Published: July 22nd, 2011 at 10:10 am ET
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Plugging reactors no longer stated goal for Tepco, Japan Times, July 20, 2011:
[...] A cold shutdown is usually defined as bringing the temperature of the reactor-core coolants to below 100 degrees. But this has been redefined as bringing the temperature at the bottom of the pressure vessels to below 100 degrees and reducing the release of radioactive materials from the reactors [...]
Published: July 22nd, 2011 at 10:10 am ET
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As much as I DO believe all that, I just can’t “go there” presently. Yes I know all about it…but it’s already hard enough tackling the Nuclear Cheerleaders @ HP WITH FACTS about Japan. To step into THAT area, the attacks would really come out. That’s a NO GO imo, at least for me. Thanks anyway!
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thank you, Whoopie, all.
http://realityceck.no-ip.info/
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Just some friendly advice…
Why don’t you do some research on the owner(s) of HP, their background, and who they are affiliated with.
Once you are truly enlightened I suspect you will no longer feel the need to waste your time there.
(remember, not the names but rather their backgrounds)
Peace,
Vitruvian Man a.k.a. fellow traveler in the cosmos.
“Ouch! Just bumped my nose on the matrix.”
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Funny cause they just re-defined ‘murder’; In the same respects…
Anyone else notice that?
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corium must be lurking in the basement or foundations then cos they didnt mention about the corium…hmmmm!
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Just an fyi…
If the seattle data was ‘A ok’.
The people hosting that data, would be able to disclose it publicly.
The only reason to withhold it is the implication of its findings… (which must be intolerable); So much so, they would rather employ criminal omission on a global scale, than explain them selves to the tax paying citizens of their nations.
Thats like getting pulled over. While appearing as if you were on drugs, at the same time: Your also attempting to assure the officer that theres no reason to search your car…
So I feel its safe to say, Seattle is a post apocalyptic, nuclear nightmare.
Anyone with me on that note?
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There needs to be a news conference at which the independent scientists that have been examining air filters from Seattle present their findings. There isn’t time for peer review in scientific journals. Let this be fought out in public, as it is the public who will ultimately pay if these findings are correct. What will we do then? What will we need to do to ensure the safety of our environments, foodstuffs, bodies? We would have to restructure to meet the needs of the public. Isn’t that they are really afraid of? An actual government of the people, by the people, for the people. (And by “they” I mean the ones irreproachably making a killing off us now.)
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Criminal Omission, No doubt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omission_%28criminal_law%29
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Forum posters, please check this out! I did a query for Plutonium 238 (air filter) for the state of Ohio, years 1990-2011. These were the findings:
http://oaspub.epa.gov/enviro/erams_query_v2.simple_output?Llocation=State&subloc=OH&media=AIR-FILTER&radi=Plutonium-238&Fromyear=1990&Toyear=2011&units=Traditional
Not being a scientist, why was Plutonium 238 detected in these Ohio cities, and specifically, Cleveland, Ohio, on Christmas Eve (Dec. 31st) of several years prior to 2011?? Yet, they didn’t find Plutonium 238 in the Ohio air after the Fuku nuclear crisis! Am I missing something here??
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it may have been a release from a reactor or particulates from waste removal! at vermont yankee for instance a greenpeace article said that a shipment of acceptable levels of radiation of contaminated lead plates when it left another reactor site, had mysterioucly gone over the limit by the time it reached vermont yankee oct 2008. the authorities are still not sure how this happened?????????? i think it happens all the time! i mean until they find out how it happened they cant do anything to stop it, right? interesting find i hope someone can connect it with a specific release or transport! well done
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Thanks, arclight! You can look up any radionuclide and query for results. I queried for Cesium-137 and found it in pasteurized milk in Ohio for many previous years prior to the Fuku nuclear crisis.
Here’s the query page:
http://iaspub.epa.gov/enviro/erams_query_v2.simple_query
It makes sense that they would release the waste products in December of all months, but if true, I am a dead person walking. I’ve been opening the windows in my house daily throughout even the winter months for the past eight years. (and getting a lot of flak from family members, too) Well, nice knowing you all and I really enjoyed your posts. I’ve probably been inhaling this radiated air for a long time.
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Interestingly, I know several people with lung cancer who never smoked a cigarette in their life! One lady is a real physical fitness buff and watches everything that she eats.
Crazy, too, is the fact that I had a metallic taste in my mouth and nausea for several years prior to 2010. I need a physical.
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This article is dated 1/24/03:
Monitoring Nuclear Reactors
Ohio’s Davis-Besse Nuclear Power Station was shut down last year because of the most extensive corrosion ever discovered at a nuclear power plant. The facility was closed after workers found a six-by-five inch cavity in its reactor head that eventually could have caused a meltdown — the closest the U.S. has come to a nuclear accident since Three Mile Island in 1979. This week FirstEnergy, which operates the plant, postponed a scheduled refueling of the reactor, which once supplied electricity to 150,000 people. “Close Call” investigates the Davis-Besse incident to uncover whether industry profits were put before public safety and examines concerns about the Nuclear Regulatory Commission’s ability to effectively monitor all of the nation’s nuclear reactors.
Currently, there are 103 (104 if Davis-Besse comes back on-line) commercial nuclear reactors producing electricity in the United States, located at 64 sites in 31 states. Today, nuclear power plants — the second largest source of electricity in the U.S. — supply about 20% of the nation’s electricity each year.
http://www.pbs.org/now/science/davisbesse.html
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Below is a query for Plutonium-238 (air filter) for Indiana:
http://oaspub.epa.gov/enviro/erams_query_v2.simple_output?Llocation=State&subloc=IN&media=AIR-FILTER&radi=Plutonium-238&Fromyear=1978&Toyear=2011&units=Traditional
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to second largest source at 20 percent. i have read in official uk nuke documents the figure of just 15 percent and the lowest ive seen was 8 percent! its a nuclear joke on all us tax payers however you read the figures…and with shutdowns at the moment it is likely to be less!! and with drought conditions it is likeky to be less in the future! nice research terra1!
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Another article about Davis Besse plant in Toledo, Ohio:
http://www.cleveland.com/mediakit/content.ssf?/powerplants/plaindealer/index.ssf?/powerplants/more/103355116249800.html
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Another article about the Davis Besse workers:
http://www.cleveland.com/newslogs/rockhall/index.ssf?/powerplants/plaindealer/index.ssf?/powerplants/more/15.html
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This is interesting. If you do a query for Vermont (air filter) for the years 1987-2011, you can only select Iodine-131, Field Beta Radiation Estimate, or Gross Beta.
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Here’s a shock – Strontium in pasteurized milk in one Ohio city!
http://oaspub.epa.gov/enviro/erams_query_v2.simple_output?Llocation=City&subloc=CLEVELAND%2COH&media=PASTEURIZED+MILK&radi=Strontium-90&Fromyear=1978&Toyear=2011&units=Traditional
When they can’t find Cesium-137 or Iodine-131 in pasteurized milk, they haven’t even checked for Strontium.
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Here’s Strontium in pasteurized milk for Vermont:
http://oaspub.epa.gov/enviro/erams_query_v2.simple_output?Llocation=State&subloc=VT&media=PASTEURIZED+MILK&radi=Strontium-90&Fromyear=1978&Toyear=2011&units=Traditional
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i did a post on moonkais recent video and the scientist claimed that there was as much strntium released as ceasium! makes you wonder how they have only been reporting ceasium? strontium is harder to test for but if you have a gram of ceasium you have a gram of strontium! qoute
“We have said Geiger Counters cannot measure or detect the presence of alpha emitters like Plutonium and Uranium or beta emitters like Tritium and Strontium 90. This remains true but it is very likely that those contaminants will arrive together with gamma emitters like Caesium 137. ”
so when your reading 1.2 milisievert in gamma radiation you can estimate in this case that there is an equal amount of beta from the strontium…im sure prof neutron might clarify/refute !!
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TEPCO also announce they would shortly issue redefinitions of the following:
meltdown
danger
radiation
power generation
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also redifining
japan
beef
pears
lady gaga
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redefining:
childhood
genocide
human
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redefining:
safety
preventative measures
healthcare
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Redefining:
Common sense
Fog
Truth
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The San Juan islands are between Victoria, seattle and Vancouver so would probably have similar readings. They probably get less rain. Hope the resident Orca pods survive this mess.
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They are in la-la land as we know well. There is no getting close to those container vessels to fix the holes. Probably the holes the corium seeped out are the control rod holes anyway which was normal for those reactors…the boron rods were inserted from below on these BWRs.
Because of massive radiation forget fixing them for ten years unless the three Blobs crawl out of the concrete pad areas and Blobs 1, 2, 3 leave their respective buildings. The cool thing is that then they could actually see the enemy! The bad thing is the Blobs will probably kill the Northern Hemisphere.
The good thing for Kan is he said he won’t resign until the problems are resolved, The bad thing for Japan is he will collect about 120 more monthly paychecks to help his family buy imported food and water. *;-) Sucks huh? I would respect him more if he had led a coalition to nationalize Tepco. Should have been done after the second week of the crisis. Tepco can’t handle this problem and the Japanese government reminds me of their actions in WWII all over again. Squabbling and lying to themselves and the people of the world.
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I’m with you Tacoma,…Seattle, Alaska, Hawaii, and parts of B.C. seem like hotter spots than most-IMO. But, that is only based on little true numbers, wrong numbers, lies, and conjecture. But, the numbers that connectingdots came up with recently up in B.C. are equally concerning to me. Basically, anywhere rain fell got . California sure got it’s doses, to be sure. But I think Seattle did get it the worst.
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BC got hit really hard by radiation. People there should evacuate to Eastern Ontario, Quebec or Atlantic provinces. I am Toronto and did not feel much radiation the last month.
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I’m in the Toronto area. I’ve had small nosebleeds since March–nothing unusual in low humidity–and a strong metallic taste in my mouth after eating organic vegetables from the neighbours’ garden. We won’t escape this, the prevailing winds brought the poison to Lake Ontario a few days after BC was hit. I am sick and tired of seeing all the projections end with BC and California, as if the rest of the continent did not matter.
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Are not the San Juan Islands up in the middle of the jetstream firehose blast too? Do we have any more numbers or readings that we can get our hands on?
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Hi Jill,
I think the readings look something like this now:
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Otherwise, the hot particle count is going to be the same as Seattle. You’ll likely get high spot readings in some places.
Wondering if connectingdots1 could do a reading on his way back, but that might not be for another two or more weeks (he’s just crossing Alberta and headed East).
Or, there must be at least one person there with a Geiger counter?
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I think we missed her, she is sleeping by now !
Where I should be, and I will listen to my words !
Good nite all !
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Good nite! (I’m just starting my Saturday…)
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No need to plug the holes, the cat is already out of the bag.
Read between the lines, the things they don’t say are the most important.
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BP disaster lies still exceed TEPCO lies
when oil/tarballs were found the origin had to be proven to be from the spill and not natural seeps or passing ships.
In Japan the radiation leaking is always assumed to be from one just place and not some other source.
Japan still has a way to go before they reach the bottom and claim top prize for biggest assholes on the planet.
USA USA
were #1
besides your radiation can’t reach the USA anyway
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Reading for rain in Red Deer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIVQo367SR0&feature=share
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couple of links
Contrary to power company figures, cost of nuclear power generation highest: research July 24, 2011
“Tohoku Electric Power Co. boasts nuclear power’s economic efficiency, while Hokkaido Electric Power Co (HEPCO) the stability of its cost. Each site comes with bar graphs indicating the cost of generating power through various power sources, and the figures are exactly the same regardless of the utility. For every kilowatt-hour of power generated, hydroelectricity is listed as costing 11. 9 yen, petroleum 10.7 yen, liquefied natural gas 6.2 yen, coal 5.7 yen, and nuclear 5.3 yen.
In a section of its website responding to questions sent in by elementary school children, Chubu Electric Power Co. informs us that nuclear power “is the cheapest.” The media, including the Mainichi, have often cited the information provided to us by power companies.
However, Kenichi Oshima, a professor of environmental economics and policy at Ritsumeikan University, has done some calculations and has reached a completely difference conclusion. Oshima says that the cost for a kilowatt-hour of electrical power between fiscal 1970 and fiscal 2007 was 10.68 yen for nuclear, 3.98 yen for hydroelectric, and 9.9 yen for thermal generation, with nuclear-generated power coming out as the most expensive. These calculations were even presented at a meeting of the government’s Atomic Energy Commission last September. So how does one explain these two different conclusions?”
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/features/news/20110723p2a00m0na011000c.html
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Saturday, July 23, 2011
#Radiation in Fukushima City Order of Magnitude Higher Than Official Numbers?
“U-drain at an elementary school 56.9 microsieverts/hour; Fukushima Prefectural Government building 20.8 microsieverts/hour, Fukushima Railroad Station 2.4 to 22.4 microsieverts/hour. “Hot spot” everywhere. The Doshisha researcher was surprised to see these numbers. Does Fukushima City residents know about this?
I couldn’t find the official radiation number for the Fukushima Prefectural Government building. The radiation at the Fukushima City Hall, about 1 kilometer away, is 0.95 microsievert/hour as of July 23”
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/07/radiation-in-fukushima-city-order-of.html
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A must see ! Famous writer Hirose Takeshi and 90 other influential people are suing Edano, Hosono, Dr Yamashita, the whole TEPCO gang including Shimizu (he won’t get away with murder) and are calling (rightfully so) crimes against Japanese citizens ! The fight is ON !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR3t01eIeNs&NR=1
”everybody is cooperating in killing our children. There is no apologies for this !!” I love that guy !!
There is still hope for people to wake up!
I am so happy to hear this I am going to open a bottle of bubbly !!
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Nice post moonkai! Have one for me!
He says…. Prof. Yamashita took up the position of health advisor on th 20th march during this emergency period. On the 21st he began his radioactivity safety campaign. And in April was joined by Kenji Kamiya and Noburu Takamura. He says that these three guys were saying that up to 100 milisievert was no risk to human beings, which means that they have permitted children to become victims of radioactive pollution. Hence they are criticised by people all over the country., but I want to make it clear that this is a crime that they are doing! I have just recently heard in Fukushima that parents with high awareness, have been telling thier children not to eat any shitake mushrooms or bamboo sprouts, when the children got their lunch! They separated the mushrooms and bamboo sprouts as they had been told, but then their [teacher?] was yelling eat this!! And forced them to eat everything!
This is now what I occouring in our countryand this is happening because of Yamashita. Because the ministry of education and science is backing this! Why do we allow this to happen?
Everybody is cooperating to kill our children! There is no apology for this!
Questions from audience
“the newspapers and other menia are reporting about all different radioactive substances like caesium, but isn’t plutonium, the most dangerous substance in this scenario? Isn’t it the alpha waves like in depleted uranium ammunition used in Iraq, or in plutonium?”
Reply
“ I am now more afraid of strontium than plutonium, since the quantity of strontium that had been in the reactor is supposed to have been the same as that of caesium! We must not assume that the strontium has not leaked; it has just not yet been detected.
Enormous amounts of strontium must have flown into the ocean. The dilemma of the current situation is that we don’t know yet what is where? I do not know either! What I found out when I went to fukushima recently: the problem is that fish is distributed throughout japan! You can buy such fish in the south of Japan in Kyushu. People in western Japan are feeling safe because of the distance, but they are eating such fish. Honestly speaking, I have not sufficiently found out what is going on now. The actual reality is that awareness is very low and our desire for feeling safe is definitely very strong. This is the current situation.”
any english translated stuff from this guy would definately be interesting! as much strontium as ceasium! not good, didnt realise that! peace
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Moonkai, those are fantastic news. FINALLY a ray of hope in all this despair.
Thanks & cheers!
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Where is the Strontium … Plutonium … Tellurium 132 … Uranium etc … The truth will come soon ! Japanese all over the net are fighting back. The govt has spent millions of yens to monitor Twiter ! But the truth WILL come out … it wants to come out ! The war is raging and the people of Japan are gaining momemtum! We will win.
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Tellurium132 was detected in Aizu on 7/20/2011. Tellurium is produced from melted fuel rods,and its half life time is pretty short (3.2 days).It means, melted fuel rods are still “exposed” to “outside” and keeps emitting Tellurium into the atmosphere. And what else ?
http://tetsuro999.blog.eonet.jp/default/2011/07/132-a30d.html
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Dr Busby is officially on my heroes list.
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Moonkai – To answer you question, “And what else?” It’s a damned long list and yes, it’s all being emitted, every second, of every minute, of every hour, of every day since the melt down occured. It sucks to be any or all of us…..
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Anti nuke protests all over Japan … all the way down to Okinawa !
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moonkai, that’s really fantastic. I thought we’d never see this. Thank you so much for keeping us updated!
Are there any websites where we could see those protesters? I’d love to…
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No nuke protests in Tokyo.
A sight for sore eyes.
Moonkai is right, something’s getting started there. YES.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDnJQcjVpIo
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Even the mayor of Setagaya (part of Tokyo manifested with the protestors) . This is awesome ! I will post some pics as soon as I get my hands on it …
They are waking up !!
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Stick it to them ! The mayor of Fukushima shi yesterday declared Fukushima is safe (LIARS) —> Elementary school 56.9 microS/h; Fukushima Prefectural Government building 20.8 microsieverts/hour, Fukushima Railroad Station 2.4 to 22.4 microsieverts/hour. “Hot spot” everywhere. The Doshisha researcher was surprised to see these numbers. Does Fukushima City residents know about this? Now they do !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVuGwc9dlhQ&feature=youtu.be
yes yes ! FUCK THEM !
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moonkai,
that’s another video to be spread “las conchas style”!!
Arnie Gundersen also has it linked from the Fairewinds site, many will see it there looking for info. Great.
*B&B = happy bunny
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I am so happy today !! On top of that, in two days, a Japanese friend of mine and I are meeting to finalize the launch of the movement “EVACUATE FUKUSHIMA” … It involves lots people and journalists friends of mine from Bloomberg and NHK, Celebrities and all the most active association to save the children of Fukushima … even the communist party (no I am not a REDster) … we are going to stick our message so far down their throat, they’re gonna feel it is another episode of Bush choking on a pretzel! I am printing TShirts, throwing a huge charity (awareness)event with hundreds of people and before you know it, we will all march down the streets of Tokyo and all over Japan. I am making also a video. I would need someone’s help here on ENENEWS to gather a few datas if you guys have time. What I first need is short clips of all the events that have taken place at Daichi from May to July (steam/ vapors/ fire …without the fog …..lol). We must act now … the momentum is building! I am going to hit all the embassies in Tokyo and all the press people I know! I am even gonna involve the Yakuzas (the good ones)! It is going to be awesome. Then when I am finished, I am going to Barcelona and eat some taps ans drinking Sangria !
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You are truly THE MAN, moonkai.
I am very happy to witness all the progress you’re making over there. It must be hard for you, with your family already evacuated and all…and instead of just running away, you make the effort to organise events and make the best use of the contacts you have.
I am really, honestly, deeply impressed.
Please take loads of pictures / videos and post the links.
Can I make a donation to get one of the t-shirts? I’m serious, i WANT to get my hands on a moonkai charity shirt.
You can send it to me when you’re in Europe, makes the shipping cheaper..LOL
*B&B = even happier bunny
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Thank you ! Well I have nothing to loose anymore … I lost everything ! So, now I am in a “I don’t give a shit” spirit, which I believe is the best feeling in the world … on top of that, the response for this week has been incredible! And that mean they want to fight back ! The little I can do, I will …then I have no choice but to leave! I have to take care of my own family.
Step 1; ALert or confirm everyone’s fear in Fukushima through various associations and combined all the petitions outhere into one massive one to be delivered to the govt, Tepco and all the usual suspects as well as all the residents of Fukushima. (in charge my Japanese friend)
Step 2; Raise quickly awareness and get help from the international communities, Embassies, CRIIAD, Greenpeace etc … They will ALL help! (I and other friends will be in charge of that that one)
Step 3; Bringing the international community to protest with local Japanese in Tokyo …and maybe one day all over Japan ! (everyone)
Step 4; Evacuating Tokyo … sadly I won’t be around for that one ! If I can, I will be gone long before that one
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As for the TShirts, they will be cool looking !
V neck, dark grey with the obvious “EVACUATE FUKUSHIMA”… and I will send you one for free !
Should be ready by next week !
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I CAN’T WAIT
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Moonkai I have an idea for a montage to Fuku its like this a simple date and label of which reactor/SPF pool is exploding like picture of reactor 3 poppin off and just reactor 3 and date of explosion- But edit the explosions faster and faster then start adding the phase no danger stay calm! also articles with main ideas high lited like all 4 nuke reactors have PROBABLY melted thru their cores and now lay outside on the floors of the drywells….According to TEPCO then show date hit a big drum next article…..Show what freakin liars the Nukkers are by pointing to the dates that show other articles where they are gaining control and the dates they say this happened – the talk of reactor cooling when no reactors exist anymore!- The water release in the groundwater the sea and end with all the babies dying in Japan the states mex and CANADA- That should get the point across-
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uughhh … When I said “they will all help”, not sure about all the embassies yet! But will try my hardest !
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Wow … that was a big earthquake right now !
Still going !
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Yes, I see it…JMA says upper 5…on the sea at Fuku coast…fingers crossed.
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Type: Earthquake
19 minutes ago
Magnitude: 6.2
DateTime: Sunday July 24 2011, 18:51:25 UTC
Region: near the east coast of Honshu, Japan
Depth: 35.6 km
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MAP 6.2 2011/07/24 18:51:25 37.758 141.540 35.6 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
This earthquake is 46.3 mi (74.57 km) from Fukushima Daiichi (#1) Nuclear Power Plant using the USGS coordinates for this quake.
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Ugh…looks nasty on the timelapse video at 03:51
http://www.youtube.com/fuku1live#p/u/0/-BkaCmjIC4s
hard to imagine nothing’s broken
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After the shake #4 seems to billow away as usual, however, look at #3… Right after the shake a nice plume arises. Something was stirred up for sure.
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icone, thanks for looking into it…I didn’t follow the cam too closely the last days. I’ll have a look at no 3 then.
I’m SO fed up with the beasts.
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icone, you’re right. fluffy plume from unit 3 after the shake. Deeep MOX breath.
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I’ve been an avid cam watcher since the early days, before the Tepco time-lapses were available I made many myself from the NHK feed. I haven’t posted here for quite a while, but I’ve stayed tuned in. I create time-lapses as part of what I do for a living, I’ve always been fascinated with how one can see “big-picture” patterns and fluctuations when time is sped-up or slowed. In my opinion, the Tepco Cam time-lapses (if unaltered) are our best way to really SEE the actual situation at fukushima. Combined with the technical expertise of some of the other Enenews community members (and even some TEPCO data) we can make some pretty solid observations, theories, and conclusions about the real status of the reactors.
For anyone who doesn’t watch the TepcoCam thread, I’d also like to highlight the wonderful, and extremely important observations Anne has made regarding correlations between earthquakes and vapor releases as viewed on the time-lapses. Looking up earthquake data and matching it to video is tedious work. Thank you for doing it. I thought Annes observations regarding local and shallow earthquake activity (a while ago) right below the plants were especially poignant.
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Put yer roller skates on Moonkai and hang on!
Prayers are with you and all who are in Japan right now.
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http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/
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Check lifecam: more smoke / steam over unit 4 than usual?? Or not?
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You ROCK moonkai!!!!!!
Keep that spitfire in your belly my compassionate friend!
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keep up the good work mookai!!! were all routing for you @admin any chance of a protest type headline for us to stick all the ngo links, protest videos etc on for posterity?
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excellent idea!!
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[night all......]
peace
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