Tepco Adviser: Wait until Alaska salmon is found with Fukushima contamination, it’s only a matter of time — US Gov’t Report: “Radiation hot spots may occur… radioactive contaminants could remain a valid concern for years” (VIDEO)

Published: November 22nd, 2013 at 12:48 pm ET
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Lake Barrett, former U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission official and now an adviser to Tepco, March 30, 2011 (at 36:00 in): The environmental release is the growing challenge; you’re going to read more and more about it in the paper.  Wait until the first cesium-137 shows up in Alaska salmon, which is only a matter of time. You’re going to find it right back in the headlines.

Watch Barrett’s presentation here

Congressional Research Service, 2012: As it approaches the west coast of North America, the North Pacific Current splits into the southward California Current and the northward Alaska Current. Although these currents have the potential for bringing radiation from Japan’s Fukushima Daiichi nuclear accident to U.S. waters, their flow is slow [...] Regardless of the slow flow, radioactive contaminants with long half-lives (e.g., cesium-137, with a half-life of about 30 years) could still pose concerns if transported over long distances by ocean currents. [...] Scientists at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution advised that radiation levels in seafood should continue to be monitored [...] there remains the slight potential for a relatively narrow corridor of highly contaminated water leading away from Japan and a very patchy distribution of contaminated fish―extensive monitoring will determine the exact dispersion of these radioactive contaminants. [...] It has been suggested that cesium-137 may move up the food chain and become concentrated in fish muscle or that radiation hot spots may occur. Another potential concern is related to accumulation of strontium-90 in fish bone [...] additional radiation from [Fukushima] might eventually also be detected in North Pacific waters under U.S. jurisdiction, even months after its release. Regardless of slow ocean transport, the long half-life of radioactive cesium isotopes means that radioactive contaminants could remain a valid concern for years.

See also: Governor: We're closely watching Fukushima radiation threat in Alaska -- Effort underway to monitor fish with U.S. military and homeland defense (AUDIO)

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44 comments to Tepco Adviser: Wait until Alaska salmon is found with Fukushima contamination, it’s only a matter of time — US Gov’t Report: “Radiation hot spots may occur… radioactive contaminants could remain a valid concern for years” (VIDEO)

  • Time Is Short Time Is Short

    I've read that the salmon now are too weak to go back upriver, which means extinction (no spawning), and I've read the salmon are doing better than they have for years.

    Anyone with local info?


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  • jec jec

    Someone has got to TEST them first. So far, very silent on testing and any results….on purpose???


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  • jahdesm jahdesm

    wtf. danish medisin company cant produce medisin from alaska salmon the medisin was made from salmons roe cause it is too radioactive this happened year ago. i know it because my brother is working there and told me


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  • Alpha1

    I Alexandra Morton’s Blog, Oct. 11, 2013: [...] The sockeye returns to the Skeena watershed in northern British Columbia crashed this year. This was completely unexpected. Sockeye salmon returns have plunged to historic lows in the Skeena River system of northwestern British Columbia, forcing drastic, never-before-imposed fishing closures. [...] massive numbers were dying before spawning. This is a Fraser sockeye problem. This is called prespawn mortality (PSM). [...] Now, the Skeena sockeye appear to be exhibiting a similar characteristic. [...] On the first day we came across a First Nation fishery and found pink salmon that were a deep, canary yellow [...] parts of their hearts are yellow, their gill arches and spines are yellow, the cartilage in their head is yellow. Their spleens are swollen and enlarged, and their livers are spotted. In some cases their eyes were bugged out. Guys who have fished this region their whole lives told me they have seen the occasional yellow salmon over the years, but never in the numbers seen this year. [...]

    Alexandra Morton’s Facebook Page, Oct. 5, 2013: Because so many people have asked me about radiation I bought a gieger counter and took it to the river today – all the readings indicated normal background levels. I am no expert on this and so I am only reporting on what the equipment reported.

    Bloomberg News, April 3, 2011: Geiger Counters Unlikely to Detect Radiation in Food

    Chilliwack Progress, Oct. 18, 2011: Yellow-tinged…


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    • jec jec

      To check the salmon themselves, you needs special dosimeter. Background in the air, probably will be okay, its the tissue that carries the poison. So testing background is good, but the bio accumulation will not show up from that.

      Sorry, I know because we are trying with various projects to determine the Fukushima radiation contamination in the Pacific. And yes, sent materials to Ken B at Woods Hole, with a duplicate material sent to a private lab (just in case). Both tested the same, not significant for radiation. Whatever triggered the dosimeter badges, must have been in the environment, not in the materials sent to the laboratories. So sending the materials was useless as that was not the trigger. We know the badges trigger on high radiation. Bikini Atoll, host to atomic tests, triggers badges. Its frustrating to say the least if the US government or world governments do not monitor and test to protect the citizens.


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  • Alpha1

    May we get into things that are news here like the truth and not conflicting evidences that show this is a big charade being played to keep men hypnotized and off key guard it is just like the numbers that everyone has been posting get a calculator and check them. Let’s do some simple math to check Nuclear statistics.
    Also, we will compare TEPCO’s laughable numbers.

    These are facts:
    Water is poured on to a melting core is 30,000 gallons per minute – scientific estimation during emergency meltdown
    – 7 pounds is the weight of a gallon of water.
    – 210,000 pounds of water flow per minute
    – 2,000 pounds equal one ton
    TOTAL WEIGHT of ONE MINUTE of water flowing over a melted core is 105 tons.

    So, the one-hour flow is equal to 6,300 tons of water flow.
    – 151,200 tons of water flow per 24-hour day, 7 days week.
    – 1,058,400 tons of water flow in a 7-day week.
    In one year, 55,036,800 TONS of water flow over ONE reactor.

    Then in one year, 165,110,400 TONS OF WATER FLOW OVER THE THREE MELTED CORES.

    There are 3.5 million tons of water in a cubic mile of ocean.
    To keep it simple –
    – 50 cubic miles of water is run over the 3 melted cores a year.

    TEPCO says that 400 tons water flows over 3 melted cores in a day.
    They are only off by 5,900 tons of water flowing per day over one melted core.
    Or added together – 17,700 tons of water flowing over 3 melted cores!

    So they are also saying that 146,000 tons a year are flowing into the Pacific. They are only off…


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  • Nick

    Wouldn't it be great if we used our federal tax-dollars to TEST imported food from Japan?

    Wouldn't it make sense to ALSO test marine life up and down the West Coast?

    The tests should not just be for strontium-90 and Cesium-137, but ALL of the daughter isotopes and
    Uranium as well as……dare I say it?….. Plutonium.

    Regardless of what levels they find, NONE of these radioactive atoms are okay. Never. Not no how. Not no way.

    I know fishermen who fish for salmon in Bristol Bay, AK.

    Cesium and whatever else in those fish would NOT be good. Especially if it means lower catches.


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  • Socrates

    The government agencies protect multinational corporations more than US citizens.

    Why do people believe otherwise. The system of profits of multinationals is what is being protected in my opinion.

    I have worked in consumer protection for 36 years…. I might know what I am talking about. Then again, I might be pulling your leg.


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  • pkjn

    "Chernobyl Was Transparent Compared to Fukushima": Harvey Wasserman on Ongoing Crisis
    19 November 2013 Truthout
    The information we were getting this summer included revelations that 300 tons of toxic water leaked in one week, and then in other news, the fact that 300 tons are leaking into the Pacific daily.
    Every day, and this is for two and half years now, and there is no end in sight. It could go on for 50 years. We've already detected radiation from Fukushima off of the coast of Alaska. There was a study of 15 tuna caught off the coast of California; out of the 15 tuna caught, 15 had radiation from Fukushima.
    You wouldn't want to eat this tuna. Radiation in even small doses, cesium, strontium, iodine, will bio-accumulate. If you get a relatively small dose into some seaweed, fish will come; they will eat enough seaweed that it will be significant; they will be eaten up the food chain; we're at the top of the food chain.
    http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/20116-chernobyl-was-transparent-compared-to-fukushima-harvey-wasserman-on-the-ongoing-crisis


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  • Alpha1

    well you get the pint however I know what water weight is just thought we would see who is listening and who is really there that pays that much attention thank you for that and hello.


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  • weeman

    If you are a commercial fisherman on the west coast, better find a new line of employment or be prepared to migrate, lucky you you have the equipment to move to southern hemisphere and your new job will be to transport people to the southern hemisphere.


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  • Alpha1

    so lets get real with it math not off was rounded but lets see it is a bit much Let’s do some simple math to check Nuclear statistics.
    Also, we will compare TEPCO’s laughable numbers.

    These are facts:
    Water is poured on to a melting core is 30,000 gallons per minute – scientific estimation during emergency meltdown
    – 8.3 pounds is the weight of a gallon of water.
    – 249,000 pounds of water flow per minute
    – 2,000 pounds equal one ton
    TOTAL WEIGHT of ONE MINUTE of water flowing over a melted core is 124.5 tons.

    So, the one-hour flow is equal to 7470 tons of water flow.
    – 179280 tons of water flow per 24-hour day, 7 days week.
    – 1,254,960 tons of water flow in a 7-day week.
    In one year, 62,2257,920 TONS of water flow over ONE reactor.

    Then in one year, 195,773,760 TONS OF WATER FLOW OVER THE THREE MELTED CORES.

    There are 3.5 million tons of water in a cubic mile of ocean.
    To keep it simple –
    – 55.93 cubic miles of water is run over the 3 melted cores a year.

    TEPCO says that 400 tons water flows over 3 melted cores in a day.
    They are only off by 5,900 tons of water flowing per day over one melted core.
    Or added together – 17,700 tons of water flowing over 3 melted cores!

    So they are also saying that 146,000 tons a year are flowing into the Pacific. They are only off 54,890,800 tons a year of water flowing.

    Even if we cut my numbers by 50%, their numbers ARE STILL not based in any reality!


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    • Alpha1, I believe what you are talking about is the cooling system water flow @ 17,700 tons a day. The 400 tons per day figure is what Tepco claims is the underground river or groundwater that is flowing down from the mountains, under the plant and into the ocean. Because the cooling system is pouring water on melted through containment cores in an earthquake damaged building, that cooling water is leaking through basement foundation cracks as is groundwater leaking in and out of these basements. The groundwater is mixing with the coolant water but the 400 to 600 tons per day figure is the groundwater figure and your 17,700 number is the coolant water. Also as where the coriums are is a big mystery many including myself feel that perhaps the groundwater is in direct contact with melted coriums or parts thereof. However only Tepco knows the rate of the leak as they know how much water they are adding to the cooling system. Just think of an old car with a leaking rad and if you put a jug of antifreeze in the radiator every day you would know your rad is leaking a gallon per day. As with an auto cooling system, the nuke power plant system should be a leak free closed system that leaks nothing when operating properly. Obviously after earthquake, tsunami and meltdown dammage the system leaks and it is super high radiation that no one can go near so fixing leaks are out of the question. Thank you for your input. Peace


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      • Also please note that while some waste radiated water tanks on site contain water pumped out of basements which had radiated water from initial disaster, most of the tanks contain recovered coolant water that cannot be used as they can only filter cesium out of the water and so the strontium isn't filtered and accumulates as water recirculates through the system until there is too much strontium in water for it to be used, will clog up pumps and valves in cooling system, therefore it gets stored in the ever expanding tank farm. So they are always monitoring the cooling system and know for sure how much coolant is leaking into the ground and the groundwater or underground river. All we can do is guess as TEPCO does not want or needs to release this info and O'bummer and Canadian clown Harpo and the rest of the Idiocracy are OK with that.


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  • Kennedy's murder, and the nuclear industry have a connection through the Economic Hitman.

    If you have never seen this Kennedy speech, its worth listening too. Speech, transcript, and interpretation are here.

    http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2013/11/kennedy-was-killed-for-trying-to-expose.html

    The question of "who killed Kennedy" is a false argument, distractionary. It doesn't matter who pulled the trigger(s), the Economic Hitman hit Kennedy. The powers that be that profit from big projects and control, hit him.


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  • 富岡_Blue_Heron 富岡_Blue_Heron

    But if Mark is correct (and his worldview is convincing in my book), TPTB have determined via their amoral cost/benefit and military analyses that nuclear power *will* continue – on through generations of innocents born until they ain't born no more to pay the bills, fight the wars, drive the taxis. The Economic Hitman: what an interesting premise…. How do the Mark Zuckerbergs of the world manage to swim with sharks without getting crushed?


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  • Nick

    We worry about terrorists. We spend trillions fighting the GWOT.

    But zip on testing for Fukushima's terror able (sic) toxins.

    Go figure.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Haven't touched seafood since March 2011, and still alive!


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  • I am not in any way involved in this company and only provide this link for general information. But this is the cheapest way to detect Cesium and other types of gamma emmitting isotopes. $300 plus a lead box and an iPad. If testing fish or any other foodstuff you need to dry the fish as water sheilds radiation. Don't think you get accurate amounts just a energy value that is accurate enough to say cesium 137 or other gamma isotopes are present. If I had more disposable income and an iPad I would probably buy one.

    Peace

    http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/IMetry_en


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    • Thanks for sharing. Blueness connects some interesting dots, especially regarding Gorbachev and Chernobyl.


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    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Very meaty piece. :)

      Bobby has a question:
      Sir, are we being exterminated?
      Yes Bobby!
      Sir, why and what is exterminating all life here on Planet Earth?
      Nuclear Power & Weapons!
      Bobby?
      Yes sir?
      Do you have any other questions?
      No sir, shall I report to the incinerator #4?
      No Bobby, you must sign up and go through the health care system first for proper documentation.
      Yes sir, of course sir, I will sign up right away!


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  • jec jec

    'Radiation hot spots'..right. Its not consistent contamination, all products need to be tested..ALL not a sample. What is the EPA and/or FDA doing to test the products from the oceans? From Japan? Note I say products..its not just food..take an item with radiation contamination, let the dust get into your lungs…or on your hands or body..and you too can have hot particles. Its bio accumulation at its worse..and worse because the world governments are all working together to keep citizens from finding out~

    Anyone wonder why the big push to get USA health insurance in place with Obamacare with coverage for previous existing conditions? What insurance company would agree to insure families whose children could become cancer victims in a year or two? Or insure people who have been exposed to radiation hot particles of PU? Hate to say it, could it be on purpose? Is the silence on the disaster is to get companies to pay for the diseases caused by Fukushimas/Japans radiation fallout? A terrible thought.


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  • Shaker1

    That's an interesting thought, jec. Personally, I had simply thought that was some proactive method to stave off what would truly be single-payer to keep the (unnecessary) insurance companies, drug manufacturers, and corporate providers with their profits in the game at least at the level at which it is now. The lobbying in Congress itself on behalf of these interests is worth a number of fortunes. But this brings another dimension to the thinking.

    It strikes me as funny the contradictions with a program like Obamacare. First is the fact that well-developed countries have functioning single-payer and they left the US in the dust regarding the overall health of their populations and lag far behind cost per person. Second is that we elect these people to setup and manage the spending of 1T/yr and they claim that they can't manage single-payer for all kinds of reasons except the fact that they simply aren't good managers, certainly aren't objective managers, and make no effort to curtail offenses to even their bad management. Some of these poor managers the public has employed (elected) for decades. Why can't we reasonably manage the overall costs of healthcare?

    One thing that impressed me rising to the level of making personel decisions was that I fired more people because they were uncompromising asses while never questioning their outright competence to do the job. They simply lost focus of why they were there in the first place and what they were there for.


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  • paschn

    I don't understand the irrational fears etc. in the icon of moral/democratic, the United States. Where's the problem? A few simple steps and the horror is handled;

    1.) USDA, FDA, EPA form a committee, call in some objective experts from, say General Electric et al.

    2.) Form an accurate, insanely expensive way to remove the problem, give the no bid to Bechtel or Halliburton and, (after "the boys" are paid in full).

    3. Under cover of media, simply change laws (quietly), raise the "safe" level of radiation a few thousand percent, warn all the health care giants to begin implementing "exclusions" for say… "illness caused by radiation exposure".

    4. Problem "solved"! BONUS! the unemployment rate would REALLY take a nose-dive which would be good for all those wonderful/moral incumbents, no?
    Do things like that really happen…. In Bizarro World?


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  • isogoodhumans

    Bristol Bay, AK is the richest salmon run in the world. If those fish are contaminated, what a loss to industry, and how much contamination are consumers getting?

    http://www.vitapect.org


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