Rolling Stone: “Mass release of floating radioactive particles in metro St. Louis” possible from inferno at landfill? Fire “smells like dead bodies” — 8,700 tons of nuclear waste nearby

Published: May 13th, 2013 at 9:39 am ET


Title: St. Louis Landfill Fire
Source: Rolling Stone
Author: Steven Hsieh
Date: May 10, 2013

An underground landfill fire near tons of nuclear waste raises serious health and safety concerns – so why isn’t the government doing more to help?

[…] It’s invisible to area residents, buried deep beneath the ground in a North St. Louis County landfill. […] “It smells like dead bodies,” observes another local.

[…] “Am I going to end up with cancer 20 years down the road?” […]

The Bridgeton landfill fire is burning close to at least 8,700 tons of nuclear weapons wastes. […]

About 1,200 feet south of the radioactive EPA site, the fire at Bridgeton Landfill spreads out like hot barbeque coals. No one knows for sure what happens when an underground inferno meets a pool of atomic waste, but residents aren’t eager to find out. […]

At a March 15th press conference, Peter Anderson – an economist who has studied landfills for over 20 years – raised the worst-case scenario of a “dirty bomb,” meaning a non-detonated, mass release of floating radioactive particles in metro St. Louis. “Now, to be clear, a dirty bomb is not nuclear fission, it’s not an atomic bomb, it’s not a weapon of mass destruction,” Anderson assured meeting attendants in Bridgeton’s Machinists Union Hall. “But the dispersal of that radioactive material in air that could reach – depending upon weather conditions – as far as 10 miles from the site could make it impossible to have economic activity continue.” […]

Robert Criss, a geochemist at Washington University in St. Louis who has studied the issue closely, says the EPA is grossly underplaying a host of risks surrounding West Lake – flooding, earthquakes, liquefaction, groundwater leaching – that could pave the way for a public health crisis. That’s not to mention the recent development of an underground fire nearby. Says Criss, “There is no geological site I can think of that is more absurd to place such waste.” […]

Full report here

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Published: May 13th, 2013 at 9:39 am ET


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54 comments to Rolling Stone: “Mass release of floating radioactive particles in metro St. Louis” possible from inferno at landfill? Fire “smells like dead bodies” — 8,700 tons of nuclear waste nearby

  • "“But the dispersal of that radioactive material in air that could reach – depending upon weather conditions – as far as 10 miles from the site could make it impossible to have economic activity continue.”

    There's a recurring meme here that needs to be emphasized, from the mouth of an economist. All considerations of public health are subsumed to the increasingly desperate goal of having economic growth continue, at all costs, including human life. In this country, economic growth supercedes everthing else; people be damned.

  • markww markww


    They can be put out with CO-2 or Nitrogen gas injection into the burning dump.


  • harengus_acidophilus

    Just a case of sight …

    > “Now, to be clear, a dirty bomb is not nuclear fission,
    > it’s not an atomic bomb, it’s not a weapon of mass destruction,”

    "It's comparable to a close encounter with a nurse inside a running computer tomograph during a transatlantic flight.
    No matter of concern, just 'kid stuff'!"

    Or a "weapon of mass killing" …


    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Who said it's not a "weapon of mass destruction?" Just because it isn't sitting in the form of a nuke bomb doesn't mean it's not a WMD. If a pressure cooker bomb can be a WMD, a cooking, seething pile of nuclear waste burning off into the atmosphere and leaching into groundwater certainly could be.

      Oh, but you could never get TPTB to admit that one, it's a bit too much reality for them to swallow.

      It's really irritating to see the EPA isn't doing its job at all in these larger cities with nuclear hazards occurring all the time. The "P" needs to be taken out of the EPA, because it isn't P'ing anything except special interests and nuclear stakeholders.

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        harengus, I'm not arguing with you, BTW. It's just the definition of the term WMD is so absurd in this case I just had to comment on it.

        Oh, I forgot, the idea is "atoms for peace." Yeah, that's it.

  • Time Is Short Time Is Short

    “Am I going to end up with cancer 20 years down the road?”

    Yes, a large percentage of us are, those that don't die of any other radiation-induced sickness, or from the violence when the world's economies all explode, which is coming soon – on purpose and carefully planned.

    And when millions of Americans do come down with horrible radiation-induced cancers, not only will there be less medical care available, thanks to Obamacare, after the financial crash no one will be able to afford any cancer relief drugs, because Obamacare carefully left those out of 'mandated' coverage:

    "Cancer patients could face high costs for medications under President Barack Obama's health care law, industry analysts and advocates warn."

    "To try to keep premiums low, some states are allowing insurers to charge patients a hefty share of the cost for expensive medications used to treat cancer, multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis and other life-altering chronic diseases."

    Your government works for the .001%, not you. They don't care if you or your family dies a horrible death, as long as the .001% get richer.

    The Road is just around the corner.

    • Baha 2012 Baha 2012

      I agree totally to all of what you say here … and double agree that "Time is short"

    • amberlight amberlight

      And for those of us who use alternative (non-allopathic) medicine, the global elitists are making it increasingly difficult and more costly to obtain the treatments of our choice. Even gathering my own herbs has become dicey, thanks to the entire west coast being bathed in that special Fukushima "glow."

      There is indeed a method to their madness…

    • Wreedles Wreedles

      Yes, indeed.

      If you were breathing in 2011, consider yourself very fortunate if you live as long as your parents did.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      We had all better study up on herbal wisdom, because that may be all we have left to us. If it is allowed, that is. If the herb sniffers start coming around our private home gardens, we may not even have that option left, some day.

      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        The restrictions on seeds and home gardening have already started in Europe:

        'New EU Regulation Threatens Rare Seed Varieties, Agricultural Independence And Food Supply Resilience In Europe'

        And don't forget the tax on rain water:

        'Be prepared to pay the government for the rain on your roof'

        Which is only until water is declared a 'food product', and we will all have to pay through the teeth for it:

        'Nestle CEO: Water Is Not A Human Right, Should Be Privatized'

        There's a reason Monsanto is working closely with the company formerly known as Blackwater:

        'Blackwater's Black Ops

        Internal documents reveal the firm's clandestine work for multinationals and governments.'

        "One of the most incendiary details in the documents is that Blackwater, through Total Intelligence, sought to become the "intel arm" of Monsanto, offering to provide operatives to infiltrate activist groups organizing against the multinational biotech firm."

          • We Not They Finally

            Any alliance between Monsanto and Blackwater is EXTREMELY SCARY. Concur. But at least in Europe, they are kicking Monsanto OUT. The U.S. public is so dumbed down, they don't even seem to know the difference.

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          TIS, a lot of the local water agencies are meeting with local groups to try to promote taxation of private well water as a good idea, here in California. They want to put meters on everyone's private wells.

          Private property rights? Foggeddaboudit.

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            Oh, and TIS, forgot to mention, the restriction on seed ownership is likely part of Codex Alimentarius. Due to unforseen cincumstances, TPTB are a bit late in implementing it in the U.S. It was originally planned for implementation here in 2009. A bad idea if there ever was one, IMHO.

            Brought to you by the same people who want to implement Agenda 21.

            Thank you, U.N., for another one of your lovely ideas. Codex Alimentarius fits hand-in-glove with Agenda 21.

        • Ourself Ourself

          They're trying to make the rain water tax national now? It's been in effect in Maryland for some time already. In MD, it is also illegal to collect rain water. The state claims they own it.

    • We Not They Finally

      We haven't a clue where you get your info about Obamacare, which has NOT EVEN GONE INTO EFFECT, except for the likes of sick children who could not get coverage previously. Where DO you get your information? Matt Drudge? What would be great is ACCURATE info, not propaganda. We have enough real problems.

      • We Not They Finally

        O.k., TIS. Just noticed that your source is Fox News. Who needs any other explanation?

        • Time Is Short Time Is Short

          'Insurers predict 100%-400% Obamacare rate explosion'

          This is going to kill health care in this country, and drive most of what's left of the middle class into poverty. All done on purpose.

          Just because the liberal news sites don't report on the dangerous consequences of Obambacare, WNTF, doesn't mean they don't exist.

          It was the conservative news sites that are reporting on the preventable killing and coverup of our Ambassador in Benghazi, the IRS blatantly ignoring the law in singling out conservative groups for tax audits (and much worse), and the DOJ violating the First Amendment to capture data from the Associated Press, which should all scare the hell out of everyone, including you.

          'Why Liberals Should be Outraged that the IRS Targeted Conservatives'

          "The targeting of conservatives under a Democratic administration could switch to a targeting of liberals under a subsequent Republican administration.

          Congressman Mike Rogers is correct when he says:

          I don't care if you're a conservative, a liberal, a Democrat or a Republican, this should send a chill up your spine."

          • Time Is Short Time Is Short

            "Those who assume that the Tea Party is made up of a bunch of crazies may be interested in learning that – despite the divide-and-conquer tricks that the mainstream media peddles – the Occupy movement and the Tea Party were originally protesting the exact same things: the malignant, symbiotic relationship between big government and big corporations, and the destruction to our economy caused by the unchecked power of the Federal Reserve."


            There is only the .001%, and the rest of us:

            "The Illuminati Were Amateurs" – Matt Taibbi Explains How "Everything Is Rigged"

            "Conspiracy theorists of the world, believers in the hidden hands of the Rothschilds and the Masons and the Illuminati, we skeptics owe you an apology. You were right. The players may be a little different, but your basic premise is correct: The world is a rigged game. We found this out in recent months, when a series of related corruption stories spilled out of the financial sector, suggesting the world's largest banks may be fixing the prices of, well, just about everything."


            For those that want to know who is truly behind the monster of nuclear power, and our impending extinction.

    • Ourself Ourself

      Perhaps this is bitter of me, but I would rather see the human species go extinct than let these new world order tyrants get the 'paradise' they've been working to manifest.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "Radioactive fracking debris triggers worries at dump sites
    May 12 2013 is South Huntington,Penn.00d2f4

    "Between 2009 and 2012, radiation alarms went off 1,325 times in 2012, with more than 1,000 of those alerts just from oil and gas waste, according to data from the Department of Environmental Protection."
    "The state's landfills have to one day be fit for people to live on after they close, so the state has to make sure they aren't allowing a dangerous build-up of radioactivity, officials said."

    "The state began requiring radiation monitors at landfills in 2002 because of medical waste. But oil and gas waste — which brings up naturally occurring radiation formerly locked a mile or so underground — has become an increasing concern."

    “smells like dead bodies”

  • enoughalready45 enoughalready45

    Whenever I read that some radiation exposure risk "is not like a dirty bomb." I know that the exposure risk is being downplayed. I just happened to write the text below for something else I was replying to via but I think it is helpful here.

    • enoughalready45 enoughalready45

      “It is the cumulative impact of radiation that is the problem, not the measurement of radiation at any given time.” (not from the article it was a statement from someone that I was replying to)

      I think this statement could cause some confusion among people wondering about the impact of radiation exposure on their health and the environment.


    • The facts are… dirty bombs are waste from nuclear plants packed around conventional explosives.

      nuclear bombs… 20+ isotopes. Expended, relatively short half-life.
      Nuclear reactors… 200+ isotopes Non-expended, centuries long half-life.

      radioactive contents half-lives break-down to things with often longer half-life, and worse radioactive outputs. FACTS !

      The short half-life issue is a NUKE-SHILL SCAM !!

  • enoughalready45 enoughalready45

    Here is the problem. When you emphasize “cumulative” it implies that there is some radiation measurement that is totally safe to be below as if repeated smaller exposures have to add up to some magic number of exposures before they cause harm, which is not the case. In an article by Dr. Helen Caldicott she states, “as the US National Academy of Sciences BEIR VII report has concluded, no dose of radiation is safe, however small, including background radiation;” (link to article is below) While an accumulation of exposures to radiation can cause more and more damage to a body making it more likely to get cancer what is key to understand is that any one exposure can cause the damage that jump starts a cancer. Additionally everyone focuses on cancer while there are other health problems associated with radiation exposures that are generally overlooked. So for one person it may be their 100th radiation exposure that starts a cancer growing and for another it may be only their 3rd radiation exposure that causes cancer or some other health problem. What type of radiation a person is exposed to, how long they are exposed to it, if it is an internal or external exposure, the general health of the person, their age and their gender, as well as their overall cumulative exposure over their lifetime ALL factor into how any one exposure may impact one person as compared to another person.

  • Well said, enoughalready45. I recently had a doctor tell me that it is not the accumulated dose that is the problem, but the individual dose at any one time. I don't agree with him, and I don't want to take the chance. He wanted me to have what I considered an unnecessary x-ray, and I already have had 60 years of teeth xrays from my dentist. I don't need more if I can avoid them.

  • combomelt combomelt

    8700 TONS !

    HMM .

    Its hard for most anyone to picture anything resembling that amount of any substance. So how much is 8700 tons anyway?
    Its like…

    A stadium of 130,000 150lb people
    870 ten-ton semi tractor trailers in 87 rows of 10
    Is it like 3 olympic swimmin pools o water?
    You choose

  • combomelt combomelt

    Regardless, thats a f*$#%@loads worth of poison!

  • HoTaters HoTaters

    8,700 tons. Wow, that is a massive amount. It took awhile for that to sink in. The hell it isn't a dirty bomb. My arse.

    • combomelt combomelt

      I apologize. To be clear, the article says "at least" 8700 tons. Whew im glad it wasnt guesstimated at "more than" 8700 tons, that would be gettin crazy.! I couldnt make this s&%$t up if i tried! It takes really evil beliefs and blind obedient dedication to say the things being said by the heads

  • combomelt combomelt

    Staggering amount.
    And WHAT IS IT?

  • irhologram

    "…it’s not an atomic bomb, it’s not a weapon of mass destruction,” Anderson assured. I nearly choked on that one. It's only a WMD if its overseas? It would shut down commerce? And that's the worry! Given the amount of waste, the fact that it would be airborne…wouldn't that mean some would die fairly quickly, within months? or days? Or hours, given the circumstances? ..and not 20 years down the road… Because It wouldn't be a small exposure… And exactly what are the radioactive particles in nuclear weapons "waste"? (Now there's an oxymoron.) How many communities would be affected, ten miles from ground zero…meaning a 20 mile radius?

  • combomelt combomelt

    They stated in the full article there is …..

    142,000 cubic yards of nuke waste=8700 tons

    142,000 cubic yards =3,834,000 US gallons
    Multiply by roughly 8.34 and u get
    31,975,560 pounds.
    Which is 14,275 tons of plain water.

    Do i need to ad barrels for storage or plastic bags to the weight? Maybe my math is wrong. Is it solid waste? Somethings not right. Help!

  • We Not They Finally

    We had read that St. Louis was highly radioactive compared to other cities in the U.S. Wonder if this is the cause.

  • captndano captndano

    You've got to wonder; out of the 30+ countries that have nuclear power plants, would you think that these types of nuclear waste disasters are going on all over the planet? Unless it's a significant disaster like Fukushima, unless it's in our own back yard, we never hear about them….