Top Ft. Calhoun nuke plant official: To get to a disaster level floodwater would have to rise 3.5 feet above current levels — No one has a model of what river is going to do, says NWS hydrologist

Published: June 18th, 2011 at 12:43 pm ET
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OPPD Says Fort Calhoun Station Rumors Untrue, WOWT, June 17, 2011:

There has been a lot of rumors recently concerning flooding. OPPD, which operates the Fort Calhoun Nuclear Power Station just north of Omaha, addressed some of those rumors saying they are not factual. […]

[Fort Calhoun Nuclear Power Plant’s chief nuclear officer, Dave Bannister] said for the plant to get to a disaster level, floodwater would have to rise three and a half feet above where it stands now. […]

Floodwaters might hit KC by midweek, Kansas City Star, June 17, 2011:

The endless complexities have made prediction a tough task, said Ross Wolford, a hydrologist working long days for the National Weather Service in order to try to predict the river’s flow.

“We don’t have, nor does the Corps or anyone else have, a hydraulic model of what the [Missouri] river’s going to do,” Wolford said. “There’s a lot of art in the way we estimate.”

Published: June 18th, 2011 at 12:43 pm ET
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293 comments to Top Ft. Calhoun nuke plant official: To get to a disaster level floodwater would have to rise 3.5 feet above current levels — No one has a model of what river is going to do, says NWS hydrologist

  • stormcatbriner1957

    Lots of ear less bunnies coming to the bunny pens in bayous around New Orleans in 2012!

    Party On…..

    • tony wilson

      complete rubbish….

      all the bunnies would have drowned before genetic mutation kicks in.
      have you tried staying afloat in a tidal liquid sludge of plutonium and strontium..

  • SamsuLevin

    French news regarding France and Germanys agreement to help Greece – this is on the top. Other important news near by the same I already posted.
    Nothing about Nebraskas nuclear plant.
    Found some interesting news explaining that France has detected radioactive material about 1000 Becquerel per kilo in green tea from Japan.
    And for me, living in Germany it was really amusing to read in headlines in French newspaper article of todays statement HOW CONCERNED THEY ARE ABOUT NUKE-FREE GERMANY!
    I´m concerned about this blackout!
    I´m now trying to find something regarding this COVERUP and I promise to send any link I´ll find.
    Hope I´ll be able to sleep tonight. This media blackout is more frightening than anything else before.

    • Whoopie Whoopie

      Posted your REPORT at HP. I’m proud of you! This BLACKOUT is a worry, big time!
      IS IT WORLD WIDE? IT MIGHT BE….GEEEEZ

    • Anthony Anthony

      Don’t let it get to you SamsuLevin. I enjoy reading your posts and ideas. Despite the *blackout* we manage to collaborate with our minds here everyday. In a subtle way I have learned maybe I don’t need the MSM anymore like I used to believe. It would be inspirational if this group could do something that gives the msm a run for its money …. ooops forgot we already do that! :()

      Its a lot to process and gets a little overly heavy some days. Lets see what tomorrow brings us.

      Take `er easy.

  • gonefission gonefission

    Anyone here thats familiar w\twitter, other social networks. All it would take is a few convincing messages to reach Donald Trump. Someone like him not afraid to go heads up with our administration he hates obama…..Any celeb. where the hell is everyone ????

    • Whoopie Whoopie

      I’ve often wondered why such a FAILURE of Stars speaking out. I mean REALLY. WHERE IS EVERYONE!?!?!?!?!?

      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        It’s easy, you see…..to do a show…make a movie..and run back to Hollywood.
        Most feel they did their bit… when they came out in mass.. early on for the BP oil spill situ.
        It’s applause and then home….
        Unless.. you are like Costner… who made nice money selling his oil clean-up machines to BP.(purchased and shelved for silence)
        Gee…thanks Kevin.

    • Anthony Anthony

      Gonefission – how about Ventura?

      • gonefission gonefission

        Ventura? …. Ace Ventura? or Cali? :\
        Not to be a smart ass but what about it ? lol
        I musta missed somethin? … My location is Mile High’ish if thats what u are askn.

        • Anthony Anthony

          LOL!! I was thinking about Jesse Ventura to go after the MSM and Govt like the pit bull he seems to be. This just seems right up his alley!

          • gonefission gonefission

            Oh…lol well the pet detective could probably do a better job than the corps of engineers….I wonder what % of the corps of engineers are ‘On the job trainin”?

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Well…ummmm…..well..
    Here is what the clowns that run our country are up to.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43443532/ns/politics-white_house

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    A short patriot rant..
    ….1%$^^#&^%#@&&***…f*ing morons!!

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    Tokyo Electric to Build US Nuclear Plants:
    The no-BS info on Japan’s disastrous nuclear operators, March 16, 2011
    http://www­.gregpalas­t.com/no-b­s-info-on-­japan-nucl­earobama-i­nvites-tok­yo-electri­c-to-build­-us-nukes-­with-taxpa­yer-funds/

  • Rosie

    STING,BONO, BRAD, ANGELINA, BOB GELDORF, CHRIS MARTIN, GWYNNETH WHERE ARE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU?

    • WindorSolarPlease

      Hi Rosie,

      I have no clue where they are. At least we have Whoopie and Rosie in the house ::wink-wink::

      The question is: Where are our Officials and the News Media?

  • SamsuLevin

    I found an article on the top news on greenpeacegermany.de dated yesterday and explaining how concerned they are. That´s all in German news. Some German, Italian and French blogs spreading the news about Obamas order to media blackout, but nothing useful in the press.
    I discoverd some small articles in ilgiornale in italian and a french location paper both repeating that the npp is surrounded from the flood but the owners and governement assured that there´ll be no risk at all.
    I´ll found some bigger article in danish newspaper, should be the same, but I understood nothing – sorry.
    There´s a small notice in dutch morning news.
    I´ll have to point out that all these news are from the last 3 hours and it´s nearly 3 o´clock in the morning.
    Maybe it will change in the following hours due to circumstances which I´m sure I´ll not like at all.
    BE BLESSED!
     

    • Obama Orders News Black Out Regarding Nebraska Nuclear Incidents …
      Obama Orders News Black Out Regarding Nebraska Nuclear Incidents, page 1 … that President Obama has silenced the mainstream media from …

      http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread717895/pg1

      search
      http://search.avg.com/?d=4b7237c1&v=7.5.30.4&i=23&tp=tb&q=Obamas%20order%20to%20media%20blackout&lng=en-US

      • US Orders News Blackout Over Crippled Nebraska Nuclear Plant
        June 16, 2011
        By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

        A shocking report prepared by Russia’s Federal Atomic Energy Agency (FAAE) on information provided to them by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) states that the Obama regime has ordered a “total and complete” news blackout relating to any information regarding the near catastrophic meltdown of the Fort Calhoun Nuclear Power Plant [photo top left] located in Nebraska.

        According to this report, the Fort Calhoun Nuclear Plant suffered a “catastrophic loss of cooling” to one of its idle spent fuel rod pools on 7 June after this plant was deluged with water caused by the historic flooding of the Missouri River which resulted in a fire causing the Federal Aviation Agency (FAA) to issue a “no-fly ban” over the area.
        Located about 20 minutes outside downtown Omaha, the largest city in Nebraska, the Fort Calhoun Nuclear…
        http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1493.htm

        scrole down 1/4 page

      • SamsuLevin

        OH! It´s not the first time your President handles important news like EHEC-bacteries and isolates them from the rest of the world.

      • jwfuki

        Speaking of blackouts, I was watching R1 a few moments ago, and there was a crane that appeared to be swinging a wrecking ball, and then the live feed went blank.

        Hmmmmmm.

        • jwfuki

          Oh, they’re switching power today.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

          TEPCO’s live cam is back up now, you can see the crane and someone working. The JNN/TBS feed is hard to see. Looked like there was a second crane on the sea side of #2, but it seemed to be going away.

    • She says:
      The Japanese government are the first to send aid overseas, but when it comes to their own people they are blind.’

      : (

    • Mark

      Rosie, thanks for the post! Daily Mail is old school mainstream right?
      This quote from your article got my attention
      “When one actor, Taro Yamamoto, joined an anti-nuclear protest, he lost his part in a popular soap opera. Yamamoto’s ‘crime’ was to say that schoolchildren in Fukushima should not be subjected to the same annual radiation dose (20 microsieverts per year) as nuclear power workers in Europe.”

      So sad that this is the world we live in. Japan is a US sponsored democratic society. Hey I love the American people but despise the American government. My Canadian gov no better, Peace

      • Rosie

        Mark: Yes! More commonly known as the Daily Fail or the Daily Stale. It’s not complete dross though and occasionally will take on something of real human interest as opposed to say the Times. In this case I think they’ve come up trumps given that it’s been ignored in London up until now. Whether this will be the beginning of a dripfeed of reporting remains to be seen. I agree – it’s very sad and hard to accept that it’s happened in our lifetimes. It’s the domino effect and chaos that’s hard to get my head round.

  • WindorSolarPlease

    Lets’ just say Fort Calhoun Nuclear Power Plant’s is another Fukushima Disaster. What States would be effected?

    Australia is sounding better and better to me, don’t I wish.

  • WhatNow

    An earthquake that strong and a tsunami that high WEREN’T supposed to happen at Fukushima. Now we’re being told a flood that high won’t happen on the Missouri River. Reminds me of the old Mark Twain saying, “History doesn’t repeat itself, but it rhymes.”

  • SamsuLevin

    http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Kazakhstans-Uranium-Industry-Could-Lose-Its-Luster.html
    We knew it already, but that´s an interesting article: MONEY RULES THE WORLD…. and the atomic lobby is TOP MONEY MAKER!

  • INFRA-RED FILM

    Anyone know if infra-red film could be used at Calhoun or another “infamous” nuclear plant (whose name I can’t mention because I’m on the wrong thread and xdrfox will scream at me) for tracking unusual activity beyond the normal visual range of human beings.

    I’m thinking of the, let’s call it “extra-physical” activity caught on infra-red film by NASA during the famous Tether Incident.

    Also, experiments by that kiwi fellow (like me, je suis kiwi aussi) who did experiments with infrared film and discovered some very unusual things, beyond the normal visual ken of mere humoidal creatures such as us.

    Trevor Constable
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0QDhAQdcZM&playnext=1&list=PL77AE8ADD3680AD93

    • Basically, I want to see what the aliens are up to.

      *Pu239 is restrained by large muscular men in white coats who treat him roughly and thrust him vigorously into an overly-comfortable fully-locked sarcophagus watched round the clock by people with guns and uncongenial attitudes*

    • will scream at me ???
      WHAT ???

  • Darth

    Sorcha Faal… Internet Hoax Queen Courtesy of David Booth…

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread304918/pg1

    • BlackRain

      DISINFORMATION AND IGNORANCE
      IT TAKES BOTH TO TANGO

      You have integrity, Darth. I’ve learned one thing about internet: disinformation has sex appeal. The longer I live, the more I believe that lies (and money) make the world go round.

      Surely you have noticed a trend in the evolution of comments at this website.

      You have noticed, have you not, the ones who departed, the ones who stayed?

      Disinformation wins hearts and minds — I’m writing a book about it (in my mind). I dislike disinformation, though I “know” disinformation has existed as long as humankind.

      A lie repeated 100 times becomes a truth these days. In other words, disinformation is an effective tool.

      Information wars provide a glimpse of human nature at its very best and worst. The circulation of information has become a form of war, and it looks ugly to me.

      Who are the leaders at this website, the people with clout, the ones who steer the conversations, the ones who set the agendas? The answers to those questions define the character of this website. I publish here less frequently now: I’ve answered the foregoing questions.

      Anyhow, I thank you, Darth. The quality of your character is splendid, in my opinion. You are one of the few among the many, I’m sorry to say.

      • BlackRain

        My comments above regard comments made at this website — only the comments. Long live enenews.com and the dedicated people who run this website.

      • Darth

        Your comment says a lot about your integrity.

        It’s been my life long belief that the truth helps one make the best decisions – not hype.

        The ongoing situation is very serious in my opinion. That is why I participate in this forum in order to try to stay informed.

        But like all things today – it is buyer beware!

        Thanks for you honest reaction.

        • BlackRain

          Maybe you’re right, Darth, but I wrote a warning about Sorcha Fall one day before you did.

          I hate disinformation. I agree with every word you wrote — and I guess the meaning of my own words was too watered down to be clear.

          This is my last post ever here(see round of applause below)…

          Just FOR YOU DARTH:

          I’ve been a reporter — mainstream press — an engineer, an educator, Arctic specialist, bum. In my opinion disinformation is most effective when people are uninformed (“ignorant” means the same as “uninformed,” to me).

          I’ve read your comments about HAARP and suchlike. I like the way you seek — and share — the facts. You seem to favor facts to rumor, like me.

          Anyhow, I wish you luck. You taught me something today: I need to write unambiguously, especially when I’m afraid to do just that.

          Writing the news was easy for me: solid sources and facts. Here I wrote editorial news, as if my opinion mattered, which it doesn’t (and I know it).

          Good on ya, Darth.

          • Darth

            @BlackRain,

            So sad that you move on.

            Thanks for sharing something of your background. I would like to reciprocate but need to remain anynomous.

            I have noticed by long experience that “What you sow is eventually what you reap.” Like this many gain the “whole world” and yet lose their soul in the process.

            Journey well, BlackRain – may the Force be with you.

    • lokay5 lokay5

      And her equally fictitious brother T-Faal

  • WindorSolarPlease

    Two Nebraska Nuclear Plants Partially Submerged by Missouri Floodwaters

    http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2011/06/two-nebraska-nuclear-plants-partially-submerged-by-missouri-floodwaters/

  • ZombiePlanet ZombiePlanet

    Social breakdown is preempted by, rude, violent behavior, disregarding common decency.

    Interesting how Japan citizens are standing up.

    A good monitor for those in the US, to foresee whats next. Just watch the markers.

    http://www.radiationnetwork.com/AlaskaHawaii.htm

  • gonefission gonefission

    Would they have issued NO FLY zone not just to keep camera’s from filming the situation but also to prevent aircraft from becoming contaminated from flying through any releases from the plant?

  • gonefission gonefission

    On radationnet. why arnt any of the readings in Japan higher? or even have some fluxuation? Makes me wonder how accurate the readings are

  • dark_horizon

    Al Qaeda must be drooling! One little grenade chucked at one of these “about to fail” damns will wipe one of them out. Then send a land tsunami that literally washes the Nuclear plant away and all the radioactive material with it. This is likely to be the biggest industrial disaster in US history and basically NO ONE is reporting on it!! If you live downstream, get your families out NOW!

  • Mark

    Al Qaeda is a hoax proof being that no grenade will be tossed any breach of dam will be due to US Army Corps miscalculations

  • DannieJ DannieJ

    17:36 19/6 … Lots of steam at Fukushima on both Tepco and TBS live feeds. Seems to be coming from the ground, possibly the common fuel storage.

  • Fall out man!

    Saw the Hawaii Rad map go from 31 to 35 then back to 29. Not sure how significant that is, or how often these things change, but at least it looks like the geiger counter there is working. Maybe a bit of fallout just got blown through?

  • Fall out man!

    Actually I see it moved around again, 35 then back to 24, then up to 36. Must be quite a bit of variation in what is blowing by there at the moment.
    http://www.radiationnetwork.com/AlaskaHawaii.htm

  • milk and cheese milk and cheese

    Supposedly, it’s only a problem if readings go over 60. I don’t know whether to believe this or not.

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Hasn’t the NRC learned anything from Fukushima?
    Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station
    “On April 21, 2011, the NRC renewed the operating licenses for Palo Verde’s three reactors, extending their service lives from forty to sixty years.”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palo_Verde_Nuclear_Generating_Station
    I looked this up because the radiation levels on http://radiationnetwork.com/
    are always elevated there. But now there is no longer a reading on radiationnetwork.com

  • jump-ball jump-ball

    Something new going on here at the Brownville-COOPER nuclear flood level gauge: after rising 3 feet in the 4 days to Saturday, water is up another foot in 6 hours, the forecast is obviously now wrong and will have to be raised:

    http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=oax&gage=bron1&view=1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1

    COOPER nuclear officials are the ones who 4 days ago said, in an oversimplified and misleading statement, that if the flood level rises 6.5 more feet they will have to shut down the reactor, so the 4 foot rise in 4 days leaves them 2.5 more feet, and if the current rate of rise continues, less than 2 days.

    But they’ll have more trouble than just ‘shutting down’ the reactor; they neglected to mention that fuel rods don’t ‘shut down’, and that loss of electrical power and cooling, shutdown or not, is the prelude to disaster.

    What these guys do and don’t say is the message, and the time has come to ‘shoot’ the messenger.

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    Nuclear Cheerleaders are HERE this morning.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/18/mini-nuclear-reactors-tva-us_n_879790.html
    God they make me sick.

    • jump-ball jump-ball

      Me too, so maybe leave them over THERE at HP.

      Cheers W.

      • Whoopie Whoopie

        Yep. It’s too early for me. Couldn’t sleep – woke up in cold sweat. God what a fucking nightmare this all is…waking up to IT every morning. Lord help us ALL.

        • BetaFlare

          He told us what it is going to be. What the cross-nailing bloodsuckers would do:

          7. The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
          8. And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
          9. And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
          10. And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
          11. And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
          12. And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.
          13. And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

  • maaa

    QUOTE “To get to a disaster level floodwater would have to rise 3.5 feet above current levels” So how much has it risen?

  • maaa

    I found something. Its 44.02 now.
    45.5 Approximate level at which Cooper Nuclear Station will shut down the plant.
    44 Water nears the top of the federal levees on both sides of the river.

  • milk and cheese milk and cheese

    You can’t shut down a plant quickly.
    The waters CAN rise quickly.
    There was a sudden spike this morning. Why were these plants not shut down a week ago? It’s not as if you couldn’t see this coming.
    I’d sit in the dark if the alternative was to have the house glow by itself.

  • maaa

    Its at Its 44.16 now 8.00am. 45.5 Approximate level at which Cooper Nuclear Station will shut down the plant. Let the countdown begin.
    http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=oax&gage=bron1&view=1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1

  • maaa

    CONGRATS A RECORD HAS BEEN BROKEN! Its 44.35 at 8.30am.

  • StillJill StillJill

    That’s IT BetaFlare!

    What a precious time to be found fit to fight, eh? 🙂

    • BetaFlare

      What is precious is thet soon the time has passed away…

      “And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven =NUCLEAR shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. “

  • maaa

    Going to bed now. I’m gonna make a guess of 46.5 when i wake up.

  • Au Au

    Some of us are in the process of preparing for evacuation. It would be very helpful if people that have the time to keep abreast of the Omaha situation, if they could make a new post so we can just scroll down to the bottom and also if you could sum up the links so we don’t have to look at links and maps. Time crunch here and many of us are scrolling up and down the thread looking for info. Thanks heaps!

    • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

      Au…! RUN…NOW!…they would love to catch
      everybody at like 2:30 in the AM, trying to jump up and clog the bridges, clog the intersections.
      Get out nOW!

  • jwfuki

    Just came across this today.

    Hope it’s not a re-post.

    YouTube – ‪Important Update : Fort Calhoun, NE Nuclear Power Plant Flooding Up-Close 6/16/2011‬‏

  • byron byron

    45.18 at 7:30 Central time.

  • byron byron

    45.24 at 8:00 Central