Report: Smoke seen rising from Fukushima Daini after quake but before tsunami

Published: August 21st, 2011 at 8:50 am ET
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Fukushima II (Not I) Nuke Plant Eyewitness Account on March 11, EX-SKF, August 21, 2011:

White smoke seen rising from Fukushima II Nuclear Power Plant in Tomioka-machi after the quake but BEFORE the tsunami.

It was related by people [...] quoting the unnamed acquaintance of theirs who works at the plant. They said they couldn’t name the person as he is higher up in the organization. [...]

Read the report here.

Published: August 21st, 2011 at 8:50 am ET
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56 comments to Report: Smoke seen rising from Fukushima Daini after quake but before tsunami

  • irradiated californian

    whoa, this is a big deal in regards to what tepco has said.


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  • A lot of reports have been done on the reactors cooling pipes were damaged from the quake, remeber when they hooked up the new cooling systwn to the plants and they did not get water to the reactors, leaks everywhere. Tried to say they hooked it up wrong, but it was never able to use exsiting pipeings !
    Independent: The explosive truth behind Fukushima’s meltdown — New …
    new evidence suggests its reactors were doomed to fail … to piping and at least one of the reactors, occurred before the tsunami hit. … The suspicion that the earthquake caused severe damage to the reactors is …
    http://enenews.com/telegraph-explosive-truth-behind-fukushimas-meltdown-new-evidence-suggests-reactors-doomed-fail/comme


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  • Steven Steven

    Yep Daiini had a 10km exclusion zone of it’s own, this was superceded by the 30km zone of Daiichi and so disappeared off the radar.

    Here’s a link to our Aussie SBS ‘Dateline’ program which aired tonight with a story about the effects of Fukushima on local residents. May not apply to all countries but the video is available also.

    http://www.sbs.com.au/dateline/story/about/id/601304/n/Nuclear-Family


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  • sueec

    Interesting, and for some reason disturbingly ironic.

    Also click on red under scored sentence”authorities are conducting checks…” for a further story

    http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2011/07/01/made-in-japan-pet-bottle-plastic-radiation-detector/
    Thanks to Heidi muller for this find


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    • Irritated Kalifornian

      Hi from Kalifornia. Find your comments really interesting & have learned a lot. Just wanted to tell you when I got up this morning PST 6AM I checked enenews & newsblogged & the first thing I saw was an article about how TEPCO had reached cold shutdown in reactor 1. How come no one is talking about this?
      I’ve read comments that say Russia is more dependable than U.S. news So why the silence on this subject? Just asking….


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      • milk and cheese milk and cheese

        TEPCO have redefined ‘cold shutdown’.
        http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110720x4.html

        It’s a great solution. Change the standards (as several governments have for ‘acceptable’ levels of radiation) whenever the data don’t fit your personal reality.


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        • Irritated Kalifornian

          Not to step on any toes here but Tepco says the reactor has been cooled to 100C which is what they have been calling cold shutdown all along. There is reason not to trust them but maybe it has actually happened. Maybe not. Why isn’t it the same as the cracks with radioactive steam escaping story that was posted this week.What makes that true or not.? As far as I can tell no one knows yet for SURE where the fuel is, is it in containment or underground.? Where does it say that is known for sure? I have just heard theories.


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          • Jebus

            This should clear things up for ya…

            Nuclear fuel has melted through base of Fukushima plant

            The nuclear fuel in three of the reactors at the Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear plant has melted through the base of the pressure vessels and is pooling in the outer containment vessels, according to a report by the Japanese government.

            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8565020/Nuclear-fuel-has-melted-through-base-of-Fukushima-plant.html

            ‘Melt-through’ at Fukushima? / Govt report to IAEA suggests situation worse than meltdown

            Nuclear fuel in three reactors at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant has possibly melted through pressure vessels and accumulated at the bottom of outer containment vessels, according to a government report obtained Tuesday

            http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T110607005367.htm

            Fukushima – China Syndrome – The Worst Case Scenario

            The China Syndrome — The worst case scenario — where nuclear fuel penetrates the earth and pollutes the groundwater is happening at Fukushima.

            TEPCO has acknowledged they just ‘discovered’ over 6,400 spent fuel rods in a basement beneath Fukushima which is shared by all reactors at the plant. TEPCO has confirmed a groundwater leak in the basement.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFLipZWlpOs

            Now why the hell would the government of Japan give that report to the IAEA?

            Why would these nuclear engineers say that they believe there has been a meltout?

            Do you think they are just speculating on theories? Do you think that they have not done their homework?

            Has Tepco been forthcoming on all accounts of this nightmare previously?

            Do you believe the ones buying the goods or the ones selling the goods?


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          • Arizonan Arizonan

            The reason I mistrust the TEPCO temp reading indicating the corium is under 100 degrees is because I understand the temp gauge to be in the containment building, but not the corium. I don’t read any reports of TEPCO workers swimming down to the basement with a thermometer to measure the current heat in the corium….


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      • VanneV anne

        Do you have a link? I couldn’t find anything more recent than m&c’s article July 20.


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        • VanneV anne

          I don’t know how they can measure the pressure of a broken reactor. Also there should be a margin below 100 degrees Celsius. Who is going to go to check out the measurements on Reactor #1?

          “In a nuclear reactor, shutdown refers to the state of the reactor when it is subcritical by at least a margin defined in the reactor’s technical specifications. Further requirements for being shut down may include having the reactor control key be secured and having no fuel movements or control systems maintenance in progress….
          “A reactor is in cold shutdown when, in addition, its coolant system is at atmospheric pressure and at a temperature below 200 degrees Fahrenheit (approx. 95 degrees Celsius).[1] This temperature is low enough that the water cooling the fuel in a light water reactor does not boil even when the reactor coolant system is de-pressurized.”
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_%28nuclear_reactor%29


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      • Steven Steven

        @Irritated Kalifornian (nice parody btw)

        “why the silence on this subject?”

        Best case scenario – TPTB feel a genuine sense of compassion and concern for our welfare and don’t want us to over react. This hypothesis depends on TPTB either actually believing that ‘the events’ pose no serious threat, or that the threat is so terrible that knowing about it wouldn’t help, and would impact negatively on what little time we had left.

        There are alternative scenarios but that’s a nice warm and fuzzy Christian outlook so a good place to start your investigation. Don’t be too suprised if you eventually end up with a rather more unpleasant hypothesis.


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  • sueec

    @ Steven sbs/ dateline did play story and prob the promo will now soon change to video after it plays in Perth ( + 3 hrs).?


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    • Irritated Kalifornian

      @Steven Thank you for your post. Yesterday was the first time I was on this forum & I have to tell you I was a little intimidated, it was kind of like,to you all, I was a jerk asking where the fuel was. Like everybody knows that. Well I don’t know if you are a fan of Arnie Gundersen or not but I was relieved when I saw his latest video in which he says when he was asked where the fuel is, he said he couldn’t comment because there was not enough DATA. That was exactly what I believed, that we really didn’t know!! Apologies if I took you all the wrong way, but although I am not a scientist I was trying to think like one & I knew all the stories of where it was supposed to be but they all seemed conflicting. Let me tell you I had to sit down & write Arnie a Thank-you note. Talk to you all later.


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  • Pensacola Tiger Pensacola Tiger

    Someone’s probably posted this, but it’s worth being redundant:

    Inside Fukushima – interactive guide

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2011/aug/20/fukushima-interactive-guide


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  • jackassrig

    It has been my contention that the piping failed before the tsunami. They lost the power but more importantly they lost the piping systems. I don’t believe they ever updated their piping with the increasing severity of the storms and earthquakes. There is a vast difference between a 6.5 and 9.0 earthquake. The loading on the supports may double or triple.


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  • Jebus

    TEPCO Releases Rare Video From Inside Fukushima Daiichi

    POSTED BY: Eliza Strickland / Sun, August 21, 2011

    http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/energy/nuclear/tepco-releases-rare-video-from-inside-fukushima-daiichi


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  • StillJill StillJill

    Monday, August 22, 6:10 (JST)

    New news:
    “Disaster-hit Japan faces leadership change
    The revolving door to the Japan prime minister’s residence is likely to spin again before the end of this month as Naoto Kan bows out to make way for the country’s sixth new leader in five years. The centre-left premier is widely expected to quit within about a week, almost half a year since the devastating March 11 quake and tsunami sorely tested his leadership and turned him into Japan’s top anti-nuclear crusader. The frontrunner to take his post is his finance minister, Yoshihiko Noda, a less divisive figure who has even floated the idea of a grand coalition with the conservative opposition to tackle Japan’s problems. Trade Minister Banri Kaeda and former transport minister Sumio Mabuchi have also thrown their hats into the ring, while others, including former foreign minister Seiji Maehara, are weighing their options.” (AFP)


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  • pg

    I was on the news 24/7 4 days in a row after the tsunami. Diatchi was reporting 4 reactors down, Daini said one down with radiation detected, Oganawa reported 3 cooling pools cracked and leaking. Later they reported water splashed out of the pools and that was all. Then, they lost under water grid feed. In addition downed portions of grid may have been to blame for a Xenon release from the west side of the island a few weeks later so yeah, while all eyes are on Diatchi, people best not forget about plant issues.


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  • Jebus

    Sad, that the US News can not/will not report the truth.

    Fukushima zone likely off-limits for ‘decades’

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-22/fukushima-radiation-500-times-safe-limit/2849394/?site=melbourne


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  • VanneV anne

    I suspect that the core is so far underground that they can’t find it to measure the temperature.


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  • bigisland bigisland

    As for Daini, it is known to be run by the military. Conceivable they have been doing something up their sleeves especially if the military and “higher up in the organization” Yakuza are involved in Daini, it’s probably a well kept secret who the sales go to. The large release of radioactivity from the accident at Chernobyl has resulted in considerable concern about the safety of the five large military production reactors that produce weapons-grade plutonium for U.S. nuclear weapons. Mox fuel rods in Fukushima reactor 3 present multiple dangers, let alone possibly “other” Japanese nuclear power plants that could get “caught” doing all this crap that’s bad that may yet still be unknown to the rest of the world because the rest of us are not suppose to know. The Japan nuke plants are built and harnessed on some bedrock, The landfill rock just crumbles in one’s hand. Tsunami and more water turns landfill to mud. Buildings sink in mud, like Reactor 4. Bad enuff more earthquakes will come to area of fault lines with compromised nuke plants there. Look to Arnie Gundersen at fairwinds for Fukushima updates to view in video and transcript. “And finally, all reactors are continuing to emit radiation, the containments have failed. So it’s going down as water and it’s going up in steam, and there is no plan in site to prevent that from happening in the future.” A.G. Seems very unclear at the moment where this is going to stop. It sounds as though they have a serious problem – this is the sort of thing Nuclear Engineers have nightmares about. The problem is that you can shut down the chain reaction in the reactor; but if it has been running for any length of time, it has a huge inventory of radioactive waste material from the reaction, which keeps pumping out heat. Anything up to 10% of the heat in the reactor is from these ‘so called’ fission products. And you can’t shut it down. You HAVE to cool it. They are systems which are designed to fail-safe; as long as they all function the way they are supposed to function – the difficulty is here that we don’t have any significant information about the problem in the cooling water. There is a finite probability that it will not be contained. That is the alarming possibility. I am sure that they will be doing everything concievable to ensure that the core is not uncovered.”~Galvin D.J. Harper Suppose it is because there are no answers, that the truth of the dangers and more dangers ahead are kept from panicking the public around the globe. Of course the Japanese people there are frightened and so ought the rest of the world be.


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    • Big Island

      Recently I read that the reactors could continue fissioning until all the “fuel,” in whatever form it now exists, is gone.

      I believe that amount of fuel could kill an awfull lot of the northern hemisphere.

      The radiation levels at the plant seem to be rising. Unit 1 may have been brought down to 100c because the core has left the measurement device area. What do you think?

      I’m worried that another explosion is imminent with the cracking grounds and high radiation. What do you think?

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  • CB CB

    Where’s the tweet and facebook buttons?


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  • Jebus

    And for anyone wondering about the smoke from Fukushima Daini as the tsunami hit:

    Scroll to the middle of this page for the picture

    http://www.electrondance.com/?p=2763

    If Fukushima Daiichi had better defences against the tsunami, we wouldn’t be talking about a 20km exclusion zone right now. But it’s important to note there’s another Fukushima nuclear plant, Fukushima Daini, which was also overwhelmed by the tsunami. It achieved cold shutdown four days after the earthquake and is not in danger of meltdown.

    A direct link to the picture:

    http://www.electrondance.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/fukushima-daini.jpg

    Sure looks like smoke to me….


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  • VanneV anne

    This is what I got for the second link:

    Forbidden

    You don’t have permission to access /wp-content/uploads/2011/07/fukushima-daini.jpg on this server.

    Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.


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  • VanneV anne

    I don’t believe that the reactors at Fuku Daini are in cold shutdown. I saw and posted a report months after Mar 11 that 3 of the reactors at Fuku Daini are reported at the same level of concern as the #4 reactor at Fuku Daiichi.


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    • Sickputer

      Could be they are struggling also to contain Fuku 2. Probably won’t find out unless Fuku 1 plant blows up and then Fuku 2 will fall next when workers flee there also. Worst case scenario of course unless the reverse happens and Daini decides to blow sky high first. Lots of scenarios in an island that averages 1,500 earthquakes a year.


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  • Jebus

    Here are some great HiRes pics of Japan Nuclear Power Plants..

    http://cryptome.org/eyeball/japan-npp/japan-npp.htm


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  • lokay5

    Shouldn’t be any problem to achieve “cold shut-down” because they define cold shut-down as the point when the bottom of the pressure vessel is below 100 degrees. No problem, because the fuel long ago melted through the damn pressuer vessel. IT’S EMPTY!


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    • Sickputer

      Yep and the Blob is still on the pendulum cycle…
      Repost from Enenews Facebook

      http://atmc.jp/plant/rad/?n=1

      Reactor 1 radiation level swings back up again to 375 Sieverts on August 22…will it break the previous alltime high tomorrow? Does this look like a reactor that is anywhere close to being contained? Direct exposure to that level kill 100% of the human workers within 2 days.


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