Report: “Red Alert! Sharp increase in radiation… at Fukushima” — Levels spike 400,000% under plant — Almost 1,000,000,000 becquerels per cubic meter — TV: Officials investigating cause

Published: December 10th, 2015 at 4:15 pm ET
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NHK World, Dec 9, 2015: Radiation spikes in Fukushima underground ducts — The operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant says levels of radioactivity in underground tunnels have sharply risen. Tokyo Electric Power Company has detected 482,000 becquerels per liter of radioactive cesium in water samples taken from the tunnels on December 3rd. That’s 4000 times higher than data taken in December last year. The samples also contained 500,000 becquerels of a beta-ray-emitting substance, up 4,100 times from the same period… They plan to investigate what caused the spike in radiation.

Rossiya Segodnya (Russian gov’t news agency) – Sputnik: Red Alert! Radiation Spike Registered Under Fukushima Nuclear Plant — A sharp increase in radiation levels was detected in one of the underground tunnels at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, according to media reports. According to a press release issued by TEPCO, Fukushima plant’s operator, the water samples retrieved from the tunnels on December 3rd contained 482,000 becquerels per liter of radioactive cesium and about 500,000 of beta-ray-emitting substance becquerels per liter of a beta-ray-emitting substance, which is about 4,000-4,100 times higher compared to the samples taken a year ago, Japanese NHK TV channel reports.

Tokyo Electric Power Company (translated by Google), Dec 9, 2015: About the situation at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, we will inform you as follows… As part of the accumulated water survey in the trench duct that is connected to each building, it is a confirmation of the radioactivity concentration of appropriate standing water, but the waste treatment building between the contact duct taken on December 3 analytical results of stagnant water is, ensure that it is following values.

 <December 3 [2015]>

  • Cesium-134: 9.2 × 10^4 Bq/L [92,000 Bq/L]
  • Cesium-137: 3.9 × 10^5 Bq/L [390,000 Bq/L]
  • All beta: 5.0 × 10^5 Bq/L [500,000 Bq/L]
  • Tritium: 6.7 × 10^3 Bq/L [6,700 Bq/L]

Reference (December 11… 2014):

  • Cesium-134: 2.7 × 10^1 Bq/L [27 Bq/L]
  • Cesium-137: 9.4 × 10^1 Bq/L [94 Bq/L]
  • All beta: 1.2 × 10^2 Bq/L [120 Bq/L]
  • Tritium: 3.1 × 10^2 Bq/L [310 Bq/L]

According to TEPCO’s data, total cesium increased 3,984 times (~400,000%) and all beta-emitting radionuclides including strontium-90 increased 4,167 times (~420,000%).

The total concentration of radionuclides in the Dec. 3, 2015 sample is 988,700 Bq/L or 988,700,000 Bq/m^3.

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1,021 comments to Report: “Red Alert! Sharp increase in radiation… at Fukushima” — Levels spike 400,000% under plant — Almost 1,000,000,000 becquerels per cubic meter — TV: Officials investigating cause

      • Slylandro Slylandro

        "A wave hit the ship"
        – is that unusual?
        "Oh yeh… at sea?! A chance in a million"
        – so what did you do to protect the environment?
        "Well, the ship was towed outside the environment"
        – into another environment…
        "No no no, it was towed beyond the environment – it's not IN the environment"
        – so from one environment to another environment…
        "No, it's NOT in the environment. It's beyond the environment – it's been towed outside the environment.
        – well what's out there?
        "There's nothing out there"
        – well there must be something out there?
        "No there's nothing out there – all there is that's out there is sea, and birds, and fish…"
        – and?
        "And 20,000 tons of crude oil"
        – and what else?
        "And a fire"
        – and anything else?
        "And the part of the ship that the front fell off. But there's nothing else out there".

    • dunkilo

      hahahaha!Great find!That actor is a dead ringer for most politicans ..

    • Hahahaah!
      Skylandro; what a way to start the morning!

      THAT is exactly; EXACTLY, how i feel in reading the email from Buesseler. He keeps saying the front fell off.
      And it's outside of the environment.

      Perfect.
      (This is also why I truly don't think I want to waste my time responding to his reply. I think I would go MAD!)

    • To hear in severe medical detail a phone interview with helen caldicott & dr. wertelecki on how ionizing radiation destroys the dna and other specific medical results , i know of no other source for such medically specific data, as such i seldom make this web page available….

      followed by dr wertelecki presentation at the fukushima symposium nyc

      last a video by dr busby on his findings on fukushima

      called No Tears, because it's impossible not to cry….

      listen here http://wyynd.tripod.com/nT.html

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Planet is toast! 🙁

  • Nick

    Forgive folks, for I am going to go out on a limb…….

    ….In the midst of all the GMI around us, and the spread of same, it is imperative that we keep thinking forwards; some of us have to start living 50 years in the future, otherwise we'll never get there.

    I have a hunch that an asteroid or comet fragment, not yet detected has the potential to severely damage our atmosphere.

    When such an event happens (I am certain Earth has seen such events) is it not logical to recreate the atmosphere, the space-blanket with sequestered biofuels?

    You can do that with nuclear, wind, solar, tidal, etc.

    You would need the material molecules.

    • Learn from the best…

      As you climb out on the limb, learn from the nuclear and carbon industy; take a saw with you.

      When you get to the end, do as they do; turn around and saw through the branch. That way, no bad news can get out, cause no one else can climb onto the branch with you and talk with you.

      That will prevent any problems and no one has to worry about survivors.
      sarc

      On second thought, maybe there is a better way…

  • Nick

    You can not do that with nuclear, wind, solar, tidal, etc.

  • Gasser Gasser

    Happy Xmass time Carol

    ~Drummer Boy~

    Come as they bullshit told me
    As Plutonium plumes pump pumped



    A new born Element to see,
    
As Plutonium plumes pump pumped

    Our deadliest gifts we bring

    As Plutonium plumes pump pump

    To lay into the Nuclear thing
    As Plutonium plumes pump pump

    Plutonium plumes pumped
    Plume pump pump

    
So to shut it down
 some
    As Plutonium plumes pump pump

    When we at enenews come.

    Little Baby

    As Plutonium plumes pump pump

    I am a poor deformed boy too,

    
As Plutonium plumes pump and pump

    I have no gift to bring

    Only a FUBAR sting

    As Plutonium plumes are pumped
    
That will stop that Nuclear thing

    Plutonium plumes pump pumped
    plumes pump pumping

    
Shall I play for you!

    As Plutonium plumes pump pump

    On my Hanford leaking drums.

    
Madam Currie glow nodded

    As Plutonium plumes pumped pumped

    The MOX rods kept Becquerel time

    As Plutonium plumes pump pumped

    
I beat my truth drum at TEPCO
    
As Plutonium plumes pump pump

    I played my best for NCR

    As Plutonium plumes pump pumped

    
Plutonium pump pumped

    Pump Plutonium pump

    
Then NRC sneered at me
    
As plumes of Plutonium pump pumped


    Beating their death filled Hanford drums.

    ~Gasser Classic~

  • Slylandro Slylandro

    NYT:EPA Broke the Law…

    "GAO’s finding confirms what I have long suspected, that EPA will go to extreme lengths and even violate the law to promote its activist environmental agenda,” and "Federal agencies are allowed to promote their own policies, but they are not allowed to engage in propaganda…"

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/15/us/politics/epa-broke-the-law-by-using-social-media-to-push-water-rule-auditor-finds.html?_r=0

  • califnative califnative

    Folks, R1 has black debris flying out of R1 periodicaly right now if anyone is interested in watching what could happen next!
    http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/f1-np/camera/index2-e.html

    http://postimg.org/image/iyj0ju7jf/

  • SanityQuest SanityQuest

    An interesting perspective on "global warming". Published on Dec 9, 2015

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GRMbtusVzg&feature=youtu.be

  • Jebus Jebus

    OK, follow along here. Read a few of the many articles…

    https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Toxic+algae+is+causing&tbs=qdr:d

    That search is just for the last 24 hours…

    Note the use liberal of "may", and "could be".

    Now, here is the study. Paywall again.

    http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2015/12/14/science.aac5675

    But, all one has to do is click on each author of the "study" and it becomes very clear that none of these people have ever submitted anything even remotely close in this field of study.

    You would think, that if any of them had any previous papers, in context, at all, they would list them.

    Baljeet Singh has a couple of papers.

    They also found brain lesions in the sea lions… 😐

    This is how the lies are presented as scientific fact, as a service…

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      The spin cycle is on high in the spin machine..no mention of Nuclear Poisons anywhere.. 🙁

      Fukushima never happened!

      Move along and those lost cores are nothing to worry about!

      World is brain dead and now full of Zombies!

    • RattleShark RattleShark

      Interesting that the study was published today and already 14 news articles on it . It's like they knew ahead of time that the study was coming out.

      Things that make you say "Hmmm"

    • RattleShark RattleShark

      Pay wall again : Experimental studies show that after exposure, uranium can reach the brain and lead to neurobehavioral impairments, including increased locomotor activity, perturbation of the sleep-wake cycle, decreased memory, and increased anxiety. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26277741

    • RattleShark RattleShark

      Toxic algae is the new Uranium
      Uranyl Acetate Induces Oxidative Stress and Mitochondrial Membrane Potential Collapse in the Human Dermal Fibroblast Primary Cells: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3832159/

      Damaged caused by oxidative stress
      Oxidative stress leads to many pathophysiological conditions in the body. Some of these include neurodegenerative diseases such as Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's disease, gene mutations and cancers, chronic fatigue syndrome, fragile X syndrome, heart and blood vessel disorders, atherosclerosis, heart failure, heart attack and inflammatory diseases.: http://www.news-medical.net/health/What-is-Oxidative-Stress.aspx

    • irhologram

      Jebus. I was interested in neurological affects of domoic acid because when I was diagnosed with CFIDS 15 years ago, my cardiologist shared his friend had suffered cognitive decline and fatigue from eating shellfish…And so when I saw your reference, I was just curious about connecting any dots that may be there, but also wonder who these scientists think they are arriving at conclusions when they have no expertise…according to your phraseology.

      So…in your very first article, the first researcher listed, Peter Cook, Emory U., has 41 cited papers to his credit…all on various neurological complexities in various species. I'm not sure how you conclude his extensive neurological research background disqualifies him to observe and document cognitive dysfunction in sea lions exposed to domoic algae bloom.

      I don't find these findings to be disengenuous at all…in fact anyone who didn't open these links might been left with the wrong assumption that these findings were intentionally misleading.

      • Jebus Jebus

        Did you get access to the study?

        Did Mr Cook cite any of his previous studies, supporting this study?

        Again, Did you get access to the study?

        You are going to accept simple observations as scientific fact without repeatibility?

        Your response pretty much sum's up the general populations gullibility for paid for science.

        You sound like the media…

          • Jebus Jebus

            Really, your going to try and pass that off as the exact study I posted?

            • irhologram

              I don't know, Jebus. Do you know? Did you look?

              Why the confrontational attitude on research? I know it is the topic of the same study thesis. Gosh, may I ask you please to do your own research, at least after I have supplied you with your link to do it? In any case, they ARE and HAVE been studying domoic acid's relationship to cognitive decline since the late 90s…pre-Fukushima.

              Go here: "The first signs that California's sea lions were being affected by the algae toxin came in 1998 when hundreds washed ashore in Monterey Bay, and strandings of the marine mammals, often showing signs of confusion and seizures, have been seen almost every year since then.

              Most of the recent strandings have been of malnourished sea lion pups, and even ones not directly affected by the domoic acid could be linked to the neurotoxin's effects on their mothers, says study lead author Peter Cook. He began his studies on the toxin while a graduate student at UC Santa Cruz and he is now a postdoctoral researcher at Emory University.

              "When you see an underfed but otherwise healthy pup, you assume something happened to the mother," Cook says. "We suspect that what happened is that the food was moving around, it was less predictable.

              In an animal with a severe impairment of spatial memory, that can be a significant problem, he says."
              http://www.techtimes.com/articles/116296/20151215/toxic-marine-algae-causing-brain-damage-in-california-sea-lions.htm

              • IRHologram; it i s not the same study. I think this is what Jebus was saying. And in the, "study", you've posted, did you miss the word, "assumed"? This so-called study is based on assumption (as all are, to a degree, but I don't think they prove anything in this study.)
                Regardless, the studies are separate. They are not even the same authors. And, one talks about lesions on/in the hyppocantus and the other discusses cerebrospinal fluid, which MAY lead to brain abnormalities. It doesn't sound as if they actually found lesions. Had they, certainly they would have posted this conclusive evidence,. no?

                And, why are you confronting people, yet calling them, "confrontational"? You did this to me the other day. Now you've done the same to Jebus.
                Who's effecting the rule of divide and conquer, in here, if not you?

                • irhologram

                  I don't have further time for this…but it seems the original research is available through following information here:

                  Science aac5675
                  DOI:10.1126/science.aac5675

                  http://www.sciencemag.org/lookup/doi/10.1126/science.aac5675
                  and http://phys.org/news/2015-12-sea-lions-exposed-algal-toxin.html#jCp

                  Abstract:

                  ALGAL TOXIN IMPAIRS SEA LION MEMORY AND HIPPOCAMPAL CONNECTIVITY, WITH IMPLICATIONS FOR STRANDINGS
                  Domoic acid (DA) is a naturally occurring neurotoxin known to harm marine animals. DA-producing algal blooms are increasing in size and frequency. Although chronic exposure is known to produce brain lesions, the influence of DA toxicosis on behavior in wild animals is unknown. We showed, in a large sample of wild sea lions, that spatial memory deficits are predicted by the extent of right dorsal hippocampal lesions related to natural exposure to DA and that exposure also disrupts hippocampal-thalamic brain networks. Because sea lions are dynamic foragers that rely on flexible navigation, impaired spatial memory may affect survival in the wild.

                  • Jebus Jebus

                    Ya, sorry I have been trapped all day in a hampster wheel, but now it's just further in time…

                    Confrontational, lol. Sorry I made you uncomfortable. No one want's that these days…

                    My point in posting the flash study and instantaneous press release, was not to dispute the narrow minded findings of neurotoxic demoic acid's effects, as anyone halfway educated knows, yes, it's going to impare the seal lions cognitive functions, rather to point out the absolute absurdity of using any of this to explain the sea lions mass mortality. The sea lions have been living fine, more or less, with these defensive neurotoxins for eons.

                    One needs to ask what has changed to accelerate these events the in last three plus years, and especially, in 2015?

                    With all the creatures that are dying, seems kinda foolish to pick out a few sea lions mortality as cause.

                    Nuclear waste causes the exact same effects.

                    So would many tsunami chemicals.

                    And the media carries on with the blame for agenda. Warm blob is your fault you fossil fuel sucking monkey. Here, have some fish.

                    What about the starfish, sardines, plankton, chinook salmon, polar bears, eagles, whales, dolphins, and porpoises?

                    Prolly not the purpose of the study.

                    With this kind of disinformative paid for science, who needs sea lions?

                    • irhologram

                      Jebus. TY for your kind response. Yes. I agree.

                      As you know, tho, my "take" is that this is ELEs, not singular. I'm hoping our discussion brings to top of mind that acidification of the ocean…easily documented off the entire West coast due to undersea pluming…is ALSO forefront ALONG with the affect of nuclear actinides.

                      That's why I'd like to respect studies advancrped reflecting that hideous onslaught, as well.

                      I have just had thrown against my mind's resistance that the clathrate and reservoir oil "fields" are "souring"…that "ancient" bacteria are converting methane to H2S everywhere…not just in the sea.

                      The good news is we probably didn't create this cycle…but if we did, yours and my responsibile conscience is wasted. I also had it put to me that not only are chem trails in our best interest, considering the 1% temp rise in the days of flight-less skies after 9/11, but also that relentless fracking may be to prevent additional production of H2S.

                      God knows. Or the matrix. Or the Consiousness. Of TPTB. I do not.

                      Thank you Jebus for remaining my friend, without contention. Blessings to you and your family.

                    • Angela_R

                      Thank you Jebus and irhologram for two of the best posts I have seen on this website.

                      In my lounge I have a small handmade picture made by a friend, who a year before her death must have a had a premonition for she remarked "we MUST get together". I was given this on one of three occasions we met thereafter.

                      A day or so after she died, I picked it up and carefully examined it.
                      In a corner, written in very small handwriting were the words:
                      "friendship is forever."

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      Feelings are mutual for everyone who makes an effort to speak out, while being critical and civil, in this fukaleidoscope of truth and lies…

                      I note everyone I speak to, that responds with. "I know", adds they believe it's too late… 😐

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Burning a ton of wood! 🙁 Burrr!

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    2013 http://enenews.com/reuters-crisis-deepening-at-fukushima-nuclear-plant-now-a-level-3-serious-incident-represents-a-100-fold-increase-in-severity-of-a-radiological-release-tepco-says-leak-is-continuing-does

    But, if they knew the percentages of spent fuel inventory loss in 2011, Why was Fukushima only rated 3 in 2013? Obviously, fools in high places…shhh, covered it up.

  • Aloha good peoples, cooperate and be effective.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    They don't know what the Hell they are doing?

    AP Interview: Fukushima decommission chief says plan has no 'textbook,' promises can't be made
    Dec 15 2015

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/12/15/ap-interview-fukushima-decommission-chief-says-plan-has-no-textbook-promises/

    Perhaps they should try 'Lincoln Logs'.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    The fence rider extraordinaire..

    "Having witnessed this industry up close for the last decade and a half, I am concerned that the uniquely perfect promise of safe, clean, predictable, and affordable nuclear power will divert our focus from solutions that will actually work to control greenhouse gas emissions."

    "While I applaud financial and technical entrepreneurs who are willing — with private capital — to try once again to crack the nut of safe, clean, predictable and affordable nuclear power, the hope of yet another nuclear power savior should not keep us from focusing on the known technologies that — with evolution of our electricity distribution system — can provide carbon free electricity on a much shorter time frame."

    Nuclear Power and Climate Change
    Dec 14 2015

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gregory-jaczko/nuclear-power-and-climate_b_8806792.html

    NO word about Fukushima.
    This is where I 'draw the line in the sand'.

    Ps..What did they do? ask Big Oil to stand down?

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      I can't get 3 Years of of a hot water tank in the year 2015 and these Bozos think they can get 80 years out of a Nuclear Hot Water tank?

      Not going to happen safely and we will see these, blow, break down, and fail, as they age.. 🙁

    • Private capital? You mean investors? Who is investing in new nuclear plants these days?

      Maybe the NRC folks?

      Who else?

      The hormesis promoters?

      That's about it, and that is a TINY number…

      Really doubt any of them are actually ponying up money to build nuclear plants, at all.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        China seeks to build chain of UK nuclear plants

        http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8fa43dd2-77e4-11e5-933d-efcdc3c11c89.html#axzz3uSRFBOmW

        china says customers will enjoy a reduced carbon energy source with nuclear

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          aahh, nuclear in Bangladesh…what could go wrong?

          Nuclear power is under serious consideration in over 45 countries which do not currently have it (in a few, consideration is not necessarily at government level). For countries listed immediately below in bold, nuclear power prospects are more fully dealt with in specific country papers:

          In Europe: Italy, Albania, Serbia, Croatia, Portugal, Norway, Poland, Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, Ireland, Turkey.
          In the Middle East and North Africa: Iran (reactor now operating), Gulf states including UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar & Kuwait, Yemen, Israel, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Algeria, Morocco, Sudan.
          In west, central and southern Africa: Nigeria, Ghana, Senegal, Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Namibia.
          In Central and South America: Cuba, Chile, Ecuador, Venezuela, Bolivia, Peru, Paraguay.
          In central and southern Asia: Azerbaijan, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka
          In SE Asia: Indonesia, Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Malaysia, Singapore, Myanmar, Australia, New Zealand.
          In east Asia: North Korea.

          http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Country-Profiles/Others/Emerging-Nuclear-Energy-Countries/

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          "Watts Bar Unit 2 will be first new nuclear unit to operate in the U.S. in the 21st century.
          Unit 2 will deliver 1,150 megawatts of carbon-free electricity, enough to power 650,000 average homes in the region."
          http://www.bechtel.com/projects/watts-bar-completion/

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          Report: Nuclear Energy Essential to Illinois Economy, Environment. Only nuclear could supply energy during the cold weather!

          " the single most effective emission control strategy for utilities was to increase nuclear generation. Increased nuclear capacity and improved efficiency at nuclear power plants"

          http://www.nei.org/Knowledge-Center/Nuclear-Statistics/Environment-Emissions-Prevented

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          25 new nuclear power plants by 2040? Its the only reliable greenhouse gas free energy source, our experts tell us!

          "our nation will need hundreds of new power plants to provide electricity for our homes and continued economic growth. Maintaining nuclear energy's current 20 percent share of generation would require building one reactor every year starting in 2016, or 20 to 25 new units by 2040, based on DOE forecasts. Nuclear energy is the only electricity source that can generate electricity 24/7 reliably, efficiently and with no greenhouse-gas emissions."

          http://www.nei.org/Issues-Policy/New-Nuclear-Energy-Facilities

          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            25 new pieces of toast! All populations should start dropping like a rock!

            Poison On! 🙁

            Oh wait.. they are all ready dropping like a rock!

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              They want to build a nuke plant in Belarus which is already on a course for extinction in about 75 yrs based on dwindling population numbers. Businessmen dont care about deformed babies! Psychopaths are in control and have no innate moral compass!

              • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                They do however have the love of the Devil and lots of money in all their pockets!

                • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                  The Devil has had a good run and the weak humans embrace his every move..Enjoy!
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DMDscGOUpg

                  • Angela_R

                    Obe, you state "The Devil has had a good run"

                    May I, rephrase to "The Devil had his run", but he lost over two thousand years ago. Sure, he still has the power to tempt and give material gain.

                    Did it/will it help?

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      no, the anthropocentric myth that the devil was overpowered by jesus 2000 years ago does not help either man nor animal, which are both going extinct, just a question of time, what with China building many new nuclear plants around the world. …great comic visual though; a nuke plant is smoking and the foreman bends over to examine a tag which says 'MADE IN CHINA'
                      Just what does that goofy belief help, exactly? Lions? Seals? Otters? Insects? Pelicans? Whales? Buddhists? Plankton?

                    • Angela_R

                      "no, the anthropocentric myth that the devil was overpowered by jesus 2000 years ago does not help either man nor animal, which are both going extinct."

                      Understood, though to me Jesus was not a myth, but Jesus was only one, the way was left for others to follow.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      the ones reading that bible compilation…what do they know about 'devil' and triumph over 'him'? Answer; nothing. They should at least be aware that there are many other ideas and interpretations of the general concept. Christianity takes the unity out of the unity-verse! They wouldnt recognize the devil if it was staring back at them from the mirror

                      A chain of nukes…McNukers

                      China seeks to build chain of UK nuclear plants

                      http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8fa43dd2-77e4-11e5-933d-efcdc3c11c89.html#axzz3uSRFBOmW

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      It does take quite a bit of practice and time is what I heard..
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World%27s_Sixteen_Crucified_Saviors

                    • Angela_R

                      "the ones reading that bible compilation…what do they know about 'devil' and triumph over 'him'? Answer; nothing"

                      Am I to understand that you believe Christ knew nothing about the 'devil'?

                      On the basis of YOUR knowledge you make that statement?

                      That observation would be very arrogant, Code…

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Angela, its not arrogant for a doctor in, say the year 1478 to proclaim that man and doctor know very little about the body and what makes it tick. How much more true is this for abstract concepts that dont necessarily conform to the narrow confines of mans imaginations of space-time, morality, cause and effect?

                      Would you like to know what arrogance is? Arrogance is thinking you know about the things that are beyond your experience and capability to grasp. Not 'you' but apes in general. What is non arrogance or humility? Admitting we dont know what we dont know and may never know. As we drop our little opinion pieces, humility is the best bet…

                      I bet you anything that 'jesus' did not externalize the 'devil' but saw it as layers of immersion in duality and the illusion of separatism, christianities favorite concept!

                      I didnt aim to carry on a philosophical conversation, rather I was hoping to nip at the ones who take it for granted that their version is so correct they ought to just spread and smear it around willy nilly… Did you really think that by asserting that jesus overpowered the devil 2000 years ago you were enlightening the readers and bringing about the end of nuclear? Pretty sure Obe was using the term in a broad abstract sense, before your 'correction'

                    • Angela_R

                      Code, I was answering YOU, not Obe.
                      Reread my post @ 2.57am

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Angela, you appear to 'correct' obe at 1:55am. You ask Did it/will it help? and this is what prompted my answer; no. You asked me to elaborate, but I thought the little no answer was just about the right length! I feel guilt for polluting the threads from there

                    • Angela_R

                      Code @ 3.43am

                      Angela, you appear to 'correct' obe at 1:55am.

                      CODE:
                      Reread my post.

                      And YOU answered….

                  • Angela_R

                    The 'no' Code, needs to be expanded.

                • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                  These people do not mind killing others or killing our own..they love the Devil's money and the power it brings..
                  http://www.ratical.org/radiation/KillingOurOwn/

              • Angela_R

                "Businessmen dont care about deformed babies! Psychopaths are in control and have no innate moral compass!"

                I'm not the Judge, but why do I think, it will be ruled – Unconscionable.

                Not in your LAW? Do any understand the Right of a Judge to determine?

                unconscionable

      • AirSepTech AirSepTech

        JEEZ DG, where is yer Head?

        Who is invested in NUKE? hahahahhahahahaha

        Likely YOU, and everyone here.

        Your retirement fund, 401k, your friends investments, city, county, state, obviously the fed gov, banks, other utilities, damn near every big business with hedgemoney, need I go on?

        If it ain't direct, you can bet there is multitudes involved in support roles. Do you understand Mutual Funds, who/what/why?

        You do realize when you turn on the light switch, you have casted a vote, no?

        Paris —– ya think, covers the rest of the world as above, rinse and repeat.

        Do you need a shovel for Christmas? To find that item that is buried?

    • The Nuclear “Renaissance” Is Dead In France And Globally; Zero Carbon, Zero Nuclear, Zero Carbon Renaissance Birthed And Growing Fast
      http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-nuclear-renaissance-is-over-zero.html

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    oops..I can't get 3 Years "out" of a hot water tank in the year 2015 and these Bozos think they can get 80 years out of a Nuclear Hot Water tank?

    • razzz razzz

      obewanspeaks: The pattern I see is, only the profit making part of the equation has to fail in order to shutdown a nuke plant. Protective laws for a nuke plant operator covers everything from limited liability to collecting forward via ratepayers' monthly bills for new plant construction including collecting monthly fees now for decommissioning costs later on for that same yet to be built plant continuing for decades into the future even after the nuke plant ceases operation because of spent fuel cost concerns.

      Profits from rates are guaranteed before a plant even starts producing power. Any losses (from competing energies) are sure to be addressed by increasing rates on monthly bills, if that fail then finally a nuke plant will succumb to investment losses and be scheduled for closing.

      It is more of a money thing with risks from nuke fallout be dammed.

      Costs from nuke power plant fallout are ignored like nuclear poisoning is not a health risk or a type of medical condition.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Our world is run by fools and the long term generational story will look back at these times and question all of our sanity when it was only a few in control now.. that determined their fate. 🙁

  • Sol Man

    Are our marvelous scientists diligently working to design the new genomes out of a space age plastic, or sumthin?

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