately how it wants to go about killing off more than 2 billion members of its species.

    Scientists: 'Look, One-Third Of The Human Race Has To Die For Civilization To Be Sustainable, So How Do We Want To Do This?'

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theonion.com/scientists-look-one-third-of-the-human-race-has-to-di-1819573235/amp

  • GOM GOM

    8/17 – BLOOMBERG

    Americans Are Dying Younger, Saving Corporations Billions
    Life expectancy gains have stalled. The grim silver lining? Lower pension cost

    America’s troubling death trends.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2017-08-08/americans-are-dying-younger-saving-corporations-billions

  • SadieDog

    “BOISE, Idaho (AP) — A barrel containing radioactive sludge ruptured at an Idaho nuclear facility, federal officials said Thursday, resulting in no injuries and no risk to the public but possibly slowing progress in shipping waste out of the state.

    The U.S. Department of Energy said the 55-gallon (208-liter) barrel ruptured late Wednesday at the 890-square-mile (2,305-square-kilometer) site that includes the Idaho National Laboratory, one of the nation's top federal nuclear research labs.

    The rupture triggered a fire alarm, and three Idaho National Laboratory firefighters extinguished the smoldering barrel and pulled it away from a dozen other barrels nearby.”

    https://apnews.com/amp/c7b4380362dd4d1995788ce8727dc072

  • SadieDog

    “ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — Pete Domenici and three colleagues have introduced a bill attempting, once again, to deal with the nuclear waste problem in a way that bypasses the intractable Yucca Mountain problem.

    One of the central problems in the way of a "nuclear renaissance" is the persistent skepticism over the lack of a disposal pathway for waste. Recognizing that, Domenici and others have been pushing for "reprocessing" – extracting usable nuclear materials from reactor waste, reducing the amount headed for Yucca Mountain and expanding the amount of usable reactor fuel available. The news release sent out by Domenici persists in a new, greener naming convention: it's "recycling", not "reprocessing." The green language also calls the new approach "sustainable."

    https://www.abqjournal.com/2448/domenici-introduces-nuclear-bill.html?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=more%20link&utm_campaign=amp

  • DUDe DUDe

    Hanford’s Toxic Avengers: Department of Energy Suppresses Deadly Nuclear-Cleanup Flaws

    Your tax dollars are on the line. The DOE is set to extend a contract to Washington River Protection Solutions (WRPS) for another year at the Hanford Nuclear Site, despite numerous allegations of misconduct since the company won the initial contract for $7.1 billion in 2008. Below is an investigative report that appeared in Seattle Weekly in 2012 on the suppression of whistleblowers by the DOE, Bechtel, URS and WRPS at North America’s most toxic site. – JF

    ***

    Once home to the nation’s largest plutonium-making facility, Hanford, Washington, is now one of the most toxic nuclear-waste sites in the world. The U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) is currently spending $2 billion a year to clean up the 586-square-mile reservation. However, not all is well on Washington’s dusty southeastern edge: Whistle-blowers are stepping forward, claiming that taxpayer money is being spent recklessly on a project riddled with potentially deadly design defects.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/04/13/hanfords-toxic-avengers-department-of-energy-suppresses-deadly-nuclear-cleanup-flaws/

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "The truth is that the effects of the incident at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant will be felt by every living being on the planet for years to come, and it doesn’t matter if you live down the street from the plant or you’re a fish swimming in the ocean thousands of miles away. The true extent of the damage from this devastating incident is something that many people fail to fully grasp." http://fukushima.news/2018-02-09-industrial-disaster-public-may-never-know-full-extent-of-the-damage-from-fukushima.html

  • DUDe DUDe

    Seven cancers from that source and a few more from this and that and GMO etc will also make 100% in the end..what percentage of the population in general is still 100% healthy ?
    —-

    Nuclear Keeps on Polluting, Long After Shutdown

    Last month, the La Crosse Boiling Water Reactor, on the banks of the Mississippi River in Wisconsin, was found to be leaking radioactive tritium (the radioactive form of hydrogen) into the groundwater.

    Again, clean, safe, cheap nuclear power comes to the aid of a hungry nation.

    The La Crosse Tribune reported on March 14 that the company LaCrosseSolutions (a subsidiary of Utah-based EnergySolutions) reported a reading of 24,200 “picocurie”-per-liter in water taken from a monitoring well on Feb. 1. The US Environmental Protection Agency allows up to 20,000 picocuries-per-liter tritium in drinking water.

    The EPA estimates that seven of 200,000 people who drink such water would develop cancer. So the nuclear industry has somehow earned a government license to kill, if you will. But, hey, 24,200 picocuries per-liter isn’t that much over the allowable cancer rate.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/04/16/nuclear-keeps-on-polluting-long-after-shutdown/

  • https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/8d76ih/fukushima_radiation_in_hawaii_soil_tested_at_over/

    Recent thread on fukushima today.
    Great opportunity for our experts to coynter the controlled information/ narrative.
    Hands on deck needed:)

    Take care all!
    Tacomagroove-

  • Mila de Mier — Anti GMO Activist — Travels to DC to Present 200,000 Signature Petition — Dies is DC Pool The Night Before

    I am still upset about this lovely lady dying the night before petition presentation in DC. Checked her fakebook page, its still up, and twitter still up.

    Husband indicates that she had seizures in the past. But no new news on this one.

    http://www.nukepro.net/2018/04/mila-de-mier-anti-gmo-activist-travels.html

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Japan ‘covering up’ Fukushima nuclear danger-zone radiation levels and blackmailing evacuees to return to radiated areas swarming with radioactive pigs and monkeys" Pictures https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6092789/fukishima-cover-up-radiation-japan-campaigners-nuclear-residents-scared/amp/

  • 8 sieverts hr is lethal just walking past it .I covered numerous time in my live shows steam coming from the ground in 6 places at Fukushima was over 10 sieverts hr which explains why Harvard Yale Stanford Oxford MIT etc etc University's nuke academics have never and will never be walking or reporting from Fukushima yea .

    By the way I have been on the B.C. Canada ocean you know the Canada across from Japan coast line on a 7 month Fukushima nuclear fallout marine species count sailing expedition . At sea for the last 20 days I have covering 400 mile so far . This is my first update and its exclusive for enenews readers . Its like moon rocks out here instead of the normal 7000 species the coast is naked and silent .

    I have only seen only 1 starfish and less than 600 birds over the last 3 weeks but don,t worry I have 6 months to go i,m sure we will find another star fish out here somewhere . I am waiting for a major storm to pass by right now so i,m lucky enough to post this , it will be weeks before I get another chance . Hugs for everyone ( excluding monstrous despicable cowardly pro nuke trolls of course . :O) sincerely yours Dana Durnford

  • SadieDog

    “In the process of trying to cool down the overheating reactors, officials in Japan dumped sea water and reaction-slowing boric acid into the reactor cores. The resulting chemical reaction—chloride ions in salt water combining with fast-moving neutrons from the reactor—produced a form of radioactive sulfur. Meanwhile, scientists at the University of California, San Diego, were already measuring sulfur particles in the air as part of climate research. Days after the crisis began, their instruments picked up the radioactive sulfur that had crossed the ocean.”

    https://boingboing.net/2011/08/15/what-sulfur-particles-in-california-can-tell-us-about-fukushima.html/amp

  • Civil unrest in central america

    Globalist love this stuff too

    Human Rights Violations in Nicaragua due to the oppression and rule of Dictatorship Daniel Ortega and Rosario Murillo

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/human-rights-violations-nicaragua-due-oppression-and-rule-dictatorship-daniel-ortega-and-rosario-murillo

  • If Fukushima Has Decimated The Ocean — Why Hasn't the Price of Fish Gone Up

    http://www.nukepro.net/2018/04/if-fukushima-has-decimated-ocean-why.html

    Its a valid point, one worthy of a deep dive.

    I took a stab at it the other week, with a report on farmed fish. And please, before you buy into the "marketing plan" for Tilipia, in which the marketing genious wanted to take a shit water garbage fish and market it "exotic asian", please study it, there is a basic "meat" issue that make Tilipia really bad.

    Will you pay more for "wild" fish? You should if you want to eat fish at all.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Fukushima and the tsunami washout would have much less effect upon a thriving Ocean, with all of it's circles intact.

    But here we are…

    For 50 Years, Deep-Water Trawls Likely Caught More Fish Than Anyone Thought

    http://www.kpbs.org/news/2018/apr/23/for-50-years-deep-water-trawls-likely-caught-more/

  • Jebus Jebus

    Welcome, to the ministries…

    The Man Swimming Across the Pacific Ocean for Science

    “It’s a unique setup for scientists – to collect very high-definition data across the ocean, which has not been done before,” said Paul Lecomte.

    https://www.newsdeeply.com/oceans/articles/2018/04/23/the-man-swimming-across-the-pacific-ocean-for-science

  • SadieDog

    “All of humanity currently risks exposure to toxic chemicals all over creation in a similar vein to the Mad Hatter of Alice in Wonderland fame. And, maybe, as a result, goin’ kinda looney and getting horribly, dreadfully sick!

    As soon as the Spring of 2018, the EPA will decide whether to risk the slaughter of birds and bees and pollinators that serve critical functions in crop production, as well as goosing-up the likelihood of chronic illnesses of citizens. The issue behind this flirtation with disease, sickness, pain, and death is regulation, or lack thereof, of chemical pesticides.

    Meanwhile on a grand scale, and following decades of superfluity, the planet gurgles, drowning in a massive saturation of chemicals found far and wide, as high as Mt. Everest (arsenic and cadmium) as deep as PCB-infested squid in the Mariana Trench, glowing bright shiny toxicity.

    This article discusses only a tiny smattering of chemical madness that haunts the world yet a subject of thousands of articles of research discussing potential dangers to health of which the public is dreadfully unaware.”

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/04/23/chemical-madness/

  • Kids/men killing themselves for "shoes", are you telling me that is not consumerism and a fucked up society.

    trying to place the blame 98% on "capitalism" and downplaying the waste, the trash created, the debt slavery in order to buy more shit…. is misguided.

    Social media is basically a way to sell more shit, and to spy on us, understand our habits, understand what will make the "sale" and what won't.

    People wouldn't need half the usury they get sucked into if a mass marketing campaign to them to buy shit they really don't need. I so see many "idiots" driving $60k trucks and they really can't even drive, much less haul more than a bag or 5 of groceries of processed foods.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      stock, is your opinion here well considered?

      "trying to place the blame 98% on "capitalism" and downplaying the waste, the trash created, the debt slavery in order to buy more shit…. is misguided."

      Capitalism IS the cause of debt slavery, marketing campaigns, mass trends, the throw away culture. I dont think thats debated…those are the known negatives of the system, widely acknowledged.

      People cant buy too much more than they can afford. What products or services are part of this consumerism? You mention cars and shoes. The insanity of branding and crazy materialism is part of the engine of consumerism and of course capitalism, but still thats not where most money is spent. The ocean isnt filled with shoes because people buy and throw away shoes needlessly.

      Charts vary but this gives an idea of where we spend our money
      https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/posts/Screen%20Shot%202013-09-16%20at%204.00.40%20PM.png

      housing is basically a scam for bankers and real estate power players. One of the main reasons people work so hard…to carry those guys on your back.

      Insurance is largely a scam. Its ugly that they think they can fool anybody with co pays, deductibles and 'caring'. Everybody ends up paying doctors and insurance companies, the big thieving duopoly.

      transportation…gotta have it. We wont talk about trains and subways… Cars suffer poor design and lack of efficiency compared to what they could be, yet the value is a…

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        value of cars is a testament to manufacturing efficiency. If this was applied without profit motives, car design would change, costs would go down. You can see the $5,000 car in India. https://www.cardekho.com/new-cars+1-lakh-5-lakh. An example of what prices could be without the capitalist force of 'willingness to buy'

        So there is some 5% of earnings going into entertainment, or 7% if you include clothes, which I personally dont think of as a consumerism problem. And is this the Big Unsolvable Problem of society? Its clear to me that it is NOT the problem.

        The problem of pollution, wage slavery, ecological destruction, hegemony and destabilization of countries, the police state, is not really consumerism, its more related to over population and the capitalist exploitation ideology. People are the 'market' for corporations and oligarchs. Laws enforce and protect those big financial interests. To the point where its illegal to have plant based natural pain relievers, mood alterations and curative herbs (see codex), buy raw milk, collect rainwater. This is the true insanity and people buy it up as normal
        https://wholenewmom.com/reaching-out/fda-to-ban-natural-supplements-in-us/

        https://www.marketingcharts.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/LEK-Annual-Retail-Spend-by-Millennial-Consumer-Segment-Aug2017.png

        • curly

          Ya, but the constitution, and the founding fathers, and Ronald Reagan, and freedom, and the American dream and Old Glory.

        • I want my MTV!!!

          A great explanation of consumerism.

          Is not "want" ego?

          In the real world "needs" are free. Wants are taxed to the max. But sadly is place is just a mock-up of what is real. You know, that parallel universe we visit in our dreams.

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            The ape-man species represents seven billion liters of hydrocholic acid in which we dissolved the other species on the way to the sewer. First we chew them with teeth, thats how we consume them. Thats consumerism. We consumed the trees…denuded half the world. We consumed each other by labor. Isnt it true that the slaves lives were consumed? The rich consume the wealth of the masses who are their wage slaves. We consumed the worlds oil…who knows what effect taking that lubrication, mass and richness out of the ground will do, not to mention the toxins released. If we didnt consume the oil, the trees would all be gone, and the earth would be a dead zone

            Who cares about plastic toys? its a small thing by comparison, and they will be made biodegradable.

            • Yummy Yummy I've got Earth in my tummy. At least I am biodegradable.

              If you take an orange and stick it with a syringe and draw out the juice, what happens? It shrinks, it gets sucked dry. Just like Oklahoma, Texas, wherever there is oil. Pumping nuke waste back in to balance the load makes for one weirdo world. Thus I have Toxic Tummy Syndrome.

              • DUDe DUDe

                Conflict Over the Future of the Planet

                On this Earth Day, it is difficult to look at the state of the planet and the current political leadership and see much hope. In “Junk Planet”, Robert Burrowes writes a comprehensive description of the degradation of the atmosphere, oceans, waterways, groundwater, and soil as well as the modern pollution of antibiotic waste, genetic engineering, nanowaste, space junk, military waste and nuclear, a description of a planet degraded by pollution impacting our bodies and health as well as the planet’s future.

                Burrowes includes another form of waste, junk information, that denies reality, e.g. climate change, the dangers of extreme energy extraction and food polluted by genetic engineering, pesticides, and depleted soils. This false reporting results in policies that create a risk of ecosystem collapse.

                Political and economic elites want people to believe these problems do not exist. Those in power seek to protect profits from dirty energy rather than transition to 100 percent clean energy. They seek to protect agribusiness food, pesticides, and genetically modified foods rather than transform food to organic, locally grown foods using regenerative agriculture. They deny the reality of environmental racism rather than correct decades of racism and provide reparations. They seek to put profits ahead of the health and necessities of people as well as ahead of protecting and restoring the planet.

                Despite this, a growing portion of…

                • DUDe DUDe

                  Despite this, a growing portion of the public understands these realities and is taking action to challenge the system. People know, for example, as activist Steven Norris writes, that they should be concerned about the impact of carbon infrastructure on their communities and the planet.

                  Last week, David Buckel, a nationally known advocate for gay rights and the environment, died in a self-immolation suicide as a wake-up call to save the planet. He wrote in a note, “Pollution ravages our planet, oozing inhabitability via air, soil, water and weather. Most humans on the planet now breathe air made unhealthy by fossil fuels, and many die early deaths as a result – my early death by fossil fuel reflects what we are doing to ourselves.”

                  "The environmental crisis and the mishandling of climate change are issues that are going to make the 2020s a decade of transformational change. In order for people to create transformative changes, we need a well-educated activist community."

                  https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/04/23/conflict-over-the-future-of-the-planet/

                  • I wish I could have just told him "its the sun stupid", but he had his head up his arse
                    ——————————————-
                    my early death by fossil fuel reflects what we are doing to ourselves.”

                    "The environmental crisis and the mishandling of climate change are issues that are going to make the 2020s a decade of transformational change. In order for people to create transformative changes, we need a well-educated activist community."
                    —————————- not a dead, head up your arse community

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      protecting the environment from corporate pollution is not the same as the focus on Co2.

                      While C02 may not be a problem…certainly wouldnt be if we hadnt destroyed the trees and plankton…the same is not true for the toxic mess of chemicals that corporations of all kinds want to spill everywhere.

                      Trumps roll back of environmental protection is hideous and theres no reason to dream he is backing out of Co2 because he knows anything about climate

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      "not a dead, head up your arse community"

                      ..kochroaches ass is better ?

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      Eight Years After BP Oil Spill, Sick Cleanup Workers Still Waiting for Day in Court

                      On the eighth anniversary of the BP oil spill, Retired Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré stood in front of the New Orleans Federal Court House and called "bullshit" on the court's handling of claims made by those who participated in the cleanup efforts.

                      Thousands of workers BP hired to clean up the spill that polluted the Gulf of Mexico in 2010 have claimed exposure to oil and the dispersant has made them sick and still have not had their day in court. "It's a crying damn shame we've allowed this in America," Honoré said.

                      "Guess who don't have their life back? The people who did the cleanup, the people who have to go home and get public assistance to stay alive, and it's had an impact on their family," Honoré said on April 20 at a rally aimed at seeking justice for cleanup workers.

                      Honoré joined cleanup workers and their supporters calling for federal judge Carl Barbier to reverse his decision to delay hearing remaining cases of cleanup workers indefinitely. They gathered before delivering a petition with 25,000 signatures seeking justice for the cleanup workers.

                      http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/44272-eight-years-after-bp-oil-spill-sick-cleanup-workers-still-waiting-for-day-in-court

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      Just plantfood..sigh

                    • Code — how about 2 best examples of rollbacks that hurt environment

                      DUDe, ya a koch up the arse is really bad judgement in my book.

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      I ment head up the koch ass barely gives the moral highground.

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      Seriously OT here..is it an accident ?

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      "Code — how about 2 best examples of rollbacks that hurt environment"

                      Seriously..how many articles have been posted..want to keep us trapped in endless arguing ?

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                oil reservoirs must be huge shock absorbers. Non compressible, but whenever there is movement, viscosity will dissipate energy. What to say of direct lubrication in fault lines. But Im sure we dont know the full interaction of oil field and the ecosphere. There must be a complex relationship of gas exchange, microbiota, temperature flux, the tides…who knows what else. The unknown unknowns…

                The consumption of the other species by ape-man is a mind boggling science fiction nightmare. The planet is screaming in pain and heartache

                pay attention to this cow

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNtStsw3rMo

                If dull headed man takes a look, he will see the other animals are 'people' too

                thankful owl
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyOrj9F82zo

                • stock 2018

                  "Animals are far more humane than humans"

                • DUDe DUDe

                  Move Over Chernobyl, Fukushima is Now Officially the Worst Nuclear Power Disaster in History

                  The radiation dispersed into the environment by the three reactor meltdowns at Fukushima-Daiichi in Japan has exceeded that of the April 26, 1986 Chernobyl catastrophe, so we may stop calling it the “second worst” nuclear power disaster in history. Total atmospheric releases from Fukushima are estimated to be between 5.6 and 8.1 times that of Chernobyl, according to the 2013 World Nuclear Industry Status Report. Professor Komei Hosokawa, who wrote the report’s Fukushima section, told London’s Channel 4 News then, “Almost every day new things happen, and there is no sign that they will control the situation in the next few months or years.”

                  Tokyo Electric Power Co. has estimated that about 900 peta-becquerels have spewed from Fukushima, and the updated 2016 TORCH Report estimates that Chernobyl dispersed 110 peta-becquerels.[1](A Becquerel is one atomic disintegration per second. The “peta-becquerel” is a quadrillion, or a thousand trillion Becquerels.)

                  https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/04/27/move-over-chernobyl-fukushima-is-now-officially-the-worst-nuclear-power-disaster-in-history/

        • Collecting rainwater is EXACTLY part of the EPA over-reach nationwide water grab.

          Illegal / Corrupt lobbying is the raw milk issue. Sure driven by greedy capitalistic farm bureaus, etc.

          ——————————-

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            making the collection of rainwater against the rue-lala is an EPA government protection of corporations. EPA is also taking away environmental protection for the same reason. FDA will take away your right to herbs and supplements. rue-lala, rue-lala,..

            That is a victory for corporate profit and Trump the tycoon who does their bidding. Profit before nature is the motto of the capitalist

      • if "health care" uis 20% of GDP why is it shown as 7% here?

        "insurance" 11% of total expenditures. Thats part of the skim operation for sure.

        Corruption of the system, the Rothschilds banking system, the federal reserve that is anything but federal, the conjuring of money….all those feed into stupid high housing costs.

        And of course "the american dream" of owning a house.

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          the government subsidizes insurance companies. Just look at that; they take your money, give it to corporations so that it looks like your insurance payment isnt so high. Then they hit you with co pays and deductibles, and claim they care. The rule of capitalism is to extract the greatest wealth and hoodwink your market

          So many things listed as part of the gross national product are in truth anti-products. Insurance, military, banking and wall-street. Man is unconscionable. I think they call it cooking the books

  • reddit — Radiation in Hawaii, 100 times models from Fukushima.

  • Corruption at the top
    ———————-
    https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/269954/deep-state-or-democrat-state-daniel-greenfield

    All three abused law enforcement resources to protect Democrat political assets. The Cohen raid, Flynn’s prosecution and the Clinton immunity agreements protected, respectively, Fusion GPS, Susan Rice and Huma Abedin, as well as other related figures. But protecting them was also a matter of self-protection for the key FBI and DOJ people who had been doing their bidding. Clintonworld and Fusion GPS had injected the materials into the government on which the illegal investigation of Trump was based. And Rice, Power and others had then abused the materials that came out the other end.

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Seventh court orders TEPCO to pay evacuees from Fukushima"
    http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201803230033.html

  • DUDe DUDe

    North Korean Nuclear Test Site Has Collapsed, Explaining Kim's "Suspension" Of Further Tests

    It finally happened.

    Six months after a group of Chinese scientists warned that the North Korean Punggye-ri nuclear test site was on the verge of collapse, and following reports from Japan's Asahi TV that more than 200 North Koreans had died when a tunnel collapsed at the test site, the South China Morning Post reported today that North Korea’s mountain nuclear test site has completely collapsed, putting China and other nearby nations at unprecedented risk of radioactive exposure, two separate groups of Chinese scientists studying the issue have confirmed.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-25/north-korean-nuclear-test-site-has-collapsed-explaining-kims-suspension-further

  • DUDe DUDe

    From "the other" side's mouth..

    France, USA to enhance cooperation on fast reactors

    27 April 2018

    A statement of intent to strengthen cooperation on fast neutron sodium-cooled reactors has been signed between the US Department of Energy (DOE) and the French Alternative Energies and Atomic Energy Commission (CEA). The partners have also a statement of intent to begin cooperation in the field of artificial intelligence.

    The documents were signed yesterday in Washington, DC, by US Energy Secretary Rick Perry and CEA's new Chairman François Jacq.

    The DOE and CEA will explore areas of further collaboration on the development of fast neutron sodium-cooled reactors, ranging from modelling, simulation and validation, technology testing, access to supply chains, experimental facilities, and advanced materials.

    In artificial intelligence, the CEA and DOE will work on technologies "to better transform data and information into knowledge and expertise to promote our respective goals," the DOE said.

    http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/NP-France-USA-to-enhance-cooperation-on-fast-reactors-2704184.html

  • http://www.iflscience.com/policy/this-could-be-the-real-reason-north-korea-halted-nuclear-testing-and-its-terrifying/

    Snipit:
    North Korean nuclear tests causing 6.3 earthquake coincides with 'suspected' nuclear contamination. (Om the korean peninsula).

    Halted 100kg Tests may be due to collective radioactive decay releases-
    Following nuclear tests.

    -no mention of fukushima (sigh).

    Go figure-

  • France article: 2018-
    Fukushima 7 years later: "This is an unprecedented disaster that by definition is not manageable"–

    Radio France
    Updated on 11/03/2018 | 4:47 p.m.
    published on 11/03/2018 | 4:47 p.m.

    Seven years after the tsunami that caused one of the worst nuclear disasters in history in Fukushima, Japan, the situation is still critical. "The Chernobyl disaster has shown an epidemic of thyroid cancer in young children," said Bruno Chareyron, engineer in nuclear physics, head of the laboratory of the commission for research and independent information on radioactivity (Criirad). "At the time of Fukushima, it was not integrated correctly, because the Japanese population, did not benefit from a distribution of iodine pellets to protect the thyroid," he analyzed.

    Franceinfo: New techniques are being developed to limit contaminations like ice walls and robots. Despite these technical advances, are the scientists powerless to deal with the scale of the problem in Fukushima?

    Bruno Chareyron: Of course, scientists are poor, everyone is helpless in the face of the scale of the problem. There are three nuclear reactor cores that have melted. This is a totally new situation. It is necessary to think of the radioactive hell in which the workers in Fukushima evolve and who are constantly trying to control the situation. Since the beginning of the disaster, we have been talking about 40 to 50,000 workers working on this highly radioactive site. You have to…

    • Radio France
      Updated on 11/03/2018 | 4:47 p.m.
      published on 11/03/2018 | 4:47 p.m.

      Seven years after the tsunami that caused one of the worst nuclear disasters in history in Fukushima, Japan, the situation is still critical. "The Chernobyl disaster has shown an epidemic of thyroid cancer in young children," said Bruno Chareyron, engineer in nuclear physics, head of the laboratory of the commission for research and independent information on radioactivity (Criirad). "At the time of Fukushima, it was not integrated correctly, because the Japanese population, did not benefit from a distribution of iodine pellets to protect the thyroid," he analyzed.

      Franceinfo: New techniques are being developed to limit contaminations like ice walls and robots. Despite these technical advances, are the scientists powerless to deal with the scale of the problem in Fukushima?

      Bruno Chareyron: Of course, scientists are poor, everyone is helpless in the face of the scale of the problem. There are three nuclear reactor cores that have melted. This is a totally new situation. It is necessary to think of the radioactive hell in which the workers in Fukushima evolve and who are constantly trying to control the situation. Since the beginning of the disaster, we have been talking about 40 to 50,000 workers working on this highly radioactive site. You have to think about them, their health, the stress they are constantly undergoing.

      What are the consequences of this disaster…

      • What are the consequences of this disaster beyond Japan?

        Consequences in terms of radioactive contamination. This is what we detected in France with the passage of contaminated air masses in 2011. The most important consequences are for people who still live in the contaminated territories and who have not been evacuated as well as for those whom the Japanese government, in a way, forces to return to areas that can not be decontaminated. Since the beginning of the disaster, the Japanese government with the complicity of other international institutions, tries to minimize the scale of the disaster. It is absolutely unacceptable from an ethical point of view. In relation to the fauna and flora, there are consequences such as genomic instability, small mammals that live on contaminated soils, have their genetic material altered, modified and then transmit genetic anomalies to subsequent generations. In Japan, studies on monkeys, birds, butterflies, show alterations, deformities, stunted growth in the Fukushima region. On the fauna, the flora, and on the man, the consequences of this type of nuclear catastrophe are far from being completely apprehended

  • https://thedailyconspiracy.com/2018/04/26/overpopulation-is-the-elephant-in-the-room/

    how true, yet what government leader would be willing to reduce the amount of slaves on the habitrail wheel paying them taxes?

  • The new "park" at Rocky Flats is trying to attract usership, including recruiting young children, the most susceptible to radiation overall damage and genetic damage.

    "Cleanup was done with the best technology and 'maximum oversight' " nearby sheeple belief the risks are so low they can be ignored.
    "if I thought there was any risk I wouldn't have brought my kids here" sheesh.

    http://denver.cbslocal.com/2018/04/26/field-trips-to-rocky-flats-banned/

  • Mack Mack

    "Due to effects of Chernobyl radiation she was born without legs and has only four total fingers – and is still a champion"

    tweeted by Jack Posobiec

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/990279771488772098

    "Wonder Woman! Belarusian Is 1st Female Double Amputee To Complete Marathon In US"

    https://twitter.com/BelarusFeed/status/990242478900088832

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Findings of Thyroid Ultrasound Examination Within 3 Years After the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant Accident…
    Results: Thyroid cysts, nodules, and cytologically suspected cancers were detected in 68,009, 1415, and 38 male subjects and in 73,014, 2455, and 74 female subjects, respectively." https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/894916

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Move Over Chernobyl, Fukushima is Now Officially the Worst Nuclear Power Disaster in History…
    Contamination of soil, vegetation and water is so widespread in Japan that evacuating all the at-risk populations could collapse the economy, much as Chernobyl did to the former Soviet Union. For this reason, the Japanese government standard for decontaminating soil there is far less stringent than the standard used in Ukraine after Chernobyl."
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/04/27/move-over-chernobyl-fukushima-is-now-officially-the-worst-nuclear-power-disaster-in-history/

  • These asshats (big med) have taken a step again away from preventing cancer, now they dont even want to cure it, they want to "treat it forever".

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    “It’s been a big shift in the last 10 years with thinking about cancer in that way: instead of a cure, treat it like a chronic disease where you live with disease and live your life well with that disease. It’s a major shift, but a tremendous goal,” she added.

    http://www.foxnews.com/health/2018/04/18/curing-cancer-not-realistic-goal-doctors-focus-on-managing-instead-curing-disease.html

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    hmmmm she was just recently appointed to the board a large pharmaceutical company……

    WALTHAM, Mass., Jan. 31, 2017 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) — Syndax Pharmaceuticals, Inc. ("Syndax," the “Company” or "we") (Nasdaq:SNDX), a clinical stage biopharmaceutical company focused on developing entinostat and SNDX-6352 in multiple cancer indications, today announced the appointment of Lisa M. Coussens, Ph.D., to its Scientific Advisory Board.

    https://www.biospace.com/article/releases/syndax-appoints-b-lisa-m-coussens-ph-d-b-to-scientific-advisory-board-/

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