Nun sentenced to years in prison for nuclear site sabotage — Sister Rice pleads with judge to give her life behind bars, “Greatest honor you could give me” — Yale scholar mentions her along with Gandhi, MLK — TV: Highly unusual hearing, judge repeatedly says how much sway they have to affect change

Published: February 19th, 2014 at 9:37 am ET


Reuters, Feb. 18, 2014: A U.S. judge sentenced an 84-year-old nun, Sister Megan Rice, on Tuesday to 35 months in prison for breaking into a Tennessee defense facility where enriched uranium for nuclear bombs is stored.

AP, Feb. 18, 2014: Rice asked the judge to sentence her to life in prison […] “Please have no leniency with me,” she said. “To remain in prison for the rest of my life would be the greatest gift you could give me.”’ […] God was using them to raise awareness about nuclear weapons and they viewed their break-in as a miracle. […] Rice testified at trial that she was surprised the group made it all the way to the interior of the secured zone without being challenged and that plant operations were suspended. “That stunned me,” she said. “I can’t believe they shut down the whole place.” […] U.S. District Judge Amul Thapar said he was concerned they showed no remorse and he wanted the punishment to be a deterrent for other activists.

CNN, Feb. 19, 2014: […] the three cut through a chain-link fence surrounding the Y-12 National Security Complex […] walked nearly a mile, cutting through three more fences and breaching what was supposed to be the most tightly secured uranium processing and storage facility in the country. It was not until hours later that a guard finally confronted the activists […] In response to the incident, Congress has held a series of hearings […]

Guardian, Feb. 19, 2014: Mary Evelyn Tucker, director of the Forum on Religion and Ecology at Yale […] compared the nun’s use of non-violent protest to the “lineage of transformation” employed by Mahatma Gandhi, Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King.

WBIR, Feb. 18, 2014: “Please have no leniency on me. To remain in prison for the rest of my life would be the greatest honor you could give me.” […] I hope it conveys how unusual this sentencing hearing was this afternoon […] there was an overflow courtroom for people that have come from across the country […] As much as he respected — that was actually a quote, he used the word ‘respected’ — their beliefs, he did not think the ends justified the means, so you can’t go breaking into a federal facility because you believe you’re protecting the future of the planet. […] He repetitively said over and over again how much voice he believes these people have and how much sway they can have toward affecting change.

Watch the WBIR broadcast here

Published: February 19th, 2014 at 9:37 am ET


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  • dosdos dosdos

    At 84 years old, a life sentence would probably not be that long.

    The problem exists in so many nuclear facilities, security is a joke. It's an expense the owners want to cut as much as they manage.

    • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

      It would be if it were YOUR mom.

      • ocifferdave

        Monastics habitually eat less than their 'worldly' counterparts. Studies show that animals that eat 20% less calories live 20% longer. Less wear and tear on the body. She may live to 100 easily.

        • @ ocifferdave
          February 19, 2014 at 10:03 am
          The nuclear energy programmes are creating progressive deterioration of the gene pool and omnicide. Who is the saboteur?

    • weeman

      If you ask me it is a life sentence, I hope not her work is not done, we may have found our martyr.
      One incredible human being, I tell you there are still decent people in this world, far a few between, we need more with that kind of conviction.
      Descend on that jail and rally behind sister Rice, set our people free.
      It must have been very imbarrasing for the security at facility, made a lot of people look inept and foolish.

    • If a nun can do it openly, surely We can inform the People anonymously?!!? Practical actions for folks tired of no one knows

        • All who don't act when they can are culpable.

          • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

            @chemfood: "All who don't act when they can are culpable."

            I'm no apologist for the so called "elites" being a shadow government in the US: they've created an unsustainable economic system that is headed for ruin in the not too distant future, and their only response is to throw a temper tantrum of ridiculous power abuses that de-legitimizing every social institution "they" control.

            But "all" who don't act are "culpable"? Seriously?

            There are 20 million American working in federal, state or local government, 2 million of them are swinging dicks with guns. These folks have sworn oaths to support and defend the constitution from domestic enemies. Yet most are content to suck down six figure paychecks while the pretend to shake their fists at the "elite" shadow government, to say nothing of their duty and oath to protect the government they work for from that same treasonous shadow government of "elites."

            Look, these so-called elites didn't swear an oath to us to support the constitution that they are flagrantly disregarding. They are unabashedly in it for themselves.

            Who swore an oath? The 20 million americans in federal and state legislative, executive and judicial govenment jobs, including intelligence jobs, law enforcement jobs and military jobs.

            Those folks need to stop swilling at the trough, stop blaming "the people" for not caring. They took an oath, and they took the money.

            Why should we put their pensions before social…

            • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

              Why should we put their pensions before social security otherwise?

              And, we both know where social security is headed. . .

              • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

                There appear to be those in government who rationalize their inaction by believing (or just pitching to their underlings) that they are waiting for the unsustainable economic system to finally tank, and then rightfully blame its architects.

                Beyond being a cop-out excuse for falling down on a constitutional oath, the problem with this "plan" is that those left in control are currently de-legitimizing all our social institutions in their panic over the looming financial singularity. . . even as they use QE and ZIRP loans to buy up everything under the sun.

                So, if they're saving these well-deserved, whipping-boys to blame for the "crash" whenever it occurs, by then those 0.001% "elites" will have simultaneously destroyed the fabric of our society while owning everything.

                Current concepts of power, responsibility, and blame will be very different in that changed world. . .

                • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

                  In the meantime, these 0.001% "elites" continue to make their own moves. Consider the last two bureaucratic appointments they have allowed:

                  1) Yellen was sworn in as chairman of the fed. Follows the longstanding "elite" plan to blame the jews (and not just the "elite" ones), rather than themselves, straight out of the tired old Medici to Weimar playbook. The MSM gets to focus on her her being the first woman in the fed instead, for the time being.

                  2) Comey as director of the FBI. Who better to protect the "elites" than the man who was specially brought in to handle the "Flame" leak entirely in favor of the "elite" operatives involved, and against the intelligence community. Then they rewarded him to become a hedge fund banker. And now he's supposed to police them?

                  The lesson for those at the government trough, is that the longer they wait to uphold their oaths against a shadow government, the harder will be the task, and the greater will be the people's recrimination in twenty years or so as their newly elected legislature struggles to fund the next batch of government employees. . . sometime after the 0.001% "elites" have long gone.

                  • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

                    My sense is that the 0.001% "elites" and some nationalists in Western governments will never change policy with respect to nuclear power.

                    The energy nuclear plants provide may have started out as a byproduct of and a smokescreen for making nuclear weapons grade plutonium. . . but now nuclear power is a substantial enough energy source that they are afraid to lose it.

                    Consider the Western/"elite" economic model of globalization: over the last 150 years population and oil prodution have grown sevenfold along a hockey stick graph. Increases in population and energy production have allowed the west, with its monopoly on money creation, to enjoy most of the gains in credit expansion while keeping prices low through competition in increasing production.

                    Now that we've hit peak oil, we've entered into a Neverland of QE money printing supporting federal borrowing, ZIRP federal funds rate supporting defunct big banks indefinitely, and most importantly, an opaque quadrillion dollar derivatives market jiggering commodity, FX and energy pricing.

                    The whole thing's a shoe-string operation at this point, and no one knows how long it will last. For all they know, letting go of nuclear power capacity now would send it over the edge.

                    I suspect that, in the final analysis, they value their continued power and money, even if only for a few more years, more greatly than the future harm to themselves, their own kin, or the whole of humanity from radioactive contamination.

                    • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

                      The farce of QE and ZIRP will end someday.

                      The farce that in a world of declining production, consumers should get to pick the price they pay for energy and resources will end someday.

                      Until then the beneficiaries of those policies will hang on as long as they can; keeping nuclear power output around gives them that much more staying power.

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  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

    Obama could grant her clemency and a presidential pardon.

    He is the real culprit here and should be held accountable.

    I am going to email him everyday to place a moratorium on all nuclear activities and to free all three of the protesters. Also a petition can be put on care2.

    • 4Yahshua

      2~22~5995 (out of 6000) Sabbath George Washington's Birthday
      in this "Twilight Zone Apocalypse"!

      Why waste your time? B.O. is just the LATEST puppet in this 33 year Bush Senior New World Order under the Vatican's Christian CROSS, Revelation 13:18 Time may be better spent in connecting the conspiracy dots. Web Search: "Bush Nazi Family Connections". The BEST thing that we can personally do NOW is to SURVIVE physically and spiritually!
      Be savbed and sealed in the Father and Son (Yahweh and Yahshua),Revelation 14:1. Yahshua the Messiah returns VERY SOON and no Vatican NWO Christian CROSS can stop HIM! HalleluYah!
      This ancient transliterated Hebrew word means, "Praise ye Yah!"

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    This sentence was a travesty and this only happens when a judge has no clue what it is that they are really suppose do.. 🙁

    The judge's family will probably all be negatively affected when the next Nuclear Plant melts down in the near future…then daily Nuclear Nightmares/Mass Mayhem/Property Loss/Fear will be his/her by law normal routine. 🙁

    The forest is right out there somewhere behind those trees… 🙁

    • ocifferdave

      Live by the sword die by the sword? Wouldn't surprise me.

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      The forest is right out there somewhere behind those trees…

      Thanks, Obewan. I think I'll go there for some sleep.

      • bo bo

        That's a nice video thanks. I'm having a hard time disabling my smoke alarm that beeps every 30 seconds to alert battery needs changing, so it's kind of hard to get good sleep… the crickets might help obliterate the beeping noise. Why bother getting a ladder.

        • bo bo

          At least smoke detectors don't let you off the hook easy. Outdated nuke plants are much easier to ignore.

          • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA


          • Ontological Ontological

            This poor lady does not deserve this! How about putting that lame bastard O'Bummer in the hole for 3 years maybe we will get back to normal life if that is at all possible!

            @Bo, I just had a smoke detector go crazy a couple days ago. It shrieked then went to buzzing like it was an insect, and later it died. Battery was fine unit was only 3 years old or so. It was outside in my cactus barrel that I used a pipe heater tape to warm the roots for if it freezes this winter. If it got too hot etc. the detector would have warned me. I wonder if it died due to the extra crap in the air. It has been bad here near 40 cpm and it is hitting above 40 cpm across the valley. Perhaps enough extra FUKU dust got inside to change/add to the Am 141's decay rate somehow. It was protected from dust and water.

            • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

              Bo and Onto…IMO, the USA is getting closer to the insanity of North Korea…the USA is water boarding, drone striking civilians, holding 83 yo nuns in 55 degree jail cells, holding Bradly Manning naked on a cot with no blankets for a year while he was awaiting trial. Forcing down the plane of the Ecuadorian President because we thought Ed Snowden was on board….this is now Standard Operating Procedure for the good ol' USA.

              • bo bo

                So true NBO 🙁
                It's kind of insanity on a whole new level in the U.S. since at least in N. Korea – I am guessing – that something like 90% of the population are aware that they are being totally screwed and they are aware that the government never tells the truth.

            • bo bo

              Ontological, you might be onto-something here ( hehe 🙂 )
              Are smoke detectors made extra sensitive in the past 2 years ? Today it was going off because of batteries ( I recognize the beep) but aside from that, lately it goes off so frequently we never really take it serious, it's become 'Peter and the Wolf.' Last year I thought it was because my landlord changed the detectors, but this year, we moved to a new apartment, and it's worse. It's been going off a lot at work too, and it's always false alarm for nothing. I wonder if it has to do with that whole methane thing, or do rads mess up the detector somehow, as you describe…?

        • AirSepTech AirSepTech

          Use caution when disabling, nuclear material inside.

          Do not put it under your pillow 🙂

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      obe…. I agree with your post…and for all the people out there who side with the "law" it is important to know that the facility (Oakridge Labs) the Plowshare Three entered was/is violating the law. They are manufacturing nuclear weapons against all treaties, and their goal was to bring attention to the law breakers.

      I saw another post above about monastics..and living to a 100, Sister Megan has been kept in a jail cell at 55 degrees which is tantamount to torture; proving the USA has become a blatant torturing fascist country.

      Sister Megan did not hide behind a gun to be macho, and her intent was to save future generations from nuclear homicide.

      This 84 year old nun has more cajones than all of the judges, politicians, and 99% of the US population.

      The USA has reached a record low for human rights. Add this to drone strikes, the NDAA, and all the other atrocities committed around the world in the name of the USA.

      Nuke pukes have a special place waiting in the next plane of existence. And some if not all, will most likely watch someone they love suffer from cancer in this plane of existence. Hopefully, they have plenty of soap to wash the blood from their hands.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        It's amazing what a little soap and a very durable hard scrub brush placed in water drenched with tons of fluoride can really accomplish/cleanup.. 🙂

        Nuns are certainly in for some big trouble… 🙁

  • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt


    "I gave you these harsh sentences in hopes that it will bring you back to the political system that I fear you have given up on"

    Both men got 62 months.

    What a totally screwed up system. Murders go free.

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Like "The trail of tears."
      Though the American Indians had adopted the white mans ways, and done every thing requested of them, the trail of tears was to bring them back to the political system that they had not yet given up on.

      The great white father off to cremate care, again.

      Like "Fukushima", too.

      Multiple meltdowns and poisoning of the Pacific Ocean is meant to bring us all back to the power of nuclear that we had given up on…

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    We are not an intelligent species… 🙁

    • hbjon hbjon

      I don't know who the "we" are that you refer to. If you're talking about humans, you must mean that they have not achieved the knowledge and later "wisdom", to know right from wrong.

      One cannot expect intelligence to blossom in an individual when their fed garbage and forced to read nonsense daily. An evil organization can hypnotize and command a dozen nuns to fly planes into building, if given the proper motivational suggestions. For instance, "There are people in that building that want to rape children and torture your family." People can be convinced something is bad even though it isn't.

      We must strive for the highest possible ethical standards in every situation. Whoever ridicules the possibility of a conspiracy is either hypnotized to agree with the side of "conspiracy theory impossibility", or is actually conspiring against a person or group for economical or power gain.

      We humans are a product of our environment, if the environment does not produce positive result, let's take a close look at the reasons why the environment hinders our intellectual potential.

      Nuns that seek to harm nuclear reactors have been hypnotized.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        "Nuns that seek to harm nuclear reactors have been hypnotized."

        Hardly the truth and some people can see the future very clearly, that others can not, since it is the other people that have been/are the ones hypnotized and its everywhere all around you and what I like to call the operating Zeitgeist Matrix. 🙂

      • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

        "command a dozen nuns to fly planes into building" Oh man, I just had a vision of Sally Fields flying into a building.

    • name999 name999

      "…what is this quintessence of dust? Man delights not me…"
      Hamlet/ Shakespeare

  • rockyourworld

    so the nun gets 3 years and the war criminals go free to perpetuate crimes against humanity, still!

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    "U.S. District Judge Amul Thapar said he was concerned they showed no remorse and he wanted the punishment to be a deterrent for other activists."

    Unlike Tepco, who is poisoning Judge Thapar, and his world as he pronounce sentence. Tepco is always saying sorry. Sorry they are killing us. Sorry they lied, Sorry they lie every day. Sorry they are continuing to lie. Sorry we all haven't died yet. True remorse.

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      By the way, I'm not sorry and I have no remorse for finding you a disgusting example of a moral corpse, Judge.

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        But then again, maybe God hardened your heart as in the days of Pharoah, that he may be glorified.

        I hope you are reading this, Judge. Probably make you free her to even just think that might be the case. Something sure hardened your heart. Maybe it was plutonium, though…

        • unincredulous unincredulous

          I had to sleep four hours to get ready for bed. A little sleepy now. Sorry, I am experiencing remorse now for being so light on you, your Judgeship. Going to sleep now to dream up some dreams where the people in charge have at least half a brain that isn't roadkill.

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          Some one needs to take the judge out back and then bend the judge over a lap and he/she should be spanked until black and blue marks are present… 🙂

    • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

      If this judge is so passionate about protecting nuclear power plants, then he missed his calling as a nuclear power plant guard; He should be reassigned.

      Justice certainly wasn't solely on his mind while sentencing a first offense peaceful trespasser to nearly three years in federal prison, particularly when he knows that folks are frequently sentenced to much less time for repeated assaults, drug convictions, DUIs etc. Beating someone to within inches of their life, or getting caught with a marijuana grow operation, or third or fourth offense DUI often results in a criminal sanction far less than 35 months in state prisons.

      Moreover, 35 months in federal prison for a first-offense trespasser should not be required to provide deterrence against trespassing on a nuclear facility from a peaceful demonstrator.

      Rather, that "deterrence" should be security (now lacking) that is effective enough to stop real bad guys, nevermind peaceful nuns.

      Even without addressing the health and political questions of nuclear power in general, the judge missed the point about security (and comparative justice) entirely, falling back into what is now a hollow, broken-record speech about remorse, cooperation, etc.

      It's not about remorse. It's because the feds mistakenly believe it's ok for justice in state court to be worth less than justice in federal court. But most importantly, it's because the publicity the judge fears is about this case, and not the other ones.

      • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

        Justice, decency, and history indicate the resolution should have been a reduced plea to "disorderly conduct" with "time served in custody" as the sanction for the first-offender, peacefully-demonstrating nun, not 35 months.

        We now have a legal system, but no longer a justice system.

        The mot important result should be to – fire the plant security manager and then bring in real uniformed officers and/or soldiers as guards.

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          This was a very clear message sent to others…you will all eat/breath/suck on Radiation Contamination and not only will you morons pay for it all via by law forced taxation, but you will pay for it at all again at the hospitals you will be law be made to visit 🙁 You are not in control!


          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            oops.. but you will pay for it at all again at the hospitals you will be "by" law be made to visit! 🙁

            • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

              agreed that might have been the improper motivation, but that doesn't end the analysis:

              The peacefully protesting nun was charged and convicted of sabotage of a nuclear facility, a law worded so recklesly that it apparently included the damage she caused while defacing the concrete with her demonstrations.

              Yet, consider the fact I'm sure all can agree: her intent was not to release dangerous radioactive materials, and certainly that is the the only harm the legislature should have had in mind when they drafted special laws with enhanced penalties relating to the "sabotage" of nuclear facilities.

              That the law was drafted by the legislature to also encompass her behavior was disingenuous.

              That the police involved chose to over charge the statute when her intent was not the harm envisioned by the law, is chicken shit, squirrelly-nerd-cop behavior.

              That the federal prosecutors involved chose to press those charges is an equally chicken-shit fraud on common sense.

              The connivance of the judge can only be assumed given the non-trivial sentences handed down.

              We would have gotten more for our tax dollars if that entire team of law enforcement and judicial personnel were reassigned to guard the nuclear facility properly.

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          Yes, going on for hundreds of years..just take a look around. 🙁
          " now have a legal system, but no longer a justice system."

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    I think they call that early release and/or by law forced probation…many thousands of hard core convicts now running around without ankle bracelets is what I hear.. 🙁

    Watch out for those nuns though…I hear they are very, very dangerous ladies.

  • or-well

    The Law is the Law
    when we say it is.
    Sometimes it's not.
    It just depends
    if you're with us
    or if you're against
    what we promote
    or one of our friends.
    Peace? Health? A clean planet?
    Satan's Fiends!
    Life to Eternity!
    Melt the keys!
    Keep Amerika safe
    from elderly nuns!

    Just another three
    the State condemns
    as it becomes

  • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

    Sister Rice pleads with judge to give her life behind bars. I never cared for martyrs much. She wanted life? Why not the fucking death penalty? Hell, strap a few pounds of TNT to her and she could have achieved something! Wrote shit on a wall?! This ain't a fucking game! These nuckleheads think it's the 70s and they're at an anti-vietnam war parade. What a waste. Way past time to wake up folks. This is life or obliteration. No mule for sister Sarah.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      She didn't actually plead for a life sentence. That is inaccurate:

      “’Please have no leniency with me,’ she said. ‘To remain in prison for the rest of my life would be the greatest gift you could give me.’
      “She said the U.S. government was spending too much money on weapons and the military, and she told the judge about the many letters of support she had received, including one from youth in Afghanistan.
      "’This is the next generation, and it is for these people that we're willing to give our lives,’ she said.
      “Rice, Greg Boertje-Obed, and Michael Walli all said God was using them to raise awareness on nuclear weapons, and viewed the success of the break-in as a miracle. …”


      • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

        anne: “’Please have no leniency with me,’ she said. ‘To remain in prison for the rest of my life would be the greatest gift you could give me.’ This isn't asking for a life sentence? Then tell me what she's asking for. I know what she said. She said nothing that hasn't been said in every language of the earth for thousands of years, slave to tyrant.

        How dare she try to put herself in the same place as someone deserving of a life sentence. She didn't DO ANYTHING deserving of a life sentence. What, is she saying she's the same as a John Brown?!

        She's and her friends are certainly better than all the keyboard activists put together – no doubt. And as I said, this isn't a game. Time to grow up (past time).

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

          The most sentence she could have received was nine years. It wouldn't surprise me if she is still alive when she is released. Interpretations of what some one has said is rarely as accurate as the actual words.

          They released the Lockerbie bomber when they thought he was dying.
          The most sentence she could have received was nine years. It wouldn't surprise me if she is still alive when she is released. Interpretations of what some one has said is rarely as accurate as the actual words.

          Her words were not asking for a life sentence, but an indictment of our society and the government's insistence to treat them as terrorists when everyone knows intent and motivation are part of the rule of justice. Also the actions harmed no one. Their actions only helped us all get rid of nuclear weapons and nuclear energy.

          The building they were at was a uranium enrichment facility. The amount of Krypton 85 given off by a reprocessing facility is destroying all life on the planet. This facility needs to be shut down. Its existence is a life sentence on all of us and our loved ones of unimaginable pain and suffering.

          Watching our loved ones suffering is the cruelest fate imaginable.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

            Their actions are bring us life and happiness.

          • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

            "Her words were not asking for a life sentence, but an indictment of our society and the government's insistence to treat them as terrorists when everyone knows intent and motivation are part of the rule of justice." No they were not. I've read speeches given by people indicting our society and government and they didn't come even close to saying what she said. I clearly read, she was asking for a life sentence. If you want to indict someone, you use clearly different words. Do you realize the obfuscations you give to obvious intent, is the same thing our jailers use when describing the safety of radiation? You're trying to defend her as the scientist shills try to defend the gov't. Shame on you.

        • Shaker1

          SykeWar, while in some respects I agree in some measure with the gist of your comments, and I certainly don't like martyrs either as the thoughts of the deluded, but I hardly think this woman is one by those standards. A 'life sentence' means something altogether different for a 84 year old person. If her intent was to be a martyr, she would have provoked her death, and I see little of that provocation here, while she did do that somewhat in the break-in itself. She is using direct confrontation, asking the judge as representative of the abomination she sees to directly confront the abomination, to take a stand, and he did neither, doing his 'job' yet claiming some conscience in lightening the sentence. You're right, this is no game, and she's not playing one. As for your disdain for the protest, I don't see much consequence put forth by the type of anger and cynicism you display.

          So the classical Socrates was a martyr? You should put aside your cynicism for a few moments and give some real thought to the matter. I've a clue, for you, too…You won't find the answer in Wikipedia.

          Sorry to be so blunt. But you might have the sense to be at least quiet about something you might not understand.

          • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

            Don't be sorry for being blunt. Don't you ever. You mistake me for my avatar. You're very vague – wishy washy. Hard to have a meaningful discussion with wishy washy. I understand much more than you imagine. Save your imagination for art class. I know we're not going to survive for much longer flying peace kites. Time to grow up. Socrates was a poor judge of character and couldn't hold his poison. Cynicism? Oh, I'm way past cynicism. Give thought to the matter? What's the "matter" specifically? I'm curious. Carry on.

            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

              Nothing wishy washy about Sister Megan Rice. She is far braver than anyone with a gun. And she is more grown up also. She is also living out her words, and not writing anonymously. She is a true hero is the highest sense of the word.

              Who would you rather were president, Obama or Sister Megan Rice? My vote goes to Sister Megan Rice.

              She shows Obama and all the legislators who have not praised her actions and words as complete cowards and narcissists. We need leaders for peace.

              • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

                I really shouldn't but I'm the eternal optimist…
                OK Anne, and how do you suppose were going to get leaders for peace? Vote them in through our corrupt voting system? Ever heard of JFK? Bobby Kennedy? Your Peace Leaders better be bullet proof. Well anyway, this has been a hoot. How's the weather on planet Utopia?

                • name999 name999

                  This Barack Obama reflex here, put Brarck Obama in jail because some judge is doing what judges have been doing for years and years?
                  Presidents are not enabled or empowered to fix every long standing historic problem in America. The executive branch of government is more than a sitting president. The Obama attack is too easy these days and deter our attention from the true actors in the tragedy.

            • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

              syke…Sister Megan succeeded in raising awareness about the nuke pukes proved out by these posts. Understand this, these 3 put boots to the ground, while we are sitting here on our collective asses complaining the "man" isn't telling us the truth.

              Sister Megan succeeds, we are an epic fail.

              • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

                Welp… please speak for yourself when you throw around the phrase, "we are an epic fail". Just cause I took some time out of my busy rebel life to chat with you nice folks, doesn't make me a failure… unless it does. Anywho, "Boots to the ground"? You mean, sandals on the earth? j/k Seriously though, I admire her dedication to her faith and mission. I hope she receives the highest heavenly honors. But consider, when all is said and done, what are we left with? 49.5% of the world sleep walking off the cliffs of Hades and the other 49.5% praying for the Messiah's return so he can fix things.

                • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

                  syke…I get it…I do have boots not sandals…you are right the sleepwalkers aren't going to wake up.

                  This very morning my sister told me she doesn't want to hear any more about radiation, or problems in the world.

                  Honestly, I am disgusted with everything…have you seen the movie "Idiocracy"? This movie was supposed to be a parody of the future USA, but when you watch it you will realize it is very close to what is the current group think mentality.

                  Good luck to us all, because the future looks very dim…

                  • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                    "have you seen the movie "Idiocracy"?"

                    Absolute must see.

                    My sons forced me, they found it funny.

                    I found it more true than imaginable.

                  • name999 name999

                    news blackout…Idiocracy is very funny and accurate to the illness and ugliness of a commodity driven life, the Costco of the future really makes the point;-]]

        • amberlight amberlight

          Sykewar, before you jump to conclusions and make judgments about a person's motives, perhaps you should find out a little more about that person. What I read is that Sister Rice wanted to spend the rest of her life in prison to minister to incarcerated women! She isn't trying to be a martyr, just trying to make life a bit more meaningful and hopeful for the disenfranchised. I am sure the time she spends behind bars will shine a little love light for desperate souls who have been crushed and thrown away by the System!

          • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

            I can only judge by what I see. And I've seen a few things here and there. I didn't know about her desire to work with women from the inside, rather than the from the outside (where she could probably be more useful) for the rest of her life. I'm sure her jailers will be very open to this. Hope she realizes this will bring the law dogs down on her twice as harsh. Hard to talk right with missing teeth. Been there, seen that. Well, I'll pray her end is quick and painless.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      “…The activists cut through three fences to reach a storage bunker that had cost $548 million to construct.
      “They hung protest banners, strung crime-scene tape, and hammered off a small chunk of the fortress-like Highly Enriched Uranium Materials Facility.
      “Messages such as "’he fruit of justice is peace’ and baby bottles of human blood were splashed onto the bunker's wall.
      “Quoted by AP, Mr Boertje-Obed, a 58-year-old house painter from Duluth, Minnesota explained: ‘The reason for the baby bottles was to represent that the blood of children is spilled by these weapons.’
      “The guards that eventually caught Ms Rice found her and her companions singing.
      “They welcomed the security officers and offered to share communion with them, as well as giving them gifts of white roses, candles and a Bible….”

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        Terrorists now know how to enter nuclear facilities: dress up like a nun. Well, it won't make a difference until you are actually caught. But it wouldn't hurt.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      “…Attorneys for Rice and Walli, 65, both of Washington, D.C., said the protesters were engaged in a symbolic act meant to bring attention to America's stockpile of nuclear weapons, which they view as both immoral and illegal under international law.
      "’What I'm hopeful for is that people really could appreciate what he did and why he did it and who he did it for. He did it for all of us,’ Boertje-Obed's wife, Michele Naar-Obed, said before the hearing….”
      Read more:

      • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

        "symbolic act meant to bring attention to America's stockpile of nuclear weapons, which they view as both immoral and illegal under international law." Time to stop the symbology. Are your killers using symbology Anne? I know mine aren't. As much as it's over for us if we don't do something, it's equally over for the games of symbology and words. Time to fucking grow up, man up, armor up and move out and stay gone till the mission is complete. Once we've secured this world for the future, then the Van Goghs can go back to having their fun.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

          When you spit on the people who give their lives without killing anyone you are also spitting on those who give their lives while they are killing people. Are you also spitting on all the military who commit suicide after their service, whether because of all the drugs they are given in the line of duty as well as because people and the government reject them when they come home and they have seen and committed such awful atrocities? Are you spitting on Jack Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy and Rev. Martin Luther King?

          Your spit will win nothing. Division will win nothing. Either we honor all activism or we die as cowards.

          The pen is mightier than the sword.

          Only getting rid of nuclear weapons will help. If we advocate violence, we become as evil as those who are killing us with nuclear radiation and we join their actions to genocide and destruction of the planet.

          If we look at history over the last century and a half, we should see the futility of wars. War creates war, and violence creates more violence. Revenge brings only death to the avenger.

          Who can possibly bring down every nuclear facility and every nuclear country in the world? Only by educating and by joining hands peacefully worldwide will be end the nuclear menace.

          • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

            Diatribe. You're all over the map here Anne. I'm spitting on people now? Very socref-ish of you. Did you have a point to make? I honor people like John Brown the abolitionist, who was white by the way. You can't attack my heroes so you attach wikipedia? You do know who John Brown was right, what he stood for, how he died? Join hands? Anne, this isn't planet Utopia.

            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

              But you don't stand up for any of the millions of people I've mentioned. You don't stand up for the people who were killed in the voter registration drives in the 1960s even though they were peaceful?

              Please don't try to destroy the anti-nuclear movement single-handedly. Please don't give ammunition to the politicians who would take away all the guns that people have for self-defense. When you call for violent revolution, you just hurt innocent bystanders. I don't want to be ruled by bullies and violent murderers.

              • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

                "You don't stand up…" How dare you! You don't know me. As for the rest… you need help Anne. You really do.

                • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

                  Oh… oh wait. I don't stand up cause I don't say what you say and believe what you believe? I couldn't possibly "stand up" as you say, in other ways? Possibly ways far more effective to bring you this "peace" to you on a silver blood stained platter. You don't know me. Stop pretending you do. "Please don't try to destroy…" How dare you! >:-(

          • zogerke zogerke

            Anne i appreciate your posts.

            • zogerke zogerke

              Syke i often appreciate your consciousness and make no assumptions about anyone's motivations or background. However i am solidly nonviolent and appreciate anne vannev's posts here.

              • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

                I too am non-violent. And I got the syke exam to prove it 😉 You say you are solidly non-violent? I see you used the adjective "solidly". Really? In every conceivable case? I could use some stuff. Where do you live? 🙂 just kidding. I apologize to Anne and for diminishing Anne's contributions to this forum.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

          Actually, the nuclearists use symbolism all the time. Your statement is full of symbolism and propagandistic sound bites. A one world government is the death knoll of freedom. Look at Russia. Or look at Egypt. Their revolution has brought about their destruction. The Russian revolution has brought about their destruction. Violence cannot create a peaceful world.

      • name999 name999

        VanneV, thank you for all this additional information on this truly spiritual being. Wherever she goes she will gift others with her wisdon, justice, grace and beauty.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      Gandhi, Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., Pastor Dietrich Bonhoeffer, and many others have made lasting change because they were willing to peacefully give their lives for others. Every person in the military, no matter what country, is willing to give his/her life for others. Protesters who demonstrate in the streets have also given us freedom. Freedom is a gift that must be fought for in every generation. If there is no sacrifice to get rid of nuclear weapons and the dirty bombs which nuclear power and reprocessing plants, we will be doomed by our inaction.

      There is no way to clean up a uranium or thorium mining site or to get rid of the radon released or the chemicals used in mining. Mining for radioactive substances must be banned and outlawed worldwide. Only a tiny fraction of the uranium mined leaves the site for use in a nuclear reactor. The rest is left as uranium tailings at the site contaminating the air, water, and land.

      We must stop using uranium and thorium to produce man made radioactive substances and actinides. The transuranic elements created by nuclear energy are totally manmade and are the most lethal elements on the planet and are completely antithetical to life.

      Psychopathic serial killing must stop.

      • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

        'Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest. — Gandhi
        This Gandhi?

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

          Having a gun and using it aggressively are two different things. What you are advocating would cause everyone to turn against the anti-nuclear establishment. To actively try to rouse everyone to defend themselves with violence is not going to win any heart and minds. People will defend the status quo when facing violence. People will defend a police state when they are facing violence. Violence is never the answer. Gandhi never advocated violence. The people who have immigrated to Belarus have immigrated from violence and would rather face the certainty of future death from radiation than the immediate death from violence.

          Calls to violence will destroy the anti-nuclear movement. You have to emulate the future if you want people to join that future. No one wants a future police state. Death is still the same whether by nuclear radiation or by a gun toting revolutionary.

          • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

            Having a brain and not using it are two different things too. You're thinking with your heart. Not a good organ choice for that.

            "Violence is never the answer." It is when the question's, "Are you ready to die?" Violence as a rule, of course not. But then I'm not saying that and never will. Win hearts and minds? It means alot to me to get major thumbs up from the ipod generation, believe me (rolls eyes – how do you do the rolly eyes thing?).

            "No one wants a future police state." Anne, not much up on current events I see. Ever heard of Kelly Thomas.

            "Death is still the same whether by nuclear radiation or by a gun toting revolutionary." What… you saying I can't aim straight?! Seriously though… what?!

            • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

              clarification: by "But then I'm not saying that and never will." I'm referring to Violence as an answer (for all things – as I infer).

          • Shaker1

            SykeWar, I'm not trying to be condescending in that statement or to even say that your intentions are questionable. But Anne, to me, is correct when she writes "You have to emulate the future if you want people to join that future." Succinctly and well-said, and I might add, self-evident in history. The lesson of failure that your comment impied to me regarding them is not what I get from this. Your cherry-picking without understanding the context of Gandhi's quote and the statement that Socrates 'couldn't hold his poison' is illuminating of unwillingness to understand, and seems to you a contradiction: 'wishy-washy'. While I might think John Brown was as much of an ass as you seem to, but my reasoning for that thought may be much different than yours. I think Brown's reaction to his beliefs were contradictory to his overall beliefs and made him that ass. I see no such contradictions in what Anne wrote, nor in the actions of the nun and Socrates.

            I used the example of Socrates to give you a secular expression of the idea that may be evident with this nun, just so there's no mistake about religious context of the 'martyr' line of thought. Martyrdom was hardly the point in Plato's exposition; it was an idea more than an account of a historical personage, even if Socrates was a histrorical figure as evidenced by his mention in plays of his day. I don't believe it was in the case of the nun, either. If you can't make the distinction, so be it.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    I am dreaming now, I am dreaming of a world in which babies DNA is attacked by invisible monsters. Pretty Cool!

    Now, someone is coming, a dark, dark spirit is cutting wires and spray painting "peace" and "love" and wishing that all may live long and prosper. AAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhrrrrggghhh. Screams horrible screams. Run everyone it's a Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuun. Cut her, Judge!! Bite her!! Tie her up with wire. Gooood. Now kick her. Cut out her filthy tongue and cut off her sprayer finger! Yeeeesssssssssssssssssss! All is well…

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    The "rule of law" does have a purpose after all…absolute control. 🙁

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      The law was given so that sin might increase. – The Bible.

      Makes more sense than "absolute control." Cause the nuclear power plant is sure as hell out of control. So are the people who support it. Looks like sin is increasing. What's the reading now, Tepco?

      …Just dreaming…pay no attention to that man behind and just under that pillow…

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Dreaming more, it's fading in and out. It's in a courtroom…I hear the judge, Nuclear man, do you swear to tell the lie, the whole lie, and nothing but the lie, so help you, evil? And you, ya gonna tell the truth, right? Ha. Got any money, nun?

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Damn, hate these roadkill dreams. Time for a sleeping pill. All natural, of course.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    These herbal sleeping pills smell like old socks after a hard day's work. Smells better than Fukushima, though. Peace.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks


    • GQR2

      enjoy or nightmeres with a smile really ?

      • GQR2

        opps so sorry writing is wrecked.
        more wrecked all the time. its pitiful.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Its our new reality and we should all enjoy it, since it (the future) can not be changed..

        Fukushima happened 3 years ago and you are right now living in the/that future… 🙂

        • GQR2

          When the outdoors is so contaminated,the food tainted,the entertainment a weapon to numb us an make us stupid,needy,fearful and herd-able. Its pretty hard to claim any enjoyment what so ever.

          Being awake is not for the faint hearted.

  • GQR2

    The cold icey hand of the police state is on display.
    The system is only changing and rapidly at that to full totalitarianism. A panopticon.

    The legal system not only blind its Punishment grotesque , abusing with over 2 million prisoners. for profit.

    All the while the propaganda of amuriKan exceptionalism.
    The home of the brave ??
    In what Universe is it brave to kill by remote control? and be called brave?
    To cover up the truth of the death dealing products they manufacture for profit. profit.profit. patronizing the people,calling them "consumers" like the animals on animal farm.

    Until the Patriot Act and Marshall Law is repealed we CANNOT change the system.
    Cannot change it. It is changing us. Hold onto yourselves.
    Fukushima has only made the profiteers,the exploiters,the global cartels on squeeze harder and harder. Surveillance tech companies claiming "first amendment rights"
    When do we imprison the Corporation for their egregious felonious Trespassing ! They assault is daily.
    When do they go to prison for poisoning the children?

    How does the legal work with that system deal with that? This judge is defending an extremely impaired system tainted and twisted by the Patriot Act.

    She asked for life so that the fangs of this monster could be seen, The same beast who lets Lenard Peltier languish on trumped up changes.

    Its chilling. The sentencing should have been National News. Were there any reports ?

  • 21stCentury 21stCentury

    ~~ Sister Megan Rice, Greg Boertje-Obed and Michael Walli ~~

    >> famous historical champions & heroes

    hope to see a Wikipedia page dedicated to them soon

    We scored a historical victory in the movement when we stopped construction of Satsop-NPP.. and the uncontaminated remnants of Satsop remain standing as a monument reminding us of the struggle.
    I hope Satsop stands for a long long time..
    It's a very interesting place to visit and take the kids to go see.
    We should put more effort into improving the anti-nuclear movement museum aspects of Satsop, and rent some office space there as a headquarters for enewsers.


  • ftlt

    The FULL COURT PRESS is coming. They will be opening up a concentration camp or death camp near you soon.

    Corpo Globalist fascism is real and it imprisons, starves, tortures, maims and kills by the 100s of million every decade.

    It is just getting warmed up as the globe shrinks and there is less for all of us – because of CG's policies of waste, greed and abuse.


  • Judge:

    "I gave you these harsh sentences in hopes that it will bring you back to the political system that I fear you have given up on"

    judge, your political system is just that,, a system of deceit to manage the ignorant while the pharoahs swap pens ordering the swords forward, "EYES RIGHT!" is the tune of the drill sargent ordering the brainwashed recruits to pay attention only to the politicians and officers and nothing else.

    No judge, your system is repulsive and should be shunned as rice did so rightfully and honorably.

    there are few reasons I endure, but to piss on the graves of the psychopaths is the first one of that list. this judge is a fool and a tool, a recruit of the devil. there are millions of them to be shunned and scorned as human feces.

  • rockyourworld

    the nun will do her time and the war criminals will be free to keep perpetuating crimes against humanity

  • rockyourworld

    why are we building all these weapons when all our enemies are shill dictators?

  • Nick

    We have atomized our souls.

    Nun but the brave will save us.

  • Funny, I just posted an article about a jihadist camp that is allowed to operate freely in the heart of Texas. Nobody gets arrested.


    Regarding the elderly nun who broke into the nuclear facility, the law has to deal with it, no matter how much people sympathize with her motivations.

    Who is to set the standards of when it's OK to break into such site and when it's not?

    Although I'm with those who advocate for an end to nuclear power, there are more effective and legal ways of calling attention to these WMDs than what this group chose to do.

  • UnclearOptions UnclearOptions

    Is and Arguments thread in order? I vote yes!

  • rockyourworld

    jihadist camp in texas? you mean well armed republicans?

  • haizedustrium-1234 haizedustrium-1234

    Thou shalt not seek for thee treasures on earth thence disposable and fleeting.

  • ss.minnow

    Priests being moved from parish to parish molesting untold numbers of under privileged children to seem to warrant much attention from my recollection . A little perspective is always worthy of noting. "So be it"

    • A previous pope said (that crime) was OK

      I would post the direct link to the Belfast Telegraph news story but it contains a word this site's spam filter won't allow.

      You can find that link on this article, though:


      The pope's words went something like this:

      (that crime) —- wasn’t considered an “absolute evil” as recently as the 1970s … (he) also claimed that —- was increasingly considered “normal” by society. “It was maintained — even within the realm of Catholic theology — that there is no such thing as evil in itself or good in itself. There is only a ‘better than’ and a ‘worse than’. Nothing is good or bad in itself.”

      How's that for moral relativism?

      • john dpugh

        Religion is a social disease. Its infectious and non-treatable. It is the caue of most of the problems we are facing today . Unfortunately it will take many more years until we can rid ourselves from the cancerous entity called belief . I hope science will deal with it sooner or later . Better today than tomorrow i would say , but i am only wishful thinking .

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

          The only problem is that everyone worships something and everyone has a religion no matter what label they give their beliefs. The religion, e.g., of nuclearists is that they believe in nuclear technology.

          • john dpugh

            Nuclearism definitely sounds liek a religion . they behave like religious fanatics. Whatever arguments whatever proof one can show , there is no way of convincing a nuclearists . Maybe it s the enormous power of nuclear energy that attracts them . It is definitely more than just science for them . Weird ,,, and deadly .

        • amberlight amberlight

          Offfff topicccc! Are we here to discuss everyone's views on religious matters or to deal with energy issues and, more specifically, NUCLEAR?

          (But, hey thanks, johndpugh, for attacking the heartfelt beliefs that I and many others hold while attempting to live up to the tenets of our various religious faiths…)

          • john dpugh

            aMberlight i was only commenting on the message above (tracy w) on how religion can tolerate crimes. That is correct this is no place to discuss religion .

            • ss.minnow

              If it were the place for that topic, your comment eliminated any possibility for discussion. I would guess a few people were quite insulted . It's like saying sorry after punching someone in the guts.

              • john dpugh

                why would anyone be insulted . I am not against anyone , i was talking against religion . Not people themselves. But i understand we shouldnt be talking about religion thats why i stopped. I tried to explain what i meant in another comment but it was cut short because of word limit . didnt notice that . Read my comment to VanneV .

        • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

          "it will take many more years until we can rid ourselves from the cancerous entity called belief" I believe you're right. 🙂 You're blaming the symptoms for the disease. Religion is a furry little puppy dog. Treat it nice and it grows up to be a favorite companion, all though it may poop on your floor once in a while (nothings perfect). Treat it harshly and it'll grow up unpredictable and dangerous. WOOF!

          • john dpugh

            Sorry sykewar we can not continue on this topic . It is off topic , my mistake .

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

            "'cancerous entity called belief' I believe…"


            To be human is to have a belief system. There is not a human on the earth that doesn't have a belief system.

            And equating "religion" with the actions of any one person is to be totally discriminatory or prejudging.

            Most people who criticize a particular religion are really talking about a particular person. And most don't have any idea what the religion they are criticizing actually believe. And there can be am many interpretations as there are people alive.

            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

              Humans are very flawed and have been since the beginning of time nor matter what myth is proposed. Every single one of them. Some make better choices than others. Too bad the choices today are so very lethal for the whole earth.

            • john dpugh

              VanneV I don't agree on having a belief system .I think it is not absolutely necessary to have a belief system and considering all the pain and suffering it causes i would rather have no belief than having one .Most of the problems in this world are caused by fanatics , and belief , specially fanaticism can be the end of humanity if nothing changes . I see it as the biggest threat to our existence.
              I am not saying what sister rice did was right or wrong . I am against belief itself .
              There is not a human on earth who doesn't have a belied system , well i am one 🙂 Well ofcourse if you call logical thinking and reasoning a belief system then i am a believer too .

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                Sorry, what you are expressing is your belief system. Begin against others' belief systems is itself a belief system. "I think…" is a belief system in itself.

                I believe in logical thinking and reasoning as well. And I have other beliefs as well. I think science can be practiced in a positive way, but also in a negative way. I believe that people are motivated by their hearts and I value compassion over logical thought. Martyrs for a cause I think is just are my heroes. Sister Megan is one of my heroes.

                I think it is better to judge a person by their actions and sometimes by their words. I believe that the sun will come up tomorrow, but there is always that possibility that something, like a nuclear event or pole shift, etc., may intervene.

                • john dpugh

                  I wouldn't call that a belief system . I consider it logical thinking , but of course it is possible to argue if logical thinking is a belief on itself , if that is what you are referring to .
                  In any case that is not what i was mentioning . I was talking about a belief in the sense of trying to find answers to our existence , creation , afterlife , good and bad , trying to answer these difficult questions in life while bringing its own rules and regulations creating its own cult .Simply i am referring to cultivism and religion , everything we see in the main religions of the world . That kind of belief system is what i was mentioning .
                  In your explanation , the very basics of the way our mind works is considered a belief system . 1+1 is 2 ,, is it 2 or do i believe it is 2 . I say it is 2 , its not a belief but then i may claim that i only believe it is 2 .
                  I was referring to organized religions and cults , and even more than that to people who are fanatically followers of those cults and religions .
                  I see a serious problem there . I think being a fanatical supporter of any ideology , any belief is the cause of most of the problems we are facing today if you really dig down to the bottom of the problem . So much so that fanaticism may eventually mean the end of humanity . It is inherently faulty , it creates groups of people and creates ranks , where one group is =considered superior to the other and thus creates conflict . You must have at least 2 teams to have…

  • ss.minnow

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  • ss.minnow

    I did not slam religion! I only meant to expose the fact that many do. After listening to Helen calldicotts interview with the gentlemen that study's the ill effects of Chernobyl on our DNA, It really does make one consider there may well be a god,and if so I would think a really disgusted god he may be. Pretty complex little planet we live upon. ?????????

  • WindorSolarPlease

    They broke into a nuclear site, that is against the law.

    All nuclear sites are threats to all of us, with killing people and harming the environment, sounds like that should be against the law.

    Who should they have gone after? Who is doing the worse crime? Who should be pardon and what should be stopped?

    Pardon the three and put an end to Nuclear Power.

    • WindorSolarPlease

      BTW..They weren't there to sabotage or hurt anyone, but to create awareness to the people of the dangers.

      • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

        Windsolar….the P3 were there to let everyone know that Oakridge labs were developing nuclear weapons at the Y12 complex against all international treaties.

        • WindorSolarPlease

          Hi newsblackoutUSA

          Thank you for pointing that out more clearly.

          Most Countries are developing nuclear weapons, even though they say they aren't.

          These three were creating awareness to the people to the dangers.

          They weren't there to harm the people or the environment of this Country.

          Like I said….Who is doing the worse crime here?

  • AirSepTech AirSepTech

    And while we all pontificate over actions that were planned and known in advance the outcome, and were acceptable to the cause, it simply continues.

    WASHINGTON – The Energy Department is poised to approve $6.5 billion in federal loan guarantees for the first nuclear power plants built from scratch in this country in more than three decades.

    Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz was expected to announce final approval of the deal at a speech on Wednesday, a day before he visits the $14 billion Vogtle nuclear plant now under construction in eastern Georgia.

    Three government officials familiar with the deal confirmed its details Tuesday. They asked not to be identified because the deal has not been made public.


    Perhaps several thousand people setting themselves on fire over the next few years at this NPP site can get some attention.

    Not until the dead are stacked like cordwood, will people care enough to really change, to take action, to sacrifice.

    History has shown that over and over.

  • WindorSolarPlease

    I call these three… "Graffiti Whistle Blowers", not saboteurs.
    They showed how a highly secure area is not so secure and the dangers.

    When are we, going to protect Whistle Blowers who do their best to show us what is wrong?

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      windsolar…about the same time as when we start protecting earth and all life forms who depend on the earth to live and thrive…the 12th of never.

      • WindorSolarPlease

        newsblackoutUSA..Aren't there laws to protect Whistle Blowers, I thought there was. Guess I'm wrong.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Moral relativism. Hmm. For the greater good of the many. Hmmm. Relieving us all of the Pacific Ocean as a food source. Hmmm. Better than worse than. Hmmm. Fish on Fridays. Hmmm. Depleted uranium destroying the environment. Hmmm. Child molestation. Hmmm. Spray painting and wire cutting. Hmmm. 100,000,000 peta-bq/cubic children. Hmmm. Seens like we have a little bit to think about. Hmmm. What's on Tv??? Hmmm.

  • atomicistheword

    Where is the vicar of God in the equation, bowing to the god of this world? Oh yes! those were the days when they had parties and cake with Adolph Hitler.

    This sentence will backfire and awaken many.

    You are allowed free speech as long as you don't use it; in the home of the oppressed and the land of the slave.

    The cake eating underlings are not amused. They are waking up. Time to play with your Tesla toys.

  • WindorSolarPlease

    Where does the Catholic Church stand on this?
    Do they support their Sister and the other two?
    Are they, pushing for a pardon?
    The Pope knows the President personally.

    Don't get me wrong I am not bashing the Catholic Church as I am a Christian also.
    I just wonder where they stand and if they are helping these three.

    • American Phoenix57

      For a three hour tour. . .a three hour tour. The weather started getting rough the tiny ship was tossed, If not for the courage of the fearless Enenewsers the minnow would be lost, the minnow would be lost.

      Jedi humor is sometimes lost on the newbs.

    • rockyourworld

      the pope is just another shill puppet for the shadow govt, keeping third worlders oppressed and breeding new slave labor for big corp. forget him.

  • ss.minnow

    Not really , pretty simple, google search google search.

    • American Phoenix57

      the comedy spell is broken by a miserable mispost. . .

      For a three hour tour. . .a three hour tour. The weather started getting rough the tiny ship was tossed, If not for the courage of the fearless Enenewsers the minnow would be lost, the minnow would be lost.

      Jedi humor is sometimes lost on the newbs.

  • Oom Werner P. Oom Werner P.

    This forum is certainly not a place for religious or political propaganda, but reading about – sister, nun, religious, Mandela, bombing, killing, radiation, peace and love – have become scrammed up in one attractive brothel. And while we understand more about radiation here and less about the rest, we are seeking for a turning point where money and hate and self-love and fame isn’t symbolic for any of these, and none is symbolic for any of the other except where only real peace and real love is involved.

    A white dove cannot be symbolic of the blood which was stolen from innocent people.
    While I’m yawning for more oxygen, I don’t understand this.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Not sure we are suppose to understand this..confusion in/of/and for the brains of humans has worked marvelously for thousands of years… 🙂

  • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

    The second best way to turn down the signal is to turn up the noise.

    Look for real information and opinion on threads where inapposite, oppositional and truism comments are numerous and suggest trolls turning up the noise.

  • rockyourworld

    free bradley manning and the truth, the truth will set us free.

  • rockyourworld

    they spy on us to see who's onto them

  • rockyourworld

    couldnt they give the nun home jail like the filthy rich guys in suits get? or a no prison, no record deal like george zimmerman got for assaulting a fed? or let her clean the streets like boy george got for 11 bags of heroin? prison? seriously? were all much safer now! ha!

  • rockyourworld

    remember these words "you're either with us or against us" they meant the death of freedom as we knew it

  • rockyourworld

    so seriously, whens the united nations stepping up for the 3 political prisoners in this story?

  • Bottom line; the criminals are running free and the whistle blowers are in jail.

    Catch 22

  • Catch 22 – Nuclear High Technology Plus Safety Assurance Offers Only A False Promise And An Empty Guarantee; via @AGreenRoad