British Scientist: There’s no doubt Fukushima dwarfs Chernobyl

Published: May 19th, 2011 at 6:26 pm ET
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Christopher Busby: The Negative Health Effects of Low-Dose Radiation from Fukushima, Alex Jones Channel, May 18, 2011:

[:40 in] There’s no doubt that it dwarfs Chernobyl…

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZszDrDfL5A

Dr Chris Busby is scientific consultant to the Low Level Radiation Campaign and director of the independent environmental consultancy, Green Audit. He obtained First Class Honours BSc (Special) in Chemistry from the University of London. He worked in research for the Wellcome Foundation applying spectroscopic and analytical methods to chemical
pharmacology and molecular drug interactions. He discontinued doctoral research in spectroscopy at Queen Mary College, London, following a dispute over ethics and returned to Burroughs Wellcome. He later researched Raman spectro-electrochemistry at the University of Kent, gaining a PhD. – CERRIE website

Christopher Busby (born 1 September 1945) is a British scientist known for his controversial theories about the negative health effects of very low-dose ionising radiation. Busby is the director of Green Audit, an environmental consultancy agency,[1] and scientific advisor to the Low Level Radiation Campaign (LLRC) which he set up in 1995.[2] Busby is a visiting professor at the University of Ulster.[3] Busby was the National Speaker on Science and Technology for the Green Party of England and Wales. -Wikipedia

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148 comments to British Scientist: There’s no doubt Fukushima dwarfs Chernobyl

  • ZombiePlanet

    No kidding!

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    http://www.pickyourown.org/allaboutcanning.htm

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    Florida legislature refuses to regulate mercury in vaccines
    http://www.naturalnews.com/032434_mercury_vaccines.html


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  • ZombiePlanet

    Anyone know where I can acquire a correspondence course to become a “British Scientist?” I like the ones with the color in boxes!


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  • pAnIc

    This is not a credible expert. Anyone with a degree can come out with statements like these. Please stop posting these.


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    • Cassie

      Panic:
      Can you please indicate which comments are credible or not?
      Would help those of us trying to evaluate.
      Many thanks


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      • toots

        I studied at Univ. of London, etc. Most American students could not cut it at English university. These naysayers seem like trolls or very uninformed.


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      • pAnIc

        - He mentions “cancer” in the second sentence
        - “Gigabequerels per kilogram”
        - at 2:00 he is just ranting, “billions of these particles”
        - he mentions Hiroshima atom bomb
        - “you’re in danger in Texas”, but “it depends”

        Sorry, I cannot watch more of this, stopping after 3:30


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      • the golden kazoo (in grok mode)

        yes. please be more specific instead of just softsoaping the issues here with some mediocre criticisms and arbitrary, foolish complaints.


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    • toots

      How is he not credible? He has as much expertise and as much of a classical science foundation as many in nuclear, molecular, and environmental energy fields.
      To earn First Class Honors at University of London in Chemistry and a PhD in molecular chemistry is extremely impressive. I don’t think you understand how prestigious and difficult this level is in England. Moreover, his study is highly relevant.
      All those radioactive isotopes and heavy metals that we are discussing daily here are Chemistry Elements with properties listed right off the Periodic Table! Dr. Busby is very experienced and has specialized in the area, including serving as a Fellow of the Faculty of Medicine at University of Liverpool in the Department of Human Anatomy and Cell Biology-relevant, no?….
      Plus, just listen to him! He’s like a shining candle of intellect and integrity.
      So, YES, he’s qualified to make an assessment here. The question is, are you??


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      • Jerry.T.C

        Sold his soul to the gov established dis-info crew while collecting a fat check.

        A “qualified” component of the puppets on a string require, kissing butt and making sure they pull the party line unless, he desires all the precious esteem and life style granted to his loyal ass pulled from under his feet.

        “First Class Honors at University of London…”

        simply means you “MUST” become a perpetual “text book repeater” and DO NOT interject any truth that you may observe. Otherwise your ass is on the line, buddy.

        What a puppet.


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        • ZombiePlanet

          Up front and center.

          The guy checks out.
          States the truth and has the balls to stand up and tell it like it is. Do some homework and you may see a source of light, that was dimmed out by your preconceived ideas.

          Low level is not low after, it is lodged within your body. Do you enjoy walking around with a ticking time bomb in your tummy? Add a few more and you become a…
          well should I say it…
          a zombie of your own accord.


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        • toots

          What?? The whole point is that he is NOT the puppet. He’s been going against the grain to tell the truth and he’s qualified to do so.


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        • Ready

          You sound like the puppet.


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    • tony wilson

      pAnIc
      shut up..
      or give us a point for point critique why dr busby is less credible,than any clown stooge scientist working for the nuclear industry.
      please watch this and tell me who was correct 5 weeks ago today.busby or the nuke lover.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S2qgTrqR6A


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    • wondering

      Afu, is that you again?


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    • the golden kazoo (in grok mode)

      instant fail. you have only shown that you are incapable of rational and relevant discussion concerning the science of these serious and somber events.

      This is not a credible expert.

      and

      Sorry, I cannot watch more of this…

      are not reasonable statements and is not a reasonable conclusion to arrive at. Obviously your premise is flawed or insubstantial, therefore Dr. Busby is a credible expert. and to be taken seriously.


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  • b

    enenews is a helpful resource overall. But it would be more credible if the sources you quoted were more consistently credible and diverse.


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    • toots

      He’s very credible. What are your credentials to judge him?


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      • b

        I’m a professional risk analyst.


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        • toots

          Do you have a PhD in Chemistry, Nuclear Medicine, Cell Biology? Hello?


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        • Pu239

          Keep in mind that Josef Oehmen, who has been horribly (unfortunately?) wrong in his predictions, was also a risk analyst.

          The takedown:
          http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20266-how-josef-oehmens-advice-on-fukushima-went-viral.html?full=true
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          Josef Oehmen, Ph.D., MBA, currently works as a Research Scientist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

          Josef is also a member of the board of directors of ClimateInterchange, a company that develops and implements carbon emission reduction projects. We focus on projects in developing countries that combine climate protection and the UN Millennium Development Goals through the introduction of sustainable technologies, developed by our group.

          Before joining MIT, he was the Director for Supply Chain Management at the ETH Center for Enterprise Sciences (BWI) at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH Zurich).

          He wrote his PhD thesis at ETH Zurich on supply chain risk management with a focus on China. In his research, he investigated and optimized the integration and cooperation between Swiss companies and their Chinese suppliers.


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        • tony wilson

          b
          are the world famous professor b.
          how are you have you recovered from the mental breakdown.
          i here your friend Josef Oehmen, Ph.D., MBA.
          from the world famous mit has had a little relapse as well after stating no release will happen.
          you guys in risk management you are funny how about a study on the danger of hot stale air from your mouth.


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          • Why come here to insult anyone?

            It shows only your true intelligence.


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          • Edward Louis Bernays

            huh? You do come from left field with this personal attack. As you have not ‘read’ this community I doubt your a shill of professional standing. I know a grade school attack when I see one. Respond to me so we can sort out your disease or if you have something really to say simply rejoin the discussion while staying on point. Did Mr B show you to be a ass in school ? Really your life will improve when you at least try to get over it… what ever your demon ‘it’ may be. Seek the truth even it disrupts your ego support system.


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          • shockwave

            That’s uncalled for.

            I think someone shoot the wrong target.

            Mr./Ms. just states his/her opinion on enenews. The source of news is indeed important.


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          • the golden kazoo (in grok mode)

            the risk analysis queen b has nothing to offer here except for paperthin unscientific criticisms, grandstanding the issues and absurd, irrational, and caustic dialog. obviously many here have not figured out this simple fact yet.


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        • Poor Daddy

          A professional risk analyst?
          Thats part of the problem….worrying about rich people and corporation’s money.
          Guess I’ll trust Prof. Busby.


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  • bcbud

    except for that stinking beret he always wears, I’d say he is pretty damn credible. He has made plenty of statements since the beginning on RT news as well as the BBC that sounded outlandish at the time but have proven to be true. Or is it because he is making these statements on the Alex Jones Show?


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  • toots

    He obviously has an independent view and is not being paid off by the nuclear industry or hushed by govt… But, his opinion and his manner of presenting it are credible and consistent. I actually give him a lot of credit!!


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  • Darth

    Busby is credible in my opinion. I have been following his public statements since this disaster happened. If anything he underestimated the outcome.

    I see a lot of new names appearing who are critical of this man. I begin to wonder if this website is too effective in spreading the news of this disaster. It is shameful to have such character assassinations without any reason. Now is not a time to try to be funny. So perhaps sick humor at the expense of someone else’s good reputation should be avoided.


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  • pAnIc

    Experts of calibre won’t appear on “prisonplanet.tv” for a start. Like commenter “b” I’m a professional risk analyst and I know a reliable source when I see it (it’s not a “British scientist known for his controversial theories”). Stick to Arnie Gundersen from Fairewinds, I hope he will comment again soon. Nobody has enough info at this point.


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  • pAnIc

    … enough info to make a good judgement. (Sorry, was interrupted by an earthquake, I’m in Japan)


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    • toots

      If you had good judgment, you would be out of Japan, buddy! (IMHO)


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      • pAnIc

        I was gone in the second week, one day before the fallout came (good judgement if you ask me). I’m back since 2 May, but discovered that radiation here, over 200km away, is actually higher now than 20km away from the plant, but no official body has really grasped this yet. We have been “hot-spotted”, the stuff it in the ground now, but it is no reason to panic, just needs planning the next step.


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        • Cassie

          Panic, where are you in Japan?
          How close to Fukushima are you?

          It must be difficult to read material about the dangers in Japan
          given how close you are to the situation.

          You say that nest steps need to be planned and the official body has not grasped some of the details. Can you say more about all of this?

          Cassie


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      • toots

        pAnIc, I’m sorry if that sounds insensitive, but I’ve met too many individuals in the States who decided to take a vacation and go swimming in the Gulf (off W. Florida) during the record BP oil disaster last year… They relied on our govt. and the local tourist boards, which told them that there was positively NO RISK.

        Unfortunately, although they previously were very healthy, they now have been suffering from serious health problems ever since!!…They regret listening to those officials everyday.

        Please think again about those risks! And why you are at it, you must DEMAND more from your government!! please!!!!
        Take care of yourself!


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        • pAnIc

          Thank you, appreciate the followup. I am not saying it is not dangerous, but it is not doomsday/we’re all going to die time. It is not good and the lack of readiness of the local and prefectural government is alarming. Do not trust anything that’s aired by NHK, it’s not the full story. I have informed local child care facility about my measurements and steps are being taken. Nobody was prepared that the fallout would travel this far and come down with rain. They are thinking in terms of distance, that’s wrong as we now see.

          Have a look at this map and note the scatter of blue at the bottom, above the word Kamagaya. You will see that it matches the colors much further up north. That is our problem, it is a quite big region, but just falls short of Tokyo.

          http://www.nnistar.com/gmap/fukushima.html


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          • Cassie

            Panic:

            what is this map showing and what do the colors mean…
            it is japanese, maybe you can help me out with it….

            http://www.nnistar.com/gmap/fukushima.html

            Cassie


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          • toots

            wow, all we can get is NHK. I have relatives on the west coast who are getting bombarded by radiation. This disaster has a wide reach…

            Child care facility?!! I’m glad you notified the authorities.

            Can you explain why the Japanese are not calling on more international expertise? I have a friend from Moscow and she said they would not accept multiple offers from Russia?

            And do you know why are they concealing so much?

            Thanks for your input! I’m so sorry for what your country is going through.


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          • toots

            pAnIc,
            Are you there??? Are you ok?

            Do you have any insights on why the Japanese in charge would not take some advice from Russia??

            Do you have any impression of what they are thinking now??

            I don’t speak any Japanese.
            Please fill us in!!!!
            Thanks!

            p.s. If I were you, I would leave.


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        • Cassie

          It was a pretty funny comment Toots I admit.
          My bad for LOL.

          But I think Mr. Panic may be having a rough time given
          what he is doing and where he is. And maybe we need to take that into account. It has to be very difficult reading some of this material if you are sitting next to Fukushima.

          He did make some interesting comments about where he is and what he is doing. I hope he answers my questions.

          Cassie


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          • pAnIc

            The map shows measurements taken at those places in micro Sieverts per hour; there is a legend at the bottom. the red close to the plant is obvious, the red northwest outside of the circles is the iitate village that you hear about on the news a lot. Fukushima City is west of the plant, middle of the country.


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          • Cassie

            Thanks Panic
            How far are you from Fukushima?


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          • toots

            It’s AWESOME to hear from people in Japan!! What’s happening there is going down in history. I just hope they leave & speed up a solution. (I’ve seen enough here with the Gulf disaster!)
            I also think they absolutely must demand much more from their Govt. and TEPCO!! They need to call in experts ASAP from Russia, France, US. They need to do so much more! And I support them 100%.


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          • Cassie

            Yes Panic has an important perspective I think, about what he is doing, where he is….
            much more interesting than academic debates about British scientists! Which he probably does not want to hear considering what he is facing.
            Cassie


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      • Cassie

        Xdr, what is this?
        Another earthquake?


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        • pAnIc

          Use this for reliable and instant info:

          http://tenki.jp/earthquake/

          This was a M5.8 just now


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          • Cassie

            You are on Honshu then.


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          • xdrfox

            Thx. do you wish to leave Japan and have the means to, I recall you have a 2 yr old too !


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          • pAnIc

            At the moment I find the risk of what has already happened higher than what might happen at the plant, but who knows? The meltdown news is essentially two months old, so what’s next, that nobody can answer it seems. Unit 4 is leaning, not good either. There is a 80% chance of another strong quake in the next three months, so we’ll see.

            There is no point going from one news bit to the next, Tepco can’t do this, this may happen, this value is up etc. it’ll drive you crazy.

            However, I believe there is a mid to long-term risk once all the stuff that has already landed onto the country will expose the population to health issues. That nobody can tell. So Busby might be right, in a way, but it is more of a guess that nobody can prove right or wrong. We know that there is very little research in that area so it is hard to predict. In 30 years we will know better, but I don’t intend on my kids becoming a statistic in this.


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          • toots

            Chernobyl produced a lot of research… I was in Ohio during the Three Mile Island meltdown. I remember my parents’ panic over my safety & that was nothing by comparison…Good luck!

            *It would be great to hear what you think about Japan’s next moves and the possibility of diplomacy to hasten improvements there????


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          • pAnIc

            “‎Apart from research on the thyroid cancer outbreak, the international coverage is “uncoordinated … forming a patchwork … rather than a comprehensive, structured attempt to delineate the overall health consequences of the accident”. The truth is we [...] don’t know the true impact of the Chernobyl accident on health because the funds have not been available to thoroughly investigate it.”

            http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/apr/08/lack-knowledge-effects-chernobyl-accident?mobile-redirect=false


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          • pAnIc

            Just to be clear, I am not saying there no danger, quite the contrary. Just saying that people like Busby might have no basis of making these “millions of cancers” statements, but they have an agenda just like the pro nuclear folks.


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          • toots

            Thanks for writing back!
            But, how can you take that chance?
            Anyone can recognize that having an exponentially larger, longer nuclear crisis will yield a much greater impact.
            Also, it’s less likely that Dr. Busby is providing this commentary to promote his career as it is that he’s just confirming the data and theories that he already was working on for many years… He certainly did not order up this disaster for publicity–he just happens to specialize on the effects of radiation. And there’s no benefit to him by declaring the threat to the N. Hemisphere, where he lives as well.

            It’s a normal reaction to want to stay near your home. I just think you, like Japan, may be hurting your own interests.

            Please see:
            *It would be great to hear what you think about Japan’s next moves and the possibility of diplomacy to hasten improvements there???

            Thanks!!


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          • pAnIc

            > But, how can you take that chance?

            I don’t intend to… working on it.


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          • Cassie

            Panic
            I second some of the questions Panic.

            What is Japan’s next move?
            Do you see a plan in place?
            And I know there are no available statistics to exam
            as per your job, but do you think that there are any credible scientists at this point that can shed a light on events?

            Also I am curious, what is the mood in Japan right now.

            I am glad to hear you are working on your own plans.
            Thank you for sharing and stay safe.
            Prayers to you and your family.
            Cassie


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    • tony wilson

      panic..
      why don’t have a cup of plutonium laced miso or youtube dr busby and his russia today videos if anything his comments are milder than the brutal tepco reality.
      i think you have been in japan to long you people prefer silence and Conformity.
      you will be screaming soon enough,when the
      mr bean like government runs away to osaka or hainan island.


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        • Dbug

          I don’t know why so many want to be so quick to reach conclusions over things they just don’t have the facts to properly assess. The amount released will become known after decommissioning starts years down the road. Other than to add fear or panic, why treat this as some kind of a contest with Chernobyl?

          And it is strange how some act like the Russians should be planning things. Sure, things were learned from that accident, but it’s not like they did things amazingly well. They didn’t even go public with the news of an accident until it set of radiation alarms at a plant in Sweden. They sent in firemen without even telling them the fire involved a release of radiation. Some went in and never came out because of the radiation. Tepco has had about 30 people exposed to around 100 mSv, an amount below the emergency-level limit set. There’s an elevated long-term risk at that level but no radiation sickness or certainly of cancer.
          The Russians were helpful in providing the large transport aircraft needed to fly in the US made water/concrete pumper trucks, so it’s not like help was refused.

          It seems apparent that far from the accident, some are very seriously afflicted with the Dunning-Kruger effect.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect


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          • Cassie

            Dbug: Time will tell eventually who has been correct or not. I do not pretend to know the outcome.

            But nature abhors a vacuum they say and if our leaders and experts were doing the jobs we pay them to do, amateurs would not have to be stepping up to the plate.

            It is a symptom of the sickness in our society that we have leaders and scientists we do not trust. A populace who is not being told the truth, and what we are told doesn’t match the pictures we can see for ourselves.

            The reason some of us keep going back to the Russians, is because they actually did something. Whether it was their best effort or not, they seemed to be interested in fixing the problem. And they did more than use a garden hose and cry on TV.

            Cassie


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          • the golden kazoo (in grok mode)

            the magic word is cover-up, human error and the extreme damage that the radiation fallout has caused in europe and the toll in human misery. chernobyl was never handled properly, more of the same here.
            Chernobyl disaster
            it’s a valid comparison.


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  • LeafyBitz

    Things getting damn scary, the seawater measurements alone, near the reactors, are just within the water itself, not from the marine sediments, and critters.

    The metal ions bind with clay-plate particles, and those do not deposit in sands, near the shoreline, they fall on the littoral margin, and in estuaries, and near mangroves. It isn’t going to build up on a sandy exposed beach like near these reactors.

    Instead it’s going to accumulate in the still water areas which are also the fish and crustacean hatcheries and nurseries.

    Long-lived shit … in mud … that is constantly turned-over and remobilized by storms, and floods and currents, and critters and filter-feeders, and trawlers …

    What is happening on land is bad enough, but this is going to decimate litoral seas and fish stocks around Japan.


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    • Cassie

      Is your area marine biology Leaf?
      What will all of this do to the food supply, ocean globally, not just
      near Japan?
      I think the ocean may generate our oxygen supply to a large extent?
      Will that capacity be affected?
      Thank you
      Cassie


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      • mothra

        That’s correct Cassie – ocean phytoplankton produce roughly 1/2 of the world oxygen supply. Radionuclide exposure upon marine biology produces mutation and reproductive die off. The EPA is delegating ocean impact studies to NOAA and independent scientists are trying to answer those questions. One scientist who studies the Pacific gyre has estimated debris along the West Coast within the year and he’s concerned about larger cross migration of contaminated species within 200-600 days (blue fin tuna). I don’t hear a great deal about mollusks (filter feeders like mussels) that are known to concentrate contamination yet.


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        • Cassie

          Motha:
          So rad pollution in the ocean impacts the food chain and oxygen supply. In terms of the later, would the radionuclide impact oxygen production? To what extent and what would the time line be for such a reduction?
          And what is the sustainability for human and plant life in the event of a decrease in earth’s oxygen levels? Thank you for your reply.
          Cassie


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        • Cassie

          oops sorry Mothra, not Motha.


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  • Vivvi

    Hi everybody,

    been reading this site each day, keeping up to date with the ongoing level 7 disaster.

    Gee the trolls get really bent when somebody comes out with the truth, don’t they? Fancy some moron saying Dr Busby isn’t credible. Obviously not familiar with his work. Then again, maybe they are and it terrifies them.

    Remember how your parents always encouraged you to err on the side of caution? It makes perfect sense to me to prepare for the worst just in case it happens.

    I have always held the view that if you want to know whats really going on, follow the money. Frankly I care not one bit if idiots who shill for nuke $$$$ believe their own bullshine or not. If they get toasted, well, one less idiot, and that can only be a good thing.

    Surely they know they are wasting their time trying to pursuade informed ppl that black is actually white? Feel free to ignore these murderous lunatics.


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  • shizam

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Spring_Bloom_Colors_the_Pacific_Near_Hokkaido.jpg

    all that radioactive water dumping into the collision of two Pacific currents and headed westward?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KuroshioOyashio.jpg

    and what about the giinormous rotating continent of plastic trash, will that sop up some of it eventually?


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  • Pu239

    Atmosphere Above Japan Heated Rapidly Before M9 Earthquake
    Infrared emissions above the epicenter increased dramatically in the days before the devastating earthquake in Japan, say scientists.
    ——————————-
    I think we’ve covered this topic already on enenews.com, but found an interesting comment, below:

    http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26773/

    Brooks A. Agnew, PhD is a commercial scientist and engineer with more than 17 years of field research in Earth Tomography. Agnew said that HAARP, the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Project uses a billion Watts of energy, which he says would definitely be capable of creating earthquakes. I forgot to mention that he had accidentally caused a 4.0 earthquake back in 1987 using earth tomography ELF waves while looking for oil in Oregon.

    ————————
    Another comment from that page:

    Brooks Agnew has a YouTube interview where he described doing subsurface mineral exploration from satellites with a 30 watt radiotomography transmission. He had 100% accuracy and success and was able to scan the ore body and map the ore grade from satellite. After the Haiti earthquake I researched mineral exploration and mineral rights purchased in Dominican Republic and Haiti. Eurasian Minerals had purchased 20% of the mineral rights just before the earthquake and the World Bank met the day before the earthquake to consider the loan request by Eurasian Minerals to develop Haiti mining projects, but the committee did not vote to fund the projects. The day after the earthquake the World bank funding committee met and voted to fund the Eurasian Minerals portfolio. On the Eurasian Minerals Home Page are listed the five biggest mining projects now underway and coincidentally a HAARP facility is located near each project. Haiti: US-Arecibo, Puerto Rico; Norway: UK-Tromso, Norway; Northern Turkey: UK-Larnaca, Cyprus; Tien Shan Gold Belt, ?US-Dushanbe, Tajikstan; Sumatra: UK-Australia. So it is clear that the locations of the HAARP facilities are related to big global mining projects by the US and UK.


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    • nyc

      Dang, I just missed those comments because I read the article about … 30 hours ago. Those comments appear to be by Leuren Moret, another heavyweight.


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      • Jack

        There was a wave of reportage at places like Rense.com,
        when the big Szechuan Quake happened,
        that there was strange cloud coloration and activity just before the
        tremblor Hit. They were saying HAARP.
        Thank you ANNE! for the awesome (I never use that word!) posting
        of the relevant articles.


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  • Dr. Christopher Busby, BSc, PhD, C.Chem, MRSC

    To all of those making fun of my hat,
    Fuck off.


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    • pAnIc

      Sir, it’s a béret, not a hat. But you knew that, didn’t you Sir?


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      • tony wilson

        pAnIc
        May 20, 2011 at 12:09 am

        “‎Apart from research on the thyroid cancer outbreak, the international coverage is “uncoordinated … forming a patchwork

        that is the plan,that is what the nuclear industry does it covers up.

        IAEA’s figures for chernobyl state a total of 4000 fatalities since 1986.

        this report puts the figure at about a million.
        Chernobyl
        Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment
        Written by Alexey V. Yablokov (Center for Russian Environmental Policy, Moscow, Russia), Vassily B. Nesterenko, and Alexey V. Nesterenko (Institute of Radiation Safety, Minsk, Belarus.

        why should we believe anything from an industry that is so financially connected with government.
        you seem to think it is all a bit vague,what about the thousands of tons of plutonium.
        as a risk specialist what do you think happens when 1-3 cores leave containment,tepco state cold shut down in 9 months any ideas.


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  • anne

    ALERT!! HAARP Fukushima Radiation Wash 5.15.2011
    http://brokenflask.com/2011/05/15/alert-haarp-fukushima-radiation-wash-5-15-2011/

    Russia Attacks Japan Using Their Form Of HAARP (Fukushima) Because of Rare Earth Mineral
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KXc79GWZDw

    Japan is right to be angry at QI atom bomb joke; Joking about nuclear survivors reflects Britain’s tendency to revel in a false memory of a ‘good war’, ignoring the messy reality
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/feb/08/japan-qi-atom-bomb-joke

    Japanese Jets Scramble to Deal With Russian…
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xg10bq_japanese-jets-scramble-to-deal-with-russian-plane-incursion_news

    Russia to boost defences on Kuril islands: Medvedev
    http://www.energy-daily.com/reports/Russia_to_boost_defences_on_Kuril_islands_Medvedev_999.html


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  • anne

    “Incredibly, the falling tower in the Illuminati Card Game — shown to the left, published in 1995 — is the Japanese Waco Clock Tower at Ginza in Tokyo!

    “This reality means that Steven Jackson, the founder of Steve Jackson Games, knew that combined disasters were planned for Japan, and he knew it in 1995!….

    “’Others (foreign scientists) are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.’ (COHEN ADDRESS 4/28 AT CONFERENCE ON TERRORISM, Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy , Sam Nunn Policy Forum, April 28, 1997 University of Georgia, Athens, Georgia.)
    “America’s electromagnetic wave system is called “HAARP”, while the Russian electromagnetic wave system is called “Scalar”. Either system could easily have caused the massive Japanese combined disasters on March 11, 2011.“
    http://www.cuttingedge.org/newsletters/newsalert.htm


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  • Mark

    Re: Dr. Christopher Busby, BSc, PhD, C.Chem, MRSC

    Whats not to believe? How many TEPCO reps wear a Beret? Exactly. I’ll beleive the Beret!


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  • Rosie

    Hello! I’m from London and because I couldn’t understand why there was no coverage I managed to find this site. I’m amazed that the MSM are getting away with a complete news blackout. Why aren’t people demanding some sort of coverage? I don’t get it.


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  • Deborah

    AS Arnie Gundersun said the first week (for which he caught some flak) “Chernobyl on Steroids” Hmmmm. Hew was right all along wasn’t he? Stick with Arnie, he knows his stuff.


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  • Yes, Welcome Rosie! You are entering a place where NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE,…..was that Carl Sagan? Sorry, American show of the 60′s and 70′s.

    Like Cassie said, some of us here have not yet connected all the dots. Some have, or so they say and I believe. As xdrfox says basically, “More shall be revealed”. It seems that as we can accept the truth,…it unfolds to us. Pull up a chair and share with us what you’ve seen, heard, and think, Yes? :-)

    Jill


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  • Rosie

    Thank you everybody because if I dare to mention anything about it in day to day conversation over in this neck of the woods people look at me as if I’m totally insane. Maybe they just lack imagination. I don’t know.


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    • Cassie

      Same here.
      Reactions are anger, disbelief, and disgust when trying to
      talk about it with friends and family.
      A surprising lack of curiosity and survival instinct.


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    • Cassie

      Or total denial.
      Perhaps we cannot blame them.
      Ignorance is bliss.


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      • mothra

        Mortality topics are not comfortable news and this was an unwelcomed event. Psychologically, denial and anger are understandable defense mechanisms. Feelings of helplessness and cognitive dissonance are expected reactions. It takes time and not everyone is wired or incentivized to acknowledge the situation. It’s easier to resist the message. Change is scary for many.


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        • Cassie

          Mothra:
          My area of expertise is the social sciences, and I am of course looking at this from that perspective as well as trying to understand that hard science.

          If this all unfolds like it may, I can not fathom the psychological impact on the general population. The more I think about it, the more the news black out makes some sort of sense.

          Cassie


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  • Yes Cassie, like the one where EVERYTHING you’ve EVER believed or hoped about,…gee, almost EVERYTHING and EVERYBODY you EVER thought you knew or understood-being decimated in about a ten minute read? Yeah, that’s a BUMPY 10 minutes indeed! And, the hangover’s a BITCH!


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  • You know, I saw this coming in about 2002. I saw America, as well as most industrialized nations, as “out of control drug-fiends”, about both money and power. (add, sex, food, gambling, etc,….) Yes, I had seen it before, but not the outward attributes of a desperate addicted fiend! Having worked in hospital detox wards I know how much like a drowning person, the fiend in withdrawl is. Notice I did not say, ‘addict”, them I can handle,….ALL DAY LONG,…But the ‘fiends’, No, no human power can control a fiend.


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    • Cassie

      Yes those addicted to money and power have been in charge
      and ruined the planet. When they took our jobs, houses, pensions, health care and education, we should have known our lives were next.

      No amount of money or power was ever enough for them.
      And they would keep going until there was nothing left.


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  • mark V

    Of course we here are not the only ones to try to understand what is going on. There are people willing to uncover the lies of the elites. Call them whistleblowers or decent human beings. There are and will be new and new backdoors available.

    The president or prime can’t just go on BBC or CNN and announce: the world is at a potentially Extinction Event. This will cause unheard panic. This I can understand, such news should be announced in stages.

    But one thing puzzles me, are we really so rotten, that even as the worse and worse news come from Fukushima, there is no visible action on the side of those supposed to be world leaders. They appear to live so much on another plannet, or may be they literally are? Is Fukushima contained, in the process of containing, or totally abandonned? If 1 or 3 I can understand, while 3 is not tasty. But if 2, then the outcome is what we deserve. Few hundred TEPCO workers with limited resources of defacto bancrupt company trying to contain what could mean end of life on planet.

    It is surreal.


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  • Dr.Stranglelove

    The “official experts” gave us The Titanic- the unsinkable ship,and The Maginot line- the impenetrable fortress..


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  • FJN

    I seem to see a lot of people trying desperately to discredit people like Busby etc. I am wondering if these posters are not actually organized. This site has become a very important source of information. Their is a news black out. The IAEA has stopped posting data. The discussions on this site have in the past been the most civil I have seen but now we have attacks on people instead of refutation of ideas cropping up. I find this very disturbing. I would recommend that those of us that are here for critical thought and analysis not get drawn into these idiotic conversations. Just ignore these posts and they eventually will go away since they cannot get a response from you. And if you wish to question my credentials I have been working in research at one of the top ten universities for over 33 years. I was designing research equipment before most of you were born. That last comment is strictly for the people who are so ready to question other people qualifications while never proving theirs.

    Unexamined convenience is the road to extinction.

    FJN


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    • tony wilson

      i find it incredible that so few people im science especially retired types have not spoken out.
      i have seen sites calling arnold gundersen a bitter fool talking rubbish.
      well that bitter fool should run for us president because he is a saint and i believe him more than cia agent barry liar obama.
      busby and a few others got in early with an opinion and they have been proven correct.
      they are solid for one important fact both men said probable cracks in containment within days.
      all the old areva nuclear farts where activated to say,ohh it is just a little hydrogen venting explosion no worries.this is nothing compared to chernobyl.japan has the best technology in the world :) move along nothing to worry about.
      the guy panic above said no serious specialist would go on alex jones show,where else can busby get a message out.
      the bbc last interviewed him a month ago and he was much to negative for them.
      all that doom and gloom about half life plutonium mox stuff.. royal weddings lady ga ga concerts,this cesium 137 puts a real downer on summer fun.


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      • 1111

        You recall Mr. Gundersen early on revealed the so-called restricted Areva report – at that time it (the report) did not portray 3 or 4 reactors as experiencing total melt down (go back and review it if you are un-familiar at the fairewinds site)- in view of the revelations of late (very late) from tepco confirming at least three reactors melted down within 24 hours of cooling system loss on March 11 2011 – one must suppose that the areva report was a fiction and patently fraudulent. It seems Mr. Gundersen and many others relied upon and made projections from that areva report –

        Now either the report was valid or the new melt down revelations are are not true??. However – given that it is a no brainer that the fuel experiences melt down very quickly after cooling circulation loss – leaves me puzzled that Mr. Gundersen could be taken in by such a ruse ??? strange . . comments ?? am i missing something ??

        Moderator – please remove the ignorant and pointless comments from your the site here – the clutter is making navigation problematic – the foul language erodes credibility and if the mess continues I think I will bow outa here.


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        • Jack

          Moderator:
          Yeah Mann! Aint it easy enough to delete the clearly trolly stuff?
          THANK YOU also for the continued upkeep otherwise of this Site!
          1111…
          Maybe Mr.G. had one last bit of acceptance of credibility of Areva.
          Maybe he and family are already under threat.
          Can you imagine being a vulnerable employee right now for one
          of these companies? Trying to just get a paycheck and CYA?


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          • 1111

            Jack, I think he was snowed at the time. I’m pretty comfortable that he is ligit. I hope he comes out with the real deal on this aspect soon, I kinda feel bad for him.
            Blessings


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      • terraohio

        Busby rules. I found his explanation of internal vs. external radiation as very informative. All of the talking heads are comparing a dental x-ray to I-131 radiation in drinking water, for example, but in effect, it is like comparing apples to oranges.

        Did anyone watch the Prison Planet or Infowar videos with Dr. Steve Pieczenik?


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