Tepco Adviser: 925 quadrillion Bq of contaminated water from trying to cool melted Fukushima cores in first few months after 3/11 — TV: “Tepco has no idea where the fuel is” (VIDEO)

Published: November 23rd, 2013 at 1:15 am ET
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Presentation by Tepco Adviser Lake Barrett (Part 2, pg. 20), July 29, 2011: Contaminated Water Accumulating

  • Feed & Bleed Core Cooling Flushed Large Amounts of Highly Radioactive Water into Building Basements
  • Approximately 30 Million Gallons Now
  • Approximately 25 Million Curies [9.25 x 10^17 becquerels or 925 quadrillion Bq]

CNN, Nov. 7, 2013: How do you remove molten fuel in melted down reactors? The radiation levels in reactors 1, 2 and 3 are so high that the area is inaccessible to humans. No one knows for sure where the molten core is resting within the basements of the buildings and how far it has penetrated through their floors. The technology does not exist to remove this molten fuel.

France24, Nov. 13, 2013 (at 6:45 in): The melted fuel [is] deep in the basements of 3 other reactors. Those reactors are still very highly radioactive. Tepco has no idea where the fuel is. So if anything, that’s going to be a much bigger challenge than the fuel rod removal this month.

Watch the France24 broadcast here

See also: Nuclear Engineer: Estimated 276 quadrillion Bq of Cs-137 entered Fukushima basements -- Triple Chernobyl total release -- A portion "has already made its way to aquifer, whence it can easily flow into sea"

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70 comments to Tepco Adviser: 925 quadrillion Bq of contaminated water from trying to cool melted Fukushima cores in first few months after 3/11 — TV: “Tepco has no idea where the fuel is” (VIDEO)

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    T H I N K . B I G

    Imagine the plant as a small candle, and douse the flame.

    It can be done.


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  • Grampybone Grampybone

    Approximately 25 Million Curies [9.25 x 10^17 becquerels or 925 quadrillion Bq]. This number may seem large to describe radioactive water that had been cooling spent fuel rods and has subsequently been released. It by no means reflects the actual nature of exposure and release from the core cooling that has taken place at this point. 1.3 MsV-3MsV is a constant 50 yards from where the core dropped, and human activity has ceased due to steam releases. Atmospheric events AND core events are happening at the same time. "A few months" is not a number of total gallons poured onto the core hence the number is pitifully low. The core water is draining out the bottom with no actual understanding of how much is going down. In physics you could square this number and multiply it by 3(reactors)to represent 2 months of the FNPP initial damage control. The math gets bigger and bigger after whatever a few months and the total liters of liquid pumped in is calculated.


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  • Kashiko Kashiko

    This is an interesting site… just put Fukushima or any other keyword in;
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed


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    • Sparky Sparky

      Whoaa! I forgot what a good resource PubMed can be. Thanks, Kashiko. 754 studies come up under a "Fukushima radiation" search. 'Would be good to do a lit review, assuming one would have the time and inclination. Also good to check the conflict of interest statements and backgrounds of the researchers/institutions for added context.


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  • Kashiko Kashiko

    I'll have some time tomorrow. I'll scan through as many as I can and post the most relevant/interesting ones here


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  • ruppert

    The question that nobody is asking and I think is very important is "How much time before the whole site becomes too radioactive for humans to be there working"?

    I can't even wrap my mind around numbers that large but it sounds like there's a tremendous amount of radioactivity being released in that relatively small area and there must be a point where the workers just cannot keep working.

    They keep talking about all these years it will take but will they even have those years available to them?


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    • nedlifromvermont

      ruppert: "will they have those years available to them?"

      Answer: No. It's more smoke and mirrors, from what we have come to discover is a gigantic fraud; a massive, radioactive Ponzi scheme; which was delivered wholesale to the planet by some greedy Caucasian banker types, who cared not for the future of a fragile planet.

      So very tragic.

      Brilliant, Coffin!

      peace to the 'newsers …

      last Harvard-Yale game at the Yale Bowl?


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      • VanneV anne

        The bankers are descendants of Turkish and Mongolian tribes:

        http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2009/01/24/khazar-empire-illuminati-and-new-world-order/

        The Aryans and from India.

        The problem with racism is that the myths are ignorant propaganda.


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        • VanneV anne

          They are from the Caucasus Mountains, but they are not what have mislabeled the Caucasian race.


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          • VanneV anne

            In Search of the Cradle of Civilization
            by Georg Feuerstein, Subhash Kak
            “For decades, schoolbooks have taught that Sumer was the cradle of civilization. Conventional scholarship has also held that Aryan civilization came to India by way of invasions from the north. But in this ground-breaking book, three renowned scholars show that there was no "Aryan invasion," and that India, not Sumer, was the cradle of civilized humanity. Through exploring the rich symbols, metaphors, and myths of the Vedas, this book also examines the wealth of India's spirituality and its relevance for today's world….”
            http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0835607410/aharondaniel


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            • nedlifromvermont

              Thank you Anne, for once again calling my mistakes out! I'm serious … I need it. My use of the word "Caucasian" was unnecessary … just as unnecessary as the development of nuclear fission power at civilian power installations. "greedy banker types" would have done nicely.

              Now that JP Morgan seems to be settlement ready, maybe they would like to cut a check for several trillion dollars in damages from their General Electric ('cash cow') designed and built, flimsy, Rube Goldberg contraption, from which several hundred tonnes of molten metal, highly toxic and incredibly radioactive (read utterly foolish) has gone missing, in a fatal hide and seek moment for carbon-based life forms on planet Earth.

              Incidentally, I want to buy "The Petkau Effect" which you referenced some threads ago …

              I have been taking a break from my nuclear studies, and I'm enjoying Anthony Everitt's biography on Cicero.

              So many fateful similarities between our addled empire and the decline of the Roman Republic, transition to Emperor rule …

              We may have lived, but we take our learning with us to the grave … How to pass on knowledge?

              Ancient societies developed myths to try and warn future generations … but the Pandora's box thing always seemed too "incomprehensible" … because the planet seems so big to us … yet, seen from light years away, our little metallic ball of dirt don't seem so huge after all …

              Love your posts, Anne; take care in Colorado …


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              • nedlifromvermont

                oh, and Anne … maybe you and some folks out there could start a little movement to unseal the record of the Grand Jury re: the Rocky Flats investigation.

                I did read Full Body Burden by Kristen Iverson. A compelling read from someone who worked on the inside.

                So many tales to tell.

                So sad. So unnecessary.

                But maybe the only way out of nuclear power and bombs is a blanket immunity, so the truth may come out and not be forever blocked by our masters …

                whaddayathink?

                peace …


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          • HoTaters HoTaters

            So you're not including Anglos or Saxons? Or other European ancestors?


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      • VanneV anne

        Japan Tested Atomic Bomb in NK Before End of WWII?
        http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/12/113_56715.html

        Japanese scientists developed the Russian nuclear program which included nuclear energy and proliferation of nuclear technology, e.g., Iran’s nuclear program.

        The Japanese have taken over the US nuclear program and are building nuclear reactors in Turkey, Vietnam and other locations worldwide.


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      • VanneV anne

        Radiation causes mental disability and instability, disease and sterility, and economic depression and slavery.

        Radiation is the ELEphant in the room.

        The 20th century is the birth of this failed nuclear technology.

        The 21st century is the mental deficiency which is the failure to recognize 20th century failed technology and is caused by that nuclear failed technology.

        Nuclear technology is a corrosive war against all humanity and the death of all humane actions.

        The populations of Russia, the US, Japan, Iran, China and elsewhere are declining due to radiation contaminated uninhabitable lands. Radiation is killing all life forms on the planet and leaving in its wake insanity and mental retardation.


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        • nedlifromvermont

          Right you are. Let's keep spreading the 'news' !!

          Thanks to ENE admin and to all the 'newsers!

          peace … heading for the Bowl.


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        • HoTaters HoTaters

          anne, with all due respect, the view radiation is causing decline in world populations (in and of itself) is just not plausible. There are also a lot of economic factors at work. Think of the rise of women in the workplace, China's one child policy. The decline of birth rates in industrialized nations is a well known phenomenon.

          Yes, radiation is bad, it is killing people and causing a host of illnesses. If you were to frame your argument in terms of excess deaths due to radiation and illnesses, deaths it may cause, the argument would have more credibility.

          Calling white green does not make it so.


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          • HoTaters HoTaters

            I mean please, be reasonable, rational.


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            • VanneV anne

              Birds Near Fukushima Hit Harder Than at Chernobyl
              • “…Overall, as expected, the bird community in Fukushima declined significantly in the more contaminated areas.
              • “For 14 species of birds that appeared in both Fukushima and Chernobyl, the decline in population size was more pronounced at Fukushima than Chernobyl.
              • “Among all birds, including the species not common to both areas, more birds declined in Chernobyl than Fukushima. …
              “Overall more birds declined at Chernobyl because it's been more than two decades since that disaster, during which many species have basically disappeared from the most contaminated regions….”
              http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/02/birds-near-fukushima-hit-harder-chernobyl


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              • HoTaters HoTaters

                So throwing an unrelated argument into the mix proves your point?


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                • HoTaters HoTaters

                  My apologies if this offends you, but sometimes it seems you go to great lengths to BE RIGHT about everything. It's OK to not have to be right all the time. You might find it relieves a lot of stress. It becomes taxing to read posts (one after another after another) from someone who has to be right all the time. You don't even engage discussion. What's the point?


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                  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                    HoTaters, anne is on a quest and she is force feeding (pushing) information not only to you, but also to the thousands of people that visit this site on a daily basis.

                    Yes, some of this information is repetitive, and yes, she think she is right 99% of the time and that is OK. An informed individual is a stronger individual and they can make up their own minds as to what to believe or not to believe of any information posted.

                    I knew many years ago that Chernobyl was the downfall of Russia and Fukushima "will be" the downfall of Japan, and yes, maybe even the USA, since it is all coming directly to our shorelines. This is what Nuclear Radiation Contamination accidents do and why this Nuclear Technology must be banned worldwide immediately.

                    This is very bad stuff we are dealing with and not to be taken lightly be any sense of the imagination. It does not belong on this planet… :(


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                  • VanneV anne

                    I include citations because these opinions are from people who are experts in their fields. You can disagree with these experts. My ego isn't involved at all. I have a life apart from nuclear atrocities.

                    But I used to work as a library assistant in a university library. And, as Dr. Strohm says, we can only win if we become better educated. And being a researcher is what I do best.

                    As Dr. Strohm says crimes against the children are the worst crimes.

                    I cry for the children. And it is all the children in the entire world who are being harmed.

                    Please look at all the scientific studies in the forum for effects of low dose radiation. Radiation causes sterilization. Sterile people can't have children. And the people who aren't sterile are giving birth to deformed babies and chilred with lowered IQs. There is no hope or future with no health children.

                    I posted reports by journalists in Kiev, 60 miles from Chernobyl. Everyone there is ill, and the children worst of all.


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                  • VanneV anne

                    HoTaters. I am not offended at all. I just am advocating for the children.

                    Please let us love our children and try to save the world for them.


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            • VanneV anne

              Nuclear Power Crimes Against Humanity & Environment

              “… nobody has the right to shackle future generations with nuclear waste and inevitable radioactive pollution for any reason whatsoever, nor to take the risk of catastrophic accidents which are known to happen…
              “Given that nuclear power is not safe was definitively proven with The Chernobyl Nuclear Catastrophe, any claims of safety or participation in nuclear power activities afterward should be deemed criminal…”
              http://rceezwhatsup.blogspot.com/p/nuclear-power-crimes-against-humanity.html

              Dairy farmer Kenichi Hasegawa dumps milk in a corn field in Iitatemura, Fukushima prefecture. Radiation has seeped into vegetables, raw milk, the water supply and seawater since a magnitude-9 quake and killer tsunami crippled the Fukushima Dai-ichi power plant on March 11.
              http://rceezwhatsup.blogspot.com/2011/04/nuclear-power-industry-is-crime-against.html

              Nuclear Power Industry is a Crime Against Humanity!

              By Francis Boyle
              Sunday, 20 March 2011
              Francis A. Boyle
              Professor of International Law
              University of Illinois College of Law
              http://rceezwhatsup.blogspot.com/2011/04/nuclear-power-industry-is-crime-against.html


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          • VanneV anne

            Did Chernobyl Cause the Soviet Union To Explode?
            The nuclear theory of the fall of the USSR.
            “…Fewer than six years elapsed between the meltdown at Chernobyl and the formal dissolution of the Soviet Union—six years marked by suspicion of government, dissatisfaction with public safety, and demands for greater transparency. Could Chernobyl have caused the first, most fundamental crack in the Soviet state and led to its collapse?
            “That might sound like an audacious proposal, but it’s been advanced by none other than the man who oversaw the dismantling of the USSR, Mikhail Gorbachev. He states flatly that the Chernobyl explosion was ‘perhaps the real cause of the collapse of the Soviet Union.’ According to Gorbachev, the Chernobyl explosion was a “turning point” that “opened the possibility of much greater freedom of expression, to the point that the system as we knew it could no longer continue….”
            http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/nuclear_power/2013/01/chernobyl_and_the_fall_of_the_soviet_union_gorbachev_s_glasnost_allowed.html


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          • VanneV anne

            Ho Taters. Please listen to this interview:

            English Interview about nuclear danger with Holger Strohm

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZL7FM_zLgM

            I was listening again and taking notes, but am too tired right now to type them up.

            Dr. Strohm has written 80 books but he is censored as are many journalists.


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          • Fall out man!

            Chis Busby pointed to a drop in Iran's birthrate after Gulf War 1. His view was that DU dust taken by prevailing winds from Iraq had affected Iran as well as part of Europe. He states that in one of his video interviews.
            There is also the Joe Mangano work pointing out the drop in Californian birth rates each time the US govt did a round of Nuke testing and how some years they had to "adjust" the birth rate in California by adding 50k or so births to try to get the stats not to look so bad.
            Then there is this video about how Chernobyl fallout affected bird birth rates in california. This is a very chilling video. Thing is, cancer is the least of a persons worries after being contaminated with fallout. It affects the genome, and so every part of the organism, and that damage is passed on to the next generation.
            Russia has a drive on to get people to have more kids. Despite that, their population is not replacing itself. I've no doubt fallout is a significant factor in that. According to Busby, human birth rates went into decline in areas affected by DU dust blown from Gulf War 1.

            But anyway, check out the birds, this is chilling, and should give pause for thought on birth rates.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hcBGSr9QGk&feature=youtu.be

            (apologies for not pointing you to the Busby interview, ran out of time, and it will take some hunting. I'm off to bed. Good night!)


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      • VanneV anne

        From the Asian continent: the birth and death of civilization.


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      • harengus_acidophilus

        "greedy Caucasian banker types"

        Really, it's a matter of rascism?

        Simple solutions for simple minded people.

        h.


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  • ruppert

    Does anybody know for certainty which of the 2 versions are correct about the state of Reactor #4 SFP?

    I read about the FOIA documents stating that the pool was damaged and on fire and lost it's water per the Hatrick Penry videos showing the NRC FOIA documents.

    Then I see what appears to be a dog and pony show they are doing but many people are just acting like and giving validity to what they are doing at Reactor #4 by discussing it like what they say is really happening.

    I feel like I am in a combination of "The Monkey House" and "Alice in Wonderland".

    Both versions can't be correct simultaneously and nobody seems to be saying anything about those FOIA documents. In my gut I feel Hatrick Penry is being sincere and the NRC documents to be real but what is going on in Reactor #4 is being given so much validity around the world and you'd think at least one major news organization would at least talk about the discrepancy.

    I guess it's true what they say about "The Truth" is always the first victim.


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    • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

      I don't have the answer to your question, but perhaps a different perspective might help?

      It doesn't matter which story is true. There are three melted-down cores right next door. They might be in the groundwater table themselves, or they might be on the walls of the buildings & circling the globe. We don't know.

      Point being, there is so much obfuscation by both governments, and so much outright ignorance on the part of TEPCO, that we won't be informed enough to prepare for any calamity until after it has passed. Sadly, that's the reality of this whole disaster.


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    • VanneV anne

      The different versions are probably just to avoid legal responsibility for the accident.


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  • jackassrig

    dog and pony. When does TEPCO lie, every time they move their move their lips.


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  • truthseek truthseek

    TepCLOWNs are at work, feverishly building
    a story to suit what (we each realize)
    has .already. played out…


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  • truthseek truthseek

    Can you fathom a class action
    or worldwide legal battle?
    for all involved in
    this cover up…

    (which would never occur)

    I dream of their payment,
    actually their torture.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Crash…You need to catch up as you are now entering and are now in/on the lunatic fringe my friend. You must be clueless as to the internet space you have/are entering as we are the cutting edge of knowledge that has purposefully been hidden from you by your masters.

    Mark can do what ever he chooses to do…just like you can. :)

    Step out of the box that somebody else created for your mind…take the red pill. :)


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  • mairs mairs

    I don't get the problem with capitalizing things. There is no sound being made so why is it called yelling?


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  • mairs mairs

    From "Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment". -Yablokov

    "From year to year there has been an increase in nonmalignant diseases, which has raised the incidence of overall morbidity in children in areas affected by the catastrophe, and the percent of 'practically healthy' chinfen has continued to decrease. For example, in Kiev, Ukraine, where before the meltdown, up to 90% of children were considered healthy, the figure is now 20%. In some Ukrainian Poles'e territories, there are no healthy children, and morbidity has essentially increased for all age groups. The frequency of disease has increased several times since the accident at Chernobyl. Increased cardiovascular disease with increased frequency of heart attacks and ischemic disease are evident. Average life expectancy is accordingly reduced. Diseases of the central nervous system in both children and adults are cause for concern. The incidence of eye problems, particularly cataracts, has increased sharply.


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    • We Not They Finally

      That's the thing. Radiation destroys EVERY PART (no apology for caps — ha!) of the health. Cancer just gets the most attention, as it doesn't fall into "chronic" territory. You either live or you die. Somehow (unclear why,) being debilitated for life seems less notable.

      Ever since the Spring of 2012, when ENE News featured that 60% of children under the age of twelve in the disaster area already had DIABETES, have been looking for follow-ups, but they are not there. Untreated diabetes is a killer. And if there are not mass public programs for parents on diabetic control for their kids, it's a massive health disaster all its own.

      Doesn't have to be cancer at all….


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      • Fall out man!

        I think cancer is emphasised because ironically its the least of a persons worries after fallout contamination. Every disease goes up, and usually radiation induced heart attack gets a person before cancer. According to a doco I saw on youtube (apologies for not providing link) , 5 years after Chernobyl went off, people panicked as from that point many started dying of heart attacks. Will we see that happen in Japan? History tells us its a tragic likelihood. All diseases increase with radiation exposure, and internal radiation exposure from fallout contaminated food, air and water is very serious even in tiny doses.
        Heart attack is more likely to get a fallout victim than cancer. It acts quicker. Note the COO of Tepco responsible for handling the plant in the early days of the disaster got a terrible stroke before cancer could kill him. Stroke is another radiation induced disease.
        So yes, Cancer is likely focused on to avoid recognising so much other radiation related disease. I think its a side track. Other rad related diseases often kill before cancer gets a look in.


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    • Cooter Clyde Scalf

      When Chernobyl happened I thought the world would wake up but apparently that didn't happen.

      I am profoundly sorry for your loss. Now I am profoundly sorry for humanity's course of evolution.

      America started this entire nuclear thing and then Russia needed to follow suit. In the end you can run but you can never hide.

      Peace my friend.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Cancer is just another name for something (growing evil) that they can not cure and if diabetes can not be cured and spreads well then that might also be considered a form of cancer. They like the p53 mutations though to classify cancers.. :(


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