Published: January 2nd, 2012 at 5:55 pm ET
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*UPDATE* EX-SKF has a translation of Tepco’s press release: Fukushima Reactor 4 Skimmer Surge Tank Latest: Earthquake Caused the Water to Go from SFP to Reactor Well Instead, Says TEPCO
“Tepco officially admitted the decreasing water level of the tank at reactor 4 was caused by the earthquake on 1/1/2012. (Source) Tepco states the water did not flow into the tank from water cooling system but flew into the container vessel in stead. However they still have not announced they managed to fixed the broken part of the reactor.” -Fukushima Diary
Mainichi Shimbun, January 2, 2012:
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Headline: <1 Fukushima nuclear power plant> No. 4 tank drawdown effects of earthquakes and announced …
TEPCO two days, the water level decreased by more than one day of the tank adjacent to the spent fuel pool of the first nuclear power plant Unit 4, Fukushima, said the cause, effects of earthquakes announced four largest intensity observed in northeastern Kanto was. TEPCO, flows into the opposite side of the reactor containment tank of radioactive contamination in pool water, and found that it caused by loss of water supply to the tank from a temporary pool. The cooling effect of the pool, he said.
According to TEPCO, the tank water level is usually about 1.6 inches per hour, such as reduced natural evaporation, after the earthquake, were down by 8-9 cm per hour. Polluted water in the tank is removed from heat and dust through the filter and an external heat exchanger and returned to the pool again.
Babelfish Translation
Headline: < Fukushima 1st nuclear plant > 4 machine tank water level decrease…Influence of earthquake it announces
As for Tokyo Electric Power on the 2nd, Fukushima 1st nuclear plant 4 water level of the tank where it adjoins to the used nuclear fuel pool of the machine decreased 1 days abnormally, cause announced the same day, influence of the earthquake which observed largest seismic intensity 4 in Kanto northeast district. As for Tokyo Electric Power Company, the radioactive contamination water inside the pool flows into to the containment vessel side of opposite side to the tank, it sees as cause that supply of the water to the tank stops temporarily from the pool. As for influence you call to cooling the pool that it is not.
According to Tokyo Electric Power Company, water level of the tank with such as usually about 1.6 centimeters decreases per hour natural evaporation, but after the earthquake, per hour by 8~9 centimeter it had gone down. As for the contaminated water inside the tank passing by the heat exchanger and the filter of external, heat and the rubbish are removed, are reset to the pool again.
Published: January 2nd, 2012 at 5:55 pm ET
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Although we don’t know what else we may find out “down the road,” so to speak, I’d like to give the TEPCO PR Dept. a medal for it’s speediest reporting of information to date!
Now lets wait to see what they left out. Prove my skepticism wrong, TEPCO.
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Thank you admin, once again you are on top of these reports!
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If the shaking was strong enough to slosh water through pipes from one tank to another, might it also have done a bit more structural damage? This is pretty odd physics to me. I would have expected that if one tank decreased in water because the water flowed out through agitation action, then the receiving tank water level would have risen equally by volume. Does anybody know if that happened? Is that how they arrived at this interesting explanation? I agree with dharmasyd. What’s missing here? And, just one more thought. I also would have expected the pipes, if allowed to communicate so freely between tanks, would have had valves to prevent the very backflow they attribute as the discrepancy for the changing water level. So, TEPCO is saying there was no spill. Just water exchange. But, isn’t the tank suppose to be a one direction flow taking contaminated water out, stripping it of radiation, then rerouting it through a different pipe back into the SFP? Ok, I gotta say one more thing. Wouldn’t the water have stopped lowering in the suspect tank once the shaking stopped if it was just a matter of shaking forcing water to flow? Why would the water continue to flow out if nothing was forcing it to flow out?
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they have some type of a sluice gate setup, not just pipes, methinks, never saw a really good diagram.
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Whew! Another Stick Save.
AND I found out some great news, I was using the U-234 column instead of the U-238 column, and when I calculate using the U-238 data, I get much lower numbers for Tons of Uranium Aerosolized.
In fact instead of 286 tons, I find that the max was probably a measly 195Tons blown up and floating in the air, ready to be breathed in.
AND, what a relief, instead of over 600 lbs of Plutonium blown up and aerosolized, it is only 433 Pounds !
Whew, sure glad we can feel safe with these revised numbers.
This is good original research, get all the details and backup here.
http://nukepimp.blogspot.com/
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Callme posted that at HP. wink! wink!
We’ll get the message out!
The Flim-Flam men have arrived there.
(flim-flam=deceptive nonsense)
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I am going to start my Quiver of Tools for Troll Jousting. They don’t stand a chance.
thanks!
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GO GET ‘EM AND I’LL SPREAD IT FAR AND WIDE!!
I got my Quiver Arrows READY!!
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Is No Dogma Freedom from here? Anyway i’m so glad to see him COMING ON BOARD AT HP. Need MORE AND MORE ANTI-NUKES THERE! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/01/japan-earthquake-magnitude_n_1178289.html
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As long as the Dogma don’t get run over by the Karma well be fine!
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I finished organizing a new Nuclear and Radiation resource blog.
18 categorized pages
many links.
Quite a bit of original material I produced myself.
Blog format, with comments
Check it out
http://nukepimp.blogspot.com/
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Hi stock, a cool blog you set up there! Please don’t feel offended, but do you think it might be enough to promote it ONCE a day?
just sayin’
*peace
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Only 433 pounds of PU? Oh well then, on with the renaissance!
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Didn’t you get the MESSAGE?? NO MORE NUKES KEVIN!
just playin’ with ya.
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OMG!! Here We Go Folks!!!
PAUL LANGLEY addressing the Troll at HP @ his blog
(i sent him “undsoweiter’s” comment from this a.m.)
A Pro-nuke person asks “Well, it’s pretty much established that there were no plutonium releases from the (fuk) reactors….
January 3, 2012
undsoweiter states and asks:
“Well, it’s pretty much established that there were no plutonium releases from the reactors, and you still haven’t addressed my question as to which yakusa is being accused of diverting nuclear materials.
Do you have any evidence? Do you have any answers to these many questions?
What if you don’t? What if you don’t like the answers?”
I love reacting. I’m a Leo with Irish in me, keep this stuff coming Whoopie.
HERE’S PAUL ANSWER TO YOU PERSONALLY undsoweiter
http://nuclearhistory.wordpress.com/2012/01/03/a-pro-nuke-person-asks-well-its-pretty-much-establishe%c2%add-that-there-were-no-plutonium-releases-from-the-fuk-reactors/
Are you gonna read it or SKIP OVER IT undsoweiter?!?!?!??!
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Lot’s of LINKS in piece. Paul concludes:
“I am not inclined to do ALL of the questioner’s research on an upaid basis. So as far as plutonium releases from Fukushima reactors I’ll leave it at that unless he wants to send me a bank cheque for $30,000 US. He should learn to read, it would be cheaper.
I will update this post with the answers to the rest of his questions after I have had a meal and rest break, if that’s ok with him or her. Yet another pro-nuker expert who doesnt know reality imo.
The plutonium releases are acknowledged by many sources of high provenance.
“What if you don’t like the answers?” huh? It is undsoweiter who won’t like the answers. Noone likes the reality anyway, except nuclear experts paid to misinform.
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No plutonium? What a DUFUS!
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These trolls are weak and getting weaker. They can’t even rally up an Ad hominem attack, now they just do name calling or say “no” and thats it. Weak, weak, weak, little boys playing with big toys they can’t control.
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http://fukushima-diary.com/
How long until enenews.com is down op? aka admin.?
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What in the hell?!?!?! OMG TG!!
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What’s the answer TG? Where did he go and why? And…so many questions!!! DAMN THEM!!
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KNOW WHAT’S HORRIFIC???
EVERY SINGLE IMPORTANT PIECE HE POSTED IS GONE!
WHY DIDNT I SAVE HIS BLOG TO DISC…OMG.
THERE’S NOT EVEN A CACHE TO GO SEE!! NOTHING. ZIP.
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I’m ashamed that i didn’t do that.
CaptD always says Save To Disc. Wish I woulda.
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Is there a meeting place if enenews does go down?
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many moons,…I have asked that very question three times here, in over eight months,….all I get is ‘dead air’.
Good thought many moons,…FWIW
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@StillJill, yes there is, I believe it’s called Fukushima Daily (note NOT “Diary”) and somebody will have a link I’m sure.
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Why don’t you start a MeetUp group? Am too busy to do it personally, but you can probably just do an online thing in lieu of actual meeting.
Sorry, but I start school F/T in a couple of weeks, so I can’t commit to doing that. Am also trying to put together materials to present to local mayors/city councils/water boards, so can’t take on any more projects right now.
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The other thing you could do is to start a Yahoo Group. You would need a moderator.
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If Facebook, twitter are down we could set a meeting place via the for sale, rent list of large national US, Canadian newspapers and run the add on Saturdays.
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all are welcome to meet anytime at Reality Check Nuclear News Now
http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/nnn.html
(lots of links there, may take small moment to load)
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In addition to Reality check, Lucas’ Enformable is a reliable site.
http://enformable.com/
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In a pinch at least to get in touch, I do have comments up at my kind of new blog, just keep in mind.
http://nukepimp.blogspot.com/
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@stock … please would you also truck this over there?
http://oahutrading.blogspot.com/p/japan-nuclear-information.html
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yes, I have been splitting it up into categories on the new site but takes time. I will make a page called Nuke Info and copy the whole thing, for now, then organize it later.
there are some good resources in there, it is my filing cabinet.
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NOT GOOD!!
This October surprise snow storm dump 2 feet of wet clingy snow on the northeast and particularly on us. The
Night of the storm our goat shed collapsed and crushed/trapped one of our goats.
huh tg??
has the web site been sold on?
or has it been hacked??
or is the word plutonium still banned?
was fukushima diary on a japanese server?
well spotted!
thanks
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Fukushima Diary is up for me…
????????
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me too now majia. relieved!
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didn’t he evacuate to england somewhere? Hope he is ok…
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He moved to the UK i think. JAPAN CENSORSHIP HAS STARTED!!!!
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hes not looked me up??
id enjoy a beer with that hero!
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ITS BACK!!
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TearsInHeaven99 Midori Futabatei
#Fukushima OMG! Fukushima Dairy has been SILENCED!!! fukushima-diary.com
3 minutes ago
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TWEET IT OUT FOLKS!!
#Fukushima OMG! Fukushima Dairy CENSORED!!! http://t.co/fNnCadZM
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went to whois and got this
Website Title: Humble Garden Title Relevancy100%Meta Description:ReSkilling for future food independenceDescription Relevancy:100% relevant.Meta Keywords:chickens
in the description
http://whois.domaintools.com/fukushima-diary.com
then
http://www.aboutus.org/Fukushima-Diary.com
waited for it to find.. then clicked on link.. got the proper website!
phew!
its working anyway now isnt it?
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NOW I’M REALLY CONFUSED! HERE HE IS IN A NEW TWEET
http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/01/former-plant-engineer-talks-tepco-is-taking-a-chance-for-reactor-4/#.TwJgC2zCKZV.twitter
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IS THE NEW PAGE THAT TG POSTED SIGNS OF WHATS TO COME???
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IS THE NEW PAGE THAT TG POSTED SIGNS OF WHATS TO COME???
chicken farming is much underated!! chickens can be fun, entertaining, humourous, loving and they pek alot too!!
youre obviously a city girl? rememeber chicken farming is fun!! its the way forward! hope this clears that up a bit
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whoopie web site working again.. fukushima is back online!!
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YEAH!! I’M SO HAPPY. TOTAL FREAK OUT TIME. WENT NUTS AT HP TOO.
OH well…so very happy to see him back.
Thanks for the alert though TG.
I expect it to happen in 3,2,1 with any of these blogs.
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was wierd.. noted possible hack at fukushima diary! well done tg!! your on it!
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Cool news though. CHAT ROOM FORUM http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/01/2-chat-places-and-1-forum/
I THINK IT WAS A HACK. EXPECT MORE.
ENENEWS NEEDS “BETTER PROTECTION”.
Not being Web Savey (sp) i’m not sure what that would be.
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NOW WAIT A MINUTE!! LOOK AT THIS!!
CLICKED MY LINK:
Not Found
The requested URL /index.php was not found on this server.
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NOW IT’S BACK.
I’M GOING TO BED.
STAY SAFE JAPAN AND GET THE HELL OUT OF HELL PLEASE!!!
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“get the hell out of hell” LOL!
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Me too “404 Not Found” WTF?
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servers shared with 48 other websites (i think) , maybe a glitch there? definately back on!!
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by looks of the chat the garden site is an impromptu place to go should fukushima-diary go down?
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Wow. So is Tepco still considering whether the levels are inches or centimeters or both?
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@BreadAndButter
January 3, 2012 at 1:58 am ·
My latest observations on a possible quake at Honshu:
http://predictingquakes.blogspot.com/
1313 utc on Jan 4 2012.
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“Tepco officially admitted the decreasing water level of the tank at reactor 4 was caused by the earthquake on 1/1/2012. (Source) Tepco states the water did not flow into the tank from water cooling system but flew into the container vessel in stead. However they still have not announced they managed to fixed the broken part of the reactor.” -Fukushima Diary
Tank or container vessel??? confused now? If the pipe broke, where did it break and how did it “flew into the container vessel?”
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