Published: January 14th, 2012 at 5:34 am ET
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Breaking News: Possible rapid increase of temperature at Reactor 2, Fukushima Diary, Jan. 13, 2012:
One of the heat gauges at or near the bottom of the container vessel of reactor 2 measured heat over 100℃. [...]
- 17:00 1/12: 48.4℃
- 23:00 1/12: 102.3℃
- 5:00 1/13: 116.4℃
[...] Tepco still asserts it’s in the state of cold shutdown. They assert it’s not because the fuel has moved or recriticality happened, only because the gauge was broken.
SOURCE: 47News
Read the report here
Babelfish Translation
Title: Numerical value of reactor thermometer rise Fukushima 2 machine, meter defectiveness?
As for Tokyo Electric Power on the 13th, Fukushima 1st nuclear plant 2 at one of the thermometers which is the reactor pressure vessel bottom vicinity of the machine, numerical value rose and announced that it exceeded 100 degrees. The thermometer near because it is stable with the degree of 40~50, sees as the meter defectiveness.
According to Tokyo Electric Power Company, as for numerical value rising, the thermometer which is installed in the tube where the device in order to move the control rod enters. The temperature which 12th at 5 o’clock in the afternoon is 48.4 degrees, same day at 11 o’clock in the afternoon 102.3 degrees zooming, 13th at 5 o’clock in the morning showed 116.4 degrees.
The thermometer which measures the pressure container bottom which becomes standard of cool temperature stopped state stabilizes at 48 degree level. As for Tokyo Electric Power Company, the fuel which dissolved moves, the possibility re-criticality occurring have assumed that it is low.
Published: January 14th, 2012 at 5:34 am ET
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No Cold shutdown if the GAGE is broken. Can’t have your cake and eat it too. If the gage is broken..then no way to tell if reactor is in cold shutdown! These TEPCO and government idiots. Is there anyway people outside of Japan can hold TEPCO responsible for the radiation WE are getting? Our governments had better start protecting their citizens as well. This as worse than a war…well it is a war of a sort. May kill millions of people without one missile fired
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Of course it’s a broken gage, because broken gages smoothly measure a rise when they malfunction. Not. They either flip off scale or go to zero, arrgh. Doesn’t really matter since the gage is only measuring some small core remnant left in the reactor anyway. We need temps from under the reactor.
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Aren’t there satellites that can make temperature readings of any place on Earth? Why haven’t we seen any of the reactor complex?
TEPCO wants 2 trillion yen to remain solvent (read avoid bankruptcy) http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-01-11/tepco-said-to-seek-2-trillion-yen-in-loans-to-stay-solvent.html
Shouldn’t TEPCO be praised for the seemingly magical science they have that can convert a total reactor meltdown into a cold shutdown in a matter of a few days? Their stock should be soaring.
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Infrared can pick up temperature anomalies. Depends upon how much surface detail is wanted. Is anyone here an expert on Remote Sensing technology? Any public sources of info. avail. (like local satellite images) that might show some local temp. anomalies? For Japan?
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If they don’t get the 2 trillion yen, TEPCO should just threaten to put the sun in cold shutdown with their new ‘imagine/happen’ method.
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Same old, same old…
First, get corporate welfare and government money to make a very risky project happen, because no investor wants to touch with a ten foot pole. Of course, no insurance is possible either, because no insurance company will insure something this RISKY and DANGEROUS.
Once it is up and running, Keep all of the profits and do not share any with the employees.. Hire only subcontractors who hire the poor at very low wages, part time, with no benefits. The 1% at the top get to roll around in most of the money. The 1% get all of the stock options, annual bonuses, free trips, free housing, free health insurance plus other benefits and perks.
Then when the whole thing blows up, and the private corporationn gets more corporate welfare to clean up the mess and keep it going..
Meanwhile the average person suffers or dies, often without even knowing that the corporation is the one who caused the suffering or death.
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Look here and get a better perspective of what is going on:
http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/fukushima-np/f1/images/12011412_temp_data_2u-j.pdf
The particular instrument emits extreme readings but does not emit when there is no increase. There was an increase in another instrument at #2 a few days previous.
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Thanks for this information! It explains a lot!
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I have no idea what you are trying to say, please try again more clearly.
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Perhaps I can try to explain his post and the PDF for clarification.
From the translation above: “According to Tokyo Electric Power Company, as for numerical value rising, the thermometer which is installed in the tube where the device in order to move the control rod enters. ”
Steve, posted a PDF , containing temperature data from Reactor 2 containing values from the 3/20 til today (1/14).
From the translation you can determine the gauge(faulty one) they are talking about is listed as brown triangle, labeled CRD. It has a higher deviation than any other temperature gauge. Thus tepco states it is “faulty.”
Im not entirely sure it is or its been replace because given a comparable temperature guage is the yellow with a black dot, the fault guage is following it closely, except from those wild deviations. These deviations are extreme highs and lows indicating failure..Until after 5/19 because it appears there is no data. I’m suspecting they replaced it slightly after 6/18 as data begins and it appears to function normally, following the yellow and black dot. Until a couple days ago it spikes, while none of the other data shows this trend. All under 75C. Indicating another failure.
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I don’t get it either, sfv.
The link is a Tepco graph, but it’s in Japanese script and I’m not sure what I’m seeing.
Please explicate.
Thanks
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See above, hopefully i cleared it up
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Thanks jdotg. I think you’re saying Tepco’s faulty gauge opinion is credible because other nearby gauges are not showing similar variations. If so, that seems a reasonable possibility unless/until proven wrong. I wish I didn’t mistrust everything they tell us.
It seems that perhaps two gauges failed in exactly the same spot, once in June and once now – just bad luck, I hope.
As always, I guess we have to watch and wait.
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Al-G,
Thanks, I learned a new word today, “explicate.” Great! Had to look that one up …. The opposite of obfuscate?
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Question:
If a terrorist (domestic or foreign) were to set off
a nuclear weapon in Japan within minutes of the
most highly populated region of any country, what
would be expected of the Japanese Government?
What would be expected of its’ protectorate and
friend, the United States? What is expected of its’
populous? What would the world expect of the
United Nations (through the IAEA and WHO and
Security Council) ?
I suggest that we have we miss-defined terrorist
and terrorism and truly to our own peril? I don’t
fear the shoe bomber, I fear TEPCO, GE et.al.
and the Governments, World Wide that cover for
and support them.
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Actually, I would modify the question a bit…
If a terrorist were to set off OVER 100 ATOMIC BOMBS within miles of a major city with millions of people in it, and continuously release radiation for the next 10,000 years from that same area, thus exposing millions of people to dangerous radiation levels, what would you expect your government, your nuclear ‘protection’ agencies, your environmental agencies and other organizations to say and do about it?
Because that is what is happening now.. The nuclear explosions in #3 reactor and spent fuel pool equal at least 100 nuclear bombs (or more) and the radiation being released on a daily basis is HUGE, even today…
It is really ODD, that no one seems to mind, no one seems to care, and very few complain even a little bit…
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The most strange of all is, all the countries act as if it is over. No opposition with all these weapons. Army is needed when there is some kind of a conflict. You do not need nukes to fight terrorists. But on this matter they all agree. Should we think every government fights mainly and most successfully against its own people?!
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SW corner of building #2, is being CONSUMMED by forest at an amazing rate!
It’s all just a malfukuioning temprature probe, honestly! Nothing to see here…. go about your biz!
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OMG, we need to attack this out of control forest.. Somehow it is conspiring against us, by dropping radioactive leaves and radioactive dust on us all.. We need to chop down the whole forest and put concrete over the whole area where the forest used to be. How DARE the forest grow and contaminate us all like that?
Let’s petition the government… these radiation producing trees cannot be allowed to stand… We need to do away with them ALL, globally.
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You forgot the part where we burn the forest after cutting it down, sending all the radiation up into the jet stream.
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And then mix the ashes with landfill, and dump into into Tokyo Bay. Kinda reminds me of mass-marketed little girl’s first baking toys, doesn’t it? Easy bake oven?
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@ AGreenRoad, good summary of the truths about nuke power industry… but forgot to mention that the nuke power process produces as a by-product PLUTONIUM … which is needed to make nuclear weapons. Hmmm…
But – there was that nuclear arms race-we had to do that or the Soviets would have taken us over – right?
Not necessarily. Read Antony Sutton’s book about Western financial & technological support of Russia/USSR – called THE BEST ENEMY MONEY CAN BUY.
Also check out the info that FDR knew in advance about the Japanese Pearl Harbor attack but let it happen, because the big money interests wanted the USA to enter WW II.
Fact is, war is very profitable, sweetheart contracts for war supplies go to insiders, & war stimulates economies out of Depression/recession – & ‘thins the human herd’.
And – it was Fed policy (Fed. Reserve created in 1913) – namely lots of money creation-out-of-nothing – that led to the boom of the ’20s & the Depression of the ’30s… & the only thing that REALLY ended that Depression was… WW II – wars stimulate economies by creating need for manufactured items used in war, & creating military jobs.
All of this IS related to the development of nuclear power … because the big bugaboo wars were mostly deliberately fomented.
But if you read the phony history that is taught, you get the idea that we ‘had’ to develop nuclear power arsenals because of the threat of Russia attacking us.
My point – the same elites that are polluting the environment today, & fomenting all of these wars in the Mid-East, etc. have CREATED the ‘threat of war’, have CREATED the ‘need’ to develop nuclear weapons, which created a ‘need’ to produce plutonium in … nuclear power plants…
Even today, the whole ‘terrorist threat’ is yet another created bugaboo – there is abundant evidence available that 9/11 was perpetrated by powerful elements withing the US government/big business. You can google that and find a lot of info on it.
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TPTB are itching to get us into war with Pakistan and/or Iran. Of course they will resist any attempt to slow down or halt their agenda.
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“Faking It: How the Media Manipulates the World into War”
http://www.corbettreport.com/faking-it-how-the-media-manipulates-the-world-into-war/
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Here is some of what you get when you have a ‘criticality’
93 Long lived radioactive elements, 17,000 years to BILLIONS of years total decay life;
http://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/3069680
This is what you can tell your kids that you left for them to clean up, once you are gone. The Egyptian pyramids are only 5,000 years old, and the Bible is about 2,000 years old.
How much sense does it make to heat water for only 30 years with fuel that blows up and melts down (creating huge non livable zones for 50,000 years, and then have to deal with the radioactive leftovers from the spent fuel, laying around for billions of years? Do you REALLY want your kids and grandkids for infinite future generations to pay for the storage and guarding of these dangerous, terrorist inviting waste products?
More details on just 13 of the above long half life radioactive elements;
Part I http://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/3047473 Elements 1-9
Part II http://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/3048444 Elements 10-13
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What I learned in school:
Thermometer for measuring temperature.
Pressure gauge measures the pressure.
What do they mean by this nonsense:
“The thermometer which measures the pressure container bottom…”
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TEPCO “assumes.” Who is surprised that they always “assume” what best serves their line of bull?
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