Published: June 12th, 2011 at 1:12 pm ET
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Strontium found in groundwater near stricken Fukushima plant, DPA, June 12, 2011:
Radioactive contamination from the stricken nuclear power facility Fukushima has worsened, the operators Tepco warned Sunday, with probes of groundwater turning up traces of strontium that were 240 times above the allowable maximum limit. [...]
The Kyodo news agency said it was the first discovery of strontium in the groundwater [...]
Tepco said that due to technical problems it could not yet start testing a new facility to decontaminate the tainted water.
Published: June 12th, 2011 at 1:12 pm ET
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I'll BITE and post to Gregory Thread though 
sending...
Let’s pour a big glass for each of Tepcos heads.
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Not of tea! “There won’t be any problem when people add water and drink the tea,”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304665904576380794019253496.html
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Might as well substitute the word “kool-aid” for “tea.”
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Strontium 90
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strontium-90
Half-life is 28.8 years. Roughly the same as cesium 137
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From Wikipedia:
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From Wikipedia:
Together with caesium isotopes 134Cs, 137Cs, and iodine isotope 131I it was among the most important isotopes regarding health impacts after the Chernobyl disaster.
“Strontium-90 is a “bone seeker” that exhibits biochemical behavior similar to calcium, the next lighter Group 2 element. After entering the organism, most often by ingestion with contaminated food or water, about 70–80% of the dose gets excreted. Virtually all remaining strontium-90 is deposited in bones and bone marrow, with the remaining 1% remaining in blood and soft tissues. Its presence in bones can cause bone cancer, cancer of nearby tissues, and leukemia. Exposure to 90Sr can be tested by a bioassay, most commonly by urinalysis.”
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It only affects people that aren’t happy.
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Yes, I think that we should offer that japanese rdiological safety officer Dr. Shunichi Yamashita a big old glass of that strontium water, so that he can show us how having the right attitude can ward off radiation poisoning.
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Yourbody mistakes it for calcium and takes it up and puts it in your bones, causing blood cancer and bone cancer. Japanese parents should be revolting in the streets over what is being promised to their children’s health.
Invest in opiates for easing the pain of those dying of cancer?
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Japanese parents should be revolting in the streets over what is being promised to their children’s health.
yes but they are not..
that involves effort and a cultural shift.
much better to believe the government and die in a discreet quite modest fashion sometime in the future.
where death can be logged as natural causes.
or death by hyper tension from a massive dose of negativity.patient was advised daily happy positive motivation medicine but kept relapsing into the doom and gloom.
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perhaps this is cultural evolution/cultural Darwinism in action – quietly accept your irradiated fate and die, never to reproduce again. I just thought that the Japanese cared too much about their culture to let it be killed off so passively. Perhaps if TEPCo were a foreign corporation they would object more strenuously, but being that it’s their own patriotic Japanese corporation, they accept it?
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Darwin Awards 2011: Special Award to Leaders of Honourable Nation of Japan.
Sick, Sick, Sick.
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no this is an example of greedy and impulsive people playing with fire, and destroying the planet in the process. Nulcear Boy is sick.
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EPA Radnet data for Denver yesterday was posted at 194 Beta. Phoenix beta today posted at 154. These are very high numbers!
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Can you give us a link majia?
Many thanks for that info!
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Here is the inquiry link for Phoenix. These data change over the day
https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet-public/queryResult.do
Here is the link for all the cities
https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet-public/monitorView.do
My understanding is that these data are not real time but they are changed twice daily.
However, whenever radiation levels spike the city in question no longer posts data and the message “under review” is posted instead.
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Yes, it seems whenever there is a spike anywhere, people tend to rush back to the equipment to check it thoroughly for any failures.
Then they have to compare it with other monitoring data in the area to see if there is a match.
Then, when they reach a certain level of confidence they post the figures.
Well, this is what happened with radiationnetwork.com.
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You can see really well on the JNN/TBS webcam #4 smoking:
http://radioactive.eu.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&layout=item&id=4&Itemid=193
I have a really large computer screen which helps a lot.
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Is that JNN link up to date and accurate?…it shows May 20th and also says 783 fuel rods…I think I figured a few more:
How many assemblies in the spent fuel rod ponds and how many rods are in those assemblies? From the Tepco PDF presentation November 16, 2010: http://www.nirs.org/reactorwatch/accidents/6-1_powerpoint.pdf
Spent Fuel Pond Fuel assemblies 3,450 at each of the six Units; Dry Cask 408 assemblies; 6291 assemblies at Common Spent Fuel Pond. Total: 10,149 Page 9
Sickputer: TEPCOs math was wrong for the totals of fuel assemblies on Page 9 in the PowerPoint! They only added ONE of the units for the Spent Fuel Ponds! The single unit value 3,450 times 6 units = 20,700!
Add to that the dry cask and common pool numbers and you get the true total: 27,399 Spent Fuel Assemblies!
27,399 times 63 rods= 1,726,137 individual fuel rods just in the storage ponds and dry cask!
Add the 176,904 fissile fuel rods in the Nuclear Reactor Vessels and you get the grand total:
1,903,041 fuel rods at Fukushima. That’s a lot of 12 foot nuclear rods any way you count them.
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Yup, you’re right. Lots of spent fuel rods, the gift that keeps on killing.
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Nuclear fission GROWS… chain reaction..unchecked..add decay and daughter products.
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Someone posted that there was an increase in the radiation levels in Japan today….several hours ago..something happened at Fukushima II..IMHO
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Enough Plutonium and Uranium to kill all life on the planet if it detonates, rises high enough and gets driven by the wind, and settles out even enough. And that is not fear mongering but a simple fact.
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Can’t see the smoking on TBS, but I can see it clearly on the TEPCO camera:
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/f1-np/camera/index-e.html
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A Weaponized World!
PLEASE VIEW THIS VIDEO, and pass the info on to your family & friends. Go to the websites listed and PUSH BACK, by signing the petitions.
We are in A WAR FOR OUR LIVES:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glNWJ2-c6Ts&feature=youtu.be
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I the Emperor of Extinction will preside over your bone marrows and assure infallibility in forbidding the propagation of life. The time is come for 4 billion humans to leave this world….
and several billion fish annually. The primeordial soup will now contain plutonium, neptunium, Americium, Strontium..and new nuclear reactors in Jaitapur(French), Kudankulam(Russisch), and other death dealers.. Ha Ha Ha ha Ha
I am happy go lucky Fukushimas of mutilations the silence for 4.32 billion years and then new life forms each reactor of ten billion curies and many more in the spent fuels.. into the ocean to bioreconcentrate. Stop it Stop it all before well its late too late its my victory forever. The End.
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I second the motion.
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Yes, I did hear a rumour that radiation is bad for you.
This could be conspiracy theory though, so not to be taken seriously, except by earless bunnies.
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Seriously, it is getting weird out there. We all grew up hearing that radiation was very dangerous and now all of the sudden, most of the people I know act like you are a conspiracy nut if you believe there is any problem with a little gamma ray soup in our air. What is with people?
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Well they thought Einstein was nuts too, for this:
What he discovered, is that as you approach the speed of light, time slows down and distances tend to shorten, relative to the outside observer. However, to you riding on the beam of light without an outside reference point, you wouldn’t notice a thing.
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The truth, like earless bunnies, can appear outlandish at first sight.
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Exactly. I’m not talking to anyone else about it other than may family. I tried to inform people, and they just don’t want to know, so I’m done. It appears that ignorance really is bliss for a lot of people. Good luck to them.
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I never realized until this crisis struck how powerful a thing denial is for many people. I’m amazed.
I’m also highly aware that denial is not an effective protection against radioactive contamiantion.
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People are stupid, generaly speaking…
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Rise of the Sheeple
A sheep faced with his own demise, is a danger to the wolf pack.
The wolves will not face him down, they will try to distract him.
The wolves will attack when when the sheep is distracted.
The sheep will turn and face the wolf, if he can.
The sheep will have the courage, he has nothing to lose.
The wolves are cowards, they have everything to lose.
There are always more sheep than wolves.
To the “individuals” “in charge” of this planet:
How long till you get it?
How long till you realize that the facade has fallen down?
How long till the sheeple throw off thier wool and become wolves?
How long till the masses realize thier fate and become one?
How long till the orders to shoot thy fellow man, woman, child?
How long till the orders are not followed thru?
How long till the front line turns around to shoot?
How long till you realize your fate?
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At this rate.. the sheeple will not realize their fate and die grazing.
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No one will survive this if it is a real ELE. Extinction means they ALL died…..
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They might as well be mindless, brain-dead, zombies. They are hopeless. They are already gone, the walking dead irregardless and independent of Fukushima, IMO. They actually don’t comprehend what is happening and that is really grim, especially when dealing with loved ones.
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Those that are aware..the numbers against the numbers that are to affected.
Miniscule..
We have to take care of each other.
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Reality is what you make it to be, higher awerness, is a constant batle, where your mind is the “thunderdome” the field of the strugle.
Choice and free wil the only wepond that we have, the only thing that separates us from the animals and the plants.
We are a solitude race, with almoust no freinds left, and right now the final nail, hammerd down, by greed and coruption.
The wolf you feed:
Legend has it that one evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people. He said, “My son, the battle is between two wolves inside us all.
One is Evil. It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.
The other is Good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.”
The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: “Which wolf wins?” The old Cherokee replied, “The one you feed.”
amen to that.
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It was just a matter of time before it was found !
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Was it James2—that went on about contaminated groundwater being off topic?
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Funny, he didn’t bug me about the racoon sightings.
Perhaps he agrees that a living racoon running around in a 3-reactor coredown event may serve as a key indicator of radiation levels.
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It is a tough liitle animal, but who knows how it has survived. If they were smart they would have live trapped the critter and do a whole body scan to see why she is so perky and the humans are conking out. Maybe she senses radioactive chunks and avoids them. I saw a huge bird on the railing last week by the walkway and it looked stunned. Later it was gone.
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Wild boars in Russia are famed at running around with huge levels of Chernobyl radiactivity in the body. But they don’t serve as the best representative for an 80-year human life span. The hot particles turn into DNA destruction over a slow period of time…it’s the best defense possible as who (other than downwinders and nuclear plant refugees) can really explain/prove why they got cancer and died? And few have believed most cancer patients anyway after Chernobyl. Doc to patient: “You just got it from something Mary…sorry about the tumor in your pancreas.”
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Actually, a very good idea.
Well done!
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The analogy of the canary in the coal mine versus the raccoon at the three core meltdown. I like it.
Question:
Is all of that vegetation in the foreground seen in the live cam feed serving as the “lettuce in the microwave?”…same analogy.
Is anyone testing this “ground zero” vegetation to know how high radiation levels in plants can be? Are they even still alive? Were these plants replaced with fake ones to add some color to the live camera shot? These plants look amazingly healthy, which is why I ask.
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I think they do mess with the color.
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” Withered crowns, underdeveloped or misshapen leaves and unusual growth patterns such as gigantism — excessive height and over-rapid growth — characterize plants exposed to intermediate doses of gamma rays. When doses are sufficient to kill many of the existing plants, subsequent recovery may be slow.
Read more: The Effects of Gamma Radiation on Plants | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_7549339_effects-gamma-radiation-plants.html#ixzz1P5dkgpms“
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The thing about Wild boars in Russia is that they do not know how long they live and look to see if cancers killed them dieing in the woods as they do. (believe I read an article) I suppose the have been doing exams on some to see what they can find out about them.
The Raccoon off spring may show signs (deforms/dead births) before he/she would most likely !
The radiations seems it would cook the insides for the Raccoon but we will just have to wait and see if we spot it again !
Here is the video if you missed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_FU8NGhzkdc
Keep in mind, what ever he eats there has to be contaminated also !
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They are most likely too busy to check on the weeds….
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Radioactive Boars And Mushrooms In Europe Are Grim Reminder Of Chernobyl Nuclear Disaster
By JUERGEN BAETZ 04/ 1/11
BERLIN — For a look at just how long radioactivity can hang around, consider Germany’s wild boars.
A quarter century after the Chernobyl nuclear disaster in the Soviet Union carried a cloud of radiation across Europe, these animals are radioactive enough that people are urged not to eat them. And the mushrooms the pigs dine on aren’t fit for consumption either.
Germany’s experience shows what could await Japan – if the problems at the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant get any worse.
The German boars roam in forests…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/01/radioactive-boars-mushrooms-chernobyl_n_843498.html
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Thanks charlie3 for that link and info for irradiated plants.
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Let’s see how long it lives..
radiation poisoning can be painfully slow.
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I don’t feel much like puking to death…I really don’t.
http://nwotruth.com/radiation-disease-here-are-the-symptoms-and-causes/
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Thanks for that info Heart. Very graphic but necessary.
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My sister developed thyroid cancer (almost always caused by radiation exposure) when she was 30 years old. We grew up on a farm in the central mid-west in the late 50′s/60′s and drank milk almost immediately after it was taken from the cow. So, we were very vulnerable to radioactive iodine. After her cancer was ‘cured’ my sister did some investigating and found out that the county we grew up in had become a radioactive hot spot when she was about 6 months old. This happened because an atomic surface weapon test fallout cloud had gotten entrained by a cold front and the resulting rain concentrated the radiation in our county. Perhaps, her cancer had another source, but radioactive milk consumed as a child is the most likely cause. My sister never had any radiation exposure, including medical x-rays, until she developed this cancer. My point in telling this story is that it illustrates that there can be a VERY LONG time lag between one’s radiation exposure and the resulting adverse health consequences. Sadly, this plays into the hands of those who deny said consequences. This is especially true in a mostly scientifically illiterate society with a 15 min. attention span.
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Thanks for sharing.
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What does effect does radiation have on a camera lense?
http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/f1-np/camera/index-j.html
I’ve never seen this web cam look grainy. It’s always crystal clear. Strange.
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GOOGLE WAS NO HELP…BUT CAME UP WITH THIS TALKING ABOUT LOOK OF THE REACTORS ECT
http://tinyurl.com/3t924el
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I see. the scientific go around..
Yes it does.
Hot particles, neutron flashes and “waves “of radiation are visible.
Steam/fog is visible by watching the pixel motion/.
Today it looks fuzzy.generalized..this also makes me believe that something serious is goin on at Fukushima II.
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ok, it’s 4:40 am there and the light in that cam looks like it’s 11 am.
What gives?
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Morning in Japan…even if the fog is natural ..it would be laced with radiation…..
I don’t think it’s natural.
http://www.earthcam.com/japan/tokyo/
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re: Effect of radiation on cameras?
My oldest son sent me these links:
http://www.quora.com/Science/Is-the-fog-in-pictures-taken-from-inside-the-Fukushima-nuclear-plant-due-to-radioactivity
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20070022613_2007020718.pdf
http://radhome.gsfc.nasa.gov/radhome/papers/CCD_Lessons_Learned.pdf
http://www.jlab.org/accel/beam_diag/viewer/REDW2002RadiationTolerantVideoCamera.pdf
In the night cam, I’m guessing the sparks of light we see might be “peppering,” but not sure. I think the “peppering” pics are on page 15 of the third link.
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Hi people, been watching and reading right from the start of this crap and only joined today because I have noticed that according to sat image’s sometimes clouds seem to be moving in a different direction than tepco cam suggests? Anyway, I’m no expert. Take care.
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Toadmac
Welcome, your voice is as good as anyones here ! We need all perspectives !
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sarcasm
The only people who need to worry about this is those who are grumpy and weak spirited so instead of worrying get happy and you have nothing to fear from the toxic and radioactive substances
/sarcasm
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If again one of the sheeples around me DARES to shrug their shoulders when I bring the topic “Fuku” up, I want to
S-L-A-P
T-H-E-M
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H-A-R-D
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on the B-U-T-T
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I want to knock a few heads..too.
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What scares/angers me more than all else is the thought of what it will actually take for the general public to become outraged enough to get off their collective backsides and put an end to nuclear power. If Fukushima hasn’t (yet) awoken the masses … yikes! :-O
Anyone know of any demonstrations in WA state, demanding that the plant there be closed? We’re pretty far away, but I’m sure my hubby would take a day off, and we could bring the family on up there, if there was a serious effort taking place. Please let me know if anyone hears about any such opportunities!
Erin (going back to mom-mode for the day
back tomorrow)
“We’ll be fighting in the streets,
With our children at our feet,
And the morals that they worship will be gone …”
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Thanks charlie3:
Luckily I’m not getting any misshapen leaves, but things seem to be growing fast and big so far.
I’m on Vancouver Island, Canada, and most of the NILU maps showed everything coming straight at us.
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charlie3
June 12, 2011 at 3:02 pm
” Withered crowns, underdeveloped or misshapen leaves and unusual growth patterns such as gigantism — excessive height and over-rapid growth — characterize plants exposed to intermediate doses of gamma rays. When doses are sufficient to kill many of the existing plants, subsequent recovery may be slow.
Read more: The Effects of Gamma Radiation on Plants | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_7549339_effects-gamma-radiation-plants.html#ixzz1P5dkgpms“
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They used to sell radioactive cesium as fertilizer in the 50s because of how large it made your produce grom *groan*.
Vancouver island is getting plastered, to judge by all the (now removed and gone) meteorological fallout forecasts on the web.
The jetstream just keeps pulling the poison over the pacific – here’s a youtube video from the Norwegian nilu people from some time ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wJninXiYIM&feature=player_embedded
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another, maybe better, but slower projetion of radioactive disperal across the Pacific:
http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=us&VAR=eurad5000
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The University of maryland’s projections:
http://www.atmos.umd.edu/~tcanty/hysplit/
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Affect of Gamma Radiation on Plants
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S003375606280091X
and, how plants are able to heal themselves:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-313X.2003.01738.x/full
General tutorial on alpha, beta, gamma rays:
http://www.darvill.clara.net/nucrad/types.htm
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Yeah,…it’s when the lung FINALLY comes out too,…that you’re REALLY feelin’ it!
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By the way, if anyone is game, here are some instructions on how to fix a BWR reactor in coredown:
Identification and Assessment of BWR In-Vessel Severe Accident Mitigation Strategies
http://www.ornl.gov/info/reports/1992/3445603689514.pdf
It’s (probably purposely) not searchable or Google-able, but, for the intrepid, you might try OCR and then clean up the text.
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Charlie3 the slower dispersal rate is just higher up…level 16 (5000m) versus level 1 (ground level)
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The faster rate at ground level puzzles me a bit…I thought it was the Jetstream that goes really fast?
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Forced expulsion.
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Or they got the figures mixed up on the weather online site…
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In case anyone didn’t know, the NILU hid the fallout forecasts under the code-name Zardoz:
http://zardoz.nilu.no/~flexpart/fpinteractive/plots/?C=M;O=D
There don’t appear to be any current ones, but I did not check them all. Zardoz is, not coincidentally, a B-Sci Fi movie from the 70′s about a post-nuclear-apocalypse US. Unbelievable.
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Ya..Zardoz…ya…..
Sends me right into flip out.
Creeps…..
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Did we ever establish if those figures were real, or just worst-case scenarios?
You meant “not uncoincidentally” – even though uncoincidentally is not a real word (a neologism: a made-up word).
That is, Zardoz is indeed a B Sci Fi movie depicting an end-of-world type scenario.
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http://www.zardoz.com
anyone tried doing this?
then i had a mosy about and got this
“The business market is also known as the a. organizational market. b. corporate … Zardoz divides its customers into the following categories: small …. The General Services Administration (GSA) of the U.S. federal government a. buys …
http://www.scribd.com/doc/53183691/pomtest6 – Bufret”
call me paranoid, call me tired but dont call me to early in the morning!!
but a quick reply would be cool
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EURAD: “The observational data of the CTBTO now show a clear decrease of the worldwide radioactive concentrations outside of Japan. Therefore we now do not continue with the predictions for the northern hemisphere.”
Darn, they stopped doing predictions just when the pink bit hit Europe!
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…meaning: the brown bits have been hitting the fan for sometime.
(excuse the scatological reference)
and the big word! (learnt it in Poli Sci 100).
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Strontium in the sea too.
Radioactive strontium up to 240 times the legal concentration limit has been detected in seawater samples collected near an intake at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Sunday.
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110613a1.html
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