Published: March 10th, 2013 at 2:10 pm ET
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Title: Path to Recovery: TEPCO Exclusive Interview
Source: NHK
Date: March 4, 2013
h/t MsMilkytheclown1
At 4:15 in
NHK: Can we really say that the decommissioning process will end within 40 years?
Akira Kawano, Tepco General Manager: It’s very difficult to talk about such a far future, but it really takes time [...]
The half-life of, for example, the cesium is 30 years.
So, at some part of the decommissioning we need to wait, the radiation will be reduced.
See also: Gundersen: I think they will get to point of throwing concrete on Fukushima reactors and coming back in 300 to 500 years (VIDEO)
Watch the Tepco interview here
Published: March 10th, 2013 at 2:10 pm ET
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Fukushima Daiichi will be leaking radiation into the environment for decades and decades.
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What about the other deadly radioactive elements?
What about accumulation?
They cannot say 'when' the radiation will be reduced because it has not stopped yet.
Overall, this global catastrophe is in it's early stages.
Now at 2 years!!!
400 tons of contaminated ground water a day.
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–> @6:28 "Look at my eyebrows, can't you tell I'm ready to kill you!"
(that was weird, someone could take that as a threat)
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Well said ChasAha,
I'm thinking, some isotopes will actually increase as the years go on – through interaction with other isotopes.
Also, I vaguely recall that the half-lives of some elements, like Cesium-137, are actually getting extended.
Then we have bioaccumulation and biomagnification.
Most of Japan was affected by this disaster. Probably ALL of Japan will be more and more affected as time goes on and the various transport vectors (or 'ways' that particles can 'get' you) kick in.
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Akira Kawano,
Didn't your mother ever teach you how to tell the truth?
Half Lives of Some Radioactive Isotopes (years)
Carbon-14 5,730
Plutonium-240 6,563
Thorium-229 7,340
Americium-243 7,370
Curium-245 8,500
Curium-250 9,000
Tin-126 10,000 none
Iodine-129 15,700
Niobium-94 20,300
Plutonium-239 24,110
Proactinium-231 32,760
Lead-202 52,500
Lanthanium-137 60,000
Thorium-230 75,380
Nickel-59 76,000
Thorium-230 77,000
Calcium-41 103,000
Neptunium-236 154,000
Uranium-233 159,200
Rhenium-186m 200,000
Technetium-99 211,000
Krypton-81 229,000
Uranium-234 245,500
Chlorine-36 301,000
Curium-248 340,000
Bismuth-208 368,000
Plutonium-242 373,300
Aluminum-26 717,000
Selenium-79 1,130,000
Iron-60 1,500,000
Beryllium-10 1,510,000
Zircon-93 1,530,000
Curium-247 1,560,000
Gadolinium-150 1,790,000
Neptunium-237 2,144,000
Cesium-135 2,300,000
Technetium-96 2,600,000
Dysprosium-154 3,000,000
Bismuth-310m 3,040,000
Mietnerium-53 3,740,000
Technetium-98 4,200,000
Palladium-107 6,500,000
Hafnium-182 9,000,000
Lead-205 15,300,000
Curium-247 15,600,000
Uranium-236 23,420,000
Plutonium-244 80,800,000
Uranium-236 234,200,000
Uranium-235 703,800,000
Potassium-40 1,280,000,000
Uranium-238 4,468,000,000
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Wow! You did your homework.
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OK, so I left out Strontium 89 and 90 … (among others).
I just wanted to show what blatant, unabashed and bald-faced lying (fibbing, prevaricating) looks like.
Not very healthy for the karma, so I've heard. TEPCO seems to have incorporated lying and fibbing into their working modus operandi.
I note it's not mentioned as being part of the Bushido Code (for Samurai Warriors), but would have been incorporated later due to Zen Buddhist influence. Perhaps because lying and fibbing are useful weapons in war, to deceive the enemy.
That would be us.
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I agree this is war, we need rules of engagement.
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This is without the decay chains. Many of these decay into other radioactive daughter products each with their own half-lives and daughter products. Some have decay chains of over 20 daughter product cycles
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At least, they now have a plan. They "wait".
By the way, you can wait a bit longer. The half-time of plutonium239, for example, is 24,000 years. No need to hasten things up! Take your time! Have a big cup of tea!
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They finally got something right, TIME the only solution to this , the only thing is we can not comprehend that amount of time in our tiny little brains.
We may reduce the amount of contamination but never fully decommission, sad is it not.
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TIME is pretty much worth its weight in crap as a solution. Time will be measured in deaths, and in destruction of the food chain, from the plankton in the sea up through us humans. And every step through the chain, the damage gets magnified, not reduced. There is NO REDUCTION AT HAND PERIOD. And they haven't a clue how to either decontaminate or contain, much less decommission. Even these liars. They don't know HOW to do it. We could throw a trillion dollars at it toady (instead of tossing more free money to the banksters, let's say) and they still would not know HOW. I understand how tempting DENIAL might look to you and to so many others, but that is what it is — DENIAL.
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There is not a chance on god's irradiated earth, that the ecological disaster tepco's reactors spewed forth, will ever be cleaned up.
Never.
There is no way to clean up or fix what has already been done.
Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it, Mr. Akira…
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Did you catch the part where Mr. Kawano said the they were at max limit and could not keep up with the storage tank demand of the contaminated cooling water and that they were goig to start using open evaporation pools? The isotopes will continue to contaminate via rainfall after evaporation. This is another brainfart from Tepco. They bring good things to death.
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First he said the words's "discharge it"…
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Right you are Jebus. They are going to dump more highly contaminated waste water into the pacific along with plans of open storage ponds. Both are crimes against humanity.
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They want to wait until radiation is reduced to start decommissioning the plant? This is twisted on so many levels, hard to even spit it out. Why don't they just say that they will wait until the POPULATION is reduced, and then see if any of their descendants even have a clue HOW to decommission the plant? What I don't understand is that millions will die, but there is not even JAIL time for TEPCO?
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This approaches,"He could not have possibly said that": He said there will be LESS radioactive danger in 30 years because that is cesium's half-life? That just means that THAT batch of cesium, released March 11, 2011, will be radioactive for 300 years (10 times half-life). The cesium released today will be radioactive 300 years from NOW. And that's just the tinest tip of the iceberg. There is all the cumulative cesium from 311 up through today and every single day into the future. And that is just ONE radionuclide in escalating and cumulative quantities. Then there is the list above that PU239 was kind enough to provide. And yes, plutonium-239 was already spread across the Northern Hemisphere and ingested as "hot particles," poised to cause a mass epidemic of lung cancer at the least. But if we just "wait a million years until that radiation is reduced," we should do just fine, yes? Why even think about decommissioning anything? Plus the obvious: They have NOT A CLUE how to "decommission" this monster.
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excellent We Not They Finally…
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Instead of attempting to decommission the plant, why not stop the bleeding by creating a large cavern beneath the entire reactor site, using tunnel boring machines. Once completed, they could trigger a collapse and create a giant sinkhole for the entire mess to fall into. They could then dump lead, earth, and concrete into the mess until it stops emitting airborne isotopes. The sooner they bury it the better. Until then it is an open oozing sore that will only spread infection until someone in power who cares, kicks Tepco out and brings in real experts with solutions and timetables.
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If depopulation is the motivation of the scumbags then they must be proud of themselves for making sure they started with the children since things like this keep showing up suggesting they're very successful!! http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=ED-20130310-38467-JPN
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That's actually somewhat worse. These children were born normal. Whomever of them grow up and have children of their own, the chances of deformities are high. And for the grandchildren, even worse. They found that out at Chernobyl. It's the grotesque cripping of an entire CULTURE.
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There will be no waiting on this for those no longer here,
nor for those that will not be born.
This is the severe situation provided by worldwide fascism.
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http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21729072.800-the-pall-of-fukushima-overshadows-our-energy-future.html?cmpid=RSS|NSNS|2012-GLOBAL|online-news
This article and the top two comments are more of the same type of propaganda I see all the time.
Like Kawano, these people should be held accountable for lying to the ignorant masses!
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Right, I see TEPCO, its not harmful, but you "need to wait" 30 years to reduce the harm by 50%.
makes me say hmmmmmm
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You can not put the genie back into the bottle for billions of years.
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A scary add-on: What if the TEPCO official said that they have to wait until the radioactivity is less because (as other ENE News articles have said), they cannot send workers in for more than 5-10 minutes at a time without them being fatally nuked? What if no one can even get CLOSE enough to the plant for decades for even minimal decontamination? The interviewer needed to have him say that outright. Then all of northern Japan is a great big, "Run for your lives!" They have had a responsibility to get people evacuated from Day One.
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Uh. Dut bu duh ugh.??!! Can anyone talk straight? How about only the physics that actually pertains directly to the Fukushima reactors? The decay chains of the radio-isotopes that would have been present at the time the cores were shut down, and not all the other isotopes that have been produced in accelerators and such. As time goes on the total amount of radio-isotopes and total radiation per unit volume goes Down. Eventually decaying to lead in most cases. Radio-isotopes RARELY react with each other outside of an operating reactor or accellerator.
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