State Rep: Sinkhole disaster could go on for “many, many years” — We need to understand what may happen if this thing goes any further (VIDEO)

Published: November 9th, 2012 at 3:46 am ET


Interview with Louisiana State Representative Joe Harrison
Host Marlin Folse
Nov. 5, 2012
h/t rainbeaudais

At 23:00 in

Louisiana State Representative Joe Harrison: When I say the future, this is something that could go on for many, many years.

That’s what we need an information to give to the people that are there, and to the local officials on accommodate the needs of protecting the public from it.

And also understanding what could potentially happen in the event that this thing goes any further than it has at this point.

See also: [intlink id=”top-official-warns-sinkhole-could-lot-further-potential-substantial-lot-information-dont-start-rumors-video” type=”post”]{{empty}}[/intlink]

Published: November 9th, 2012 at 3:46 am ET


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40 comments to State Rep: Sinkhole disaster could go on for “many, many years” — We need to understand what may happen if this thing goes any further (VIDEO)

  • Sol Man

    We are in dire need of checking our modus operandi, whether it be for the reason of salt domes collapsing, NPP meltdowns,cancer-causing gmo crops planted in a majority of the farm fields, frack chemical aquifer breach, central bank market intrusions, we have the ability to create insurmountable problems that will cause irreparable harm to our communities, our families, where we are all at risk of harm or death. We must err on the side of caution which we fail to do time and again. It must not be the corporate mandate for ever increasing profits that must be seen as paramount, but taking care of our families and close friends in order to insure our survivability into the future.

    • gladys a milyon gladys a milyon

      " we " haven't done any of these things. Unless you work for Texas brine. Monsanto. Bp . Etc. Which you very well.may. and this is your form of.penance.
      I however don't.
      Just cause a human has done it. Don't all together. " we" didn't slaughter anyone.

      • Sol Man

        No, I didn't slaughter anyone either, nor did I abscond with any person's property and life saving by fraudulent means. The "we" that I wrote only refers to us collectively as the human beings on the planet. And, some persons have elevated corporations, that did us and our ecosystem great harm. Very much too bad.

        • Maggie123

          Hi Sol Man – I frequently use 'we' to mean all humanity also. From my observation across time, each of us participates at least in small ways that contribute to the mess. Something in 'broad cultural values' has allowed these corporations to become what they've become, same re financial scandals and same re govt involvement. It's not like we could have foreseen easily – I don't judge us harshly.

          But IMO if we don't recognize innate human 'tendencies' that lead to this kind of mess, (and other innate 'tendencies' such as empathy and cooperation that offer alternatives), we'll carry the "seeds of havoc" with us, even if we clean up the messes we're in!

          IMO it's important that we not beat ourselves or one another up – but that we are willing to say: "Hey – this isn't what we wanted, how did we get here, how can we understand and re-build to something better for all life/earth?"

          I do *not* mean dour bleak lists of rules – I think we carry buried potentials we've ignored or dismissed – like empathy which we've displaced with hierarchy and aggression. I don't think humanity had enough general knowledge of itself to behave differently until late 20thC when more people became aware of how our individual psychology develops out of infant vulnerability.

          (More to say but hopefully this captures gist of my view.) 🙂

    • Radio VicFromOregon

      Your list is a good start, and your understanding that it will take collective work on everyone's part is right on IMO.

    • Weeping Lulu Weeping Lulu

      I agree with all comments but truth is, people can't get away from the almighty money god that has eaten away the very morals we all claim we have.. All people that read the many sites posts as well as news media outlets that keep us up to things when we dig for info, know when to move out to dangers way. You just can't say you didn't know when the wall was going to fall because you had early warning we just didn't move, finger pointing aside for now. I thought it was interesting that these oil/gas companies are allowed to get away with events even the army core of engineers already see. Google navy map of the usa and you can get a rude awakening to what global warming and humans will do to the planet and it effects everyone, it's called the domino effect for a reason!! I don't believe people see the magnitude of the fall until it bites us in the a$$ and we run around looking for a bandaid just to make another cut, insult upon injury! Wow

    • 16Penny 16Penny

      I have heard of burying a story but I was shocked to find this:

      Guess that is one way of keeping a huge disaster off of a President's record.

  • We are seeing the results of looking through the eyes of the 'extractor'.
    These people see profits and money instead of human beings .
    Profits before basic needs .

    The flow of information must not be hindered .
    The people affected must have everything presented immediately .
    The corporations involved must be held accountable and responsible for this ongoing disaster . Lives are at stake .

    • gladys a milyon gladys a milyon

      Call me.crazy. but I don't see how profits come into play. They are just killing ppl and thrbworld for fun at this point. Death before.profits.

      • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

        Just like taxfraud is just a innocent game of hide and seek for welthy adults ? Just like they do with the money they safe from butching safety rules and regulations (and elections) to spend on bribing/lobbying against regulations. Nothing to do with selfissch motives . Neither the bonusses they give
        themself…And it is "impossible" to know in advance eventual consequences for "population" so no ill meanings there too, ? Despite all the
        rioting/protesting against their behaviour and methods truout their lifespans , all the big industry's death and destruction modus operandi ..Its
        just…accidents ?
        But its easier for you to think all this is coming from random sadisme ?

        Sorry gladys , i think your crazy 🙁

        The "we" comes in to play from passively flourisching in a culture that creates this kind off mindset to evolve in to the "sickness" that given
        destructif power "like a npp, or wall street" WILL evolve in to disaster , and despite understanding that it aint supposed to happen that children get cancer , lacking the will to see true and Force the regulations down their comfortzone . I would use militair force to do this and confiscate every papertrail/email that proves how their selfissch/narcistic/psychopatic dissorder is murdering us , let out the medical/recreative cannabis users from jail to make room for the real criminals.
        Then FIX the machine we call culture .

        • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

          "We" is humanity and "We" are doing this , driven by selfissch motives allows us to be blind . Programmed/brainwasched or not , we are the

          som of a lifetime of choiches based on what we want and what we understand . Both as an individual and as a collectif organisme.
          Yeah , i know, this one is a sour one , but its that or dying guilty of genocide . Everyone of us !

          • Maggie123

            Hi DID, I posted a reply to Sol Man above on this. Am now realizing it's one of our "best shift to off-topic" themes! It could 'grow' as a discussion point! I've posted a quick note to the theme of responsibility of "we" at off topic and linked it to back here, should any and more want to build on this. I think it's a GREAT topic! 🙂

            • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

              Thank you Maggie , i have to go for the weekend , but i will check it out and see if i have something to ad .
              Its good to have you around , every one of your post makes me see the aggression in mine lol .
              I'm learning , i swear…;)

          • Radio VicFromOregon

            DID, yes it is a sour one! I'd go a little further and say that it IS "we". If i buy electricity that was made from nuclear power generation, then i am part of "we". If i buy food made by Monsanto, then i am part of Monsanto. We don't get to be absolved of our responsibility that as consumers, voters, what have you, we have supplied the money to make this mess. For all that folks claim to be powerless here, "we" can change it by no longer agreeing to it, and that is sour, indeed, cuz that means making alternative choices that are not always cheap, easy, or pragmatic. Even this "damn sinkhole" as i call it. It was MY responsibility to find out where oil comes from, where it is stored, what the company i buy it from is doing all before i bought it. And, even if i can't find out everything i think i need to know to make an informed consumer decision, then i tried. And, if i stopped nefarious activities by that company and i still want their product, then i had better offset it with some good somewhere else, maybe in an area that i have more influence, like paying $40 a year to offset the carbon fumes from my car by insuring 3 trees don't get chopped down somewhere. Texas Brine is responsible but so am i. I made Texas Brine possible by giving them my money.

            • 16Penny 16Penny

              Vic, you are close with that. The frustration I am feeling is that I am not a nuclear scientist, so I pay taxes in order for the government to hire qualified people to regulate the industry. I elect officials to regulate land use, monitor the environment, audit the financials of companies etc. We (in america) pay their salaries, provide them an official vehicle, health insurance (I think you get the point).

              Part of the societal step of moving from small communities to very very large communities is having specialized people to perform certain tasks for the group as a whole. Our recent politicians have done their best to convince the populous that we are protected from everything under the sun by them and that we are not capable of making many of our own decisions.

              I agree that we as consumers are funding this, but you must see how many of these companies are doing backroom deals that the general public cannot be reasonably expected to know about. Many "citizens" (voters anyway) lack basic education. Are you and I responsible for their decisions as well? Am I supposed to know what cereals have GMO ingredients when the producer may not even be aware because his supplier did not disclose it? Am I supposed to tell my children that they need to care for themselves so I can go inspect a leak at a NPP?

              I do like some of what you said I just think some of it is impractical. Please, this is not an attack, just an attempt at constructive criticism.


  • 600 Feet wide,440 feet deep, extending down to 7000 feet …
    Listening to the video and trying to get a grasp of how large the current boundary dated October 4.
    Yes, I agree . This is going to get worse . A lot worse .

  • WindorSolarPlease

    I don't see how this could end well, and I would like to know what is the worst that can happen. I would assume you would have to know what was all dumped, how much, and if the gulf disaster is playing a part in this. I feel like we are all guessing at this point with little factual information.

  • sentinelle sentinelle

    It would be awesome to be able to see the graphics up close and a legend. Anyone know what the yellow layer represents? It appears to be seeping out the bottom to the left?

    What were the details of the kinked pipeline that could have blown out a 5 mile radius? Was that the butane? Thx!

    • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

      @sentinelle, here you go.

      another interesting diagram

      and no it was not butane, but natural gas, as I recall.

      • sentinelle sentinelle

        Thank you!

      • sentinelle sentinelle

        Thanks again for sharing the link to the readable version of the "Conceptual Model of Current Situation"! Studying it raises even more questions. Why in the world would they even drill a cavity that close to the edge?! A recently uploaded report mentioned the industry was only in its mid life and needed to go beyond the way the caverns were used to date. The report also encouraged expanding existing caverns by pointing out naturally occuring wide caverns appeared stable.

        Big Hum? I think I've read about it. Were they drilling for oil here prior to the sink hole?

        It doesn't appear from the sketch that the salt dome would collapse due to this, but instead the greater problem might be the contamination of the aquifer. Couldn't the bayou drain into the earth or aquifer?

        And lastly, the technology amazes me in how they can drill an observation well down and over to exactly the top of the cavern, hundreds of feet underground, yet carelessly ruptured the side of the cavern because they didn't know where the exact edge was located.

        • Radio VicFromOregon

          sentinelle, PavewayIII posted an answer to your question about hitting the side of the cavern somewhere back many articles ago. He said they were using old maps. Newer geological maps were available, but, they would have cost a little money to get a copy.

        • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

          @sentinelle, Big Hum is major vein, and it has been tapped for oil, plenty of times, and in plenty of places, now I think it could be a conduit for gasing off.. if we had pressure coming up through that vien, couldn't it have been the reason for the cavern failure?

          I have posted this before, but it gets lost, pretty large pdf, start at page 19 of 49 for a real EYE OPENER..

          History of the the industry in the area
          "Discovery Thinking Has Led to 70 Years of Continued Exploration and Development at Stella Salt Dome, Plaquemines Parish, LA*"

  • crystalwind crystalwind

    Great video. 14:14–If this kind of disclosure becomes usual it would put a lot of pressure on the practice of approving unsafe technologies. That in turn would direct energy onto researching safe technologies. I do not say "alternative" technologies. There should be no "alternative". The choice (in my Utopia) needs to be "safe" and "safe only". Stop messing with Nature. It's bigger than Man. Man is only a tiny part of it although his ego says he is most of it. Second Law of Thermodynamics (Entropy Law) teaches us to make as small a ripple in the system as we can, because the results of our actions upon nature will always return more problems than the initial situation presented.

    • Maggie123

      Crystalwind – Good video, agreed – with Cataclysmic on journalism also! Sparks some thoughts, am shifting to Off-topic page as I see within the video a cultural wide entanglement with income security and mortgages as very significant forces that could discourage greater honesty along the way to present Sinkhole situation.

  • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

    I thought real journalism was dead, and politicians who cared, few and far between. I am proven wrong by these two men. Truth, and accurate reporting, good questions, and some answers.

    The meeting on the 25th will provide dna of the liquid that is seeping into the cavern. This will allow them to know for sure, where the liquid is coming from and what it is.

  • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

    reposting here as this thinking deserves a bit of enenews examination, and it has scrolled off of the current comments.

    Speaking of the deep water horizon, sinkholes, and Japan Earthquakes, here is a video from a year ago, and he talks about the geology of Japan and what is happening, and the macondo well debacle and the fracture of the salt dome, called for folks to get out of that area.

    Now, he also weaves a few conspiracy theories in there, which I take with a grain of salt, if you will, but his geology, pictures, and maps, are indeed worth the watch.. I forgot he ever talked about the salt dome and the drilling, I might have even thought he was a bit looney toons, but the diagrams/pics are worth checking out as it sure seems to explain some bubbling in the bayou..

    I was searching for his explanation of the earthquakes in Japan for Richard, and decided to give it another watch. Glad I did because it surely connects the dots, and remember, you don't have to believe 100% of what he, or anyone says, that does not mean that some of what he says isn't true.

  • dosdos dosdos

    You know you're in trouble if the words "if", "could", "should", "might", "in the event", or others like them appear in a news release.

    • dosdos dosdos

      You know you're in trouble should the words "if", "could", "should", "might", "in the event", or others like them appear in a news release.

      • dosdos dosdos

        You know you're in trouble in the event that the words "if", "could", "should", "might", "in the event", or others like them appear in a news release.

  • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

    Does anyone on here know how to get in touch with the idahopicker? I have some important info regarding the sinkhole.