Thousands in Japan reported to be suffering massive and recurring nosebleeds in recent days — Gundersen: Japan doctors tell us, “We know our patients have radiation illness” but forced to keep it secret (VIDEO)

Published: October 1st, 2013 at 11:29 am ET
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Title: Over 3,000 ppl mostly of age under 30 are suffering from recurring massive nosebleeding in Japan
Source: Takahiro Katsumi (Former Foreign Policy Aide to former Senator Tadashi Inuzuka, a member of the House of Councillors of the Japanese National Diet. Currently an activist and owner of an independent translations service Office BALÉS )
Date: Updated Oct. 1, 2013
h/t Anonymous tips

  1. FACT: Over 5,000 ppl were reported of tweeting “nosebleed”(hanaji) over the past two-day period from 9/22-9/23 http://togetter.com/li/567445
  2. FACT: Over 3,000 ppl were reported of tweeting “can’t stop my nosebleed” (hanaji ga tomaranai) during the week of 9/20-9/30 (as of 12am 10/01/2013 JST) http://togetter.com/li/568710
  3. FACT: Over 2,500 ppl were reported of tweeting “I’m nosebleeding” (hanaji ga deta) during the short days of 9/28-9/30 (as of 12 am 10/01/2013 JST) http://togetter.com/li/570016

[...] WHAT YOU CAN DO:

For Japanese Facebook and Twitter users, I’ve been asking for assistance to help spread the survey to as much of the affected people as possible using the list shown above. For users overseas, I would like to ask the following: Help me create a database out of this massive list; Help me find reliable statistics on nosebleeding in general vis-a-vis abnormal nosebleeding; and Help me devise a way to bring in the international civic community’s attention on the matter.

See the complete report here

Fairewinds Chief Engineer Arnie Gundersen, Oct. 1, 2013 (At 5:10 in): The problem right now is that Japanese researchers are afraid to tell the truth. We’ve got doctors calling us at Fairewinds saying, “We know our patients have radiation illness and the hospital isn’t allowing us to tell the patients that.” [...] So the last piece of this is transparency. And frankly if you leave it to the Japanese government we’re never going to get transparency. We’ve got get the people involved with an oversight panel made up of civilians who have nothing to gain, or nothing to lose from telling the truth.

Watch TRNN’s interview here

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152 comments to Thousands in Japan reported to be suffering massive and recurring nosebleeds in recent days — Gundersen: Japan doctors tell us, “We know our patients have radiation illness” but forced to keep it secret (VIDEO)

  • Time Is Short Time Is Short

    We are only at the beginning of an 8 billion year catastrophe. 2 years in is only a baby-step, and we're starting to pick up speed.

    Let's summarize:

    Full nuclear catastrophe.
    Complete silence by world governments.
    Massive global death and suffering begins.
    Complete silence by world governments.
    Millions – then billions – start to slowly die from radiation contamination.

    You can fill in the rest.


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    • harengus_acidophilus

      The eternal fight.

      Some people say, once upon a time,
      the earth was placed between heaven and hell.
      And … there are doors in both directions.
      There are two kinds of keys: love and greed.

      Take your choice!

      h.


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  • mairs mairs

    If they've only counted people tweeting this, imagine how many there really are.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    R A D I A T I O N

    People aren't gonna hang around with nosebleeds. That goes for United States and Canada as well.


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  • pure water

    Come on, doctors, find a way to tell these people! This is your true job! I do not know, it could be dangerous for you to tell openly what is going on, but you can tell them what to do, and what to avoid. Do it, please! I am sure the gratitude and love will give you wings.


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    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      That's the sad part. Their only future is hospice care. There is no cure for this.

      Would we tell a dying man to give up smoking? A dying woman to give up her wine with dinner?

      We will all be asked to make decisions that we never thought we'd ever have to make.


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      • We Not They Finally

        What are you talking about, culture-wide hospice care?? This is the whole population! They keep going to school, they keep working, they keep struggling against the deficits. And apparently, they keep lying to themselves and to others, as the health of the nation deteriorates. But you already know that.

        I'd just try to curb making comparisons to "lifestyle choices," like drinking or smoking. There is nothing voluntary about any of this!! Even if some make better decisions about food and the like, they are all exposed and it's getting worse.

        Evacuation should have long since happened by now. But that would send their economy into immediate free-fall. The only "decision" made here was to let the population gradually die off instead. It's monstrous.


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        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          recent studies show pleasure centers in the brains of psychopaths are activated when they view other peoples pain. Psychopaths rise to power like cream in milk.

          Cant stop a psycho with a memo


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          • We Not They Finally

            CS, that is PART of how this happened. Nuclear power was made all-profit risk-free for the perpetrators. The same for fracking in the U.S. All social and ecological responsibility was negated. It's a natural magnet for psychopaths.


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            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              compared to orangutans and gorillas, the human and chimpanzee primates are poorly wired


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              • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                we're in the process of 'correcting' this, CodeShutdown. We discovered (back in the eighties) that surface antigens can be used to 'trigger' recessive genes, thereby effecting the genetic makeup of successive generations of the exposed. We suspected that our biggest obstacle with the 'rewiring' future generations would be found within the current populace. We're now in the process of using insect 'vectors' as a work-around. Wish us luck!!!


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                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  AFTERSHOCK, please tell me where I can follow your studies! Im dying to know more. Rewriting future DNA code via red and blue nano fibers spread by insect vectors…Im all for it. (Morgellons, malady of Joni Mitchel and a bunch of us) But, sincerely, Im interested. Peyers patches, gut biome, epigenetic modifications via succussed homeopathic antigens, multi faceted interaction with mononuclear phagocyte system and natural stem cells, who could ask for anything more fascinating?


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                  • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                    we obviously have to keep this work on the 'down-low' CodeShutdown. What I can tell you, is I was the one who initiated the program. Spoke – way back – to a professor of biology and advised him that for reasons that I'll not go into here, he would be required to 'walk softly' on any disclosures. Keep in mind, the choice had to be made. We'll talk more…


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Aftershock, thanks for your kind considerations. So I would hear more via a ping here on ENEnews? Seems a little hit or miss…I dont want to miss out on anything!

                      Thanks


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                    • We Not They Finally

                      Wow. If there really is such research, I want to know too. What's interesting is that now the Cancer Treatment Centers of America (which is corporate run) says that "genomic research is the future of cancer treatment." Which doesn't say much on the surface, but there may be technologies kept from the public that could help. I don't know how anyone can coax genes back to a normal state if we cannot even know the state they are in. But honestly, it gets too crazy thinking that the whole world may die and NOTHING can be done. It's just the whole ecology at stake, not just the human genome. But if you know of productive research, it would be great to hear about it.


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                    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                      a bit dated CodeShutdown, but sufficient to give an idea of what I'm hinting too…

                      Gene therapy may treat depression

                      http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/yourlife/health/medical/depression/2010-10-21-depression21_ST_N.htm


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                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Aftershock, very interesting stuff with that there gene therapy on the brains of those depressed, but I highly doubt you will be successful unless the goal is to create a race of Stepford people.

                      There are many reasons for human depression and usually when the mind understands the reality of the unnatural Zeitgeist Matrix that surrounds them they become depressed.

                      The culture/society/media sends way to many mixed messages along with fostering of poor diets for any brain to maintain consistent healthy parameters.

                      If we keep trashing our environment with radiation contamination etc. it will continue to get much worse for human/animal brain health/waves.

                      Good luck though but I would try to cure cancer first!


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                    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                      actually obewanspeaks, I'm only posting a link to an article that speaks to the possibility of this technology. My personal take on depression is that it's natural to the human psyche and as you've touched upon, an indicator of other (internal/external) forces that may need addressing. Of course, we live in a society that attempts to capitalize on this natural condition by-way-of stigmatizing same. But I'll not go further into this particular issue, as it's tangential to the my original response to CodeShutdown. My intent here was to alert him that work is being undertaken to (surreptitiously) 'correct' for the 'faulty wiring' within the human brain. This is a generational project. We now recognize that over a period of thousands of years, the 'battlefield gene' has permeating virtually most-all existing human in our time. Passive reflectivity is more an anomaly in the average person, than anything else. This is why you'll notice, even the most well intentioned will opt for violent solutions before considering others. This issue of compulsive violence must also be measured against social conditioning, as well as evolutionary behavior. But by-and-large, humans are (and have) degraded into a violent species. Put another way: our success in surviving the battlefield has become the undoing of each generation that succeeds the victorious. Humans are breeding themselves into extinction…


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      not only a killer instinct, but quite primitive conceptual capacity. It appears mans brain is shrinking, and there is a limit to that vector. As Homer Simpson illustrates, we may not have far to go.

                      Devolution will be accelerated by nuclear. Killer instincts will be less moderated by neocortical checks. Perhaps the 30x rise in dog bites after nuclear accidents reflects this. The left brain function is more affected by fallout. Left brain is considered analytical, sequential, logical, objective and rational.

                      A true renaissance man may need some of his neanderthal brain reawakened.


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                    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                      true dat CodeShutdown. You have an admiral ability to integrate issues, at all levels. We'll be putting that brain 'on ice'…


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                    • Homolumina Homolumina

                      Aftershock, are there any studies in how near death experiences rewire the brain – especially that part of the brain which decides which information is processed and how ? I have been asking myself for 20 years why men are so out of touch, aggressive, goal oriented, competitive, exploitative, disconnected – which all led to the state of affairs we are in now – and I found out why – the answers are all in the body – and the body shows that men need to be initiated into manhood otherwise they stay disconnected. The knowledge about male initiation has been methodically erased by the catholic church through brainwash and the inquisition.


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                • Wreedles Wreedles

                  I knew there was a reason I liked you so much.

                  Rock On, Brother!


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          • mairs mairs

            Yes, psychopaths are the true vampires, feeding off of the demise of other people.


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          • Jebus

            I think the proper term is, Psychopaths rise to power like mold on a crock of pickles…


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  • lickerface lickerface

    I don't think doctors admitting truth to patients makes any difference at this point. If people that are collectively getting nosebleeds aren't bettering their lifestyle (leaving the area), they are doomed to die. If I lived there and saw what was happening (and got a nosebleed that wouldn't stop), why would I go to a doctor? I'd know what it was from, and there's not too much a doctor could do to help me. I would, at some point, realize that the truth would come from within me as I acknowledge that I was in the process of dying from radionuclide exposure. There's something very wrong with the world when we purposely suppress symptoms of death and turn the TV volume up louder. It makes me think of the cute Fukashima Peach girls giving out toxic samples. It's been a constant two and a half year commercial break for some people… When we all collectively return to the regular scheduled program known as REALITY, the impact will be so heavy.


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    • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

      "…that I was in the process of dying from radionuclide exposure". Lickerface
      But now, the deaths from Fukushima will commence in ernest.
      And the truth about nuclear energy, about Fukushima, will become undeniable.


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    • KDM KDM

      These people need to stop thinking their doctors and government have their best interest in mind. Start making moves! If you know where you live is killing you get the hell out of there. Stop thinking so much and start making moves.


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    • NoNukes NoNukes

      Blaming the victim only helps the nuclear industry.


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      • KDM KDM

        I'm not blaming the victims, I'm saying use common sense.


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        • NoNukes NoNukes

          It is the nuclear industry's responsibility not to poison people, they should be evacuating everyone, children, the poor, the middle class, everyone, instead of paying off politicians, journalists, scientists, doctors, to ensure that the number of victims only grows.


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          • KDM KDM

            I totally agree with you but it's proven they are not going to. If a (especially three) nuclear plant near me explodes I'm not waiting to see graphs, charts, geiger counter readings, or governments orders. I'm packing my family and getting as far away as possible. And yes I know you can't totally escape it but the least amount of exposure the better. I truly feel for all the people suffering from the fall out, it breaks my heart. Maybe I'm trying to spell it out for the ones that can't understand the sophisticated, PC talk or number crunching. I'm not stereotyping anyone it's just a fact that many won't understand the discussions that reveal the true severity of it all.


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            • NoNukes NoNukes

              If you are trying to help people in Japan, I would suggest addressing the realities of poverty, age, etc. that prevent easy answers. Empathy goes a long way.

              If you are trying to help the nuclear industry by ridiculing and dehumanizing its victims, I have no suggestions.


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              • KDM KDM

                Sorry next time I'll seek your approval before I post. So you can judge my opinion accordingly. As for the pro nuclear comment, I take that as a huge insult. I've lost family very dear and close to me due to this industry. But I'm not trying to convince you, your opinion of me is already made. Continue with your discussion, I'll stay out of your loop.


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                • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                  KDM..you are correct and they should get the hell out of there!

                  But the problem is many are dirt poor with no resources and no help from the Nuclear Industry or their government and they can't get out of there.

                  There are people all over the world that are stuck due to economics and the real problem is this Nuclear Industry spreads/has spread this misery all over the world and they do not care whom they harm and they know they have all these poor people now trapped like rats!

                  Making human guinea pigs should not be the end/net result of any industry practice..


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                  • KDM KDM

                    I do realize and agree with you on your points. I didn't visualize the people posting on Twitter to be dirt poor, without resources. There are poverty stricken people and children whose parents are to blind to realize. I get frustrated as we all do at times. You just want to shout out so that maybe some of them will hear you. It's like a bad dream, no matter how fast you run you can't out run it. You stumble, you fall, your just too slow, but in the end it catches you. The only difference is with a dream you wake up.


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    • We Not They Finally

      lickerface, you are not Japanese, you don't live there, and I'm disturbed that your response is not COMPASSION, but rather stuff like, oh, if I were there I would know enough to just move.

      I hope that you are not re-born as a Japanese child. especially to an average family struggling to earn a living, and with ongoing news black-outs.

      You would be talking SO DIFFERENTLY.

      But that's America. "Why don't people just CHOOSE something else"? I mean, can't they just CHOOSE?? Isn't life all about chocolate, vanilla or strawberry?


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Yes, you would likely know, esp. if some of your family faced pogroms or were forced to live in certain areas due to nationality, heritage, or religion.

        I'm acknowledging what you said about yourself in past post(s).

        My family would likely be living in the Southern Hemisphere, were it not for financial reasons, and the need to stay put for professional reasons.


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  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    We are at the very beginning of the biological portion of the story of the Fukushima disaster.
    Kids with thyroid cancers.
    Heart attacks and sudden deaths.
    Misscarriges and birth defects.
    Radiation illness.
    The Japanese Government has been pretending that what has happened to the Japanese people hasn't happened.
    But the exposure was incredibly widespread, and very deadly.
    Evacuations that could have spared millions, didn't occur.
    At least Russia had the humanity to evacuate the people.
    But TEP.gov wanted to save the nuclear industry, and so sacrificed the people in harm's way.
    Now: The consequences.
    The full consequences of nuclear energy have been unleashed on the vulnerable human genome.
    The suffering in the coming years is going to be horrific.
    (The only good that will come from all the death and misery to follow will be an international decision to permantly shutter all nuclear reactors around the world. This is certainly coming, just wait and see.)

    But the cost of the ultimate victory over the nuclear industry, in misery, will be heartbreaking.


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    • nedlifromvermont

      well put, pun! Too right.


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    • Cisco Cisco

      Canada, Mexico and USA West Coasters you're next. It has already started with still births, heart attacks, thyroid cysts/tumors,
      et al.

      The West Coast food chain is already contaminated.


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      • NoNukes NoNukes

        Even though President Obama did a good job of implying that only the "West Coast" would be affected, there is no fairy up in the jet stream protecting the rest of the U.S., and radiation especially comes down in the rain, snow, etc.

        In fact, CDC death rate data reveals that many of the cities with the highest increases in mortality since 3/11 are not on the the West Coast, but are cities like Syracuse, NY, Atlanta, Georgia, Little Rock, Arkansas, Charlotte, NC:

        http://optimalprediction.com/wp/excess-mortality-for-selected-us-cities-in-2012/


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        • Cisco Cisco

          NoNukes…thanks for that.

          Aso, i.e. 48% spike in infant deaths in Philadelphia and a 35% spike in Northwest…a report by (Janette D. Sherman, M. D.) and epidemiologist (Joseph Mangano). They also said that many pregnant women's children will be affected, mothers unknowing.

          Maybe in the next 2 to 3 generations (if we survive at all), the new norm will look like CodeShutdown's avatar?


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          • NoNukes NoNukes

            Thanks, Cisco. There must be mountains of data that are hidden now. I wish we had more information.

            Some of the data from the nuclear testing era suggests that it might be even better to be at the equator than in the Southern Hemisphere, for people who are thinking of moving from Japan or the U.S.


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            • NoNukes NoNukes

              Here is one graph of Sr-90 fallout deposition that shows the Southern Hemisphere getting a fraction of that in the Northern Hemisphere, and then there is even less fallout around the equator.

              It is from 1958, it is criminal that we don't have studies from 2013, but the equator may still get less fallout today.

              http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/11/09/catastrophic-effects-of-radiation-contamination/fig-4b-bombtstdeposition/


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            • Cisco Cisco

              NoNukes…
              There are "mountains of data" out there. We don't need more studies and data to predict what will happen to Japan and the Japanese people. Chernobyl is the road map; and, I'm sorry to say a horrific one. Fukushima will eclipse Chernobyl a thousand times before this ELE is in full swing.

              "Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment" http://www.nyas.org/publications/annals/Detail.aspx?cid=f3f3bd16-51ba-4d7b-a086-753f44b3bfc1

              Comprehensive, good data, accurate reporting and analysis…100 times more info/data than the WHO, IAEC, UNSCEAR, and all of the other shill NGO's and industry studies combined…from 1987 to 2004.

              Here's one one several mindset altering photo essays about the children of the Ukraine. This is what's to come for Japan and the Japanese people…only it will be 1000 times worse.

              *Gene pool corruption…See this Chernobyl preview of our future, I dare you. http://inmotion.magnumphotos.com/essay/chernobyl


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            • HoTaters HoTaters

              OK, NoNukes, but what about the 450 or 500 tons of D.U lobbed into the friendly skies during the attacks on Kosovo, Gulf Wars 1 and 2?

              Much of that made its way into Europe and even as far away as India, from what I've read.

              In my mind, that puts the 0 degrees to 20 degrees South Latitude areas off the table, too.

              D.U. was also tested on a proving ground in Puerto Rico, too. Then the testing was moved to Australia.

              Is nothing sacred?

              GRRRRRR.


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              • NoNukes NoNukes

                You are right, HoTaters, a lot has happened since '58. They couldn't have done a better job to blanketing the globe in radiation if they tried.

                I go round and round thinking about this, and often end up in Paraguay, down the street from properties bought by George Bush and Reverend Moon. Those guys sure were prescient, weren't they?


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        • We Not They Finally

          NoNukes, when did Obama imply that (even) the West Coast would be affected AT ALL? I must have missed that.


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          • NoNukes NoNukes

            We Not They Finally,

            I credit Obama with kicking off this popular meme, that West Coast is the only area of the U.S. that is under threat from Fukushima radiation, in his initial very few words on the subject.

            I recommend watching the video, so you can see how slowly he outlines the areas of the West Coast, and then needlessly repeats, slowly, the same breakdown. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-japan-nuclear-crisis-harmful-radiation-us/story?id=13158789

            Although he is supposedly saying that these areas, "the west coast, Hawaii, Alaska, or the U.S. territories in the Pacific" are not going have harmful levels of radiation, he is simultaneously implying that those are really the only areas of the U.S. that we need to be concerned about.

            It is like the linguist George Lakoff's title, "Don't Think of an Elephant!" Even though the statement suggests the opposite, the image of an elephant comes to mind for almost everyone. The idea of the West Coast sticks.

            I grew up on the East Coast, and even kids used to joke about how the stupid Californians were going to fall into the ocean. I believe that this meme focus-grouped well, and has falsely reassured too many Americans who have been eating contaminated food, drinking contaminated milk and playing outside in the contaminated rain.


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            • We Not They Finally

              Why didn't he just say o.k., I can't TALK about any of this openly, but for those of you familiar with backwards-code, I'm at least mentioning Alaska, Hawaii and the West Coast? He didn't even caution pregnant women to stay out of the rain! There were huge rain-outs those first several weeks.

              I can't credit him with doing anything more than not even barely covering his own ___ on this, while he hightailed his own family to South America for the initial plume. And we voted for him. Like lack of any OTHER choice. But his behavior has been SHAMEFUL. Like what was he doing appointing Gina McCarthy, queen of the Office of Radiation Monitoring to head the EPA? Since then the EPA suddenly says that thousands of times as much radiation is "safe."

              Understand you're trying to look for the silver lining! We want that too. But we find Obama negligently NON-protective of the American people.


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              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                I cant TALK about it, but I support nuclear, the new world order, wall-street and banker bailouts, military conquest of innocent people, and a full on surveillance/police state. I may not be able to SAY there is impending and unstoppable decimation of the public (wink wink), but I can assure you, we are doing everything for your safety. (wink, nod, scratch the quickly elongating nose, roll eyes, do somersaults on the lawn, bark like a dog, and reassure us again)

                Biden, along with every president since Bush#1 used the new world order theme, long since warned about before even Kennedy.

                Here is truth people dont want to hear; Obama is not the good guy, hampered by the other party

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fHqntrPeSY


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              • NoNukes NoNukes

                We Not They Finally,

                You said, "Understand you're trying to look for the silver lining!"

                No, I don't think it is a silver lining, Obama "falsely reassured" the rest of the country that they didn't need to worry about radiation, that it only concerned the West Coast.

                I am crediting him with starting this meme, this lie, that Fukushima radiation only gets to the West Coast.

                It is something the rest of the country wants to believe, a lie that people are filled with "hope," if you will, that is true, and is therefore really dangerous.

                It is repeated here multiple times a day.

                The reality is that Grand Rapids, MI, Boise, ID, Allentown, PA, Fort Wayne, IN, etc. have seen increased mortality since 3/11, and the entire country needs to be aware that there are harmful levels of fallout from Fukushima, and take precautions:

                1. Keep out of the rain
                2. Avoid cows' milk
                3. Purchase meat, fruit, and as many food products as possible from the Southern Hemisphere/Equatorial regions.
                4. Get a good HEPA air filter.
                5. Get a good water filter, probably reverse osmosis.
                6. Don't eat anything from the Pacific Ocean.
                7. Consider adding lots of radio-protective vitamins, minerals and herbs like vitamin C, iodine, zinc, rosemary, etc. See thread on Enenews: http://enenews.com/forum-best-practices-combating-effects-radiation

                Just a start. Also, think about moving to the southern hemisphere or equator.


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                • We Not They Finally

                  Points very well-taken, NoNukes. Of course, the whole western part of the U.S. would have no assurance of safety anyway, since California is a "breadbasket." And St. Louis' radiation readings seem to be often off the charts! Even the milk all the way in Vermont had cesium in it just weeks after the catastrophe.

                  Also second the motion re MINERAL supplements. A lot of radionuclides mimic specific minerals — like strontium mimics calcium, cesium mimics potassium, uranium mimics magnesium and plutonium mimics iron. (I'm sure there's a lot more too.) And if you don't have enough NATURAL iodine in your body, radioactive iodine can move right in. Part of the tragedy of what might have been some PREVENTABLE thyroid cancer in Japan.

                  Unfortunately, some of the best mineral supplements (like spirulina) used to be from the sea and that's suspect now. But people should do what they can at the vitamin store.

                  I think it's GREAT to share with people how to protect themselves in their own homes. Would love to see more people do it.


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              • HoTaters HoTaters

                http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/negligence

                Negligence

                Conduct that falls below the standards of behavior established by law for the protection of others against unreasonable risk of harm. A person has acted negligently if he or she has departed from the conduct expected of a reasonably prudent person acting under similar circumstances.


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      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        It could be shown that the PNW, along the Canadian border and the entire mid-West, through the East and South is all more contaminated than the West Coast. Certainly everywere at higher elevation, closer to the jetstream.

        I think it's safe to say North America is finished.

        You mention the West Coast food chain. Yes, the seafood is contaminated, but it gets shipped east, too. California is America's vegetable and fruit garden, with the major percentage shipped out of state, across the US and into Canada. The mid-West is thoroughly contaminated, and the heart of the GMO 'experiment', while being shipped all over the world.

        Eat, drink and breath at our own risk.


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Have had thyroid and kidney cysts for over a year. Sometimes am nauseous when the jet stream is overhead. Unexplained rashes, weight loss. Yes, likely suffering Fuky effects on an already suppressed immune system.

        Many of us have expressed we don't feel well when the jet stream is overhead. Am personally paying more attention to this, now.

        The problem is, much of the damage to our bodies was done in the first three to six months after 3/11, and there is no way to un-do it.

        The ongoing releases of radioactive plumes are no doubt problematic.


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    • harengus_acidophilus

      Yes, hope still remains in Pandoras box.

      "The only good that will come from all the death and misery to follow will be an international decision to permantly shutter all nuclear reactors around the world."

      I hope this too, but – I'm not sure.
      If you take a look to history, "they" have no problems to kill "us" just for their wellfare or sometimes "for fun". These brains are wired to power and $$$ they don't understand "responsibility".
      In fact, modern societies need energy like a drug addict his stuff.
      Same problem, same solution?

      h.


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    • mairs mairs

      At least Japan could have distributed the donated radiation detectors.


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      • We Not They Finally

        Yeah, that is definitely major criminal malfeasance. But they obviously have not WANTED people to know. But that just gets more and more tragic as we go on. Another ENE News article said that so many children have been born in Japan with six fingers instead of five, that the waiting list for corrective surgery is one year. So it's hardly like no one gets to KNOW.


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  • nedlifromvermont

    radiation from man-made sources … truly the "gift that keeps on giving" … and GE can't admit to its mistakes or they would face lawsuits … so they are financially and structurally forced to lie and create ambiguity … where none really exists …

    peace …


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    • Unfortunately, they are free of liability thanks to the Price–Anderson Nuclear Industries Indemnity Act of 1957.

      People should know this.

      "First passed in 1957 and since renewed several times, which governs liability-related issues for all non-military nuclear facilities constructed in the United States before 2026. The main purpose of the Act is to partially indemnify the nuclear industry against liability claims arising from nuclear incidents…"

      "The Act establishes a no fault insurance-type system…"

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price%E2%80%93Anderson_Nuclear_Industries_Indemnity_Act


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      • We Not They Finally

        I'm sure that that's true, but it's only ONE culprit. And by now, people have had over half a century to consider why no one but the nuke industry is guaranteed government protection because no insurer in their right mind would give them coverage.

        So if anyone wants to blame Mr. Price or Mr. Anderson, they are probably long since dead. They were probably bad people, but there are also a lot of bad people who have taken their place.

        What about the 1959 agreement between the World Health Organization and the International Atomic Energy Agency? WHO agreed to never say anything about radiation without getting their script from the IAEA, which is there to PROMOTE nuclear energy. And that agreement stands to this day. Chris Busby was just talking about it recently.

        And what about all the alternative energy patents that have been quashed "for national security purposes" across the years? (See Steven Greer.)

        We can keep pointing out villains, and they are there for sure. But nothing shy of a mass agonized ROAR will even be heard above the corruption. It's massive systemic corruption and it's been made daunting to oppose.

        The public itself needs to be WAY more educated and WAY more active. It's just that by now, the odds for that look really bad.


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        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          you may hear a roar, but it wont change the psyco-type of the criminals in charge. Indeed, millions have been protesting in the streets over the last 15 years. You didnt see it on TV of course. I printed the photos of throngs in the streets, but people I showed them to shrugged it off.

          The idea that public sentiment will change criminal behavior is the same as asking a hurricane to change course.

          If a perpetrator would have his finger or tongue cut off every time a radiation victim…be they human or dolphin…had their limb or life destroyed, then, and only then, will the corrupt change their course. Until then, no matter how many nose bleeds or cancer corpses, there will be lying, intimidation and criminality to avoid culpability.


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      • jec jec

        BUT, as we found out with the BP Oil Spill, citizens have to PROVE they are ill from radiation. The denial system is alive and well for this 'insurance' act. If the nuclear companies had to be responsible for their actions, it would be another story.

        In the case of BP, citizens are still in court–years of litigation. And the highest paid of the claims cost was to the US government agencies who 'supported' the public during the disaster. Regular citizens had to PROVE damage, and illnesses are still ignored. "Smile be happy"..and we live only miles away from a nuclear plant…

        Oh, and homeowners insurance does NOT cover any sort of damages from a nuclear whoops..that's the 12 Billion in the slush fund held by the US government. Wonder if the funds are in escrow or already 'borrowed' against…..Just saying. Would love to hear they are in safe escrow…but doubt it.


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        • MichaelV MichaelV

          Let's assume the 12 billion dollars remains in escrow.

          If there were nuclear catastrophe in a city the size of St Louis Missouri metropolitan area(pop.2.7 million), and 1.3 million people who were adversely affected by radionucleotide contamination had claims that were approved, thi


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          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            MichaelV…Its all a scam and has always been a scam perpetrated directly onto the American people!

            Sorry, but unless we change the Matrix Laws now it will remain the same, since it is we the people that allow it! :(


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        • MichaelV MichaelV

          Let's assume the 12 billion dollars remains in escrow.

          If there were nuclear catastrophe in a city the size of St Louis Missouri metropolitan area(pop.2.7 million), and 1.3 million people who were adversely affected by radionucleotide contamination had claims that were approved, this is how it works:

          After 5 years of litigation claims will be paid in the year 2020;

          Average claim amount = $10,000 (12,000,000,000/1.2,000,000
          Gasoline will cost +$7/gal; bread will sell for that same $7/loaf.

          Rents will be high, but evacuees will be issued FEMA trailers in which. to dwell while they await claims processing.

          By the time they receive their compensation check years will have gone by, and if they're still alive, they will have accrued so much debt that they'll be back to square one.

          Repeal Price-Anderson


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      • Jebus

        I'm pretty sure in the case of Fukushima, the Price Anderson act is moot.

        But, in the case of Plumegate, whereby our elected officials sought to cover up the magnitude of the releases, who knowingly and willingly allowed their constituants to be in harms way, there were US laws broken, just like with BP, and the only thing that needs to be proven, is the harm…


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  • Why does information like this have to come via twitter?

    Are people's voices being suppressed?

    The Fallout Era may also be known at the time of 'the suffering'.


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  • WWJD WWJD

    When telling the truth, the truth teller always has something to lose. Remember that saying, "Don't kill the messenger"

    It's only the fear of losing something that is allowing this lie to continue to live on. Be a true human and stand up doctors, tell your patients the truth or you not really a doctor!


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    • We Not They Finally

      WWJD, that's probably why they are starting to go to Arnie Gundersen to publicize this. They may have no living and no way to help ANYONE medically, much less to educate people, if they stand up alone within an institution. And maybe some of them are TRYING to organize, and in the midst of horrendous and escalating conditions.

      Any doctor who does step forward should get kudos and support. That's probably easier said than done for them. But any doctor there who actually stands up and reaches out for outside help should be supported to the fullest. So we should all follow whatever Gundersen is doing with this. Because it seems to be the first glimmer of anything from the medical community there.

      Meanwhile, WWJD, surely you don't mean to blame the doctors, who are likely at wit's end. Many of them may be fearful of "losing" the chance to help ANYONE if they speak out, not just losing their own livings. And they have families and homes and lives too.

      What would be helpful is if INTERNATIONAL medical teams try to force their way IN. Not the institutional ones, like WHO, but maybe the activist ones, like Doctors Without Borders.

      But anyone working there will immediately also be at risk, very possibly long-range. That makes it not like ordinary relief work at all. It's is a huge conundrum.


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  • jk641

    "Massive and recurring nosebleeds"?
    That is not good.
    Not a good sign at all.
    I can't remember the last time I got a nosebleed.


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  • jk641

    Could this have something to do with the recent earthquake and the typhoon that brought heavy rain to Fukushima last week (or the week before)?
    Tepco dumped a lot of contaminated water during the storm, didn't they?


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  • weeman

    Why are doctors calling fairwinds, did they not take a hypocritical oath, yes then you have a obligation to inform your patients and contact the proper authorities the medical establishment and network with other doctors,
    you are failing at your duties and could be charged under law and your medical licence revoked, this is a moral dilemma, stand up and be counted and don't act like a sniffling dog that you have become.
    Exceptions to all rules apply.
    The general population relies on your opinion and expects doctors to be proactive on health issues.
    Off course what is and what should be.


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    • kez

      Weeman .. you ask why japanese docs are calling Arnie ..

      Arnie says transparency is issue ..

      Why Arnie not taking statistics from those docs and posting publicy on Fairwinds?

      Arnie won't face retribution from Japan. Maybe yet to come.

      (Admin hasn't deleted my nick yet .. felt this was a last point to make before kamakazied.)


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      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        kez, posting can be frustrating, difficult etc, but also a window into our own social psyche. Why not stick around for a while. You can further the cause with your insight. Many times a swore I would never post again. but here I am, still wastin' bandwidth! Look at it this way, even if you help one person, it was worth it


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      • weeman

        No transparency required the doctor can tell there patients behind closed doors, one on one and then they can deny if that what it takes, but the doctors must take a stand, they are the key to the devastation, why all the nosebleeds probably anemic, caused by radiation, sure is one of the first signs of radiation sickness?
        Never give up we will prevail.


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        • We Not They Finally

          weeman, your points are all well-taken, but remember that these people now live in FEAR and need HELP. "Doing the right thing" is not always self-explanatory in what seems like the fascism now in Japan. So let's just applaud people who are able to do the right thing in the face of it and think compassionately about the others. If a doctor speaks out then loses his own livelihood, there are not only terrible ramifications for that doctor's family, but he may be barred from giving patients ANY medical help.

          Then again, there are always courageous people who somehow work past that. But this situation also has horrendous new parameters. Like in the old South, slaves could be snuck out through the underground railroad. And in Nazi Germany, some Jews could escape to other countries if they were lucky. Here, the areas are so contaminated that no one can even safely go in. And if/when people are brought out, the rescuers would also have ongoing escalating medical care at their doorstep.

          I don't think the world has ever seen anything quite like this. I think we have to hope/pray for more whistleblowers to have the plight publicized and maybe outside of Japan because unless there is a cultural explosion there (and there might be!), there are not the outlets there to get the news out.

          Pretty crazy! And OF COURSE we want the doctors there to speak up. But maybe some of their hearts are breaking too if they feel they cannot do that without self-destruct.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Kez, Glad to see you are still here! :)

    Have some more to help teach your kids and have them share with their parents and communities!
    http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/radiation/dir/mstreet/commeet/meet1/brief1/br1n.txt
    Bad news and its time to shut this entire industry down Worldwide now!
    http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/
    A great conversation piece!
    http://www.enviroreporter.com/2011/09/radiation-conversation/

    Go get em and fire up your entire school/community so they become "STOP NUCLEAR" activists!


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    • kez

      My reprieve may be short Obe ..

      Thank you .. couldn't leave anyway wo saying thank you.

      :)

      Peace.


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      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        There is no reason for you to leave! :)

        Yes, some of us are hard core activists here and yes some are in your face types that often like to bitch slap others around. Would you want it any other way?

        That is the enjoyment of this ride and its always worth the fight..

        At some point people will realize what we are communicating to them on these pages and it's truly a dire message for people of the/in the near future.

        Nuclear is going to be a huge problem forever, if we do not shut them all down now.

        Fukushima was the last straw and no Bobby should ever have to deal with this ever again!

        Time is short and you can do great things with all those kids and especially with the new technology available to you and them and the rest of the world.

        There should be no darkness in this world and light can shine bright for all as there still is (A) hope left!

        We can all do this! :) Let's get-er done!


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  • rogerthat

    KDM has it right: use common sense. Stop expecting your government to protect you, how can they when they are bought and paid for by the nuclear industry. In this mad world, it's every man for himself. If you live near a nuclear plant, move. If you live on the US or Canadian west coast, move at least 20km inland. If you live in Japan, move. If you live on the shores of the Pacific, move inland. Stop eating fish unless you know for sure it is caught locally and in uncontaminated waters, and bear in mind that migratory species may spend some time in contaminated waters. Dont eat canned fish unless you are certain of its origin, and so on and on and on. Use common sense, and move as soon as possible, while you can still sell to some other hapless victim. Beat the rush.


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  • J.

    One way that people can convey the damage done and the greater damage that might yet come is to use the acronym MAD to refer to NPPs. I now realize that NPPs create as great a threat oF MAD as nuclear weapons. The time scale is longer, of course, but the threat could actually be greater.


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  • rogerthat

    What i would like to see is suggestions about where to go, what parts of the earth are going to be the last to experience serious contamination. Southern Hemisphere is obvious enough. My bet is Indian Ocean, the African East Coast.


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  • rogerthat

    In due course, trends will start to show up – for sale signs will mushroom in affected or high-risk areas, visa applications will start rising in southern hemisphere countries. people will start looking at what the elites eat, where they live, where they move to, where they go on holiday, etc etc.
    Also, attention will start to fall on high-risk occupations (other than working at Fukushima). Is it a good idea to mow other people's lawns for a living, and breathe in all that dust? Or cleaning houses? Or working on boats that ply the Pacific? Or farming? Or being an aid worker; ask yourself the question, if you were a government whose land was contaminated, what would you do with your contaminated produce, the stuff that you couldn't force-feed your own schoolkids and population? You would export it, and send it to third world countries as food donations. Every aid worker should think of investing in a geiger counter for those sacks of rice for the starving millions.


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  • rogerthat

    I also think that uncontaminated farmland is going to be of great interest to governments and serious money. China is showing some foresight in this matter when it comes to Africa. Southern Hemisphere agribusiness is going to be increasingly bought by Northern Hemisphere money.


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  • mairs mairs

    I was reading that the doctors in Japan negotiate fees with the government. I think every two years? Fees for every procedure are standardized and identical across the country. I assume they are not independent.


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  • zardoz2012 zardoz2012

    I didn't expect the problem to accelerate this quickly.

    Japan may have five years at the most. The Japanese people are loyal and they wont leave their country.

    I don't know who's going to suffer more. The Japanese people, or the rest of the world having to watch this nightmare unfold.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    R A D I A T I O N

    The nosebleeds, if indeed happening, would render the country uninhabitable.


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  • I think we in North America assume everybody thinks like us. Any Japanese out there agree with this article?

    http://www.tofugu.com/2012/03/29/why-arent-japanese-doctors-telling-the-truth/


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  • Physicians and nurses are licensed for life with no requirement for license renewal, continuing medical or nursing education, and no peer or utilization review.[13]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_system_in_Japan

    Even better this article explores the cultural acceptance in Japan of Doctors with holding information to patients. This has been happening long before Fukushima. Sadly an Ace up the sleeve for those minimizing health risks of the triple melt down

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1475609/


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    At a 33% death rate from cancer since 1945, I think they have been hiding a great deal from the rest of the world at large. Gee I wonder why..could it be all those US bases over there keeping things tidy and all?


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Mark, Based on Chernobyl's results I will have to agree with anne..bioaccumulation will eventually take its toll..

    They predict 86 years for a female born today in Japan and that was without understanding the current dangers and taking into account the environmental pollution impacts now happening worldwide.

    Pretty sure we (all humans) will all be dying earlier in the near future….


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    How old was Steve Jobs, Patrick Swayze and/or Vince Flynn? These are just a few..bam outa here!


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Birth dates for those departed
    SJ=1955
    PS=1952
    VF=1966
    Ouch!
    Are you starting to see a pattern/picture yet and when did they start testing those above ground nuclear bombs and then start/continue to roll out all these spewing Nuclear Power Plants all over the the US and Earth?

    Looks to me like.. We Are All Being Exterminated!


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  • You can bet that Fukushima will not be factored into Japanese life expectancy, not officially. Cancer rates will rise and the experts will be "puzzled" just like they are now with rising rates of cancer.
    Has nothing to do with gasoline, diesel, plastic water bottles, fast food, genetically modified food, fake sugar, pesticides, smog, paint fumes, tritium and other releases, bomb testing. Only smoking tobacco and sun-bathing seem to be reasonable causes. Go figure.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Yes, and we will have many more casualties from our new synthetic genetically altered world and its called progress. :)


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Free beer would be nice, but what these nuke puke boys and girls have been doing is downright criminal and no one has gone to jail after 60 years!

    Kind of makes the whole rule of law thing…just a big joke!

    Bobby is not laughing anymore!


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  • Today with Fukushima, we come to learn something about the wealthy nations:
    - there wealth is not for the sake of their own people.
    - Even the Nuklear power they own pretending to protect their people is not for the sake of their own people.
    I wonder why people think that because they can vote for the president they therefor own all what the country possesses.

    http://kanaky.freeiz.com

    It is time for a new understanding : the moral choices we make!!!


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