Top Japan Nuke Expert Admits: “Nuclear experts have remained silent” after Fukushima — Blames “remorse over not having been able to prevent accident”

Published: September 21st, 2012 at 7:17 pm ET
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(Subscription Only) Title: Atomic engineers feel less confident about nuke safety
Source: Asahi Shimbun
Date: Sept 22, 2012

After watching one of the world’s worst nuclear disasters in their own backyard, members of the Atomic Energy Society of Japan [AESJ], a pro-nuclear association of nuclear engineers, are not surprisingly feeling much less confident about the safety of their industry.

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“Nuclear experts have remained silent because of remorse over not having been able to prevent the accident,” said AESJ President Shigeo Nomura. “We want to recover trust by thorough investigations into the disaster and activities in Fukushima (Prefecture).”

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Not all Japanese nuclear experts have remained silent. Here’s a brief sample:

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Published: September 21st, 2012 at 7:17 pm ET
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38 comments to Top Japan Nuke Expert Admits: “Nuclear experts have remained silent” after Fukushima — Blames “remorse over not having been able to prevent accident”

  • dka

    to regain trust, these engineers should start by not keeping silent and criticize the current lies of the authorities.
    They are doing this and they will never ever be trustable.

    • CaptD CaptD

      Agreed!

      When they start to join the demonstrations, then I'll start to believe them!

      Otherwise this is just more Pro Nuclear PR…

      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it."
        – Martin Luther King, Jr.

        "And he who accepts a paycheck from evil is guiltier than all that."
        – Time Is Short

        Almost all murderers are sorry when they get caught.

  • CaptD CaptD

    It only took a year and a half… What a Nuclear Waste!

    Now that the Japanese Gov't. has flip flopped and is now pushing Nuclear again, I guess the word is out that their Professionals can express sadness…

    Who questions our Elected Leader's motivation and or sanity?

    At some point, one must ask themselves when is gross denial,
    … Best left for a trained mental profession­al?

    Case in Point, Japan is now suffering with a Trillion Dollar Nuclear Eco-Disaster, yet some commenting consider that it, in effect, is "no big deal":

    Polluted Ocean, N☢ Problem, it will get better after a while….
    Polluted Fields, N☢ Problem, they can remove the upper layer
    Polluted Air, N☢ Problem, they can wear paper masks for a while
    Polluted Food, N☢ Problem, they can mix the good to dilute the bad
    Polluted Homes, N☢ Problem, they can power wash them clean
    Polluted Schools. N☢ Problem, they can clean them
    Polluted Cities, N☢ Problem, they can return soon…

    With answers like these from too many Leaders & Nuclear Profession­als, perhaps you would consider a followup article, asking this question:

    “What exactly would it take for you to STOP supporting­, all land based Nuclear Reactors like Germany is now doing and end this nuclear nightmare ASAP?”

    • PavewayIII PavewayIII

      "…Now that the Japanese Gov't. has flip flopped and is now pushing Nuclear again…"

      I don't recall that happening, CaptD. The Japanese Government never flip-flopped. Its an election year – you heard some isolated voices from within, not the consensus of the Japanese government. The leaders have been, are now, and continue to be committed to nuclear power and weponization. They just shut their mouths for a few months about restarts to let the public simmer down. Demonstrations were unusual to the Japanese, but didn't change anything.

      "…At some point, one must ask themselves when is gross denial…"

      I implore you to consider that the Japanese leaders are NOT in denial. Psychopaths mimic and respond to empathy, but are wholly incapable of feeling anything like that themselves. They truly, honestly and completely feel that it IS no big deal.

      “…What exactly would it take for you to STOP supporting­, all land based Nuclear Reactors like Germany is now doing…”

      [Aside: land-based??] Talk about flip-flopping, Merkel's party had just extended licenses for their decaying reactors the previous year (just like Japan and the U.S.). She flip-flopped after Fukushima and mass German protests. But that was only for the eight oldest, junker reactors. Nine other newer ones will be humming for another decade. You have been TEPCO'ed.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13592208

    • PavewayIII PavewayIII

      I support your premise entirely. I'm merely challenging what you're seeing as cause/effect in this instance. Repeating a failed approach to changing public policy is dangerous – nobody has the luxury of time anymore.

  • CaptD CaptD

    New words to help describe what is happening at SORE (San Onofre Reactor Emergency) California and too many other places around the World:

    Nuclear Fix*
    * http://is.gd/DzSrY1

    The nuclear industries (aka nuclear fascists) policy of donating massive amounts of money to insure that all levels of Government support Nuclear Energy to protect their market share despite it's enormous environmental RISK of yet another Fukushima, instead of supporting less expensive, NON RISKY Eco Friendly Solar energy.

    and

    Nuclear Conflict of Interest**

    ** http://is.gd/WiYZpz

    A Nuclear Conflict of Interest happens when elected Leaders give their support to the Nuclear Industry because they have received some form of Nuclear Payback without disclosing it to the public.

    and

    Energy Fascism***

    *** http://is.gd/8MKQs0
    The Big Energy Companies conspiring to limit their customers choice as to the source of lower cost Energy in order to maintain their market share and cash flow at record levels.

  • CaptD CaptD

    Why don't we hear more about nuclear issue, HERE IS WHY:

    A Must read article: The Nuclear Mafia Derails Democracy in Japan
    http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=45690

    Is it also happening in the USA and other Countries because of Nuclear Payback*?

    * http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Nuclear+payback

    Those that support nuclear power because nuclear power somehow supports them; no matter what the health implications or other "costs" are for others.

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Nuclear failed. The concept doesn't work. And every nuclear scientist knows it.

    The world needs jobs. So, lets replace nuclear plants with safe non-nuclear ones.

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Nuclear Industry Engineers: Join the people! Blow your whistles! Work only to decommission all nukes! For the sake of your children, and your planet!

  • Radio VicFromOregon

    The very first courses in nuke school should be how to make a power plant safe and how to deal safely with the waste. Only then should the student proceed to learn how to make radiation and its debris. Of course, since there is no answer to these first important issues, the schools would have to shut down. These scientists have been allowed to ignore the issues of safety. It is shame that keeps them quiet. Shame.

    • patb2009

      How to make a nuclear power plant safe. Don't build it.

      • ForwardAssist ForwardAssist

        I agree the water cooled reactors are an insane design decision, but I believe that small LFTR reactors are a safe and efficient way to generate electricity responsibly.

        The story of LFTR's is a fascinating one, side tracked by the US Government. Rather then attempting to explain it all myself I'll post a condensed YT video which explains the operational parameters and features of LFTRs, and a link to the full version of the presentation.

        "LFTR in 5 Minutes",
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK367T7h6ZY

        Longer versions,
        http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0B667156FE160377

        • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

          Yea, so now any small terrorist can make small nuclear bombs or dirty bombs… No need for big ones anymore.

          The nuke industry already cannot guard against terrorists with huge plants. Now we are going to spread thousands of small nuke plants all over the planet?

          And what happens to the waste products? Instead of being concentrated in just one place, now it will be spread out ALL OVER THE WORLD, so no clean place will be left.

          • Radio VicFromOregon

            Accept the concept of dirty bombs is flawed. The explosion would disperse the radiation rather than concentrate it, thus taking decades to maim and kill any beyond those killed in the initial blast. But, the notion makes for good fear tactics. Which is why no one bothers. There is ample plutonium on the black market already.

          • ForwardAssist ForwardAssist

            Greenroad,

            With all due respect, I'm betting that you didn't even look at the presentation.

            The operating temperature, and thus the efficiency of water cooled reactors, is limited by the relatively small temperature range over which water remains in it's liquid state.

            LFTRs do not share this limitation because they are cooled by molten salt at atmospheric pressure instead of pressurized and superheated water. LFTR's operate at drastically higher temperatures than water cooled reactors, they consume their fuel much more efficiently and don't leave the nasty waste products behind.

            As far as security, a level of security within reason can be accomplished by proper facility design and staffing.

            They also have some other interesting design features. The liquid fuel design cannot meltdown and follows a natural sine wave without human intervention. The reactor core has an unrestricted drain pipe which leads to a drain tank. During operation the drain pipe is kept plugged with solidified salt kept in a solid state by a fan blowing across the drain pipe. If the site experiences a power loss, or if you just want to shut down the reactor, stopping the fan causes the salt plug to melt and the fuel to drain into the drain tank, stopping the reaction as the salt fuel core cools in the drain tank and safely solidifies.

            LFTRs represent the safest way to solve the current nuclear waste storage dilemma. Clean energy can free mankind, smaller plants end…

        • Radio VicFromOregon

          No nuclear is completely safe, but, the thorium reactor concept in theory and practice IS far, far safer than the uranium reactors in all areas. Like it or not, it will be the next generation of nuclear power. However, the makers of the heavy and light water uranium reactors and their energy sponsors are none too happy about this new competition. It breaks the existing sweetheart deals and monopolies. If all that can be achieved is this safer reactor, it is better than the mess we are now in. Sad that the solution to reliance on nuclear and the failure of nations to go green is another kind of nuclear. But, given the inaction of so many to make things right, this may be a path we have to take. At least, the premise of the thorium reactor was to make a safer reactor while the premise of the current models was to make a uranium reactor with a low probability of failure in most circumstances- it just had to be safe enough for the industry. We shall see.

          • ForwardAssist ForwardAssist

            Vic, you said it all.

            Water cooled reactors were not adopted because of any design safety considerations or high combustion efficiencies. They were adopted because they burn dirty, at relatively low and inefficient operating temperatures, leaving behind materials which can be fabricated into nuclear weapons.

            GE and the rest of the nuke industry hate the technology for several reasons. They have invested heavily in the current technology, and their business model is based heavily on the solid fuel cycle. In fact, GE built many of the world's NPPs at cost.

          • CaptD CaptD

            Thorium Is Borium and a waste of R & D money, build clean and RISK Free Solar (of all flavors) and get free energy NOW!

      • Radio VicFromOregon

        Agreed.

  • StPaulScout StPaulScout

    "“Nuclear experts have remained silent because of remorse over not having been able to prevent the accident,” "

    I'm gonna call bull-shit on this. They are remaining silent because they know how fucked everyone is, and their masters have told them to shut up and keep quiet, so therefore they will do as they are told. Remorse my ass……..

  • I wonder why they took that confidence before the accident?
    Could it be the lack of imagination and knowledge of the atom? I think that this question it is necessary to find an answer. Because again, this unjustified self-confidence, can lead to accidents again, not necessarily in the production of energy from the atom …

    • Radio VicFromOregon

      I've wondered that, too, Feliks – "this unjustified self-confidence" together with – "the lack of imagination and knowledge of the atom". An assumption that what they know is all there really is to know. That they don't need to know more. Do they really think they've figured out the universe already?

  • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

    “We want to recover trust by thorough investigations into the disaster and activities in Fukushima (Prefecture).” Well…then you can start by calling-off the media blackout…

  • Urban27

    Well the people behind this industry is laying low not just because remorse of not being able to prevent the nuclear catastrophe – But because of responsibility.
    Now they are not taking the responsibility, and therefore the people are being used as the ones to blame.
    Before the accident Fukushima was told to be the safest nuclear power plant on earth. That they told visitors.
    Now where are those people, who claimed that?
    If they do not come forth now, and admit – they are cowards, and they will let other people die and suffer.
    This is also the result of not having any insurance. No insurance company will give insurance to a nuclear plant!
    That means the insurance companies don't trust the industry, when they say it is safe.
    And without insurance no one takes the responsibility.
    This shows all nuclear power should shut down until the responsibility question is solved.
    People are not safe – if there is an accident or catastrophe.
    All we people who lives in the neighbourhood of a nuclear plant, will be the victims, as long as there are no insurances.
    Now people in Fukushima area are the ones who takes the "blow" of this catastrophe.

  • Radio VicFromOregon

    Yep to all the reasons given – shame, remorse, fear, not wanting to own up and take responsibility, power hoarding, denial, greed…

  • Andres Arce Andres Arce

    these engineers have neither power nor money, to stand against one of the largest industrial conglomerates of their country (and their *uid government in cahoots)

  • BHOLBERT

    WE NEED TO FIRE THE MEDIA FOR SUPPRESSING IMPORTANT NEWS. ITS NOT JUST NUCLEAR, SOLAR FLARES ARE THE CAUSE OF THESE EARTHQUAKE DISASTERS.FIND THE DATES OF MAJOR EARTHQUAKES THEN TYPE IN SOLAR FLARES FOR THE SAME DATE. AUG 31 SOLAR FLARE. LOOK HOW MANY 7.6 7.9 AND OVER 6.0"S THERE WERE LABOR DAY WEEKEND THERE WERE. LITTLE TO NO MEDIA COVERAGE. WHY???

  • BHOLBERT

    TYPE IN DAY,MONTH 2012 EARTHQUAKE ON GOOGLE TO GET MAJOR EARTHQUAKE LIST TO FIND THE TRUTH THE MEDIA BARELY COVERS. WHY IS THE SUN SO BRIGHT ANYMORE AND WHY IS IT WHITER THAN USUAL. EVEN BETTER WHY DO YOU HAVE TO GO TO CHATS LOOKING FOR ANSWERS THAT MEDIA DOESNT GIVE. WHY ISNT IT AN ELECTION DEBATE ON THESE THINGS.

    • Wotcha Wotcha

      Hiya BHOLBERT Can you please write your posts in Upper & Lower case as all caps is considered to be shouting and is not good to read. Many thanks.

  • jec jec

    Remorse? To gain the "trust back" all the AESJ nuke experts have to do is (1) stop the ongoing leaking of the Fukushima radiation into the environment. THEN they can:
    (2) CURE all exposed people (children and adults) from any damage(DNA or tissue) from the radiation from Fukushima;
    (3) fully financially re-emburse all the people affected by the radiation income/property/living conditions/stress;
    (4) finally REMOVE/DECONTAMINATE back to pre-Fukushima accident levels all soil/air/water world wide!
    Thats all they have to do to gain "trust" back…(sarcasm). Let us know when this is done, if in our or our childrens lifespans!

    Prayer will help as much, if not more, as the feeling of remorse expressed by their "nuclear experts." AESJ, go FIX the problem of spewing radiation all over Japan and the rest of the worlds Oceans, Air and Land!