Report: Study warns Fukushima contamination “is becoming more concentrated as it crosses Pacific Ocean, rather than dispersing” — “It’s making a beeline for U.S. West Coast” — “Scientists causing panic in public”

Published: September 4th, 2013 at 7:59 am ET
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Title: Hawaii Scientists Seek To Calm U.S. Fears About Fukushima Radiation
Source: Huffington Post
Author: Sophie Cocke
Date: Sept. 3, 2013

University of Hawaii scientists are seeking to lessen anxieties about the potential health risks from Japan’s Fukushima nuclear disaster in the wake of recent international reports warning that dangerous levels of radiation could hit the west coast of the United States next year.

The distribution of the impact strength of Cesium-137 at year 1.5 (a), year 3.5 (b) and year 4 (c). (SOURCE: Han G J, et al. Sci China Earth Sci August (2013) Vol.56 No.8)

Earlier this month, a study published in Science China warned that radiation leaking from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant is becoming more concentrated as it crosses the Pacific Ocean, rather than dispersing, and that it is making a beeline for the west coast of the United States. The study, coupled with recent disclosures by Tokyo Electric Power Company, or Tepco, that radiation-contaminated water continues to leak into the ocean, has rekindled public concerns about health dangers.

But local scientists at the International Pacific Research Center who have been tracking the nuclear disaster caused by Japan’s devastating earthquake and tsunami in 2011 say that the findings published in the Chinese scientific journal are simply wrong and that the health risks to residents on the West Coast and Hawaii are somewhere between minuscule and non-existent.

“This is a bad disaster,” said Henrieta Dulaiova, an assistant professor in UH’s Department of Geology and Geophysics. “But I don’t like scientists causing panic in the public.”

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71 comments to Report: Study warns Fukushima contamination “is becoming more concentrated as it crosses Pacific Ocean, rather than dispersing” — “It’s making a beeline for U.S. West Coast” — “Scientists causing panic in public”

  • nedlifromvermont

    from the article: "I don't like scientists causing panic in the public"

    Well, Ms. Dulaiova, I don't much like businessmen covering up legitimate concerns which scientists and engineers bring to their attention, like General Electric's refusal to listen to its Vice President in charge of reactor quality control, in 1977, a Mr. Dale Bridenbaugh, who warned against the Mark Class of GE designed and built Boiling Water Reactors being shipped with a primary containment shell (Rube Goldberg contraption) which he calculated would not stand up to the "dynamic loads expected to occur from a loss of coolant accident." (LOCA)

    Which criticism, if listened to, would have required shut down and retro-fit of the three Fukushitty Death Machines which now threaten life on planet Earth for centuries to come.

    The list of scientists, Albert Einstein, Linus Pauling etc. etc. who tried to steer this country and the world clear of the deadly contamination it now faces would stretch well beyond my character limit.

    John Gofman, MD, PhD, tried to bring sanity to this profits-crazed business model, was previously an AEC insider, and was hounded out of the industry and had his funding yanked for his anti-nuclear apostasy. It turns out the nuclear Popes (Lewis Strauss, Chet Holifield and everyone on the General Electric Co. board were in fact nuclear devils … insanely intent on contaminating the only planet in our cosmic neighborhood which supports life.

    Go figure.

    • SS4U SS4U

      I second that nedlifromvermont ! Well put. Well said.

      We need to counter the covert propping up of the so-called " safe green and clean " nuclear power industry whereever it rears its ugly head and you did exactly that in your post.

    • Gasser Gasser

      The times they Are a-changen'

      Come gather 'round people
      
Wherever you roam

      And admit that radioactive waters
      
Around you have grown
      
And accept it that soon
      
You'll be Cesium drenched in the bone.

      
Folks your time for you

      Is no longer worth savin'
      
You better not start Swimmin'

      Or you'll sink like a Plutoium stone

      For the times they are a-changin'.

      Come enenews writers and critics
      
Who prophesies reality with your pen

      And keep your eyes wide
      
This ELE catastrophe won't come again

      And start speaking soon
      
For the wheel's still in meltdown spin
      
And there's tellin' who

      That it's TEPCO its namin’.

      
For the whistle blowers now
      
Will be later to win
      
For the times they are a-changin’.

      Cont'

      • Gasser Gasser

        Cont’ The times are a-changin’

        Come lying senators, Congressmen

        Please heed man's call

        Don't stand in the doorway
        
Don't block up the hall

        For he that gets hurt
        
Will be he who has stalled

        There's a NO! Nuclear battle outside
        
And it is Atomically ragin’.

        
It'll soon shake your windows

        And rattle your walls
        
For the times they are a-changin'.

        Come mothers and fathers

        Throughout the land

        And do criticize

        What you can understand

        Your sons and your daughters

        Are beyond their command
        
Your contaminated roads are 
Rapidly degrading.

        
Please get off enenews.com

        If you can't lend your hand
        
For the times they are a-changin'.

        The line it is drawn
        
The curse it is cast

        The slow one now
        
Will later die fast
        
As the present now

        Will later be ELE past

        The order is
 rapidly fadin’.

        
And the first one now
        
Later won't die last
        
For the ELE times they did a-changin'.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y8AxJBT-tXw

  • Lacsap Lacsap

    Assistant professor vs scientists.. My bed is on the scientists..

    • WWJD WWJD

      Glad you pointed this out, I overlooked that at first. Maybe all the real scientists will not lie anymore and all they can use now are the assistants.

      • We Not They Finally

        WWJD, that may be as short-sighted as the comment above yours. A lot of the scientific community works at universities, which are outlandishly corrupted by grant money, many of them these days. Like did you know that MIT has "a TEPCO chair"? And have you heard any alarms coming out of MIT? To the contrary.

        So please value the quality of the info, not the title in front of someone's name.

    • We Not They Finally

      Lacsap, that's pretty snobbish and short-sighted. Look at how people are or are not CORRUPTED, not their titles. A lot of people with no degrees at all give amazing information and actually care.

      • Lacsap Lacsap

        My above comment is based on this part: “But I don’t like scientists causing panic in the public.” Which sounded like scientist were warning the public which she does not like but which i do like..

  • bo bo

    'I don't like scientists causing panic in the public'….?

    I don't like scientists who just throw around statements without proof, and I also
    don't like scientists who are paid by the nuke industry.

    • We Not They Finally

      Is panic in private better? What about people not being told enough to protect themselves? What about private corporations never considering that the air and the ocean and the soil are public property?

    • We Not They Finally

      Does it really matter if in the end its going to kill us?Nuclear Radiation was never safe and it was put in the hands of scavangers and mega criminals who are too stupid to realize that in the end it will kill them too.

  • The article seems shallow. I don't think they have enough info to credibly say no danger.

    Henrieta Dulaiova's

    http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/GG/FACULTY/hdulaiov/

    another article explaining what Henrieta Dulaiova is up to

    http://www.treehugger.com/clean-technology/fukushima-worse-than-chernobyl-when-it-comes-to-oceans.html

    Little mention of bio accumulation.

    Who is funding her http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Science_Foundation#History_and_mission

    Her paycheques are signed by Uncle Sam…….

    • We Not They Finally

      Your last sentence may say it. Who pays people? But if that's the case, then maybe she went FAR considering that she may be on a leash.

      I mean, some of what we need to watch is when people's behavior CHANGES. Like until about a month back, the Japanese were just patent liars about everything. But now they are (well, still lying, but) openly panicked. So if they're the ones who are now this panicked, then it has to be truly terrifying.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Dulaiova has an impressive CV (Curriculum Vitae). But one has to wonder, when reviewing it, if she has been influenced by the WHO/IAEA and health physics view of radiation exposure.

  • or-well

    About those mushrooms –
    Meaningless comparison!

    What IS the 1% level – compared with what level in which mushroom species, which country (how far away, how long after, what were the atmospheric conditions), which study, and what were the testing protocols, did they differ, and did other studies after Chernobyl done with the same mushrooms, protocols, in same country/different countries vary?
    There are other variables too, but you get the idea.
    What are the levels compared to say, non-central European mushrooms or Hawaii mushrooms pre-Fuku?
    What are the levels of the contaminated mushrooms in Hawaii?
    There's science and then there's meaningless downplaying.

    • weeman

      Mushrooms what a fascinating organism, did you know they have no nutritional value and also no taste, yet we eat them by the billions, also they have a unusual ability to accumulate radioactive isotopes with little effect on the organism.
      I agree a great indicator of contamination levels and could be used to gauge dangerious levels.
      I am sure this data is available, if not would not be hard to start our own data base, if we could get some enenewsers to pay for analyis.

      • or-well

        Hi weeman,
        the very ability you mention is probably one reason the Hawaiian scientist in the Huffington post article has been studying them.

        I object to her not saying what the actual contamination level is.

        Instead, she says it's 1% of some quantity that is who knows what.
        She obviously knows. But I don't. And she doesn't say.

        So maybe people should be given the numbers. Then they can decide for themselves if they're happy with the levels of radioactive bio-accumulation in Hawaiian mushrooms or not.

        I'm realy tired of being treated like a mushroom, kept in the dark and covered in shit.

        • jec jec

          We had a KI4U RadTriage badge TRIGGER with 20 mSv last spring 2012 in Hawaii. They were near a beach which had some blue painted tsumani ocean debris. It could be a badge issue, or error in report, but it happened….Just Saying.

          It was similar to an identical badge triggering a radiation alarm when taken to the middle of an old atomic bomb test site from the 50s. This badge was correct. Just Saying…

          Would suggest, now there is rising media/public concern(FINALLY), to test with GOOD dosimeters(higher than 100 mSv); publish/inform on radiation data from Hawaii, and other areas of the USA. For other countries..they too need to be careful.

          HUH..TEPCO, you too should consider getting better dosimeters/wands as the radiation counts are HIGHER than the 100 mSv devices you have used. Reporting dosemeter limit of 100 mSv, when the dose is actually a factor of 1000's higher–whoever made THAT decision should be charged criminally!! To start with….

  • And we don't like scientists lying.

    30 Ways The Nuclear Industry Deceives Everyone; via @AGreenRoad
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/primer-in-art-of-deception-cult-of.html

    A Primer In The Art Of Deception; via @AGreenRoad
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/primer-in-art-of-deception-cult-of.html

  • markww markww

    ABOUT TIME Scientists causing panic in public This better wake people up as to the cover up for the last 2 years. Maybe this will get Hillary and the Canadian Prime minister to finally come out that they covered up everything.

    Markww

    • norbu norbu

      markww, Hi you said,"Maybe this will get Hillary and the Canadian Prime minister to finally come out that they covered up everything."
      Dont hold your breath, We need you here.
      N

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      I never has sexual relations with that women and by the way has anyone seen my lawyer Vince?

  • weeman

    Question to the wise, what are the size of radioactive isotopes are they bigger than a water molucle, I am sure they are of different masses and is it possible to capture them in a semi permeable membrane or should we be studying the possibility.
    I presume that trillium etc would not be captured?
    Never give up.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      “…Tritium is a radioactive isotope of hydrogen. Ordinary hydrogen is made up of one proton and one electron. It is the lightest and most common element in the universe, and, of course, one of the two elements in water. When exposed to radiation, as in a nuclear plant, some hydrogen becomes tritium, consisting of one proton, two neutrons, and an electron. This arrangement is unstable and will eventually decay into helium, releasing beta radiation. Beta radiation is essentially high-powered electrons. Tritium has a half life of about 12.3 years, meaning that if you put 1000 atoms of tritium in a jar and wait 12.3 years you will have 500 atoms of tritium. 500 will have decayed. Another 12.3 years and you will have 250. The rule of thumb for radioactive materials is that they need to sit around for 10 to 20 half-lives (120-240 years in the case of tritium) before they are safe.
      “I have read that research indicates no safe threshold for tritium. There are a few unpleasant problems with the stuff. Being an isotope of hydrogen, it is part of water molecules themselves. This means it can’t be filtered out of water by any practical means. If it is ingested in water it clears out of the human body in about 10 days, as long as that human body doesn’t drink more tritium-laced water. However, if it is ingested by humans in food it can integrate itself into our tissues and remain for ten years, quietly bombarding us from the inside.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        [cont.]
        It can lodge in our DNA, damaging the genetic code all around it. Its ability to insinuate itself into our systems has caused researchers at Lawrence Livermore Laboratory to assign it an RBE (radiobiological effectiveness) ratio of 1.5 to 5 times that of other radioactive materials. That means that given the same ppl, tritium will cause 2 to 5 times the actual damage of something emitting gamma radiation or x-rays.

        “Tritium causes all the usual radiological effects: cancer, genetic defects, cell death, birth defects, and loss of fertility….”
        http://www.minorheresies.com/posts/2010/1/21/tritium-leak-at-vermont-yankee.html

        • jec jec

          It not just Fukushima…Tritium is released during 'venting' at our local nuclear Plant, nine miles away from where we live. I have just obtained a dosimeter, software, and permission to log to an internet site. We will see what it looks like, Anne. Concerned people should get similar hardware and do the same. It does not remove any danger, but keeps people aware.

          • weeman

            I read that the nuclear plants in the USA use 80% of the surface water and goes through reactors to cool and is contaminated with trillium and in the future they will have to build new reactors by ocean as trillium levels continue to rise in potable water.
            How do you flush the trillium from your body if you continue to drink trillium laced water, you don't.

      • Jebus Jebus

        "Tritium has a half life of about 12.3 years, meaning that if you put 1000 atoms of tritium in a jar and wait 12.3 years you will have 500 atoms of tritium. 500 will have decayed. Another 12.3 years and you will have 250. The rule of thumb for radioactive materials is that they need to sit around for 10 to 20 half-lives (120-240 years in the case of tritium) before they are safe."

        I have to add to that with, if the radioactive unstable isotope creates a daughter unstable isotope, by decay, you have to add the sum of each successive daughter half life chains to the end result of that decay chain being safe(?)

  • many moons

    It looks very close to California, it looks like it will reach the coast BEFORE the end of the year….considering the distance it has made in the last 29 months.

  • Sol Man

    Lie, or choose to tell the truth, but time will show that because of greed that in the end there is nothing that can be done to change a collective fate. The lies and fiat payments of the branded-ones were too heavy to overcome.
    Now return to your regularly scheduled programming.

    • combomelt combomelt

      THERE ARE NO SOLUTIONS
      SCIENTISTS DENY AND MITIGATE

      IT IS TOO LATE
      EAT SUSHI OR DON'T EAT SUSHI, IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE
      COUNT THE DISINTEGRATIONS OR DONT
      HIDE IN A CAVE OR DONT

      THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE

      #4 WILL SINK AND COLLAPSE
      THE SFP WILL GIVE UP ITS GHOSTS

      SPREAD COMPASSION AND LOVE
      THAT IS ALL THATS LEFT

      PEACE

  • ftlt

    This article begs the question, what is science???

    We know it can be bought and paid for…

    Is that science???

    Who is Dr. Henrieta Dulaiova

    http://www.whoi.edu/cms/files/hdulaiova/2006/10/resume_henrieta_14804.pdf

    Looks like she has the nukie background –

    Does that speak to her agenda??? One never knows.. I certainly don't know…

    I have been and remain some what suspicious of the concentrated 1st wave of radioactive particles thinking on here…

    I do think the long term health problems are massive though and it troubles me that the article quote just "scientists" here – """the Chinese scientific journal are simply wrong and that the health risks to residents on the West Coast and Hawaii are somewhere between minuscule and non-existent""" – was this our Dr. Henrieta Dulaiova speaking – not clear??????

    I was waiting for Hawaii to report… Let's see if we get anymore to counter this…

    Remember, the reported plume is there in Hawaii now…

    A poor Huffington article… And also remember, the Huff as a checkered and colored past…

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    No problem, just move off the west coast. Or better yet, move to southern Hemisphere, nuclear nerds haven't ruined that part of the planet, yet.

    • combomelt combomelt

      who are you kidding? You know better than that bs advice! cmon, get your ducks in a row, YOU ARE WAY MORE OBJECTIVE THAN THAT LAST MISLEADING STATEMENT!

  • razzz razzz

    The black substances is 'black rain' or simply fallout. Won't disappear, has to decay away all the while blowing around and getting relocated in nature by wind, rain, water, waves, plant life, animals, etc. Admitting to it would confirm what happened during the explosions at Units 1,3&4.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fallout

  • rockyourworld

    imagine they expose animals to the same cancerous, murderous crap in labs by force. just like what theyre doing to us, except were not forced to live a cage or tank!

  • mungo mungo

    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific
    Fukushima water leak risk exaggerated, says Japan watchdog
    The chief of Japan's nuclear watchdog chided the operator of the Fukushima plant on Thursday for its inability to explain problems properly, which he said was inflating fears around the world.

  • Mack Mack

    A few noteworthy items from the NuclearHotseat interview of Beverly Findlay-Kaneko:

    * 'Takashi Hirose' measured radiation levels inside Japan's "hot zone" and found them to be "many, many factors above" the worst places in Chernobyl

    * "DAYS JAPAN" magazine spreading awareness of the meltdowns:

    http://www.daysjapan.net/e/ad/index.html

    * Mainstream media in Japan initially tried to black everything out; now they report a little more but it's mostly repeated from Tepco's press conferences

    * Japan officials trying to evict protestors in tents and brought suit against 2 men charging them $$ for occupying.

    * Every Friday is the big day of the demonstrations against nuclear energy every week

    * "Ultra Right Wingers" harrass the protestors

    * "The Peach Grove" in Fukushima has an incinerator right in the middle of the peach orchards, and posted radiation levels, but when tested with husband's geiger counter, it was twice the radiation.

    http://www.nuclearhotseat.com/116-japan-fukushima-29-months-wbeverly-findlay-kaneko/

    Much more "real-life" in Japan revelations in the interview.

    All Nuclearhotseat interviews are worth listening to.

  • We Not They Finally

    Remember Julius feiffer the cartoonist who had a book that used the phrase black specks are good for you? Now its black fungus is good for you…

  • teamplayer

    So, I guess if your house is on fire no one should alert you, because you might "panic."

  • SusanS

    ☢ Fukushima Petitions to Sign & Share! ☢ Japan Needs Worldwide Help NOW! ☢

    http://tinyurl.com/FixFuku

    ☢ ☢ ☢ ☢ ☢ ☢ ☢ ☢ ☢ ☢ ☢ ☢ ☢

  • shamwow shamwow

    Hugo Chavez said something to the effect that we treat the earth as if we had another planet to go to. It is all about greed and the idea that we can live in a world with unlimited energy resources and will go to any length no matter what the consequence to produce it. A world we can endlessly exploit and contaminate. Till we can't anymore.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Wow, missed this whole thread.

    I agree with Henrieta Dulaiova. I just hate back seat drivers. Man, I would much rather not be warned if an accident is immenent. I hate it when people point out that my blinker is still on, I am about to run the vehicle off a cliff, or into a tree, or something.

    I would much rather just die than worry about all that shit.

    C'mon, Henrieta! Let's you and me go for a driiiiiiiive!!

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    No, seriously, have the Japanese invented nano tech radiation? Is this payback for Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Makes me wonder.