Scientist holds press conference in Tokyo: Urgent need to share new developments from Fukushima — Very, very striking results show radiation injury to whole ecosystems — Significant implications for Japan (VIDEO)

Published: August 22nd, 2014 at 8:10 pm ET


Foreign Correspondents’ Club of Japan, Aug. 22, 2014 (emphasis added):

At 3:15 in

  • Dr. Timothy A. Mousseau, Professor of Biological Sciences, University of South Carolina: There’s been some developments in the last year or two — especially in recent months — that really bring some sense of urgency to sharing some of these latest findings… Hopefully this will be of some relevance to the people of Japan, as well as people that might be visiting Japan in the coming years. My concerns of the past few months stems from the fact that there’s a growing number of scientific studies concerning radiation effects on plants and animals from Chernobyl, but also from Fukushima. These have clearly demonstrated impacts — injuriesto individuals, populations, communities, and even whole ecosystems. These findings have significant implications for the recovery of contaminated regions of Japan.

At 22:00 in

  • Mousseau: These next figures are really, really important, and this really was the motivation for speaking today. These are the results from 4 years of data, so starting July 2011, and we just did the last count last month here in Fukushima. This graph shows very, very strikingly the total numbers of birds drops off with radiation in Fukushima in a very consistent pattern. There’s no evidence of any kind of threshold of radiation level below which there’s no effect — very consistent from over the years, with the effect increasing though time. The effects on species richness or biodiversity are even more striking, dropping off with increasing radiation… Very, very striking patterns of results… So what does this all mean? I would suggest that what it means is that, contrary to governmental reports, there’s now an abundance of information demonstrating consequences — in other words, injuryto individuals, populations, species, and ecosystem functions, stemming from the low dose radiation due to Chernobyl and Fukushima disasters.

At 30:00 in

  • Mousseau: The point today is that as far as we can tell so far, there does not seem to be any dramatic difference between the effects of radiation in Chernobyl versus the effects of radiation in Fukushima. I think that is one of the take home messages.

At 38:00 in

  • Elaine Kurtenbach, AP reporter: I’m assuming this has ecosystem wide impacts… Are you extrapolating… that perhaps part of the reason why the number of animals is decreasing is because the entire ecosystem is affected by the radiation?
  • Mousseau: …To the issue of global ecosystem effects, yes, I think the only conclusion you can come to from the increasing body of evidence of Chernobyl is that all components of this ecosystem seem to be affected, from the bacteria in the soil, the fungi in the soil, all the way up to the top predators… they are all connected of course. As we pick away at the various components of the ecosystem, we have not found any particular components that don’t seem to be affected in some way.

Watch the press conference here

Published: August 22nd, 2014 at 8:10 pm ET


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240 comments to Scientist holds press conference in Tokyo: Urgent need to share new developments from Fukushima — Very, very striking results show radiation injury to whole ecosystems — Significant implications for Japan (VIDEO)

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

    They've had information for decades that there is a supra linear result of exposure to low levels of radiation. How many people have to die before the world will acknowledge that there is no safe place to hide from radiation? All the money in the world won't save any person. How much money did Elizabeth Edwards have? Yet they couldn't save her from dying of cancer. Each succeeding generation is going to show more and more genetic malformations if the world even survives through several more generations. More likely, we will all die of oxygen deprivation. Why is the world still seeking to have more and more nuclear energy? Nuclear energy is the worship of a death cult.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      Deadly Deceit: Low-Level Radiation High-Level Cover-Up Paperback – April 1, 1991

      • hbjon hbjon

        I dare remind people that it is entirely possible that every bit of information we've had come out of Fukushima is false. Except of course that up to 4 reactors had worse case scenarios and 4 SFP's either lost all coolant and burned up, melted down, or miraculously survived with massive damage and debris scattered among the fuel assemblies.
        The site has had typhoons, earthquakes, fires, and massive ongoing problems since a 9.0 EQ and 100 foot tsunami slammed into the complex on 3/11/11.
        Keep in mind, the videos, pictures, radiation readings, and news reports may all be a figment of someone's imagination. However, I do believe the reports made by this site have the highest degree of integrity one can find on the internet 🙂

          • hbjon hbjon

            And the main problem being that there's too much conflict of interest to tell the truth. Healthcare, utilities, and military make billions from nuclear. Justice can only be served in a system that forces responsible parties to make whole those that have been hurt.
            It is very easy to know where ones loyalty is. If they acknowledge the possibility of wrongdoing and probe into and address all the complaints with transparency, then they are righteous and wise.
            If the accused tries to change the subject, discredit and attack the victim, make wild unrelated accusations, or stonewall any attempts at researching the crime, they are surely hiding their participation in a criminal act. Unfortunately for the sake of honesty, we often see this where large sums of money are at risk. We even see it here (where some post anonymously) those are industry shills. Very easy to identify.

        • lucius.cornelius

          A website dedicated to exposing media fakery, that is a hard to find website, has an entire thread dedicated to attempting to prove that the entire "triple meltdown, ELE event" claims are made up. They show, rightly, some extremely dodgy images that were being broadcast by the world media in the hours after 3/11. Shots of the power station where the buildings defy perspective, shots of the site with buildings in different places. Sections of webcam footage of the site, post disaster, attempting to debunk the allegations arising.

          Their stance comes from the starting position that certain events that we have been shown over the last x years, have been faked. They then jumpt to the conclusion that therefore, all events shown by the media are faked. As far as I can see, this is where they make a mistake. It's the old problem that "if you lie to me a couple of times I won't know whether you're ever telling me the truth again" which is a fair point. However, what is not a fair point is the belief that because you lied to me a couple of times, that everything you ever say again is automatically a lie.

          • lucius.cornelius

            The healthiest position to be in, to my mind, is this – expect the media to be lying, either by covering up or by exagerrating events. Don't look at the pictures and video they show from a point of view of "this is reliable footage I can trust this", look for things that are wrong – look for shadows that don't go in the same direction, look for evidence around the edges of objects or people that might indicate that Cut & Paste has been employed. Look for objects moving around in videos that shouldn't move indpendently of the rest of the scenery. In short – look for evidence of deceit and you'll begin to see there really is an awful lot of it.
            For example – there was an iconic shot of an area of wreckage from MH17 in Ukraine. A largish area of charred black wreckage, the grass around it was charred black too, there was nothing in the image that was not burnt in this area, except the body of the an alleged passenger, which was in the middle of the charred area and had not a single visible burn on it.
            Some of the imagery from the Boston Marathon event is faked. The recent beheading video is faked (way too litle blood for a real execution), 7/7 was faked, as was 9/11. The list is long and we are gullible children. Time to wake up. The media is not your friend. Great effort is put into convincing us that the news is here for us, to tell us "what's going on". Nothing could be further from the truth. The world is a TV show.

            • West Aussie West Aussie

              "However, what is not a fair point is the belief that because you lied to me a couple of times, that everything you ever say again is automatically a lie."
              lucius.cornelius, above.
              Perfect description of how the shills and trolls try to debunk us with varying degrees of success. They take an extreme and obviously (to us with open and inquiring minds) fallacious conspiracy theory, debunk it, then use that as the reason to reject ALL unofficial narratives that run counter to the forces of these global, hegemonic, expansionist policy makers.
              It's such a sweet little con but each time we call them out on it their efficacy of its use diminishes. Knowledge can be power. Wisdom is its throttle.

            • name999 name999

              lucius, your view is too black and white, but I can see how it could be comforting
              to believe this.

            • Gabe Gabe

              You are absolutely correct. One of the biget fakes was the Sandy Hook fake. Did you know that even te federal gov. Has now admitted that no shooting happened there and that no children died? They now admit it was a drill, used to push the antigun agenda.
              The level of lying and deceit from government and main stream media has reached such levels that I rarely ever look at any mainstream media anymore. I read from sites like ENEnews and other high quality sites.
              Thank You all for the very hard work you do and for the incredibly valuable comments.

              • We Not They Finally

                I really hate calling people "idiots," but you tempt me sorely. One of our best friends personally knew the grieving father of a VERY DEAD six-year-old little girl. SHAME on you gun nuts for calling it all fake for the sake of gun control!

                And BTW, why ISN'T there more gun control? The proliferation of dangerous arsenals in the U.S. is shameful and appalling. Causing at least 13,000 homicides a year. You're PROUD of that? "Proud to be an American"? If you're proud of those stats, then I'm ashamed of YOU.

                You're in The Hall of Shame for your comments about Sandy Hook. Shame on you!!

                • We Not They Finally

                  Actually, Gabe, I'm calling for you to TAKE IT BACK. Those children were shot dead!! Take it back!!

                  And maybe you should stop hanging out with gun-happy creeps, but I guess that your friends are your own business. But for the sake of public decency, at least TAKE THIS BACK.

              • tinfoiled tinfoiled

                Agreed, Gabe.

                By the way, us gun toting nut-jobs are having a BBQ. The only clothing requirement will be your NASCAR hat, as later in the evening we will be dancing naked around a bonfire waving our assault rifles in the air. BYOB (cheap canned stuff only), spittoons will be provided for the tobbaccy chewers. Better wear an old pair of shoes, Clem and Zeke can't spit fer shit.

                Be there, or be a constitution hating anti-gun puke.;)

            • itsanuclearwar

              @lucius.cornelius, good call.

              “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”

              ― George Orwell

              We need more revolutionary acts, here at enenews also.

              • We Not They Finally

                Actually, we need to have the whole culture going north instead of south. The nuclear deceit has been ongoing for some 70 years now, but opposition seems to be getting less, not more. How hungry and ill and impoverished do people have to be before they look this in the face?

          • danger kitty danger kitty

            lucius cornelius,
            Are you sayin' that the northern hemisphere was NOT hosed by large amounts of genome shredding gamma radiation? Cuz if you are, you should see my three posts this thread. (below?)
            Ash trees, at least in California, are screaming gamma radiation. Their DNA is so altered they are practically new, different species. Gamma is the only possible cause. The trees, at least, are NOT lying.

            • We Not They Finally

              danger kitty, yes, AND…. Look up Dane Wigington on the horrifying effects of UV-B radiation on trees, especially in California. Not that that isn't man-made too! The geoengineering apparently has increased that fiercely, and the real stats are as watered down as the radiation stats.

              The eco-system is being attacked on many fronts. Although it's the same malignant cabals behind it (far as one can check.) And much of it comes from THE MILITARY. Like Raytheon does something key in plotting the weather patterns (Wigington goes into that,) and they are not an environmental outfit at all — good God, they are a major DEFENSE company — WEAPONS!

              Even the ebola vaccine by Sarepta — it's development was not funded by the CDC at all. It was funded by The U.S. Department of Defense, to the tune of $291 million!

              It's dizzying to weave all the terrible strands together, but we need to do it. Dane Wigington ( is a good starting place for that — for anyone. He's NOT at all in denial about Fukushima, just sees all the other previous, ongoing, and contributing factors.

              What is also helpful to realize (for the entirety of our physical, mental, emotional and spiritual beings) is that nuclear is NOT just a one-issue drumbeat at all. It's more like the very worse now as "a capper."

              Making is most easy to claim NOT just being anti-nuclear, but pro-ecology and pro-humanity! So the next time anyone feels under attack for being…

              • We Not They Finally

                …"anti-nuclear," or marginalized by the attacker, just tell the person attacking you that what you REALLY are is pro-ecology and pro-humanity. And why aren't THEY pro-ecology and pro-humanity?

                Like c-rap with being on the defensive all the time!

        • clamshellernh clamshellernh

          minimizing by The Japanese government and TEPCO people is one of the motivations of MR , MOUSSEAU
          He clearly tells us this at the beginning of the press conference
          This man is taking an urgent stand here folks .

          Please do not forget how much this will take in funding to clean it up

          Who is doing the clean up
          Is the almighty dollar more important than life I ask
          Well we know the answer to that now .

          This is criminal and should be taken to the highest of highest courts , oh my the implications of a fact based unbiased study may impede any funding what so ever

          • Jebus Jebus

            I agree clam, this good Dr. has laid it out on the table.

            It is obvious that integrity and truth are his motivations.

            His practiced ommission of any "point of view" on all matters political is further evidence of truth in science.

            Given the history, the lies, the ommissions, the coverups, and the tactics of todays corporate world, this man is actually risking everything on the truth.

            He put the world to shame in one press conference…

          • We Not They Finally

            Timothy Mousseau has been a very good guy for a very long time now. He's one of the best.

      • We Not They Finally

        Re "Low Level Radiation": Big huge problem at at all times! There is no "low level radiation." The term (especially here, with the ongoing/escalating,) is "CHRONIC radiation." Chronic and CUMULATIVE.

        TELL people that a millionth of a gram can kill them, and that the millionths of grams keep adding, never leaving, and they will stop calling it "low level." The term "low level" is on a par with the term "leak."

        Would love to see someone do a "new nomenclature" project. Don't have the resources to launch it myself, but would support anyone doing it. That would be extraordinarily helpful.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      I think what Mousseau is trying nicely to say is that there will be no one to maintain all the nuclear waste and nuclear reactors in Japan very shortly. And since the US is downwind, sayonara.

      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        Accually i do not think you watched this when you wrote post , I didn't hear anything about maintenance of waste in regards to MR MOUSSEAU and this press conference

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

          I didn't mean that he literally said this. I meant that the inference of what he is saying about the birds and other species will affect the people also and when the people are affected there will be no one to maintain the nuclear reactors or the nuclear waste. Concentrating on birds and saying that it is alamrning what is happening to them is a nice way of warning the people without every actually saying the words about the effects radiation is having on people.

          • clamshellernh clamshellernh

            @vanne he speaks nothing about the problem of waste and he makes sure to tell us this is NOT HIS EXPERTISE .
            I think you should watch this in it's entirety
            Thanks for your links in regard to the subject however .

            • clamshellernh clamshellernh

              Vanne correction the doctor does speak of the bags of waste and the correlation of the clean up costs and how some money , less than one percent should be used to fund this research ..

              I find it's what this man is careful of NOT SAYING on these type of subjects that are not in his expertise MOST TELLING

            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

              I'm saying as well as other on this website and in the anti-nuclear community that when everyone is dead in Japan, there will be no one to take care of the waste or the reactors. How soon that happens depends on a number of factors. We might all stop breathing before we've all died of cancer. And there are those who say that when the Arctic ice melts within 1 year, the temperature spikes in the southwest of the US will be all cooked to death. Also, if there is a Carrington event and the nuclear reactors will melt down. Then there all the bees that are dying and the prediction is that we will all have died within 5 years after the complete bee die off.

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                “If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe, then man would have only four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man.”
                ― Albert Einstein

              • clamshellernh clamshellernh

                Nope what you are saying is not what this is about period .
                You have to watch it somehow because this press conference never left you feeling anything you are describing .
                Not that this is not an issue
                But nope again

                • Angela_R

                  VanneV, sometimes does not watch the videos provided in comments, so maybe she did not view the link supplied in the article.

                  But then, I see in her comment below @ 1.52pm a reference to logic; a non-sequitour?

                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                  Sorry I didn't express myself so well. Still, if anyone thinks only the insects and birds mutate from nuclear radiation, the sorrow of the future will be a shock. There should be a warning alarm for all the species, because the future is very bleak. Children at birth can be hidden and euthanized, but no one can hide the leaves of the trees and the petals of the flowers and the mutations of birds and insects.

                  • Angela_R

                    VanneV, I like you when you are you 🙂

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                      I'm always me, so you only like part of me.

                      I actually don't know any two people who think the same way or have the same priorities.

                      I don't expect people to agree with me, but I do think that it is important to look for the truth, no matter how painful that may be. The truth, many times, is multi-faceted.

                      I try my best to like all people, even though they disagree with me.

                  • Angela_R

                    but VanneV, why quote others without an inferred query or a question, if you do not support their view?

                    To be blunt, imo, in so doing, you are lending yourself to the view you quote.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                      You are wrong, but, obviously, I will never be able to change your mind. News is news. I always want to know what other are thinking about the news whether I agree with their opinion or not. I've pretty much stopped quoting the news. So do you think you can leave me alone? Or are you paid for the number of comments you can generate?

            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

              You might want to look up the definition of a logical inference.

              • Well, Vanne; I completely understood what you were saying and I don't know why these two jumped on you like that.
                (And I know this comment is very old, but someone should have said something!)

                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingTruth

                  TY, AnneBeck. I suspect that communication on blogs is many times misunderstood for various reasons. For one, some bloggers don't have English as their first language. And some people have different views on certain subjects and those views bleed over onto other subjects. I find it difficult even after listening to the same blogger for 4 years to understand their motivations.

      • Wyakin Wyakin

        Anne: “Concentrating on birds and saying that it is alarming what is happening to them is a nice way of warning the people without every actually saying the words about the effects radiation is having on people.”


        I’ve had the privilege of exchanging correspondence with Mousseau in the past. I believe he is in the objective scientific method camp, and draws conclusions from empirical findings. “Logical inference,” is the essence of the contribution.

        The effects of radiation on all DNA sharing species should provide insight in to the predicted effects on all DNA sharing species, including humans.

        Mousseau is passionate, and I believe among those trying to expose the truth, through the discipline in which he is an expert.


    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      Articles, Scientific Papers, Books, Letters, and Selected Testimony Relating to the Health Effects of Ionizing Radiation
      Ernest J. Sternglass, Ph. D.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      Twenty years of lobbying for a properly scientific understanding of radiation risk

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      A Primer in the Art of Deception: The Cult of Nuclearists, Uranium Weapons and Fraudulent Science
      Paul Zimmerman, 2009.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      NUCLEAR FIGHTER: Dr. Rosalie Bertell maintains the nuclear industry and military policy makers are the world's main polluters.

      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        @vanne is one of the best websites on the web for authors that are on the side of life
        And the books are all free to read
        It has an amazing search button too

        It should be in all of our favorite files for easy fact and discussion

        Thank you VANNE for reminding me

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      John Gofman: “Their falsehoods concerning the hazards of ionizing radiation have put not thousands of people at risk, not millions of people, but billions of people.”

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      The horrible problem of radiation is that is ravishes the brain and lowers the IQ, and there are only cretins left to mind the shop.

      • scottyji scottyji

        @ VanneV = thank you for jumping on this so eloquently & thoroughly.

      • Cisco Cisco

        Applicable Einstein quotes?

        "The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits."

        "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them"

        "The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of the evil."

        "I have now reached the point where I may indicate briefly what to me constitutes the essence of the crisis of our time. It concerns the relationship of the individual to society. The individual has become more conscious than ever of his dependence upon society. But he does not experience this dependence as a positive asset, as an organic tie, as a protective force, but rather as a threat to his natural rights, or even to his economic existence."

        "The world is in greater peril from those who tolerate or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it."

        "Our world faces a crisis as yet unperceived by those possessing power to make great decisions for good or evil. The unleashed power of the atom has changed everything save our modes of thinking and we thus drift toward unparalleled catastrophe."


          great quotes, Cisco. I would differ with his explanation that "…economic anarchy of capitalist society…" is the cause of our woes. Had genuine free-market capitalism been in play over the last century, nuclear power would not have survived the self-regulating forces of a genuine marketplace. Yet I'm not surprised that he would suggest "capitalist" were the bane of mankind, as it was the likes of Einstein that 'parasitized' the world's resources through centralized economic planning…

          • Cisco Cisco

            AFTERSHOCK…more to that

            "The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of the evil. We see before us a huge community of producers the members of which are unceasingly striving to deprive each other of the fruits of their collective labor – not by force, but on the whole in faithful compliance with legally established rules. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals."

            – Albert Einstein, The World As I See It (1949)

            • orsobubu orsobubu

              Thank you for the quotes, Cisco. Hi Aftershock, my dear friend. I'm on vacation in Dolomites mountains. When will you come here??

              Surely einstein was very close to be an internationalist and a libertarian communist. I have to point out that, in history, the more complete and coherent (scientific) ideology elaborated by men to accomplish internationalism goals is leninism.

              Einstein wrote in 1929: "I ​​pay tribute to Lenin as a man who has devoted all his energies to the achievement of social justice, to this end by sacrificing his individuality. I do not think, however, that his method is right.

              Obviously, Einstein was a man of peace, with his head costantly immersed in the realms of scientific astractions and visions, while Lenin' life was a continuated material struggle, forged in the midst of a world war and a civil conflict, where you have to be a realist to survive and succeed. Personally, I think that the last statement is also related with the degenerated developments of bolschevism after Lenin' death, by stalinism.

            • orsobubu orsobubu

              In the 1949 article, "Why Socialism?", Albert Einstein described the economic turmoil of modern capitalist society as a source of evil to be overcome. He was opposed to the totalitarian regimes of the Soviet Union and other countries, but was in favor of a democratic socialism that would combine a planned economy with a profound respect for human rights. In fact, for Einstein the real purpose of socialism is precisely to overcome and go beyond the "predatory phase of human development" in anticipation of a new model of society that would reconcile the well-being of the individual with that of the entire community.

              • Cisco Cisco

                orsobubu…thank you for more detail. I think he had it right!

              • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                He certainly had it right.. "predatory phase of human development" 🙂


                as usual, orsobubu, your grasp of issues is nothing less than brilliant. Of course, my only difference with your closing observations on egalitarianism, resides in enforcing accountability over those who determine the priorities within a planned economy.

                We're now witnessing the complete lack of any socioeconomic control of those parties that are now managing the globalist agenda. Unfortunately, centralized media (print and electronic) have promulgated the growing demand for centralized planning. And as we've seen from the innumerable calamities of nuclear power, the globalist have no interest in responding to the will of the masses.

                I would also submit, the nascent influences of Marxist-Leninist ideology developed within the cauldron of post-Napoleonic revolutionary France.

                You should know my friend, I'm with you in spirit…

                • orsobubu orsobubu

                  Yes, talking about egalitarianism you're referring to present state capitalistic/imperialistic phase, and the result is the worst of all the possible worlds, for the people, if you think to the possible consequences. But, as you know, I always aim for an intermediate proletarian dictatorship prior to a much longer anarchist age. Some form of dictatorship will be necessary, if the economic/social situation will tank like in the first half of '900 so, IMHO, a communist one is long better than a fascist one (obviously intending communist as exactly the opposite than soviet state capitalism: yes, a socialist "global" agenda, but without exploiting/subordinate classes).

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    orsobubu et al, Even economists become confused by theory and labels. Never forget that humans, like all other animals, can function without any government control at all. Its only when collaborating to create civilizations that some central control and pooling of resource is required. Its worth emphasizing that all other species have been successful for untold thousands of years, and it was only man and his systems of government that each failed, systematically, after a few hundred years. One end product of corruption inherent in insular elite power is nuclear apocalypse.

                    The rentenmark worked to stabilize Weimar Germany because it was backed by hard assets. What this really means is it was close to being a trading coupon, the real purpose for money. Never let someone control the money! They will impose usury, and find ways to steel it. Everyone wants to make money on others, a mathematical impossibility.

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Very wise..
                      "Its worth emphasizing that all other species have been successful for untold thousands of years, and it was only man and his systems of government that each failed, systematically, after a few hundred years. "

                    • Angela_R

                      Stretch out everybody…in the universe without end, there is a planet for everyone, so what we hang on to here, limits us

                    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                      precisely, Angela_R…

                    • orsobubu orsobubu

                      In general I agree with you. Anyway, our best option would be get rid of money at all: if you get rid of wage work and salaries, you wipe off exploitation , surplus value, money and capital in general. Without the necessity to find enough capitals to run the economy, we could organize overall production just like, i.e., General Motors or whatever company organizes the production INSIDE its own pipeline, aside from competitors and other economic actors: when a GM worker needs a piston rod, he doesn't buy it with money from another GM worker or choosing among various offers inside the plant; he is given the best rod free because inside the plant there is a common interest in making the best product. So, communism would apply this principle globally, organizing the world overall production centralizing the control, distributing workers and resources and abolishing competition and useless

                      duplicates: in other words, Ferraris for everybody, massive robotization and very few working hours. Surely this is not the best of all the possibilities,

                      because first you should kill the exploiters and, second, the production would be organized by a superior hierarchy (even if on scientific principles for the common interst), but it would be far better then capitalistic wars and crisis. Then, on the basis of the enormously improved productivity (highest integrated organization, no more unemployment, overcapacity, etc) mankind could start to plan the transition to an anarchist economy.


              which reinforces my suspicions, Cisco, that Einstein was sold to us as being a humanitarian. In reality, he was a hardcore globalist. Of greater interest is how we were bamboozled into accepting an agenda that provided zero benefits to the people.

              None would argue with ensuring that all have access to safe drinking water. Yet, at what cost? Do we eventually discover that such laudable goal eventually manifests itself in multinational corporations becoming sole managers of natural resources…like water? Yes…we have. Have the globalist stood by and permitted this usurpation of natural resources? Yes…they have…



          You left out his most important quote ……

          "The release of atom power has changed everything except our way of thinking… the solution to this problem lies in the heart of mankind. If only I had known, I should have become a watchmaker."

          Albert Einstein

      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        MR Mousseau speaks of the scientific bird studies and the implications for humans with reduced brain size , he notes that with reduced brain size the immune system is all the more compromised , not to mention intelligence and cognitive skills .
        He validates all of what we share on enenews .

      • Starbird Starbird

        Excellent point Anne, and since the entire world has now been contaminated, we will all be affected.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      UN ‘ignores’ genetic mutations caused by Fukushima disaster
      August 22 2014
      “The United Nations is deliberately ignoring evidence of genetic damage caused by the Fukushima nuclear disaster, according to international scientists who point to signs of mutations in animals, birds and plants….”

      • Angela_R

        "The United Nations is deliberately ignoring evidence…" There are five permanent security members of the United Nations and any ONE of these members can veto a motion." I would expect that the information provided on the Fukushima Nuclear plant reached the Security Council; surely the members requested this information? Perhaps we need to factor in plausible deniability….

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      Very Low Dose Fetal Exposure to Chernobyl Contamination Resulted in Increases in Infant Leukemia in Europe and Raises Questions about Current Radiation Risk Models
      Christopher C. Busby
      Int. J. Environ. Res. Public Health 2009, 6, 3105-3114; doi:10.3390/ijerph6123105

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      Chris Busby, Geneva, 2012: a plan to stop the nuclear industry
      May 14, 2012

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      Burlakova, E. B.; Yu. S. Antova; A. N. Goloshchapov; S. M. Gurevich; G. P. Zhizhina; A. I. Kozachenko (1999). "Mechanisms of biological action of low-dose irradiation". Consequences of the Chernobyl Catastrophe on Human Health. New York, US: Nova Science Publishers Inc. pp. 11–38. ISBN 1-56072-699-7.

      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        Timothy A. Mousseau Professor of Biological Sciences University of South Carolina, Columbia Department of Biological Sciences Coker Life Sciences Rm 706 Columbia SC 29208 USA tel: 803-777-8047; fax:803-777-4002 Mousseau’s Chernobyl Research Mousseau’s CV. Mousseau’s Web Portal
        Since 1999, Professor Mousseau and his collaborators (esp. Dr. Anders Pape Møller, CNRS, University of Paris-Sud) have explored the ecological and evolutionary consequences of the radioactive contaminants affecting populations of birds, insects and people inhabiting the Chernobyl region of Ukraine, and more recently, in Fukushima Prefecture, Japan. Their research suggests that many species of plants and animals experience direct toxicity and increased mutational loads as a result of exposure to radionuclides stemming from the Chernobyl and Fukushima disasters. In many species (e.g. the barn swallow, Hirundo rustica), data suggests that this mutational load has had dramatic consequences for development, reproduction and survival, and the effects observed at individual and population levels are having large impacts on the biological communities of these regions. Dr. Mousseau’s current research is aimed at elucidating the causes of variation among different species in their apparent sensitivity to radionuclide exposure.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      On Internal Irradiation and the Health Consequences of
      the Chernobyl Accident
      Chris Busby PhD

      Presented at the Sixth Conference of the British and Irish Charity organisations on Mitigating the Consequences in Belarus of the Chernobyl Catastrophe, London April 6th 2001.

    • Gabe Gabe

      The reason they said nothing for four years was so that in the intervening time the citizens would "acclimate" to the effects they were seeing in friends, family, community and country. After a period of time the terror and panic becomes fear . Then the fear becomes anxiety after some time. Eventually the anxiety decreases and people understand that their world and environment are what they are and there is nothing they can do to change that. In the intervening four years people have had ample time to consider leaving Japan or considering otner options.
      This was an intentional ploy to allow the maases to mve through the stages they would move through until at last they have made peace with their fate.
      Same response is seen in people who are given a devastating diagnosis for which there is no cure……only progression of the disease over a long period of time. Eventually the person accepts their diagnosis and resigns themselves to making the best of what ever time remains.
      The Japanese gvernment is a vile entity. I say this because there are likely people who had the means to leave but did not do so because they have been taught to accept as truth what their government tells them. In those years they have been exposed to radiation that will kill them. Had they left immediately they might have had a chance to live a longer and healthier life.
      Yes the Japanese gvernment is a vile bastard of an entity. Every one of them should be hung at lamp posts in the public…

    • VoIPEng VoIPEng

      Well said VanneV. I concur completely whole heatedly with the excellent valid points you made. The Nuclear Industry is certainly worship of a death cult or in my own words, Nuclear Reactors are knife throwing killing machines.

  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    Welcome – Dr Ian FairlieDr Ian Fairlie | An independent consultant on radioactivity in the environment.
    I’m an independent consultant on radioactivity in the environment living in London UK. I’ve studied radiation and radioactivity at least since the Chernobyl accident in 1986. I’ve a degree in radiation biology from Bart’s Hospital in London and my doctoral studies at Imperial College in London and (briefly) Princeton University in the US concerned the radiological hazards of nuclear fuel reprocessing. I formerly worked as a civil servant on the regulation of radiation risks from nuclear power stations. From 2000 to 2004, I was head of the Secretariat of the UK Government’s CERRIE Committee on internal radiation risks. Since retiring from Government service, I have been a consultant on radiation matters to the European Parliament, local and regional governments, environmental NGOs, and private individuals. My areas of interest are the radiation doses and risks arising from the radioactive releases at nuclear facilities.

    Listen to nuclear hot seat podcast 165#
    This guy has testified in Canada and states he will in the USA
    This cannot be rufuted

    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      Timothy A. Mousseau Professor of Biological Sciences University of South Carolina, Columbia Department of Biological Sciences Coker Life Sciences Rm 706 Columbia SC 29208 USA tel: 803-777-8047; fax:803-777-4002 Mousseau’s Chernobyl Research Mousseau’s CV. Mousseau’s Web Portal
      Since 1999, Professor Mousseau and his collaborators (esp. Dr. Anders Pape Møller, CNRS, University of Paris-Sud) have explored the ecological and evolutionary consequences of the radioactive contaminants affecting populations of birds, insects and people inhabiting the Chernobyl region of Ukraine, and more recently, in Fukushima Prefecture, Japan. Their research suggests that many species of plants and animals experience direct toxicity and increased mutational loads as a result of exposure to radionuclides stemming from the Chernobyl and Fukushima disasters. In many species (e.g. the barn swallow, Hirundo rustica), data suggests that this mutational load has had dramatic consequences for development, reproduction and survival, and the effects observed at individual and population levels are having large impacts on the biological communities of these regions. Dr. Mousseau’s current research is aimed at elucidating the causes of variation among different species in their apparent sensitivity to radionuclide exposure.

      Sent from my F-iPad

      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        More writings from mr mousseau
        Uncomfortable Questions in the Wake of Nuclear Accidents at Fukushima and Chernobyl
        Twenty nuclear accidents at the official International Nuclear Event Scale of 4 to 7 have occurred between 1952 and 2011 (Lelieveld et al. 2012). The risk of another major accident during the next 50 years is high and it has been estimated that some 30 million people could be directly affected by such an accident (Lelieveld et al. 2012). The highest risks occur around major metropolises such as New York, Washington, Atlanta, Toronto, Western Europe, Shanghai, Hong Kong, and Tokyo and Osaka. The lessons that have emerged from Chernobyl and Fukushima reveal a range of serious questions that must be answered appropriately, above all for the sake of citizens, but also for the credibility of the nuclear industry, and for framing the ongoing debate over energy alternatives. Because recent models suggest that more than half of released radioactive material from a nuclear disaster would be transported more than 1000 km from the site of release (Lelieveld et al. 2012), these questions are important even for citizens in distant countries. It is in this spirit that we have produced a list of unpleasant questions that have been a cause of concern since we first started conducting research at Chernobyl in 1992, and have grown in urgency since…

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          clamshell..great brain candy but we have 6-15 years to the next one (Nuclear Meltdown)..not 50 years. 🙁

          If anyone lives near one or downwind/down current..move now! 🙂

          • clamshellernh clamshellernh

            I know
            The inevitable is at our door every day
            I think the builders of these things banked on numbers and odds , for a matter of fact that seems to be one of the arguments for not building them better

            I was Accually just demonstrating some of the other papers he has been involved with
            And I missed that

            Going into the ot thoughts ………..

            What do you think about the science of statistics ?

            I have read that a good or even bad statistician can work the numbers in whoever is paying for them for desired results

  • sentinelle sentinelle

    "There’s no evidence of any kind of threshold of radiation level below which there’s no effect — very consistent from over the years, with the effect increasing though time." (38 min)

  • Socrates

    Fallout respects no borders….

    Even with triple meltdowns, Mox fuel, using salt water, sfp fires and multiple explosions, "there is no 'immediate' threat to human health…." Correct. Depending on the definition of "immediate."

    It will take a few years to study the effects of Fukushima. Meanwhile, a moratorium on construction and funding of nuclear plants should be imposed worldwide. What's the big hurry for the nuclear industry to secure a large share of the energy market? Could it be that once the irrefutable proof of mounting health problems emerge, and the epidemiological proof comes out, that other sources of energy will prove to be much more economical? Those sources of energy will crowd out nuclear energy because there will not be cancers, mutations and collapse of the foodweb at risk.

    It really takes scientists to figure this out? How many marine biologists does it take to see that from phytoplankton to predators, the ocean biosphere was severely injured by radiation from Fukushima. 80% went out to sea.

    Campaign donations from nuclear provides 75% or more of campaign money to the ruling party in Japan. Obama's campaign received as much from the nuclear energy industry as it did from Goldman Sachs. He immediately bailed out the banks and the nuclear industry, just as any Republican candidates would have (except Ron Paul, maybe).

    Tim Mousseau has studied both Chernobyl and Fukushima. The news is not good.

    • Sol Man

      It is cash over credentials. Everybody understands and all suffer.

    • Gabe Gabe

      Speaking of Obama, he needs to hang also, for giving my tax dollars to the banks and the nuclear industry. In my book that is treason.

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      Socrates…would you be able coordinate a class action suit against GE, the NRC, Tepco, the IAEA for lying over and over again and allowing the children of earth to be poisoned?

      In addition, it would be amazing if you could use your contacts to get some real testing done. I'm sure there are people who would fund some testing in your industry to get the ball rolling on a class action lawsuit.

      Do you have any contacts at Scripps Oceanographic Institute?

      Also, has Barbara Boxer come up with any plans for testing? I remember last year several people emailed her about Fukushima. I've haven't heard her talk about Fukushima for a long time.

  • devark devark

    In terms of bananas, exactly how bad are we talking? (bullshit has made me uncontrollably cynical)

  • rogerthat

    i wonder how much of what mousseau has to say will be reported by the foreign correspondents, and how much of what they report will be published in the MSM?

  • MarineBiologistHealthPhysicists
    they didnt care their plan long ago
    about hot particles and how dosage works (the physics about it; seems like they know whats going on)
    their bullshit trying to save their ass about lieing
    Executives at the company have close ties to the Obama administration
    so why would anything he do be supporting of people? it wont he only supports the hand picked commission and yes thats the nuclear commissioners also the document supports that the cores are long gone because of the pressure minimum were extremely over

    no one wants to talk about neutron radiation
    this was before we spilled more than all that we spilled and burnt for 80 years… pretty much got clouds microwaving us so exposure is something that is happening in so many forces and elements that is a biological hazard and the lead levels have passed 1 magnitude and the correlation of cesium levels to uranium is a graph that just shifts the levels higher in part per trillion and when parts per trillion are now measures in parts per million were in some serious deep shit and I told you those crazy nuclear tards think they "need nuclear" their is plenty of ways to not need energy and to become…

  • Jebus Jebus

    I posted this in the prior forum topic.

    This person has been speaking out for a long time.

    Helen Caldicott has been speaking out for a long time.

    Chris Busby has been speaking out for a long time.

    Arnold Gundersen has been speaking out for a long time.

    Many other's have also staked their reputation's upon the truth.

    Go ahead and call these people liars now. It's just not true.

    Real science is simply the truth…

  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    I just got finished watching the whole press conference ..he says that the scientific papers HAVE not been represented at all , he says hormosis has no data to support it
    He says there is no money to do the studies that need to be done and japan is challenging to do any studies and there needs to be a body to work with to do so.

    There needs to be as much funding for Fukushima effects as they have out there for climate change .
    The bottom line , japan has many barriers that need to be fixed we need to do and support rigorous evidence based independent unbiased scientific study's not half baked HIS WORDS !
    His field is entomology and genetic , genetic studies require lots of money

    This is powerful stuff and confirms what we know amongst ourselves here , if you do not have time to watch all of it watch the last ten minutes and the questioning from the press , pay particular attention to his response to one of the last questions and watch how uncomfortable he is

    There is a website as well with the scientific studies of Fukushima that have been done .

    I think we should crowd source him

  • MarineBiologistHealthPhysicists

    adjective: authoritarian

    favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom.
    "the transition from an authoritarian to a democratic regime"
    synonyms: autocratic, dictatorial, despotic, tyrannical, draconian, oppressive, repressive, illiberal,

    its everywhere idk were all fucked but i guess we gotta die one day i dont even worry about this shit anymore because the government is probably actually insane since radiation made their IQ like 1

  • Nick

    Radiation is a holographic wave that sweeps across space and time. The focus on half life's, etc ignores what happens at the quantum level.

    Low dose is a pointless concept since the wave emanates from a decaying particle out into the Universe and encounters other atoms, dislodging electrons, neutrons, or protons, altering them forever.

    Fukushima and other nuclear hell holes are perhaps actual rips in space time, hence their devastating effects on life forms.

    If whole ecosystems become denuded, how on earth is radiation from transuranic human made decaying atoms a good thing?

    OT….. Can anyone explain the early retreat of chlorophyll in trees this summer? I don,t recall any frosts yet? Are the trees stressed?

    • PlowboyGrownUp

      Trees – very few acorns on the 30–something oak trees around my house. The few acorns are very small….we had a late freeze in the spring, I don't know if that affects acorns.

    • Trees are changing early due to diminished sunlight from atmospheric Barium. They did last year also. Changes in sunlight directly effect the leaf color to continue the process of efficient photosynthesis.

      Click my name for more atmospheric Barium damage information.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        TY, Ontological. *100000000000000. The amount of barium will only increase exponentially from the radioactive decay of Cesium and the use of barium in chemtrails, etc. With the concurrent loss of oxygen from the death of the plankton worldwide, but especially in the Pacific from Fukushima, the world is dying at a exponentially increasing rate everyday. All nuclear technology must be banned for the lethal weapon of mass destruction it is. Barium must not be used in chemtrails.

      • yeah… chemtrails… we have had no chemtrail planes present in NW UY skies since 16 Aug – 7 days no tracks in the sky visible. Yesterday I was thinking, hmm… seems like more bird activity close to the ground and in trees/shrubs in the yard than there was before the planes stopped… today we have what appears to be primarily natural clouds, some rising cumulus even! This past week I can see heavy haze/pollution build up on the horizon and it seems to have been "dissipating" and maybe some of our clouds today are chemtrails, but not from the primary source, it's possibly a second hand effect I see mixed in, maybe as the crap sorts itself out and rises with the winds… a transpiration effect. I sent my geiger counter to Dana, so, if there's any above normal detectable radiation as this stuff falls out, I won't know.

        • This is NOT chemtrails…If you are going to comment on my findings please leave comments IN the page NOT on ENENEWS! Please read my CesiumSky image site. And then tell us about Barium137 forming IN THE AIR from Cesium137 click my name for more info. The Barium in jet fuel is from using Barium in the drilling fluids. Please learn the difference!

      • name999 name999

        ontological, yes. It is not so severe on the East Coast where I am now, but it was very bad in the NW. And the pine trees are sagging and droopy with little shine to the needles which are turning rust color and falling off.
        How blind people have become to ignore this.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      “A number of independent researchers have demonstrated that long-term, relatively low levels of radiation may wreak up to 1000 times more biological havoc than the currently accepted ‘risk levels’ that are being used as reference points for decisions about licensing and operating nuclear plants.
      “In 1972, a researcher in Canada, Dr. Abram Petkau, found that when cells were irradiated slowly, a smaller total dose was needed to cause damage. Since this critical discovery it has been verified that a small dose of radiation over a long time is more damaging than one larger dose. Imagine the ramifications! This means that the small amounts of radiation that are released from the everyday operation of the world's 400 nuclear plants are doing much more damage than calculated.
      “This discovery, known as the ‘Petkau Effect,’ showed that the amounts of radiation that are legally released from nuclear power plants, combined with the leaks, spills, and accidents, are a cause of extreme damage to our health because continuous low-level exposures produce hundreds to thousands of times more free radicals than the same dose delivered at one time, as in an X ray, for example.
      “Dr. Ernest Sternglass, retired Emeritus Professor of Radiological Physics at the University of Pittsburgh and a pioneering researcher in the field of radiation health, explains in his 1978 book…

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        [cont.] Secret Fallout the implications of this new understanding: ‘Doses of radiation delivered slowly and continuously over extended periods of time are hundreds of times as damaging biologically as short, high intensity exposures of the same total dose. This was made clear in 1972 by Dr. Abram Petkau who discovered that at low doses of radiation absorbed at low rates, the dominant biological damage is produced by highly toxic molecules called free radicals.’…”

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      The Petkau Effect: Nuclear Radiation, People and Trees Hardcover – June 1, 1992
      by Ralph Graeub (Author)

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Everything is stressed..talked with a guy who buys motor homes in Washington and Oregon. In my informing him of Fukushima Nightmare and this web site I told him cancer rates will skyrocket.

    Then he states he has a throat tumor and has surgery scheduled via Obamacare, which he states is a nightmare, but it will be free, since he makes no money. I asked do you smoke..he stated no! 🙂

    There you go and many, many more are on the way… 🙁

  • We Not They Finally

    Nick we live in a holographic universe….Quantum mechanics is the key to understanding how Consciousness is part of the process.Thats why Nassim Haramein is proving Einsteins unified field theory that shows how the microcosm and macrocosm works with the same rules.
    What is happening is that radiation is destroying the DNA and altering our world enormously in a devastating fashion that leaves us in crisis.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      The universe is not holographic. Cancer is very real and our earth being destroyed by radiation is very real. Death by radiation is not because you are not smiling enough. The mutations you see and the death of the Pacific Ocean is not because of misperceptions of your consciousness or unconceiousness. The effects of radionuclides is real and scientific provable.

      “Nassim Haramein is a Swiss physics crank, one of the many who claim to have a Unified Field Theory he calls the Haramein-Rauscher Metric,[1] in collaboration with real-but-somewhat-cranky physicist Elizabeth Rauscher. He claims this as a new solution to Einstein's Field Equations that incorporates torque and Coriolis effects.
      “Despite his claims, he's virtually unknown to mainstream physics, and the only people who take him seriously are the kind of people who listen to Coast to Coast AM.[2] For a taste of his claims, assorted clips from his talks can be found on YouTube. Many of his papers can be downloaded from his website (he doesn't even get his stuff onto arXiv). …”

      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        You'll do anything to prove a point …VanneV.
        Perhaps hologram is the wrong term for what they are trying to describe 'it'.

        Why would you use ..Rational Wiki ..after what they say about Enenews?

        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

          PS.. Hologram is the wrong term.

        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

          See it? .the whole summation of our work at Enenews according to them.

          This set more rational than others?

          • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

            Somewhere beyond the scientist's map of mathematics .. which they use to try and describe the natural world ..and not quite as mythical as ..the swipe of the hand of God a 'binding thing'… the matrix of order in the Universe.
            That to which.. other entities seem to respond.
            Human's do not.
            Well ..some do..
            But what is needed is collective motion be participants.
            Truly ..never knowing how far the wave travels…
            A paradigm shift..
            All of it…

        • West Aussie West Aussie

          Just had a look at the site and I know this mind-set, Heart. The people who control those sites are robots who only accept programming from their controllers. Sites like that are part of the pyramid that inform and form the brainwashed masses into blindly accepting their predicament as a promising career in the making. Just so long as they can stay inside the reservation, so to speak. Got to make sure they don't spout the wrong thoughts or engage in speculation that may tag you as a non-conformist. Or the worst of all possible charges….A Conspiracy Theorist!!!
          I reread 1984 the other day and it just explains sites like that as intrinsic to the maintenance of the Matrix so well yet the book was written so long ago.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

          “…Genetic Fallacy: The genetic fallacy is the claim that an idea, product, or person must be untrustworthy because of its racial, geographic, or ethnic origin. "That car can't possibly be any good! It was made in Japan!" Or, "Why should I listen to her argument? She comes from California, and we all know those people are flakes." Or, "Ha! I'm not reading that book. It was published in Tennessee, and we know all Tennessee folk are hillbillies and rednecks!" This type of fallacy is closely related to the fallacy of argumentum ad hominem or personal attack, appearing immediately below….”

          • clamshellernh clamshellernh

            In the press conference MR MOUSEAU ads is his specialty is genetics and entomology and they need funding as the costs are enormous to do genetic testing , no one is doing this in japan
            These studies need to be independent and unbiased as well and not to mention fact /evidence based and rigorous
            Until the world has these studies to fall back on , visual cues are not enough ! We want to wake up the masses on how low dose radiation affects our future generations and soon to get us out of la la land

            For those of you that have taken the time to watch this press conference in it's entirety
            Please take note

            This ongoing crisis in japan is going to cost hundreds of billion dollars to clean up
            Just look a than affords decommissioning costs

            Please tell me how much graft will be done
            Is this the motivation of TEPCO I ask ?
            Because it is shaping up to look that way

            Give these scientists less than one percent of that

            And give it to them now !! And while we are waiting for these studies
            We need to save the Japanese people , get them out of japan NOW
            Tell these people the truth

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

          “…There are two things that it seems Haramein does, time and time again, that I feel no-one with any integrity should ever do:
          1. He misunderstands the most basic ideas of physics in video presentations and interviews, and presents papers that are flawed throughout;
          2. and at the same time, he claims to have insights into the problems that the top physicists in the world are currently working on, and to be solving fundamental issues in physics.
          For me, anyone who can do both these things – whether it is deliberate or not – is acting irresponsibly and is misleading people. Surely if anyone is suggesting such a view of Haramein, and giving sound reasons for it, it should be taken seriously….”

        • name999 name999

          heart, "rational Wiki"??? What a bunch of BS, who came up with that…oh, let me guess.

          • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

            The current Trustees are:
            David Gerard
            Stabby the Misanthrope
            Tmtoulouse (Operations Manager, incumbent


            " I am an editor here just like everyone else and that is my primary role. However, due to my arcane and magical powers I can alter things on the site server. That means I can install wanted extensions, do some bug checking, and other random such things. I am also pretty handy with programming, which means I can "create" functions and extensions people think are a good idea but don't exist. I can also create "wiki bots" that do mundane tasks normal people shouldn't have to.

            If there is an extension you wish to see installed, or some other change made to the mediawiki software you can let me know on my talk page or e-mail me."

            For service above and beyond the call of the goat?

            I'm this guy. Or, if you prefer, this one. Or my home page. Or my fake news blog. Or even the unofficial official RationalWiki blog.

            Best way to get hold of me is to email I am so real-name that I publicly post my phone number on the Internet (+44 7733 223 584, email is always preferred, usually goes to message, I do check them promptly though).

            My pet robot is called Divabot. KILL, BOY! KILL!

            I am a volunteer sysadmin for the RationalWiki Foundation boxes, still making sense of the damn thing.

            I am also one of the moderators. Play nice, now."


      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        Vanne i am biting my tongue again , please stop derailing us
        What is your intent ? Oh please don't !

    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      We not finally I just got turned on to this mans site .
      I really like some of the info he shares
      Extremely spiritual and I need a dose of that from time to time
      Thanks for sharing and be blessed

  • dosdos dosdos

    The chasm between threshold and no threshold is fed by empirical results, and the cover up is feeding heavily on it. A person receives a dose of radiation and doesn't feel any immediate effect from it. They therefore believe that the radiation did not affect them, since there are lots of people out there telling them not to worry.

    Should a few years down the road, they feel the effect in some mutation of DNA, they tend to attribute it to mercury in the water, cigarette smoking, preservatives in food, asbestos in buildings, all of which are also capable of mutating DNA. Because the non-discernable effect they received from the radiation, thanks to the threshold myth that the nuclear industry has established and they bought into, they would doubt that the problem is nuclear related.

    Probably the worst are those who say that the outbreak of thyroid cysts and tumors can not be attributed to Fukushima Daiichi, because it takes at least four years to become established. They call anyone who might suggest contrary as being an ignorant fear monger who doesn't understand science. (The worst enemy of science is one who understand just enough science to become a danger to mankind, ie, an engineer.)

  • dosdos dosdos

    I can attest that radiation can be painless. A couple of years ago (May 2012), I was admitted into a hospital in Austin, Texas, severe pain in my right kidney. I was given an abdominal CATscan, which discovered a massive abdominal aortic aneurism. There was no pain from the CATscan, and I'm still alive today. I beat roughly 100 to 1 odds and survived the surgery and post-op recovery. (90% don't make it to the hospital in time. Half who do don't leave the OR alive. Half of those who survive surgery don't leave the hospital alive. Mine was one of the worst they had seen.)

    Under threshold, there is no immediate observable physical. Granted, I was in the third worst pain I'd experienced in my life, but you don't feel radiation at less than lethal doses. I recovered pretty quickly, though there are hypertension and cardial issues that limit my activity. But there were no real obvious effects from the CATscan.

    However, late last year, I started developing small growths on my body. They're small bumps on the skin, barely large enough to knick while shaving. None appear to be malignant, at least yet. But the timeframe was about 18 months, the same timeframe they discovered in Chernobyl.

    • dosdos dosdos

      There is also the xenon release from Fukushima, a little over a year earlier. I had been suffering from a low grade respiratory infection at the time, just recovering, so I was sensitive to it. The effect lasted about three half-life cycles and faded out, a couple of weeks. The low grade fever I had had before returned, which is consistent with xenon isotope inhalation.

      I don't think the aneurism was caused entirely from the xenon, but it certainly might have contributed. Radiation ingestion can affect the circulatory system. Texas was spared much of the other isotopes because of wind patterns, but we got hit by xenon as badly as anyone in the US, except maybe Florida.

      I am paying attention to my body. Granted, without the CATscan, I have no doubt I would not be here today. I agreed because of the pain and its nature. And my intuition was correct. It bought me years on my life. I have a good immune system. But I don't fool myself in thinking that it couldn't have adverse affects down the road. The surgeon told me that my organs were all in excellent shape at the time of surgery. So if something develops, I know pretty well where to point.

  • danger kitty danger kitty

    This paper: by Dugle & Hawkins describes exactly what we are seeing re: the failure of chlorophyll.
    It's pay for view- $30- and pro nuke author. Also discusses the leaf mutations-gross asymmetry- in Fraxinus(ash). WHICH I AM SEEING here and now in California.
    The paper is about effects of gamma radiation on ash. The link above is just the abstract but it says a lot. My take is that the very existence of these mutated leaves- speaks to how much gamma we really got.
    Ash trees exist in every county of the US, they are obviously an indicator species. At present the mutants are 2-4℅ of leaf total per tree. Everyone- find the mutants- they are absolute proof.

    • danger kitty danger kitty

      Another useful paper:
      Same author and it's free.On the IAEA website no less! Called shrubs of the field irradiator- it describes what gamma radiation does to 100 different shrubs. Apparently it's not always mutation. This way, if there are no ash trees near you, maybe there's one of these shrubs. Everybody can join the scavanger hunt! Proof is all around us, and in some of us sadly.
      While you're at the IAEA website, check out some of the other 'scientific' papers. Barf bag at the ready- whoremesis abounds.

      • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

        @danger kitty; +311!!! Nice resource find! Now I've got plenty of reading material to download & save for the long days I spend sitting in the corner between my wife's crowded chemo infusion room sessions and the elevators @ our hospital! Sometimes the wifi there doesn't work or she gets seizures that raise the "Code Blue" alarm,which gives me just enough time to close the laptop,yank the plug from the outlet and trot alongside the gurney from my station near the elevators they use to whisk her to the ER where cellphones & wifi don't work but the files & folders I keep on a stick drive that come from 'newser pals such as yours have kept me from succumbing to the madness our fragile,trouble-ridden,sickly post-311 lives are brought to the limit of what we can withstand. Reading of the methods available offering proof of the damage to ecosystems directly supports evidence of the very reason I have to watch loved ones suffer & die for the benefit of & at the behest of the elite bastards producing poisons,bombs & the dirtiest electric power & their profit margin! For every loved one lost to their devices I will choose ten of "them" to send back to Hell where they were spawned. The list is growing as fast as the new symptoms of cancer returning to my wife-God forgive me for what I do if I'm still alive & able on the day following her death. I thought I'd evolved beyond ability to harbor this level of pure hatred for anything or anyone[?]!-until 311,that is! 🙁 TTYL….

        • danger kitty danger kitty

          Johnny B.,
          Glad you find those resources useful and a way to pass the time. Hospitals are grim places and your time there sounds grimmer and sadder than most.Your posts always bring tears — and I'm at the Post Office! But don't ever ever stop posting and fighting– the world needs to hear your story and the fight keeps us alive.
          My best to you and your wife.

        • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

          p.s., Sorry about any typos and/or my unique use of the keyboard & characters in my posts/rants. It's not my intention to confuse,disrupt,distract or derail threads of great importance but often note that I'd wound up posting comments that could be construed as "OT". To be honest,at the time I'm inspired to start banging on the keyboard EVERYTHING I'd just read or seen with my own eyes or gone through becomes a blur of horrific events,facts & intertwined issues holding the increasing threat of personal impact to loved ones,friends,the environment & last but not least-myself! I trust my friends here to do the math & set out facts I'm neither qualified nor have the time to do myself. The ONLY people I consider true "friends" are 'NEWSERS I've yet to have the pleasure of meeting personally.While some might laugh or use the comment/fact to belittle & discredit me & my anti-nuke sentiment,I'm proud of you guys & gals here with very few exceptions & respect even the most bitter personalities among those who've been here since the 311 ELE began as long as we can agree on the issue that brought us all here for the right reasons!="the Big Nuke govt.sanctioned & complicit global poisoning for profit cartel & exposing their little pompous,sell-out pimps still promoting the hopelessly failed/flawed & obsolete industry/infrastructure"! 🙁 [cont'd]…

          • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

            [cont'd]- They come back YEARS after their initial false,understated & scripted data,findings & assessments fed the continuing public denial & apathy or maybe I should say YEARS after their lies & false assertions of "no threat to public health & safety" began taking it's toll & exacting unprecedented loss of life & suffering had begun! Had they spoken frankly & outlined the massive & "inconvenient" changes that were necessary when TBTB still had a chance of doing right by the people who trusted,supported & empowered them but chose to remain on the path that offered the elite more material wealth & power despite the complete destruction of life & the planet they never owned or had the hearts or intellect to maintain & protect whether their choices leading to self-destruction was intentional or via incompetence & "money-madness" probably doesn't matter at this point of the "end-game" because it's crystal clear that the most important & effective measure they had was not an "option",but was the "MANDATORY" & completely global SHUT DOWN of nuclear power plants & fuel processing facilities and shifting every available resource & scientific focus on finding ways to stop further 311 releases & develop remedial technology for crucially vital farmlands,ocean & freshwater resources & keep wildlife habitats/refuges & human population centers habitable & sooner than Shitium-311 takes to decay! "Half-lives" describes post-311 life-expectancy of life forms ingesting…

            • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

              it! 🙁 … Sandy's gotten much sicker again and I'm tasked with trying to get my mom to follow up with cancer treatments for the cancer she was just diagnosed with now too! How the hell do I find words of encouragement or enthusiasm capable of inspiring her to go through the harsh,toxic treatment regimens I learned fast,hard & up close & personal following the endless waves of radiation crossing oceans & mountains and accumulating in every aspect of life & the environment??!! I feel like I'm a lying,selfish piece of shit for trying to get people I need & love to undergo what's necessary for them to survive & live a bit longer in a crap world,run by crap people only to ingest more Shitium-311 into their increasingly immunity-deficient bodies that haven't & WON'T get a "break" from further irradiation & exposure to radiologically mutated pathogens like Ebola,etc. even if they miraculously beat the TRUE odds of survival during the initial cancers & radiation damages incurred??!! I'd probably embrace the idea posted here by a good 'newser friend re;recent post that included the question,"maybe it would be more merciful,wiser to just unleash the arsenal of nuke WMD's"?Seems once people know & understand the implications & live(& DIE)this(slow-ELE) way, the idea of being vaporized or die simultaneously alongside everyone else they love(or hate)instead of witnessing their painful demise or worse,dying 1st,leaving them alone & scared waiting their turn to die?!IDK…

              • PlowboyGrownUp

                Do you know about this Dr?

                I tried too late to get my sister to go there. She took more than one types of chemo. She passed on last month.

                Also have heard good reports about Cancer Centers of America.

                Then there's this for…:


                • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

                  Thanks Plowboy; I'm confident that our hospital & specifically Oncology Dept. did the best they could with my wife's stage 3B IBCancer & we'll know the extent of their latest findings & changes to her treatment plan sometime this upcoming week,but I'm not optimistic about it or the cause of her suffering all 5 types of seizures lately coupled with sudden onsets of severe dementia & disorientation. I'm not really sure about how (or if I even should?!)let any of the hospital staff associated with her many health issues including the behavioral health shrink & therapist treating her for depression & emotional conditions "expected" under the circumstances but I don't think I can take another ordeal like last week's event that I had to convince her while physically trying to control/restrain her gently away from the busy traffic 5 feet away & 50 feet from the door to safety!(she outweighs me by 150+lbs and I had the dog on his leash & her medicine bag & portable o2 tank & house keys in the other hand/arm!)She didn't even seem to know who I was & at that moment,neither did I! 🙁 Just when I had her staggeringly moving towards the door to safety a shady,grubby-looking weirdo approached us ignorant of the fact that she was freaking out while someone(with him?)passed from behind us.Our little Mighty Dog's reaction allowed me just enough room to get her moving again while strongly suggesting the dude f#*k off asap & took 2 hours to medicate,calm & bring back my girl…

                  • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

                    cont'd(sorry); Guess how I figured out that the person who passed us from behind was with the creep on the street?, My mom noticed a large rust-colored bloodstain spreading along my lower,left side of my back and upon further inspection I pulled the broken point,3 or 4 inches of a round,thin metal file out of the stab wound on my back!!! I had to stay awake & keep close watch on my wife all night & once the bleeding stopped I figured I'm okay as long as it was healing & doesn't hurt. But this is an example of what began with syncope & seizures to my then-38 yr old wife of 23 years in late 2011 after she was drenched going to,from & during her work in the March-April-May Spring rains with seizures first followed by super-aggressive cancer diagnosed on Valentine's Day Feb.2012.
                    IDK,if I can just get her out of this industrially polluted shithole in Chicago,Exelon's HQ & reactor fleet flagship state,IL without more BS or her becoming "institutionalized" or with cancer found to have metastasized in her brain maybe we've got a chance of beating this whole mess[?]! Lately I saw some awesome stuff here from some good souls down in Belize and my wife grew up eating country food & loves her fruit & veggies!It's a nice idea,thought,plan to shoot for & I actually dreamed about it in an awesome light compared to the restless,empty,jumpy nightmare-ridden naps I've managed over the past 3 years.Getting my mom to undergo treatment is yet another TALL order[?]! 🙁 …Take Care…

                  • PlowboyGrownUp

                    My best thoughts and wishes for you and yours, Johnny B.

                • danger kitty danger kitty

                  Johnny Blade,
                  Hey, that dream you dreamt about living in Belize? A rare good sleep in these 3+ years of nightmare? Take it as a sign, Johnny, from your squad of guardian angels. Ya gotta have that many; nobody can keep on keeping on like you do with what you're dealing with, without tons of heavenly help.
                  I know it might seem unreachable but a thousand mile journey begins with….you already know that one. So act 'as if ' you're there: surf Google earth to get the lay of the land, cruise the web for property listings, learn the towns, demographics, job opportunities. Pick a spot, be there. Don't go there. be there. That should prime the synchronistic pump for you. Doors will open. If you share the search for your new home, that already exists, with Sandy, how could it not get her life force pumping strong. Share your choices with us, I like map travel and some days I'm good at tracking down info. And remember that squad of angels. Tell them to show you more.
                  Love to you both, d.k.

  • Jebus Jebus

    The world is slowly acknowledging the truth…

    India Court Orders Uranium Corp. to Probe Deformities Near Mines

    India’s sole uranium mining company is being ordered by a regional court to disclose radiation levels and the presence of any heavy metals in soil and water in a cluster of villages with reports of unusual numbers of deformed and sick children.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      India has a huge, horrible cancer rate/problem..horrible! 🙁

      We are destroying the only planet that can support our form of life and that we inhabit…Earth!

    • Angela_R

      The Uranium mines in India are taking back the Nuclear Waste
      I find it hard to credit, that any thinking human being could believe that mined uranium is the same as Uranium that has been through the Nuclear Process. Firstly, Uranium is found as a very small component of an ore body, which is later removed from the ore.

      Uranium is composed of a number of isotopes. The radioactive isotope/s are what is coveted for use in the Nuclear Process, these are then separated in nuclear reactors to provide the fissile material desired.

      Though considered 'spent', many toxic materials have been formed, some of which are highly concentrated, radioactive and unstable.

      • West Aussie West Aussie

        Agreed wholeheartedly Angela_R. The transuranic wastes are qualitatively and qualitatively different from anything we take from the earth in the first place. It boggles my mind at the witches brew that is being fermented at WIPP as I write and I agree with Chris Busby that the waste should be kept above ground and guarded 24/7 by the nuke engineers and their children after they're gone (on and on down through the generations. 70 or so at least) so that if an accident or leak happens it can be cleaned up and re-contained (we hope). Unlike WIPP that is doing God knows what with it's drums of badly packaged and poorly documented transuranic waste. Deep underground where it can build into an eventual uncontrollable eruption of gasses and particulate matter from the unknown number of critical events taking place over time down there. How would anyone know? As far as I have read it's too radioactive to enter at all.

        • West Aussie West Aussie

          oops, should read qualitatively and quantitatively different…

        • Angela_R

          West Aussie, the atom should never have been split, yet it was. After the first atomic bomb, the waste should have been neutralized and there should never have been another; but some pursued "Power" not just energy.

          My anger, at present, it against those who want to use the indigenous people.

      • PlowboyGrownUp

        Hopefully they (India) won't start making ammunition out of "depleted" uranium, like U no who, and shoot it up around the world, same U no who has a quota of so many traincar loads per day manufactured and shipped out of McAlister, OK.

      • itsanuclearwar

        According to Leuren Moret:

        Not only did Windscale/Sellafield radioactive emissions contaminate the Irish Sea, all of England, Scotland, the Scandinavian fisheries, and the Arctic, but the radiation
        was carried on ocean currents to India.

        Estimated to be 60 times stronger than the combined force of all the world’s rivers, the “Great Conveyor Belt” distributes heat around the globe and plays an important role in regulating Earth’s climate (Wallace Broecker).
        Source: “Achieving Sustainable Development in the 21st Century,” the Earth Institute at Columbia University (2007), p.27.

        Ramaswami Ashok Kumar, an Indian electrical engineer and expert on nuclear power, has presented statistical evidence that reveals nuclear pollution from Sellafield was carried by ocean currents to India.(10) Whenever the Windscale/Sellafield accident occurrences and peak releases were taking place in 1957, 1971-1978, and 1983-1984, Indian infant mortality rates increased (Fig. 5), just as Indian infant mortality rates increased in response to atmospheric tests (1949-1963) and the Chernobyl accident in 1986.(12)

        Kumar’s data estimates that approximately 30 million Indian babies have died or were stillborn from 1950-2008, as a result of exposure to atmospheric testing, Chernobyl, and Sellafield radioactive emissions.

        Original article at Namaste Publishing

        Original article at Namaste Publishing http://namastepub

  • danger kitty danger kitty

    The point I'm making in my posts just above is that the effects of radiation on genomes are not happening JUST in Japan! It's here in California too. I see the proof everyday. And it's not just ash trees. It's starting to show in Sycamore (Platanus) and others too. Gross asymmetry-
    ( MOST leaves are symmetrical)
    To see pics check out nuclear arborist on twitter.

    • itsanuclearwar

      According to Leuren Moret:

      "The Rockefellers own and control nuclear power in the US, and have vast uranium holdings. James Conant and Edward Teller were both “Rockefeller contractors” and Zionist scientists from the beginning of their careers, believing firmly in genocide, depopulation, and population control through the use of Weapons of Mass Destruction. In the 1920′s, the Rockefellers introduced eugenics(29) to the United States, and funded the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Germany where the Nazi scientist Mengele trained. Eugenics recently has been renamed the “Genome Project” and peddled to the public as a “benefit” to society, but the real purpose is to develop ethnic specific bioweapons."

      Original article at Namaste Publishing


      • itsanuclearwar

        The genocidal depopulation agenda through radioactive emissions was not lost on Dr. John Gofman, a Livermore nuclear weapons lab insider charged with studying the biological effects of ionizing radiation at the Livermore Lab in the early 1960′s. After fighting nuclear power all the way to the Supreme Court, as the cause of death of future generations, where the case was lost, he co-authored a book in 1970 with Arthur Tamplin, ‘Population Control’ Through Nuclear Pollution. The depopulation agenda behind nuclear technologies was clear even then.

        .In the twentieth century, civilian populations became the real target of wars and a global Zionist depopulation agenda. It turns out that Windscale/Sellafield has been a major player in that agenda. The University of California, home of the Manhattan Project, will forever be known as the “University that poisoned the world”, the cement of massive corruption linking all political and scientific elites across the global spectrum.

        Original article at Namaste Publishing


        • itsanuclearwar

          Leuren Moret is an Environmental and Scientist Geoscientist. She is an expert on atmospheric dust, and how it moves and is transported around the world. She was an expert witness at the International Criminal Tribunal for Afghanistan in Tokyo. She is an independent scientist and international expert on radiation and public health issues. She has worked internationally on radiation issues, educating citizens, the media, members of Parliaments and Congress and other officials. Leuren became a whistleblower in 1991 at the Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab after experiencing major science fraud on the Yucca Mountain Project. She is a former Environmental Commissioner for the City of Berkeley and President of Scientists of Indigenous People.

          Original article at Namaste Publishing

  • Go Mousseau go!!! Ripple effect please. And tip it 🙂

    I think we have a winner and wish I could see the vid. I'll check for a transcript tomorrow but he sounds good from the few quotes up top and what the rest of you are saying.

    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      Thanks last chance ..this speaks volumes ..look at the body language !
      Can't put my finger on it …I wish you could see it I forgot ..anyway if you do find a transcript can you post it to those at may be here in the same situation ?? Be blessed

  • jec jec

    What is really sad, EPA is likely to raise the 'dose' limit to 350–after getting comments from a shill which was posted. Did not see any of our posts considered. Anyone else check their comments? Did they get considered? EPA is carefully 'handling' the comments and NOT posting anyone who objects to EPA "railroaded" efforts to do the pro-nuke decisions. What happened to 'transparency'..HUH? The only difference between USA and Japan..none of our Nuke plants have melted thru and exposed the entire USA population–YET. That we know of!!! Its only a matter of time. TMI was a melt thru, but not a Fukushima..and the event was 'handled'…via media control. That is NOT public safety!

    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      @jec I get them everyday in an email from the site , what troubles me is how just writing our info in regard to not raising the levels is we have no back up , I suggested and still suggest that we should fax this and save the faxes to send to our constituents , or litter the wh lawn with them , I don't know but just having it on a website is not enough , don't worry though we have much more to do on this subject so hone your skills …

    • nedlifromvermont

      @jec: TMI was a partial melt down, not melt out … the fuel stayed in the RPV; it was all damaged and about half melted …

      the containment was breached and the xenon and iodine releases were high and real … early on in the process … our friendly NRC covered this up … to avoid panicking the public …

      Ernest Sternglass tells about being summoned to Harrisburg to a press conference and measuring high levels of gamma in downtown Harrisburg, PA, in his book, "Secret Fallout."

      As a result of TMI, Admiral Hyman Rickover (father of the nuclear navy, designer of nuclear propusion systems for US submarine fleet, which led directly to the development of light water reactors for electric generation) … was persuaded the civilian nuclear power program had been a mistaken boondoogle, brought to life by ruthless and greedy businessmen … exactly what Einstein had been saying for years …

      Way to go Big Nuke … Silly Wankers …

  • W8R W8R

    Radiation aside, consider this:
    Take PU for example. ( Although it applies to any transuranic element) Even if it was not radioactive, it's still the most toxic heavy metal on earth. It does not need radiation to kill you with slow cancers. It can do so directly, as a poison.
    Think Arsenic on steroids.

  • W8R W8R

    "The difference between USA and Japan"
    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
    There have been several reactor explosions and melt downs in the United States. They just never chose to tell the public.

  • W8R W8R

    I think we need some perspective here.
    TMI did not melt down. Some fuel was exposed to open air, and created a Hydrogen explosion. Damage to the facility was minimal. The industry used TMI as a proof of concept.
    " See, even the worst case scenario isn't so bad"
    Rocketdyne Corporation had a full on explosion and meltdown 40 miles north of Los Angeles in the late 50's.
    The public was never told anything.

    Fukushima is on a level all its own.
    3 full meltdown core breachs. All Fuel EX containment.
    Nothing else in the history of nuclear has ever come close.
    Throw in that one or maybe two of them were running MOX fuel. Then put the place on a beach in Japan.
    Chernobyl was a firecracker compared to Fukushima.
    Unit 1 alone was considerably larger than Chernobyl.
    Some of the largest mark 1's ever built.
    There's nothing to compare Fukushima to.
    And I was before they left it burning for over 3 years.

    • Yes, the reactor core at TMI2 did indeed melt down. And into the bottom head to a depth in millimeters, but it did not melt through. The primary and secondary systems did not experience hydrogen explosions, those occurred in the containment atmosphere as a result of the off-gassing involved in manipulation of the pressurizer relief in-line block valve as a means of regaining control of the system. The containment atmosphere is normally kept at a negative 3 psig during operation and is accessed via an airlock. The biggest of the atmospheric explosions pegged the gages at 30 psig. That's as high as they could measure, no one knows how high it actually went. It deformed the metal frame of the main equipment hatch so badly they had to cut out a new hole for big equipment and component extraction years later during clean-up and decommissioning.

      Just clarifying so it is known that TMI2 should be listed among the rest of the meltdowns. Its containment structure held, that is why the environmental effects were nowhere near the notables. Yes, Fukushima is a whole other ball game and needs to be the last straw for ALL nuclear generation. Sadly, that's not happening.

      • Jebus Jebus

        Thanks for that on TMI. Venting. TMI's atmospheric releases were covered up immensely.

        As for the end of commercial power, it will end one way or another.

        Either by the reality of the situation, or by the next catastrophic failure of humans in denial…

        • You know, I honestly believed all those years ago (when I was young and naive) that TMI2 would be the end of commercial nukes. Because it HAD to be, and it was in the public eye, not one of the meltdowns they could keep secret. Turns out is wasn't the end, it was just the beginning. They won't be building more, but they've plenty of recently re-licensed rustbuckets left to transmute almost-lead into gold until those melt down and blow up and the utilities walk away with all that gold intact. That's the deal our bomb-hungry government made with them, now we get to live (and/or die) with it. Nothing good could ever have come from this technology – its name is Death.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

            There are new reactors being built clear around the world. And my senator wants to build 2,000 new reactors in the US alone. Chine is building 60 new reactors or thereabouts.

            • Jebus Jebus

              Proposed anne. Not today. They take decades to be built. Future investments will determine new builds.
              One more major incident will seal commercial nuclear's fate quickly. It will happen. Too much data now. Too much truth for nuclear to function. Too much safety to be cost effective. Too much graft to succeed. Not enough profit to invest. Not enough investment for a return…

              • Nuclear is dying. They would have to build thousands in the next 2 years to even make a dent; not going to happen.

                Renewables are accelerating, nuclear is dying.

                The Nuclear Goliath has been shot in the head. He just does not know it yet, there are still some synapses firing as the monster falls.

                Nuclear as a percent of total global energy has been dropping since many years ago.

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                Plans For New Reactors Worldwide
                (Updated March 2013)
                • “Nuclear power capacity worldwide is increasing steadily, with over 60 reactors under construction in 13 countries.
                • “Most reactors on order or planned are in the Asian region, though there are major plans for new units in the USA and Russia.
                • “Significant further capacity is being created by plant upgrading.
                • “Plant life extension programs are maintaining capacity, in USA particularly.
                “Today there are some 435 nuclear power reactors operating in 31 countries plus Taiwan, with a combined capacity of over 370 GWe. In 2011 these provided 2518 billion kWh, about 13.5% of the world's electricity.
                “Over 60 power reactors are currently being constructed in 13 countries plus Taiwan (see Table below), notably China, South Korea and Russia….
                “In China, now with 15 operating reactors on the mainland, the country is well into the next phase of its nuclear power program. Some 26 reactors are under construction and many more are likely to be so in 2012. Those under construction include the world's first Westinghouse AP1000 units, and a demonstration high-temperature gas-cooled reactor plant is due to start construction. Many more units are planned, with construction due to start within three years. But most capacity under construction is the largely indigenous CPR-1000 design. China aims at least to quadruple its nuclear capacity from that operating and under construction by 2020….”

                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV


                  I wish it weren't so, but it doesn't seem that the world has yet realized the lethality of nuclear energy.

                  • nedlifromvermont

                    Hi VAnneV! I've seen several lists … and I believe the 435 number includes many Japanese reactors that will likely remain shut down …

                    The actual number operating is closer to 385 … and many are older than thirty years and will soon close …

                    This does not include the smaller research/university reactors … but the radioactive inventory for these is small …

                    It's alchemy … and the uranium daughters start life as a fine black powder, if not radioactive gasses tritium, carbon 14, etc.

                    Nasty witch's brew … Technology should not have been green lighted …

                    Way to screw up!!!, greatest generation!! (sarc)

          • nedlifromvermont

            JoyB!! Nice to see you here speaking the truth!!!

            We must rise anew to the challenge and fight to derate the entire fleet, in the next few years at the latest.

            The Russians, the Chinese, the Koreans, the Japanese and the Canadians might get it, eventually, like the Germans ..

            The British seem very hard-headed on nukes and the US NRC charade is simply pathetic …

            But our scorn and mockery of them will register …

            Silly nuketards …

            carry on …

  • Checkmate

    The thing that gives me total peace of mind and complete satisfaction is knowing that these high-rankings gov officials, nukers, pro-nukers, the elite and all expert liars are all being flushed down the same toilet as we are. And I anxiously await to hear news of their health problems reported by the mediaa, like what is happening to us. So there is a silver lining to what is happening and there is a Santa Claus, they are getting their full justice only don't realize it yet…just wait. Or they are so busy dodging radiation they are not having that much fun with all their riches. Which reminds me how does that radioactive caviar on GMO crackers…taste or the sparkling wine from radioactive grapes or flying around in those jets in high levels of radiation or sailing around the ocean with no sea life and bucky balls blowing on the sea breeze???? I love it…bring it on you nuke knucklheads and watch as your family dies right before your very eyes…

    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      Checkmate we ARE getting reports of cancer , but the blame is being places on us for eating too much sugar or smoking …maybe we should get a journalist to do a story on how the cancer industry is growing ..

  • weegokiburi weegokiburi

    Fuck unit one. Unit three

  • weegokiburi weegokiburi

    Or two, or four,
    What about five and six?
    I'm feeling nihilistic. But salvation may be just around the corner
    Remember that smiling protects from radiation effects. Think positive
    Silly link…

  • weegokiburi weegokiburi

    Not are destroying. Have destroyed.

  • Jebus Jebus

    I'm not sure about anyone else, but I have received more truth from that one press conference above, by Dr. Timothy A. Mousseau, than I have from one thousand two hundred and sixty one days of all the "scientists" studies, politicians speechs, and the total MSM cesspool of bullshit news reporting on this planet…

    Thank you Dr. Mousseau, for stepping up.

    All life thanks you, I'm sure…

    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      i agree totally
      He validates all and everything we share here everyday on enenews , what is of the most importance is the
      fact he is a real scientist

      What are your thoughts on his seemingly nervousness on the bigger picture ?
      What I mean is the government agencies set up to protect the word and the Japanese govt as one of the reasons he calls for the press conference
      Minimizing ?

      Sorry for my wordiness

  • athome athome

    I watch this video with great attention and to resume what I remember is that there is no funding for research, even obstacle to resercher, animals and human are affected by radiation but it will take longer for human to develop sikness.

    If you are starving. Do you prefere to have poisoned food or no food ?

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    It's all poisoned now, and yes, we are all eating it! 🙁

    Guy that picked up RV's all over the west coast loves to eat fish, now has tumor in his throat and does not even smoke!

    Don't eat the fish! 🙁

  • And a hearty good luck to all those who say all Pacific ocean seafood is absolutely safe, and they eat it daily.. good for you.. glad you are SOOOO sure.

    You may want to do a yearly cesium check..

    Kind of like people who eat a lot of whale meat in Japan should get a yearly mercury hair analysis test.

    It's SOOO easy to be ABSOLUTELY sure, but the body never lies.

    • name999 name999

      dr, I miss fish more than I can convey. I have eaten it and gotten sick because I miss it so much. But I have tested this theory and it is harder to eat fish and not get ill these days.

  • tsfw tsfw

    Mousseau seems to be holding back a lot, I'd love to be a fly on his wall at dinner time. He could have said more, but could have said less, at least it was coming from a scientific point of view. I'm sick of people like Leuren Monet flapping their mouths and making people think it's all just more conspiracy nonsense. We need more sound professionals like Mousseau to find their spines. Speaking of: whatever happened with David Suzuki? He told the truth, recanted the truth, and hasn't spoken of the subject since. Here's to hoping there's more Mousseau to come and I hope he discusses the radiation seeping into the pacific at his next conference. Not sure how that was avoided in the entire video, but it's a start.

    • itsanuclearwar

      Yea, just what we need more of, "experts" that hold back or as you put it "hold back a lot". Although the experts that hold back that you like have no contract with us, the following definition certainly applies in this regard, at least it should. We need to know everything period. Leuren Moret does not hold back. What you label as "conspiracy nonsense" makes as much sense as saying the 9-11 inside job is a conspiracy theory. You are either ignorant of the facts regarding the particular issue or you want to conceal the facts regarding the particular issue, when you slam Moret as you did. She has the facts to back her play, you on the other hand may very well fit into one or more of the examples listed below.

      Fraudulent Concealment
      Under contract law, a plaintiff can recover from a defendant on the grounds of fraudulent concealment where the defendant (1) concealed or suppressed a material fact; (2) had knowledge of this material fact; (3) that this material fact was not within reasonably diligent attention, observation, and judgment of the plaintiff; (4) that the deferndant suppressed or concealed this fact with the intention that the plaintiff be misled as to the true condition of the property; (5) that the plaintiff was reasonably so misled; and (6) that the plaintiff suffered damage as a result.

      I think what you and others here do not like about Moret is that she knows too much and provides info that exposes your hidden agendas.

      • itsanuclearwar

        @ tsfw, you are saying that Leuren Moret is not a sound professional is total BULL SHIT, making you to look like a shill.

        "Leuren Moret is an Environmental and Scientist Geoscientist. She is an expert on atmospheric dust, and how it moves and is transported around the world. She was an expert witness at the International Criminal Tribunal for Afghanistan in Tokyo. She is an independent scientist and international expert on radiation and public health issues. She has worked internationally on radiation issues, educating citizens, the media, members of Parliaments and Congress and other officials. Leuren became a whistleblower in 1991 at the Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab after experiencing major science fraud on the Yucca Mountain Project. She is a former Environmental Commissioner for the City of Berkeley and President of Scientists of Indigenous People."

        Original article at Namaste Publishing

        Leuren Moret is the most honest and open of all the nuclear experts in the world and you choose to take uncalled for and cheap shots at her. Certainly makes you suspect and calls into question your intentions/agendas here at enenews. What are your intentions? Do you not seek to have all the truths exposed?

  • Thomas DeSoto Thomas DeSoto

    After three years, all continents in the Northern Hemisphere have become negatively effected by toxic radiation, while 40 million citizens living in Tokyo Japan have already received lethal doses of radiation from Fukushima, but to publicly say so or to tell the truth will quickly get you ten years in prison in Japan,… Our National News Media has been totally silent on this issue, which proves the close ties between the largest National News organizations in America and the Nuclear Energy Industry whose Capitalistic ideology leaves us all at risk, as greed and self-serving corporate profiteers would rather move their entire corporate headquarters to some other Country rather than stay right here in America and pay their fare share of taxes. As Burger King and many other corporations are doing everything in their power to avoid paying taxes into our American economy, Republicans in Congress are protecting these corporate profiteers above the health and safety of our children right here at home. Even in San Diego our Republican Mayor vetos a bill to raise the minimum wage as 90% of hard working American taxpayers struggle to survive the economic bigotry and inequality found in our culture today.

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