Top Conservative Website: If lawsuit proves true and Tepco lied about radiation to get Americans in there, this is despicable

Published: December 29th, 2012 at 5:09 pm ET


Excerpt From: US sailors sue Tokyo Power for masking radiation danger
Source: Hot Air (#1,053 in US)
Date: December 29, 2012

[…] When people show up to help you during a disaster of this magnitude they’re already putting their lives on the line. Assuming the complaint proves true and Tokyo Power knowingly lied about the radiation levels to get the Americans in there and working, this is despicable. It’s also not the sort of thing that money can fix, but that doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t be made to pay for their horrible performance. Of course, that doesn’t even begin to address the disservice they did to their own citizens in the vicinity of the reactor. […]

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Published: December 29th, 2012 at 5:09 pm ET


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112 comments to Top Conservative Website: If lawsuit proves true and Tepco lied about radiation to get Americans in there, this is despicable

  • Centaur Centaur

    Welcome to the _Real_ World, "Top Conservative Website". 🙂
    (If you're not just pretending the disgust, of course.)

    • gottagetoffthegrid

      Yeah, TEPCOs behavior only became "despicable" once it became clear that a few dozen AMERIKANs were affected. The thousands of Fukushima kids that will have their thyroids cut out in the next 2 years are jus the cost of doing business, I guess. I hate right wing hypocrisy

  • Anthony Anthony

    Uh oh….them's fightin words.

    • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

      hehehe.. wait till they find out who ALL the LIARS are!!! Reality has been going on while they were watching "reality tv"

      • moonshellblue moonshellblue

        While I dislike being lied to, I am realistic and understand the implications of informing the public on a wide scale as Enewesers know the truth. By inserting the fear of radiation contamination into an already precarious economy would be disastrous and cause even more problems for all concerned. However, I would be shutting down all Mark one BWR's and all nuclear power plants located along waterways. Having said that it will take five to ten years to complete and as I've said before there is no safe way to store the spent fuel. It truly is a mind boggling issue and the implications are surmountable. One example is the end of the seafood industry and the ripple effects hence small business owners such as restaurants, rentals, etc. Please don't misunderstand, yes I think it's wrong that the EPA shut off the detectors and that we continue to purchase food and other goods from Japan but it would be devastating for the Japanese people if we stopped purchasing their goods and on and on. I wish I had the answer but I do understand why the government is hesitant to inform an already paranoid and dare I say freaked out public and rightly so , but adding fuel to the fire, so to speak, does not make sense to me. NO NUKES.

        • Anthony Anthony

          I think it is exactly as you say it. What I see now is even through reincarnation it is what we must bear and live with. It would be healthier and stronger for Man(men) to be truthful hereon. We have entered a chemically organically adjusted period in human history. The truth maybe has never been more important. You have to consider how long the planets processes took to bury the original radiations, so that LIFE could take place above ground. We have taken up and spread what the planet so brilliantly had overcome in order to return life to the planet. Radiation changes what it is – what we are.

          You would never give someone some radiation for their birthday.

        • nedlifromvermont

          good points Moonshellblue …

          … is it time to wake up from the nuclear HOAX??? …

          Sheeple? …. I don't know, you decide!!!!

          … peace!!!

        • richard richard

          hi moonshellblue, i can hear your concern on the impact of revealing the full story to the public.

          but to be honest, all the things you're suggesting simply play into the hands of the nuke industry by obscuring the full and true nature of what we are in for.

          you talk about 5 to 10 years to shutdown nukes. Well add another 5 to 10 years thanks to obfuscation such as you're supporting.

          let the economies fail, let people realise they are eating contaminated food, let everyone wake up to the abomination that is the nuke industry.

          oh, one last point, I believe all NPPs are beside waterways, that's the only way they can operate. They suck in the water in massive volumes to cool the reaction, then flush out heated and polluted water at the other end (contributing to global warming and cancers by the way).

          so you'll have to stop all plants, going by your qualifier.

        • kalidances

          You must also remember the nuke waste storage sites that are situated away from the main reactor sites. There are places like Fukushima (and Assumption Parish) all over the US. One good hurricane, flood, tsunami, or lightning strike is going to realign a lot of America's priorities.

        • PurpleRain PurpleRain

          This is a tangent comment here, but…I'm curious how many other people have noticed grocery stores in their areas, neighborhoods, towns, cities, etc..where the entire seafood counter or section has been remodeled? I have been to 4 local grocery stores and every one of them has made changes and subtracted at least half-the floor space or section space that had previously been taken up with nice refrigerated glass-see-in areas…and this has all taken place within the last 4 to 6 months.

  • Ganxet Ganxet

    What about 600.000 liquidators from chernovyl disaster?

  • buzzz buzzz

    Cool. So Tepco (et al) lied about Fukushima to get the Americans in there. Here's dumb old me thinking it was mainly done to avoid a stampede in Japan.

    This is a tough time for conservatives. One the one hand there is the love of suing anybody that can be milked for any cash, on the other there's that nagging worry that there may be a precedent in the making, applicable any time at a nuclear power plant near you…

    Would have thought that they'd come up with something better than "They tricked us" though…

    • Centaur Centaur

      "Cool. So Tepco (et al) lied about Fukushima to get the Americans in there. Here's dumb old me thinking it was mainly done to avoid a stampede in Japan."

      The underlying question (not asked yet) is: Were the US top officials who ordered the U.S.S. Ronald Reagan to be at that place at that time informed about the true radiation levels and its potential hazards? If so, they're to blame. If not, TEPCO resp. the Japanese Government is to blame.

      • PurpleRain PurpleRain

        I truly would have expected that the USS Ronald Reagan would have been there and been taking it's own radiation measurements and readings…

    • razzz razzz

      buzzz and Centaur: Looks like the two are having a hard time dealing with the 'collateral' damage while keeping their own lights on and this lawsuit disturbs their slumber.

      These are one time posters that can't think the entire situation through without getting a headache.

      Wonder what the two posters would have said if TEPCO didn't tell Japanese rate payers where their reactors' fallout plume was headed next?

      • Centaur Centaur

        "Looks like the two [me and buzzz] are having a hard time dealing with the 'collateral' damage while keeping their own lights on and this lawsuit disturbs their slumber."


        "These are one time posters that can't think the entire situation through without getting a headache."

        No and no.

        "Wonder what the two posters would have said if TEPCO didn't tell Japanese rate payers where their reactors' fallout plume was headed next?"

        TEPCO/Japanese government didn't (for a pretty too long time, at least, until it was way too late for many evacuees to flee into the right direction), so your hypothetical question itself is misleading and disinformative.

        Sorry, if i got your posting completely wrong. If not so, your remarks are completely misplaced.

      • Centaur Centaur

        To make one of my statements above clearer: The question i asked about the responsibility and liability is meant simply juridical. From my POV, the US government knew darn well about the actual situation from "hour #1" and ongoing. The question is: Can one prove it? If so, IT is to blame (and NOT TEPCO and/or Jap.Gov!) – UNLESS they themselves got good reason to lie (?) to their own ship crew and can convince the (potential) future court in law of their assessment leading to their decisions.

        • razzz razzz

          I told you, you would get a headache trying to think it through.

          What you really mean is that collusion took place between governments and companies to hide the facts and the little people, as a general rule of thumb, can't sue governments so you are taking the safe position that the lawsuit is futile whether what happened is illegal and/or immoral or not.

          I think that pretty much sums your (and others') position up.

          • Centaur Centaur

            No. I say that such "finger pointing" (aka as "lawsuits") is a) NOT futile (never!) but b) always has to point to the right target… also, if that means, that one's OWN GOVERNMENT is to blame! – That you can't sue any of "those guys" with any chance of juridical success is sadly true and harsh reality… but that doesn't mean, that no benefit at all can emerge from such lawsuits… at least, it puts the Fukushima accident back on page 1… or at least on "page 3".

        • buzzz buzzz

          A valiant effort at clarification, Centaur.

          Strangely, my head does actually hurt trying to think Razzz's comments through.

          Looking at Razzz's last comment, I'd say your effort was sadly futile.

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    All governments and scientists cover up the releases of radiation. Happening today, right now. The problem is, allowing reactors to exist. Remove them, and problem solved. Otherwise, more disasters will happen, as proven by Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, and Fukushima.

    • nedlifromvermont

      Yo! TheBigPicture! … Keep telling it like it is!!!

      I love your persistance!!!! … and agree with every post you share!!!

      Peace be with you, my friend in cyberspace!!!


    • WindorSolarPlease

      Agree +100 TheBigPicture

  • natano natano

    Top conservative website? Sounds like an oxymoron. What do they talk about? Birth certificates? Cutting earned income benefits – whoops i mean entitlements? How we'll all freeze in the dark if we even talk about a more efficient mass transit system or renewable energy? Or do they mainly talk about how the founding fathers were all extremely religious and enjoyed burning women at the stake?
    The best propaganda ploy pulled over the american publics eyes is this self perpetuating myth that companies like GE (yes, the makers of the mark1 boilers) who happen to own NBC bring you the "liberal" media. One look at media ownership will tell you that there are no liberals who own large media outlets. Sorry freaks, George Soros does not control the media like Rupert Murdoch does. And if you think media ownership doesn't influence editorial content, then you, my friend, if you really are my friend, are misinformed. Which is worse than being uninformed. I don't blame you tho. Look at what a joke US public high school history is. We have all been thru a very carefully crafted conditioning program that above all, prevents us from questioning our education. The first thing a good education will teach you is to question it. Please, somebody prove me wrong.

    • Anthony Anthony

      Good post.

    • nedlifromvermont

      You're getting close, natano, my friend …

      … we are all children of Goebbels … "the bigger the lie … repeated … etc. " …

      … GE bears a heavy burden …

      … which they seek to shed …

      .. through lies, misinformation, Propaganda …

      … Jeffrey Immelt …

      … may you burn in a radioactive Hoelle …

      … peace !!! …

      • kalidances

        I can appreciate your frustration but what is your game plan to help the evacuees or the sick/dying here in America?

  • deey5926

    I just want to comment on the Sailors that were on the flight deck USS Ronald Reagan Carrier that day to protect and serve.The Japan goverment lied about the radation that it was not servere but it was. One of the Sailors is my child and if I could only tell you stories that was told to me I would.You think the military makes you strong it doesn't for the things my child saw in those waters over in Japan.My child will never be the same.

    • nedlifromvermont

      oh! and GE did not lie???

      … peace!!! …

      Hoelle is German for Hell …

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        Don't you have any compassion for deey 5926 and her son? I am very sorry that your son has had his health and psyche damaged. And I am sorry for the Japanese shills on enenews who pretend to be from Vermont.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

          Pretending that the Japanese don't run the American nuclear companies is fantasy:

          GE Hitachi, Westinghouse Could Benefit From India's Shift on Nuclear Energy
          “NEW YORK (TheStreet) — GE Hitachi Nuclear Energy, a partnership between General Electric (GE_) and Hitachi (HIT_), and Westinghouse Electric, a Toshiba unit are likely to benefit from the recently approved Civil Liability for Nuclear Damage Bill in India.

          “On Monday, the Indian Parliament approved the compensation bill for nuclear accidents subsequent to tougher provisions on supplier liability. This move would end the two-year nuclear ban on India, whose atomic energy market is estimated between $150 billion and $175 billion.
          “It would enable U.S. companies to compete and invest almost $100 billion to $150 billion in India's nuclear power industry. Additionally, these companies would compete with European state- run rival companies as India boosts nuclear power generation to increase thirteen-fold by 2030 to spur economic growth. …”

          • kalidances

            Anne everything is ultimately going to be okay. Have faith. Take deep breaths. General Electric has a longstanding dislike of Japan which is why it was very surprising that they were so accommodating with nuke designs for the Japanese plants in the '60's.

            At any rate I would advise you to look up GE's relationship to the B-29 Superfortress in relation to Japan.

            As far as GE's evil history is concerned this will help explain why GE has not acted in regard to Fukushima:

            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

              Sorry, Kali. It is no longer GE. It is GEH. Please do not live in the past.

              GEH Leverages 50-Plus Years of Experience Building Nuclear Industries Worldwide by Signing MOU with Poland’s Warsaw University of Technology
              “WARSAW, POLAND—October 4, 2012—On the heels of GE’s (NYSE: GE) 20th anniversary celebration in Poland earlier this week, GE Hitachi Nuclear Energy (GEH) today announced a memorandum of understanding (MOU) with one of Poland’s preeminent technical universities, the Warsaw University of Technology (Warsaw UT).

              “The agreement between the two industry leading entities focuses on future nuclear workforce development and other innovation opportunities in anticipation of Poland implementing a nuclear energy program for the first time. This agreement is a prime example of GEH’s philosophy of leveraging local expertise and building infrastructure in areas adopting nuclear power.

              “’Signing this MOU with GE Hitachi Nuclear Energy illustrates how important it is for the nuclear industry to work with Poland’s academic, government and business communities to develop a human and infrastructure capacity that is well positioned for the future,’ said Professor Jan Szmidt, rector of Warsaw UT, one of the country’s largest universities.

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                “The MOU builds on the long-term collaboration of GEH and Warsaw UT on various workforce development initiatives. In 2010, GEH donated 10 of its GateCycle™ licenses (relating to a customized software package used to model nuclear steam cycles) to Warsaw UT to help train a new generation of engineers to operate Poland’s future nuclear power plants. Each May, GEH also sponsors an annual Nuclear Congress organized by Warsaw UT. Additionally, a number of students from both Warsaw UT and other institutions from across Poland held summer internships at GEH’s global headquarters in Wilmington, N.C.

                “For more than 50 years, from connecting the first nuclear reactor to a commercial electricity grid in Vallecitos, Calif., in 1957 to constructing the only Generation III reactor built today, GE and Hitachi have been building nuclear industries from the ground up. GEH, GE and Hitachi’s global nuclear alliance, has the experience, best practices and best technology, including the world’s safest reactor[1], to bring safe, reliable nuclear energy to Poland,” said Craig Ihrke, vice president of commercial operations for GEH.

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                “This collaboration between GEH and Warsaw UT is the latest in a series of similar agreements that GEH has made with several Polish universities to help ensure that the country develops a deep domestic pool of nuclear engineers and skilled workers needed to build and operate future nuclear power plants. For example, GEH is working with Warsaw UT and other schools to enhance educational and training opportunities for a wide range of important positions, including: mechanical engineers, corrosion protection specialists, electrical engineers and chemical engineers. …”


            • richard richard

              hi kalidances. a little optimistic maybe? 'everything is ultimately going to be okay'.

              does that mean we might as well shutdown enenews et al and head to the beach?

              sorry, i just don't see it. why say such a thing? was it sarcasm maybe and i didn't get it?

          • razzz razzz

            Anne: It is still GE, a US company. GEH is a subsidiary of the parent company GE. Partnered with shared responsibilities and costs GE with the help of the US government (that GE lobbies) continues trying to make a buck around the world with nuke power.

          • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

            Every single last one of these nuke companies is in bed with each other and all of our governments. If there are tax dollars involved.

            This "industry" could not, would not exist without tax dollars, the more you dig, the more dots connect. They are all partners in crime period.

            It does not matter what the name on the outside is.

      • deey5926

        YOU have no clue. Thanks for the support, unless you have someone involved in something that may cause that person with servere health issues then don't be judgeamental.Thanks Anne for your support.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

          deey5936,I just wanted to let you know that we have to argue with those who are paid by the Japanese government on this website every day. They are very subtle most of the time, but much less so other times. There are also many others from foreign countries who criticize the US all the time on this blog.

          No one from the US would be unkind to someone in the military who was suffering from wounds gained by defending this country's freedom or who had suffered by going to the aid of another country.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

            My daughter has a rare cancer, and I wish we could all sue TEPCO. Fukushima has destroyed all life in the Northern hemisphere and this story has to be told. And all the nuclear reactors whether in Japan or in the US or in Europe or elsewhere are all ticking time bombs.

            • kalidances

              Anne my blessings to you in regard to your daughter's health. (((HUGS))) Please Google Mykayla Comstock and see if her story will be in any way helpful. Also look into ayurveda for dietary help.

              Thank you for being a caring mother.


              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                I should have died when I had cancer in 1989. But I lived. I know more about cancer prevention than you do. Unfortunately, my daughter doesn't take my advice.

                • kalidances

                  Well kids will be kids 🙂 Every cancer patient is different. All people handle illness in different ways.

            • NoNukes NoNukes


              I am so sorry to hear about your daughter. Maybe she should sue TEPCO.

              I don't remember when we've seen so many sock puppets on this website, typing away to Tepco's content. Those who believe they are subtle, and their obvious aliases urshered in for the occasion.

              I take it that this lawsuit by soldiers is the last thing that Tepco wants, as indicated by the squealing of their employees. Thanks for your work with them, and clarification that GE is a Japanese company now. GE is really no more than a hedge fund, "a gigantic hedge fund that that also happens to make refrigerators…"


          • PurpleRain PurpleRain

            Very, very true Anne. I just want to agree and let others know this too!

      • kalidances

        Nedlifromvermont were you just disrespectful to a woman whose child is seriously sick from the Fukushima event? I imagine your friends and family are often ashamed of you. You need to think about your actions.

        @Deey5926 do not lose hope. A lot of people are working very hard right now to make sure that the military service people get their chance to be heard. Go here and send an email. One of the activists will get back to you:

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        GE Teaming with Toshiba to Bring FlexEfficiency* Power Plant Technology into Japan and Other Key Asian Countries
        September 27, 2011
        • New Alliance Builds upon 80 Years of Cooperation between the Two Companies
        • GE and Toshiba Agree to Mutually Promote the New Combined-Cycle Technology
        • GE’s Newest Technology a Strong Fit for Asia’s Power Needs
        Yukiya Amano (天野 之弥 Amano Yukiya?, born 9 May 1947) is the current Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), having been elected to the position in July 2009. Amano previously served as a Japanese diplomat and international civil servant for the United Nations and its subdivisions.
        Amano was born in Kanagawa Prefecture, Japan, in 1947.

        • razzz razzz

          If we hadn't gone down the nuclear power generating path, the world could have been concentrating on how to string a power line around the globe so we could always be feeding a grid with sunlight converted to electric power.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

            “Russia's first nuclear power plant, and the first in the world to produce electricity, was the 5 MWe Obninsk reactor, in 1954. Russia's first two commercial-scale nuclear power plants started up in 1963-64, then in 1971-73 the first of today's production models were commissioned. By the mid 1980s Russia had 25 power reactors in operation, but the nuclear industry was beset by problems. The Chernobyl accident led to a resolution of these, as outlined in the Appendix….”

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

          “…In 1957, Norman Cousins, editor of the Saturday Review, and other nuclear critics organized the National Committee for a SANE Nuclear Policy (SANE), a group that placed antinuclear ads in newspapers, held public meetings and demonstrations, initiated petition drives, and soon had 25,000 members. In 1957 SANE began pressing for a halt to weapons testing, with the help of prominent Americans like child-care expert Dr. Benjamin Spock….”

    • many moons

      I see so many young people eagar to enter the arm forces, beleiving they will be trained, have a career, get a good salary etc.
      Shortly after they join they are looking for a way out, and that won't happen easily…
      I think you should let these individuals who think that the arm forces is an opportunity to know what your son is going through.

      If there were no soldiers there would be far fewer wars.
      If America was really in trouble we would have a draft….these wars that are being waged are wrong and they hurt everyone, including the soldiers.

      • PurpleRain PurpleRain

        Having a good job – career, being trained, etc… it's the same story they told and promised to each generation before us… afterall, no one wants to spend their life working for McDonalds or Walmart and …what else is there, except for the military…

        • many moons

          At Walmart they might have a future!

          These days the armed forces personel are exposed to many things without the proper protection and little if no regard to the safety and well being of the workers (sailors). If Walmart did that you might at least win a suit to take care/be able to live with your injuries.

    • Sickputer

      I am sure Ned meant no disrespect. Savaging him for his GE remark is not necessary… We know GE has helped foster the radiation health mess the entire world faces.

      "One of the Sailors is my child and if I could only tell you stories that was told to me I would"

      SP: What prevents you from from retelling information your child (an adult to the rest of us) might know about conditions off Fukushima? I assume some details about ship electronics and procedures may be off limits.

      Maybe your child could get an early release from the Navy if things are not working out. My cousin did in the Vietnam era after being stuck in a 140 degree laundry room for months and getting sick.

      Please check into chelation and vitamin therapy for your child. Certain supplements can help.

      • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

        Hi S.P.; I apologize to you and the rest of the ENE crew for getting a bit crazy on the keyboard,but your post reminded me of the reason I get all discombobulated regarding this particular issue & topic! I'm not gonna go into another angry rant & let it get the best of me again!(for now) I'll start with the present. Imagine how I felt when I'd learned that a really great kid who'd grown up with my 20 yr. old daughter announced he'd enlisted in the Navy with a $100,000 sign-on bonus right out of High School after scoring 94 on the ASVAB test?-I congratulated him while hiding the worrisome thoughts I felt inside.A few weeks went by and he announced he'd allowed THEM to convince him to accept the rating(MOS)of Nuclear Engineering!!(?)-I was stunned!-then he got his orders after getting a Top Secret security clearance-you guessed it-TO JAPAN!!!OMG!,my heart sank as I thought about "derailing" his deployment even if I had to imprison him until he was AWOL & "stuck Stateside" awaiting court-martial?!!~I gave him advice & forwarded links from ENE,etc. before he left in November and hope it doesn't get him in trouble but his "handlers" told him to earmark LARGE amounts of cash to purchase food AND water from outside of Japan and they gave "friendly advice" that it "wasn't a good time to seek a "Japanese" mate with intentions of having children"!(?)That "advice"came from a USN "lifer"who KNOWS what's REALLY up!-I feel like I'm "mourning" his loss now… 🙁

        • kalidances

          No worries we lose our tempers quite regularly around here. We take shifts to make it interesting for everyone(I'm joking). Oh my goodness I am so sorry about your neighbor. I remember when I was waiting for friends to get from Japan to here every day I would check the weather,JMA, wind patterns or the cams. Then I was freaking out over every cough or sore throat. Just keep collecting data and helping others. It will distract you.

          Does he know about the current lawsuit? is there a way for him to get the information? Maybe one of his family members can post it on FB.

          • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

            @kalidances; Thanks for the kind words & excusing my nuke-imposed psychosis(I should SUE!)lol..all joking aside I really hate the implications this has for the kid who has been best friends with my daughter for a LONG time!-But I also feel as though he could become a very important ally to our cause and I STRONGLY suspect the more personal friends or family with credentials like those I mentioned above could mean an early "HEADS UP" for us if you know what I mean!(?) 😉 I hope there's always gonna be someone who (if they HAVE to be in Japan)would break security protocol to warn downwinder's of a BAD storm blowing our way next-not saying anyone in particular would of course but I'm guessing some high-level security clearance personnel may have devised some sort of alternative & secure method of alerting loved ones in harm's way especially if they have the details & stats if for example SFP#4 came down hard followed by the rest of the NPP & the rest of the dominoes that come down & hitch rides on the ocean currents & jetstream. It'd be nice to know if something else blows up again in any event since we now know it doesn't all fall into the sea or get "filtered" & caught by the Cascade & Rocky Mountain ranges either?!!…damn..I'm doing it again..sigh..I have been wound up so damned tight and when I'm not helping my wife through bad seizures or lymphodema pain I'm bombarded with bad news!(?)! I'm gonna give ENE & my keyboard a "break"though,lol! 🙂 TTYL

            • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

              Johnny Blade just being aware what you going tru hurts , but i think its awesome to see how you keep your fire going here. Thanks

        • PurpleRain PurpleRain

          94 on the ASVAB? Gee…. to be a mere writer/photographer in the Army I had to have an ASVAB score of 110 miniumum.

    • natano natano

      Deecan you let us in on a few? We deserve to know but i would guess that they saw thousands of people floating among the debris. I should say bodies but they were people just moments before and in a world that is orchestrated by lies i have to be honest to drive the point home. Lies make people passive and apathetic and allow them to accept the incremental shifts into insanity. And that's what we're dealing with here folks is insanity. We all know it but no one wants to acknowledge it. The sooner we do, the sooner this problem is solved. It's not too late. what we really need is passive nuclear power.

      • PurpleRain PurpleRain

        I was thinking the same thing…that there must have been bodies in that water… and I want to send a cyber pat on the back to Johnny Blade …and others… my Uncle served in the Navy during Vietnam, my Dad did too and even as a yound (and stupid) 17 year-old, I joined the Army myself and put in more than 25 years… and it's only NOW that I realize just how very naive I have been and others probably are too. As a young person in service to our Country… we believe we are doing the right and honorable work ..all that Duty, Honor, Country… idealism that comes with being young …and being indistructable…and … all of us wanting to be heros in some way or another…. There may not have been a Walmart or a MacDonalds around when my Uncle and my Dad joined the service… but they wanted to do right..and they gave 100 %… and it's the same with the young people today who believe what they are told and taught in school too! (so sad…this is just so sad and so hard for sooo many people).

    • PurpleRain PurpleRain

      I can sense the pain and the outrage or maybe fear in your tone about your child. My thoughts and well wishes are sent out to you with this post. However, you said that we have no clue..and that you've been told things…and that your child has seen things. Do you remember the campaign that HIV/AIDS people had done several years back ..they made T-shirts and stuff (or some group did) that basically said Silence = Death. However you do it, in whatever outlet or blog or forum or editorial or whatever…. anonymously if need be, and/or thru other nuclear whistleblowers or radio hosts or whatnot… Please. Share the stories. Share the truth that must told and made known to the rest of us, (as much as possible, please). Each VOICE is IMPORTANT. Just think on this, ok.

    • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

      I am sorry, for everyone, but the reality is this isn't much more than 7th grade science.

      All the players knew what would happen, they are nuclear engineers. No electricity = no water flow = no cooling = meltdown.

      The CTBTO picked up releases nearly right away, they alerted the NRC, who got involved. (nrc actually, at times, occurred to be running the show)

      Even the young men and women on this ship should have been questioning..

      The industry has spent billions on pr.. no more duck and cover drills as they were causing whole generations to be anti-nuke power..

      We deregulated media, and allowed this industry to gloss over the reality of it's DNA mutating, toxic, invisible death spewing, "power" plants.

      This is not a surprise outcome, this was 1+1=2.

      No disrespect meant to anyone, and I have compassion for us all..especially those that were just "following orders", but how long can we continue to follow orders that based on common sense will maim, mutate, or Kill us..

      The problem is that "common sense" is no longer applicable because the details of this industry have been hidden from the general public, and the common folk no longer have any idea of it's true insidious reality.

      If the taxpayers were clued in, at all, they would understand the shear enormity of tax dollars being sucked into this pyramid ponzi scheme, they would riot in the streets..

      Among others, Thank you Bart Simpson and family..

  • bwoodfield bwoodfield

    My concern is that the US Gov will sue, or a class action suit will occur against Tepco and possibly causing the corporation to fold. This would leave the damaged NP plants sitting there for someone else to clean up with no one monitoring them. Much like the Chernobyl NPP sat for years with nothing being done on it. As it is the cost of the Chernobyl with the clean-up, the original sarcophagus, and the new sarcophagus, all running will over a billion dollars so far, the cost of cleaning up all of Japan's NPP messes is going to be astronomical.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      Sorry, TEPCO doesn't have the contract to clean up Fukushima Daiichi:

      “…As the government in Japan continues to lead the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster response, many people in Japan say the government’s efforts are misguided. Critics of the government and nuclear experts say the government’s billion dollars in cleanup contracts and hundreds of untrained workers are just wasting money. The Japanese leaders have awarded billions to the very same companies who built the flawed reactors that failed at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant — companies who nuclear experts say know nothing about reducing radioactive pollution.
      “The Japanese government has awarded the first cleanup contracts to three of Japan’s largest construction companies — Taisei Corporation, Obayashi, and Kajima — which are responsible for building 45 of the 54 Japanese nuclear plants including the failed reactors at Fukushima Daiichi that were responsible for the whole disaster. Critics say the government shouldn’t be awarding these hefty contracts to the companies that profited off of unstable nuclear reactors in the first place….”

    • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

      US sue Tepco??? Not a chance. Tepco is now mostly owned by Japanese tax payers.. or Japan.

      US fed Japan nuke for power, now imagine all the dirty little secrets that would come out in discovery phase..

      Not a chance.

  • dosdos dosdos

    The Japanese didn't lie to the US Navy to get them to come into dangerous waters, the lied to cover their liability, like any corporation.

    • WindorSolarPlease

      Agree dosdos, Their motto is: Admit to Nothing.
      If you don't admit to it, then it must not be true.. sarc..

  • deey5926

    they were lied too I know my child knows the truth he was there!!

    • WindorSolarPlease

      Sorry deey5926, I believe they were lied to by many.
      They all have the high tech detectors. I believe they all knew immediately or very soon after.

  • Sickputer

    The prevailing winds in March (every year) favors blowing from Japan to the east (US direction).

    The decision for the three ship group to stay east of Japan was a mistake. I would rate it a negligent mistake and would have advised them to stay far away from Fukushima Daiichi. They obviously haven't learned how to coordinate meteorology reports with accident reports from nuclear disasters.

    Courtmartials may never occur at this late date (and the nucleocrats want it quickly forgotten) but I would bet some naval careers of officers will be in the proverbial toilet.

    • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

      It was not a mistake.. There was an article link that showed the ship was sent to offer aid PLUS MONITOR RADIATION from downwind.

      They were sent directly into the radiation plume, on purpose.

  • ShutItAllDown

    We will know that when this "top conservative website" suddenly clams up, that they've received a phone call from GE.

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    who owns westinghouse
    “Westinghouse Electric Company LLC is owned by the Toshiba Group. The headquarters for the company are in the state of Pennsylvania.”

    • jec jec

      Not to worry..Toshiba is trying to sell off part of Westinghouse..wonder why???

    • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

      I don't think it is that simple, too many divisions.. for a history of the corporation, and some dots to connect, check this out..

      scroll down and read the history.. everybody is related.. kinda like the south in the days of the Hatfields and McCoys..CBS, BNFL, Siemens, infinity, viacom, etc, etc, they are all there…

      Also #jec, not "trying" to sell off, but Shaw is exercising it's opton to sale..

      "In September, 2011, Toshiba was reported to be in talks to acquire the Shaw stake[14] and both companies confirmed the story soon thereafter. Toshiba is paying US$1.6 Bn for the 20% stake under a Shaw-owned option, Shaw CEO James Bernhard said. Shaw said it was the 50% rise in the yen on its yen-denominated debt over five years which led it to exercise its sale option. The option was part of the 2006 purchase terms. Toshiba said it was open to, and considering, having other partners invest in the business. The purchase, expected to close in January 2013, will bring Toshiba's share in the company to 87%"

      • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

        In July 2005 BNFL confirmed it planned to sell Westinghouse, then estimated to be worth $1.8bn (£1bn). However the bid attracted interest from several companies, including Toshiba, General Electric and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and when the Financial Times reported on January 23, 2006 that Toshiba had won the bid, it valued the company's offer at $5bn (£2.8bn). On February 6, 2006 Toshiba confirmed it was buying Westinghouse Electric Company for $5.4bn and announced it would sell a minority stake to investors. [9] The sale surprised many industry experts who questioned the wisdom of BNFL selling one of the world's largest producers of nuclear reactors shortly before the market for nuclear power was expected to grow substantially; China, the United States and the United Kingdom were all expected to invest heavily in nuclear power.[10]
        …Finally, the record of UK governments building nuclear plants had been a commercial disaster.[11]
        The acquisition of Westinghouse Electric Company for $5.4 billion was completed on October 16, 2006, with Toshiba obtaining a 77% share and partners The Shaw Group a 20% share and Ishikawajima-Harima Heavy Industries Co. Ltd. a 3% share.[12] On 13 August 2007 Toshiba sold 10% to Kazatomprom, the national uranium company for the Republic of Kazakhstan, for US$540 million. Kazatomprom's ownership is entirely passive, with no voting or veto rights or even a presence on the board of directors.[13]"

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    I guess you don't live near the uranium mine in Colorado owned by Canada, or the uranium mine in Wyoming owned by Russia. Our wonderful politicians only care about money and are allowing other countries to destroy the environment in the US. And what about AREVA building the MOX facility at Savannah River? The French people are sick of Areva. And how about the nuclear waste shipped from Canada to Colorado for Colorado to store? There is much more empty land in Canada for them to store their own nuclear waste. And how about the nuclear waste shipped from Germany to be incinerated in Kentucky or Tennessee? Our politicians and/or corporations love killing off Americans.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      German radioactive waste OK'd for Tennessee
      “OAK RIDGE, Tenn. — Federal authorities have approved licenses allowing up to 1,000 tons of low-level radioactive waste from Germany to be brought to Oak Ridge, Tennessee, for incineration….”

      • PurpleRain PurpleRain

        well, the only positive thing that I can think of right now to say is … at least Tennessee is where the KKK started. So… no real loss, (and yes, I know that sounds cruel and rude and horrible, but … sometimes the truth hurts). btw. I'm female, white and an Army vet!

    • WindorSolarPlease

      It's all about money anne .. If they can't stop the layers coming in eventually, US will be a waste land of radiation just from Fukushima alone.

      Don't worry anne, they have the money to protect themselves. Some have shelters that connect underground, there are those who can go to the Southern Equator and they may even own special shelters there.

  • WindorSolarPlease

    I think there are many lies from Corporations and from many governments. After all they are the ones with high tech instruments. There is much blame to go around.
    The public and service people are the ones that are lied to. Just my opinion.

    • Radio VicFromOregon

      Agreed WSP, but, we, the public, keep paying them to lie to us. Perhaps it's time people start choosing different energy companies and different political parties than the main ones. Start CUBs, community utility boards, or buy green energy from the companies we currently use. Write them letters demanding alternatives. Protest outside their offices. Chain ourselves to their security fences. We only have energy alternatives and environmental laws because people did just these things for themselves and future generations. Waiting will not make it happen. Acting will.

      • WindorSolarPlease

        VicFromOregon, I'm all for doing anything that is peaceful and lawfully.

        However, I think things are already in motion and not much will cause them to sweat.

        They will go where it's safer they have places, and we will be suck where it isn't. I haven't even seen any place being built for the public to bunker down in.

        I honestly don't know what this world will be like even in 5 years from now. We have Fukushima, sinkholes, fraking, nuclear plants, solar flares, what's happening in the Middle East, and so on and so on.

        Then, I'm surprised we are still here with all they have done already.

        • Radio VicFromOregon

          Oh! WSP, how overwhelming the odds are! I try to live by the old adage – "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees". Maybe too Comanche for many folks, and hey! Comanches didn't do so well, did they? Didn't even get a reservation cuz they were pains in the ass to Uncle Sam. So, i know how big the wheel is that turns – it wipes out entire peoples, including part of my own. Like you, i'm not advocating fighting, though. I'm saying that the big wheel doesn't turn without us. You and i and everyone who so much as puts gas in their car or turns on a light pushes that big wheel. That's power. Maybe not the big power, the "control" power that has us all feeling helpless. But, without us, there are no rich people. No industries. No corporations. No governments. None of these can or have ever existed without the public. Even dictators require the public, to sustain them. So, collectively, we have considerable power. I think we have much more power and influence than most people believe. But, just like whistleblowers will tell us, there is a price for taking action, for making the right choice. Most of us don't want to pay that price, lose what we have. Of course not. So, most of us wait. And, our waiting is no longer neutral. We are part of the problem or part of the solution. Our waiting is all the power that corporations and bad governments need.

          • WindorSolarPlease

            I don't think they believe they need us, maybe a few to do the work. I think some think we are nothing more than parasites.

            Rock, paper, scissors, big wheel can crush little wheel.
            Our time might be already cut short.

      • PurpleRain PurpleRain

        I think if we/people had any choice at all…we would make a choice to buy green – type company's to supply us with what we need, but we dont have that choice at all. Hell…. I wish I could just buy some type of backyard solar panel that would let me collect energy and run my tv.. off of it for a couple of hours after I come home from work… but I don't even have that option. I rent, I don't own… I can't get any water heater… or even any damn decent back yard light from the almost useless solar-lights that are sold at Big Lots store…so what can any of us do on an individual basis ???

        • richard richard

          This thread is for suggestions on alternate energy.

          Also, incrementally apply solar. Although it is expensive at this time. Some maths I did a while ago suggested it would take 10 years for a solar power system to have paid for itself in an average family home. So, that is a while till it starts to become 'free', not including maintenance.

        • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

          There are MANY things each one of us can do on a daily basis..

          Eat less meat
          Use less water
          switch to renewable energy sources
          Use less energy
          Buy more energy efficient vehicles
          Buy more energy efficient appliances

          Recycle more
          Walk more
          Bike more

          Vote Green Party; (they take no corporate money)

          Nothing can stop the people, once they decide they want something.

          Tell others…

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    GE, Hitachi win U.S. approval for laser-tech uranium plant
    Sep 25, 2012
    “The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission issued a license on Tuesday to a partnership between General Electric Co. and Japan's Hitachi Ltd to build and run a uranium enrichment plant using laser technology.
    “The license, which came after three years of safety and environmental reviews, allows GE and Hitachi to use laser enrichment technology which could produce half the amount of enriched uranium the U.S. needs each year for its nuclear reactors, according to the Energy Information Administration…”

    • kalidances

      They are sociopaths Anne. Or maybe pure textbook power addicts/narcissists. The body count doesn't really register for them.

      • WindorSolarPlease

        Agree kalidances, they don't care, as long as it's not them.
        Over abundance of people, which means workers are always replaceable.

  • kalidances

    If any one knows of religious,spiritual,veteran, psychological counseling or crisis center workers who want to volunteer time now would be a good time to reach out to them. The more bilingual people the better. As more people get sick in both countries it will be important to help keep people calm.

  • kalidances

    The real fun is going to begin when it comes time for someone to pay for the massive lawsuits. No one will want to take responsibility and when someone finally is declared responsible, whatever country it is will be instantly bankrupt. The radiation levels were been contained so emergency workers, relief workers, military members, and flight attendants all over the world will have to get checked; especially the UNSCEAR members.

    • WindorSolarPlease

      I agree No one will want to take responsibility and if someone does they and everything will be poof.

      I'm still waiting to hear that all the Gulf people and others got compensated. Not going to happen.

      • kalidances

        I think in this particular circumstance Japan had better figure something out and fast before people start feeling like they have nothing to lose.

        The governments had better remember that the whole Marie Antoinette situation was not that long ago in terms of global history.

        It's all fun and games until the citizens revolt.

        • WindorSolarPlease

          I really wish they could figure out something. Fukushima is a done deal, can't go back.

          However, all the other plants in the world could be closed, but so far they haven't.

          • Anthony Anthony

            What we are ultimately up against is a belief and active propaganda that what has and is emanating from FUKU is harmless to humans. The argument becomes more uphill when they (and Joe Average on the street) can point to Fuku and say, "Well its been going for 2 years and nobody's died." I'm not saying that's right, but I am saying that is how it is.

  • kalidances

    *Sorry the radiation levels have never been contained and of course there is so ETA for containment at present.

  • deey5926

    just to let everyone know one of the sailors passed away last friday with cancer she was the one with the baby that was born with birth defects. A very SAD day!!!!!!!!!!

    • Three Eleven Eleven Three Eleven Eleven

      That's awful news. Are you talking about Kim Gieseking? My sincerest condolences. Very sad.

    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      Can you list a link, Deey5926? There's nothing on the net. Looking for more medical info. Thanks.

  • deey5926