Study: Fuel damage not ‘major’ at Fukushima Reactors No. 5 and 6 — Emissions from cores and spent fuel pools not ‘large’

Published: March 2nd, 2012 at 4:51 pm ET


Title: Xenon-133 and caesium-137 releases into the atmosphere from the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant: determination of the source term, atmospheric dispersion, and deposition
Source: Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics; Atmos. Chem. Phys., 12, 2313–2343, 2012 doi:10.5194/acp-12-2313-2012
Authors: A. Stohl1, P. Seibert2, G. Wotawa3, D. Arnold2,4, J. F. Burkhart1, S. Eckhardt1, C. Tapia5, A. Vargas4, and T. J. Yasunari6
1 NILU – Norwegian Institute for Air Research, Kjeller, Norway
2 Institute of Meteorology, University of Natural Resources and Life Sciences, Vienna, Austria
3 Central Institute for Meteorology and Geodynamics, Vienna, Austria
4 Institute of Energy Technologies (INTE), Technical University of Catalonia (UPC), Barcelona, Spain
5 Department of Physics and Nucelar Engineering (FEN),Technical University of Catalonia (UPC), Barcelona, Spain
6 Universities Space Research Association, Goddard Earth Sciences and Technology and Research, Columbia, MD 21044, USA
Date: Received: 8 October 2011 – Published in Atmos. Chem. Phys. Discuss.: 20 October 2011
Revised: 1 February 2012 – Accepted: 23 February 2012 – Published: 1 March 2012

[…] Fortunately, due to the maintenance outage and the survival of one diesel generator, it seems that unit 5 and 6 reactor cores as well as spent fuel ponds have not suffered major fuel damage and did not produce large emissions. Therefore, they are not included in the further considerations. […]

Read the report here

See also:

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Published: March 2nd, 2012 at 4:51 pm ET


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94 comments to Study: Fuel damage not ‘major’ at Fukushima Reactors No. 5 and 6 — Emissions from cores and spent fuel pools not ‘large’

  • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

    Emissions not 'large'…. uh huh, I agree, they were tiny, tiny, tiny particles of very HOT nuclear radiation, amounting to MASSIVE amounts of life destroying stuff.

    Fuel damage not 'major'… uh huh, I agree, No armed military was present as the fuel rods melted down, especially not Majors, or Generals, or Commandants.

    Oh, it is so nice to have a bit of fresh air and truth telling for a change.. Thank GOOOODDDDD for this news.. Now I know who to trust and listen to…


    • truthseek truthseek

      Levity in a moment of reality dosing… Chortle, thx AGR.

    • I'm assuming this is similar to "cold shutdown".

      Looks to me like people-acting-like-adults-and-being-honest-to-one- another is in cold shutdown – while the reactors rage away.

      Anyone know the real state of 5 & 6?

  • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

    What was the Total Amount Of Fukushima Radiation Released Into Ocean, Air, Groundwater, Storage Tanks, etc?;postID=3685886173073543613

    This is what scientists should be working on, rather than minimizing what happened and justifying how little radiation was released with bafflegab.

    • truthseek truthseek

      -mirrored AGR- (my worst fears) they are resigned to the dire nature
      of this and that there this .nothing. that can be done…
      "that it really does not *matter* : / "

      The scientific community will hopefully eventually evolve in their roles
      of lending to the direction of awareness, not deflection of truth
      and actual scope of this epic tragedy. Like politicians…

      Start coming up with solutions (if there are any… at this point)
      of "containment" and ways of minimizing the
      unfolding scope of this.

      Not roles of "scientific obfuscation"

  • radegan

    I think this is the first admission of 'fuel damage' for those reactors.

    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      No go above after "Read the Report Here" and "See Also" They have had problems from the beginning at Daini.

      • Kevin Kevin

        Good point moonshell.

        All the toing and froin, whose on first whats emmiting from second at the Daichi compound, has taken all focus away from the fact that only two of the 54 reactors still operate.

        The rest are ummmmmmm, closed for maintenance, yah thats it.

        Now they admit 5 and 6 have fuel damage? what the?!!!

        Fuel damage, oh right, fukushima speak for melt down, but dont worry those ones did not blow up so everythings groovy.

        So at 5 and 6 they stopped the meltdown eh?

        Wheres that core through the floor book again, from yesterdays posts, that clearly spells out exactly what happens? And the little discussed fact that there is little they can do?

        This problem could be even beyond what our little community understands it to be, and completely out of the stratosphere of the official story.

        • Help Me Kevin by spelling out what you are thinking…

          It has been a long week and I'm exhausted.

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            Hi Majia,

            I noticed Kevin didn't respond to your post. 'Think this is the article he was referring to (NRC report):


            BTW, did you read the NRC info. obtained under the FOIA re: "tell them to stop it" in regard to independent labs wanting to test for Fukushima radiation?

            IMHO, huge news. Please report on this if you haven't already done so! Appreciate your fine work.

            • Kevin Kevin

              I am not on the site all the time, therefor I sometimes may not respond in a timely manner or at all as the numerous boards are too difficult to stay abreast of without devoting your entire day to the task.

              That said, what I am saying here Majia is that Daichi may simply be a "limited hangout" that has obscured our understanding of a crisis across the whole of the industry in Japan as a result of the EQ.

              I could go into great detail about this, with respect to all the various tips and things that could leave one to believe this potential. But I know you are bright and understand what I am saying.

              A lot of people are shocked at how Japan, TEPCO and related agencies are handling this. Shocked by the lies and coverup but they could well be just the surface of a far more severe and far reaching situation.

              • Bobby1

                There is some evidence for 5 and 6 having melted down. One of the recent articles about atmospheric dispersion from Fuku mentioned the entire inventory of Xenon-133 was released in the first 5 days, based on their measurements. But Tepco has said there has been Xenon-133 detected from reactor #2 several times since then. Where did the extra Xe-133 come from?

                • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                  @Bobby1…I do not recall the exacting distance between 1-4 and 5 and 6 moment.but there no way..NO way..that reactors 5 and 6..were not damaged in the earthquake..or affected by the tsunami.
                  There is no way the area ..did not have the same geological changes occur..
                  ..and I'll stick my neck out and add..that these geological changes have occured to some distance to include areas surrounding Daini and Tokai.. to the north as well…

                • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                  PS..let me fix typo..there is no way that 5 and 6…were not affected..
                  Why would the cooling system work any better at 5 and 6?

                • Bobby1

                  Supposedly, one diesel generator was not wiped out by the tsunami, and they used it to cool 5 and 6. But yeah, 5, 6, and Daini were in the same boat as Daiichi 1-4. Tokai also may have been affected. Take your pick. There's at least one more meltdown they haven't told us about, I think.

                • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                  I think they had meltdowns similar to 2…

                • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                  Tokai has been in trouble from the beginning ..I think..
                  "Tokyo Electric shut seven reactors at its Fukushima Daiichi and Daini atomic plants, the trade ministry’s Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said in the e-mailed statement. Japan Atomic Power shut the No. 2 reactor at its Tokai plant, the agency said."

                • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                  ..and something about a burning ceiling..

  • skizexq skizexq

    AGreen, wasn't it 40 trillion becq?
    Or was that just one of the cores?

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Just a wee bit..a tiny smudge of the collar…

    • Kevin Kevin

      Nuck absolutely rocks…

      Wonder if he/she lays down their own audio tracks to this stuff?

      Truly awesome and effective tunage.

    • CB CB

      A compliment your post is today's Breaking on Fukushima Diary. Reactor buildings are hidden by thick smoke. Starting at 1min. 46sec. Looks to come from general direction that 5&6 would be.

      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        Here is another example…of emissions from 5 and 6..

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          My jaw dropped when I saw that. It's the first time I've seen it happen from the time the emissions started. Clearly not rain or fog! So my apologies to you, James2 &/or Nuckelchen, if I said anything that sounded like I doubted your opinion. 'Just thought yesterday since it was raining, some of the foggy looking stuff might be due to rain. I guess that was too much to hope for ….

          Wow, that's REALLY ugly. Too bad it was night time video. It looked like black or very, very dense smoke.

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            Just noticed video is ? from 7/29/11. Really ugly, regardless! Just affirms more & more there have been violent explosions, fires, etc. ongoing for months and months. May God help and protect the poor souls who are working there to try and get the situation under control, build and maintain structures, etc.

        • truthseek truthseek

          That is scary, while I will make no attempts to state what it is… I will say what I feel IT IS NOT… FOG. *it* is so dense that limits or obstructs all ambient light in the area. Fog would be diffusive and tend to scatter light, *this* appeared dark, dense and absorptive (of all light).

          Any extraneous noise, (corresponding to darkening image field) changes in the image, appears as the camera image sensor gain increases… not likely gamma or spuriae in the area.

    • ItsJustMetal ItsJustMetal

      WATCH THAT VID!!! Am I misunderstanding whats happening, or is that black smoke coming from 5 and 6??? When it gets to the camera there's a bunch of interferance just like when they put the camera in the reactor!!!

    • ItsJustMetal ItsJustMetal

      WATCH THIS VIDEO!!! Am I misunderstanding whats happening, or is that black smoke coming from 5 and 6??? When it gets to the camera there's a bunch of interferance just like when they put the camera in the reactor!!!

      • ItsJustMetal ItsJustMetal

        ADMIN!!! You gotta watch this video!!! There's only 141 views and its the scariest video of the reactors Ive ever seen!!! Watch the whole thing!!!

        • Kevin Kevin

          this issue as the one posts says, is whether or not this is fog.

          It is awfully dense for fog but, something tells me it cant be what we are potentially thinking it is.

          But, damn it sure is some think and dark fog.

          I live on the coast of a pacific Island, and I have seen some thick fog, but damn that is some thick fog!

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            I, too, have lived in areas where there is fog for years and years. If there is the tiniest bit of light, the fog will light up and appear silvery, gray, or white. IMHO it DEFINITELY isn't fog!

            Plutoniated smoke? Black and nasty looking, just like when #3 Fuku Daichi blew up.

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              I meant the fog will light up and reflect light, even at night. There is clearly some source of illumination in the video, and the smoke completely obliterates the image of the buildings, and the light source.

              Guess we'll have to see what's revealed in daylight. Man, that is some scarey looking drek! Like a very bad acid trip, as they used to say in the 60's and 70's!

        • Whoopie Whoopie

          Hey IJM, I'll post to HP. Thanks!

          • ItsJustMetal ItsJustMetal

            Howdy! It was Heart of a Roses's post though. Did u see the static though? I saw little white beams of light shooting around

        • Nigwil

          Steady lads! The camera is 20km away from Fuku, and what you're seeing is low cloud on the intervening ridge. Much closer to camera than anything from 5 or 6, IMHO.

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            With all due respect, Nigwil, the steam/smoke comes from behind the buildings at first. Why due you think it's low clouds? Would you please elaborate? I do so hope you are right!

          • CB CB

            Nigwil, I see what your saying, but disagree. See all related videos, and reply.

          • Fall out man!

            I thought the camera was located 2.5km from the plant? Or am I mixing up my cameras. But the camera did give a variety of flashing colors when things totally blacked out. I wasn't sure though that those were radiation type flashes so much as brightness adjustment. I know people have analyzed the difference here before complete with examples for those who care to search.

        • StillJill StillJill

          TRULY blood curdling!

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    "Untreatable" form of gonorrhea resistant to antibiotics emerges in Japan”

  • jec jec

    Reactors 5 and 6–hey aren't those the reactors whose smoke and "clouds" have to be covered up on TEPCO webcam? The location south of Fukushima 1 where TEPCO puts up bright lights facing the cameras so night activities at 5 & 6 can't be seen? And isn't this the same nuclear plant which had lots of firetrucks and buses of workers streaming in ==captured by our Nuckelchen –until the webcam was turned off again..

    Sure everything is JUST FINE. You can trust TEPCO and the government. And now I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale…..

  • Whoopie Whoopie


    • Whoopie Whoopie

      1 of mine: "We will not tolerate suppression of our truths, our ideas, our freedoms, or our feelings. We support others in the expression of truths and freedom to speak out… no matter how far away those ideas may seem today. Standing against Nuclear takes courage; together we shall be strong in the face of all odds.
      Nuclear Nostalgia isn't what it used to be. Change is inevitable.
      It is coming to a Nuclear Powered neighborhood near you SOON.


        @Whoopie: BTW. I noticed someone posted a comment that trivialized the significance of the blue water being found in Minamisoma. The following morning, it was gone. Now, I'm not one for censorship, but in truth, I was actually glad that admin deleted it. I'm also glad that people out here are shrewd enough to spot nefarious posts. However reported it to admin did the right thing. I don't agree with some of what's put out here at times, but I sure as hell don't care for those who think they can make light of this tragedy…

        • Whoopie Whoopie

          I understand. What's funny is THESE GUYS HAVE BEEN MIA but a Personal Post with "FEELINGS" DREW THEM OUT?!?! Maslin called it "disgusting". I just cant let that go. Mod is holding 4 of mine back.


            @Whoopie: from what I've seen there, the best they can do is challenge assertions. They've every right to do so. What they're having problems with is the thunderous downfall of story-links that you and others are posting. I'm laughing at their panic. In a few years, they'll be about as bold as a lone member of the clan in downtown Los Angeles. Nice job lady!

        • SnorkY2K

          I noticed that my posts were gone. I do not believe that I trivialized it as I have actual experience purifying water in an operation with radioactive materials. My statement was that it was possible that it was an algae that got into the water system after the earthquake/tsunami and that the algae (many of which glow the same color as some of the nuclear waste that I have worked with) could produce the glow or could be excited by radiation in the water. Very few radionuclides could produce the cherenkov phenomena unless a reaction was taking place. Other radionuclides produce light only in the presence of a phosphor. Before we claim that the water glows in fukushima because of radiation, we should lay out all reasonable possibilities and investigate because if we are wrong the criminals will claim that we are crying wolf and will never let us get support to address the issues.

          Tritium in quantities to produce that much light without a phosphor would probably be deadly as would other radionuclides. I would not make light of that. Deuterium in water is almost as deadly as it interferes with a cell's ability to divide but is not "hot".

          • Whoopie Whoopie

            SnorkY2K you didn't mean here did you? Or Fluffington P.?
            If it's HP many many comments never appear. CENSORSHIP.
            HERE most all do. Nice to meet you btw.

  • Kevin Kevin

    Awesome language they use eh?

    Fortunately, due to the maintenance outage and the survival of one diesel generator, it seems that unit 5 and 6 reactor cores as well as spent fuel ponds have not suffered major fuel damage and did not produce large emissions. Therefore, they are not included in the further considerations.

    Nothing but good news that totally shut down non functioning reactors cannot withstand a power outage and the fuel is damaged.

    Totally fortunate!

  • Add a hundred times to whatever they say !

    • jec jec

      Well..just was looking at the tepco webcam and saw Fuku2 clouds..and flashes..made comment on ENENEWS..and poof..the clouds are gone…I think..its not good..the clouds were dark..with flashes inside and at the ground..right where you see F2 in the tepco webcam..far back on the right side..just where that $%$%$% blurred line goes thru..but can see..and below..see the lighted flashes..not good for the home team guys and gals..but hey..minor..right?

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      And maybe 100 zeroes to any numbers they produce ….

    • eatliesndie eatliesndie

      HEY!!!!! were all the workers over at 5&6 on the weekend? maybe not having a break?

  • lam335 lam335

    Did we even hear about problems occurring at #5 and #6 last spring? Didn't the media make it sound like those units were okay? (I don't know how ENE.NEWS covered it b/c I hadn't discovered it yet, alas …).

    • Kevin Kevin

      I think at times it came up here, going by memory, that all is not well, but at no time was "fuel damage" reported.

      Hats off to admin the last few days.

      Clearly his/her legal mind has been busy digging up nuggets.

      Fantastic work!

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    Oh God here I go again…anyone want to discuss anything can do so here: For me? Only a short time.

  • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno

    We now know for a FACT, two things from the above headline about R5 and R6:
    1) ENENEWS admin is CIA or this is a CIA Site, even if most of us participating are not CIA (= disinformation, aside from international terrorism and false flags, disinformation domestic style is U.S. CIA (MI5 in U.K.) job #1) and…
    2) There is definitely serious damage to fuel in both R5 and R6.

    • Why do you think CIA Pallas?

      I'm slow tonight–exhausting week–and I don't get your logic?

      Please explain

      • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno

        Dear Majia; Only in the United States do people ask that question–mainly. The CIA's number one domestic role is information management–LYING to everyone or at least to the 99.99% who aren't billionaires. People from nations of the global south know what the CIA is for. It's only we Americans who are at first, just a little shocked and then, just dismiss, the entire idea of that an organization like the CIA exists to massage information and cause international terrorism for the goals of the already wealthiest. Never mind that 85% of the framing/content of all our media from (yes, DemocracyNow!) to CNN and GE owned MSNBC/NBC to Faux News (Fox) is the same framing and social construction to maintain a revolution free status quo against the better interests of the people as we suffer from irradiation from Fukushima, from anthropogenic thermal maximum and from related mass extinctions. Please at least study Chomsky's, Manufacturing Consent. Things are far worse than during the 1980s! Near monopoly ownership in corporatist states–only 5 corporations own all English language–means MSM media is absolutely censored. People from outside the U.S. and other economic center states don't wonder whether or not our "news" is even news or merely propaganda noise; they know that it's CIA generated noise to distract, dumb down and to control the masses, which U.S. masses hardly need to be encouraged to act in a docile/fascist manner considering our pathetic history and culture of kissing the asses of the wealthiest right back to the times of the Puritans and other earliest settlers in the formation of the original 13 Colonies. Study up on the Nathanial Bacon Rebellion of 1765. However, before that read up on the actual history of Jamestown. Of course, it's the wealthiest at the top of the system who are at fault; but as has ever since been,we never appropriately target they or credit their institutional methods of manipulation. Elephants in living room!

        • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno

          Who are some characters from the beginning in the U.S. you could analyze to see history repeating itself but with much more interesting and valuable, for lying, toys (technologies) in the present synchrony? Study Silas Deane and his "friend" Dr. Edward Bancroft. Americans and others who are bourgeois and uninformed about the level of crime found in our covert, military and wealthiest NG organizations, need study these things throughout history more closely. Why? Because as it stands now, ENE is being managed and quite effectively against most of this blog's participant's actual goals despite the blind faith of maybe most visitors and participants here. Our goals, I believe I'm not putting words in people's mouths now, are of bringing greater transparency to these matters of immediate importance on probably more than 20 nuclear reactors melted down. How could it be if we were getting any real information that we wouldn't know more than we do by now? It's not for lack of trying on any of our parts.

    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      Don't think so.

    • Kevin Kevin

      So here are some facts.

      The internet is a military tool, spoon fed to the people of the world. WWW is the World wide wiretap. It represents in military terms the single largest and most effective intelligence gathering tool known to man. When one uses the frog in boiling water analogy, it is quuite obvious the entire internet is that. It is a very slow process to users, however in military terms it has not even been two decades and they now have intelligence capacity people twenty years ago could only dream of in their wildest dreams.

      Is ENENEWS a "HARD-Core Catcher," a dragnet for those who have ventured off the reserve unconvinced by the offical fairy tale? IT could be, in fact in many ways that is exactly what it is regardless of the affiliations and intent of the site owner/administrator.

      This news, of 5 and 6 comes as surprise to many, even here. Well, imagine the surprise if we learn that say 25 reactors were hugely impacted and damaged by the EQ. That would be a real bomb would it not? Even though estimating that half of them would be impacted such a disaster is hardly a stretch. If you take yourself back to the time before the EQ and you heard that Japan and its 54 reactors was hammered by an EQ of this magnitude, would all your focus be on one of the 54? One of the very oldest whose infrastructure outwardly blew and coverup was impossible to undertake?

      The point I am making, is that Fox Mulder was right, trust no one, do your own research. The internet has no truth hidden in any corner of it, does not have the last word anywhere no matter what search engine you use and is not a tool of the people.

      It is in fact a tool of the military establishment, just like everything else, and the war has never ceased since the time of world war one, its only gotten a whole lot harder to fully grasp and the difference between civilian and service person barely distinguishable.

      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        @ Kevin..Enenews..hard core catcher..?
        Oh ..well..they will fulfill their chosen destiny ..and I mine.
        …but the children of Fukushima do not reserve theirs ….
        I said so…

        • Kevin Kevin

          I was responding to the OP and his/her assertion that ENENEWS is a CIA site. It is implied by saying so that the purpose would be to collect and identify dissent and insurgency, or that ENENEWS is a "hard core catcher" which is simply a play on the term "core catcher" bantied around on these pages.

      • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno

        Dear Kevin: I agree very much with your first paragraph. "25" heavily effected nuclear reactors, probably all at least partially melted down or through after the 311 Tohoku quake or from previous quakes (2007 Kashiwazaki Kariwa) doesn't at all sound unreasonable. I think you're spot on there, as well. Furthermore, definitely, I re-assert that ENE is CIA and is about containing the matter within limits the power elite and nuke establishment arrogantly, as traitors most criminal and murderous (themselves of course) to delimit. Notice the little bit of backtracking on abridging the reach of individual participants at this blog with the structure of participant comment on individual stories column on the right since a couple days before. I remember in the beginning, the snippets of our commentary for each head was about double that. We were made calm and docile about that abridgment quick enough.

        • Kevin Kevin

          Personally I cannot read to much into the changes you refer to with respect to the right column captions of participant comments.

          That said, I do stand by comments above and understand that the concern with respect to purpose, affiliation and intent of this site is valid.

          • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno

            Kevin manipulations are incremental. I've been analyzing these sorts of things for decades. Read everything by Chomsky and Lakoff, at the very least to get an idea of the level of sophistication of information management. Lakoff is not as much analyzing media styles or targetting controlling organizations; but is quite clear and good on the science of such things, nonetheless. Also read, "Entertaining Ourselves to Death" by the late Neil Postman. Modern U.S. citizens are intensely naive, sand some bourgeois from other nations as we can see by Bread's comment, are increasingly naive about such realities. Often they believe that if they wouldn't do it, they can't imagine others being so manipulative, underhanded or cruel. This is irrelevent. Produce content that such as I describe is not the case.

            • ENENews

              Talk of ENENews being a CIA front will be limited to the discussion forum for nuclear issues.

              Regarding the latest accusation:

              "I remember in the beginning, the snippets of our commentary for each head was about double that"

              Interesting point considering I spent the last day reinstating the LATEST COMMENTS function after the major crash early in the week.

              Before there was only 1 line of the comment excerpted in the sidebar. Now there are 2 lines. So it is actually the complete opposite of what is claimed.

              This is the end of this discussion on this thread. As stated above, "Talk of ENENews being a CIA front will be limited to the discussion forum for nuclear issues." Further off-topic comments will result in moderation. I'll be back in a few hours to waste some more time reviewing comments.

              • Kevin Kevin

                Your defensive response is understandable.

                However claiming it is off topic is, in my opinion, not the case.

                What your post sheds light on is how information regarding what was communicated as intact reactors are not in fact intact. Which implies that infromation is being managed, a fact we all know, to what extent, is unclear.

                Therefor I think the topic is on topic and removing it or moderating comments and commenters works more against the administration of the site then for it.

          • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno

            Dear Kevin: I can't say the same thing about the faithfulness of the managers of this site. There is far too much, and oft repeated, evidence to the contrary.

            • Kevin Kevin

              I am familiar with the scholars to whom you refer, quite so in fact.

              I have worked in this business.

              Not sure what you mean by the "fatihfulness of site managers" I simply said that concern about this site content, purpose and intent is valid.

  • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno

    And do note, roomies, the change in the participant comment format in the right-hand column and the change in headline style. Very gradually and slowly, all participants are being slowly disempowered, as CIA usual, like frogs being slowly brought to radioactive boil in a pot at the bottom of a well.

    • nohobear nohobear

      Interesting theory. Might explain the recent down time of enenews. Still, if we're all going to be rounded up in the middle of the night and shipped off to a FEMA camp, at least all the Enenewser regulars will have good company of good people. In the meantime, let's continue to tell the truth about the nuclear death industry, and raise as much awareness as we can. Fight the good fight.

  • Sickputer

    Paranoia, self-destroyer. I have no way to prove or disprove your thesis, but if you're right…DO IT TO JULIA!!! (Sheesh I hate face-eating rats). >;->

    Hah…my best opposing factoid to your claim…I bet we would have more bandwith since they have Daddy Warbucks supporting the spooks. *;-)

    Take care…it was nice knowing you before you outed yourself as a freedom-loving patriot…now it's off for our vacation waterboarding in sun-splashed Cuba! (just kidding)

    Of course the spooks READ this forum…how else will they protect their own families and get the latest accurate news for their day job.

    But I doubt they RUN it. Write to me at sickputer @ if you want to converse privately.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Sickputer, no offense meant, but how can you write anything privately at a Google run site? Really! Nothing Googled is sacred, or should I say, it's "Scroogled" ? Goggling Google goobers gloating at Googled gleanings!

      I never "google" anything, and Google doesn't deserve to have browser searches and a new verb named after its miserable self!

      Google just unleashed its new privacy (ahem!) policy, and it certainly only deserves to be called "privacy" in " " 's. Hardly anything could be farther from the truth!

      Someone here suggested Hushmail and other more secure forms of communication yesterday. Hushmail, Mutemail, something alternative to GMail is probably a good idea.

      But then maybe you have already considered all of this ….

      Nonetheless thanks for the invite!

      • Sickputer

        No offense taken. I am not deluded enough to think there is any secure communications other than a note placed in a safe drop.

        Even at that better shield it with the hand of the overhead spy cam can read it from a drone or maybe now even from a satellite. I remember in 1972 the Air Force took an overhead photo that clearly showed Nixon walking off Air Force One in his historic trip to China. Optics are much better 40 years later.

        No email is secure…Big Brother always has the company's cooperation no matter the country.

        But I absolutely refuse to touch my toes during BB video exercises! >;->

    • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno

      Dear Sick: The U.S. has very controlled bandwith. Some of the lowest on the planet, and the very lowest in the Global North States (a socioeconomic designation).

  • Interesting, the trolls stopped at Huffpost, on March 1st the day of th google non-privacy rollout.

    and ENENEWS had numerous problems, same date and continuing.

  • W8R W8R

    Domain name: ENENEWS.COM

    Registrant Contact:
    Private Registrant ()

    164 N. Gateway Drive
    Providence, UT 84332

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    An ocean survey of the ocean in front of 5 and 6 water intakes. Jan 30 2012
    Just one small question… where are the fish?

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    The pipes of 5..(I don't know why just 5)..were found to have inadequate anti-quake strength…
    Jan.31 2012..