Company now taking weekend off at giant sinkhole — Will collect oil Monday

Published: October 14th, 2012 at 5:28 pm ET
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Saturday October 13, 2012 update from Texas Brine: “Work will resume on Monday to recover the remaining hydrocarbon material from the sinkhole surface”

See also: Crude oil now flowing into area surrounding sinkhole

Published: October 14th, 2012 at 5:28 pm ET
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29 comments to Company now taking weekend off at giant sinkhole — Will collect oil Monday

  • Anthony Anthony

    Like the alternate theory goes, there is a goal to turn the state into one giant fuel operation. I wonder if its true?


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    • many moons

      They dug up land on the indian reservations in the US after uranium…I guess the good people of LA are in for the same.

      The residents can leave or stay and smell the fumes…but they won't stop "progress" not when profits are under foot!


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  • PavewayIII PavewayIII

    OK – convinced the whole dome is going to blow now.

    I couldn't figure out why so much flaring for that butane transfer pipe a few days ago. No word since then.

    Then I'm reading the DNR's revised Emergency Declaration. They're talking about 10 ft. of natural gas in the aquifier by the borehold (I'm assuming the Oxy 3A hole), and 5 ft. 'Northwest' of that. They previously said they found natural gas pockets at 40', 110' (=in the aquifer under clay and shale layers) and 'in' the dome caprock. If the gas is leaking up the side of the dome, then its also filling up the space BETWEEN the caprock and salt.

    1) That's a massive volume of natural gas, and its under pressure.

    2) The 'pockets' are 10' and 5' deep, but maybe hundreds of feet long and wide. That's an incredible amount of uncontrolled flammable gas.

    3) How much natural gas is under the dome? That has to be ten or a hundred times as much. Every single storage cavern in that salt dome has pipes into their wells THROUGH that space.

    http://dnr.louisiana.gov/assets/OC/BC_All_Updates/DOC.PDF

    4) Aside from the explosion or fire hazard, there has been a huge amount of land shifted around by this gas. What happens when they start venting ANY of those gas pockets? Can they even vent the gas between the caprock and dome without something cracking?


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  • Funny this relationship, well, not funny at all actually.

    Killing ourselves to live, willing to give it all up for the illusion of cheap power. Sad.

    http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2012/10/nuke-and-cancer-word-correlation.html


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  • moonshellblue moonshellblue

    Gee, you would think they would want to get this accomplished asap but perhaps they don't want to pay the worker's overtime? I don't understand why they would wait it's just seems incompetent? The list is long.


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    • richard richard

      not being disrespectful moon, but what is there to be accomplished?

      i'm not stirring, i do want to know what can actually be done. this becomes Earth versus man .. i think we might know who will win.


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      • moonshellblue moonshellblue

        richard, I'm just tying to be hopeful, human nature, survival but this is in awful mess and so many twisted connections. Really I have no words to describe my what I think and that's what I have accomplished. Mother Nature is a harsh mistress, what goes around comes around.


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        • richard richard

          thanks moon.

          apparently sinkholes have historically occurred throughout the world. it's generally a 'localised' issue. so i guess it's to say they haven't come and gone before.

          looking at the area on google earth shows a lot of 'puddles' in the terrain. it must be very close to the water table in a lot of areas of that state (hench there are dykes as i understand it).

          being close to the water table and the coast (swamp).. does leave an area vunerable.. (especially, hush, if global climate change is occuring).

          combined with the macondo well threat and it's all wide open to some daunting speculation.

          this could be a barometer of the changes on the horizon. any action to stop it would have been required years ago. or it'll fizzle for a time and fade of itself. it's certainly a curiousity.


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    • dosdos dosdos

      Texas Brine has probably shifted available funds into a safe location, corporation-wise, to limit the ultimate liability, and they can't afford to pay overtime now.


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  • Sickputer

    Monkey see, monkey do. Just like the Fukushima 5000 (and dwindling) Uncle Sam's boys get to watch the Sunday football games.

    Nothing to see here, just death and destruction during the 40-hour work week.

    Force majeure…sez Tepco, Texas Brine, Chevron, et all. Act of god, we didn't do it. And we won't overspend our stockholder's funds to save the environment. Seal it up and walk away. Repeat process elsewhere until nothing is left to despoil.


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    • CBuck CBuck

      I don't get it. With my job, if there is work to be done and there is a deadline…you WILL work the weekend if needed. You do what needs to be done.
      But hey, the future of the earth and its inhabitants isn't that important I guess.
      This just makes me fume. Fucking grow up and do what needs to be done already.
      Pardon my french.


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      • PavewayIII PavewayIII

        Can't they subcontract through the Yakuza for some homeless and mentally disabled? That was a real cost-saver for TEPCO.

        Seriously though, CBuck – what's to clean up? There's no reason the oil will stop flowing to the surface anytime soon. If they cleaned it up Saturday, it would be back on the surface by Monday. They have been 'cleaning' the floating crude for weeks and it looks worse than ever in the latest pictures.

        The reporter that flew over was talking about how bad the smell was. There's no way that's all coming from just the crude floating on the surface of the sinkhole. Natural gas liquids mixed in with the natural gas AND fresh crude oil stink like hell. There's got to be huge pockets by now both above and below the aquifer. Not to mention the few billion cubic feet between the caprock and the salt.

        Its like a giant poison gas bomb going off reeeeeal slow, with a side of crude thrown in.


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        • CBuck CBuck

          My response means, "take responsibility", and yes it can be done.


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          • PavewayIII PavewayIII

            There's always a possibility, I guess… but Texas Brine's lawyers have been working around the clock to make sure that happens only in the most limited sense imaginable.

            This is in Louisiana. 'Little people' like the 1,200 Bayou Corne ex-residents don't matter. They have no representatives in the state or federal government and never bribe anyone important.

            Now I notice Dow has a couple of dozen storage caverns in that salt dome. They are well represented in state and federal government. Kind of like a super-citizen. God forbid anything happen to *Dow's* assets there – Texas Brine would be wiped off the face of the earth.


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            • CBuck CBuck

              I get what you are saying, but taking responsibility…really taking it, and doing what you can, goes a long way.
              There might not be a way to fix all this and I'm thinking there isn't at this point. But don't hide and point fingers and lay blame. It's just disgusting.
              Own your shit and deal with it.


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              • PavewayIII PavewayIII

                "…Own your shit and deal with it…"

                Oh, CBuck… now you did it – that's going to set Sonny over the edge. The seismic heliocorders will be able to pick up his shreiking all the way from Houston.

                World: get ready for a nuclear Cranch-down next week!


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      • PavewayIII PavewayIII

        oops… it was a photographer who noted the smell:

        "I will say the odor was the heaviest and strongest I have ever experienced in all my time in Louisiana," said photographer Jeffrey Dubinsky after flying over the 4.2 acre Bayou Corne sinkhole disaster area."

        From the Examiner:
        http://www.examiner.com/article/independent-sinkhole-flyover-catches-crude-oil-stench-but-whose


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      • skizexq skizexq

        but but WEEKENDS were made for MICHELOB~!!


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  • many moons

    They are all probably sick as hell from the fumes and not able to work…so to cover that reality with some bs -they are taking the weekend off to clear their heads from the volatile fumes.


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  • WindorSolarPlease

    I think this is hanging on a thread. If this blows, will this effect any nuclear plants?

    This isn't going to get fixed anytime soon (that's if they can), and there is too many flammable things and the smell is getting stronger. Not saying it will blow, saying it could very well blow. The surrounding area or areas that could be effected should be warned, just incase.

    It's not cost efficient to pay over time when they can't fix it. Maybe they are regrouping talking of a new plan that could fix this (my hopeful thinking).


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  • michellemamarn

    @WindSolarPlease- You made me think oh s***! and run to google maps: Riverbend Nuclear Power Plant is about 69 miles away…I guess it depends how big the sinkhole blows. I had not even considered this problem.


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    • WindorSolarPlease

      Hi michellemamarn

      I don't like risks and prefer to be overly cautious. I'm hoping they are thinking of the what ifs and putting plans in place to shut down what is needed, and warn the public.

      Time to change things around, thinking of the environment, the public, and not the mighty $$$$$.


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  • michellemamarn

    Waterford NPP 130 miles away. Neither is far enough to dismiss easily.


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  • kalidances

    We can't forget to contemplate can happen when the toxic fumes reach either of the nuclear power plants. In California the Chevron refinery in Richmond had a fire in August. It reached 80 miles north to Sacramento in a couple of hours. The toxic fumes were making people dizzy. Nuke plant workers should not under any circumstances be exposed to chemicals that can make them faint.

    The Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory is 50 miles from the Chevron plant.
    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1739535,00.html

    Asthmatics, people with lowered immune systems from lupus, MS, pre-existing lung conditions,and people with COPD need to pay particular attention.


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