Tepco Handout: Xenon detected in Reactor No. 2 containment vessel — 9 hour half-life

Published: February 14th, 2012 at 9:55 am ET
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Title: Primary Containment Vessel of Unit 2 of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station, Sampling Result by the Gas Control System
Date: February 14, 2012
By: Tokyo Electric Power Company

Sampling time: February 13, 2012, 16:24-16:54 (charcoal filter)

  • Xe-133 @ 0.016 Bq/cm3 (5 day half-life) or 16,000 Bq/m3
  • Xe-135 @ 0.023 Bq/cm3 (9 hour half-life) or 23,000 Bq/m3


Recent Tepco press handouts

Title: Fukushima No. 2 reactor’s thermometer likely faulty: TEPCO – The Mainichi Daily News
Source: Kyodo
Date: February 14, 2012

[...] The utility said it believes sustained nuclear reactions were not taking place in the reactor as no radioactive xenon has been detected inside the containment vessel. To prevent the possibility of the reactor going critical, it increased on Sunday the amount of water injected as coolant by 3 tons per hour and poured in 1 ton of boric acid. [...]

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82 comments to Tepco Handout: Xenon detected in Reactor No. 2 containment vessel — 9 hour half-life

  • jec

    Temperature Gauge Correct! Reactor 2 shows Xenon..so re-criticality has occurred. NOW..WHAT? Nothing? Silent press release. Protect your citizens…


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    • InfoPest InfoPest

      You mean that thermometer WAS correct, now they no longer have that thermometer because they purposely destroyed it. If your hanging by your fingernails you don't cut off one of your fingers.


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    • Bones Bones

      The temperature gauge could still be malfunctioning. Radiation might be interfering with the voltage from the probe or faulty wiring or the metal in the probe itself is damaged. I still don't think the probe is returning the correct values. That said, this isn't good and the poor Japanese get another cloud of sunshine to breath in.


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      • Spectrometising

        I agree Bones, you didn't mention electronics which is correct, the probe is not electronic. Nice analysis!!
        Here is some information for the crew that i am submitting about the nature of the detector used.

        From Wikipedia:
        "Resistance thermometers, also called resistance temperature detectors or resistive thermal devices (RTDs), are sensors used to measure temperature by correlating the resistance of the RTD element with temperature. Most RTD elements consist of a length of fine coiled wire wrapped around a ceramic or glass core. The element is usually quite fragile, so it is often placed inside a sheathed probe to protect it. The RTD element is made from a pure material whose resistance at various temperatures has been documented. The material has a predictable change in resistance as the temperature changes; it is this predictable change that is used to determine temperature.

        As they are almost invariably made of platinum, they are often called platinum resistance thermometers (PRTs). They are slowly replacing the use of thermocouples in many industrial applications below 600 °C, due to higher accuracy and repeatability.[1]"


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    • sandman

      Ok, I'm confused. The title of this article says that xenon was detected, then posts charts that say no xenon was detected. WTF? The only xenon listed is in the first chart, and the footnote says "please note that this time, since the result of rare gas capture at glass vial container was below the detection limit, we used the highest rate of capture in the past". The other two charts say "below detection limit", and the blurb says no radioactive xenon was detected. So as far as I can tell. this article should be titled "Hooray! No xenon was detected!" Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong. ADMIN, am I missing something here?


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  • enoughalready45 enoughalready45

    Now what?

    Now what TEPCO will you finally admit defeat and look to the world for help?

    Now what GOVERNMENTS will you protect the people?

    History WILL be your judge.


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    • Bob Hardin Bob Hardin

      How, exactly, is the "world" supposed to "help"? With all the bitching and moaning on this site, I have never seen a single positive suggestion about what to do about the problem.


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      • ENENews

        I see comments all the time about taking action. Here's one from earlier today:

        http://enenews.com/breaking-hospital-doctor-patients-suffering-high-level-radiation-exposure-complains-media-reporting-findings/comment-page-1#comment-204672

        Posted by vital1 on February 14, 2012 at 12:12 am

        "We need to bypass MSM and create our own worldwide news network. We have to get the true message out there on how serious the Fukushima nuclear disaster is. We must do this quickly, and efficiently. Getting frustrated reading this stuff without taking psychical action to change it is a waste of life. I am suggesting we create our own world press organization. Each one of us can distribute lots of important life saving information to those around us.

        It has to be diverse and decentralized concerted organized mass effort. Everyone distributing the information in their own local area, or Internet social networks. If you have recorded local data showing raised radiation levels try your local media, and see if they will write an article. A local paper is more likely to publish the information.

        Also for this process to work well, we need different flyers created by lots of you. The central message being, how serious the Fukushima nuclear disaster is. No leaders, just personal action.

        Hand them out, mailbox them, or email them. Put them everywhere, libraries, notice boards, web pages, forums, Facebook, and tweet! Put them on web pages, and in lots of sites where the flyer can be downloaded. Think outside the box.

        I have created the flyer below which you can use for now. If more of you create your own, that would be great. You don’t need to explain anything just distribute it. I have reached lots of people with this flyer who had no idea how bad this disaster is. The vast majority will appreciated it.
        Forget about the occasional knock-back this is more important than your feelings.

        If the thousands of enenews users did this it would make a big difference."

        http://members.ozemail.com.au/~vital1/lifesaver.pdf


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        • Bob Hardin Bob Hardin

          LOL! That's not a positive suggestion for what to do about Fukushima! That's a suggestion for people to publicize and discuss the problem. Whoever wrote it must have hoped that someone would come up with something specific. Well, no one has.


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        • GoFrodo

          Being the media is a first step. You (Bob) cannot deny that information control is a primary tool of influence in the world.

          Without awareness, who will get behind the plans? Too many obstacles are there when most people don't even know what's going on.


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      • CB CB

        Positive suggestion – team up with us!


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      • blackbudda blackbudda

        "single positive suggestion"?
        two single HBombs?


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      • hbjon hbjon

        Beg your pardon. This is called, "one step above apathy behavior". In a modern society there is disapproval of Raging against the dying of the light. So, most sheeple feel more accepted with the new concept of psychology. "Bitch, bitch against the dying of the light". Mr. Hardin, would you have us "Smile, smile, against the dying of the light". And as far as positive suggestions, there are tons of them here. Again, how do you make suggestions of something that very few people are in the "know" about? You can't comment on the bear that craps in the woods, because nobody saw it crap. We can only tell ya it stinks and makes a noise.


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        • Bob Hardin Bob Hardin

          If there are "tons" of positive suggestions, name one.


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          • GoFrodo

            I think the answer may be at least partially somewhere on this page or with related technologies. I know little of them, only. For sure, I know there are energies to be tapped into that can do things conventional science tells us is impossible:
            http://merlib.org/node/5070

            What is probably known as zero point energy can also be used to help heal the radiation sickness – that means energy healing.

            Can it be used to clean up the mess? I say maybe. John K. Hutchison has used devices to clean up the GOM. I know this is possible, because energy can be used to clean up dirty water, in general. Experiments need to be done.


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            • GoFrodo

              I don't expect these ideas to go anywhere, though. Most people won't entertain these thoughts in the least. Maybe that's being negative. I'm just trying to be realistic.


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            • GoFrodo

              From above link:
              "Cold fusion researchers are also running across strange elements popping up in their own electrified brews. No one is proposing to make gold and upset world currencies, but some experimenters aim to clean up radioactive waste by their novel processes."


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              • anne anne

                TRANSMUTATION OF RADIOACTIVE WASTES IS "NUCLEAR ALCHEMY GAMBLE"
                Hugely Expensive Technology Would Increase Rnvironmental, Health, Safety And Nuclear Proliferation Risks, New Report Says

                "’Asking the public for huge sums of money for new reactor research and development under the guise of radioactive waste management appears to be largely a scheme to perpetrate the nuclear power industry using public opposition to waste repositories as an excuse,’ said Dr. Arjun Makhijani, President of IEER. ‘Our research shows that the road will not only be costly and dangerous, but that it will also be a dead end. There is no magic bullet for solving the problem of long-lived nuclear waste.’

                “According to The Nuclear Alchemy Gamble, even transmutation proponents agree that many long-lived components of radioactive waste, such as cesium-135 and carbon-14, cannot be transformed into less dangerous forms because of fundamental limitations that cannot be overcome by technology development. Uranium, which makes up 94% of the mass of the spent fuel, cannot be transmuted because it would result in the production of even more plutonium. In some cases, the report notes, transmutation would create new and even more toxic transuranic radioactive materials, making the residual wastes far more dangerous per pound….”
                http://www.ieer.org/reports/transm/pressrel.html


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      • dtvedt

        For those saying 'what should we have done' and suggesting nobody every put forth any solutions… I wrote this in the months after the incident.

        http://otb.newsvine.com/_news/2011/04/29/6556606-a-viable-plan-for-emergency-containment-at-fukushima-support-this-campaign

        A few other articles in the column expounded on the idea furthered some of the concepts.

        FWIW, I'm a remediation engineer and have worked to cleanup several historic uranium mines (obviously a different scale, but I'm not sure I know any nuclear plant catastrophe radiation engineers that aren't Ukrainian.)

        https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Viable-Plan-for-Emergency-Containment-at-Fukushima-Support-this-Campaign/182248908488523

        I'm also over here… would love to hear feedback and comments.


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        • Bob Hardin Bob Hardin

          Thanks for your post. That's the kind of thing I had in mind, but I don't know if it will work. It might just increase the temperature of the corium.


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        • GoFrodo

          From the above-linked newsvine article:

          <blockquote text="The most feasible way of mitigating this magnificent atmospheric hazard is to push the nearby Fukushima landscape up against the sides of the reactor buildings, fill the reactor buildings with borax and sand, and then bury the reactor buildings under as much dirt as can be scraped from the nearby farmlands into a mountain of dirt over the entire complex. [...]"></blockquote>

          Yasuo Tanabe of Hitachi (I believe who made Unit 4 at Daiichi) wrote on March 22, 2011, on York University's "Safety Critical Mailing List":
          http://www.cs.york.ac.uk/hise/safety-critical-archive/2011/0243.html

          <blockquote text="I think that it is easy to put a very big wall around the nuclear plants.
          However, we have to think how we can save the lives of over 20,000
          people which were killed by this tsunami in broad areas.
          It is not easy to think to put high walls surrounding Japan."></blockquote>

          I don't know if that helps, but it was interesting that he said they could build a wall around the thing if they weren't so busy with the quake aftermath.


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      • enoughalready45 enoughalready45

        @ Bob

        Well Bob I am not a scientist so no I do not have any good ideas on how to actually stop multiple nuclear reactors that have melted down from continuing to do so or how to protect spent fuel pools exposed to the open air because their containment buildings have exploded away from melting down if they collapse during one of the unprecedented number of earthquakes that continue to shake the area. My apologies for complaining that my kid can’t play in the snow (over 100 cpm here in the Midwest USA yesterday) or drink milk or get caught in the rain. That the children of my friends in Japan may be damaged for life due to radiation exposure. And that like so many in Japan personal obligations and a lack of clarity on the part of the government keep them there. That I can’t get any accurate information from my government or the main stream media. I admit it I am just a big whiner.
        continued…


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        • enoughalready45 enoughalready45

          …continuted
          If you would like to elect me president of the world here is what I would do.

          First, protecting people and the Second, stopping the crisis.

          Evacuate a very large portion of Japan, including Tokyo immediately. Just as the Japanese have been called upon to “share” the burden of having radioactive waste burned in their communities. I would ask those in southern Japan to “share” the burden of their countrymen to the North by taking them in and finding ways to provide shelter for them. I would ask the countries of the world to take in Japanese refugees and to help provide transportation for them to those countries.
          [This goes along with my own personal plan of taking an “evacuation vacation” in the event that a nuclear accident happens near me. Remove yourself from harm and evaluate from a safe distance. You can always go back when safe, to collect personal items, to help or to sacrifice yourself for the greater good.]

          Implement complete transparency to the world about what was going on.

          Consult multiple groups of scientific minds from around the world. These groups of scientific minds already exist, (should I send the Japanese government a list), many of them probably have good ideas already but they haven’t been consulted. (This is what I mean by the asking the world for help.)
          I would declare the end of the nuclear age. This would let all those that dance between the regulatory agencies, nuclear power producers, media and government agencies know that we they were all working toward one common goal. There would be no more trying to “save face” or “protect your advertiser” or secure a job in the private sector etc…

          continued…


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        • enoughalready45 enoughalready45

          …continued

          I would declare in the spirit of “Truth and Reconciliation Commissions” that work to understand and learn from the past so that mistakes can be avoided in the future. That those that hid what was happening lied or distorted the nuclear industries faults would not be held accountable if they participated in letting the truth be known so the current situation could be remedied and other potential problems could be avoided.

          Haven’t thought about what I would do on the second day; maybe make sure the food and water supplies were safe. I know what a crazy idea!!

          Third day; Radioactive waste, what to do with it?? Help the president of the world has gone insane!!

          –end–


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        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

          @Bob Hardin..What you want to know.. is to what end.
          Perhaps it simply helps us to keep from suffering as voiceless human terrain.
          It allows us dignity as we accept our fate.
          PS.So..we are gonna fight to the end… any damn how…


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      • GoFrodo

        We cannot possibly complain enough to make up for the lack of awareness and truth in the media about the problem. And much of what goes on this site is actually productive discussion and background research that people need to understand the gravity of what's going on, the causes of it, the implications of it, and so forth.

        The Enenews community does important work! Some of that is complaining about the fact that the world is likely (for all practical purposes, for the time being, without some amazing intervention) irreparably poisoned for the rest of our lives. If people didn't complain, I'd think something was wrong.

        This site is a sanctuary of sanity!


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    • Misitu

      Couple of days back, Japanese gov insisting on Tepco taking bailout and nationalisation, Tepco refusing point blank.

      http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/73a67eec-5628-11e1-8dfa-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz1mNN0TDKP

      The government wants to give Tepco some money. Tepco don't want to give them voting rights in exchange. Tepco are, between the lines, threatening the electricity supply to Tokyo.

      Banks are included in the low-interest rate financing of the buyout.

      Endgame is for Gov to part nationalise the electric power supply industry.

      Tepco President will not demand cash without giving away voting rights. Ergo: other parties within the company/financiers oppose this.

      At leaset that's the way I read it. Comments clarification and contradiction welcome.

      also see, if it's allowed,

      http://video.ft.com/v/1450200130001/Decommission-Tepco

      Cheers
      M


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      • ion jean ion jean

        How bout treating TEPCO like the criminal org it IS???

        Then all assets can be confiscated and execs imprisoned…if for no other crime than a threat to Japanese national security (cause other countries are really pissed off now and might consider invasion if the environment weren't so toxic)

        In fact, that's probably the only reason Japan is still existing as a sovereign nation!

        If the Japanese can just get past their excrutiating politeness, something could be done with TEPCO

        STOP saying "Please" STOP asking, start TELLING


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  • dosdos dosdos

    Liar, liar, plant's on fire…..


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  • steve from virginia

    People don't understand about these 'reactors'.

    – They are not thermal reactors any more, no moderator exists within the fuel masses. These masses are piles of hot goo w/ fast neutrons activating U-238 as well as U-235 and Plutonium.

    – Chain reactions create Xe-135 which is a strong neutron poison.

    – The Xe-135 slows the chain reaction until it is 'burned up' (has absorbed as many neutrons as it can) then the chain reactions start up again creating more Xenon.

    – There is Xenon-135 AND increasing chain reaction there is BIG PROBLEM as the chain reaction can run-away without the Xenon being able to poison it.

    Because there is Xenon there is a chain reaction taking place, this is also indicated by the large amounts of steam inside the building and the increase in temperature.

    – It is possible/likely there is a critical mass of fertile material inside the reactor that cannot be reached by water or boric acid. If this is so, the hope is for the material to cool itself by magic.

    The next hope is for the fuel to reconfigure itself without violent explosion taking away the reactor building, the other cores and all that spent fuel.


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  • enoughalready45 enoughalready45

    For those of us non-science background people…

    131mXe, 133Xe, 133mXe, and 135Xe are some of the fission products of both 235U and 239Pu,[60] and therefore used as indicators of nuclear explosions.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenon


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    • hbjon hbjon

      I think there is a mistake. Gas is more than likely Krypton from the gargantuan amounts of Uranium there. Just an inert gas you can put in a balloon and breathe if you wanted. The other being Barium that is good over breakfast cereal in the morning. I'm immune to Radon because my basement is full of it and I've been breathing it for years. My dog had a rough time with it though and died a horrible cancerous death.


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  • patman

    Need another means to infer 'temperature' in these conditions rather than thermometer?

    patio888, in Centre Wellington Canada, says "no problem."

    Pump a known velocity of inert gas into the pressure vessel and measure velocity on the outflow, thereby determining gas expansion while inside.

    This velocity measurement would infer temperatures by the expansion of the inert gas. Inert gas is subject to 'Charles's law' by operating a simple calculation of "V1T2=V2T1."

    A device constructed of a sealed tantalum probe tube with a smaller diameter internal tantalum tube suppling a velocity of inert gas. Measure differential of inlet and outlet through a 'curved tube coriolis flow meters' on the inlet side and another mass flow meter on the outlet side.

    An accurate temperature reading is calculated by "V1T2=V2T1" inferred through velocity change.

    By modulating the flow rates a system entropy loss diagram can be built. for this specific alternative temperature measuring system.

    Simple.

    So, why is everybody so stupid?

    Am I the world's smartest man?

    If so, we are all in a lot of trouble.

    Looking for work, tired of freezing my petunias off to pay my mortgage. Any offers? Resume is flying, now just looking for a target. Hack my email address, it's easy.


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    • hbjon hbjon

      Wow Patman! Your definitely up there with the Einsteins, Newtons, and Feinman's in the world. The problem is finding someone that can get close enough to the thing to conduct your little experiment. The radon must be pouring out of there at a tremendous rate about now. Polonium is continually being generated where you have uncontained Uranium. Wasting time with frivolous experiments is counterproductive. I suspect that people are only put in harms way when they can make a positive difference.


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      • patman

        I was hoping you wouldn't confirm how stupid our industrial problem solvers are and I hope you read the bitterest of sarcasm in my post.

        Heaven help us if I am the world's smartest man; our standards couldn't possibly be that low.

        As for the 'experiment', I am asking "must we use thermocouples?" To get close to the problem use the same rig utilized to drill a hole in Fk-1 r2.

        Or a long stick. Innovate.

        I'm not Jesus Christ and I can't think of everything.

        For heaven's sake will someone scrap these nuclear "engineers" and "professors" out of their leather chairs and send their penguin asses to work out solutions with their brains?

        Instead of working with their 'Doctorate' mouths when these men lie to victims of the greatest industrial accident in history?


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    • In theory your suggestion is a very good one… in the real world maybe not. Unfortunately there are so many leaks and holes that they cannot know how much gas escapes from the vessel, making an expansion calculation uncertain at best, and impossible at worst. Also the presence of other gases, liquids, and solids in addition to the inert gas they would inject would throw more uncertainty into the equation. Finally, the vessel and anything inside are at widely different temperatures depending on where fuel is, where water reaches, and other factors. So the inert gas would not give any indication of hot spots, just the average temperature of the whole volume of gas… even if they COULD reliably eliminate the leaks and other issues. TEPCO is over their heads, along with humankind. That said, they need help from outside. The first step is telling the truth.


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      • dosdos dosdos

        In a perfect closed state vessel, yes. But as with the ideal gas law, the real world alters the hypothetical variables with open state events. And Unit 2 is very open state, though not as open as 1, 3, and 4.

        It has been considered briefly, as an "if only" possibility.


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      • patman

        I was speaking more of a device that was sealed, similar to a 'heat pipe', that could be pushed into an existing thermowell or a even a hole in the vessel. But infra-red imaging and analyses of escaping inert gas is another way to avoid thermocouples.

        Great suggestion, dosdos.

        Modulate the flow of gas several times to produce a graph of varying exit temperatures. use the pencil and paper graph to gain an understanding of this system's entropy and dynamics.

        Then get some damn temperature readings.

        Regular folks own this temperature problem for half a day and come up with two alternatives.

        We don't need a Ph.D. to see a real problem with coy Japanese nuclear engineers and professors, do we?


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    • CaptD CaptD

      TEPCO does not want to measure because then TEPCO will "know"…

      This is all about deniability!

      TEPCO is one of the gang controlled Company that is running Japan…


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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    Our friend Mochizuki says he talked on the phone to a nuclear worker.
    He said temp at unit 2 is around 300°C at the moment – it could explode around 600-700°C.
    check fuku Diary for dtails


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  • Dr. Awesome Dr. Awesome

    I heard two schools of thought regarding half-life interpretations.
    First, multiply the half-life by 10. This will encompass the majority of the radionuclides. The remainder will be considered negligible or non-detect.
    Second, multiply the half-life by 20. This calculation is more thorough. Thought being that no radiation is safe. Again, the remainder will be considered negligible.
    In theory, the radioactive particles will never disappear entirely in either case.

    1.Xe-135 9hr.x10=90hr. 90hr./24hr.=3.75 days

    2.Xe-135 9hr.x20=180hr. 180hr./24hr.=7.5 days

    Also, the radionuclides at Fukushima are being continuously released so the values are constantly changing for the "Life Cycle" of the radionuclides.

    In conclusion, the fission event occurred ~7.5 days ago to present. Thoughts?


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  • ueda_jiro ueda_jiro

    Our house is full of radon, my wife has hashimoto's hypothyroidism and a poor immune system.

    Our nieghbour also has thyroid problems.

    Maybe theres something in this low dose of long periods of time still being harmfull?

    hell yeh!


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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    Don't know why, I can't forget or-well's lines
    "the anti-nuclear bunny
    wants grandkids with ears
    and a future that's sunny"


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  • StillJill StillJill

    I know why,…because it's the ROOT of what we're loosing. Bunnys with ears,…and our children or Grand children having sunny days,…and fun thoughts in their precious little heads! That's all gone.


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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    Question: why is it that on the older handouts the destection limit for Xenon135 is 9.9×10-2 or similar, and today it's 2.6×10-2?? There are some differences in detection limits from yesterday to today.
    Are they using more sensitive instruments?
    If so, it would mean that the xenon was "below detection limit" the other days just because their devices weren't sensitive enough, right?


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    • Myme

      Last November when Xenon135 was detected, TEPCO's detection limit was about 1.0×10-1Bq/cm3. This time it is 9.5×10-2Bq/cm3.

      Pardon me I'm not a scientist just a house wife, but isn't this almost 10,000 times less sensitivity? TEPCO's Japanese PDF reports show various detection limits 9.4×10-2Bq/cm3, 9.3×10-2Bq/cm3, etc., depending on the day. It seems they're trying to diminish the Xe-135 numbers. What other reaons could it be?

      If you apply the last November's detection limit sensitivity, the current Xenon135 level is … over 9000 times higher… is my calculation correct?


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    • ENENews

      I replied to this comment on the other post:

      "Hey B&B I too am curious. I bet if we asked http://enformable.com they'd be willing to do an analysis of past data on detection limits — and maybe even the equipment used. I've been busy on other projects so if anyone has time, post a comment over there about this topic and let's get the ball rolling."


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  • jackassrig

    Well Charles Law is an ideal gas law. That inert gas may or may not be close to an ideal gas particularly when it mixed in with God knows what inside that reactor if the reactor even exists. That's the reason we have compressibility factors and the like because these gases are not ideal.


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    • patman

      There is a limit to what exists inside that vessel and it is a short list of predominate gases.

      Use partial pressures of the present gases in their varying proportions. that should be enough to tell us whether the temperature is 90C or 400C, right?

      We already know there is no laughing gas in that mess; with the souls we're stacking there is nothing funny about Fk-1 r2.

      Let's work the problem.


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  • jahdesm jahdesm

    just in fukushima diary:the heating gauge is not broken at reactor 2 it shows over 300 degrees celsius and the reactor will explode when temperature goes at 600-700 celsius .source is: fukushima diary


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  • jec

    Lack of Action and complaints. Yes, its a Keystone Cop situation–North American countries..USA/Canada..and even Mexico (Jet Stream dips south sometimes) better set up monitoring devices and develop a plan for citizens. The concept I tell my family — watch the long distance weather, when jetstream is pushing overhead..stay inside (out of rain/snow). Filter water. Wear coverups/masks..leave all clothes exposed–outside along with shoes. Use Hepa filters in the home, seal windows and doors. Keep dust down..and so on. Foods/water..filter water only, foods from S. America or at least not from W. Coast N. America. OR New England areas. East of the mountains better than West of the Rockies for lower radiation. There needs to be an idea of WHAT to do..should the worse happen..which it easily can.


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  • CaptD CaptD

    People in the Western World, need to reexamine the "way" they view Japan and that includes not only how that Country is governed but what actual "say" the Japanese people have in their Governments process!

    It has taken almost a year to realize that Japan is actually being "run" by its Powerful Utility Companies and this "business" relationship extends in a "Control Continuum" that extends at one end, from actual Utility direct financial support of the highest Government Leaders in the Country, to the widely known use of organized gangs to keep citizens in line at the other!

    The idea that individual Japanese people actually have a say in how they are governed, much less the way their Energy is generated, is just a well publicized fantasy that the Utilities uses to put a nuclear "smily face" on the grim reality that ever facet of Japanese life is less important than what is good for these Utilities! These Powerful Utilities ARE Japan, and the Japanese people are only "forced" customers of these Utilities since they have no other choice of providers when it come to basic needs like electricity, at lest until now! Solar panels have allowed many to get the electricity they need and this is a huge threat to these Utilities, that must be "crushed" ASAP if they are to maintain their complete control over the Japanese people!


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  • CaptD CaptD

    Ever since 3/11, the rest of the World's attention has been focused on the Trillion Dollar Eco-Disaster at Fukushima and Japan's response to their triple melt down. What we have learned is that the Government has allowed TEPCO to not only remain in Control of this debacle but they have actually enabled the Utility to place huge numbers of Japanese citizens at risk rather than demand that the Utility think first of human health instead of Corp. shareholder profits. The fact that radioactive pollution has now spread Globally and is affecting the rest of the Planet is hardly mentioned in MSM which points to an even greater problem for the rest of mankind; we are helpless and as yet unable to demand any "better" treatment from Japan because our own Leaders are for the most part are in full support of the those Utility backed Leaders in Japan.

    Kudos to Germany and many other Countries for pointing the finger at Nuclear Power and the Trillion Dollar Eco-Disaster RISK every nuclear complex now represents! People globally now are becoming informed and starting to demand answers to basic questions and once people start asking questions perhaps change will occur, even if not for the Japanese themselves… one thing is for certain, the Japanese people will be affected by their Trillion Dollar Eco-Disaster for much longer than the estimated 40 to 100 years that it will take to "tidy up" after Fukushima…


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  • CaptD CaptD

    11 Months and counting!

    The Japanese people and many of those of the rest of the World,
    … wait in fear because of what TEPCO and the Japanese Gov't.
    … are trying to make money instead of stopping this Eco-Disaster…

    That is the bottom line and no amount of Nuclear Baloney (NB) type
    … "reports or reviews or Nuclear theory" makes that any better.

    Do any of US actually know what the situation is on the ground?

    I sure don't, but I know that because TEPCO has lied, concealed data
    … and played the Japanese People's SAFETY down, while trying to save
    … TEPCO profits instead, we all have much to fear from THEM!

    If someone told me 11 MONTHS ago that I would be sitting on the edge
    … of my chair, and blogging to save the Japanese people from their Utility
    … TEPCO & their Gov't. overseers I would have thought they were crazy!

    This is a nuclear nightmare
    … And N☢T just for the Japanese, but the Planet!


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  • bleep_hits_blades

    CaptD is right!

    But it is not just Japan.

    Gangs of criminals control the governments (& big corporations) of the world. This is not exaggeration. They do not have our best interests at heart. They control the centers of power & at this point they still control most of the minds of the people – & are increasing their control of the people in every way they can. (check out infowars.com)

    As they say, to solve the problem, you need to understand the problem.

    The problem is that this is strictly a power situation & I don't see we the people having any real power – we could, if more of us were up to speed on the realities, the Realpolitik – but right now, we do not have 'critical mass' in terms of a big enough bloc of informed people, in the USA or in Japan or in any country.

    "If wishes were horses, beggars would ride; if turnips were watches, I'd have one by my side."

    Also – Pandora's box is open. It is late to fix things. As we know, the damage is done & continuing, & about all we or Tepco or anyone can do is stand by & watch. Tepco has got to look busy & in charge, or try to.

    SFP 4 is going to collapse, that is almost a certainty. The corium from the meltdown reactors is underground, moving. We are probably going to see hydrogen explosions & nuclear explosions. I am not a scientist, but it seems that these facts are pretty self-evident.

    Up until now, in all of human history, a controlling elite has gained control & run things in their interests, 'farming' the working people like a kind of livestock, for the value of their labor. In all these millennia, that has not changed.

    So will it, can it, change now? Look at the people around you in your work, your neighborhood. How much awareness do you see out there?

    They can't evacuate Japan, or Hawaii, or the West Coast of the USA. They can't fix the problems. About all they can do is PR.

    They COULD say NO to nuclear power – but even that they will not do unless forced.


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  • enoughalready45 enoughalready45

    During the beginning of the nuclear accident in March. Xenon and Krypton gases in clouds over the USA were 40,000 times higher than normal. They are fat soluble and decay quickly to Cesium and Strontium, respectively and cause a lot of cellular damage as they decay.
    From a conversation between Arnie Gundersen and Dr. Helen Caldicott.
    http://ifyoulovethisplanet.org/

    Also, from same conversation…"The population of Fukushima Prefecture is approximately 4 million people."


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  • vital1

    People need to be informed before they can take action. If they are informed they can take steps to protect themselves, and their families. Like the 100th monkey, once the numbers get to a certain point, you get momentum for change across the whole of society.

    Once the majority of the human race is focused on the true nature of the problem, it can then come up with proper solutions, and mass action on a world wide scale.


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