Published: December 13th, 2011 at 12:33 pm ET
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IAEA Project To Monitor Radioactive Substances In Pacific Ocean Region, RTT Global Financial Newswires, Dec. 13, 2011:
- The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) is implementing a Technical Cooperation (TC) Project for countries throughout the Pacific Ocean region to monitor radioactive substances
- Twenty-one IAEA Member-States and three non-member States are participating in the project
- The first project meeting was held in Australia in August
- Followed by a workshop [...] in Monaco last month
- Considerable volumes of radioactive contaminated water entered and polluted the Pacific Ocean
- It raised concern among countries in the Pacific region that radiation releases may reach and damage coastal zones with possible consequences for communities and economies
[Some] countries participating in the project are Australia, Bangladesh, China, India, Indonesia, Japan, Republic of Korea, Malaysia, Mongolia, Myanmar, New Zealand, Pakistan, Philippines, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Thailand and Vietnam.
Published: December 13th, 2011 at 12:33 pm ET
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I miss Occiferdave……
Hope you are well, my brother.
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where’s dave?
i hope he’s well too.
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ditto.. wondering if he has landed in a safer place.. hope so.
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Me too. Is he in Puerto Rico yet?
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Me 3. Check in OD when you can!
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Ditto times 10-4 on OD.
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+5, I hope he enjoys his enjoying himself.
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Duh…edit button. I have fat fingers.
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What are the fishing based cultures and economies in the world worth?
They have effectively destroyed out planet!
We could do with that alien invasion right about……NOW!
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“And I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords”
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Too funny, farawayfan. Lol.
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I hope they eat all the GMO’s. The embedded insecticide will end their days on this earth!
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LOL.
Collaborator!
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We know all about IAEA ‘monitoring’ now don’t we?
I notice Canada is missing from that list. Hmm, workshop in Monaco anyone?
We should rename ourselves the WHO-IAEA Oversight Committee and get public funding for a conference in … the Bahamas, say. Workshop in the Cayman Islands; bring your shorts.
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“May damage”? Talk about wishfull thinking….
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They SHOULD be worried..unlike many countries on continents, smaller island ecosystems are much more dependent on rain water, ocean ecosystems, and seas routes for transportation. Many of the Pacific Island chains also share the trade routes and winds passing near Japan. Sadly, air, rain, oceans all have been contaminated. In addition, for those who travel the ocean routes, who DRINK/use rain water, who passage thru ocean currents which have passed near Japan –they also face dangers from Fukushima. So, who is doing something productive…not just talk..taking action to limit spread of radiation and mitigate the disaster??? The silence is deafing….
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To answer: NOBODY IS DOING SQUAT! It’s just disgusting.
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“Nobody Is Doing Squat!”:
Chernobyl contaminated European and Ukranian countries are doing plenty, having raised $750 Mil plus to start construction of the British-inspired ‘sliding arch’ designed to cover the cracked and leaking first and later-augmented Chernobyl sarcophagus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Safe_Confinement
What is disgusting and disheartening is that world nuclear authorities, the lame print-broadcast media, as well as the word-choked blogosphere, all choose to ignore the appalling difference between the massive Chernobyl dome effort, and the do-nothing tepco-japan temperature control charade.
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Hi After confirming with my new geiger counter a 891 cpm approx 45 half life with multiple 10x reading and presence of this isotope every rainfall I encourage jo public if he can afford one to GET A GEIGER COUNTER act locally and get some citizen based monitoring and networking happening NOW. Organize ourselves in the interest of PUBLIC HEALTH. Hope our efforts aren’t thwarted because that WOULD be criminal. Lets give the government the benefit of the doubt for now and see if we can all work together to protect our future.
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Hello bc,
Please check in over on the permanent Citizens Radiation Monitoring Network thread with your readings, photos, or videos of your measurements.
Thanks for encouraging everyone to get a counter. We are growing in number. Maybe not so much in proficiency yet, but never-the-less, we are indeed growing. Give thanks.
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thanks James
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Also, give us periodic reminders of your location along with the readings.
You on the West Coast?
And, maybe explain what 891 CPM means – compare with common benchmarks.
I’m assuming 0 CPM is the safe reading for now, or would that be the brain activity of those purporting to run the planet?
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Hi Whoopie,
Thanks for such courage and commitment. Everyone here with true intentions GOD BLESS YOU ALL!
For those with young children and the means I make 2 suggestions.
Make this Christmas the best one ever. Spoil them like there is no tomorrow.
and second consider a long term plan to relocate from heavily dosed area. Probably the coastal areas.
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you really have to admit we are ALL so collectively STUPID.
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Yes, maybe true, but we are also compassionate enough to understand that “All” were just not taught correctly from the beginning of consciousness and this has been a generational problem of this epoch.
Compassion allows us to pat them on their pointed little heads and say, you were just not taught correctly. It is better to love thy neighbor as you love yourself, than to profit from his suffering. It has always been that simple.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you is the one line written in different ways in EVERY holy history book in EVERY history’s established religions. Even those that do not have at it’s core some sort of deity to center around.
It was really that simple. What happened?
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simply put i guess the devil is working hard to have his way and running out of time. Tic Toc Tic Toc
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Thanks for the reminder, James.
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Well said James.
I think everything is wrapped up in that Golden Rule. We seem to be all connected, in a very real sense, as David Bohm explained to Einstein, and as that fellow from Nazareth tried to explain to the rest of us critters. I also ran into it in my latest university course (Public Relations, Communications Theory), where James Grunig expounds (very eloquently) how companies and organizations that practice the Golden Rule in their commmunications fit the blueprint of what is called an ‘excellent’ organization. (Think: the opposite of TEPCO).
Those who are disconnected from Creation, or who think they are, believe their actions, thoughts, feelings don’t affect the rest of Creation.
Those who are aware of the Interconnectedness of Creation count every thought and action as precious and sacred.
In other words, empathy is Holy. It’s opposite, I would term ‘evil’.
David Bohm, who worked at the University of California, Berkeley termed this interconnectedness the ‘implicate order’ or ‘undivided wholeness’:
http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/science/prat-boh.htm
But, they got him:
It was while writing Quantum Theory that Bohm came into conflict with McCarthyism. He was called upon to appear before the Un-American Activities Committee in order to testify against colleagues and associates. Ever a man of principle, he refused. The result was that when his contract at Princeton expired, he was unable to obtain a job in the USA. He moved first to Brazil, then to Israel, and finally to Britain in 1957, where he worked first at Bristol University and later as Professor of Theoretical Physics at Birkbeck College, University of London, until his retirement in 1987. Bohm will be remembered above all for two radical scientific theories: the causal interpretation of quantum physics, and the theory of the implicate order and undivided wholeness.
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Brilliantly stupid. The volitile material continues to explode and the air and sea carry the contaminate world wide. We have developed a complex and complete way to not only exterminate every living thing on the planet, but to contaminate the planet and the gene pool so even the DNA mutated species that appear to overcome the initial radiation will also perish in the ever growing complex pollution. Really brilliant. Stupid is making it a reality.
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mm, potent comment, polarizing…
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Hawaii not mentioned ..
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I imagine President Obama vacationed recently in Hawaii because it was considered a good campaign move. However, he must be clueless about all the radiation in Hawaii. Harvard should do a better job of educating its graduates. He is going to be luck to survive the radiation exposure another 5 years. He still smokes also so his radiation accumulation must be suicidal by now.
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TYPO: lucky
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He was (officially) born and raised here and likes it as a kick-back location (like everybody else). In an interview maybe two months ago he said that he quit smoking quite a while ago, and has ever since managed to stay away from cigs.
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Well, he only lived about 9 years of his life in Hawaii. I thought the President wasn’t supposed to be taking risks and was supposed to try to stay alive. I’m sure Hawaii is a wonderful place. But it is now post Fukushima and the radiation levels are greater there than even Alaska. I thought that the secret service was supposed to be protective of him. The nuclear industry shouldn’t be lying to everyone about the health effects of radiation and the amount of radiation in Hawaii.
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Hi guys, been lurking here since day 1. The work you guys have done here in the comments section is very honorable, all the heavies.. Anne, Whoopie, Tgrove, etc.. thank you
We just moved from Hawaii. Difficult to leave, after years of hard work we finally had a very comfortable lifestyle but since 3.11 we’ve lost our stability. Quit our jobs and went on extended vacations to southern hemi already, now we are gone for good I can’t believe it. So sad we had to leave our pet behind as well. We are devastated. If your still there take good care filter your water and home air, maybe grow some indoor veggies. a hui hou
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+grasshopper. KUDOS to the collective group…
SO SORRY for this process impacting your life…
best of luck in travels and the new path.
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grasshopper, it looks like my family may be following in your footsteps, not soon enough, I’m afraid. do you have any advice?
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Sorry for the delayed reaction.. I recommend craigslist, sell everything.. I had like 30 ads going, donated to salvation army, some homeless guys, and right before we left due to time constraint, I threw a bunch of stuff away.
Plan ahead now and do everything don’t wait till the last minute. We’ve just arrived to the Southern Hemisphere.
Limited funds too, if we did anyone can do it. Don’t let a job hold you down. Take your radio-protectants and whatever else in the meantime, fast.. Don’t tell people your leaving unless they express concern as well, otherwise they don’t want to hear it.. I spoke to people casually at my work about it and throughout my community and 2 PEOPLE, out of hundreds, responded with similar concern…. the rest… laughed. Shogunai.
Good luck
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A cruising lifestyle on a sailboat is very attactive. Its mobile..Maybe the post Fukushima world order is sailboat based..
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And true this.
They are really figuring out how bad this catastrophe is becoming. Only thing is, they are saying, “shhhhh, don’t tell the ready to stampede sheeple of the usa.”
Everyone in the world knows how bad the amounts of radiation is coming from fukushima, but the people of this usa nation will not because of the stranglehold the us propaganda machine, formally known as media, has on the followers after the false god of “change.”
Something that has not had a lot of discussion is the fact that all those other Asian nations are getting hammered with fukushima contamination a lot worse than is being talked about. Those products coming from japan and china MUST be checked for contamination. Big chinese no-no’s in Santa’s bag? Hummmmm.
When these things really get to going with more steam, or there is some sort of something that happens that escalates this horrendously growing disaster, they there will be catching a lot of the low level fallout before it will hit the rest of us in the northern hemisphere.
Something to continue to seek information around.
Where are our regular radiation measurements from Asia? Please check in on the Radiation Monitoring Thread.
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you’re a shrewd analyst, and talented writer!
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Well, I think if I lived in Korea or in China I would be even more concerned with ocean pollution than in the US, although it will be bad everywhere.
What people need to start realizing is that all this is coming from a single nuclear facility. It’s polluting giant swaths of earth and will lay havoc on millions of people.
What’s the next one? Are we going to allow this to happen again and again?
There has never been anything in the history of mankind that is as unsafe as nuke power. There simply are no safe reactors. Every single day we allow nuke plants to continue to operate means they will be harder to disassemble when the day comes to shut them down.
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where are all the environmentalists Even green peace maybe especially green peace 2 or 3 stories no major alarms WTF David Suzuki ????
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All about to become Bikini Atoll’s
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikini_Atoll !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikini_atomic_experiments
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Crossroads
Pay attention
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Bikini_Atoll
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Just had a boat report from there..its still got high radiation. They scared themselves with the dosimeter….
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You know, it’s sad to say… but I almost wish that I DIDN’T KNOW!! Seriously!
Because knowing what is going on and not being able to do a damn thing about it just SUCKS!
I was much happier when I was blissfully ignorant.
I really liked looking at the faces of my beautiful children and thinking they had bright futures in front of them…
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They still do just in a different way, We adapt sadly.
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I hear ya! This has changed every way I think about things in my life. I look back at chernobyl and wish it had done the same for me and many others back then. Who knows if starting back then we might have worked triedlessly until in the year 2011 we were nuclear free.
Makes me sad to think about the chance we were all given, the suffering of the children of chernobyl didn’t have to be in vain.
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Me TOO (LL & mm)! Close friends are interested and sympathetic, but choose to distance themselves in their degree of awareness, to keep from swamping, utter burdening their beings. This has changed my awareness greatly… I not long worry (as much) about 600T in derivatives and the utterly corrupt financial, baking and stock market casino empire. IT does NOT really matter, the monetary system, our 401 ponzi system IS ALL FAKE!
This unfolding GLOBAL CRISIS is the human fate which we have read about and very real. We ARE (eventually) doomed – not if but when the bell strikes…
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STRANGE… I don’t see the US on this list of concerned Pacific rim countries lmao WE SUCK! LOL
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Well, the US has concerns bigger than all this… I suspect our political friends the Japanese, have had to reconsider the push to sell oil in something other than dollars..and with the US being the only country on the planet to increase imports from the region, I suspect I know what deal was made.. I suspect China can not say too much..who will buy their cheap products, if the US doesn’t? ..or are they making sure their most radioactive items are exported to the US? I hear Walmart has been having great deals on tires..seems like some country turned away a whole bunch of radioactive tires… on and on.. we are concerned in this country that the 1% continue to thrive, the other 99%…too bad.
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Well my respect for Pakistan just went up ten-fold along with my concern for Hawaii. Fortunately for the 99% the 1% eats the same food, breaths the same air, lives and vacations in all the same places. Unfortunately for them radioactive isotopes don’t take bribes!
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I just looked at the Russian isotope pdf’s, the latest one is from October:
http://www.typhoon.obninsk.ru/rus/ipm/lab3/ro.htm
This area of northeast Russia had some of the highest radiation readings:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Location_Chersky_Range.PNG
There was another spot just northwest of Mongolia with high radiation.
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They are both closer to Japan in at least some places very high background radiation. And then the snow out in the very tall mountains is going to be higher. There goes the desirability of Himilayan salt.
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”Police told to have geiger counters” I hope they are creating task forces, this is gonna be a full time job for a large part of their officers. Everything will need to be photographed, measured, and if it is radioactive it will need to be disposed of appropriately, like nuclear waste is supposed to be…not to mention the exposure these officers will be subjected to daily.
I foresee the beaches being closed down in the very near future for containment/decontamination purposes. Indefinitely.
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Whats to stop people from going out and collecting items they find? Some of those bodies will have jewelry, some items will wash up that can and will be sold as scrap, some stuff will wash up that people just might take home. Some of it may end up on ebay and be sold to whom-ever. It will make it’s way all over hell and back…..
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I doubt a ‘warning’ about it being radioactive will stop someone that is unemployed and cold, broke and hungry…..
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I really gotta wonder about Carcasses making it all the way across
in recognizable forms, unless inside a flotation of some kind.
Lotsa Hungry Birds out there by Midway, all the minor atolls between there
and Niihau. Feesh, shrimp, scavengers.
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If there was a true scientific community in the nuclear industry, (with a heart or any empathy at all), they would be leading the whole industry in this direction.
They would be calling for research around the garbage floating to the US, studying it and the ocean for radiation, and warning people about it, if danger is found.
It speaks VOLUMES that NO ONE is saying SQUAT, about anything.
In their mind, everything is just hunky dory, as long as they next pay check is in the mail..
Mums the word…
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Officials: No Alaska radiation from Fukushima
by Jeff Richardson / jrichardson@newsminer.com Dec 24, 2011 | 3062 views | 21 | 5 | |
FAIRBANKS — With the status of Japan’s Fukushima nuclear disaster officially downgraded to “cold shutdown” earlier this month, local scientists and public health officials say it appears Alaska has managed to escape any detectable radioactive fallout.
http://newsminer.com/bookmark/16895861-Officials-No-Alaska-radiation-from-Fukushima
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“Clyde Pearce, a radiation inspector with the Alaska Division of Public Health, said the global jet stream after the March reactor accident consistently steered fallout south of Alaska. He said radiation sensors in the state confirm Alaska didn’t receive a detectable dose of radiation.
“We haven’t had any changes in the readings,” Pearce said. “There’s a variation every day, but the amount of variation hasn’t been abnormal.”
Pearce has monitored a radiation sensor in Anchorage for the past 15 years. There were also monitoring stations located in Fairbanks, Juneau, Dutch Harbor and Nome.”
From the EPA:
DUTCH HARBOR AK 1855 AIR-FILTER B102472 3/18/2011 3/19/2011 1755.644489 M3 Gross beta in air 3/22/2011 1.158 0.068 PCI/M3 3/22/2011 Gross Beta
The reading at Dutch Harbor was almost 3 times as much as anywhere else in the US.
Clyde Pearce is a liar.
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Canada quietly shipping bomb-grade uranium to U.S., says ‘Secret’ federal memo
By Andy Blatchford, The Canadian Press | The Canadian Press – Tue, 27 Dec, 2011
MONTREAL – Weapons-grade uranium is quietly being transported within Canada, and into the United States, in shipments the country’s nuclear watchdog wants to keep cloaked in secrecy.
http://m.yahoo.com/w/news_america/canada-quietly-shipping-bomb-grade-uranium-u-says-113006238.html?orig_host_hdr=ca.news.yahoo.com&.intl=ca&.lang=en-ca
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“Pandora’s box is an artifact in Greek mythology, taken from the myth of Pandora’s creation around line 60 of Hesiod’s Works and Days. The “box” was actually a large jar (πιθος pithos) given to Pandora (Πανδώρα) (“all-gifted”), which contained all the evils of the world. When Pandora opened the jar, all its contents except for one item were released into the world. The one remaining item was Hope.[1] Today, opening Pandora’s box means to create evil that cannot be undone.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora's_box
Hmmmm… does this bring anything to mind? Not FUKU, of course… Nope, no radiation there, nobody hurt, nobody killed, ‘cold shutdown’. lol
Nothing to see, move on. Go watch some TV and see the people dance and sing and be royal.
Meanwhile, Pandora’s Boxes continue to exhale TeraBequerels of radiation; secretly, invisibly, silent, and deadly.
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