Senator ‘mortified’ about possible disaster at Unit 4 — ‘Still shakes his head in disbelief’ over Fukushima visit two months ago

Published: June 3rd, 2012 at 5:44 pm ET


Fukushima still feeds lawmakers’ concerns for West Coast
Paul C. Barton
June 3, 2012

More than 14 months after a massive earthquake ripped apart the Fukushima nuclear power complex in Japan, fears persist about how a follow-up natural disaster at the still-fragile site could impact the West Coast of the United States.


[Ron Wyden (Democrat-Oregon)], a senior member of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, still shakes his head in disbelief with what he saw during an April visit to the Fukushima site.


What mortifies Wyden is [an accident causes the Unit 4’s pool of spent fuel rods to drain], plus a possible follow-up earthquake or other disaster befalling the plant before the fuel rods can be made more secure. The Japanese utility, Tokyo Electric Power Co., is proposing to take 10 years to take care of the fuel rods.

“I think that’s too long,” the senator said when interviewed in his Capitol Hill office. “If that (the plant) ruptures, it’s bad news.”


Published: June 3rd, 2012 at 5:44 pm ET


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109 comments to Senator ‘mortified’ about possible disaster at Unit 4 — ‘Still shakes his head in disbelief’ over Fukushima visit two months ago

  • WindorSolarPlease

    I am mortified at this whole disaster and how it is being treated. Mortified that we don't have full disclosure. Mortified that Nuclear Power hasn't ended.

    I admit.. I am scared on how this will end, I would be a fool not to be.

  • "Mortify" is a very strange word choice for Wyden in this context.

    mortify [ˈmɔːtɪˌfaɪ]
    vb -fies, -fying, -fied

    1. (tr) to humiliate or cause to feel shame

    2. (Christianity / Ecclesiastical Terms) (tr) Christianity to subdue and bring under control by self-denial, disciplinary exercises, etc.

    3. (Medicine / Pathology) (intr) to undergo tissue death or become gangrenous

    IS he mortified by the US handling of the disaster?

    it makes no sense for him to be mortified by the Japanese government's handling of it.

    To be mortified usually implies personal complicity.

    • Anthony Anthony

      I believe the context in which Wyden used the word translates as *dumbfounded* *incredulous* or shocked. That's what came to mind as I read his plea.

      • bleep_hits_blades

        Anthony, I didn't find that meaning for the word. (shocked, dumbfounded, incredulous). Yes, pretty obviously that was the meaning he intended to convey. But he didn't choose the right word.

        His use of 'mortified' here would qualify as a 'malapropism.'

        "Malapropism | Define Malapropism at ***

        Malaprop, or malapropism, is the term for misspoken words. 1849, from Mrs Malaprop, character in Sheridan's play "The Rivals" (1775), noted for her ridiculous misuse of large words."

        It's positively shockin' how uneddicated even the eddicated is becomin'. Must be another sign of them thar 'end-times'.

        • Anthony Anthony

          That's nice Bleep, and perhaps I am more educated that you imply. I wrote specifically of the context. Anyone reading the actual sentence in the story where this word has been used can see what I mean.

          • bleep_hits_blades

            Anthony, I wasn't trying to correct you, and I wasn't disagreeing with you. Sorry if it seemed that way.

            It seems the word he might have had in mind was 'horrified;' he probably knows the difference and it was a slip that did not get corrected.

            • Anthony Anthony

              Sorry Bleep I thought you were picking at me….my mistake. Majia is right though, the word relates to a feeling of being mortified finding out you have a foot long piece of toilet paper stuck to your shoe at a party etc….

    • Max1 Max1

      As a Senator, he does play a role…
      … Mortified is apt.

    • WindorSolarPlease

      I'm not sure how he meant it.

      I meant it as shocked beyond belief, and yes I am shocked beyond belief by the US and also by other Countries in this major disaster.

      • Hopefully, this will open up others eyes to what their governments are doing to them. It's alot more than radiation. Murdering monsters the world around.

    • irradiatedinbako

      Please read the highlight given by admin and the original article. The phrase written is "what mortifies Wyden is…" which would be attributable to the author Paul Barton of the article as his own descriptive phrase and written without any direct quotation to Sen Wyden. The news title link by admin is perhaps a little confusing.

      Wyden is *not* quoted as saying "I am mortified" in the article.

    • GeoHarvey

      My dictionary has this definition: "subject to severe and vexing embarrassment."

  • aigeezer aigeezer

    I hope everyone here reads the full piece, not just Admin's snips. There is a lot of spin in it. Teaser:

    "Despite its severity, the Fukushima disaster was not as severe as scenarios that U.S. government scientists have used to assess when it would be necessary to declare fishing areas off limits or interdict food supplies….

    Even 10 times the March 2011 radiation release, Lyman said, would only endanger Japan — and possibly Alaska and U.S. territories.

    For now, he said, scare stories alleging cover-ups of Fukushima's effect on the United States should be disregarded.

    About "95 percent of that is factually inaccurate and wrong," Lyman said"

    Wowsers, as Whoopie might say. It's propaganda-laden, but who is selling what to whom and why?

    • Max1 Max1

      People are trying to convince us that eating MORE radioactive contamination is to be regarded as a safe practice…
      … Like eating MORE mercury is safe.
      … Like eating MORE arsenic is safe.
      … Like drinking MORE tritium is safe.
      … Like breathing MORE cigarette smoke is safe.

      • Max1 Max1

        And as we already have learned from history, for those who learn from history can tell us…
        … Industry science aims to promote and protect the objectives of the industry it was HIRED by.

        "Smoking doesn't cause cancer…"
        It sure does and the science proved it out well before the propaganda machine kicked in to promote the safe and healthy aspects of smoking.

        In this case, substitute the cigarette industry with nuclear industry. REAL science outweighs the propaganda by the paid scientists of the industry they were hired to protect.

        • Smoking does and doesn't cause cancer. In the 1950's, 50% of the population smoked more than a pack a day. Cancer rates were MARKEDLY LOWER. However, in the 50's nuclear testing came in. Tobacco plants suck up radiation. Also, apatite, a radioactive fertilizer was used on tobacco because it was cheap. Cancer rates soared despite decreasing numbers of people smoking and smoking alot less. BTW, second had smoke does not cause cancer, the study used was extremely flawed as the 'second hand' smoke delivered worked out to as much or more than a pack a day smoker.

          Blood money science. Asbestos, Global warming, smoking, and radiation experts are all bought by blood money 'safe' experts. Many times the same scientist for all of the above. Again, murdering scumbags in need of trials for crimes against humanity.

          • Max1 Max1


            … Swimming in a waste treatment sludge pool is bound to cause some infection.

          • Cindy Cindy

            A little off topic..but wanted to respond.
            I actually agree with you on this one. The 800 & some chemicals that are in today's cigs are why more people are getting cancer from smoking and also the chemicals released in the second hand smoke.
            Natives all over the world "smoked" something similiar to tobacco for Hundreds and perhaps Thousand of years with NO ill effects. It's what they've done to tobacco to make it carcenogenic.
            My son smokes..(I'm not very happy about it) but he only smokes American Spirit. It's the "safest" one out there..100% Pure tobacco…no additives whatsoever.
            He says that when he smokes these that he doesn't feel the need to "chain smoke".'s ALL about Money..making Money…Screw the Health of the people. TEPCO is bleeding from all arteries and all they can STILL do is try to save money! Why don't they just Freakin' STOP trying to SAVE MONEY and Help people…they can STILL come full circle and save the world. They can use this opportunity to set the standard and do the "honorable thing" …. but I seriously doubt it will happen.

    • Aigeezer I posted in another thread about this passage.

      Its instructive to look at the source of that quote's vita:

      Edwin Lyman's vita

      he is a theoretical physicist who promotes "safe nuclear."

      There is no evidence that he has a background that would allow him to discuss the biological effects, bio-accumulation, and bio-magnification of radiation on people.

      Of course, he could have learned on his own the way we have.

      However, his assertions demonstrate he has not looked at the literature very carefully.

      • aigeezer aigeezer

        Yes. I agree majia. I hadn't yet checked his bio so I'm glad you got to it. I was wary of the "balance" being set up by Gannett between two Dems in one corner and "a scientist" in the other.

        I sure hope UCS haven't been overrun – they have sometimes been a bright light historically, and have drawn savage political attack in the (recent) past – which I guess also makes them the perfect target to infiltrate.

        How many levels deep do the games go? Who can we believe?

        The TepcoCam seems like the closest thing to the truth available some days. Aieee.

  • dosdos dosdos

    Mortified in this case means "to cause mortification". The context means "scared to death".

  • aigeezer aigeezer

    Tip of iceberg issues:

    1. The piece is from Gannett. It paints two influential Dems as being concerned about Fukushima. It cites an independent source to minimize concerns about Fukushima. No mention of Republicans one way or another.

    2. From Muckety: Connections: Gannett Co., Inc. has direct or once-removed relationships with 541 people, organizations or other entities in our database of the most influential people in America. Under a scoring system that gives more weight to direct links, this score is higher than 99% of all entries.

    3. Gannett director – "Arthur H. Harper current relationships:
    Gannett Co., Inc. – director
    GenNx360 Capital Partners – managing partner
    Monsanto Company – director
    Arthur H. Harper past relationships:
    General Electric Company – division president"

    Lots and lots and lots more if you follow some paths. One more teaser… the Gannett CEO is a director of FM Global. Another director of FM Global has this profile:

    "John A. Luke Jr.
    Gender: Male
    Age in 2012: 63
    Address: Lives and/or works in Richmond, VA
    Wealth class: Multimillionaire
    Politics: Luke is a contributor to Republican committees and campaigns.
    He also has affiliations with conservative think tanks."

    — lots more, no room so I'll squeeze in a fragment only —

    "John A. Luke Jr. current relationships:
    American Enterprise Institute – trustee"

    Check stuff yourself. Start with

    • Max1 Max1

      Sleuthing at it's finest…

    • irradiatedinbako

      Aigeezer .. please name any Republicans or Independents or Libertarians or even Greens who have spoken out against Fuku's dangers as Wyden has.

      I am sure this forum will support their efforts.

      And I suggest the the channel10 source for this piece is a local sacramento california abc affiliate ..

      the author is paul c. Barton, a freelance writer.

      Here is his online resume:

      I think I would start here before suggesting some broader conspiracy.

      • teamplayer

        Thank you.

      • aigeezer aigeezer

        Hi irradiated. Nope, I can't name anyone who has spoken out as Wyden has. What follows from that?

        As for the freelance writer, here are some snippets from the link you posted:

        "Reporter at Gannett News Service, Washington bureau, 1993-2000."

        "Went to the White House numerous times to cover stories for Gannett News Service, including pool coverage of the president."

        "Part of a Gannett News Service team that reported extensively on the implications of the changing ethnic and racial makeup of the United States as it headed into the 21st Century. The stories were compiled by Gannett into a special edition and won a Best of Gannett Award."

        Several others, and…

        …Jeff Stinson, editor in the Money section at USA Today, and former managing editor of Gannett News Service."

        So… I am not suggesting a conspiracy, just commenting on how things work in the corporate and media world.

        • irradiatedinbako

          Hi Aigeezer .. ok .. I will bite on your question "what follows from that" .. in reference to naming a prominent political figure besides Wyden; eg; from another political party. I actually answered a thesis length post a couple of hours ago .. cell connect bumped off and big PIA to retype .. so will try and be very brief.

          My foundational theory .. the two party system in US has become as stagnant and divisive and prone to bloody mess as being labeled a Hatfield or McCoy .. or a Yankee or Confederate.

          Is Wyden being undermined in these sincere Fuku efforts because he is a dem? And half the country hates obama? Aren't there others willing to speak up against the herd mentality?

          It's so unendingly counterproductive.

          I register to vote as undeclared. Don't include me in your polls or assumed demographics. Let me keep you guessing how I will cast my ballot. Earn my vote.

          The best thing for this country is a free market .. viable third parties to break the stalemate and stereotypes .. split the money traps and keep everyone on their toes because they can't predict along two party lines.

          Dance to the people's tune now politicos.

          Lines in the sand are too far drawn apart with two parties so stonewalled. Someone dare draw one between them.

        • irradiatedinbako

          Highlighted as you say from the author's online resume:

          "Reporter at Gannett News Service, Washington bureau, 1993-2000."

          It's 2012. Parse as you see fit. Make the connections as you want to see them. He's looking for work .. I seriously doubt he's being fed what to write from the mythological higher ups characters at Gannett.

          Yes .. I am not stupid or naive about tptb in this world .. but whipping this little news story written for a sacto abc source by a freelance author into a frenzy that seems to question the authenticity of Wyden's concern about Fuku ..

          Is bullshit.

          • aigeezer aigeezer

            Hi again, irradiated. "Whipping… into a frenzy… that seems to question… Wyden's concern…" is not at all what my post was about.

            I don't care a fig about Wyden (or any other politician). I don't know whether he's a hero or a goat. If he's a hero, he's taking his time about getting on stage. If he's a goat he has plenty of company.

            On the other hand… Freelancers with extensive experience in the Gannett system don't just casually interview a senator and hand the results in to a paper. Gannett editors assign stories and/or edit them so that they fit the truth as the Gannett system sees it. There are no "mythological higher ups" at Gannett, and I never claimed there were.

            Gannett is a hierarchy, as are all corporations. There are higher-ups – they are not mythological in the slightest. Their names and affiliations are easily found. There is no conspiracy. There is just networking and messaging and a powerful media empire putting out media stories. There is a corporate culture. It is what it is.

            Inferring why a message is put out is a complicated and error-prone process. I have no idea what the agenda of this particular story is, but I noticed (and provided evidence) that the enterprise that put out the story is extremely well connected to various other key corporate and political players. You are of course free to ignore that information or to decide it is irrelevant to you.

            • aigeezer aigeezer

              An addendum, if I may. I'd like to come at this from another direction and make my point about media empire spin without risk of confounds such as politics or nukes.

              Here's a headline from Reuters today, timestamped 9:45 am ET: "Wall Street rebounds after last week's decline".

              If you read the story under the headline, it says in part: "Stocks rose on Monday after a steep drop in the previous session that erased the Dow industrials' gain for the year."

              It says "rose on Monday", past tense. The markets had not even opened at the time.

              Reading deeper, one sees "The Dow Jones industrial average <.DJI> was up 21.07 points, or 0.17 percent." It's not clear how their sample worked since the markets were not open, but they might have been looking at Dow Futures numbers. Regardless, their headline was apparently based on an increase of about $21 against a base of about $12,100, with a full day of trading yet to come. (The Dow is down as I write this, about an hour later).

              My point is that this is classic msm spin, of the type found in every msm piece that comes our way. Our choices are to take it at face value, to ignore it, or to make our own investigations. You choose your path. I'll choose mine. Life goes on until it doesn't.


              I'm not sure when/whether the story at that link will change, but my quotes above are verbatim now.

              • irradiatedinbako

                Hi Aigeezer .. I know you wanted me to find humor in another post you wrote .. but tonight this one actually made me smile .. the evils and rat trap of the current stock market are a whole nuther ballgame.

                🙂 .. waaay too late tonight and my phone would boot me .. and I probably agree with you on that one.


                • aigeezer aigeezer

                  irradiated, I suspect we're not far apart on many of these issues. This medium tends to exaggerate differences starkly.

                  Peace for sure.

            • irradiatedinbako

              Hi Aigeezer .. I hope this threads logically to your responses. It is difficult to do this on my phone.

              You say you don't care a fig about Senator Wyden .. when he is the only person in US with an ounce of power to influence outside intervention and/or observation by int'l arbitrage and cooperation to actually see how fit or unfit Fuku is. And not rely on Tepco as sole source of information. And all of us here shudder at the thought of relying on Tepco for that .. I am on the west coast.

              Then I challenge you to name another who could or would speak up.
              From any party or country.

              Wyden is something of a hero to me .. but I recognize and have stated here that things progress in steps .. the only thing that this country does in a hurry is declare war.

              • aigeezer aigeezer

                irradiated, my "fig for Wyden" phrase was ill-chosen. I was trying to convey that I was neither bashing nor praising him. I know next to nothing about him. To me, he's just some politician in a foreign land. I understand how he could be a local champion in his jurisdiction and a source of hope.

                … and no, absolutely no – I can't name any other politician in any country who has provided significant hope on the nuke front, and certainly none that I know of here in Canada.

          • aigeezer aigeezer

            irradiated, I hope you're in a mood to smile when you read this one. I don't know whether it supports your world view, mine, neither or both.

            "Conspiracy theorists join the world's elite". It sounds like a bad movie title, like "teenage vampire zombies from Mars" or something, but here it is, from msm:


          • aigeezer aigeezer

            irradiated, a Google search "Paul C. Barton Gannett Washington Bureau" yields thousands of hits, with the first few pages citing article after article written with that byline (like the present article). These occur throughout 2011 and this year to date. Do the search yourself – don't take my word for it.

            One of them, dated May 25, 2012 says "Contact Paul C. Barton at" (I've not shown the email ID here, of course).


            I'm not disputing the online resume you found, rather I'm claiming that the author is an old hand at Gannett, regardless of his job title, and is very prolific on Gannett's behalf on an ongoing basis.

            Furthermore, several of his articles for Gannett appear in various military publications. This is how corporate/government/military/media messaging works. I am not making this stuff up:




            • irradiatedinbako

              Aigeezer .. continued ..

              You have given many things in several posts mostly directed against affiliations with Gannett News ..

              One of the sources you rely upon is a webpage called Muckety which shows affiliations .. you seem to imply that Gannett's reporters are all strong armed into reporting as these higher ups at Gannett request they slant the news to fit their agenda.

              I suppose it would surprise you to know that all three of the folks who are listed as cofounders of Muckety also have affiliations with Gannett?

              How shall I interpret the argument you press forward now?

              • irradiatedinbako

                @aigeezer re I suppose it would surprise you to learn that all three cofounders of muckety have affiliations with Gannett news.

                Links below (in no particular order; just want to post them before my dam phone boots me again)






                In case you missed .. all three Muckety cofounders have connetions either directly listed to Gannett or the papers Detroit Free Press or USA Today listed as Gannett assests.

                • aigeezer aigeezer

                  OK. So what is your point? What follows from that?

                  • irradiatedinbako

                    Hi again AIGeezer .. This discussion grows stale already and I sincerely considered not responding to you at all on this thread.

                    I scrolled thru all the posts and at my count four times you cited or recommended as a source for discrediting or questioning this article because of Gannett connections.

                    I found it interesting that the three founders of are also connected to Gannett and thought it interesting that you had not researched the credentials of Muckety as closely as you were apparently encouraging this forum to research Gannett via Muckety.

                    The primary founder Laurie Bennett is presently writing for Forbes blog and every article her credentials are listed as Gannett Washington and Detroit Free Press (a Gannett paper) positions. That was the google search link.

                    That is all.

              • aigeezer aigeezer

                irradiated, Please don't put words like "strong-armed" into my mouth. You keep making straw-man alterations to my statements.

                Please point out errors in facts in anything I post if you find them, but don't post counter-arguments to arguments you invent that "seem to imply" what you think represent my position. I won't engage on that kind of thing.

                My position on the reporter is: the reporter is not a casual freelancer, he reported regularly for Gannett including many pieces in 2011 and 2012. His email address is at Gannett, his byline is "Gannett Washington Bureau" on a great many stories. His relationship with Gannett goes back for decades. His pieces for Gannett include recent pieces in three military journals. I provided evidence for all of this, which you have not refuted.

                My position on Gannett is: it has interlocking directorships with many key players, political and industrial. I cited a few and invited readers to explore further.

                Those were factual issues. The following is opinion, and of course you are free to disagree. My opinion is that Gannett (and all large corporate/government/media/military entities) describe their own worldview to suit their own agendas, much as individuals do. For that reason, I rarely take at face value anything reported by msm, including Gannett.

                • irradiatedinbako

                  Last one from me on this AIG ..

                  You said: On the other hand… Freelancers with extensive experience in the Gannett system don't just casually interview a senator and hand the results in to a paper. Gannett editors assign stories and/or edit them so that they fit the truth as the Gannett system sees it.

                  I said: you seem to imply that Gannett's reporters are all strong armed into reporting as these higher ups at Gannett request they slant the news to fit their agenda.

                  Hmm. .. but whatever. I apologize if I offended or mischaracterized your intent.

                  It's been an interesting exchange and I learned a lot from it. Hope to meet again. My best and peace and health to you and yours. Was born dual citizen BTW .. mom was Canadian. Gave up Canadian citizenship to vote against Nixon. Often wondered about that decision. 🙂

                  Take care.

    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      More on the drug shortages (not OT, keep reading):

      The National Organization for Healthcare Provision (EOPYY), Greece’s state-owned health insurer, hasn’t paid pharmacists for months and owes them €540 million. In turn, pharmacists are refusing to sell medications to insured patients, including cancer patients, unless they’re paid in cash—and even hospitals are reporting shortages.

      And why would something like this happen here?

      • Max1 Max1

        Greed kills…

      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        And why would something like this happen here?

        "Drugmakers led by Pfizer (PFE) Inc. agreed to run a “very significant public campaign” bankrolling political support for the 2010 health-care law, including TV ads, while the Obama administration promised to block provisions opposed by drugmakers, documents released by Republicans show.

        The internal memos and e-mails for the first time unveil the industry's plan to finance positive TV ads and supportive groups, along with providing $80 billion in discounts and taxes that were included in the law. The administration has previously denied the existence of a deal involving political support.

        The documents were released today by Republicans on the House Energy and Commerce Committee. They identify price controls under Medicare and drug importation as the key industry concerns, and show that former Pfizer Chief Executive Officer Jeffrey Kindler and his top aides were involved in drawing it up and getting support from other company executives."

        Who controls the media? Who controls access to the cancer drugs millions of people are going to need? Who's in charge of covering up this whole damn mess?

        It goes straight up.

        • aigeezer aigeezer

          TIS, I'm not disputing your item, but I'd like to add a bit. Pfizer would have covered its bases no matter which party was in power. See, for example:

          "Pfizer Inc. past relationships:
          2008 Democratic National Convention host committee – donor
          2008 Republican National Convention host committee – donor"

          They, like so many other corporations, don't miss a beat when the electorate switch from Tweedledum to Tweedledee every four or eight years.

          If you can spare a moment, use the link above and hover your mouse over people's names as you scroll down the lists. The networking is stunning. It's similar for any big company.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Quote from Edwin Lyman on 3/11/2011, "Any amount of radiation is hazardous"

    Lets go back to 3/11/2011 and watch Rachael struggle with her excessive botox use. She explains the situation very well. Then we see splashed across the screen that 5 reactors at 2 plants are in danger. Then we have Edwin making his statement and showing his concern. Telling us, everyone has known about Mark 1 reactor design flaws and concerns.

    Then we have Edwin telling us on 3/14/2011, that the situation is dire…

    Edwin, what has happened to you? How much money did it take?
    Why don't your big oil company handlers relish in nuclears demise?

    Is it because this global event will muck it all up for the oil companys too.
    Gotta have good healthy little consumers to make a profit, huh?…

    Calm down people, it's just a little (more) radiation and all those hysterical bloggers on the interwebs are wrong and bad for you…

    • Max1 Max1

      In that first clip, Maddow @ 3:24…
      … The crack, the crack. See it?
      EQ DAMAGE!
      … Was the pool leaking when this video was shot?

      • Jebus Jebus

        Yep saw it, but missed which reactor it was…
        In the first vid, #1 hadn't even exploded yet, so I think at that time, no one knows if the pool was leaking yet…
        There were many reports that it had burned some later on…

        • Max1 Max1

          " missed which reactor it was…"

          • Jebus Jebus

            Seems they knew it had "issues" by March 18, 2011…

            U.S. nuclear officials suspect Japanese plant has a dire breach

            A leak in a spent fuel pool at the Fukushima nuclear plant would be an unprecedented problem with no clear remedy, experts say.
            March 18, 2011|By Ralph Vartabedian, Barbara Demick and Laura King, Los Angeles Times

            Reporting from Los Angeles, Kesennuma and Tokyo — U.S. government nuclear experts believe a spent fuel pool at Japan's crippled Fukushima reactor complex has a breach in the wall or floor, a situation that creates a major obstacle to refilling the pool with cooling water and keeping dangerous levels of radiation from escaping.

            That assessment by U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission officials is based on the sequence of events since the earthquake and information provided by key American contractors who were in the plant at the time, said government officials familiar with the evaluation. It was compelling evidence, they said, that the wall of the No. 4 reactor pool has a significant hole or crack….


            • Jebus Jebus

              A bit more in case the scope of this is not apparent to some…

              President Obama has assured Americans that the crisis did not pose a risk to U.S. territory.

              The crisis was roiling financial markets worldwide. Of particular concern in Japan was the yen hitting record highs against the dollar as currency traders bet that Japanese companies and investors will sell foreign assets to pay for rebuilding.

              Estimates of quake losses run to $200 billion, and a flow of money back into the country would boost demand for the yen, putting even more upward pressure on the currency, in turn making Japan's exports more expensive for foreign buyers.

              In a highly unusual move, finance ministers of the world's wealthiest economies agreed to act together to stop the yen from rising, hoping to avert more damage to the Japanese economy.

    • Jebus Jebus

      Muckity "Union of Concerned Scientists" and explore big oil's tentacles.

      I say it again, that we are smack dab in the middle of corporate war games.

      In this field we have the Big Oil Team, the Gushers, still showing some injuries from that Gulf attack. With enough ink covering the scars and money covering the palms, they should be fine.

      And in this field we have the Skyshiners, fresh from the battle of Fukuskima. They have taken a tremondous hit from the Gushers, but their PR division is fighting a galliant battle. They will regroup to strike back another day.

      Whats this? A new element has entered the battle. There are millions of them! Armed with only critical thinking skills, data, and their voices, they seem positioned to increase their ranks and bring this war home.
      You can see the many divisional flags of the troops. There's Fairewinds, ENENews, EX-SKF, fukushima diaries, and hundreds more.
      Look one of them is holding up a sign indicating who they all are.


      • Max1 Max1


        "Big Oil Team, the Gushers, still showing some injuries from that Gulf attack…"

        Sorry, that's the Big Oil League, The Gushers is but one of the teams. You forgot the Leakers, the Spillers, the Dripers, the Tankers…

        Other competitive leagues include the Clean Coal League, the Safe Nuclear League, the Natural Gas Frackers League of America, and of course the Alternative Energy League. Of course the best team is always determined by how well they're subsidized…

        • Jebus Jebus

          by greasin the gears of power….

          • Max1 Max1

            It's worse than that…

            I'm over on HuffPost on the Scahill thrashing of the Obama murder lists. It's part of this web of Energy lust/Control/war being waged upon mankind. It's a rich and deep history only punctuated by these two, seemingly different yet similar events. Both tied with a history of the MIC. So banal it has an apathetic grip on everyone's attention…

      • aigeezer aigeezer

        Jebus, a muckety search yields:

        "Union of Concerned Scientists

        People related to Union of Concerned Scientists:
        Kevin Knobloch – president
        Adele S. Simmons – director
        Other current Union of Concerned Scientists relationships:
        Dow Lohnes Government Strategies LLC – lobby firm
        Union of Concerned Scientists past relationships:
        Downey McGrath Group – lobby firm
        Charles Monfort – Washington director & chief lobbyist"

        No obvious links to big oil or big anything for that matter, at first glance.

        However, going a bit deeper and looking at one of the lobbying firms, yields:

        "Other current Dow Lohnes Government Strategies LLC relationships:
        AmerisourceBergen Corporation – lobby firm
        Atlanta Beltline, Inc. – lobby firm
        Calpine Corporation – lobby firm
        Career Education Corporation – lobby firm
        Chevron USA, Inc. – lobby firm
        Cox Enterprises – lobby firm
        DeVry Inc. – lobby firm
        Dow Lohnes – affiliated company
        j2 Global Communications, Inc. – lobby firm
        National Grid USA – lobby firm
        Norfolk Southern Corporation – lobby firm Inc. – lobby firm
        Qualcomm Inc. – lobby firm
        Semiconductor Industry Association – lobby firm
        Tenaska, Inc. – lobby firm
        Touro College – lobby firm
        Union of Concerned Scientists – lobby firm"

        Chevron… was that your point? If so, please elaborate. I'm poking around in the dark on this one – can't interpret it.

    • Max1 Max1

      In that second clip, AP News…
      … Everything dire he worried of, has happened.

      I now find myself questioning his complacency…

    • aigeezer aigeezer

      Jebus, in looking at your first vid (thanks), I was struck by how much detailed footage American media had of the plant, from all sorts of angles, as the crisis unfolded – compared to the almost-total absence of current images now that everything is "safe" and "in cold shutdown".

      • Jebus Jebus

        They still have all the footage, just too bad it will take a wikileaks to bring it up from the basement…
        And that is being woked on as we type…

        • aigeezer aigeezer

          You're on a roll, Jebus. Good stuff today.

          Here's a weird one, not big oil, but big nuke (Exelon).

          Exelon (biggest nuke energy provider in the US) recently got into the solar power biz through First Solar, with generous government subsidy funding. That's old news – a month or two.

          New news is that First Solar is in big trouble. Speculation is that the Republicans will pounce and claim government waste etc.

          Now I'll add my spin – my very own conspiracy theory, with nothing but speculation to support it. Here goes… if you were Exelon and you held leverage over a solar energy company, wouldn't you help it blow up so you could claim the technology wasn't viable? You might get to pocket the subsidy money, dump on the Dems, knock out potential competition, and ramp up your stranglehold on nuke power, all while wringing your hands and saying how hard you tried to make it work.

          Maybe evidence for or against this speculation will come out over time. There are certainly plenty of hardball games going on. CNN feeds me "big oil" "big coal" and "big natural gas" commercials every single day, telling me to "vote" for them – and I live in another country. I trust none of them.

          • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

            Agree with your theory aigeezer

            I will also add that in the Chinese made panels *flooded the market. This was used as the reason:

            "Solar energy firms, in fact, say a recent Commerce Department trade ruling will eliminate thousands of the green jobs that President Barack Obama likes to talk about.

            The department made a preliminary decision last month to impose a 31 percent tariff on solar panels imported from China. The punitive levy was sought by SolarWorld, a German company that makes solar panels in the U.S. and six other companies.

            “It's a complex issue,” Glueck says. “The biggest risk is if it drives the cost up too high, everybody across the board is not selling as much and not installing as much.”

            So green jobs are eliminated & the cost of solar panels go up just as they were on par with natural gas.


          • Jebus Jebus

            Another sign, hell you could put that wordpress sillouette on either candidate and you would not be able to tell the difference.

            Remember when Soylindra, Obamas pet went under?

            Well, here's Romney…

            Romney Claimed Now-Bankrupt Solar Company Would Become A Major Economic Springboard’ In 2003 Speech


            Big Corp Whatever has a vested interest in seeing that Individual Solar Power never see's the light of day…
            Even while they are investing in it.

            • aigeezer aigeezer

              Yes, Jebus. Absolutely. In abstract gaming terms those things are perfectly reasonable. Move and countermove. Feint and thrust and parry. It's all classic stuff and in fiction or sports or warfare we might applaud it. In everyday life its effects are ghastly and alarmingly cumulative.

              Michael Wolff modified an old poker players' saying:

              "If you don’t know who the fool is in a room full of bankers and deal makers and media bigs, it’s you."


              Unfortunately, seeing through the game is not the same as excelling at it, and most of us would rather not be involved in the game in any capacity – but here we all are – and Fukushima burns on – and the next Fukushima bides its time, for now.

  • wishin' & a hopin' Wyden's colleagues soon feel the same

    radiation info to share with them & loved ones,24.0.html

    • WindorSolarPlease

      wishin' & a hopin' with you chemfood

    • Wishing and hoping has worked so well in the past. Monitoring stations closed. Don't worry radiation is safe. Meanwhile.. Feb 2012, first nuke plants ok'd in 30 years.

        • WindorSolarPlease

          So far Nothing has worked EdWardMD..Most of us don't like that there has not been full disclosure.
          I do believe they are monitoring. However, we are not informed.

          • Full disclosure? The only thing that's been disclosed is 'scam disclosure'. Satellites are monitoring everything. Ions, neutrons, shock waves, temps in buildings/ground, etc, et al. Wishing, hoping, gobbling up BS from murderous scumbags and moaning to them for help hasn't worked and never will. The only thing that has ever worked against home grown tyranny has been strikes to shut Nazi murderous governments down.

        • WindorSolarPlease

          EdWardMD your link says Government and industry are working closely on expedited approval for construction and new plant designs.

          Isn't that special, government and corporation working closely together..Doesn't that make you feel warm and fuzzy?

          If they want to build more monster nuclear power plants, that is exactly what they will do.
          I have seen from the beginning, people not wanting this.

          Thanks for the link.


          • Thanks for the thanks WSP. I try never to write BS, and if it's handy, I'll pull a link or two. Yeah, but people are starting to see governments and 'corpses' for what they are. BTW, Ed works for me.

  • Jebus Jebus

    February 1, 2012
    And here is the Union of Concerned? Scientist's latest testimony to congress on, …well…their "unbiased" support of nuclear power…given that we can make it safe, wink wink.

    • WindorSolarPlease

      Oh yes Jebus we all know it's safe..We can tell by the disasters, waste it leaves, and by the spewing.

      What are these Scientist's Concerned over? It's definitely not the Environment that we all need to live, or the Public Health.

      It's time to move forward, away from Nuclear Power, to newer safer energy.

      Thank You Jebus

    • Excellent find Jebus

      It illustrates the limited hangout principle perfectly.

    • Bobby1

      The hangout in that document is so limited, that you can't distinguish it from the NEI, NRC, or any pro-nuke outfit.

  • Anthony Anthony

    Fukushima still feeds lawmakers' concerns for West Coast
    2:25 PM, Jun 3, 2012 | comments

    **** The alarms come from two of the Senate's most prominent Democrats — Barbara Boxer of California and Ron Wyden of Oregon — as well as new studies documenting how radioactivity migrated across the Pacific from the March 11, 2011 disaster to lodge in marine and plant life.

    Wyden, a senior member of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, still shakes his head in disbelief with what he saw during an April visit to the Fukushima site.****

    ****Even 10 times the March 2011 radiation release, Lyman said, would only endanger Japan — and possibly Alaska and U.S. territories.

    For now, he said, scare stories alleging cover-ups of Fukushima's effect on the United States should be disregarded.

    About "95 percent of that is factually inaccurate and wrong," Lyman said On a related matter, Boxer, chairman of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, has been raising questions since last year about how well U.S. nuclear plants would handle a major earthquake or other disaster.****

  • Jebus Jebus

    And we call it MOX… MOX MORTIFICATION
    It is in our backyard and it will soon be in our reactors…

    The Trouble with MOX
    Why is the U.S. intent on imitating one of Fukushima’s scariest flaws?
    Mariah Blake April 7, 2011

    Today, several Fukushima reactors are teetering near meltdown—a nerve-wracking prospect made all the more scary by the presence of MOX in one of them. This raises an unsettling question about U.S. policy: Why, after rejecting MOX for decades, is the U.S. government currently in the midst of a massive, $10 billion project to supply this dangerous fuel to nuclear power plants around the country?

    M.O.X. Millions of X's

    MOX is why #3 explosion was the event.

    MOX is why the MSM is silent.

    MOX is why, "It's their disaster.

    MOX is why the monitoring stations were shut off, everywhere!

    MOX is why it is too late for the Japanese.

    MOX is why we are being conditioned.

    MOX is even more of why we must give up Nukes or Die

    Speak up people, your future depends on it.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne


      • What-About-The-Kids

        I second that, Anne. Jebus, you are on a roll in this thread! Awesome stuff!

        Hmm, now about that MOX in the triple-skyhigh-explosion in Reactor/Spent Fuel pool #3. Sounds like Edwin Lyman completely (and conveniently) missed the memo on that one…

        Ah, but this thread is surely just part of that "95%" full-of-irrational-fear scare stories he mentioned. Uh, Mr. Lyman, could you please clarify this a bit, like where you pulled the 95% figure out of (i,e, thin air?) Seeing as you're a professional scientist and all, surely you have some concrete studies and factoids to back up your assertion?

        Oh, and while you're at it, Mr. Lyman, could you be more specific on exactly where we can find the 5% of the online "scare stories" which are accurate in their claims of a cover up of the harmful effects in the U.S. of Fukushima radiation?

        Thank you.

        • aigeezer aigeezer

          Good eye, WATK. I'd like to think the 5% that are accurate are to be found at Enenews. Let's make it so if we can.

          • What-About-The-Kids

            Thanks, Aigeezer. Yes, any efforts to make reporting here accurate and truthful is always welcomed. Enenews does a great job of providing a pretty comprehensive listing of articles, blog pieces, videologs, etc. covering information about Fukushima.

            Due to the nature of the uncharted territory we find ourselves in, at this point, it is a tall order to be able to insure all postings here contain 100% accurate, scientifically-verifiable information. But it is an honorable goal certainly worthy of striving towards.

            Having access to these linked articles is what is most important; given their unavailability, for the most part, in the MSM, it is then up to us to try and figure out fact and truth from inaccuracies. Time will tell.

            In the meantime, let's keep sharing what we find, in the believe and faith that the TRUTH will out eventually..and hopefully, sooner than later, for all of our sakes'.

        • arclight arclight

          hi watk

          i believe the 5 percent figure might have been mentioned at one of the japanese press clubs that blame others..

          this one i believe showed the chart of fukushima related info surging up on internet based news articles then plummeting after the euractive warning about milk etc in europe on april the 12 (it was not published by any media outlet and all fukushima related news stopped).. the 5 percent was the left overs ie enenews, exskf etc and some articles from RT, aljazeera etc

          so maybe the five percent is a figure based on the data that would have been provided to the japanese by ogilvy and maher as they "eased" the situation using thier web based companies etc .. explains the media using it too?

          well spotted!

          • What-About-The-Kids

            Yes, Arc, we may never know with 100% accuracy exactly which articles are among the 5% Lyman referenced, due to the big PR budgets of the nuke industry.

            I have been trying to figure out Lyman's purpose in Life from the very get go. He tries to maintain "nuclear agnosticism" in his work at the UCS, and I originally thought perhaps his philosophy might be that this would be the best stance to take if a true anti-nuke person and an organization wanted to infiltrate and eventually bring down the cause of nukers…(And what I had originally hoped was Obama's tactic for selecting Jazco, while taking campaign contributions from nuke companies…i.e.: "keep your friends close and your enemies closer.")

            But with Lyman's recent downplaying of the true horrors of Fuku unleashed upon Japan and the world, I am wondering if my initial assessment was indeed all that accurate…? Perhaps it is exactly the OTHER way around?

            Hard to make heads or tails in a world with so much increasingly noisy Newspeak…Sheesh!

  • bleep_hits_blades

    There are more at the link, by other famous inventors of the near miss cliche, but Geo Bush was particularly prolific in that regard. Musta been all that stuff he was smokin' – he has access to 'da bes' …

    Interesting historical trivia:

    Only in the late 20th Century did a low IQ become an absitively necessary perquisite for a presidential candidate to stand more than a snowball's chance in Hell of secceeding to attain that Oval Orifice….

    "George W. Bush is particularly famous for his malapropisms, and not without good reason. It is thus not surprising to learn that malapropisms (and other similar verbal slips) are often known by the name Bushisms in the USA. Here's a selection of George W. Bushisms:"

    "Oftentimes, we live in a processed world, you know, people focus on the process and not results."
    "The law I sign today directs new funds… to the task of collecting vital intelligence… on weapons of mass production."
    "It will take time to restore chaos and order."
    "They have miscalculated me as a leader."
    "Natural gas is hemispheric… because it is a product that we can find in our neighborhoods."
    "I am mindful not only of preserving executive powers for myself, but for predecessors as well."
    "We need an energy bill that encourages consumption."
    "We are making steadfast progress."

  • Jebus Jebus

    And here's Concerned Edward speaking to Congress on April 6, 2011

    "At least one of the spent fuel pools at the Fukushima plant is believed to have lost coolant
    and caught fire, causing fuel damage, a hydrogen explosion and the release of long-lived
    radioactive particles."


    "Because the industry’s post-9/11 plans are treated as “security-related information,”
    members of the public cannot access them and are not able to judge for themselves
    whether the plans are credible. For instance, the public does not know if these plans
    address serious issues in post-accident response that have been revealed at Fukushima,
    from the ability to manage and contain the large volumes of highly contaminated water
    generated by manual injection of coolant to the ability to ensure an adequate supply of
    personal dosimeters for all workers required for emergency response actions."

    Speak Up People

  • Jebus Jebus

    Redeeming? From Thursday, 01/21/10 7:50am

    Concerned Scientist Edwin Lyman Explains Tritium


  • dharmasyd dharmasyd

    Edgey Irritation Alert: It is apparent many of us are on edge, feeling the stress. Just want to offer a reminder of what Tumgrewer…(I wish I could remember his screen name). but his advice is the important part.
    Please be kind to each other; we are all in this predicament together. (not a quote.) Thank you.

  • Bubbha

    The more I read te more I have a feeling. Parhaps no addressing of fuku is because it is beyond addressable. In the meantime, there seems to a great push to find earth like planets and create a new cancer treatment. Perhaps those are the most viable solutions.

  • Bubbha

    If that's the case, the rich shall inherent the galaxy.

  • Anthony Anthony

    What happened to "no nukes" Japan?

    As Japan debates the possible restart of two nuclear reactors, Fukushima is still cause for concern.
    Justin McCurryJune 4, 2012 06:15

    ***Tepco and the government moved to reassure the public after a US senator warned of massive radiation leaks in the event of a collapse or major damage to the fuel pool.

    Ron Wyden, a Democratic senator from Oregon who recently toured Fukushima Daiichi, said authorities in Japan needed to move more quickly to put the fuel rods out of harm's way.

    "The precarious status of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear units and the risk presented by the enormous inventory of radioactive materials and spent fuel in the event of further earthquake threats should be of concern to all and a focus of greater international support and assistance," Wyden said in a letter to Japan's ambassador to the US, Ichiro Fujisaki.

    The government acknowledged international concerns, but said the senator's warnings were misplaced.

    "We have no evidence to support that the No. 4 reactor building is neither as sound or more dangerous structurally compared to the other buildings [on the Fukushima Daiichi site]," Ikko Nakatsuka, Japan's senior vice minister for reconstruction, told reporters.****

    • What-About-The-Kids

      "We have no evidence to support that the No. 4 reactor building is neither as sound or more dangerous structurally compared to the other buildings [on the Fukushima Daiichi site],"…

      In other words, they're all dangerous and deadly! "More" or "less" deadly is a relative statement…After all, one dead person cannot be "more dead" than another dead person…


  • glowfus

    "i'm mortified" which cartoon character best describes this; 1) sylvester the cat 2) yosemite sam 3) elmer fudd.