Tokyo Bay cesium even higher than levels reported off Fukushima — Nearly entire sea floor contaminated by 2014 (VIDEO)

Published: November 4th, 2012 at 4:54 am ET
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Title: Tokyo Bay Contamination More Serious than Fukushima Offing
Source: NHK
Date Aired: Jan 15, 2012
Date Published: Nov 4, 2012
Translated by: guardianofmiyagi

Published: November 4th, 2012 at 4:54 am ET
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63 comments to Tokyo Bay cesium even higher than levels reported off Fukushima — Nearly entire sea floor contaminated by 2014 (VIDEO)

  • guezilla

    I remain amazed at the weird measurement units used in Fukushima reporting. Before Fukushima the standard measure for fallout was Bequerel/M^2, that is activity per area.

    Bequerel per kg for fallout has no meaning at least without additional definitions since the result will depend entirely on how deep soil-sample you take, and how dense (weight/volume) your sample is. Just by selecting these parameters, you can get any bq/kg contamination you want.

    That being said, before the "we're all going to die, it's a mass extinction event"-style comments flood in, I'd like to remind (or perhaps inform) people that after Chernobyl, it rained up to 100 THOUSAND bq/m^2 fallout in large swaths of northern europe. As of yet I've to hear any European nations that existed at that time going extinct, and even evidence of Chernobyl-related mass-graves is in short supply.
    In parts of Scandinavia, more than 25 years after Chernobyl, people can still regularly eat meat contaminated with up to 3000 bq/kg of Cesium, so knowledgeable Europeans mostly scoff at panic over food exceeding Japan's 100 bq/kg limit. This is to say that SO FAR contamination from Fukushima has been small peas compared to Chernobyl. But Fukushima will still be with us for a very long time, and their whole nuclear inventory is 87 times that of Chernobyl, right next to world's highest population spot, so this still has potential to get much worse.


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    • jec jec

      Guess you dont have children with thyroid cancer from living near Chernobyl, or immune system disease like MY family/daughter/self. No big deal to people? Great to talk numbers..but humans are individual. For my daughter/self..we have 100% damage from radiation..no matter WHAT level. Small peas? NOT FOR VICTIMS. The pain and damage to health is TERRIBLE. And if the nuclear "experts" had TOLD us of the radiation spread..likely no one in my family would be sick….we could have taken iodine for the children. Cure for Thyroid cancer? Its not a simple surgery. And not much help for for my daughter..she was ignored(monitored for several years)..because children/teens do not get thyroid cancer..then when her "rare" cancer was discovered..it was outside the thyroid. Have you ever seen anyone suffer from throat cancer..its HORRIBLE. Small peas…


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      • jec jec

        Just picture this for some thyroid cancer victims..you have so much damage to throat..you have to have feeding tubes instead of eating/drinking..you breath thru a hole in your throat..oh..and your energy is gone because they have trouble regulating your hormone levels..oh..and you have damage to your parathyroid glands..cant absorb or utilize calcium..so you can have seizures..strokes..your bones get damage(osteoporosis)..you have facial twitching..you swell up all over. Fun huh? And of course radiation treatments every time you are able to stand it…week in hospital..6 weeks locked away from anyone-you live in a 'cave' at home..throw away all things that touched you..and give to hospital for nuclear waste..the room at the house stays "sealed" for use next time. Having children? Well..first the radiation, and medical radiation cause issues with DNA..and then the hormorn levels..for women..makes it difficult to successfully carry a baby..Small Peas huh?
        Sorry ,but the post really has irritated me..a human can never be a NUMBER..or statistic..which governments and bean/pea counters like to use..


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      • guezilla

        Your children developed thyroid cancer from Fukushima fallout in less than two years? You did notice I said the contamination *from Fukushima* SO FAR is small peas COMPARED TO Chernobyl – and I'm not even talking about the worst affected regions in Ukraine and Belarussia. The effects there are concretely felt and seen, but areas close to Chernobyl got closet to 7.5 MILLION Bq/m^2 (ref: http://www.davistownmuseum.org/Rad7.html).

        Regardless, condolences to you and your family for situation and continued hardships. Unnecessary extra radiation dose is obviously never good (except when you can sell it as a health-therapy to tourists: http://www.petros.cz/spa/spa_ja.asp ) but the point I was making is this is still a fraction of the fallout experienced from Chernobyl even across much of Europe (see the first reference link up there for details). It's not a never before seen extinction-level event that warrants kicking back with popcorn in one hand and beer in another watching the world burn as some people seem to be suggesting – just some perspective.

        The situation will of course be different if another earthquake (given a 30%-50% probability by some scientists) collapses one of the Fukushima irradiated fuel pools forcing abandoning of the site. Or when groundwater keeps leaching radioactive isotopes off the coriums across decades with no plan or technology for dealing with them in sight.


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      • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder

        @Jec !!! , i'm so speechlessly raging inside reading this , so sorry for you and yours !!
        Listen people of the world , THIS will not end itself , there is no code for that in the SICKNESS and its grip on society's , or YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        It can ONLY evolve in the direction it is doing !
        So if you live in a so called "democracy" , you better start tuning the system for the Love of LIVE with all the possibility's and brainpower you

        have left ,
        NOW !!!

        Vote Green Party !!


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    • arclight arclight

      hi guezilla
      "..more than 25 years after Chernobyl, people can still regularly eat meat contaminated with up to 3000 bq/kg of Cesium, so knowledgeable Europeans mostly scoff at panic over food exceeding Japan's 100 bq/kg limit…"

      alot of deer meat in norway is bought on the black market.. about 300 dollars for a hung and gutted deer.. these deer are not tested and there is no awareness in norway of the levels of contamination apart from a small cliche of scientists backed by the big money..

      the way you worded the above statement leans people to believe that they are ok and informed.. that could not be further from the truth..

      the uk has also stopped testing sheep in wales because of rising levels in hot spot areas, some caused by uk nuclear waste emissions

      cancer in norway is rising heavily and we are aware, thanks to criirad that it is the food that offers the greatest immediate danger.. ignored bu european and scandanavian nuclear "scientists"

      like the fact you are pessimistic about the situation but think you are generalising a little bit too much on the effects.. imo

      i think that there are areas in japan that need to be evacuated by young people NOW! and the whole country needs to monitor the land sea and air more effectively to build up a picture..

      i wouldnt let my kids eat gmo or "slightly contaminated food given the choice.. but there is no choice apart from keeping aware of where the contamination is.. not good!


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      • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

        Indeed Arclight, just two days ago, I was meeting with a young man, 30ish, from Russia, he stated something similar, with regards to contaminated food. He said they have evolved to deal with it,and it is no longer harmful, it just passes through our bodies now..

        I had to correct him, I told him that radiation contamination does not follow Darwin's law, survival of the fittest.

        As a matter of fact, the studies have shown that it will dumb down the species, and genetically alter it. He was surprised.. not sure that he believed me.

        Amazing the level of denial, and misinformation that errs on the side of the industry.. I could only wonder where he got that information from, and as we talked, it occurred it was "common" knowledge.


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        • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

          That is part of the misinformation campaign, much like the smile and it will not hurt you campaign in Japan.

          ANother one is how drinking alcohol will protect you from radiation. SO people drink a lot of booze, then go into high radiation areas and collect mushrooms, wild animals, believing that they are 'protected'.

          Of course, they also drink a lot while eating the contaminated food, to gain more protection.

          The nuclear industry and medical industry loves this kind of propoganda, because they get to roll in the profits and gain the customers that get sick; but they all KNOW that is was NOT radiation… just not enough drinking, smiling or genetic adaptation.

          In other words, it is all of the victims fault.

          Meanwhile, the criminals run loose, collecting bonus checks.

          Seems like this is the way of the world, anywhere you go.. no matter which industry.


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    • arclight arclight

      should also point out in your posit that

      ".. it rained up to 100 THOUSAND bq/m^2 fallout in large swaths of northern europe.."

      shows us the iaea figure for chernobyl likely increased to cover up Bomb testing/other accidents etc

      and the japanese and iaea have been covering up the contamination levels in japan with superb efficiency, so efficient it is obvious to everyone including this crowd

      Taiwan -Lawmaker pushes for stronger nuclear safety oversight -Blames World Association of Nuclear Operators!

      http://nuclear-news.net/2012/11/04/taiwan-lawmaker-pushes-for-stronger-nuclear-safety-oversight-blames-world-association-of-nuclear-operators/

      and brunei recently banning fukushima food as europe "officially" allows it in directly instead of through nafta.. because of the high allowable limits that arent reported in the nedia..

      cant think of anything else..
      maybe this
      would you rather get your food from brunei or gomel ? :)


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      • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

        The Middle East is rapidly and permanently being contaminated with DU weapons fallout…

        In Falluja, the birth defect rate is getting closer to 100% and doctors advise women NOT to have babies.

        WHy? Radioactive and toxic heavy metal; uranium from the shelling of the TOWN, with radioactive waste product known as depleted uranium.

        It blows around in the dust and sandstorms.. will last for millions of years.

        To the claim that radioactivity has no effect, check out the towns in Belarus, Fallujah and many towns in the USA, all in my blog.

        The horrible body count is piling up, but NO ONE is counting the victims. It is all the victims fault, not the people using this stuff, or accidentally spilling it, like the military industrial complex, or the nuclear power industry..

        Nope, those industries are now like GOD, to be worshipped and given all of your money.

        The NUCLEAR GOD is sitting on a throne, beyond all critics, beyond all judgement and punishment.

        Mere mortals like us who die and get sick NOT from radiation, nope, not ever, according to the military and nuke GODS.

        We all suffer and die from lack of smiling, lack of drinking enough booze, or not having the 'right' genes that adapt to health giving and health promoting radiation quickly enough.


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    • I find this part of your statement above deplorable.

      [after Chernobyl] "…people can still regularly eat meat contaminated with up to 3000 bq/kg of Cesium, so knowledgeable Europeans mostly scoff at panic over food exceeding Japan's 100 bq/kg limit."
      - guezilla
      ___________

      Just because they 'scoff' at panic, does not mean they are right.

      I would state it differently.
      "…people should NOT eat meat contaminated with up to 3000 bq/kg of Cesium!!! Truly knowledgeable Europeans know that ANY amount of additional RADIATION above normal background is NOT GOOD. Especially INGESTED. Those who 'scoff' are idiots and, at the very least, are putting their 'delicate' DNA and future offspring at RISK."
      - ChasAha


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    • razzz razzz

      guezilla November 4, 2012 at 6:05 am: Typical of a nuclear power apologist trying to comprehend the incomprehensible while trolling at the same time. The message of a nuclear apologists is that human sacrifice is necessary for them to be able to turn on their light switch without interruption.

      Nuclear reactions having no off switch is just a minor detail to nuclear apologists.


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    • Guezilla

      Have you studied genomic instability?

      Try researching that topic. What you will find is that the dangers of internal emitters span GENERATIONS.

      Caldicott recently stated that recessive mutations can take up to 20 generations to manifest.

      My analysis of the first BEAR report, dated 1956, indicate that geneticists were concerned about the FUTURE of the human race
      http://majiasblog.blogspot.com/2012/06/systematic-study-in-first-bear-study-on.html

      Current research on genomic instability – illustrated by de novo mutations in people with autism – might cause significant reproductive and health problems in future generations.

      The concern with radiation is GENETIC MOSAICISM

      At some yet to be determined level, humanity will become extinct,

      which might be helpful for remaining life on planet eaarth…


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      • typo
        "current research on genomic instability…. reveals significant possibilities for reproductive and health problems in future generations…"

        Round-up and Bt are also culprits….


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  • maax maax

    I remember Arnie Gunderson saying that the Japanese planed to use radioactive wastes in order to fill reclaimed areas of the Tokyo Bay, because they have no right to dump them directly in the ocean, according to the international agreements.

    Did they do that finally? I mean where do these high measures come from??


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    • guezilla

      If you watch the video, though there's very little substance mostly in japanese and few translations here and there… It indicates Kyoto university has a simulation indicating just this would happen from the river carrying contaminated particles from everywhere within its sources, and then depositing the river silt as sediments where the rivers flow into the sea. So would be hydrologic accumulation and not direct fallout deposits or additional radiation source.

      My first thought was whether they had checked for direct contamination sources as well, kinda like the Tokyo hot-spots were blamed on discarded radium bottles that were discovered only after Fukushima made people check for radiation: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8828204/Old-radium-bottles-blamed-for-Tokyo-radiation.html (Whether this was the whole truth of the matter or not). I suppose that is still a possibility as well, but in the big scheme of things the source won't matter so much.

      Otoh if that is true, then now they could try "Since it's already contaminated, lets dump the rest of the radioactive waste in there".


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      • arclight arclight

        Does BRAWM also support the dumping of radioactive waste into a bay which communicates with the Pacific ocean?

        Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 2011-12-30 18:47 Berkeley Radiological Air and Water Monitoring Forum
        http://fairewinds.com/content/tepco-believes-mission-accomplished-regula

        Japan is dumping radioactive waste into Tokyo Bay which feeds into the Pacific Ocean.
        Japan has set allowable exposure limits for it's citizens at 2000 millirem.
        IAEA supports Japan's dumping and new exposure limits.
        Does BRAWM also support the dumping of radioactive waste into a bay which communicates with the Pacific ocean?
        Does BRAWM support increasing the exposure limits?

        Is the Japanese government and the IAEA protecting the nuclear industry and not the people of Japan by claiming that Fukushima is stable when it is not? Fairewinds’ chief engineer Arnie Gundersen outlines major inconsistencies and double-speak by the IAEA, Japanese Government, and TEPCO claiming that the Fukushima accident is over. Dynamic versus static equilibrium, escalated dose exposures to the Japanese children and nuclear workers, and the blending of radioactive materials with non-contaminated material and spreading this contaminated ash throughout Japan are only a small part of this ongoing nuclear tragedy.

        http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/forum/218/tepco-believes-mission-accomplished-regulators-allow-radioactive-dumping-tokyo-bay.2011-12

        toal silence.. :)


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      • arclight arclight

        the telegraph.. lol

        Hitachi unveils £20bn plan to build nuclear reactors in the UK

        Prime Minister David Cameron hailed the deal as a “decades-long, multi-billion pound vote of confidence in the UK that will contribute vital new infrastructure to power our economy”.

        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/9644399/Hitachi-unveils-20bn-plan-to-build-nuclear-reactors-in-the-UK.html

        The country is currently storing about 112 tonnes of civil separated plutonium at Sellafield, including some 28 tonnes of material belonging to overseas customers.

        http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/WR-Prism_proposed_for_UK_plutonium_disposal-0112114.html

        this is better though

        October 31, 2012 – for immediate release

        UK-based anti-nuclear groups Kick Nuclear & Japanese Against Nuclear (UK) [1] have condemned the £700m acquisition of nuclear new build consortium Horizon by Hitachi Ltd. [2] They call on the Japanese firm to abandon its plans to build new nuclear plants in the UK [3] and are calling for a boycott of the company until it does so.

        Hitachi was responsible for the manufacture of one of the reactors at the Fukushima No.1 plant in Japan, which was devastated by the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami. [4]

        cont..


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        • arclight arclight

          There are also questions about the reliability of the reactor design Hitachi wishes to build in the UK. [5]

          Nancy Birch, a spokesperson for Kick Nuclear, said:

          “As a Japanese company with first-hand experience of the Fukushima nuclear disaster, which continues to pollute the environment, Hitachi is only too aware of the dangers of nuclear power.

          “Building more nuclear power plants is a danger to everyone and will do nothing to solve the long-term environmental problems we face.

          “If these nuclear plants are built, it will be us and future generations who will ultimately have to foot the bill for the clean up, with Hitachi walking away with any profits.

          "We simply don’t need dangerous new nuclear power plants in the UK. Our energy needs can be met more safely, sustainably and cost-effectively through a combination of energy saving and renewable and decentralised energy, including solar, wind and marine energy.

          “Instead of building new nuclear white elephants, Hitachi should invest in renewable energy. We want a future, not a disaster.”

          ENDS
          http://stopnuclearpoweruk.net/content/uk-anti-nuclear-groups-slam-hitachi-acquisition-horizon-call-boycott

          1. Kick Nuclear is a London-based group campaigning against the UK’s addiction to nuclear power and supporting sustainable alternatives
          http://kicknuclear.org

          Japanese Against Nuclear (UK) is a group of Japanese citizens resident in the UK who campaign against nuclear power…


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    • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

      They did and still are dumping in Tokyo Bay.. strange that the movie did not mention it at all.


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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    Hi maax,
    I think the levels might have risen due to the fact that the incinirated nuclear waste is dumped into Tokyo Bay.
    Also, there might be river mounds that carry the contaminants from the mountains and woods into Tokyo Bay basin….

    And no end in sight.


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  • Comments of guesila,jec and maax are indeed very relevant in their own ways. They illustrate the real world invoking the true state of affairs regarding the reality of ionising radiation and modern civilization. Yes geuesila have you ever read ECRR 2010 and ICRP? Have you ever heard of averaging ionising radiation model and the mechanism of internal rads? See the pain of jecs. The analogy is like that. Either there is a hit or none at all. Modern civilization(mc) is based on averaging the costs and benefits. It forgets or ignores the truth: Everything is connected to everything else. jecs are examples of nuke wastes enetring our bodies and converting us into the nuclear wastes. Read Chernobyl consequences by Yablokov er t al. Read Fukushima what to expect and yes I cry at what has happened because of arrogant falsehoods propagated by the tenets of mc. jec's feelings show that as far as the uniqueness of each living being is concerned, extinction has begun. Why, that 23 to 33 million excess infant mortality has occurred due to nuclear projects in India alone in the nuclear era till before Fukushima is seen by applying scientific principles. And 579200 due to Chernobyl. For the sake of the rights of ALL life please be informed from the excellent works of Mahatma Gandhi, Gofman, Bertell, Sternglass,…


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    • We Not They Finally

      Thankyou for your post…THe question is no longer that we are moving towards extinction….The question is how long will it take? WE are looking at the end of the food chain. THe total contamination of the Oceans and the death of Bees and all the method of polination ending fruits vegetables and many of our fellow species.Nuclear energy was the door of doom. Caused by Greed beyond thought and foolishness beyond idiocy. The deed has been done.We know that this is much worse then the comet that destroyed the dinasaurs…Some radioactivity has a half life of billions of years.Now some elites are still obsessed with human over population..How idiotic can any one be?


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      • @We Not They Finally
        November 4, 2012 at 8:30 am
        The comment
        "extinction….The question is how long will it take?"
        is very very painful, and moves in the direction of hopelessness,were it not for the fact that perhaps many are still healthy and perhaps many habitats can still recover. Scientific, spiritual, holistic efforts at community cross communications, discussions, actions may still be very relevant. Some feel, incorrectly that we in the East because of 'action, motive and result' karma are resigned to our fate and will not act sufficiently to usher in a vigorous ecologically based policy worldwide. But they are wrong. One look at the way of life which asserts " The world is bound by actions which do not return"
        and the explanations of our great sages like Mahatma Gandhi and M Hiriyanna(Indian Conception of Values,1975,Kavyalaya) is enough to state that India has a long tradition of practicing holistic living with respect for all life and non-life. This is enough to repudiate the belittling of our ways of living. It is this way of living that recognises that man is not the centre of the cycle of life must be the way forward to eliminate more Fukushimas and not the destructive positive feedback methods of "reform" that supports the cancer of runaway consumerism that lays the world waste and then goes on to mine the asteroids. The use enjoyably of living energy(700000 MW in the world of 7 billions of humans)
        may still be the sine qua non of living it up in…


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    • We Not They Finally

      Mr Kumar I share your fear of this terrible process which threatens all life on this planet.Am I correct in my assumption that this process of damage to fertility DNA and the future of humanity short of a miracle will spell the last gasp of a human species that has proven to greeedy stupid and devoid of any real compassion for its concern for evolution and survival has essentially condemned its own to extinction?

      Would Russian roulette played by the population have been a more
      sensible conclusion to the game of self extinction.At least temporarily some humans would have won.Now we have all lost.


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  • jackassrig

    God save us from PHDer's, simulators, and experts. If you like weather prediction, you'll love simulators.


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  • We Not They Finally

    Please understand that we are destroying this earth.We get 70& of all our oxygen from the sea. How sir do you intend to breath?
    The homeostatsis process which is responsible for the life of the cell is in great danger.There is no reason that the plutonium radiation which is moving through the air and sea and land will cause great damage to the genes and DNA.Things will never get better. With radiation of that sort things never get better. We will end up as the last chapter of Nevil Shutes On THe Beach.


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  • NoNukes NoNukes

    AP News
    4 on Japan nuclear safety team took utility money
    By Yuri Kageyama on November 03, 2012 Tweet Facebook LinkedIn Google Plus 0 Comments

    TOKYO (AP) — Four members of a Japanese government team that sets atomic reactor safety standards received funding from utility companies or nuclear manufacturers, raising questions about their neutrality in the wake of last year's tsunami-triggered disaster.
    The Nuclear Regulation Authority said Friday that Nagoya University Professor Akio Yamamoto received 27.14 million yen ($339,000) over the past three years for research on reactors. That included 6.28 million yen ($79,000) from a subsidiary of Tokyo Electric Power Co., the utility that runs the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant that suffered meltdowns last year.

    The authority said three others on the six-member standards team received industry funding. Getting such money is not illegal, but could call the neutrality of the team into question, since the industry would benefit from laxer standards. http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-11-03/japan-nuclear-safety-team-took-utility-money


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  • We Not They Finally

    Mr Kumar I am not entirely hopeless. We all have found ourselves living at an amazing time.We can awake….Some call it enlightenment. Some call it self actualization.In all cases it is going to the source and bathing in the divine ocean of love that is our very nature.

    Then we return to the real being that lies at the source. WE discover there is no death just transformation and move on.The earth was our old home. Its time to discover our real home.


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    • @We Not They Finally
      November 4, 2012 at 10:57 am
      I agree with you thoroughly. And still life is a many splendoured thing and when I find that I have not yet done all that I must do I am urged to work and move forward. Well that is life, striving to be negentropic and doing all that can be done to correct disorder. enenews is one such medium where people vigorously participate and are emboldened by the revelations of things going on. Its that participation that must increase to much greater heights, in spite of the impasse that Busby speaks of. We must strive to make ECRR 2010 and its improvements into law.People must prevail over our leaders to abandon nukes and those responsible be forced to take care of the n-wastes. I have hope in the anti nuke movement taking hold of India and also look at the marvellous transformation in Germany. If only living energy enjoyment takes a hold on us!


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  • arclight arclight

    Breaking! UN endorses recommendations for Japan to improve human rights record – Cites nuclear contamination

    "..Other recommendations include the safeguarding of Japanese citizens’ right to lead a healthy life, in light of the enormous amount of radioactive fallout spewed over a vast area by the March 2011 meltdowns at the Fukushima No. 1 plant, the report said…."

    http://nuclear-news.net/2012/11/04/breaking-un-endorses-recommendations-for-japan-to-improve-human-rights-record-cites-nuclear-contamination/

    and while you are on nuclear-news try this too

    More than 10,000 people from across Japan are seeking criminal charges against officials of Japan’s government and the utility that operates the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, after a similar mass complaint this summer accused 33 officials of causing death and injurythrough negligence.

    http://nuclear-news.net/2012/11/04/second-mass-complaint-coming-over-fukushima-disaster/
    i bet nhk know this?


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  • alasanon

    Hello, informed persons!
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    – yet, his Karl Rove opponent is massively
    funded by Big Nuke, so he's the financial underdog.

    http://www.johndouglassforcongress.com


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  • alasanon

    But, he wins every debate and has the REAL leadership
    experience as a retired Brigadier General!!..
    http://www.sierraclub.org/politics/endorsements/
    http://www.johndouglassforcongress.com/
    And as a farmer close to the land, he knows about
    potential fallout contamination!…

    PLEASE BACK HIM *NOW* for U.S. CONGRESS, WHEREVER YOU ARE!!
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  • alasanon

    THANKS!!–we really need help! They want
    to run amok with uranium Mining in VA–
    very hazardous…nuking us :/


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  • kintaman kintaman

    So am I right in deciding not to move back to Tokyo despite being ridiculed by some folks here in North America and in Japan?


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    • Anthony Anthony

      Trust your gut. Its right.


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      • kintaman kintaman

        My gut got me to leave Japan with family asap after 3.11 but I have been tormented ever since with the media suppression of the dangers and the lack of any concern by anyone (in Japan and beyond).

        I feel like I, and others, have been banished from Japan due to this disaster while everyone just goes on with their normal lives there. Meanwhile I do not know what I will be able to do to support my wife and family here now. Also yearning to go back and simply live is making lose it somewhat. It is all too much psychologically. Apologies for these selfish statements as I should worry about this really affected by the fallout more directly.


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  • Sickputer

    Kman… The early refugees are looking smarter and smarter every day. Soon a flood to follow. I can't imagine no signs of intelligent life in the 36.5 million tormented souls still in the metroplex.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Sad for Tokyo that no scientist on earth can come up with an antidote for melted fuel. Sad for all of us.


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  • pcjensen

    "Nearly entire sea floor contaminated by 2014" – this is what happens when you dump radioactive waste into Tokyo bay over a period of time.

    To the poster up top whose comment is shy on citations and evaluation of the differences between Chernobyl and Fukushima – that generalization leaves out vital points, such as:

    Chernobyl, regardless of how many of whichever radionuclide you refer to were released, was not a combination of reactors going berserk, it was one, and it got covered – you forget to note too that Fukushima has been releasing mass quantities of hot rads for more than a year and half, now. Chernobyl did not do what Fukushima does. There is no comparing these two nuclear accidents. I notice you don't go into the health issues surrounding Chernobyl's impact on northern European countries. Nor the reported critical health news coming out of Japan. Reference Fukushima Radioactive Contamination Symptoms Research https://sites.google.com/site/fukushimareport/


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  • Sickputer

    And then you have the rehab celebrity experts on panicking:

    Lindsay Lohan via Twitter last Sunday:

    "WHY is everyone in SUCH a panic about hurricane (i'm calling it Sally)..?" she tweeted Sunday night. "Stop projecting negativity! Think positive and pray for peace"

    SP: Way to go Lohan! Your advice is as intellectual as your life choices.


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    • pcjensen

      yeah, that always irks me, especially when coupled with 'government doesn't want people to panic" – well, not many of want people to panic, but I think it'd be great if the got mad as hell about this and took action to protect themselves. F* the liars. They will end up in jail.


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  • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

    For anyone interested in diving down into the details of all of this, see http://www.agreenroadblog.com Click on 'pages' once you are there.

    Chernobyl, Fukushima, Tokyo, low dose radiation effects, much more… Just plan to be there for awhile.


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  • Sickputer

    Why those big dummies in Tokyo government! Didn't they see how Tepkill solved the radiation at the Fukushima Daiichi lagoon? They paved it! >;->

    So what are the Diet nucleocrats stalling for? Get those concrete trucks rolling down to the bay! Seal that super toxic incinerator sludge under a foot of concrete. And if the sludge builds up again add more concrete layers. Do it enough and you will have a big roller rink for all the sick kids in Tokyo to play on. When they get out of the cancer wards they can have a big skating party.


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  • Estimating1 Estimating1

    It takes generation for the full effect of radiation to manifest itself in plants and insects. People are the same, we probably wont know the effects of nuclear testing, processing and indistrial accidents for another 100 years and it will be a moot point then. dont say, look at Chernobyl, they are all ok, because it doesnt represent the reality of the situation, it is just a small snipit of time and is in no way conclusive. It shouldnt be reflected unpon for factual resultants relatve to future steps because the experimant is not finished, the results are not in!! We have only been at this for 2 to 3 generations, give it another 2 or 3 and see where we are at.


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  • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder

    I find it hard to act like i can swallow the "no choice" part for us to live and die like this , for 2 or 3 generations more .


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  • Gerb00

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    they have a product (Anatabloc) that will regulate the Thyroid and probably protect against cancer.

    Google it to get lots of testimonials. I am not trying to get you to buy anything, just check it out.


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