Tepco Advisor Blasts Tepco: “You do not know what you’re doing” — Japan Times: Time for gov’t to take over at Fukushima Daiichi? (VIDEO)

Published: July 26th, 2013 at 12:21 pm ET
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AFP, July 26, 2013: Foreign nuclear experts on Friday blasted the operator of Japan’s crippled Fukushima nuclear plant, with one saying its lack of transparency over toxic water leaks showed “you don’t know what you’re doing”. [...] “appears that you are not keeping the people of Japan informed. These actions indicate that you don’t know what you are doing…you do not have a plan and that you are not doing all you can to protect the environment and the people.” [said Dale Klein, Former NRC Chairman and Tepco advisory committee member]

Japan Times, July 26, 2013: Time to take over Daiichi? [...] This recent series of incidents should be the canary in the coal mine telling us that Fukushima No. 1 remains vulnerable and unstable. [...] it is time for the NRA and the Japanese government to seriously consider directly taking control of Fukushima No. 1. [...]

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  • lickerface lickerface

    What Ben Bernanke should do is.. DOH! I thought I was reading about the Federal Reserve and their lack of plan. My bad…

    I thought the government had control of this situation the whole time. Something is changing big-time for this piece of distraction to come out. When the fingers start pointing old news for the misinformed demographic of readers, something bigger is about to come out. The Japanese government runs the media (or vice versa, whatever, they're connected), and for the media to even publish that the "NRA and the Japanese government to seriously consider directly taking control of Fukushima No. 1" is further playing on the notion that gov and media are separate entities. This is all white noise and just a way for the gov to look like it's own inability to come up with a plan was actually a private company's (TEPCO) was manning the sinking ship this whole time. Nobody will fall for this.


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      excellent points lickerface…


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      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        From ZeroHedge:

        "On a nuclear decay timeline, they're just getting 'warmed' up.

        Very soon, it will be impossible for humans to work on-site, what little cooling is left will fail, and it will turn into an all-out complete site nuclear fire that will last centuries.

        Pull up a chair. It will all be broadcast in living color."


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        • Teddi Teddi

          I like ZH – good source for info.

          They had a article awhile back about Shinzo Abe making the decision to print and inject $2-3 trillion (USD) into Japan's market in order to stimulate the economy as opposed to dealing with the Fuku disaster.

          They concluded Fuku would take north of $5+ trillion and that expenditure [or perception of obligation] would collapse the economy. So they copied the Bernanke approach…

          ..how will that decision be looked back upon I wonder ?


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        • jump-ball

          In contrast, people and governments and companies who do know what gargantuan financial and physical effort is required in a major nuclear containment and decommissioning project have raised the necessary $1 BIL + financing and are just a year away from completing the 300' high by 500' wide by 750' long, 22000 ton Novarka Arch that will be slid on rails over to enclose the Chernobyl unit 4, so that decommissioning by the American contractor can begin.

          Japan, Tepco and involved authorities have made no such efforts at all in the far greater, more ultimately damaging Fukushima disaster, and arguing over the merits of the Tepco water-cooling charade almost makes one a party to the crime.

          In five years the heroic containment of Chernobyl and the probable extinction level event contamination emanating from Japan will make the multi-year Fukushima corruption and neglect appallingly evident, albeit too late to act upon.

          The degree of containment needed in Fukushima, if not the type, can be easily searched and seen, as below, and none of it involves ongoing discussions of water-cooling mismanagement:

          http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&q=novarka+arch&oq=novarka+arch&gs_l=hp.12..0i22i30l4.1796.5855.0.15881.12.12.0.0.0.1.649.2717.0j9j0j1j1j1.12.0….0…1c.1.22.psy-ab..1.11.2004.bjL8ceDr0Eo&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.49784469,d.cGE&fp=b1876c0764e2f22f&biw=1024&bih=744


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    • LegionNetworkCH

      TEPCO should stop this insane quantitative easing; they are contaminating all the markets in the world!

      New and increasingly short-lived radio-MBS have been detected in the western OTC derivative megapool.

      P.S. BTFB = Buy the fucking Becquerel!


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      • Teddi Teddi

        IMHO – The best thing that could happen [in the grand scheme] would be for the Yen to collapse. Many think it should have already done so, but my point is that if the Japanese economy collapses…

        ..they will turn outward [using Fuku as an excuse] and seek help from the world to stabilize and rebuild. This would at least open the door for a chance at triage with the disaster.

        Otherwise, they will paint over it such that it doesn't [via perception] take down their economy.


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  • dka

    TEPCO does not have enough money to protect people.
    It is almost bankrupt.
    It is ridiculous to accuse TEPCO.
    It is the government role to make sure that TEPCO has enough money and does what it needs to do to protect the people and the environment. Hopefully, this finger pointing will alert voters to request their government to act properly.


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    • We Not They Finally

      Either that, or we can delegate YOU to go talk directly to Shinzo Abe, who will be shocked-shocked-shocked at what TEPCO has done, promptly agree that nuclear power is bad, and the government will admit this ELE to the world, and hurry up and fix it.

      Or maybe we can send little Alice….


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  • We have all the data:

    http://s1280.photobucket.com/user/Pattie_Brassard/slideshow/Nuke-Quakes/Space_Sat_Data

    It's already desalinated the Pacific, killed the bottom life, and so there isn't any oxygen down there now.. disease due to mutations are going rampant! The life.. like coral etc:… holds down the carbon & methane hydrates… WE KNOW THIS NOW !!! There is no need for any damned study!

    I was thinking a slurry of boron, Vegemite, Pu-240, and SAND.. to seal around it.. and use some liquid OTHER than WATER to get it down the hole.. Adapt a oil-drill rigs UAV for land..? Need to get a pipe into it to do such…? Use a silicate type fluid.. to seal the sides of the hole as well..? It's my best guess as to how to do some remediation on these things. We can't stop it fully anymore.


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  • BirdOfTheFeather BirdOfTheFeather

    Dale Klein, Former NRC Chairman and Tepco advisory committee member just figured this out ,,, Prove's a pack of idiots are in charge at the NRC


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Neither party and/or Tepco/Government and/or Science/Technology have any clue what to do and this ongoing Radiation Contamination Event will "never be resolved" in any of our lifetimes.

    Mankind has created three (3) out of control "mini suns" that will never be extinguished and many more such Radiation Disasters/Events are on the way and on mankind's horizon and "these will occur" in our lifetimes.

    This is exactly what happens when progress moves to quickly without proper knowledge and/or proper risk factors being properly vetted in public forums.

    Nuclear has always been secretive and has always been shoved down all our human throats so that others could make massive profits behind the scenes.


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    • Enlite2.0

      To what end, though? What does all their money matter if as a result of their actions they create an ELE? It just doesn't make sense!

      As humans are 1/3 'human' cells and 2/3 'other'- is it possible that those with the 'correct' 2/3 will not be as negatively affected by the radiation as those without?

      Certain fungi, bacteria and virus actually thrive in radioactive environments. This- this is what I wonder about. Is it possible that some possess a greater quantity of those that thrive? Is this the true 1%?


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      • Enlite2.0

        I can't help but think this is why so much emphasis was placed on eating healthy. It's not just for your cells, but your microbiome.

        Too much processed foods building false receptors on cells, starving you of actually nutrition, while packing on pounds like a cluttered attic or garage.

        This video packs so much information into a tiny package, it can really change the way you perceive 'you'. Meditation unifies the communication. Almost a 'hack' into the system that actually runs you, the organic machine.

        http://www.ted.com/talks/bonnie_bassler_on_how_bacteria_communicate.html


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    • nedlifromvermont

      that sums it up nicely, Obewan!

      Question: Is the Force with us or with the Nuclearists??

      Off to see Master Yoda … Luke! I am your … oh fahgettaboutit …


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  • wetpwcas1 wetpwcas1

    Is it true that the CMA will require all fish/seafood to be tested for radiation before being sold on the markets? If true it means a heck of a lot of ppl will have some explaining to do from the EPA all the way down to privately owned companies who are supposed to ensure food safety! Any info about this would really help to expose the cover ups by our own gov!


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Your entire government (s) is just one huge coverup! Wake up! They are part and parcel to the problem and always have been.

    A massive collective that "by law" removes/takes your money and does what they want with it without your approval is not a government responsible to the citizen/slaves they "by law" control.

    They are simply a Cabal….you have "no government" my friend.


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    • nedlifromvermont

      Obewan? Are you talking about the American government or the Japanese government …. or are you talking about the World government, also known as the IAEA to which the not-powerful WHO is a curly lap poodle (no poodle slur intended) ?

      Honestly confused here in Vermont!

      peace …


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  • dosdos dosdos

    The phrase "canary in the coal mine" should read "the hardened glob of what was once rotted flesh and feathers that once was the canary in the coal mine". It's looooooong past time…


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  • dajson dajson

    It was time for the government to take over years ago now. By now it should have become an internatioinal effort to contain this extreemly dangerous threat to life on Earth. WTF


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  • AntonButler

    Nobody can trust the United nations WHY, it commits perjury.
    The United Nations’ International Agency for Research on Cancer has said that there are more likely to be 16,000 deaths from Chernobyl while the Russian academy of sciences claims that to date there have been at least 140,000 deaths in Ukraine and Belarus and 60,000 in Russia. The Ukrainian national commission for radiation puts the figure much higher at 500,000.
    Do not trust the IAEA,


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    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      Not to mention the millions of dead infants. There hasn't been an honest Infant Mortality Rate number published in Europe since Chernobyl blew.

      Also not to mention the women/girls that got abortions worried about their sick/mutated babies. They count, too.


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      • nedlifromvermont

        … but … but … the religious right in the US is adamantly opposed to abortion … but they march in lock-step with the nuclear baby killers … I don't get it … my head is hurting … so abortion, bad, but 'infanticide through actinide release' is okay … I can't square this riddle .. guess I'll have to go back to college and take a course on this puzzle … maybe I'll try MIT, because that is where they showed how to fudge the numbers to make their nuclearist paymasters happy and innocent looking … no really … it's called the Rasmussen Report (also known as (White-) Wash 2000) report … and they fudged the mathematics known as finite math, to give an invented and spurious "probabalistic study" … which showed that what happened at Fukushima simply could not happen, so all fake scientists at MIT simply are unable to handle the truth, and they have no need to, as they are awash in Bernie Madoff fictitious profit payouts courtesy of the Florida fraudster gut who was found floating face down in his pricey swimming pool … I forget the name, begins with a 'P' … but I can look it up later …

        peace …


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    • IPPNW – Health Effects of Chernobyl 25 Years After The Reactor Catastrophe (69 million casualties); via @AGreenRoad
      http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/07/ippnw-health-effects-of-chernobyl-25.html


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  • Kassandra

    The international community is finally waking up to the significance of the Fukushima disaster.

    Can the powers-that-be squelch the resurgent discussion?

    Or, has the problem become impossible to deny?

    I think the latter situation prevails and that finally a bigger response may be launched.

    Front and center MUST be

    1. EVACUATION of people from the most contaminated areas IMMEDIATELY

    2. WIDESPREAD and THOROUGH TESTING for contamination in air, fresh water, sea water, soil, food, etc.

    3. ACCOUNTABILITY and TRANSPARENCY. The lies must end. People must be told how to take steps to reduce/mitigate their exposure. Government and corporations must act in the public interest to protect our future on earth.

    It may be the case that little can be done to stop the event-chains now occurring at Daiichi. Even so, the steps above can and should be taken to reduce short term harm and suffering.


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      all good suggestions Kassandra…


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    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      The world is waking up to Fukushima, Kassandra. The problem is that there is no 'bigger' response to be made. This isn't a solvable issue.

      The military term is 'shelter in place'. Translated, it means 'die in place'. There will be no evacuation of anyone, anywhere.

      It's up to us individually how we choose to live our last days.


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      • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

        there are long-term alternatives TIS. Problem is, unless they promise some immediate benefit to the individual, they're ignored. So now we've reached the stage where denial succumbs to the acceptance. And what's most infuriating is how this complacency is fobbed-off on those who had nothing to do with this deadly technology…


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        • Kassandra

          I refuse to face a future of 'The Road.'

          I think we can do this a whole lot better than we are.

          We may not be capable of stopping Daiichi, Hanford, etc.

          But we sure are capable of mitigating harms against individuals and of promoting healthier adaptations to a crashing eco-system.

          Our leaders – governments, corporations, universities – must help lead the way because mitigation requires separating people from the most contaminated radiation sources. That will require coordinated large-scale action.

          Russia proved it could be done on a smaller scale. We can do it bigger and better if nations cooperated.

          The first step forward is public acknowledgment that we have a a major problem and that government/industry/academe are going to do everything in their power to fix and mitigate.


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          • nedlifromvermont

            why would they bother, when the "Rapture" is dialed in for next Sunday???? Seriously now???? Methinks they care not, that they are but a bunch of Hobbyhorses (prostitutes) …

            if this be nothing …. etc.


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        • dharmasyd dharmasyd

          Kubler-Ross' 5 stages of grief: Here's an article applying these stages to the Japanese since 3/11/11. But I think it is time to start applying these stages to humankind in the light of our dual (possible / probable) ELE events.

          With Climate Change, we have been told a number; scientists have figured 350 degrees to be the point of no return. Unfortuantely, perhaps, we have no efinitive number or numbers for when the mutative qualities of radionucleides damages the gene pool to the extent that…..~~~

          We have no number. We simply do not know.


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          • nedlifromvermont

            it's 350 parts per million of carbon atoms in our atmosphere … we're past 400 now and zooming to 500 … 1 carbon atom for every 2000 atoms of air … numbers are so hard to grasp, sometimes … (not 350 degrees)

            Net result: it's long past time to start removing spent fuel and active loadings at Florida's Turkey Point Nuclear Power Park, 6,000 acres of sandy, marshy shoreline in Homestead, Florida, with an average elevation of approximately two feet above mean sea level … I mean come on now … CA Coffin would not have put up with this kind of recklessness, and he was a founder of Florida Power and Light …

            Whom do you think you are fooling????

            We are so fukued!!


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  • oyamajin

    [REMOVED; See #4 below]


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  • Tumrgrwer Tumrgrwer

    Yikes oyamjin, did any of that get one you? It might stain.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    May people are now dying prematurely and these numbers will grow exponentially in the future.. thanks to Fukushima.

    Enenewsers are on the leading edge…call it what you will.
    http://www.sott.net/article/264363-Thousands-of-unexplained-and-unexpected-deaths-among-elderly-revealed-in-leaked-Government-analysis

    Another good site and they know their country is part of this Nuclear Technology problem too!
    http://antinuclear.net/


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    • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

      My, my, PattieB, what a treasure this document is!
      "3/12 15:35 Debris Most reach the sandstone layer of 200m under penetrate the mud rock of foundation ground and reinforced concrete shield. Steam explosion in the sandstone layer."
      And that is just for starters. Great find, Pattie. Recommend all Newsers read the avobe link today. Every word. :)


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    • irhologram

      Patti! This is an extraordinary link! I had asked RE: tsunami vs. EQ damage, what did the NPP data show? Was it released? If not, why was it not released? From the link: TEPCO, does not expose the data of 3/11 19:30 previously for water level and pressure of the reactor.
      Further, it does not expose the data in the 3/19 06:30 previously also temperature data.
      Therefore, no choice but to guess situation immediately after the accident.

      I SEE now RE: many of your points. They are NOT assumptions. Everyone should take the time to read this entire chart SEVERAL times, if that's what it takes to understand this very relevant information DETAILING the sequence of events, which we here seem to think we have to guess at. Why? The data is there. We have only to open the link.


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      • irhologram

        Incredible site. Its,live linked. Click through to all kinds of stats we didn't think we had, like reports, apparently from comprehensive aircraft monitoring, wind speed and detailed scatter path of Xenon and iodine, reports from the Japanese Meteorological Society…vast data on what happened and exposure. How could anyone MISS that? Now my questions. Why is this a dairy website? Who is this man and what is his background to have compiled this comprehensive data base? What kind of following does his blog have in Japan?


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  • weeman

    Don't just talk about it make it so, now.


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    • Jebus Jebus

      I agree, It ain't happening this way. We are all fucking wimps.
      We aint anything near anti nuclear activists.
      Oh, don't hurt anyones feelings. Be nice now.
      You dissagreed with me, Ima gonna go cry.
      It's a fucking joke in every aspect.
      I found the this or that. no you didn't I did.
      It's to fucking late for that.
      Until we get our pathetic asse's together and make some very loud noise, we are doomed and nuclear power will continue on while our lives rot, from the fear of actually standing up and screaming, hell no.


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  • mungo mungo

    Water in a pit on the grounds of the crippled Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant has been found to contain high levels of radioactive substances, the plant operator said July 27.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    oyamajin,

    So we have a bunch of twelve year olds that now have 50+ plus nuclear reactors sitting on the most unstable piece of property/real estate found on Planet Earth and we here do not recognize the problem?

    I see… the entire world… must now be packed with only a bunch of twelve year olds including your buddies.

    All these billions of 12 year olds running around our planet have now made their beds and sadly they will all be sleeping in them very soon.

    I guess we can all grab our crotches and/or other body parts on the way out…


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  • Oyamajin "the great" joins the very few commentators that have had their comments removed. Probably the first to whine about it so much.
    We all bow down to your superior intellect and are fascinated how you can reduce the complexity of a triple meltdown to name calling. Brilliant. A nation of 12 year olds. Surely words that will bring great minds together and foster the environment of cooperation and empathy while setting the appropriate tone this disaster needs.
    Sure. And why not stop there. Why not name call the whole bloody bunch of posters here who obviously care about this issue and have more then average knowledge of this disaster. "The "touchy feely" self-introspective LIBTARDS on this site make me sick, along with their censorship twigboy delete button operators." More brilliance.
    Obviously a comment like that really shows how hard Oyamijin is willing to work to bring us all together to fight the good fight.
    The last thing any of us would think is that Oyamijin is somehow trying to disrupt this site from discussion of the above story on a political commentator for a Japanese newspaper calling for Tepco management to be removed and government to take charge of the mess.
    Oyamijin thank you for taking the time to visit us and bestow your great intellect on our collective reality. Thank you for being just you.


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  • Sickputer

    +311 Mark.

    When the news is terribly grim from Daiichi (like this week and so many weeks in the past 870 days since the nuclear complex went out of control) we see disruptive posters. They can't stand to see their nuclear industry in such dire straits so they deflect the real news into an assault on the Enenewsers.

    The thing is they will never escape the verdict of history. Historical records will one day denote the date March 11, 2011 as one of the defining moments of the human race. 311 will make 911 pale in comparison.

    Humans will either reclaim their planet from the nucleorats or we will all descend into scattered pockets of diseased mutants.

    Surprisingly, Japan has been down this road of industrial poison before, but this time the other four major industrial tragedies pale in comparison.

    Many intellectuals know of Minamata "disease", but for proper Japanese historical perspective it
    is worth a look back at the Big Four pollution disasters in Japan:

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Big_Pollution_Diseases_of_Japan


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    nedlifromvermont,

    All government (s) is a scam…and I mean all of it.

    Have you looked around at what we humans call.. good government?

    200 years does not make for a good government and/or automatically make any government good.

    Most of the problems we find in this world today have been created by….government (s).

    Government is simply another name for controller and how is that working out for the world in general so far?


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Who approved 50+ Nuclear Reactors on the most unstable piece of land/real estate found on Planet Earth?

    You, me, our was it government?

    Who approved 100+ Nuclear Reactors here in the USA?

    Should I go on?

    Controllers yield massive power behind the scenes inside the "Land of OZ" they attempt to create for us citizens/slaves/sheep.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    oyamajin,

    Thanks for catching the missing "N" and correcting my grammar but these Nuclear boys and girls have lost and have how many tons of hot radioactive fuel missing?

    I will take a missing "N" anytime over this Nuclear Radiation Contamination fiasco and just think maybe most of us still alive on Planet Earth will soon not even be able to type and/or even speak if all goes as planned.


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