Official: Gas coming up 4.5 miles away is “very, very similar” to gas near giant Louisiana sinkhole – “That would be very remarkable” (VIDEO)

Published: September 29th, 2012 at 9:34 pm ET
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September 29, 2012 Resident Briefing in Assumption Parish:

At ~2:30 in

Chris Piehler, Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality: In fact, we got a call from down in [???] St. Vincent, “I’ve got gas in my well too.” …

Went down there and sampled his well…

I told Mr. Pate at the time that some of the samples I collected there looked very, very similar to the same samples I was collecting form those industrial wells…

That would be very remarkable [if samples are similar]…

All of a sudden that expands the reach of this thing another 4 miles from what the site is.

Watch the full 23-part briefing here

Published: September 29th, 2012 at 9:34 pm ET
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17 comments to Official: Gas coming up 4.5 miles away is “very, very similar” to gas near giant Louisiana sinkhole – “That would be very remarkable” (VIDEO)

  • lam335 lam335

    So it looks like the entire state of Louisiana is going to get swallowed up by the sink hole. Once the "Bayou State" has disappeared from the map, I guess we'll have to grant statehood to Puerto Rico just to keep the number of states at 50 (otherwise, we'll have to re-design the flag to have only 49 stars, which seems a shame since it's nice and symmetrical now).

    Why are corrupt companies allowed to jeopardize the well-being of their surrounding communities in such far-reaching ways with so few consequences for the companies themselves?

    Texas Brine is no different from TEPCO.


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    • many moons

      we have to stop this!


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    • WindorSolarPlease

      Welcome to Corporate World lam335

      Quote: Why are corrupt companies allowed to jeopardize the well-being of their surrounding communities in such far-reaching ways with so few consequences for the companies themselves?

      Because they can..and they will keep doing it if they desire more profits and power.


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      • harengus_acidophilus

        Why?
        If you work for them, buy their "food", sign their insurance or credits buy their vehicles (just look like "cars") and so on.
        With every single deed in your life you have to choose:
        would you prefer the easy way or the right way?

        You have to take you part from the "pain of the world" if you refuse your obligation, the other one have to take your part too.

        Maybye your decision is tipping the scales.

        Look in the mirror and ask yourself: what's my part?
        What's my obligation?

        h.


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    • omniversling

      @Iam35…it's called 'corporate regulatory capture'. Corps fund politician's election campaign, often both sides, so either way their chosen candidate, or several of them, get to make the rules. Guess who the rules favour, and who's backs are scratched in return…the electorate?

      We seem to have entered the period that usually comes near the end of an empire or system when corruption, nepotism and elitism crash the pillars of the system. Governments on the whole no longer represent us, but rule us. Profit the few at the cost of the many. Privatise the profit, socialise the loss.


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      • lam335 lam335

        Yes, I agree with the idea that regulatory "capture" is a huge part of the problem. That is certainly one of the main mechanisms by which they manage to get away with these abuses. But why does the rest of the population tolerate it? We see the same appalling abuses happen again and again in different places across the world, yet most people just won't pay attention or see the relevance of the problem to their own lives. And for those who are concerned about these problems, there doesn't seem to be any way to really change things. If we could get the majority to understand and care, there might be some hope for change, but that seems unlikely if the broader population's (non-)reaction to Fukushima (and its appalling aftermath) is any indication.

        It's very depressing.


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    • FREEDOMROX

      This to me is very irresponsible reporting. This is from a meeting waaaay back in September. Since that time, the isotopic data shows for a fact that the gases found did not come from any of the other caverns. Not butane from those two caverns especially.

      Mr. Pate is the man who could light his water on fire, as reported here: http://enenews.com/tv-man-lights-tap-water-fire-4-miles-sinkhole-noticed-bubbles-after-giant-hole-formed-wasnt-like-before-video

      Now, although I believe shallow methane from one of the formations is entirely capable of migrating to Mr. Pate's well, and that it may come from the same formation pouring into the Oxy 3 failed cavern, but in no way do I believe it came from any of the other caverns.

      I am writing up an article to show what was discovered at the last meeting and it is quite a lot. We have six candidate's for the methane gas and the proof of fractures that may just find their way so far west, but this story above is a non-sequitor, and by a gentleman that admits he isn't qualified to make the determination.

      There have been enough coverups during this fiasco, but this is not one of them.


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      • Thad

        I live 120 mi away -about twice a year got to belch my water well tank.
        Old man Joe Patrick blew up his well house one morning, blew his tank butforgot to cut power to well pump. Pressure dropped -pressure switch turned pump on and something arced. BOOM.
        In Louisiana swamp country "swamp gas" methane not uncommon–


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        • FREEDOMROX

          I agree Thad. Dangerous ground, yet his one statement then has stuck with me, and that he's had the well for years and it never shown these properties until the 'stinkhole' formed.

          That's the only reason I do not dismiss it out of hand, because it could be indicative of a major geologic shift. It could easliy be nothing, but if he was 75 ft. down, then he should have been in the 'sweet spot', since swamp gas is a biological process underground, and not in a suspension, but would be indicative of a gaseous formation migration, which is the only way methane could be in an aquifer. Unless he has a leaky well casing.

          Your story concerns me Thad. Deeply.


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  • markww markww

    People are reporting they are getting sick.Something is not right in this whole problem.

    Officials not understanding what is going on at all.

    ITS WAY over their heads. I said from the get go have real scientists and engineers and others come in and see what is Going on FROM NASA to Oil engineers from across the Country work together to solve this massive explosive yes I said explosive event.

    Gas is liquid, then there is gas that is in a vapor bubbling up and something will go BANG Millions possibly Billions of barrels of explosive dangerous stuff can go AND NOT ONE PERSON CAN COMMIT TO THE TRUTH. EVERYONE HAS THEIR HEAD IN THE SAND . We have a massive disaster building up and it could be the most destructive event mankind has ever seen.

    Millions of barrels of liquid gas in a dome whose to say it wont get pushed out if the original dome falls over and finishes filling up and leaning over. Thy say it can't happen the gas will stay in the ground BS all it needs is a push and its done explosions that wipe out hundreds of miles of everything.
    Mark


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    • harengus_acidophilus

      One Question:
      Which miracle provides instaneously enough oxygene so the butane can react in a explosion.

      You said, you're a retired firefighter.
      Firefighters know: w/o oxygen nothing burns…

      It's not fair to play with emotions!

      h.


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  • markww markww

    harengus_acidophilus you have the internet research your own question and answer. If the salt dome tilts over or collapses it could force out liquid butane from out of the ground.

    Since no one is really getting a answer we have to look at what could happen.

    Pressure from one salt dome could squeeze and push out butane liquid into the air and expansion ratio is about 1600 to 1 liquid to air


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    • harengus_acidophilus

      Yes, but this expansion
      from liquid to gaseous is a different league
      compared to the explosion of butane mixed with oxygene.

      You're talking about a gigantic o2 driven explosion.
      Laws of nature: it's impossible to get enough o2 -in situ- it takes time. Conclusion: in the worsts case, butane will expand and BURN, but not explode.

      A firefighter should know this.
      But YOU draw a picture of a 'gargantuic' explosion.

      Why?

      h.


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    • Thad

      Tilt over into what space, agaim collapse into what space. Its only about 6 cubic MILES of salt.
      Can't tilt, movem collapse with space to do it in—


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  • markww markww

    here is your answer to the butane explosion harengus_acidophilus

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm3a5s7p77Y&feature=player_embedded


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    • harengus_acidophilus

      "See it with the eyes!"
      Aaa, err, ehm I ha-ha-ve seen it.
      Someone with fear…

      I'm prefering thinking about, cold brain, building an inner image.
      This situation IS serious, but if our rationality get lost…

      No difference between greed and fear, both kill the brain,
      misleading to the wrong direction.

      Take care, be aware!

      h.


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    • Thad

      Idahopicker– expert on what — nothing — and if you post any disagreement he bans and blocks on all three of his identities.


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