Study: Fukushima fallout detected in fish from Atlantic Ocean

Published: March 12th, 2013 at 11:44 am ET
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Title: Does the Fukushima NPP disaster affect the caesium activity of North Atlantic Ocean fish?
Source: Biogeosciences Discussions
Authors: G. Kanisch and M.-O. Aust; Thünen Institute of Fisheries Ecology, Hamburg, Germany
Date Published: March 5, 2013
h/t het

Fillet samples of marine fish collected from the East/West Greenland current (GC) and from the Baltic Sea (BS), have been investigated by gamma-ray spectrometry within the regular German monitoring program. In samples of the second half of 2011 134Cs traces have been detected, suggested to originate from the Fukushima fallout being deposited in March/April 2011 over the northern North Atlantic and accumulated by fish. The radionuclide 134Cs (half-live 2 yr) was indeed detected with quite small activities at about 0.0036 Bq kg−1 w.w. [...] Model results confirmed the level of 134Cs measured in BS fish and showed its maximum to have occurred in winter 2011/2012 followed by a continuous decrease. It was also determined that 134Cs activity, but not that of 134Cs, showed a significant negative correlation with sampling depth (150–400 m) of GC fish; this strengthens our Fukushima fallout assumption. [...]

[...] the aims of our study were (i) to determine the activity concentration of caesium isotopes in cod and redfish as economically relevant fish species 5 in the North Atlantic Ocean and its marginal seas, (ii) separate the FD-NPP input from that from Chernobyl and Global Fallout, and (iii) validate the determinations and estimate the future behaviour of caesium isotopes in fish of the Baltic Sea [...]

See also: Radio: Mysterious disease killing seals in Atlantic Ocean -- Fukushima fallout testing underway by gov't scientists (AUDIO)

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74 comments to Study: Fukushima fallout detected in fish from Atlantic Ocean

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Radiation in the Pacific ocean, and the Atlantic ocean, thanks to nuclear.


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  • Lion76 Lion76

    What explains the pre-2007 data shown? why so high back then?


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    • yogda yogda

      Lion76,

      Watch this when you have time. It will answer your question.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dnhds7Qlik


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    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      Because of Nuclear bomb testing and throwing waste into the Atlantic Ocean thus leaking barrels of nuclear waste. IMHO


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    • guezilla

      The answer is in the article summary, "(ii) separate the FD-NPP input from that from Chernobyl and Global Fallout". Also as the summary indicates, the graph is from Baltic Sea. So the high in the prior data is mainly from Chernobyl (82%), with some lingering effects from atmospheric nuclear tests (14%) and a little dab of releases carried over Danish Straits from nuclear fuel reproessing plants (4%) (Helsinki Convention on the Protection of the Marine Environment of the Baltic Sea Area 2011 data).

      Baltic Sea is not exactly best place to measure Fukushima fallout, that discussion paper uses it mostly just because of the decades long experience with Baltic Sea radiation environment and measuring. It should be all the more shocking that Fukushima fallout shows so clearly here against the Chernobyl background.


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    • Gnyf

      Hello Lion 76.
      I personally think this research isn't worth the paper it's printed on, and the video that Yogda refers to doesn't explain the levels of Cs134 in 2007. German research is normally very precise, but something doesn't add up here.
      There's no doubt that fish in the Atlantic is contaminated, and due to continous fallout, and bio-accumulation the levels will rise. Remember to take all the other types of radioactive isotopes into consideration as well, which this study doesn't do, though it would be the logical thing to do having acces to the equipment mentioned.
      This study is bollocks, and way better research is necessary.


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  • Thought I'd add these links to the mix (all of them by Professor Christopher Busby):

    The ECRR risk model: Radioactivity in the
    Baltic Sea and its effects on human health
    http://www.euradcom.org/images/riga2010/busby.pdf

    Chris Busby, Ditta Rietuma and the Radioactive Baltic Sea
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLoqQUpJcC4

    BST 2010. Health & Radionuclides in Baltic Sea. Pr Chris Busby
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShPFMqHiMhM


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  • hbjon hbjon

    How many submarines caught fire and sank out there in New England and Europes toilet bowl? Hard to believe it could be from Japan. But, in the fullness of time, it will happen. Does anyone else occasionally feel a little sting sensation, a bit more painful than an itch? I think I just got nailed by a fuel flea.


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    • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication

      @hbjon

      "Does anyone else occasionally feel a little sting sensation, a bit more painful than an itch? I think I just got nailed by a fuel flea."

      Yes! Started happening quite some time ago, but definitely after Fukushima. It's quite painful but momentary. Some days does not happen but others happens two or three times. I am almost always inside the house or car when it happens, not outside.


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    • hbjon hbjon

      I think to myself, "what is biting me?" Then I look and there is nothing there. Very strange indeed.


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  • Time Is Short Time Is Short

    From the Caldicott Symposium:

    Don't eat seafood, and don't eat mushrooms. Reducing mushrooms could cut your uptake of cesium by 80%. And the fish, well, 'nuff said.


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  • They are only surface addressing the true scope of this mess.. but I understand, that full disclosure would put an end to their funding.

    I take note of the fallout graphs being shown are not the true ones from the speed data file, but the Japan Gov. modified ones… and as bad as they are, they are not true scope of contamination. The plutonium issue was not fully addressed in any way.. I'm hopeful that it's going to be looked at.

    I've given the folks that are there… the full speed data files… yet they don't show them…? WHY? They show that you can't get near a rod pulled from the pool.. yet nothing is being said about what tepco did… and what a sham that was.

    The entire issue of fallout from a nuclear bomb, vs: Reactors spewing contents… how it's apples & oranges. How reactors have over 200 elements with much greater half-life.. isn't explored..!?

    The entire issue of what has fallen on USA soils in truth… isn't being presented in any true way !!!!

    I'm disappointed to say the least ! I've show the plume coming out of Pilgrim.. and while it isn't as bad as fuku… in what way as far as resultant effect… does it have on the environment that lends different results? We have 5 plants up here in New England area… they all dump into the ATLANTIC ocean… and ALSO we have 4 nuclear subs that sank out there YEARS ago.. they're rusting out… 4 reactors are sitting in the ocean rotting away.. so how does this now come as a surprise?


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  • Sol Man

    The headline speaks of contaminated fish from the Atlantic Ocean, as if it is separate from all of the others; no, not really. What we have here is a closed system that we all inhabit together. We have been fouling the nest a very many different ways for a very long time now, and, as a result, we may have created a situation where humans can not sustain.


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  • All the speakers at the symposium who compared Fuku to Chernobyl said it released less cesium and almost no plutonium.

    I do not believe that personally but that is what was said.

    No data were provided other than the measurements of the Japanese government. Safecast data were recommended but not discussed.

    The fact that much fallout went into the ocean and North America is, in my opinion, allowing for this trivialization.

    Very few speakers mentioned that North America got substantial fallout and no data were provided, not even by Gundersen on the hot particles in Washington state.

    I've posted my review at my blog.


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    • HH

      I wrote down a few points said at the symposium:

      * the road to the bomb is the nuclear power plant
      * nuclear energy has never been economical
      * 10% of the tsunami debris is radioactively contaminated
      * 100% Renewable Energy is what we should be striving for
      * any new energy has to be Renewable
      * nuclear trash (waste) is the same thing as long-term debt
      * even dry casks have to be replaced every 100 years or less
      * the cost of storing nuclear waste is incalculable
      * every time you build a nuclear power plant you're raising electric rates
      * everyone needs to call their electrical utility and tell them you want Renewable Energy


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      • HH

        one more:

        * background radiation has increased 25% in 100 years thanks to manmade sources


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      • VanneV anne

        There was also a problem with casks shipped to Chernobyl from a US manufacturer. I haven't found this story yet. But a manufacturer from Sweden is not supplying these casks. I did find the following:

        “NRC cask certification is valid for 20 year intervals, with reviewed extensions available. NRC has stated that dry cask storage is safe and reliable for up to 100 years.

        “However, problems with dry casks have surfaced not after decades or a century, but almost immediately in the first few years, raising serious questions about the NRC cask certification process itself. Evidence documents that the NRC’s CoC process has been taken over by cask manufacturers’ and nuclear utilities’ profit-driven pressure for expediency. The consequent lack of rigorous regulatory oversight has resulted in a complete lack of field testing of cask designs, NRC approval for exemptions allowing manufacturers to build casks before receiving the certificate of compliance, and mounting evidence of poor quality assurance and quality control of cask manufacturing.

        “In fact, a whisteblower fired by the largest nuclear utility in the U.S. alleges major quality assurance (QA) violations involving Holtec storage/transport containers. Oscar Shirani served as a lead QA inspector for Commonwealth Edison/Exelon of Chicago for many years, earning impeccable credentials.


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      • VanneV anne

        moving nuclear trast to New Mexico is a shell game to transfer liability.


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      • VanneV anne

        Also mentioned:

        Radioactive Heaven and Earth: The Health and Environmental Effects of Nuclear Weapons Testing In, On, and Above the Earth : A Report of the Ippnw in [Paperback]
        Anthony Robbins (Author)

        http://www.amazon.com/Radioactive-Heaven-Earth-Environmental-Effects/dp/0945257341

        The Nuclear Power Deception: US nuclear mythology from electricity "too cheap to meter" to "inherently safe" reactors [Paperback]
        Arjun Makhijani (Author), Scott Saleska (Author)
        http://www.amazon.com/The-Nuclear-Power-Deception-electricity/dp/0945257929

        “The Kyshtym disaster was a radiation contamination incident that occurred on 29 September 1957 at Mayak, a nuclear fuel reprocessing plant in the Soviet Union. It measured as a Level 6 disaster on the International Nuclear Event Scale, making it the third most serious nuclear accident ever recorded behind the Chernobyl disaster, and Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster, both Level 7 on the INES….”
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyshtym_disaster

        http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/07/fukushima-cover-up-unravels.html


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      • VanneV anne

        Another book mentioned:

        “Problems with the fractured, deteriorating, poorly repaired pipes and the cooling system had been pointed out for years. In September 2002, Tepco admitted covering up data about cracks in critical circulation pipes. In their analysis of the cover-up, The Citizen’s Nuclear Information Center writes: “The records that were covered up had to do with cracks in parts of the reactor known as recirculation pipes. These pipes are there to siphon off heat from the reactor. If these pipes were to fracture, it would result in a serious accident in which coolant leaks out.”
        “On 2 March, nine days before the meltdown, government watchdog the Nuclear Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) warned Tepco on its failure to inspect critical pieces of equipment at the plant, including recirculation pumps. Tepco was ordered to make the inspections, perform repairs if needed and report to NISA on 2 June. It does not appear, as of now, that the report has been filed.

        “The Independent has spoken to several workers at the plant who recite the same story: serious damage, to piping and at least one of the reactors, occurred before the tsunami hit. All have requested anonymity because they are still working at or connected with the stricken plant. Worker A, a maintenance engineer who was at the Fukushima complex on the day of the disaster, recalls hissing, leaking pipes.


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        • VanneV anne

          [cont.]
          “’I personally saw pipes that had come apart and I assume that there were many more that had been broken throughout the plant. There’s no doubt that the earthquake did a lot of damage inside the plant… I also saw that part of the wall of the turbine building for reactor one had come away. That crack might have affected the reactor.’

          “The reactor walls are quite fragile, he notes: “If the walls are too rigid, they can crack under the slightest pressure from inside so they have to be breakable because if the pressure is kept inside… it can damage the equipment inside so it needs to be allowed to escape. It’s designed to give during a crisis, if not it could be worse – that might be shocking to others, but to us it’s common sense.” Worker B, a technician in his late 30s who was also on site at the time of the earthquake, recalls: “It felt like the earthquake hit in two waves, the first impact was so intense you could see the building shaking, the pipes buckling, and within minutes I saw pipes bursting. Some fell off the wall…

          “’Someone yelled that we all needed to evacuate. But I was severely alarmed because as I was leaving I was told and I could see that several pipes had cracked open, including what I believe were cold water supply pipes. That would mean that coolant couldn’t get to the reactor core. If you can’t sufficiently get the coolant to the core, it melts down.


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        • VanneV anne

          [cont.]
          You don’t have to have to be a nuclear scientist to figure that out.’ As he was heading to his car, he could see that the walls of the reactor one building had started to collapse. ‘There were holes in them. In the first few minutes, no one was thinking about a tsunami. We were thinking about survival.’

          “The suspicion that the earthquake caused severe damage to the reactors is strengthened by reports that radiation leaked from the plant minutes later. The Bloomberg news agency has reported that a radiation alarm went off about a mile from the plant at 3.29pm, before the tsunami hit….

          “The reason for official reluctance to admit that the earthquake did direct structural damage to reactor one is obvious. Katsunobu Onda, author of Tepco: The Dark Empire, explains it this way: A government or industry admission 'raises suspicions about the safety of every reactor they run. They are using a number of antiquated reactors that have the same systematic problems, the same wear and tear on the piping.' Earthquakes, of course, are commonplace in Japan…."
          http://climate-connections.org/2011/08/19/the-explosive-truth-behind-fukushimas-meltdown/


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      • VanneV anne

        “The amount and intensity of the radioactive fallout from this particular nuclear disaster will assuredly kill hundreds of millions of people worldwide over time. Japan itself is, of course, the epicenter of this radioactive contamination that has spread out from these reactors.
        “However, the Korean peninsula, China and nations immediately surrounding the Japanese archipelago will also bear the brunt of a significant amount of radioactive fallout from this disaster. Immediately downwind of this radioactive release, though, is the United States of America and the entire northern hemisphere, comprising the majority of the world's industrialized nations on Earth. Significant amounts of plutonium, strontium, cesium, uranium and a whole plethora of other highly radioactive particles have already fallen on the continental land mass of the USA and have already entered the food chains and water tables of the nation.
        “To give one an example of how lethal radiation is, one pound of plutonium evenly distributed into everyone's lungs would kill every man, woman and child on Earth. There are literally "tons" of radioactive plutonium (among other radioactive elements) that have been released into the air and ocean environments since March 11th. Another critical fact to remember is that radioactive plutonium, for example, remains lethal (killing life) for thousands years as it has a half-life of 24,000 years.


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      • VanneV anne

        “Gundersen, a licensed reactor operator with 39 years of nuclear power engineering experience, managing and coordinating projects at 70 nuclear power plants around the US, says the Fukushima nuclear plant likely has more exposed reactor cores than commonly believed.

        "’Fukushima has three nuclear reactors exposed and four fuel cores exposed," he said, "You probably have the equivalent of 20 nuclear reactor cores because of the fuel cores, and they are all in desperate need of being cooled, and there is no means to cool them effectively.’…”
        http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2011/06/201161664828302638.html

        June 10 – 12, 2011
        http://www.counterpunch.org/sherman06102011.html


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      • VanneV anne

        “…The newspaper says the water may have contained up to one million times as much radioactive strontium as the maximum safe level set by the government, and about 300 times as much radioactive cesium. Both are readily absorbed by living tissue and can greatly increase the risk of developing cancer….”
        http://forgottennavajopeople.org/tag/tepco/


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      • VanneV anne

        Graph to show how females at birth are most at risk of cancer and mortality from exposure to radiation:
        http://radiology.rsna.org/content/251/1/175/F1.large.jpg


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    • VanneV anne

      There were cracks in pipes at Fukushima reported in 1989.

      The leaking casks at Hanford are not more than 70 years old.

      Instead of citing natural background radiation, the industry now just states background radiation.

      When the casks wear out, no one will be legally responsible.


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    • Sickputer

      I agree there were disappointments in the Fukushima speeches. Fairlie was dead wrong in his overlay of Tepco's cesium coverage against a much larger Chernobyl coverage map. How he could say that with a straight face after showing and bragging about the massive fallout projected by NILU is beyond me. You could hear a shoe drop in the conference room as everybody knew this was a bullshit move.

      Excuse me… But if winds from Chernobyl blew fallout to the south and west then so did Fukushima. The entire Honshu island has contamination. Not just 8%. And conveniently omitting the circle of Daiichi radiation to the Pacific Ocean is a whitewash. Radiation is extensive into the ocean for thousands of miles and the windblown fallout has circled the Northern Hemisphere many times.

      Chernobyl burned 10 days and had 180 tons of fuel.
      Fukushima Daiichi with 1760 tons of fuel has burned and leaked fuel for 733 days and is still out of control.

      I appreciate Dr. Ian Fairlie for castigating the WHO whitewash. But I feel he is not aware of what is really happening in Japan or he has personal reasons to promote Chernobyl as larger than Fukushima. He is dead wrong.


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    • VanneV anne

      “The reality on the ground offers a different picture. In Gomel, a city of 700,000 in Belarus less than 80 kilometers from the destroyed reactor and one of the most severely contaminated areas, the documentary film Chernobyl Heart reports the incidence of thyroid cancer is 10,000 times higher than before the accident and by 1990 had increased 30-fold throughout Belarus, which received most of the radioactive fallout. Chernobyl.info states that congenital birth defects in Gomel have jumped 250 percent since the accident, and infant mortality is 300 percent higher than in the rest of Europe. A doctor interviewed in Chernobyl Heart says just 15 to 20 percent of the babies born at the Gomel Maternity Hospital are healthy. Chernobyl Children's Project International executive director Adi Roche says it's impossible to prove that Chernobyl caused the problems: "All we can say is the defects are increasing, the illnesses are increasing, the genetic damage is increasing." Referring to a facility for abandoned children, she adds, "places like this didn't exist before Chernobyl, so it speaks for itself." Marples, who has made numerous trips to the Chernobyl region over the past 20 years, reports the health crisis in Belarus today is so serious that there are open discussions of a ‘demographic doomsday’…


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      • VanneV anne

        “The U.S. nuclear fleet has substantially increased its "capacity factor" (for a given period, the output of a generating unit as a percentage of total possible output if run at full power) since 1980. However, David Lochbaum, director of the Nuclear Safety Project at the Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS), points out that since the Three Mile Island accident in central Pennsylvania in 1979, 45 reactors (out of 104 operating U.S. units) have been shut down longer than one year to restore safety margins. …
        “Most of the current U.S. fleet is either in or entering its twilight years, and since the late 1990s the NRC has allowed reactors to increase the amount of electricity they generate by up to 20 percent, which exceeds what the plants were designed to handle. Such "power uprates" push greater volumes of cooling water through the plant, causing more wear and tear on pipes and other equipment. The agency has also granted 20-year license extensions to 39 reactors, and most of the rest are expected to apply before their initial 40-year licenses expire. At the same time, Lochbaum says, the NRC is cutting back on the amount and frequency of safety tests and inspections. Tests that were carried out quarterly are now performed annually, and once-annual tests are now done when reactors are shut down for refueling, about every two years….


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      • VanneV anne

        [cont.]
        “Lochbaum says the flaw in that logic is well illustrated by a near miss at the Davis-Besse plant in Ohio. In 2002 it was discovered that boric acid escaping from the reactor for several years had eaten a 15-centimeter hole in the reactor vessel's steel lid, leaving a thin layer of stainless steel bulging outward from the pressure. Boric acid had been observed on the vessel head in 1996, 1998, and again in 2000, and NRC staff drafted an order in November 2001 to shut Davis-Besse down for a safety inspection. NRC nevertheless allowed the reactor to continue operating until February 2002, when plant workers almost accidentally found the hole. If the reactor head had burst, the reactor would likely have melted down….
        “UCS's Ed Lyman says it is "a myth" that reprocessing spent nuclear fuel reduces the volume of nuclear waste: "All reprocessing does is take spent fuel that's compact, and it spreads-smears-it out into dozens of different places." Current reprocessing technology uses nitric acid to dissolve the fuel assemblies and separate out plutonium and uranium. But it also leaves behind numerous extremely radioactive fission products as well as high-level liquid waste that is typically solidified in glass. In the process, a lot of radioactive gas is discharged into the environment, and there is additional liquid waste that's too expensive to isolate, he says: "So, that's just dumped into the ocean-that's the practice in France and the U.K."


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      • VanneV anne

        [cont.]
        “Matthew Bunn, acting director of Harvard University's Project on Managing the Atom, has laid out a number of additional arguments against reprocessing. First, reprocessing spent fuel doesn't negate the need for or reduce the space required in a permanent repository, because a repository's size is determined by the heat output of the waste, not its volume. Second, reprocessing would substantially increase the cost of managing nuclear waste and wouldn't make sense economically unless uranium topped US$360 per kilogram, a price he says is not likely for several decades, if ever. Third, in this new era of heightened violence and terrorism, the proliferation risks-which would not be addressed by the new reprocessing technologies-take on even greater urgency. Fourth, reprocessing is also a dangerous technology with a track record of terrible accidents, including the world's worst pre-Chernobyl nuclear accident (a 1957 explosion at a reprocessing plant near Khystym in Russia) and other incidents in Russia and Japan as recently as the 1990s. Fifth, the new "advanced" reprocessing technologies, UREX+ and pyroprocessing, are complex, expensive, in their infancy, and unlikely to yield substantial improvements over existing reprocessing methods.


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      • VanneV anne

        [cont.]
        Finally, Bunn argues, the Bush administration's rush to embrace reprocessing spent nuclear fuel is premature and unnecessary, since the spent fuel can remain in dry casks at nuclear power plants for decades while better solutions are sought. …”
        World Watch Magazine, July/August 2006, Volume 19, No. 4

        http://www.worldwatch.org/node/4106


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    • We Not They Finally

      Yes. Golden opportunity missed. How could reactor 3 with the MOX fuel blow up sky high, yet release NO PLUTONIUM??


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  • What is the deal with Pu?

    Why did Ken Buesseler and Arnie insist that very little PU was released?

    Is that true? How could it have been detected in Lithaunia (fingerprinted with the C134 / C137 ratio)

    Stock has screen shots of the EPA filter detections of Uranium and Plutonium. I cannot post links here or I would.

    So, are we deluded in thinking that Pu was expelled voilently from unit 3 OR is there a concerted effort to make us believe no PU was released when in fact it was.

    Why?


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    • Jebus

      majia,
      Just realize that even the "experts" don't have a clue as to the actual amounts of anything that was released at FUKU.
      It is all estimation, extropolation and guesswork.
      At least one reactor was burning MOX, #3 and it is very apparent where that went.
      Stick to the number of melt-throughs, fuel rod numbers, tons of fuel, and percentages of Pu that are known and the truth is clear…

      Look here again, does it look like the MOX core was ejected?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k3Ofs6R9cg


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      • VanneV anne

        Unit #4 exploded twice and there were huge fires. There is speculation that MOX fuel assemblies were also stored in the #4 spent fuel pool.


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        • VanneV anne

          I'm highly suspicious that the nuclear industry is suppressing publications which would release more facts. Also, we know for sure that the EPA shut down monitoring systems so that radioactive fallout in the USA from Fukushima is not recorded. This was for sure true when they shut down all the monitoring systems in Idaho and elsewhere.

          Also, I am suspicious that Alexander Higgins house was purposely hit by being in the path of hurricane Sandy, which was manipulated by HAARP.

          The decision to let radioactive goods from Japan into the US, which were denied by other countries, and the refusal to test radioactive contaminated foods in the US are also disgraceful coverups.

          I was appalled when the Stanford professor of their Medical School knew nothing of the solar studies by Stanford professor Mark Jacobson. I was also appalled when he said that upkeep of solar and wind in California is as expensive as upkeep of nuclear and fossil fuel plants. He smirked when he said it. This old fossil needs to retire, IMHO.


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      • NOPE ! That was the Plutonium breeder rods in the pool going BOOM!… the core went BOOM 11 hours and 59 minutes after this… in the opposite direction!


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    • the reason is due to the fact it went super-critical and when that happens you get transmutations.. PU-239 becomes U-234 in a blast… and the air was loaded with U-234 post-blast. This proved beyond any doubt that they had P-239 type breeder rods sitting in that pool. And they got slammed together during the hydrogen ignition… it takes 10.5 kilo of Pu-239, or just 5.2 Kilo of Pu-241 to get a super-critical nuclear blast. But Pu-240 will make a nuclear blast fizzle… and that's what we had… a fizzled blast. Look at it any way you like.. the fact it happened, the speed of ejecta, the contents of the fallout in the air… it ALL says the same thing.. and that's aside from the pool content photo proofs I've given.
      They had a weapons program going on there.. and even the computer print-outs I posted from # 3 & 4 reactors shows that's the facts as well.. how many ways do you need to have it presented?


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  • Folks.. the MOX rods didn't have what's required to have a super-critical event like that… that's just the facts.
    I'm just glad they were older ones.. with lots of Pu-240… so it fizzled. If not for that…? More than half the US would be in body bags by now. Not that we are not walking dead in many respects… with 12 bits of death for each and every carbon based life-form chasing us and looking for point of entry to our body.


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  • Sickputer

    "OR is there a concerted effort to make us believe no PU was released when in fact it was."

    SP: If it walks like a duck…

    >Why?

    SP: You are a brilliant Internet researcher like two score others here on Enenews. These older scientists can barely do email. Don't beat yourself up looking for individual motives because the government motives far supercede a couple of fairly reputable nuclear experts.


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    • not much in the #3 blast.. it got fission-transmutation to U-234 that's true.. and was only small (Comparative!) amount in air.. enough to only kill several billions…. the burning off of rods that came after..? and all the pool fires.. entirely different story! 40 of such rods in the pool of #4… and 142 rods of same type burned up when #4 reactor core with open top went empty!

      That made it enough to kill every carbon-base form of life on this planet 12 times over.

      It's not what he said… it's what he DIDN'T say! ;-)


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  • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

    Individual Radioactive Elements/Isotopes
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/p/individual-radioactive-elementsisotopes.html

    Alpha Radiation Dangers; Polonium, Radon, Radium, Plutonium, Uranium; via A Green Road
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/alpha-radiation-dangers-polonium-radon.html


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  • This transmutation factor is why we offered to nuke the damned thing at the start. If used low-yield U-235's… could have transmuted the plutonium to U-234. They turned us down. Now…? the cores are too deep to reach, and are less volatile ways to deal with remainder of rad-inventory. Problem is in doing it all without help… and help means exposing your weapons program… and also all the other shit that happened… like the burning of rods in the CSFP building… and like issues.

    The public will FREAK OUT when that bit of facts gets out into daylight!


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    • We Not They Finally

      In our household, we just ASSUMED there was a top secret military agenda. But Yoichi Shimatsu wrote of it in October 2011. It was apparently first facilitated by the Cheney cabal through Texas shipping illegal nuclear materials to Japan. Then apparently in 2010 (sorry don't have references handy), Japan said it would be enriching uranium for IRAN. The thing is, low-life arms dealers (like Cheney, for instance)NEVER care if both sides wind up armed becuase it is just more money for them! But for whoever wants to dig, the political/military story behind the curtain is likely atrocious. And look who is in power now in Japan? Shinzo Abe. Shimatsu implicatedh im in October 2011 as being behind the illegal nuclear transfers to Japan. He's a left-over relic Cold War lunatic.


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  • the main issue with "Drop a bomb" trick…? You get only 15 or so isotopes left after… and longest half-life is 300 years on strontium.. the remainder aside from cobalt are half-lives of 40 years or less.

    Instead..? We now have free-ranging rad-wastes with 241,000 years worth of half-life. This is BAD !


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  • dharmasyd dharmasyd

    Don't be too fast to jump to conclusions. This whole nuclear disaster is, just that, disaster. But the operative verb in this article is "suggested." "Suggested" does not indicate a concluded proof.

    Quote>>>…"134Cs traces have been detected, suggested to originate from the Fukushima fallout…"<<<end quote.


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