Reporters in Japan write about rise in birth defects for 2011 — University won’t publish data on malformed babies after many years of doing so; Not releasing figures for Fukushima, other prefectures — Expert: This is ridiculous

Published: September 26th, 2013 at 11:30 pm ET


Title: The Fukushima Generation: New Data on Birth Defects in Post-Meltdown Japan
Source: Daily Beast
Author: Jake Adelstein, Nathalie Kyoko Stucky
Date: Sept. 26, 2013
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The Daily Beast recently obtained unpublished data on birth defects in Japan, which showed a small increase in prevalence rates for 2011 […] The university that conducted the study will not release regional figures. However, several nuclear experts in and outside of the country assert that Japan needs to seriously measure the health impact of its nuclear problems, including birth defects, “with not just annual data but monthly data and broken down by prefecture.”

[…] Yokohama City University […] has been doing studies of birth defects in Japan for over a decade. The 2011 Report on Congenital Malformations notes the prevalence of malformed infants as 2.43 percent, the highest figure since 1999 (1.48 percent). However, the figures for 2010 were 2.31 percent, indicating only a small increase between 2010 and 2011. […]

Since 1999, the Yokohama City University has been releasing the statistical report regularly around the month of May, but did not publish the data this year. After repeated requests, it finally provided the 2011 data, which is still currently unavailable to the public.

The university, while releasing the total figures, would not release prefecture-by-prefecture data. […]

The Japanese government has a past history of censoring negative information about health damage caused by corporate malfeasance […] the central government even worked with the polluting corporations to minimize evidence showing the cause and range of the illness […]

Comments regarding the 2011 data:

  • Dr. Fumiki Hirahara, in charge of compiling the above data: “It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to try to compare the prefectural data. There is no meaningful increase in in birth defects since 2011, in my opinion.”
  • Dr. Ian Fairlie, British radiation expert: “What would be needed is monthly, not just annual data and broken down by Prefecture.”
  • Dr. Robert Peter Gale: “The rate of roughly 2.5 percent is lower than the normal prevalence which is 5 to 10 percent. Also, the types of abnormalities reported are not those associated with radiation exposures. The bottom line is there is no convincing evidence of increased birth defects.” [More of Gale’s thoughts on the subject here: [intlink id=”professor-do-not-examine-fukushima-children-because-it%e2%80%99s-likely-to-cause-harm-abnormalities-would-be-found-leading-to-unnecessary-tests-risk-of-getting-cancer-to-rise-0-001-fo” type=”post”]{{empty}}[/intlink]]
  • Alexey V. Yablokov, Biologist & member of Russian Academy of Scientists: “The Japanese government is not trustworthy when it comes to releasing information about Fukushima, which is Japan’s Chernobyl. The assertion that prefecture specific data would not be useful is ridiculous … A real national comparative study needs to be conducted.”

From August 2013: Hospital aborted babies with birth defects […] cases involved babies with Down syndrome or other chromosomal disorders [and] conditions in which fluid accumulates in their abdomen or chests […] law does not allow abortions on the grounds of genetic defects –NHK World

Published: September 26th, 2013 at 11:30 pm ET


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75 comments to Reporters in Japan write about rise in birth defects for 2011 — University won’t publish data on malformed babies after many years of doing so; Not releasing figures for Fukushima, other prefectures — Expert: This is ridiculous

  • or-well

    There will NEVER be an accurate official accounting.

    From those aborted when discovered as malformed, from those whisked away at birth and then recorded as "stillborn", from numbers simply not recorded to numbers quietly altered, to documents and hard-drives burned and people meeting accidents, this can not only be buried but in an a priori manner made to not exist in the first place.

    This particular aspect of the truth will never be precisely known, but enough truth IS known to know there will be radiation-induced birth defects as there have been since the nuclear age began.
    It is desirable but not necessary to know exactly how many defects occur in the years to come. It is KNOWN they will happen and WHY they will happen.
    ENOUGH is KNOWN, NOW, to kill nuclear.
    Putting it sound-bitely, Nukism means death and Nukists are killers. Rephrasing it however you wish won't change anything.

    • dosdos dosdos

      This is precisely why the less than normal statistics are totally useless in judging what Fukushima has done to the unborn Japanese children. They are not allowed to abort, they do everything they can to avoid miscarriage, then they do not bring the child to life at birth, claiming it as stillborn. The records of stillbirth for the last three years are still not being released. It is a tightly guarded state secret, and they allow unpublished data they want to reach the light of day leak out to show that everything is all right and under control.

      • patb2009

        You can't hide a hippo with a hanky.

        Even if they wish to hide this as Stillbirths, or abortion, we will still see a big drop off
        of fertility and reproduction.

        • or-well

          hmmm –
          "You can't hide a hippo with a hanky."
          You can't stop a Nukist with a spanky.
          Best responce to Nukist hanky-panky
          is mass trials and lots of bodies hanging.

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            hey, great lyrics for a Nuke Power Cabal hit song!

            verse two;

            never call a nukie a scumbag or a lackey
            the nsa will tag you for being rude and unruly

            in armored limos the cabal are more than swanky
            their S.S. pals can smoke you with a turn of your car key

            the nukers play tough, and they can get cranky
            they'll keep your money and thyroid in the bankie

            so never trust a nuker, his brain is twisted and skanky
            the safest place to keep them is in a water storage tankie

    • nedlifromvermont

      or … if you like to quote an expert, an atomic insider who was at Lawrence Livermore when Los Alomos was in its hey day, who hounded industry and the regulators when they started covering up the truth and caving to the fat checks from their Wall Street patrons, and who became crazed by the idea that their profits could somehow be tied to the speed of light … SQUARED!!! … John Gofman said it thusly:

      "Nuclear power is random, pre-meditated, mass murder …"

      and that's on a good day, with no China Syndromes underway …

      in which case you drop the "random" and insert "widespread" …

      and that's from a nuclear scientist and medical doctor, who was not listened to, had his funding cut, and who was hounded by the scientific big-money bullies, but who resisted these insults, and who tried to warn us, years ago, before TMI, before Chernobyl, and who died several years before Fukushitty ….

      well, peace …

      • "Random premeditated murder" is the most precisely apt description of the cost-benefit equations used to justify nuclear power that anyone has ever come up with. They figure how many people will die from the amount of radiation NORMALLY released from operations, and rubber-stamp it as "acceptable" compared to the amount of 'trons generated (and of course money made off those 'trons from the people they're dumping on). What a sick and twisted world we live in.

        Japan has long been willing to sacrifice populations and future generations to the national quest for industrial dominance (see: Minamata Disease). The people are carefully taught not to complain, to blame the victims, and to ignore reality altogether when it gets too ugly to bear. China, Russia, the U.S. and certain other nations around the world behave in much the same way, sweeping gross crimes against humanity (in NOT-wartime) under dense rugs of coverup and lies. We want to send our children off to kill and die in wars because some potentate somewhere mass murders their own citizens, while turning a blind eye to so many more political leaders world wide doing the same damned thing in a variety of other, less quick-and-dirty ways.

        Just knowing about it can make you sick unto death. It's like we've finally all gone crazy. Where has the good in people gone?

  • We Not They Finally

    It will go on until the women in Japan are terrified to produce babies, or they simply won't produce babies. There will be sterility factored in too.

    It is also a major disservice to THE ENTIRE WORLD not to release these figures so it is clear the gargantuan harm that is being done from radiation.

    Just read recently that Japan had been losing about 250,000 in population yearly up until Fukushima. Now it is a million yearly. There is obviously a higher death rate. But what proportion of that is still born, unrecorded births, and the like?

    I've lost all respect for the famous Japanese pride. They are killing their own people, yet KEEPING that from their own people too. They have no right.

  • Urban27

    It is rediculous how One bad industry, have influence over University and medicin and media
    Of all coutries in the World – JAPAN – really should have access to all documents on this!!

  • Jebus Jebus

    With all the wonderfull gene sequencing going on looking for causes of the myriad number of bizzare diseases and cancers today, with those darn relational databases of information broken down by individual, that anyone is capable of using, the nuclear medicine machines, allowing the largest corporations to profit from the facts, we get this from "educated professional doctors"?

    “It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to try to compare the prefectural data. There is no meaningful increase in in birth defects since 2011, in my opinion.”

    "Professor: Do not examine Fukushima children for health problems because it’s likely to cause harm — Abnormalities would be found, leading to unnecessary tests"

    Bizzare reversed logic? Oxymoronic…

    Or, yes we can buy a snake on a pole…

    • or-well

      Snake on a pole –
      sounds like a snack!
      err, snake oil salesman,
      medical quack,
      who stabs in the back
      those he should defend
      from nuke health attack.

      • Jebus Jebus

        never given to track
        the source of the attack
        posting the nuclear numbers
        without human regard
        the patients get dumber
        with genes that are marred
        many more waiting, were full
        even on the dock
        now the snake on the pole
        is leaning on the clock

    • or-well

      The things they get away with saying always amaze me. I should be used to it, I guess. I'd like to see these bastards dragged before a court. And that's just for starters.

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Very few have the nerve to speak up.

    • Urban27

      That is tru – very few have the nerve to speak up!
      It is interesting that you can feel all this hesitation about speking/telling your opinion.
      And they call this freedom – when people doesnt even feel free to speak!

  • razzz razzz

    Sounds like Japan is taking a page out of the US playbook.

    I wonder about the lowing of average IQ after radiation exposure to a general population. The body devotes most of its time to repair and maintenance while normal healthy mental activities suffer. It is hard to think clearly when you are always sick or at a disadvantage.

    I can see where the Japanese mothers might gain control of their country, nobody else that cares is in a position to do much about it.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      The lower IQ is for babies whose mothers are exposed to radiation while the baby is still in the womb. There are various studies by doctors in the US, in Sweden after Chernobyl, and the US army. The SAT scores went down for students who were in the womb during atmospheric testing of atomic bombs. The worst hit children in Sweden were those in the mountains at higher elevations. There is a much higher incidence of Down's syndrome babies among mothers of all ages who have exposure to radiation. The damage is done to the unborn fetus and can't be repaired after the baby is born.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        already mental retardation is epidemic, with at least 1 in 50. Retardation alone could easily destroy civilization. With pollution of all kinds everywhere, how can the inevitable be reversed? The Down syndrome person will attempt to care for others with Down, that is the future created by industry run by people with a stunning lack of empathy and understanding.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        The 1983 SAT Scores And Their Link of Nuclear Fallout
        Sternglass, Ernest J.; Bell, Steven
        PUB. DATE
        January 1984
        Phi Delta Kappan;Jan84, Vol. 65 Issue 5, p372
        DOC. TYPE
        “The article focuses on the scholastic aptitude test (SAT) scores in the U.S. It is hypothesized that the principal factor influencing the score decline is the massive amount of iodine-131 produced by nuclear fission during the years of heavy atmospheric testing of nuclear bombs. Iodine-131 is known to concentrate in the thyroid glands of infants, where hormones that control brain development are produced. The U.S., Great Britain, and the Soviet Union signed an atmospheric test-ban treaty in 1963, after which only France and China continued to carry out atmospheric tests.”

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne


        19 The Present Danger
        “THE POTENTIAL EFFECT of the radioactive iodine on thyroid function and mental development was very much on my mind at that moment, since in early September I had presented our findings on the relation between fallout from bomb-tests and declines in the S.A.T. scores at the annual meeting of the American Psychological Association in New York. The likelihood that there would once again be widespread damage to the learning ability of children in areas reached by releases of radioactive fission gases, this time from peaceful nuclear plants either during normal operations or as a result of accidents such as the one at Three Mile Island, was in a way more disturbing than the evidence for rising infant deaths and later cancers.
        The nation could survive if there were a few more infants that died shortly before or after birth. It
        could even survive if there were many more adults who would die of cancer or heart disease at age seventy rather than at eighty. But no nation could survive in the long run if it continuously damaged the mental ability of its newborn children, especially in an age where verbal and mathematical skills were increasingly essential to the functioning of a high-technology society.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

          And since fewer children were being born, and the advances of modern medicine had increased greatly their chances of survival to adulthood even if they were physically and mentally handicapped, it would not take much more than a few generations for a nation with nuclear plants near its cities or sources of milk and water to destroy its health, its productivity, and thus its ability to compete with others who used less biologically damaging ways to meet their needs for energy (p. 139)." [See also pages 108-115]

          pp. 241-242 of
          Secret Fallout: Low Level Radiation from Hiroshima to Three Mile Island (McGraw Hill paperbacks) Paperback

          See also pages 181-195 of book.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        Chernobyl fallout impaired mental development of Swedish infants

        16 August 2007

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        Radiation also damages brain cells outside the womb.

  • harengus_acidophilus

    "Expert: This is ridiculous"

    It isn't just ridiculous, it's a crime!


  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Because Japan shipped radioactive waste all over the country for incineration, there will be a dramatic rise in birth defects all over Japan. Dr. Busby pointed out much earlier that this practice would skew the statistics for a comparison between prefectures.

    The world needs not only the number of deformed babies, but a description of the deformity.

    Because of Japan's practice of killing deformed babies at birth. We will never get these statistics.

    I suspect that this practice is now worldwide in every country. One blogger on from India said that in the first year after 3/11, India lost over 1,000,000 babies.

    The sacrifice of human life for the technology of nuclear energy and weapons makes modern civilization the most degraded civilization in history. Humans are devolving at an exponential rate, not evolving. Truly the destroyer of worlds.

    We will never get the statistics about the deaths worldwide due to nuclear energy and accidents. But population is already declining worldwide.

  • Mack Mack

    Interesting points from an abstract on Fukushima/radiation damage ->

    (1) Here are the 'medicines' that can be used to mitigate radiation damage:

    "Iodine tablets (stable potassium iodide) can be used to prevent the absorption of radioactive iodine such as 131I in the thyroid gland ( Prussian blue can be used to remove 137Cs from the human body by binding to 137Cs. ( Diethylene-triamine-pentaacetic acid (DTPA) is expected to chelate plutonium, removing it through the kidneys"

    (2) "On exposure to ionizing radiation, water, which is makes up more than 60% of the body, is ionized generating reactive oxygen species (ROS), such as hydrated electron (eaq−) and hydrogen radical (•H)."

    NOTE: immediately upon exposure, radicals are produced

    (3) "As many as 100 different DNA modifications have been identified after exposure to ionizing radiation.(4) These include single- and double-strand breaks, base modifications, abasic sites and cross-links. These lesions are primary sites for radiation-induced cell lethality, mutations and malignant transformation. The double-strand breaks in DNA are particularly important to the lethal effect of ionizing radiation."

    (4) see Figure 2 for air-radiation measurements before and after the Fukushima meltdowns

    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      Iodine is a temporary measure. Prolonged use will cause almost as much damage as the radiation in our bodies.

      Moving south may add a few years to our lives, but anyone alive and breathing on or after 3/11 now has lungs full of plutonium particles.

      Good luck to us all.

    • Auntie Nuke

      After I was one mile from Three Mile Island when it happened, and tricked into staying for the first 2-1/2 days, I made the decision not to allow my body to give birth because no one could tell me what had happened to my chromosomes as a result of the exposure. I can tell you that women all over Japan are making the same decision for themselves. They couldn't help it. My heart hurts for them all.

  • Mack Mack

    Check this out:

    "Pregnancy and Birth Survey in Fukushima"


    "The congenital malformations were elevated in babies delivered in Fukushima prefecture."

    "The Prevalence of Congenital Malformations (Fukushima)
    (No. of babies 3294, during 2012.01-2012.08)"

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      I didnt find the quote. I found this one; There is no obvious increased prevalence rate of
      congenital malformations at the present time compared
      with the rate of Birth Defects Monitoring of JAOG

      • Mack Mack

        Edit button: It should be "evaluated" not elevated.

        More stats:

        * The birthrate in Fukushima went from 12,965 in 2010 to 10,685 in 2011.
        * Miscarriage rate before accident went from 10.33 to 11.42 in the 2011.Oct-Dec timeframe.

  • Mack Mack

    (1) A blogger notes birth defects after Fukushima —>

    "These complications include one miscarriage (March, in Yoko), one premature delivery (February, 28 weeks, in Yoko area) , and two severe congenital heart defect children (February (Yoko area) and March, San Diego (child conceived here in Yoko, and spent first two trimesters in Yoko as well.)

    (2) A Japan Times article about a Japanese school administrator —>

    "Some people sent her pictures of babies with birth defects and urged her to leave town and share the photos with the people back home"

    (3) Fukushima Diary

    "2 babies were born with endocardial cushion defect and congenital biliary atresia"

    (4) Fukushima Woman: Many are aborting their babies… It’s really happening — I know many women who were visibly pregnant then suddenly weren’t"

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    India's generation of children crippled by uranium waste
    Observer investigation uncovers link between dramatic rise in birth defects in Punjab and pollution from coal-fired power stations
    29 August 2009
    “…Health workers in the Punjabi cities of Bathinda and Faridkot knew something was terribly wrong when they saw a sharp increase in the number of birth defects, physical and mental abnormalities, and cancers. They suspected that children were being slowly poisoned.
    “But it was only when a visiting scientist arranged for tests to be carried out at a German laboratory that the true nature of their plight became clear. The results were unequivocal. The children had massive levels of uranium in their bodies, in one case more than 60 times the maximum safe limit….
    “But an Observer investigation has now uncovered disturbing evidence to suggest a link between the contamination and the region's coal-fired power stations. It is already known that the fine fly ash produced when coal is burned contains concentrated levels of uranium and a new report published by Russia's leading nuclear research institution warns of an increased radiation hazard to people living near coal-fired thermal power stations….
    “Tests on ground water show that levels of uranium around the plants are up to 15 times the World Health Organisation's maximum safe limits….

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      “They were being born with hydrocephaly, microcephaly, cerebral palsy, Down's syndrome and other complications. Several have already died….
      “Neither was it any surprise when a team of scientists from the Department of Atomic Energy visited the area and concluded that while the concentration of uranium in drinking water was ‘slightly high’, there was ‘nothing to worry’ about. Yet some tests recorded levels of uranium in the ground water as high as 224mcg/l (micrograms per litre) – 15 times higher than the safe level of 15mcg/l recommended by the WHO. (The US Environmental Protection Agency sets a maximum safe level of 20mcg/l.)…
      “There have also been claims that the contamination may have been exacerbated by depleted uranium carried on the wind from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. At a seminar in Amritsar in April, Admiral Vishnu Bhagwat, a former chief of the naval staff, suggested that areas within a 1,000-mile radius of Kabul – including Punjab – may be affected by depleted uranium….
      “Such a concentration of uranium means the lifetime cancer risk in the village was more than 153 times higher than in the normal population….

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Low level radiation and birth deformities
    Uranium Weapons, Low-Level Radiation and Deformed Babies Global by Paul Zimmerman 2 Jan 2010
    “…In contrast, the Chernobyl accident scattered microscopic radioactive particles from the reactor’s core throughout Europe which was then inhaled and ingested by the populace. In this situation, those contaminated began receiving ongoing, low-dose exposure internally….
    “radiation-induced birth defects have been documented in populations receiving low doses of internal contamination….
    “In the book Chernobyl: 20 Years On, a chapter is devoted to discussing the birth defects in children who, while gestating in the wombs of their mothers, were exposed to radioactivity released by the Chernobyl reactor [3]. The author provides an overview of dozens of studies which confirm that low levels of radiation present in many areas of Europe after Chernobyl were responsible for a wide variety of birth defects.
    “These birth defects occurred where radiation exposure was judged by the radiation protection agencies to be too low to warrant concern. Fifteen studies were cited which demonstrated an increase in the incidence of a wide variety of congenital malformations. Other studies cited confirmed increases in the rate of stillbirths, infant deaths, spontaneous abortions, and low birthweight babies.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      “An elevated incidence of Down’s syndrome was also documented. In addition, an excess of a variety of other health defects were detected which included mental retardation and other mental disorders, diseases of the respiratory and circulatory systems, and asthma….
      “In a separate chapter of the same book, Alexey Yablokov of the Russian Academy of Sciences provided a review of the extensive body of research conducted after Chernobyl. Regarding studies on birth defects, he cited an increased frequency of a number of congenital malformations which included cleft lip and/or palate (“hare lip”), doubling of the kidneys, polydactyly (extra fingers or toes), anomalies in the development of nervous and blood systems, amelia (limb reduction defects), anencephaly (defective development of the brain), spina bifida (incomplete closure of the spinal column), Down’s syndrome, abnormal openings in the esophagus and anus, and multiple malformations occurring simultaneously [4]….
      “In individuals exposed to ionizing radiation, peripheral lymphocytes, those lymphocytes which circulate in the blood, have an elevated occurrence of certain types of misshapen chromosomes [3,5]. Of particular interest are dicentric chromosomes which are produced when radiation breaks both strands of the DNA double helix in two neighboring chromosomes and the genetic material is then misrepaired.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      “An increase in the relative frequency of these aberrantly shaped structures serve as a biological indicator of radiation exposure which is immune to lies and political propaganda. More specifically, the increased rate of these aberrations is proportional to the dose of radiation received. Thus, their frequency can be used to determine the true level of exposure in contaminated individuals….
      “When combining the studies of chromosome aberrations with the studies of birth defects, the science speaks for itself: the population in many areas of Europe received much higher doses from Chernobyl than claimed and birth defects were induced by much smaller doses than suggested by current radiation protection science.3….
      “Other types of chromosome studies have been performed which demonstrate that radiation in the environment is producing damage to DNA that is being passed on to offspring….
      “numerous in vitro and in vivo studies conducted in the last twenty years have proven that uranium is genotoxic (capable of damaging DNA), cytotoxic (poisonous to cells), and mutagenic (capable of inducing mutations) [27]. These effects are produced either by uranium’s radioactivity or its chemistry or a synergistic interaction between the two….”

      • nedlifromvermont

        Thank you, Anne, for your dogged pursuit of the truth …

        You mustn't leave out 'teratogenesis:' "the production of monsters or monstrous growths" …

        Lovely (sarc.) …

        peace …

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Horrifying birth defects reported in children of Fallujah, Basra
    Subodh Varma, TNN Oct 16, 2012
    “…In Fallujah, which saw two intense rounds of bombing by US air force and door to door fighting in 2004, more than half of all babies surveyed were born with a birth defect between 2007 and 2010, the study reported. Pre-war rates were about 10 percent. Miscarriage rates shot up to over 45 percent of all pregnancies surveyed in the two years after the 2004 bombing, up from only 10 percent before the bombing. Between 2007 and 2010, one in six of all pregnancies ended in miscarriage….”

  • Sol Man

    The greatness of a people can be measured in how it treats the world's babies. Some have devolved to an significantly low state of humanity.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Until the rates for miscarriage and still birth, and medically suggested abortion are added in…this is inadequate data.

  • I would have thought that many wouldn't have the urge to procreate thru 2011, burying the dead and relocating, etc… The statistics of this year onward are going to be much more telling.

  • AntonButler

    God has abandoned man to his nuclear genocide,
    after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
    One thing is clear ,
    mans future will have more murder
    than mans past, due to nuclear power plants
    and nuclear weapons.
    Only a fool would believe that nuclear weapons
    will not be used again.
    Israel has to get even against the Germans,
    and the Japanese have to get even against the USA.
    An eye for an eye, ……

  • pkjn

    The Fukushima Generation: New Data on Birth Defects in Post-Meltdown Japan
    Sep 26, 2013 Daily Beast
    The government of Fukushima announced in late August the results of an ongoing study on the impact of radiation on children under 18 who were living in Fukushima at the time of the accident. Of the roughly 360,000 children, there were 44 suspected cases of thyroid cancer. Radioactive substances released during an accident and afterwards can accumulate in children’s thyroid glands, which increases the risk of developing cancer. In the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear disaster, thyroid cancers cases started to show up after four to five years after the accident.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      even one lovely child, killed by thyroid cancer, bleeding out, or dropping from heart attack is not worth the risk of nuclear. How many species thrive without nuclear, and how long did man exist without it? How long will we exist with it? These are simple concepts a child can understand, why not nuclear engineers and pro nukers who apparently rule the world? Nuclear is not dead, they keep building plants

  • rockyourworld

    the children are why they build more nuke plants worldwide. the children like their toys and devices. they like the junk made for them worldwide. if people stopped having children when they had easy access to birth control, we wouldnt be in this mess today. we control the pet population, but not ours. for shame!

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      Actually, populations worldwide are now declining. Nuke energy plants are not built for the children, but to manufacture Plutonium.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      Irony with saying nuclear is for children's toys is that is the least energy use imaginable, but often cited by pro nukes as something that would come to a halt without nuclear. Nuclear is for some war industrialists to make big wads of money, and to employ engineers who shouldnt be allowed licenses for shameful lack of common sense and danger to the people and ecosystem. I think third world populations are increasing, while Western Europe and the U.S. non hispanic population is in decline. The vector is toward a world leveled to a second and third world status. This wont hurt the elite, since the public are essentially serfs, worldwide

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Its always those that are alive that want to kill those that are yet to arrive..

    How little they know that they too could have a been a those..

  • rockyourworld

    too bad for the animals, humans messed it up for them big time, coming and going.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Humans have been taught to mess it up big time…its all about the education one receives.

    This is taught Chaos…..

    • MichaelV MichaelV

      Rock and Obe,

      You both may be right…

      Consider there had been no dark ages; humanity instead had flourished. We may have better used science and technology to gain a better understanding of the cosmos.

      I'm thinking of a unified theory, ion drives, or interstellar travel. The life span of the stars is finite and IMO somewhere out there exists an advanced civilization that hasn't destroyed itself.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Yes, that would be the goal and yes there are plenty of civilizations out there that have not destroyed themselves. Hawking predicts a minimum of 10,000 each and I am thinking more around 1 billion.

    We still have a long way to go..

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      humans, especially the males, are barbarians, and not very smart either. Plus theyre full of themselves. Megalomaniacs. They dont belong in any galactic federation

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    I don't think I have ever run into a female megalomaniac..they usually run me over.
    megalomaniac |ˌmegəlōˈmānēˌak|
    a person who is obsessed with their own power.
    • a person who suffers delusions of their own power or importance.
    exhibiting megalomania.
    megalomaniacal |-məˈnīəkəl| |ˈˈmɛg(ə)ləməˈnaɪəkəl| |-məˈnʌɪək(ə)l|

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    I am pretty sure thats how they (females) got that slang name that somehow revolves around a type of popular animal/pet..