Nuclear Expert: Fukushima is a pretty close approximation of ‘The China Syndrome’; Melted fuel cores burned through containment vessels and material is below reactor structures mixing with groundwater — Essentially it’s a machine that’s washing radioactivity into the sea (AUDIO)

Published: November 4th, 2014 at 1:02 pm ET
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WMNF, Lessons from the Fukushima Nuclear Disaster, Mar 10, 2014 (emphasis added):

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Published: November 4th, 2014 at 1:02 pm ET
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224 comments to Nuclear Expert: Fukushima is a pretty close approximation of ‘The China Syndrome’; Melted fuel cores burned through containment vessels and material is below reactor structures mixing with groundwater — Essentially it’s a machine that’s washing radioactivity into the sea (AUDIO)

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Everything is under strict control..

  • MGLLC

    The China Syndrome was a movie, and it had a happy ending. This is having anything but….and it is getting far worse. Comparing Fukushima to a fictional story isn't the best way to get this story out. The Fact the republican and democrat conventions carefully screened the food served at the conventions is a huge story…..it proves the story is far worse.

    The worst part is that it continues unabated, and there is no effort being made to stop it. As one who has lived in CA all my life, eating at Fisherman's Wharf since I was a small child, growing up on fresh fish from the ocean……I find this a crime against humanity, yet nothing is said or done.

    Barnacles line our beaches instead of beautiful sea shells. Clam digging is a passtime that no longer exists. The salmon are yellow, so they dye the fish red to sell. Nothing is said or done.

    I am so angry. I hope that volcano explodes and buries Japan and Fukushima with it.

    • Sickputer

      "The China Syndrome was a movie, and it had a happy ending."

      SP: Not for the whistleblower Jack Lemon. 🙂

      It is quite an amazing movie both for timing (12 days later Three Mile Island melted down) and the accurate portrayal of the Nucleoape goon culture.

      RIP Jack Lemon… You should have been awarded the Academy Award.

  • Bill Duff

    ‘Tepco postponed removing molten fuel from Reactor 1 until 2025’, November 2, 2014, “Fukushima-Diary

    On 10/30/2014, Tepco announced they postponed removing molten fuel from Reactor 1 until 2025, when is 5 years later than planned. … After all, fuel removal from Spent Fuel Pool 1 is going to be postponed by 2 years, molten fuel removal is going to be postponed by 5 years. However, neither of the state nor the location of molten fuel is verified. They rescheduled the plan but it is still baseless. Tepco states the entire decommissioning will be still ending in 30 ~ 40 years, but this is also baseless. The actual decommissioning may take over a century.

    Tepco roadmap/images/d141030_10-j #page=10

  • Bill Duff

    U.S. SAILORS WIN KEY COURT DECISION TO GO FORWARD WITH CLASS ACTION AGAINST JAPAN’S NUCLEAR POWER COMPANY, Case 3:12-cv-03032-JLS-JLB Document 69 Filed 10/28/14

    U.S. Sailors won key court decision to go forward with class action against Tepco, GE, Toshiba and Hitachi etc., November 1, 2014, The federal judge, Janis L. Sammartino published the decision to let U.S Navy Sailors go forward with the United States District Court in San Diego against Tepco.

    From Fukushima-Diary

  • Bill Duff

    USA Sailors from Reagan Carrier Group win preliminary hearing, to sue TEPCO.

    • VoxDei VoxDei

      Actually I am in agreement. People need to know that they can seek whatever damages they feel they are entitled but they must be vigilant not to put their trust in lawyers that want to go after ideology. The onus though will be on proving a large acute dose. For a ship with radiation detectors on board, it will be very hard not to go with radiation readings that are part of the record.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        Onus will be on proving a large acute dose? How about a small acute dose…or a large non acute…no…I got it, a cute non acute non harmful dose….the only kind admitted to by "your side"

        Our sacrificing men and women have radiation symptoms en masse and psychopaths like VoxDei say they can seek damages if they can prove a large dose? Dose of what exactly, and proven by whom?

        Fukushima has enough curies to make 3,360,000 square miles uninhabitable…a dead zone surrounded by an even higher sick zone. The Japanese government even admitted to some 13% of their country is contaminated and that 80% of the deadly fallout went to sea.

        Unit three had maybe 300 kg of Pu239 … 100 grams plutonium can overdose a billion civilians. What are you asking them to prove again? Our military boys may be sick but your kind are sicker and here is why: for every man on that ship 100,000 more sentient beings, be they whale or human suffered assaults to the very foundation of their beings, yet you consider it of zero importance. In a word,…you sir/thing are a psychopath.

        Some say a lethal dose of inhaled Plutonium is 50 millionths of a gram. Others say 20 milligrams of plutonium dust…other sources say one ten-thousandth of a gram …0.1 milligram inhaled can cause cancer. Anyway you look at, your precious poison that you so fervently guard is deadly to every animal or plant It falls on.

        But you and your kind could care less. PSYCHO!

  • Bill Duff

    TEPCO blows off corium removal project.

  • Bill Duff

    Yea,

    Sailors and Marines participating in Operation Tomodachi have been granted permission to sue TEPCO.

    Hurrah

  • Bungalow Phil Bungalow Phil

    FNPP decommissioning planning and execution could take 30-40 yrs?

    http://www.irid.or.jp/_pdf/140914.pdf.

    Lot of information here, wise to save as reference material. Duplication is prohibited however.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Not even close, since they have no way to stop what is happening ever..just like Chernobyl's 30 to 40 years?

    Can't fix what they have broken and that is/would be the same with the SUN.

    Just try putting that forever burning golden bright light out, shining way up in the sky each day .. if you can. 🙂

    Not going to happen. 🙁

  • Bill Duff

    The Nuclear Village does not CHOOSE to contain Fukushima Corium. They could. Hell, I could contain it. But they will NOT.

  • Bill Duff

    Fukushima Corium CAN be contained and the waste water CAN be safely stored.

  • Bill Duff

    The civilian nuclear power industry is a total economic failure.

  • VoxDei VoxDei

    Corium has a very high density compared to concrete, dirt, steel, and water. It is not going anywhere. Those in charge are being prudent. They first need to let the corium decay down to where the radiation is manageable to send in robots. Probably another year and a half and the corium would be as radioactive as spent fuel going into dry cask (akin to 5 years after removal from the spent fuel pool).

  • Bill Duff

    Some of the Fukushima corium is still glowing red hot.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "Making my kids wear a glass badge*, a useless almighty protector,

    I send them onto a battle field.

    I see decontamination trucks in town

    There are unknown men in the local convenience store.

    I smell dusty soil from them.

    Plastic storage bags are piling up here and there,

    and I recall there is a school meal center just near by."

    Fukushima mother's tweet
    Nov 2 2014

    http://www.opednews.com/articles/Fukushima-mother-s-tweet-by-carol-wolman-MD-Denial_Fukushima_Heart_Radiation-141102-693.html

    How can we save a people from their own government?

  • Bill Duff

    Areva's BBB- rating has been hovering barely above junk status since December 2011, when it was downgraded two notches after Areva booked a 2.4 billion-euro charge for project delays and cancelled orders in the wake of Japan's Fukushima nuclear disaster.

  • Bill Duff

    Half of uranium mines operate at a loss despite closures and cancellations

  • Bill Duff

    Germany closed their oldest reactors and will close the rest.

  • Bill Duff

    Siemens plans to pull out of the nuclear energy business, CEO Peter Löscher told SPIEGEL. After the Fukushima nuclear disaster "the chapter is closed," he said. "We will no longer be involved in managing the building or financing of nuclear plants." He said the company was responding to "German society and politics' clear position on ending nuclear energy." The nuclear exit would mean that the company would shelve a long-planned joint venture with Russian nuclear firm Rosatom.

    SPIEGEL ONLINE, September 19, 2011 – 01:18 PM

  • Bill Duff

    On January 27, 2009, Siemens announced its decision to pull out of AREVA NP, in which it held a 34% share. In its ruling announced today, the court of arbitration confirmed that Siemens was at fault and ordered it to pay AREVA 648 million euros in penalties. This corresponds to the full amount provided for in the event of violation of the shareholders’ agreement signed by AREVA and Siemens in 2001, i.e. 40% of Siemens’ share in AREVA NP. On March 18, 2011 an independent expert mandated jointly by the parties had estimated this share at 1.62 billion euros. Press release, AREVA GROUP, May 19, 2011,

  • Bill Duff

    We will no longer be involved in managing the building or financing of nuclear plants Siemens CEO Peter Löscher told SPIEGEL.

  • Bill Duff

    Siemens responded to German society and politics clear position on ending nuclear energy.

  • Bill Duff

    Death of the Nuclear Renaissance SMELLS like victory

  • Bill Duff

    The Obama EPA illegally bankrupted coal burning electrical generators.

  • Bill Duff

    Nuclear power costs more than fossil fuel generation.

  • Bill Duff

    August continued the trend of rising revenue per kilowatthour averages, up for the 21st month in a row compared to the same month one year prior. On an individual state level, 40 states had increases compared to last August, with Rhode Island recording the largest increase, up nearly 20%. Alaska and Illinois had the second and third largest year-over-year increases, respectively, with both states up over 12%. EIA Electricity Monthly Update, With Data for August 2014, Release Date: Oct. 24, 2014, Next Release Date: Nov. 24, 2014,

  • Bill Duff

    From 2008-2013 electricity prices rose an average of 20.7 percent in the top 10 wind power states, which is seven-fold higher than the national electricity price increase of merely 2.8 percent. ‘Electricity Prices Soaring In Top Wind Power States’, Forbes Energy & Environment, James Taylor, 10/17/2014 @ 8:12AM

  • Bill Duff

    Nuclear and Wind and Solar Voltaic are expensive sources of electrical Power

  • Bill Duff

    Hydro Coal Natural Gas LPG and Oil are inexpensive sources of electrical power

  • I searched for VOX DEI in Anaheim California and got this….hilarious!
    ——————————
    In today's world thieves and sociopaths can usually wander around to new locations to find new people to prey on who don't know them, and don't have their guard up. How do people with sociopathic tendencies get by in communal groups like tribes or small villages where everyone knows about you?
    =======================================
    http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=498789

  • Bill Duff

    The MOX fueled FDU-3 reactor explosion, produced: orange flame, supersonic detonation, black smoke, hyperthermic fuel vaporization and scattering as well as induced Gamma (Γ) radiation in structural metals. These signs and symptoms characterize neither hydrogen nor steam explosions. The Japan FDU-3 March 14, 2011 detonation was therefore a prompt criticality, also known as an atomic explosion or nuclear blast.

    • Bill yep….the activation of those nearby towers, and the 5 lethal doses in FOIA emails clearly support the prompt critical nuclear explosion.

    • Sickputer

      Re: Bill Duff and his one paragraph summation of the nuclear explosion at Unit 3 is the best explanation ever written! 🙂 +311

      I don't guess Hot Rod will send you a Christmas card. 😉

      Keep up the truthful information flow…people are dying and babies aborted in Japan.

      Where are the medical and health statistics for Japan since 2011?

      Answer: in a little locked Pandora's box at the PM's office. Open it up to read the real truth about the nuclear fallout in Japan. No hope inside for many…

  • Bill Duff

    All atomic blasts are violations of the various nuclear nonproliferation treaties.

  • Bill Duff

    Atomic blasts violate nuclear nonproliferation treaties.

  • Bill Duff

    Nuclear nonproliferation treaties call for recycled MOX fuel in civilian reactors.

  • Bill Duff

    MOX is more difficult to control than UOX as evidenced by the FDU-3 Nuclear detonation.

  • Bill Duff

    Nuclear nonproliferation treaties contributed the FDU-3 atomic explosion.

  • Bill Duff

    The FDU-3 atomic blast is an embarrassing inconsistency in the Nuclear Nonproliferation treaties.

  • Bill Duff

    The MOX fueled FDU-3 reactor explosion, produced: orange flame, implosion, supersonic detonation, black smoke, hyperthermic fuel vaporization and scattering as well as induced Gamma (Γ) radiation in structural metals. These signs and symptoms characterize neither hydrogen nor steam explosions. The Japan FDU-3 March 14, 2011 detonation was therefore a prompt criticality, also known as an atomic explosion or nuclear blast. That telltale atomic mushroom cloud is a bonus point.

  • Bill Duff

    The primary obstacle to a nuclear free AC electrical marketplace are the (steam) Turbine Generator manufacturer business models. These market segments have long comprised the lion’s share of revenues and profits for General Electric, Siemens AG, and the other players. Overall AC electrical grid efficiency, cost and reliability is quite unfavorable, relative to the alternatives. The market stakeholders will do ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING to prevent loss of this lucrative marketplace.

  • Bill Duff

    The Market for Steam Turbines for Combined-Cycle Installation
    http://www.forecastinternational.com/samples/F643_CompleteSample.pdf

    World demand to rise 6.5% annually through 2016 The world market for turbines and related products (turbine-based engines, generators, and generator sets) is forecast to rise 6.5 percent annually to $165 billion in 2016. http://www.academia.edu/7842509/Turbines_Industry_by_Application_Electric_Power_Generation_Aircraft_Engines_Marine_-_Global_Forecasts_to_2016-2021

  • Bill Duff

    Radioactive contamination cleanup costs may exceed $200 million per square kilometer, in 1991 dollars.

    Of course these figures assume that no clean-up of the area exposed to 238pu would occur. It is possible to reduce exposure risk without great effort. Those who might be exposed to the passing of the initial 238Pu plume could be sheltered until it passed; reducing potential exposure by 50% or more. Although most of the potential health impact would from from inhalation and not ingestion. The harvesting of contaminated crops and fish and the consumption of drinking water could be banned until the situation was fully assessed. Contaminated ground areas could be cleaned up; however with the … cleanup costs so high (estimated at $200 million per square kilometer).

    POTENTIAL HEALTH RISKS FROM POSTULATED ACCIDENTS INVOLVING THE Pu-238 RTG ON THE ULYSSES SOLAR EXPLORATION MISSION, http://fas.org/nuke/space/pu-ulysses.pdf

    Thousands of square miles of Japan and the NW Pacific fishery were contaminated by Fukushima Pu-238, (AKA ‘Rocket Fuel’, ‘Space Battery’) along with the myriads of other radioisotopes, from the FDU-3 Atomic Explosion and the other two ‘simple meltdowns’. The cleanup costs for the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Disaster would thus approach infinity (–> ∞).

  • Bill Duff

    Sandia training film shows how to arm a SADM, courtesy FOIA

    http://vimeo.com/84419935

  • Fukushima Coriums Melted Through The Concrete Base Mat Under Multiple Nuclear Reactors In 18 Hours, According To NRC Study
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2014/06/corium-melts-through-concrete-base-mat.html

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