Published: May 30th, 2011 at 7:51 am ET
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Stabilizing reactors by year’s end may be impossible: Tepco, Kyodo, May 30, 2011:
Stabilizing the crisis at the Fukushima No. 1 power plant by the end of the year may be impossible, senior officials at Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Sunday [...]
The confirmation of core meltdowns hitting reactors 1 through 3, accompanied by breaches to the critical pressure vessels that hold the nuclear fuel, has led officials to believe that “there will be a major delay to work” to contain the situation, one official said. [...]
But “the nine months is just a target deadline for which we are making efforts,” a senior Tepco official said [...]
Given that the contaminated water has leaked from the No. 1 reactor’s containment vessel, a Tepco official said, “We must first determine where it is leaking and seal it.” [...]
Published: May 30th, 2011 at 7:51 am ET
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IAEA “fact-finding team” also says ‘hello’!
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It’s’ an IAEA lie uncovering mission
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For once I agree with you
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So now we must add full body tinfoil to our long-suffering hats?
From the very start of this nightmare for the Japanese people, non-aligned experts have insisted at least 3 reactors are totally out-of-control wrecked.
THERE IS NO PRIMARY CONTAINMENT.
There is NO plan available to halt what will end up being a slow motion genocide. Thanks a bunch, you psychopaths driving this insanity forward. You know who you are but perhaps you don’t yet realise that millions of angry people know too?
As one example amongst many:-
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/03/naming-names-your-real-government.html
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These corporations take our land, destroy it for their benefit, they take our tax dollars, they claim they are broke and grab our reserves then celebrate…. but there is no profit sharing, the American people give and give till they have nothing…..it’s no wonder the companies and banks have all the money and the average Amercan can’t get health care or an education. I guess it’s time to move to another country……this seems like a sinking ship with no one capable of doing anything…let the large corporation have a population of sick uneducated people…it will be hard to sell them anything…then where will the corporations be?
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heres the pattern. first they say everything is fine. next day everything is not fine. if someone punched them in the mouth everytime they lied would they have anything to say. i doubt it. lets pray for a miracle.
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“Let’s pray for a miracle.”
Let’s not and like this the world will learn to not split the atom. As it is I see that all plans are going forward to add more nuclear power plant all over the world. It’s a Pay me now or pay me later situation. Let’s pay upfront and get this horrible episode in human stupidity behind us.
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If we are going to pray, let’s pray for a miracle
AND for people to learn the
lessons they need to learn.
Not just about the dangers of nuke power.
But how do we create a world with clean food,
air, and water for our children. A world with
adequate education and health care for all.
A world that is safe, fair, and run by leaders
with integrity and competence.
If we are going to pray, might as well pray for the
whole enchilada.
Cassie
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exactly. thank u cassie.,like your vibe sister
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Human civilization is at a crossroads.
We can choose life or we can choose
death. It is our choice.
If we do nothing, we choose death.
If we wish to survive as a species,
there is a great deal of work to
be done.
Perhaps prayers will give us a chance,
but that is all it will do. We must do the
rest.
Cassie
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“How do we create a world with clean food, air, and water for our children. A world with adequate education and health care for all. A world that is safe, fair, and run by leaders
with integrity and competence.”
This is “unobtainium” dreaming.
The only sane approach to life I have ever seen demonstrated on this planet was by the Native Americans who lived within their means and within the bounty that Nature did or did not provide.
Further, every soul that was born into their communities eventually had to go out on a Vision Quest in order to learn what the Great Spirit had assigned to them their individual fates. Like this the warrior, shaman, leaders and chiefs were decided. Not by some corrupt behind the scenes “King Makers” who effectively decide who your next criminal politician will be.
We have lost our way. We have no divine guidance that is actively sought for. Like this we all get what we deserve. We say a quick prayer for things like you do in your post and then back to what is in front of you as if you have accomplished something. All that kind of an approach gets you is more and more ObamaNations.
We are so screwed!
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I too am a cynic, Darth.
But after reading so many of the wonderful, fascinating, heartwarming, intelligent, caring posts on this site, I am not so ready to throw in the towel on the human race.
Yes, sociopaths have taken control of the planet. But perhaps the people can take charge and create the world we all want.
We can see it, feel it, taste it.
Let’s make it so.
I would rather die trying, not just giving up.
Cassie
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Well said. Native American social concepts are alive and well; only the label on the outside has changed. It’s European stock like mine with all its wars weaponry and selfishness that’s buggered things up.
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We all know the truth:
The corporations, govts, and scientists
are not going to help us. They are the
problem, not the solution. (My apologies to those in these categories possessing integrity and morality.)
If there is going to be real change, it will
have to come from the bottom up. The
people will have to demand clean, safe energy sources which we know exist.
The corrupt oligarchy cannot make $trillions on sea, sun, wind, thermal
power, so they have convinced us to
to look away from these ideas.
We also know that we are going to have
to make major lifestyle changes. We
as a people, are going to have to start paying attention to the world around us, start educating ourselves, and come out of our ignorance and denial.
Become true citizens of the 21st century. Time to grow up.
And give up some of our shiny toys and conveniences. So that all might be fed, educated, clothed across the planet. And all live in a safe clean world.
It is our choice. To become citizens of the world, of the 21st century, to become adults. Or remain as we have been.
And as Dr. Phil says, how is that working for us?
Cassie
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“Native Americans who lived within their means and within the bounty that Nature did or did not provide”:
At the same time the British navy ruled the world and regularly treated scurvy-ridden sailors with whippings, native americans hunting buffalo or other animals knew the importance of bringing the (unknown to them vitamin C laden) adrenal gland back and giving a piece to each member of the tribe, as they had been doing for hundreds of years.
The technically and culturally “advanced” British had to wait until the 1747 ‘discovery’ that limes reduced scurvy, but when that didn’t succeed, the ‘limies’ were given lemons.
Wonder if the native americans know and use some natural substance that works to reduce radiation and related illnesses?
Maybe they’re the ones to look to for an answer: our braniac nuclear engineers sure don’t have one.
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With everything that’s happened, there is still support for a new nuclear plant being built in Japan:
“Nuclear plant construction divides Japan”
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/0b02f014-8adb-11e0-b2f1-00144feab49a.html#axzz1NrRM5ugs
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Thankfully, at least Germany has learned from this horrible tragedy:
“Germany Nuclear Power Plants To Be Entirely Shut Down By 2022″
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/30/germany-nuclear-power-plant-shut-down_n_868786.html
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maybe it’s our pay back for destroying the perfect harmony of nature by smashing atos and unleashing the bi-product plutonium….aptly named after the God Pluto, commander of death, leader of the underworld, and giver of wealth….I suppose plutoium gave a great deal of wealth to very few and the rest of us can suffer.
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You Got it Cuica! Almighty God, forgive us, we were just
fancy monkeys messin’ with magic fire.
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I’m afraid you are right….mankind could never event an atom, and having discovered the ability to distoy them he has paved a path to his own distruction….simple as that. And if by some freakin miracle we sneak out of destroying the whole planet, well we will surely have taken out a nice big piece and we can be sure another accident will happen to take out another….no doubt about.. it’s gambling sometimes u win, sometimes you loose…the difference is when you loose at this game it’s for FOREVER!!!!! But lets just keep plodding along toward our hell on earth!
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The day they announced the “Nine Month Plan” (like birth, how pretty) – they already knew the true scope of the problem. That was complete BS. So is – ‘it will take longer’.
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Fool me 20 times, shame on me.
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Indeed Cassie,….I’m prayin’ for the whole enchilada! The Mayans and Hopi believe we are entering the ‘time of the feminine’. They say the ‘power staff will be turned over to the feminine’ kinda thing. Hey, there are a lot of ‘theories’ and ‘belief systems’ out there-and I believe most have a vein of truth. It would be ‘interesting’, to say the least,….to see how a woman would handle the weight of the World, I think. Ultimately,…we need a higher power we let lead us into being the best people we can be,….but the Mayan/Hopi may indeed have something there. I’m keeping an open mind.
“Fuku-uppy”,…I stole that one from someone here-thanks,…., is seeming to me like the giant lie of all selfishness rolled into one crescendo lesson!
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It may happen Jill.
I think the 21st century will be the century
of the female. If we are still here, that is.
And perhaps if the mothers, grandmothers,
women of the world are pissed off enough,
they may take matters into their own hands.
Men have ruled the world for the last 10,000
years, maybe it is our turn for the next 10,000.
Cassie
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Have you heard of the Council of the Thirteen Indigenous Grandmothers? I thinks it’s a good start to the idea of ‘wisdom’ of leadership in world systems coming from elder women of native heritage from all over the globe. My grandma would love and nourish the world up as an advisor! Whoa that just made me cry! We need a blog just as a support group for this stuff!
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How Utterly Freekin’ Ridiculous! WOMEN!…how
convenient for you to (typically) ignore the truth of
your burgeoning Female NEEDS to demand I WANT!
I WANT THIS! I WANT THAT! Freekin’ disgusting to
continuously see and hear the propaganda!
Men have been forced to BE POLITE to IDIOT women,
to have their JOBS ripped from them and handed to
some WOMAN who quickly displays that SHE is nowhere
close to having an Equal Mind, Nor Ethics, Nor Goodness.
Go take a flying fluck, you “Age of Womyn” Idiots.
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I did caution all here… not to go sexism.
LOLOL
Long temps Vivre la Différence!
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???…you wouldn’t be alive if it wasn’t for a woman…with a lot of patience to deal with you!
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And there, class of 2020, we see an example of the Neanderthal re-emergent mindset. Its DNA was ultimately not selected for and it passed into extinction without fanfare. It’s legacy wholly unattractive and serving no use.
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Wow that’s pretty hateful writing and I have to say I feel different than you.
I think Fukushima is the worst MAN made disaster in the history of men & women.
Man-made. Not WOMAN-made.
I have yet to see a woman named in all the news about Fukushima yet.
Maybe women wouldn’t have led us to the place we find ourselves in today. A woman is not lesser than a man just because she is a female either. You expressed your views to which I shared mine in return.
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Women have had the vote!…this mess is equal opportunity.
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don’t worry. we’re all gonna be both male and female soon… watch.
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oh jiminy crickets!
don’t know where i saw it, but the left-right brain dichotomy thing has been debunked for ages, don’t know where you got that one.
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In that geo-physicist’s (whose name escapes me) videos, she provides evidence that radioactive contamination makes XY fetuses less viable. She mentions schools in California near nuke plants having progressively fewer boy students as the years have passed. Ditto for salmon near Hanaford. So guess who has a problem, Jack? The same guys that invented the problems.
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You do know how to keep things lively, Jack. I salute you for that. But, turnabout is fair play:
Women are only good for one thing: everything.
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@ Extra night
got the idea in my doctoral dissertation.
Cassie
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@Rica, yes I have heard of this group.
And they actually have been on my mind.
I so wonder what wisdom they might
have for us now.
Some anthropologists believe that we
owe our very existence to grandmothers.
Research shows that tribes with grandmothers
in the home have a significantly higher rate
of infants surviving into adulthood.
Cassie
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I’d be willing to try something different. A looong time ago (we don’t know exactly when because carbon dating rock is problematic), there was a vast matriarchal system in the East that ruled peaceably for a thousand years. The concepts were agriculture, human rights and democracy. Some say it was a little pagan – they worshipped stalks of grain and thought cyclically. Other lessons we’ve learned, suggest that balanced female influence in finance and government have positive societal effects. Example: microfinance in Africa – when they loan to women a self sustaining economy emerges in villages and loans are paid back with near zero default. Also, the midwifery system was on the whole beneficial societally for all. Female contributions throughout history have been largely silenced, but they’re remarkable. We’ve institutionalized over thousands of years now, a predominately patriarchal system that has a destructive trajectory and great human suffering with strangely little advancement considering the time and resources provided to it’s disposal. Just imagine beyond unsustainable systems, slavery, war, an ascension evolutionarily and progressively – the nuturing accomplishments never realized toward health, joy, environment and discovery on Earth and beyond. I feel we should have reached there by now instead of the global scourge – pillaging with no goal in mind beyond temporal wealth amassed for a very few at the expense of everything else. I’d rather further creation within natural precepts rather than this great unzipping of DNA and the atom. This current apex of patriarchy is like “birth envy” – against itself, against advancement. Tinkering like a child. We could instead all prosper, but under this the majority minority (women) scrape for voting rights and still can’t implement equal pay. It’s silly. The greatness of society is measured by the treatment of the least capable among us. Currently, 1 in 4 US children are on food stamps, women receive 70%…
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…70% of the male compensation for the same job, but graduate with advanced degrees at a higher rate, the elderly are sequestered from society in homes and the disabled are discriminated upon – below poverty level. Millions of immigrants are farmed for labor, uncounted without protection and due process. Endless corporate wars ensue without benefit to populations. Environmentally, we’re unsustainable with epidemic debilitating illnesses with no cure, but pills for symptoms that often induce additional illness. Families and communities are under attack, isolated and divided. Individuals practice unlimited consumption in the face of finite resources. Short-term thinking and goals rule the day in pageantry without substance or inclusive, unhostile future planning. Psychologically and educationally and in infrastructure we are unraveling.
So yeah, change is scary, but I’m willing and a woman. I’m intelligent enough to see that this system isn’t working.
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Ah Mothra,
A female, that explains it.
Right and left brain
working together superbly.
In our brave new world, if we
get a second chance, I hope
people like you are in charge.
Cassie
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“For small creatures such as we, the vastness is only bearable only through love.” –Carl Sagan
Thank you Cassie, hugs and best wishes to you and yours this holiday!
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Yes I think some misinterpret what we
are saying. It is not about a gender war,
votership, etc.
It is about a major paradigm shift,
a change of the zeitgeist.
Testosterone on steroids has not worked.
Women the world over want to raise their
children in peace and safety. I will keep saying: clean food, air, water. Health care.
Education. Peace. A fair, just world.
Educated and informed citizens. Responsible, competent, moral leaders.
It is our choice, we can stay as we are and probably become extinct as a species.
Or we can evolve and become citizens of the 21st century. We either grow up as a people or we do not survive.
Cassie
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@Mothra
Same to you my friend.
“A small group of thoughtful people could change the world. Indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has.” -Margaret Mead
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i will sacrifice my comments at the altar of confusion and serendipity.
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thank you. men have created an insane world and i am a man. just an honest one. it is time, beyond time to actually put the welfare of human beings above the welfare of the corporations. i am ready for a new world
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Yay, Carl Sagan was my hero when I was a kid! Reading Cosmos when I was a young impressionable lad literally changed my life, the way I looked at the world, and our place in it. I remember crying when he passed away. The world needs more Carls.
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Great points!
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Sorry Mothra, for all your obvious capabilities, yes
you are a cut above the Norm, even two cuts, but
at that Point where you cross over the Line, asserting Female Moral or Ethical Superiority, you
have entered the Witchcraft World of Falsehood!
There is No Chance that your repeated “70% pay for
THE SAME WORK” is true.
Lots of women occupy Desks because of
A horribly unjust, untrue Affirmative Action
system created by the Evillest MEN in history,
to spew confusion, disharmony, and destruction
of our Society.
You continue to assert
a Baby-ass Fantasy that your female mind would
make a better world.
Read up on the Story of Ahab and Jezebel.
Witchcraft is coming to a CLOSE.
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Hahaha. Let me know how your Lotto ticket works out for ya… I doubt you’ll cash in with it, it’s numerically stacked against your benefit too.
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My value is intrinsically defined, incredibly impervious to outside subjective assessment, but thank you for your almost compliments. Norms or cuts are entirely moot – deeds matter – higher principles matter and there’s work to do, clearly.
I promise not to poke pins in your doll. (riotous giggles)
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Jack – you’re right. Women’s pay can be above 70% if they’re over 25 and not minority. In that case it can be 75%:
“A new White House report, “Women in America: Indicators of Social and Economic Well-Being” addresses women’s present role in family life, education, employment, health, and crime in American society. The report, which is the first of its kind in nearly 50 years, also challenges policymakers, researchers, and advocates to do more to further the collection of gender-specific data in the future. It notes that women’s gains in education and increased participation in the labor force have not yet translated into wage and income equity; at all levels of education, women earned about 75 percent of what their male counterparts earned in 2009. (NOTE: the 75 percent figure applies only to workers aged 25 and older and is a special calculation of weekly median earnings data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.) Women are more likely to live in poverty than men, and the economic inequities for women of color are even greater.”
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Witchcraft?! LOL – oh Jack, you sure know how to tease. Next you’ll be telling me we didn’t hang enough folks in old Salem.
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What’s up with this notion of “them vs us” and “men vs women?”
The greatest thinker in history said it best: “Can’t we all just get along?”
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It is not my goal to divide but to unite.
All divisions are man made and artificial.
Our commonality is greater than the
differences.
We truly are all one.
What happens in Japan, impacts
all of us.
I think some of us are suggesting
that a paradigm shift of the highest order
is necessary to preserve the planet
and people.
Change is hard. But I believe we
will go kicking and screaming into
the 21st century whether we like it or
not. We will evolve. Or perish.
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Yes, the preceding dose of Exactly Why Civilization is Dying should tell most everyone what is up.
There is a stunning video wherein
Graduates, in cap and gown, at a Prestigious University somewhere back East, are asked to take in
hand a simple lightbulb, two wires, and a battery,
and make a light out of it. One “Graduate” woman
struggles with the set-up, giggles, moves wires and
tries to make the light shine, then stops, takes a
classic Feminist Indignant Posture, and says…
are you ready for this?….”Oh, well, that’s not my area, I’m a CIVIL Engineer!”….just too gut-churning an example of the reality we face in the
WORKPLACE every day in America.
Mothra, you should be ashamed of yourself.
I’m a REAL Good Guy, and I wouldn’t tolerate your
witchcraft assertions of superiority. You Girls
really are NO JUDGE of How much WORK you do,
relative to others.
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Gee Jack,
That was one of Mothra’s best lines.
Ha.
You know there was a witch on this site.
Remember her?
A Witch.
Kinda missing her right now.
C
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If you really Knew about Witchez, you’d not ever “wish” for one.
It’s all fun and games and giggles for you.
Yes, the Pins-in-the-doll was a funny line.
If you met me and could maintain attention-span,
you would see that the Baddest (to be humble about it) Witch is this here Christian White Man. You could
find yourself quickly relocated to a Mexican peasant
village, where all your most cherished feminist ideals
can be realized while you wash your clothing side-by-side with your Bruja sisters in the Sewage creek which flows by the Hog pen.
You are in my Country, don’t think otherwise.
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I’m not ashamed of myself for advocating or being willing to participate in a representational governance model – quite the opposite.
Or, for stating the history of success women have had. Why would I be?
Respectfully, you seem to be responding to something other than my statements in a Nathaniel Hawthorne Dr. Prynne PTSD way. I wouldn’t mention it, but it clouds the points I making. Cassie has the flavor of it utterly.We can all do better.
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It’s really no mystery, P vs. M.
Men vs. women is a foolish circular debate which will never have an end, and which will always cause lively and semi-intelligent, semi-retarded fusillades of comments.
Context is everything: it was introduced to this comment board to CHANGE THE FOCUS OF THE DISCUSSION FROM FUKUSHIMA TO ANYTHING ELSE. An artful distraction.
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And Mothra, you are certainly vindicated for being drawn ijnto that trap (Cassie, too). Ad hominem attacks have a way of provoking the fight response.
Jack, yours was the incendiary remark which threw the discussion off track. Either you are a shill-troll, or you have issues whose resolution should be sought elsewhere than EnergyNews.
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And sorry for the late comments – out of town yesterday.
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Mothers for Peace:
http://www.mothersforpeace.org
“Mothers for Peace Joins 45 Groups in Petition to NRC: Suspend ALL Licensing”
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hi jill
yes we are going thru a time when we will see the truth about this world and ourselves. the question the world and each one of us faces is do we want to actually see it or do we want to avoid it. the path to freedom both collectively and individually lies in walking thru the door of selfexamination, not in shutting it. the choice is for each of us to make but the results will be felt collectively
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Still ZERO news about the effects of the heavy rain and winds on Fukushima this week end !
It’s absolutly amazing.
I’ve got the feeling to live somewhere in the Matrix. The red or the blue pill ? !
No report, nothing… It’s like it never happened.
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Well in this case, we were lucky indeed; nothing happened. Little rain, hardly any wind. The Typhoon was a weak tropical storm by the time is reached Shizuoka,South of Tokyo. And almost nothing thereafter.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q5rVmIjwSQ
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Im still scaning for rain updates today!
But while we wait read THIS and weep:
Expert: no threat of radiation from rain
Professor Shunichi Yamashita of Nagasaki University says there’s no need to prepare for radioactive rain.
Yamashita said on Sunday that no radiation has been detected in dust in the atmosphere. He was referring to an investigation conducted last week in areas more than 20 kilometers away from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
He says the rains mean radioactive substances on the ground will be washed away and thinly diffused, except for in areas that collect rain.
Monday, May 30, 2011 06:05 +0900 (JST)
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Heavy rain along Pacific coast of Tohoku
The weather agency says the risk of landslides remains high in Fukui Prefecture and the disaster-stricken prefectures of Miyagi, Fukushima and Ibaraki. Kyoto and Nagano Prefectures could experience flooding.
The low pressure system that brought the heavy rain is expected to move toward the east off the coast of Japan’s main island, Honshu.
Heavy rain and thunderstorms are forecast for Monday afternoon in northeastern Japan along the Pacific Coast of Tohoku.
The Meteorological Agency is calling for caution against mudslides, flooding and high waves. Particularly, caution is needed due to the loosening or sinking of the ground in the areas affected by the March earthquake.
Monday, May 30, 2011 14:19 +0900 (JST)
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/30_17.html
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To announce containment within 9 months was strange to start with. Nobody has seen the exact condition of the reactors yet so how can anybody guess that the work will take 9 months if you do not know what it will consist of?
How much melting did occur? Did it reach the ground, even partially through cracks? And if radiations in the immediate vicinity of the reactor is too high for humans, how exactly will any work be done? Robot? Well Asimo can “dance”, nice, but to do any useful work would require a more advanced machine which clearly does not exist yet. Worse, the configuration is such that you cannot cover it Chernobyl style.
An explanation from Tepco about what exactly they plan to do would be more interesting than a “ball game” guess about “something” being done within 9 months.
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Robots are made of up of electronic parts. And electronic parts are prone to heat. I can imagine Asimo dropping small components, resistors, capacitors before it reaches anywhere near the reactor.
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Yes indeed. In fact you can build electronic parts which can survive a large amount of radiation, space probes for example but its custom made and takes a lot of time. Hard to imagine anything ready within months
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Yes, radiation hardened electronics are used in spacecraft. But, I don’t believe that even those can withstand the radiation levels being reported at reactor 1. Especially for the extended periods of time that will be required to do any useful work.
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The Japanese Government forced TEPCO to come up with a timeline to appease the people of Japan. It meant nothing, but sounded good, at first …
Made it seem like there was a ‘Plan’, LOL
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I agree, the 9-month story was total ‘calm the masses’ BS.
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Goebbels would have applauded standing for what the world leaders including the Japanese and Tepco have stage managed so far. India seems to have told Angel Merkel that she is determined to commission 20000 MW of nuclear power by 2020 in the face of the permanent F cataclysm in the universe.Neptunium has a 100 million year half life…
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Why can’t they cover it Ken? If not Chernobyl style then in some other style? This is the part I am finding most difficult to understand. Did you read some engineering report that explained why entombment is not feasible? Or were your remarks just off the grapevine? If you have read a scientific assessment that gives reasons for ruling out entombment could you please post a link, because I can’t find it.
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Try to cover the primary containment vessels and the insulating effect will allow the heat to build until there is another steam explosion. Such an explosion will cause the very radiation release that you’re trying to prevent.
If by some miracle the steam explosion was avoided, the radioactive materials will either burn through the bottoms of the buildings. This is also likely to cause steam explosions. Or in a best case scenario the radioactive material will continue to contaminate the water table as it steadily leaks out. I assume that they could dig under the reactors but this will be a massive civil engineering effort that would take months to years. All the more complicated by the fact that your right next to the Pacific Ocean and that highly radioactive water is already contaminating the water table.
At least in the near term their only option appears to be to keep the melted cores cool by pouring water on them. I hope that someone can come up with a method to inert the melted cores and spent fuel in place. But, I’m not holding my breath. It is indeed a nightmare scenario.
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As stated below, there are several technical difficulties which will make it extremely difficult to entomb.
Chernobyl exploded, dispersing the core. This was certainly bad from a radiation point of view, but it was also the end of the story. Some corium left to cool down in the “basement” but no core (to speak of) left to emit more heat. A “good” outcome sort of. Not so lucky with Fukushima. It is difficult to know what is the current configuration of the core but there is no doubt that it is still emitting heat. Re-criticality is also possible as well as more water-zirconium reaction producing hydrogen. A sarcophagus could indeed blow up. Even if filled with sand and boron although it is difficult to imagine how such a feat could be done in the first place considering the geography of the plant.
This the second obstacle. The reactors are high up in the plant and the pools even higher. (equivalent to 3rd floor) It is simply impossible to fill up such a complex 3D space. And if you do not fill it up, eventually, it will leak, especially below which will be devilishly difficult to contain.
Fukushima will probably have to be fully dismantled which will be extraordinarily difficult to do. Not to mention the cost.
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Yup, 9 months was completely random, premature, and based on everything they knew about the scope of the diaster at the time, which was nothing.
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How nicely said and in such compact fashion encapsulates the whole history of modern civilisation. I do hope people get together put their heads together and shut down all nukes, mines and only intensively concentrate on how to isolate the whole mess with smart sentries. Others will figure out how to bring back NURTURE so life on earth becomes worth living for all life for all time. This is truly the cgange of an ugly age…
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Chernobyl was contained in 6 months. It has no containment vessel or anything. Fukushima which has a containment vessel couldn’t be contained in 9 months. To be fair, what’s the plan to contain fukushima?
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They have to get it to cool off to contain it. From my understanding, the corium magma may spread out, harden and cool, as it did in other meltdowns…but, there are so many possible complications, tons of radioactivity, ongoing fission & explosive capacity present… Need more info!!
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I would like more data on what it means that we’ve had 3 full meltdowns for over 2 1/2 months and there has been no additional explosion yet… That could be sufficient time for some corium to settle and harden. Need to ID the status and location of the melted cores!!
When I lived near Three Mile Island long ago, they tracked that meltdown in far more detail, minute-by-minute!!..The Japanese ordinarily excel at precision-?
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chernobyl is an ongoing battle, it caused alot of damage to the surrounding areas, it is an overstatement to say that it was properly controlled.
http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/14898/chernobyl_fallout.jpg
http://www.kodak.com/US/images/en/corp/1000words/meredith/map.jpg
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but at least the russians displayed a massive industrial level of will,work and effort involving hundreds of thousands of firemen,miners,labourers the army and scientists. all working to step by step plan.
ok the finished original structure had holes in it but the effort was epic.
in fukishitima we have lies and bullshit.
we have repaired the cooling ponds!
what with 500 people and a couple of hoses.
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Yes the proof that Chernobyl will last for centuries has been put up by Nesterenkov,Nesterenkov and Yablokov.2009.Consequences, Annals NY Acad Sci.
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Don’t know if you guys saw this new petition:
URGENT! Fukushima Radioactive Fallout Food Safety Petition
http://www.change.org/petitions/urgent-fukushima-radioactive-fallout-food-safety-petition
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Too bad, it’s only possible to sign if you live in the US….
thanks for sharing anyway
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With the level of this global crisis and the power brokers involved there is really no recourse in signing a petition.
Why?? Well from what I see from all the reports from here all I see is they are stating what everything costs.
That tells me their enslavement to the international banksters is more important than the health and well being of the human race.
Petitions are useless against this crowd, and in my mind those of you who prefer the pen will be run through with the sword.
This is a time of monumental change. Those of you who are privy to this site should be either shitting or getting off of the pot.
I am selling everything pulling, pegs and fanning out of here @ the high port. I have done my job I have shared with those close to me the information to make an educated decision how their future will be.
Me? I have a young family and am ex military (infantry)it is time to do a tactical withdrawal. For you really do not want to know what the outcome will be when the government here in North America decides to reveal to the public the extent of how bad the Northern Hemisphere really is.
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Yes, Stoney…
I wish you luck with protecting your kids.
Folks are resenting being told anything about the harsh facts,
like you’re the BAD Guy to say anything about it.
Most of us are in Fantasy Land.
I hope you are aware of the dangers of Dairy products, even
way before any radiation crisis…notmilk.com.
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These authoriies are bringing new meaning to the “Baghdad Bob” approach, but they need an ‘incident commander’ with a catchy name.
How about “Tokyo Tarou”, or maybe “Tepco Takako”, or even “Japan Junko”?
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Fuk-U Fred.
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Japanese Bob? Never mind.
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Tokyo Rose has already been taken.
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There’s no blackout on nuclear news at RT.com – http://rt.com/search/?q=fukushima and at AJE – http://english.aljazeera.net/Services/Search/?q=fukushima.
And no Baghdad Bob oratory.
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http://fukushima.grs.de/informationen-zur-lage-den-japanischen-kernkraftwerken-fukushima-onagawa-und-tokai
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One of the comments on the RT site went right to the heart of the matter:
RMB May 28, 2011, 18:33 quote
It’s really breathtakingly simple. Capitalism is the philosophy of taking the most shortcuts to the maximum profit, right now. Nothing beyond the present financial year matters, nothing at all. Because for the capitalist, the long-term is nothing to do with them – they’ll be retired or dead by then.
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This reminds me of how the Gulf disaster was handled, and that still isn’t turning out well.
Not to worry though, while this is going down we will be so relaxed, in compliance with everything going down around us.
http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/liquid-medicine-controversial-call-to-add-lithium-to-drinking-water-for-mental-health/
Yummmm…NOT!!!!
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Another medical heads-up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRJR-pw57Tg&playnext=1&list=PL53CB060839AADDBF
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Thank you Heart O’ Rose….
These videos are great.
It is too bad that it seems the only one intrested in learnin’
Is the Teacher!…Ball of Confusion….
These issues are going to quickly become moot, because we
will have no municipal systems, no water flowing through,
no pumps pumps pumpin’ because we will have no
functioning infrastructure at all.
We need to post educational videos about how to scrounge
water as you make your way through the devastated Land.
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Sure… this was just an example..another example of the government….trying to KILL us.
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It’s a guessing game, what’s in our foods and drinks.
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Cassie! Heart O’ Rose! Everybody! Thank You!
Let’s say we pass over a cosmic Threshold, and those who
demonstrated effort in solving, or At Least, LEARNING About the problems, are rewarded with some command authority,
I would have to hand it to you, As a Confirmed Disbeliever in
Feminist Claims, at that.
You Fine Ladies have posted lots of Good Info, insisted on
Positive outlook as much as possible.
Here is MY PUSH for you.
We are Had-it, as far as expecting to continue with Power
generation and transmission. No Way will this continue.
So, seriously consider Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome.
Mel Gibson is a shining light in the Movie Production Bizz.
He had to fight the entrenched ZIONIST Illuminati Bosses
of Hollywood to get his pictures made.
In Mad Max Thunderdome, the crucial Image which I hope
you will hold in your Heart, is that of THE KIDS, left with
only the barest memory of READING, from their dead parents, left to invent their own Primitive Cosmology.
It is a very deep symbology, where the “witch doctor” of
the kids group has possession of the Headset and Mike
left by their bomber-crew parents, and Knows that if he
spins the Vinyl record, he is supposed to receive some kind
of message. So they create a Ritual trying to Act Out some
Tuning-In to the almighty, or Radio Base, or Whoever left
them down there in the canyon.
WHAT? I say WHAT will you leave behind, CASSIE, so that
your grandkids have SOME CHANCE to be able to even READ?
I think, despite all your great awareness displayed here, that
you still think you’re going to have a future with INTERNET.
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@ Jack…. This is not where my mindset lies. I’ve never tried to build utopia from ruins.
On the contrary… I’ve been bold with the truth.
The INTERNET is being locked down as we speak.
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Thank You Heart O’ Rose….I meant in your case, you are
Positive. I still am struggling with Death Throes anticipated,
foreseen, wherein WE DIDN’T LEAVE ANY information for the
next, computer-game-addled, illiterate generation to use.
IF there was even going to be another generation.
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I am not concerned with the existence of the internet.
But rather the existence of humanity.
And the manifestation of a moral, spiritual renaissance
to be incorporated with science and politics.
And Heart is on the right path.
She is about Truth.
And fighting the good fight.
As are many posters on this good site.
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Cool, Cassie
Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome….very timely, appropriate
flick, multiple thought-provoking aspects.
We are leaving the young to be brainwashed by the electronic
Beast, faces bent to their screens, feverishly wasting time as
they become progressively more ILLITERATE and Socially stupid.
Efforts made NOW, like making sure the youngest that can get it
are trained about food, water, contamination safety. About
Police-State idiots in uniforms, and the Love of Christ for us.
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I will agree with you on that, Jack. Functional illiteracy is the ONLY thing being taught in schools these days, and the prostration of young minds before the new gods of Technology and The Screen is appalling beyond measure.
I am in the unfortunate position of working in “Public Education” at the moment. It is already far worse than the worst-case scenario you can imagine. Education now is scientifically-engineered brain damage.
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This dumbing down of society is on purpose.
http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/pages/book.htm
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I got about 1/2 way through that a couple of years ago, and literally felt ill over all the lies I’d been taught and believed. Maybe it’s time to finish reading it!
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Stabilize? Stabilize? TEPCO-LIES!
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DESTROY THE DAMN THINGS…..BEFORE THEY DESTROY YOU,,,,JAPAN
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Hey Jack, thanks for reminding us just how dumb and drugged out much of society has become.
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Slightly Off-Topic:
Leuren Moret – Depleted Uranium, Eugenics,
De-Population:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMgU9kEe3Vk&feature=BFa&list=WL00356D86ED9BA73D&index=72
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A Human Story – fukushima meldtown: last testimony from japan 30/05/2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZiF6Ig6hHk&feature=channel_video_title
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