Study: Fukushima radiation will cause long-term harm to Pacific salmon population — Efforts needed to protect species from possible extinction — Radiation monitoring is critical to avoid human health problems — “US inland areas also at risk of exposure”

Published: June 16th, 2015 at 5:03 pm ET


Journal of Applied Mathematics — Modelling the Effects of Radioactive Effluent on Thunnus orientalis and Oncorhynchus gorbuscha, New Jersey City Univ. (Chen, Ding, Laracuenti, Lipat (Columbia Univ., NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies)), 2013 (emphasis added):

  • The contamination of the Pacific Ocean by the radioactive pollutants released from the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant has raised legitimate concerns over the viability of marine wildlife. We… explore the extent of the effects of the radioactive effluent on two marine species: the Pacific Bluefin Tuna and the Pacific Pink Salmon…
  • Because of the brevity of the period of time during which radioactive material was discharged… [it's] assumed to be instantaneous [note the study was released before TEPCO admitted the flow of radioactive material into the Pacific never ended]…
  • This pollution was spread through the entire Pacific Ocean…
  • A numerical solution… will simulate the effects of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster… This simulation has far-reaching implications for decisions related to the location of nuclear power plants as well as to fishing policy…
  • According to data released by Tepco, the initial concentrations of radioactivity following the release of 11,500 metric tonnes of contaminated water into the Pacific Ocean… are 310,000 Bq/L of iodine-131, 230,000 Bq/L of caesium-134, and 230,000 Bq/L of caesium-137 [which] produces the initial radioactivity of the iodine-131: 3.57 trillion Bq… caesium-134: 2.65 trillion Bq… caesium-137: 2.65 trillion Bq [note that estimates by gov't scientists are 10,000+ times higher]…
  • Analysis of the results shows that the Pacific Bluefin Tuna will experience a steeper population decline in the short term compared to its expected population decline… after which the population will return to the expected population.
  • Pacific Pink Salmon, on the other hand, will simply decline at a faster pace than the expected population declineradioactive effluent will result in a marked and lasting decrease in population [see Fig. 5, 6]…
  • Before the conclusions are subjected to social analysis, the model’s limitations must be considered… the model does not reflect the migratory nature of both fish species. This does not, however, entirely negate the validity of the simulation: over a sufficiently long period of time, the short-term movement of the fish throughout the Pacific Ocean becomes negligible… The results of the model… opt to consider the fish species’ population on average…
  • The very high rate of decline of the Pacific Pink Salmon indicates that live specimens may contain relatively high levels of radioactivity. Continued monitoring of the Pacific Pink Salmon, as well as all marine species, for radioactivity will be critical to the avoidance of health problems for humans. Because the species migrates throughout freshwater rivers and tributaries of British Columbia, Alaska, and the Pacific Northwest of the United States, inland areas are also at risk of exposure to, at the very least, low-level radioactivity. Moreover, the rapid rate of decline of the Pacific Pink Salmon, in conjunction with rapidly deteriorating conditions, seems to necessitate drastic action. Work beyond sustainability is needed to protect the species from possible extinction
  • Because of the deleterious effects on the marine environment… it seems reasonable to suggest that any new nuclear power plants be constructed sufficiently far from coastal waterways so as to mitigate the absorption of any radioactive contaminants into the biosphere. This, however, would pose a risk to the environment near the nuclear power plant without the capacity of an ocean to diffuse the radioactivity…
  • The authors are thankful to [National Science Foundation award] NSF HRD-0902132 (LSAMP) for the support to do this research.

See also: Scientists: Radioactivity in food web off Pacific Northwest to “significantly increase” — Salmon forecast to exceed Japan radiation limit — “Major concern for public health” (POSTER)

Published: June 16th, 2015 at 5:03 pm ET


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120 comments to Study: Fukushima radiation will cause long-term harm to Pacific salmon population — Efforts needed to protect species from possible extinction — Radiation monitoring is critical to avoid human health problems — “US inland areas also at risk of exposure”

  • Homolumina Homolumina

    "…. to prevent any future radioactive pollution of marine environments, it seems reasonable to suggest that any new nuclear power plants be constructed sufficiently far from coastal waterways so as to mitigate the absorption of any radioactive contaminants into the biosphere. This, however, would pose a risk to the environment near the nuclear power plant without the capacity of an ocean to diffuse the radioactivity. The costs and benefits of this approach should be further studied."

    Any new nuclear power plants ? I wonder who poops in their brains…

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    • melting mermaid melting mermaid

      Right, just quit building the damn things. Wth is wrong with them? If we build them by the sea we will kill the ocean, if we build them inland they will destroy the land. Wherever then shall we build them. I suggest, go to hell and build them, if you must. Freakin morons.

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    • BanReactorsForever BanReactorsForever

      If there are still fish out there in the San Juan Islands I will catch some and freeze various tissue samples for future testing. We must collect tissue samples for testing. I think we still have a bit of Chinook Salmon meat that was caught last summer. In the shameful absence of US Govt radiation testing on our Pacific seafood we must step up and do their job for them it would appear. The FDA, EPA, DOE, NRC and DOD are not doing their sworn job which is to protect US and honor the constitution. Regulatory Capture is the key phrase here…

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      • Haidagwaii Haidagwaii

        Hey BanReactorsForever,

        I have just recently returned from a fishing trip to Langara Island, BC. I have been going on a yearly fishing trip their for over 10 years. Langara is the first spot the Kushiro Current hits on north america. The fish this year averaged about 10-17 lbs(chinook), yes we caught 3 24lb chinooks, but the size is down from previous years. Biggest changes I noticed this year is the general reduction in kelp. Several points that have always had large kelp forests, andrews point, corners of parry pass are now barren. Quite a change. Could it have been storms. Debatable. Yes there were quite a few whales(humpback and orca). The sealions on Langara Rocks were less in general numbers.

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  • StPaulScout StPaulScout

    "Because of the brevity of the period of time during which radioactive material was discharged (a matter of days)… "

    This is wrong. It has been discharging radioactive shit all along. It will continue to discharge radioactive shit for ever in human terms. The Pacific will eventually become so poisoned NOTHING will live in it. Hell, the Pacific is already dying, and radioactive crap has only been going in there for 4 plus years, wait another 10 or 20 years…..

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    • We Not They Finally

      Totally true. Yet they went on to say that that meant that the effects were "instantaneous," which is 180 degrees from the "dilution" and "slow-moving" myths. It is helpful that there is at least this one sharp divergence from the standard lies. Says that the National Science Foundation funded this research. Wonder if that kind of funding for these kind of results is continuing anywhere. This was 2013.

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    • jo

      U.K. Nuclear Whistleblower Gets Dishonorable Discharge [from Democracy Now]:

      The whistleblower who exposed rampant security flaws on the submarines carrying Britain’s nuclear warheads has been dishonorably discharged from the British Royal Navy. Able Seaman William McNeilly detailed the lapses in an 18-page report for WikiLeaks, writing that it’s "harder to get into most nightclubs" than into sensitive areas of the nuclear base in Scotland. McNeilly turned himself in to police last month. In a new report posted online, McNeilly says all of the charges against him have been dropped, but he has been dishonorably discharged "on the claim that my sole aim was to discredit [the Navy’s] public image. It is shocking that some people in a military force can be more concerned about public image than public safety."

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  • Daisy207

    "it seems reasonable to suggest that any new nuclear power plants be constructed sufficiently far from coastal waterways so as to mitigate the absorption of any radioactive contaminants into the biosphere. "

    Its a little late don't they think. Once the Pacific is gone the world is gone. Where do they think most of the oxygen on the earth comes from – phytoplankton. Dead phytoplankton emit methane and I for one can't breath methane.

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    • We Not They Finally

      This is what scientists do. They take one corner of the whole picture (here it's the ocean) and call it everything. Or think, let someone else calculate the air, much less the upper atmosphere — not our field. Chernobyl was yes, thankfully inland, but its effects are poisonous to this day. And that was just ONE reactor, plus smaller than any of the many at Fukushima.

      Meanwhile, there has been virtually NO information forthcoming on the alleged (according to Yoichi Shimatsu and he went right to Japan and talked to countless locals) secret nuclear weapons labs underground in that area. The Japanese government would obviously never disclose that for national security reasons (and it may have also violated international law) — and the U.S won't either, as it is allegedly directly in cahoots with the U.S. military.

      Have long since wondered if the Japanese turned down so much desperately needed international help from the get-go just to cover up military secrets. Like rather kill their own plus everyone else in the world, than release military secrets. What does that say about the way the world is being run?

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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    The Bluefin Tuna is going to rebound?
    And on what do they base this?
    Salmon are going to take it hard..
    And what about all the other species ..that are coming in contact with the radioactive contamination from Fukushima.
    Is concern about a couple of major species, enough to cover the situation? ..hardly.

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    • melting mermaid melting mermaid

      I believe that model is based on the initial release, not the daily releases that will occur for a quarter of a million years or so.

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    • From previous research, marine life fertility will be seriously affected, The contamination will also be bio-accumulated up the food chain by predators on land and in the sea, including Humans.

      8th October 1971 – Fallout and Reproduction of Ocean Fish Populations E.J. Sternglass, Department of Radiology, School of Medicine, University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

      Nuclear Fallout causes Fish Population Decline extract:

      As will be shown below, very large declines of fish-populations after low-altitude nuclear tests followed by a gradual recovery to pretesting levels have been observed both in the Atlantic and Pacific, strongly suggesting that the eggs of fish and the developing young are far more sensitive to internal radiation from low-level fallout than had been anticipated, very much as in the case of the human-embryo and fetus.

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      • Recent detection of Stronium-90 in Sockeye salmon.

        16th January 2015 – Japan-Radiation Test Results: 5th Round – We’ve tested our seafood for a fifth time … and again received very reassuring results


        Strontium-90: None detected in king salmon, halibut, or albacore tuna. Sockeye salmon contained 1,760 pCi/kg of strontium-90, which is less than half (41%) of the FDA’s safety limit (DIL) of 4,300 pCi/kg.

        “Grains, leafy vegetables, and dairy products are the leading sources of dietary strontium-90 in the U.S. diet, and the concentration in U.S.-grown vegetables typically peaks at 9 pCi/kg.”


        My opinion.

        It is commendable that this company is testing sea food for radioactive contamination.

        I am surprised at the amount of Strontium-90 detected in the Sockeye salmon, considering the other isotopes tested for were below reliable equipment detection limits. The question is why did the Sockeye salmon bio-accumulate so much Strontium-90, and the other fish didn’t? Knowing what they are eating and their migration patterns could answer this question. It may turn out that the Strontium source is not from Fukushima.

        Strontium-90 is a poison and does not have any dietary health benefit, at any level of contamination!


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        • Radioactive food contamination reports like this after constantly being added to the free publicaly accessible data base at,

          "The Food Lab"


          "Radiation Food Lab"

          If you are new here, be aware that governments around the world raised the so called safety levels for radioactive food contamination by 20X to 30x times or more after Fukushima.

          Here are two examples of this deception.

          They first release an article like the one below. I am using the EU as an example here.

          “EU boosts food import controls after Japanese nuclear disaster. The European Union is to step up controls on food imports from Japan in the wake of the nuclear accident at Fukushima – but stressed there was no evidence that consumers in the region were at risk from radiation-contaminated food.

          The EU ruling insists that all products from these prefectures are tested before leaving Japan and said they will be subject to random testing in the bloc. Japanese authorities will have to provide a declaration confirming products do not contain radioactive elements – called radionuclides – that exceed EU maximum levels. The Commission highlighted radionuclides iodine-131, caesium-134 and caesium-137."

          This makes you feel warm and cosy inside, because you think your government is looking after…

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        • We Not They Finally

          vital1: "My opinion. It is commendable that this company is testing sea food for radioactive contamination."

          You are seriously kidding, right? "This company" is the Japanese government! The Japanese say they have tested five times and the results are "reassuring"? And you are calling that "commendable"? There is zero possibility that their findings are honest or correct.

          And "It may turn out that the Strontium source is not from Fukushima." You are also seriously kidding about THAT too, yes? Check previous articles on this website about HORRENDOUSLY exponentially larger measurements of strontium-90 YES from Fukushima across the last four years.

          What did you actually MEAN to say? These statements make no sense.

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          • "This company" is the Japanese government!

            The testing was done for Vitalchoice by Eurofins Central Analytical
            Laboratories, not the Japanese government as far as I can tell by the
            information they provide.

            "Radiation-detection experts at Eurofins Central Analytical Laboratories
            analyzed samples of our primary wild Alaskan and Pacific seafood products."

            (Note: I use vital1 as my internet tag. I have no professional, commercial, or private links to this company.)

            This company published the fact that they detected Stontium-90 contamination in salmon.

            In my view that is commendable in the present political environment.

            Just because I point to a report doesn't mean I agree with the report
            assessment, or views on food safety levels. I thought I made that very clear in my follow up posts.

            Commercial lab Strontium-90 testing is a difficult and expensive process, compared to Cesium testing. That is why you mainly see Cesium-137/134 test results, and not Strontium-90.

            In 2012 a number of testing labs around the world were sent Strontium-90 samples of a know quantity, to test their proficiency, most of them got it wrong.

            13.11.2012 – 66 percent of worlds nuclear laboratories get Strontium 90
            measurements wrong.


            "And "It may turn out that the Strontium source is not from Fukushima." You are also seriously kidding about…

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            • "And "It may turn out that the Strontium source is not from Fukushima." You are also seriously kidding about THAT too, yes?"

              There are plenty of other possible Pacific Ocean radioactive Strontium-90 contamination sources besides Fukushima. Just look at all these reports on the massive radioactive waste dumping in the Pacific Ocean, that has occurred over the years.


              Fallout from previous nuclear accidents indicated that there was a lot more Cesium-137/134 fallout compared to Strontium-90. So you would expect much more Cesium-137/134 to be present compared to Strontium=90 in the test results, if the Stronium-90 contamination was from Fukushima. This also means that when you see a positive test result for Cesium-137/134 in Pacific Ocean fish, there is also a good chance Strontium-90 is also some present.

              So the fact that they didn't detect Cesium-137/134 in this series of tests, but did detect significant Strontium-90 contamination in the salmon, suggested to me there may be another possible source.

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              • 29.03.2014 – Researchers consider: How risky is that radiation?


                The baby teeth of kids living near the Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant contained radioactive Strontium-90 – which can cause bone cancer and leukemia – at levels nearly one-third higher than in the baby teeth of other California kids, says a controversial study released last week.

                Studies from France and Germany suggest that kids living within 3 miles of nuclear plants have double the risk of developing acute leukemia as those living farther away, and that the peak impact is on children aged 2 to 4; but the U.S. government’s take has historically been, “Don’t worry, be happy.”


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                • melting mermaid melting mermaid

                  That's horrible. And they just plop those cancer and radioactive waste machines anywhere they damn well please. And then they get offended if we accuse them of random premeditated murder. I just don't get it. How can an industry so full of smart people be so stupid?

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    • We Not They Finally

      That's true. It's become about destruction of so many steps in the food chain, not any one species per se. And the food chain eventually leads everywhere.

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    • ISPC

      Yes. Heart of the Rose. TY.

      "Analysis of the results shows that the Pacific Bluefin Tuna will experience a steeper population decline in the short term compared to its expected population decline… after which the population will return to the expected population."

      Hey! diddle, diddle,
      The cat and the fiddle,
      The cow jumped over the moon;
      The little dog laughed
      To see such sport,
      And the dish ran away with the spoon.

      ~ Another Fairy Tale by Mother Goose


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  • Pete

    More species dying in California, tuna crabs now, add them to the list.

    Pathetic that this is in their "offbeat" section, normally reserved for cute funny stories.

    Also look at the face of the woman in the picture, nothing like standing in the center of a pile of death to bring out the koolaid smile.

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  • Canuck1

    its sad to see the fish dying but take a look as the sheep feast on the radiated fish at outdoor restaurants..I watch packed restaurants with dolts who actually know they may be eating cesium. But they don't friends don't give a hoot..

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  • Jebus Jebus

    Obama Approves Raising Permissible Levels of Nuclear Radiation in Drinking Water. Civilian Cancer Deaths Expected to Skyrocket

    In soil, the PAGs allow long-term public exposure to radiation in amounts as high as 2,000 millirems. This would, in effect, increase a longstanding 1 in 10,000 person cancer rate to a rate of 1 in 23 persons exposed over a 30-year period;

    In water, the PAGs punt on an exact new standard and EPA “continues to seek input on this.” But the thrust of the PAGs is to give on-site authorities much greater “flexibility” in setting aside established limits; and
    Resolves an internal fight inside EPA between nuclear versus public health specialists in favor of the former. The PAGs are the product of Gina McCarthy, the assistant administrator for air and radiation whose nomination to serve as EPA Administrator is taken up this week by the Senate.
    Despite the years-long internal fight, this is the first public official display of these guides. This takes place as Japan grapples with these same issues in the two years following its Fukushima nuclear disaster.

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  • Jebus Jebus

    Government Reacts to Fukushima Radiation Crisis By Raising Acceptable Radiation Standards … Instead of Fixing Anything
    Posted on April 14, 2013 by WashingtonsBlog

    Governments Worldwide Raise Acceptable Radiation Levels Based Upon Politics … Not Science
    Posted on January 24, 2012 by WashingtonsBlog

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  • mt1000

    "NEWPORT – The council that oversees the region’s fishing industry voted Tuesday to re-open vast swaths of Georges Bank to fishing, a decision decried by environmentalists as a blow to conservation efforts, but lauded by fishermen as a boon to their business."

    . . . they know the Pacific is toast . . .

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  • weeman

    What goes for them goes to us, it's called biomagnafacation, be well my fellow minions.

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  • tinfoilhatbrian tinfoilhatbrian

    In layman terms the whole Pacific is toast and in due time so will the rest of the oceans. Correct? At least they say it but not so to the point. Gotta adjust that hat…

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  • nirakenna

    In the wake of Fukushima, and the potential ongoing and future “mishaps” and disasters from all nuke plants, it is important to know how to protect yourself and your family. Radiation Protective Foods: How To Shield Yourself From Low-Level Radiation by Sara Shannon is the only book I have found on this topic with definitive information on foods and supplements. I found a link on or you can google it, but make sure to get the 2014 edition. Also someone mentioned you can get it from amazon in book or audio format.

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  • nirakenna

    Radiation causes aberrations in all life forms. The toxic blooms in the Pacific are most likely caused by the radioactive debris coming from Fukushima. In the wake of Fukushima, and the potential ongoing and future “mishaps” and disasters from all nuke plants, it is important to know how to protect yourself and your family. Radiation Protective Foods: How To Shield Yourself From Low-Level Radiation by Sara Shannon is the only book I have found on this topic with definitive information on foods and supplements. I found a link on or you can google it, but make sure to get the 2014 edition. Also someone mentioned you can get it from amazon in both book or audio format.

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  • Finally! The mathemetitians weigh in!
    Too bad the (so-called) marine biologists don't pay attention to them…, and don't (seem to) read.
    I mean, I didn't need any protracted theorum to tell me what's happening, but I am glad it's there. Now someone needs to go write it in the sands of all of the beaches out in Cali, Alaska, Washington, and Oregon, IF there's any spot(s) clean of dead fish and mammals and birds….

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  • Looks like the cheesheads got their anti nuke hats screwed on straight….

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  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Many thanks, stock, for beginning the process of calculating the total heat in cores 1,2,&3. :)


    For beginners here, the link below is a fairly nice review of where Tepco now is in the decommissioning.

    This piece may be very conventional, containing the official timeline, rather than all the conjecture you get on ENEnews. But the article is useful for beginners, and anyone wanting a sitrep of Fukushima.

    Of note is the fact that Tepco has now pushed back the defueling of SFP1,2,&3 to 2018.
    This is a push back of 3 years. :(
    These buildings remain too radioactive for workers.
    I do not know if remote-controlled defueling, without any workers at all, is even possible.
    So they appear to be waiting out the worst of the radiation.
    May be a long wait. ;)

    Note also that the SFPs must be emptied before Tepco will even begin to address removal of debris from Containment1,2,&3.
    My guess is that Tepco won't release a map of the corium until 2022 or later.
    Apparently, this slow pace of cleanup is just fine with nuclear cartel-run world goverrnments.
    Not even a peep of complaint from any Pacific Rim Government over the sudden collapse of the Pacific Ocean Ecosystem after March, 2011…
    Meanwhile, up in da UP, best damn part of Michigan, da Yoopers wanna know:

    Where is da damn corium, eh, Tepco? ;)

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    • Skydiving@56Mike

      A global conflict is being staged, by 2022 this will be of little consequence.

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      • demise demise

        That date is an illusion. I have information from several sources and some that I can't reveal that the start of the 'end game' will be executed by the end of this year. It is fascinating that not one source has the whole picture or will not reveal it (because it's too shocking?).

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    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingTruth

      Planning for the next 30 years always takes precedence over supposed end dates. The end of the world has been predicted for many centuries, but none of those dates were the end of the world.

      Hope for the best, plan for the worst, but plan for continunce of the world and for the continuance of your life.

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      • demise demise

        We only need one triple melt down event to wipe out the planet and that is happening today, NOW. It is the worst possible scenario in the worst possible location. This has never happened before so it was not as assured as it is now. It is not a question of 'if' anymore, but 'when'.

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  • Mordechai Vanunu, Israel's Nuclear Whistleblower Kidnapped, Charged With Treason/Spying, Jailed, Spent 11 Years In Solitary Confinement

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  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    May, 2015 levels of Iodine-131 indicate ongoing corium fission at Fukushima.

    Iodine-131 Update

    Bobby1 has a new graph of Japanese Iodine-131 detected in sewage sludge.
    Save a copy of this graph, which you can send to all your friends who ask:
    "Why are still talking about Fukushima?"

    We focus on Iodine-131 because for the following reasons:
    1. The half life of Iodine-131 is 8 days. In 80 days, it is gone. It is from new criticalities.
    2. Iodine-131 is a clear indicator of recent nuclear fission releases from Fukushima.
    3. The amount of Iodine-131 in sewage sludge indicates that ongoing fission is coming from those 3 missing cores. Right now. In real time.
    4. The people in Central Japan are still drinking, eating, and bathing in water containing radiation from Fukushima. Even while the Government urges evacuees to return to their abandoned homes.
    5. Human tolerance for Iodine-131 is extremely low. A tiny dose is considered fatal.

    Big Alert, folks.
    Those 3 missing nuclear cores at Fukushima are still on fire. As of May, 2015. And, they are heating up.
    Tepco doesn't even talk any more about finding those 3 missing cores.

    Where is the damn corium, Tepco? ;)

    Bobby1 rocks!! :)

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    • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

      Stock, and all you math and nuclear professionals hereabouts: A new question springs to mind:

      I understand that standing water is a great absorber of Iodine-131.
      Assume that the critical corium mass is at the bottom of a water-filled corium lava tube in the mudrock and sandstone under the FDNPP.
      Given a water column of sufficient depth, Iodine-131 released by fissioning corium would presumably fall to zero.

      My question:
      Given the recent high levels of Iodine-131 reported by Bobby1, what is the maximum depth of the fissioning corium?

      Could it be fissioning just under, or within, the plant buildings?

      Could there be any other source for Iodine-131? SFPs? Water tanks? Contaminated water in basements?

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      • PostNuclear PostNuclear

        Here's something interesting about I-129 and I-131:

        "Iodine…has the unusual property of ‘sublimation,' which means that it can go directly from a solid to a gas, without first becoming liquid. It sublimes to a deep violet vapor at room temperature."

        (above quote from

        Since the corium is above room temperature, iodine can escape from the corium either dissolved in tepco's cooling water, or as a gas.

        "If I-131 were released into the atmosphere, people could ingest it in
        food products or water, or breathe it in."


        Connect the dots.

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        • General User General User

          @ PUN & PN
          May I add a thought to your statements?

          Considering the increased activity noted on the Fuku web-cam forum. and Bobby1 input about iodine,
          and fuku'-diary/Iori report about ground water flooding the plant (late 2014).

          Perhaps those tons of fuel rods bulldozed under a few inches of soil are now wet {moderated} enough to fission away, just under the steel plates thrown down on the roadways and paved over in the early days of this disaster??
          Such a strong "ground shine" would affect every SFP to some degree, but would greatly affect any unshielded/residual/splash corium remaining in the buildings EX-containment.

          I agree the sunken coriums are hotter than before. But also agree the water column above them are capturing a !very! large amount of their emissions. These captured emissions flow straight into the Pacific 24/7/forever

          Peace All

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  • demise demise

    If the United Stated issued an advisory or restriction on coastal food (either on land or sea) due to radiation, the effects on Japan would be very bad, because we are 6,ooo miles away and they are right in the middle of it. What does that say about their food production.

    The US knows this cause and effect in global economics, but friends or not, the native population has to come first, but this government is too politically motivated and not patriotic in the least. We are just drone tax payers.

    So here's your cell phone, SUV, Starbucks and super big screen TV, so SHUT UP and work so you can get a paycheck and we can rape you blind
    with fees and taxes.

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  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Tropical Storm Bill Update

    Bill is not a typical tropical storm. ;)
    What normally happens when a tropical storm makes landfall is that it loses strength.
    What happened since Bill made landfall yesterday, is that it has been growing in intensity.
    There are a series of videos of Bill growing over the last 24 hours on this link.
    Watch these, then tell me whether Bill is acting like a normal tropical storm.

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  • razzz razzz

    They already have a name for that effect and since major rains and flooding took place weeks earlier, conditions are ripe (adds to humidity) to sustain a topical storm or future hurricane as it makes landfall. On the other hand, large areas of earth that have been saturated with rainfall, can't heat up as much as dry land so aids in cooling or moderating temperatures in the summertime.

    'Abundant soil moisture could trigger 'brown ocean' effect, strengthen storm as it moves inland'

    "…Tropical storms usually gather power from the warm waters of the ocean and then weaken once they move over land. But the research has found some storms can actually strengthen over land by drawing from the evaporation of abundant soil moisture, a phenomenon known as the "brown ocean" effect, according to Marshall Shepherd, director of atmospheric sciences at the University of Georgia.

    "All the things a hurricane likes over the ocean is what we have over land right now," said Shepherd, one of the principals who conducted the research…"

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  • StPaulScout StPaulScout

    Just so everyone is clear about pCi

    1 becquerel [Bq] = 27.027027027027 picocurie [pCi]

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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      yes, but whats NOT clear is the danger of a becquerel which varies by hundreds or thousands of times, depending on all kinds of factors, not the least of which is the radioactive substance in question. Thus any argument using becquerels and curies is nearly meaningless.

      Because a fetus is in a state of extremely fast mitosis, a low internal dose radiation of 10 Bq/kg causes a baby to be born genetically damaged, sick, or it is aborted. Yet it depends on what radionuclide is giving off 10 Bq/kg. The specific activity of Iodine 131 is 4,600,000,000,000,000 Becquerel per gram which is some 17 billion times more than the ubiquitous K-40 which is generally the largest source of radioactivity in your body. specific activity of potassium-40 is 265,000 bq/g.

      Thus 5000 becquerels of radioactive potassium has caused no mass death or deformity for millions of years, whereas a few becquerels of say americium can cause genetic damage to an embryo. Thats why we now live in the age of deformity, and probably why pro nuclearists like to argue in terms of becquerels and the banana equivalence lie

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  • Jebus Jebus

    “A nuclear-free home”?

    Except for the radioactive dust bunnies already set free…

    Hope for a Nuclear-Free Taiwan
    June 15 2015

    The Fukushima nuclear accident rang the (death?) knell for nuclear power not only in Japan, but also in Taiwan, which is also located on the so-called Pacific Ring of Fire. There are three active nuclear power plants in Taiwan, and two of them are very close to its capital city, Taipei. Because the first and second nuclear power plants are planned to be decommissioned in the future six years, the fourth one was built to replace these two. Nevertheless, after a huge demonstration in April 2014, the construction of the fourth nuclear power plant was stopped, and it is scheduled to be mothballed in July 2015. On the other hand, due to the safety concerns and problems with nuclear waste, the first and second nuclear power plants are considered to be decommissioned as scheduled, or even earlier.

    They're gonna show us how it's done…

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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Somebody has to, since Americans are obviously clueless..

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  • Jebus Jebus

    Starfish Are Still Disappearing From Northwest Waters

    June 17, 2015

    Picture Caption: Malformed juvenile starfish in Puget Sound.

    “What sparked this virus – that was seemingly benign – to transform into this perpetrator of what’s considered the largest marine disease outbreak ever recorded?” Campbell says.

    “When you take a predator out of an ecosystem, the populations they had been eating can grow much more quickly. That shifts the whole biodiversity of that ecosystem.”

    “When you pull a large predator out of an ecosystem the cascading effects are everywhere,” Campbell says.

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  • Jebus Jebus

    Ask yourself some questions, as you see the cars, aeroplanes, helicopters, and EVERYTHING else, floating by…

    Remember, the Ocean is, our atmosphere…

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  • jump-ball jump-ball

    Friends laughed at my stacking 600 cans of long-dated 2017 tuna+salmon after Lehman+FDNPP and guess who is laughing last, as well as enjoying weekly uncontaminated salmon-tuna dishes, and not having to share any with my earlier critics…

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  • ftlt

    Most of you folks need to read Eco's Foucault's Pendulum. Your reactionary libertarian diabolist mindsets are straight out of it.

    1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + …. = 1 is the formula you prefer. No! Demand!

    This site's material presentation and comment section has gone beyond the ridiculous.

    FUFU is FFFF.d up no doubt. But, it is sadly just one of many things that is made desperately wrong with our world – made so mostly by human material greed.

    The Nuclear evil is but one symptom. It is not and never will be the whole problem.

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  • Cooter

    "Massive Highly Toxic Algae Bloom Fuels Total Marine Ecosystem Collapse…GeoEngineering Watch" 6-18-15

    In-bedded in this article are great links to other articles.

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  • kali

    This is a huge problem. Nationwide protests need to start happening. Immediately.Fukushima waste disposal firm’s network infected with virus. Published time: June 18, 2015 15:58
    "The Japanese state-run company managing temporary storage sites for decontaminated waste from the battered Fukushima nuclear power plant has fallen victim to a computer virus, the Environment Ministry announced.

    The Japan Environmental Storage & Safety Corp. (JESCO) has launched an investigation to assess if any vital information has been accessed, the ministry said, according to The Japan Times.

    On Tuesday night, as soon as it was established JESCO was dealing with a malicious virus, the operator shut down its network’s external communications. It was alerted by the company in charge of providing security for the servers when it detected an outgoing data transmission.

    The news comes on the heels of similar reports from the Tokyo Chamber of Commerce and the Japan Pensions Service. Hacks in their respective networks had led to leaks of confidential information."

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  • Jebus Jebus

    Fukushima becomes death…

    Responders say at least 9 endangered fin whales found dead near Alaska's Kodiak Island

    ANCHORAGE, Alaska – The carcasses of at least nine endangered fin whales have been found floating near Alaska's Kodiak Island.

    University of Alaska Fairbanks officials say the sightings of the massive marine mammals began in mid-May and continued for two weeks, documented by photographs.

    The carcasses of two whales washed ashore. Samples were taken from one of the dead animals and sent to a lab. UAF spokeswoman Deborah Mercy says the results are pending.

    Mercy says the whales feed near each other, and marine mammal specialists speculate the animals might have eaten something toxic.

    UAF marine mammal specialist Kate Wynne said in a news release that it's rare to see even one fin whale carcass every couple of years.

    A dead humpback whale also was found, but in a different location.

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  • West Aussie West Aussie

    Could this be just the Fermi Paradox rearing it's ugly, dangerously insane head? You know the numbers just keep on getting bigger. When they tested the plutonium bomb at Trinity there was quite a bit of conjecture that the explosion could ignite the entire atmosphere and destroy all life on the planet. They still went ahead and did it. That's how they seem to think.
    I'm at the point of entertaining the idea that we are battling demonic entities from the chaotic dimensions that they are trying to materialize at CERN. With the notion that these chaotic forces have convinced the powerful of the world that they will obtain immortality before they destroy all life on the planet with some kind of exotic, primal, nuclear physical manifestation. How else could they plunge on into another ill thought-out, mad scientist, scenario, AGAIN???
    The Large Hadron Collider has been described as a "Quark Cannon" with an INFINITE barrel length only limited by the power of the magnets and shaping coils running at near absolute zero to create superconducting conditions. Intending to smash the door into a dimension that can leak elements into our world that will destroy our planet (if the nature of 'strange' quarks as described by is the right track).
    OT, I know, but I can't think except in these sort of catastrophic terms when I read of such catastrophic loss of habitat.
    See ya.

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