Top Official: Over 60 million Japanese irradiated by Fukushima — Nuclear Expert: 50,000 sq. miles of Japan highly contaminated… Many millions need to be evacuated… Gov’t has decided to sacrifice them, it’s a serious crime — TV: More than 70% of country contaminated by radiation (VIDEOS)

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Interview with nuclear engineer Hiroaki Koide (translation by Prof. Robert Stolz, transcription by Akiko Anson), published Mar 8, 2016 (emphasis added): [Radioactive] material has been dispersed, contaminating Tohoku, Kanto [Tokyo area], and western Japan… [The law says] that absolutely nothing may be removed from a radioactive management area in which the levels exceed 40,000 Becquerels per square meter… [H]ow much area has been contaminated beyond 40,000 Bq/m2… that answer is 140,000 km^2 [54,054 square miles]… Indeed, while centered on Fukushima, parts of Chiba and Tokyo have also been contaminated. The number of people living in what must be called a radiation-controlled area is in the millions, and could exceed ten million… I believe the government has the responsibility to evacuate these entire communities… the government decided to leave them exposed to the real danger of radiation. In my view, Fukushima should be declared inhabitable… but if that were to be done, it would likely bankrupt the countryThey’ve decided to sacrifice people… In my view, this is a serious crime committed by Japan’s ruling elite… [F]undamentally, people must not be forced to live in contaminated areas… First must come complete evacuation… [W]hen it comes to radiation… “removal of contaminants” is impossible… This stuff contaminates everything.

Naoto Kan, former Prime Minister of Japan, Apr 11, 2016 (at 2:15 in): The molten material broke through the pressure vessel and accumulated low down in the containment. Now what would have happened if this molten material had escaped from the containment?… A radius of 250 kilometers — which includes the city of Tokyo — anyone living in this area, if you count them up it comes to 50 million or 40% of the Japanese population, and they would all have had to be evacuated. As we know from Chernobyl, not just a couple of weeks, but 30 years or 40 years — it would have virtually meant the end of Japan. [Note: Many nuclear experts believe the molten fuel did in fact escape from the containment] Half the population was subject to radiation [Japan Population: 127 million]. That’s something that could just be imagined, for instance the event of losing a major war.

Arirang (Gov’t-funded Korean TV network), ‘Fukushima and Its Aftermath’, Mar 16, 2016 (at 6:45 in) — Prof. Kim Ik-Jung, Medical College at Dongguk Univ.: “When you look at the contamination map, about 70% of Japan is contaminated by radiation. That means that 70% of Japan’s agricultural and marine products are contaminated.”… According to PNAS, one of the five major scientific journals, over 70% of the land in Japan is contaminated by radiation.

Watch: Prime Minister Kan | Arirang’s Fukushima Special

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  • Sol Man

    Some politician said to just sell the contaminated products to her country, the U.S., but remember that they are not good for consumption.

  • demise demise

    Japan is defunct as a country. They already are in financial turmoil with no way out and are completely out of control. No Olympics in Tokyo. You would be a fool to compete in that kind of polluted environment.

    • Cisco Cisco

      Hundreds of millions of gallons of untreated sewage flows daily into the Guanabara Bay in Rio de Janeiro, where all sorts of athletes competing in water sports will be exposed.

      The Olympic Committee is all about the spectacle and the money. What's a few sick athletes in the whole scheme of things; right now it's the same for Abe and the oligarchy.

      Japan is toast. There will be no Olympics in 2020. There will be no Japan in 2020 as we know it; and the rest of us won't be far behind in the race to our rapid extinction.

      • We Not They Finally

        Yes. Of course. Except that it's been five years since 3-11 and only four years to go until 2020. Why will anyone be any more forthcoming in the next four years than they have been in the last five?

        Japan, of course, is already "toast," even in terms of its future genomes. We just don't see that TODAY. (Well, they fix medical stats. Maybe we WOULD see it if they didn't.) So what will it take for the Japanese to call off the Tokyo Olympics due to throwing the athletes into deadly danger? The lies have worked so far. What will it take to change that?

        • tinfoilhatbrian tinfoilhatbrian

          The forthcoming thing that will be obvious to more people is the amount of death and sickness that they will be witnessing at an increasing rate from now until eternity. With more and more exposure with every passing day. The worst is yet to come!

    • PlowboyGrownUp

      2014 "'Tokyo should no longer be inhabited,' Japanese doctor warns residents regarding radiation"
      "
      Dr. Mita notes that, for the past 10 years, he had been working to persuade the municipal government of Tokyo to stock iodine pills to distribute to the population in the case of a nuclear accident. Dr. Mita's concern had been that an earthquake might trigger a meltdown at the Hamaoka nuclear power plant. All of his requests were rejected, however, under the excuse that there was no reason to expect such an accident."
      http://www.naturalnews.com/046112_radiation_Fukushima_Tokyo.html

  • As Fukushima Last Straw Attack on the Northern Ecosystem Rolls Out, 5% of Challenged Village Tries to Kill Themselves.
    Canadian Village Sees Suicide Spike 1:27

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  • yellowrain

    well I hope this lets the horse out of the barn. Fuel for thought…. We are the only country with acceptable limits high enough to accept the contaminated food out of Japan. I propose as a favor to Japan we are already eating this food. We do not test for the contamination therefore we won't find any contamination. For those who don't know how high our wonderful friends in DC raised the limits I believe it went from 100 bq's per kg. to 1500 bq's per kg or 15 fold increase. Correct me if I'm wrong please. I live close to one of the 40 year old BWR clunkers and plan on leaving sooner rather then later. I have gotten my acceptable dose. Had my first cancer by 40. Don't walk run from these things. peace & good health

  • We were at the Murres

    now we are at the "indigenous humans"

    • I will continue to argue – all is not lost – but big freaking changes have to be made…. food security, water security, health security

      • I feel like we are all under continual attack now.

        • PurpleRain PurpleRain

          I wonder how many cases of so-called Zika virus might be occurring in Japan? I'm not at all convinced about blaming the mosquito.

        • TimV

          Stock,
          Initially it was like a "attack ".
          Now it is just unstoppable pollution
          I think I will book a return trip for
          about 2 billion years from now and
          1 billion before the sun goes red giant.
          I hope it will be good weather.

      • But, but, but….

        No One Died! How The Nuclear Industry Gets Away With Genocide, Psychotic Behavior, Nuclear Bombs, DU Poisoning And Nuclear Plant Accidents, Explained By Dr. Helen Caldicott MD
        http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2015/04/no-one-died-how-nuclear-industry-gets.html

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          wow…after you get done reading Goodhearts fixation on hormesis as the reason the nuclear industry claims no harm, you should know the real reason. Why this hugely important truth eludes Goodheart, after having pointed it out so many times, is a mystery! A cognitive impasse?

          Studies showing various types of responses…stress response, adaptive response, and more, loosely put under the umbrella term hormesis have NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING to do with the IAEA or World Health Association claiming how little harm is done. Furthermore, no health or dose regulations are based on hormesis.

          "Radiation hormesis has not been accepted by either the United States National Research Council, or the National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements (a body commissioned by the United States Congress) and the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Ionizing Radiation (UNSCEAR) all agree that radiation hormesis is not clearly shown, nor clearly the rule for radiation doses"

          Thus Goodheart seems to stand with a few outliers who are neurotically paranoid that hormesis allows the nuclear cartel to justify its poisons. Show us one regulation or claim from the industry or government based on hormesis.

          So what is the real reason that the media, our forefront scientists and their institutions, and the united nations committees all say there is almost no harm from Chernobyl and Fukushima and man made radiation generally?

          Somebody please explain it, or…

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            please explain it, or Im gonna puke and have seizures. OK, lets not go THAT far…I need some kind of tranquilizing elixer, a nervine and antispasmodic along with a euphoriant

            Whats the deal Dr Goodheart?

          • oldster

            CodeShutdown "So what is the real reason that the media, our forefront scientists and their institutions, and the united nations committees all say there is almost no harm from Chernobyl and Fukushima and man made radiation generally?"

            Following is my mere scratching the surface, Code, and by the way thanks for pictures, so beautiful! is creation. :

            a) The mass media: They lie, they are stupid, they are CIA, they are corporate, they are disproportionately owned by the chosen people, they are craven cowards, they are in the knee-jerk habit of lying and self-censoring and posturing, they interview mostly safe 'experts', they censor, they must keep the bs bubble inflated; they don't want to be fired, they don't want to be murdered.

            Here's an example of what happens to journalists who step out of line, unless you're a Michael Hastings and qualify to get assassinated. After the NATO (US) destruction of Yugoslavia a book was written about the media complicity in that atrocity: Peter Brock's "Media Cleansing: Dirty Reporting. When the book was launched, all of three reporters showed up, and one risked writing a sympathetic report on it, and got fired.

            Here's another example: After 9/11, I contacted a well known and often gutsy Canadian newspaper journalist, and asked if there was any possibility that his employer, the largest newspaper chain in Canada, would allow realistic reporting on 9/11. The response was: it's so big, scary, we can't change the way…

            • oldster

              … the world is.

              b) The scientists: Important imo to distinguish between institutional science that is subject to political and military and corporate controls, and which mass media features, and independent scientists, who can easily be ignored or marginalized or attacked if they stray from the conventional. So for example, Dr. Tim Mousseau has been denigrated for his mild mannered truth telling on the basis of genuine truth seeking, re Chernobyl and Fukushima.

              An interesting case, Code, that you may be familiar with is that of Dr. Arpad Pusztai, who in the 1990s did some research into some GMO food's impact on health. He was a prestigious experienced scientist who assumed that GMO was ok, but found to his surprise and concern some serious health threats in his experiments. When he rather diffidently reported on his findings in a tv interview, he was duly attacked, fired, ordered to self-censor, etc. Through his refusal to remain silent, and I believe the Lancet published his findings, the world got to know about the issue, though a great attempt was made to denigrate his findings, methods, etc

              Or more succinctly, truth is now the enemy of the PTB.

              • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                It is quite a complicated deceitful and very profitable web that they have woven.

                We all appear to be the prey now trapped in their web. 🙁

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                Thanks Oldster for the depthy picture.

                What you say is poignant and pithy.

                There is one simpler answer to the subject at hand..i.e. what justifies nuclear. Its the ICRP model! This is the standard scientific model and its even the law. Scientists everywhere believe it. And if you calculate projected deaths, or use the model to compare Background to cesium radiation, you get the message of Woods Hole, NOAA, World Health Association etc.

                Those scientists dont have to lie…probably the majority believe in the ICRP model. Blinded by science! This is the real reason scientists are beffudled.

                Sure, there is media blackout and conspiracy and all that stuff, but the actual basis is the use of this model. Thats why I fight it. If the ICRP model was overturned with a new one based on updated science, nuclear could not exist.

                The ICRP risk model says cesium137 is only twice as deadly as the same amount of radiation from potassium. Sound like a broken record? Im the only one who thinks its the pivotal point. GMI

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  Its as if mainstream science is a big truck barreling down the highway and everybody is paralyzed from thinking with those headlights in their eyes.

                  Check how much more radiation is from natural sources compared to Fukushima. Its true, Fukushima is far worse than shown, but that doesnt clinch the anti nuclear argument. We live on a radioactive planet but only nuclear fallout caused the silent spring. Not because of its quantity, but its qualities.

                  http://www.whoi.edu/cms/images/oceanus/radioactivity_213855.jpeg

                  Most anti nukers are incapable of explaining away this graphic from Woods Hole. They make up all kinds of goofy ideas, blindly, but confidently and with satisfaction.

                  When you try to explain, they attack you and call you pro nuke hormesis pushing shill. The others are silent, not interested, but not sure what to make of it all. Wow, thanks obe….just goes to show you that scientific knowledge is no substitute for rational intuitively correct free minded un-indoctrinated common sense…

                  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                    😉 You get it Code!

                    Stay the course.

                    You are a very powerful Jedi my friend!

                    I only wish we had a couple billion more…

                    So it looks like you have a couple billion to teach.

                    Use the Force!

                  • penny penny

                    Here, Code, take three of these, and call me in the morning.

                    http://llrc.org/
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTHSYemA1U8
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EOeRb-ddqc

                    I can't follow the shifting sands under this debate. Before, everyone was very, very concerned about, and raging against, the hormesis propaganda (against which i rather fancy my "burning house" analogy – though I doubt I'm the first one to have used it).

                    The ICRP model is obviously wrong, for the very reasons Code states here; does anyone deny that? The above links all make that case very strongly.

                    As for the battle, I don't understand the point of duking it out here, amongst ourselves, when it is the public that must be swayed (and most are opposed to nuclear now, so there's something). I get that patience can be stretched to the breaking point, but we are supposed to be on the same side here. There are, however, more productive approaches to the issue.

                    Imo, the scientists who buy the IRCP model have a vested interest in doing so, and won't change. To reach them, you'd need a huuuge pile of cash. As for the rest, I'll re-beat the dead horse drum….

                    • penny penny

                      How to address the WHO, WHOI etc. argument for the ICRP model:

                      First response: it's Not Even Wrong (in the sense of Wolfgang Pauli and Peter Woit). In a rational world, it would be used as a training film for spotting the pernicious influence of Edward Bernays on modern thought… er, thoughtlessness.

                      Second response: To engage in their debate is to sit down to a refined game of 3-D chess on the backstretch of the track at Churchill Downs. Oh sure, you may cleverly capture a bishop or two, but once the real game is over you'll be naught but a bloody, mangled mess without having known what hit you. Don't worry, if I survive the first race I'll send a stable boy around to shovel up the remains. Can we use an open casket, as a warning to the apathetic masses, because they and not the nuclear shells (not a typo: they are empty human shells devoid of humanity), are the ones who must be reached.

                      The first challenge is to get people's attention, the next is to hold it. Let the pseudo-scientists cheat at chess; my concern is not to let any more wildlife get mowed down by the Horses of the Apocalypse. Which means holding the reins… er, setting the terms of the debate. (Have I beaten the horse metaphor beyond death? Neigh!) 🙂

                    • penny penny

                      Note that I'm not suggesting people not carry on the fight to convince others that nuclear must go! Rather, that there is more than enough proof – PROOF! – of the insanity of nuclear available at, among other places, thenuclearproctologist.org and Busby's sites, and from the video Heart posted yesterday ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EOeRb-ddqc ), and in documentaries about Chernobyl and DU damage in Iraq and more.

                      Shouldn't we be getting out there in the community, showing such films to people who've never heard of the ICRP or even of Fukushima? Shouldn't we be helping to document the ongoing devastation, and getting that information out? Well, that's what I'm going to focus on in the future. I know I have very little time left, and I intend to use it well.

                      People in general are living in a Lie of Unimaginable Proportions. They are happy there. They don't care about facts, numbers, laws… but maybe pictures more horrific than their favorite video game can make them pay attention?

                      All just my opinion. All due respect to others' opinions.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      This website gets 1,000,000 hits a month from people around the globe.

                      Each person has different gifts and can decide how best to make a difference.

                      Many journalists read this website and spread information in articles which reach many people. There is never too much education no matter what the venue is and different venues reach different people.

                    • penny penny

                      I forgot to mention RadChick and Ms. Milky the Clown as prima sources of information.

                    • penny penny

                      …and of course ENEnews, but anyone reading this thread presumably already knows that… sigh.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      penny, those are three good links. But dont the three links "engage in their debate … a refined game of 3-D chess on the backstretch of the track at Churchill Downs"?

                      I fully admit that few people are interested in understanding why the continually running public view video by NOAA is wrong. People arent interested in knowing if there is background radiation or how much. A also admit that trying to explain why the NOAA video is in error is a futile waste of time, even when the audience is an anti nuclear blog. Yet we DID cover the issues, we did make the cogent counter argument…actually the scientists like Busby did it, we just re delivered it with a few more bits and pieces. The 3d chess game was won…nobody noticed except Sancho Panza

                  • oldster

                    Indefatigable truth seeker Joyce Riley, host of the Power Hour radio show, often says: "The only winning move is not to play their game."

                    The ICRP model is the rotten game that they cling to and play.

                    Integrity and common sense and carefully observing the real world and faithfully reporting one's observations etc are another 'game' entirely.

                  • Code, you make the pro nuclear argument seem rational with that picture. Do you agree with them that Fukushima is only a small fraction of Chernobyl? The pro nuclear claim is that Fukushima is only 10 percent of Chernobyl, which you seem to agree with now.

                    The picture you have linked to more than once to make your claim, shows 2,400 open air nuclear tests as having more total radiation released than either Chernobyl or Fukushima, which is completely, patently false and wrong.

                    Be careful what you use for your evidence or you may hang yourself with it, and put yourself in the wrong camp.

                    Five Years After 3/11, How Much Fukushima Nuclear Disaster Radiation Was Released Into Ocean, Air, Groundwater, Storage Tanks, Compared To Hiroshima Bombs, And Comparison To Chernobyl
                    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/02/total-fukushima-radiation-released-into.html

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Dr Goodheart…dont forget that in your article you use the sources that I researched, among others. IF you think that my data and conclusions are faulty, then your article becomes suspect as well?

                      You didnt read in my post above that I said the estimate of Fukushima release from Woods Hole was wrong? Yours is wrong too by the way. Its not so easy to find accurate release estimates.

                      But you miss the point. Did you know that the nuclear industry uses the dispersion factor of common household flies to justify and prove that no harm is done? Its true, every science or media article or UN report has at its root the dilution factor from the common house fly. You should write articles about this, showing prominently on google search so that the public becomes aware of the falsehood underpinning the nuclear cartel. Common house flies…those lying deceitful bastards!

                      Your hormesis fixation is a little like house flies. The nuclear cartel doesnt use hormesis or house flies to justify its existence. Publishing highly visible articles as if they do doesnt help.

                      But thats not the end of it. If you dont understand the real issue you can do yet more harm to the anti nuclear cause.

                      Not grasping the NOAA/ Woods Hole science for what it is, then inventing cockamamie counter arguments only helps the nuke cartel. That is what you do, sorry. I like many of your articles though

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      and what are the cockamamie arguments that play into the nuclear industry?

                      Lumping together then villainizing background, especially primordial radiation along with nuclear fallout doesnt help, it harms the anti nuke cause. This is in fact exactly what the ICRP model (standard in use sievert system) does. They do it, you do it, PJ does it.

                      Over and over you argue against me on this, calling me a hormesis pushing pro nuker. It just wierd man. It wouldnt have had to go on and on like this. The issue was self evident, easy to grasp. A few posts was enough!

                      Here it is again in a nutshell; the ocean is (and always was, contrary to your assertions) filled with radiation. Buesseler isnt lying or wrong about it. We live on a radioactive planet. This radioactivity is much more than what is released by man.
                      But that primordial radioactivity didnt make Tokyo uninhabitable or kill the seastars and sea lions. Only nuclear fallout makes a silent spring. Yet theres more primordial radioactivity on earth….hhmmmm, perplexing eh? Well man must have made that primordial stuff then. That was your fight for the longest time, and still exists in your articles. Whoa, does that ever miss the mark! It plays into the hands of the nuke cartel…but you and praise jesus CANT SEE IT! Blinded by what exactly?

                      It doesnt stop there…in your attempt to "fight Codes Hormesis" you repeatedly villainize K-40 by confusing it with electrolyte dangers. Goofy man! and not helpful…

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Did you miss it when I said you would be far better off forgetting potassium? Focus on fallout. Write simple pieces for simple minds with an emotional hook.

                      PJ (and AGR by extension) uses the argonne labs paper to "prove" the danger of primordial potassium in order to fight the hormesis pushing code. That same paper spells out the official position; primordial potassium radiation is only half as deadly as C-137. But theres SO MUCH MORE OF IT! How come it didnt create genomic instability, dead zones?

                      Make no mistake; sievert per sievert, potassium is officially, scientifically the bigger danger than C-137! Hormesis has NOTHING to do with that science

                      Well, we explored pretty exhaustively all the known reasons why background is different from fallout and why the two shouldnt be lumped together. Be assured, its EASY to lump them, its DIFFICULT to unlump them.

                      we live on a radioactive planet, the danger is in the dose

                      Thats a lock tight unarguable sentence!

                      Well I unlocked it for you. Now some of the points I raised are even used by PJ to try and fight the hormesis pushing code…like the specific activity.

                      I know, I know. Im Don Quixote, fighting windmills. Penny proves this. And its true, most people dont have the type of mind to want to grasp the underpinning issue, the essence or the science.

                      So, stick with one liners. Radiation Kills! Its killing our babies! Radiation = Bad! Solar = Good! With luck, they wont have gone to Woods Hole or…

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Brilliant and great advice..all radiation is not the same. 🙂

                      Synthetic Manmade Radiation is not suppose to be here on this Planet that we call Earth!

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Products of fission are the deadly addition

                    • penny penny

                      There are certainly worse fictional characters that one could be, than Don Quixote, though I'd choose the Black Stallion over him any day.

                      I can't and won't take credit for having proven anything (or blame, as the case may be), but I will make this humble suggestion: channel your inner DQ and see the bright side: post the Busby links when arguing this point, rather than the WHOI disinformation. That way, people who come here to learn, learn, without getting all confused and thinking the case is lost before being argued. Like I said, I know the arguments against the ICRP model are more than valid, but the starting point ought to be defined by the home team. Or if you prefer, the windmills ought not to be the ones booby-trapped by the opposition.

                      🙂

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Penny, but many folks here didnt know or believe there was all that primordial radiation. They disputed that the industry compared their becquerels to primordial becquerels. They thought the nuclear boys gave us all the radiation, and in their own Quixote battle to fight the hormesis dragon, they supported the ICRP model vigorously.

                      Most people thought there was no issue at all; simply that the nuclear cartel blasted the earth to extinction, end of story.

                      So ALL THAT is why one must show the NOAA, ICRP, Woods Hole, WHO/IAEA story.

                      One more reason; the average public will go looking to those authorities for answers. And they will find them; Radiation from nuclear is far less than background. Then when you hit the streets with your petition, they will dismiss you as an uneducated alarmist nutcase.

                      But maybe one in a million will have understood from reading ENEnews; We live on a radioactive planet, the danger is not in the dose, the danger is in nuclear fallout. That is why 70 bq/kg never hurt anyone until it came from cesium137. But warning; if you say that the anti nukers will be calling you a hormesis loving pro nuke shill, make no mistake about it. Penny wasnt followed relentlessly that way…maybe you would see it differently if so

                    • Angela_R

                      "Radiation from nuclear is far less than background."

                      Link please, Code.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      This image shows that in 2009 in the US at least half the radiation people are exposed is nuclear. Of course, since then and especially since Fukushima, nuclear radiation is much more than half of the radiation people are exposed to.

                      I just quote Dr. John Gofman, Dr. Rosalie Bertell, Dr Helen Caldicott, BEIR VII, National Academy of Sciences.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Angela…I dont know what source you would consider reliable enough. Then you have the quantity in totals and you have received doses. This dose is going to be different if you live in an exclusion zone like Tokyo!

                      We might like to know how Fukushima compares to Chernobyl and the bomb era, so that we can correct the Woods Hole graphic. Busby gives us this

                      Busby; in the worst case scenario of fukushima

                      The total immediate catastrophic release of the entire contents of the Fukushima reactors and fuel pools would not amount to more than has already been injected into the global environment by atmospheric weapon tests. The health effects of these are known and amount to some 52 million cancer deaths.

                      http://www.llrc.org/fukushima/subtopic/fukuworstcase.pdf

                      You can see here that K-40 alone in the ocean amounts to 14,000 Exa Becquerels.

                      http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/natural.htm

                      Thus you can see that the total amount of natural radiation far exceeds the amount from Fukushima Chernobyl and the bomb test era. This is reflected in the dose charts where about half comes from radon and less than 1% comes from anthropogenic sources. I am always looking for good data, so by all means bring it

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      I also quote Dr. Ernest Sternglass, and here is another wonderful book.

                      Deadly Deceit: Low-Level Radiation High-Level Cover-Up Paperback – April, 1991
                      http://www.amazon.com/Deadly-Deceit-Low-Level-Radiation-High-Level/dp/0941423565

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      OldFool June 15, 2014 at 2:19 am• Reply
                      It was probably the Cs-137. They probably died from Chernobyl Heart. The other radionuclides would probably have taken longer to kill them. As I have said before many times – a single atom of Cs-137 is more dangerous to humans than 100,000,000 atoms of K-40. This should apply to horses too.
                      If this true, then the death of large numbers of humans in Eastern Japan will not be far in the future. In terms of biology and chemistry, there is not so much real difference in the physiology of a human or a horse, only a matter of scale.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      “…Sometimes these man-made radionuclides are compared to naturally occurring radionuclides, such as Potassium-40, which is always found in bananas and other fruits. However this is a false comparison since naturally occurring radioactive elements are very weakly radioactive. In the lab chart the radioactivity is described as the “specific activity”. Note that Potassium-40 has a specific activity of 71 ten millionths of a Curie per gram. Compare that to the 88 Curies per gram for Cesium-137. This is like comparing a stick of dynamite to an atomic bomb….”
                      http://www.ratical.org/radiation/Fukushima/images/StarrFS04.jpg
                      http://www.ratical.org/radiation/Fukushima/StevenStarr.html

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      PJ, Yes, the amount of radiation from x rays, especially cat scans rivals radon. The amount from nuclear reactors is considered to be very low, comparatively. I dont get x rays so my radiation dose is almost entirely from background. But I could still die from Fuku fallout. Thats why I highlight the difference

                      People near Fukushima and Chernobyl and other exclusion zones of course receive more radiation from nuclear plants.

                      But here is the sinister thing; our authoritative institutes, some of which you like to link to, calculate the doses in these disaster zones and still conclude that little harm will be done. This is due to their use of the ICRP dose standard. And thats the point isnt it; its not the measured or even extrapolated danger dose that counts, its the REAL danger which is mainly from internal emitters and all the fission products in who knows how many exotic forms and distributions. It aint natural!

                      Looking for becquerels is a loosing strategy. Epidemiology shows what becquerels never will.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      glad you are getting on to things like specific activity PJ. Keep going and include all the factors that differentiate mans fission nightmare products from primordial radioactivity and you will be on the verge of explaining why;

                      We live on a radioactive planet, the danger is not in the dose, but in the fallout

                    • Angela_R

                      Code @ 10.11pm
                      "Angela…I dont know what source you would consider reliable enough"

                      Code, you could start with the one you felt was reliable enough.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      “…Highly-radioactive fission products such as Cesium-137 and Strontium-90 emit 10 to 20 million times more radiation per unit volume than does Potassium-40. So which one of these would you rather have in your bananas?…
                      “Cesium-137 is 10 million times more radioactive than Potassium-40.
                      “2 grams of cesium-137 has more radioactivity than 2 tons of potassium-40
                      http://www.ratical.org/radiation/Fukushima/images/StarrFS05.jpg
                      http://www.ratical.org/radiation/Fukushima/StevenStarr.html

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Angela, you didnt like the two links I gave you? One from Busby! It takes me a heck of a long time to go through my links. There is one that I have posted before that goes through the numbers. The conclusion was, no matter what we do, man made radiation will never be as bad as background. This astounding conclusion is pervasive in the nuclear sciences. The reason is because they adhere to bad dose coefficients. They also assume a risk for background but dont in fact know what it is. Thus the comparison of background to man made is invalid and why I keep mentioning it…

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      “…But humans evolved in an environment that contained naturally occurring radiation. So why is radiation so hazardous to us? The answer to this has to do with the type of radiation. Radon, which was always around (see below), is known as alpha radiation. The particles cannot travel very far. Strontium 90, which is a man-made radiation, is a beta particle. It can travel far. So how does this affect us? Our bones are hollow inside, they have a space for the bone marrow. This is the place where the white blood cells, which are key operatives in the immune system, are made. Nature did a brilliant design here because the bone protected the delicate bone marrow from the then-prevalent type of alpha-radiation. Nature did not foresee that humans would come up with a type of radiation that did not suit its original design. Because beta particles can travel through bone, they are able to zap the white blood cells. What happens? We gradually have a more and more weakened Immune system. …”
                      http://www.nuclearreader.info/chapter3.html

                    • Angela_R

                      Code, in the very first line of your 2nd link @ 10.11pm, is written:

                      "Our world is radioactive and has been since it was created. Over 60 radionuclides (radioactive elements) can be found in nature,.."

                      after all the attempts I made to explain, you don't understand.

                      The failure is in the definitions.

                    • Angela_R

                      “Cesium-137 is 10 million times more radioactive than Potassium-40."

                      Well PT, that is something I might question, though possibly had it read:

                      "Cesium-137 is 10 million times more radioactive than Potassium",
                      I may not have gagged.

                    • Angela_R

                      recently I had a cat scan. I wondered whether they were using an isotope of iodine.

                      I queried whether that was the case,
                      "Oh, this is not nuclear medicine" was the reply.

                      Personally I would not wish for a radioisotope to be injected into my vein, though would not have the same aversion to an element of iodine.
                      Guess that's just me.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      Well, Angela. Here is the citation:

                      http://www.ratical.org/radiation/Fukushima/images/StarrFS05.jpg
                      http://www.ratical.org/radiation/Fukushima/StevenStarr.html

                      This is the publication of the talk given by Prof. Steven Starr at a symposium chaired by Dr. Helen Caldicott and the article written by him.

                    • Angela_R

                      Sorry PT,
                      I wasn't questioning your ability to type the text, but more the idea that
                      cesium-137 was 10 million times more radioactive than potassium-40.

                      Btw. I like both Steven Starr and Dr. Helen Caldicott.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      You can find his email posted here:
                      https://shp.missouri.edu/cls/viewProfile.php?facultyName=starr-steve

                      Write to him. I'm sure he would be happy to reply.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Angela, my mistake, I didnt mean to post that link. This one for background
                      http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/natural.htm

                      Yes, after all you have said I cant get it. I never said I was smart or anything.
                      I take it you dont like the definitions of elements radionuclides and daughter products? Im sure you must have your reasons. But why is the definition so important to you?

                      "A chemical element or element is a species of atoms having the same number of protons in their atomic nuclei "

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_element

                    • Angela_R

                      Code, you ask "why is the definition so important to you"
                      because that is what people are taught and if a definition is wrong….
                      then the premise they operate under will be incorrect.

                      You have provided the following:
                      "A chemical element or element is a species of atoms having the same number of protons in their atomic nuclei"

                      did you notice the difference? The above definition does not say that an atom/isotope is the same as an element.

                      However, I would think there would be a better word that – species

                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                  “…Nature did a brilliant design here because the bone protected the delicate bone marrow from the then-prevalent type of alpha-radiation. Nature did not foresee that humans would come up with a type of radiation that did not suit its original design. Because beta particles can travel through bone, they are able to zap the white blood cells….”
                  http://www.nuclearreader.info/chapter3.html

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                    “There is no safe amount of radiation. Even small amounts do harm.”
                    Dr. Linus Pauling
                    Nobel Prize for Chemistry, 1954
                    Nobel Peace Prize, 1962
                    “The scientific research base shows that there is no threshold exposure below which radiation can be demonstrated to be harmless.”
                    Health Risks from Exposure to
                    Low Levels of Ionizing Radiation
                    BIER VII Phase 2
                    National Academies Press 2006
                    http://www.nap.edu
                    http://www.nuclearreader.info/chapter3.html

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                    “…Since this critical discovery it has been verified that a small dose of radiation over a long time is more damaging than one larger dose. Imagine the ramifications! This means that the small amounts of radiation that are released from the everyday operation of the world's 400 nuclear plants are doing much more damage than calculated.
                    “This discovery, known as the "Petkau Effect," showed that the amounts of radiation that are legally released from nuclear power plants, combined with the leaks, spills, and accidents, are a cause of extreme damage to our health because continuous low-level exposures produce hundreds to thousands of times more free radicals than the same dose delivered at one time, as in an X ray, for example.
                    Dr. Ernest Sternglass, retired Emeritus Professor of Radiological Physics at the University of Pittsburgh and a pioneering researcher in the field of radiation health, explains in his 1978 book Secret Fallout the implications of this new understanding: ‘Doses of radiation delivered slowly and continuously over extended periods of time are hundreds of times as damaging biologically as short, high intensity exposures of the same total dose. This was made clear in 1972 by Dr. Abram Petkau who discovered that at low doses of radiation absorbed at low rates, the dominant biological damage is produced by highly toxic molecules called free radicals’
                    “The everyday releases of radioactivity by nuclear power plants has been found to cause several kinds…

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      of health damage, including premature births, congenital defects, infant mortality, mental retardation, heart ailments, arthritis, diabetes, allergies, asthma, cancer, genetic damage and chronic fatigue syndrome. It has been linked to previously unknown infectious diseases and generally weakens the immune system. Radiation shortens the life span of most organisms, according to Denham Harman in Free Radical Theory of Aging. Even at low levels, radiation may increase mutations of bacteria and viruses, as Andrei Sakharov described in his 1992 Memoirs….”
                      http://www.nuclearreader.info/chapter3.html

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                    “…Beta particles are electrons that move very quickly — that is, with a lot of energy. Beta particles travel several feet when emitted from a radioactive source, but they're blocked by most solid objects. A beta particle is about 8,000 times smaller than an alpha particle — and that's what makes them more dangerous. Their small size allows them to penetrate clothing and skin. External exposure can cause burns and tissue damage, along with other symptoms of radiation sickness. If radioactive material enters food or water supplies or is dispersed into the air, people can inhale or ingest beta particle emitters unknowingly. Internal exposure to beta particles causes much more severe symptoms than external exposure…”
                    http://science.howstuffworks.com/radiation-sickness1.htm

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      The difference between alpha particles in nature undisturbed and the nuclear age: alpha particles can now be inhaled and ingested:

                      “…Alpha particles are the least dangerous in terms of external exposure. Each particle contains a pair of neutrons and a pair of protons. They don't penetrate very deeply into the skin, if at all — in fact, clothing can stop alpha particles. Unfortunately, alpha particles can be inhaled or ingested, usually in the form of radon gas. Once ingested, alpha particles can be very dangerous. However, even then they don't typically cause radiation sickness — instead, they lead to lung cancer [source: EPA]….”
                      http://science.howstuffworks.com/radiation-sickness1.htm

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      The nuclear industry, in my experience, is very careful to continually lie about the dangers of beta particles.

                  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                    Correct! 🙂 Bingo!
                    "Nature did not foresee that humans would come up with a type of radiation that did not suit its original design."

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Rinse, Recycle and Repeat.. many times! 🙁 One Example!

                      "And those who worked in the these surroundings for 16 or more years were also three times more likely to develop cancer, it found."

                      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3536273/Doctors-nurses-handle-X-rays-THREE-times-likely-develop-cancer.html#ixzz45k44KKe4
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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      a deadly wave of short half life fission products from Chernobyl swept the world, decimating bird populations even in the U.S. The birds rebounded but every animal was left with SOME amount of damage…subclinical thyroid, reduced immunity. 300 farms as far away as Wales…10,000 farms in England had restrictions due to radiation until 2012. Even though sheep are still radioactive, the government, using the ICRP dose model, has declared them safe to eat.

                      Then the nuclear industry explained it away by saying small amounts of fission products are good for you, just like the airline industry is telling people that cosmic rays are good for spiritual vision and leaded gasoline was said to help growing children put on weight

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Too Funny!! Chuckle! 🙂

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      It is extremely misleading to say that more radiation was released during nuclear bomb testing than by Fukushima. Plutonium is much more lethal than cesium. And during atmospheric bomb testing, only 5 lbs. of plutonium was released. Fukushima is thousands of times more lethal than Chernobyl because of all the plutonium. The finely ground ground plutonium scattered with the wind and is inhaled as hot particles by billions of people.

                      There were 429 lethal doses of radiation released by Fukushima for every one of the 7.5 billion people on the earth.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      Fukushima nearly 70,000 times more than atomic bomb fallout in Japan.
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqfbdKKOgJE

                    • Five pounds??? Are you fucked PT? Again head out of rectum chick.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      There is an official report stating this information and I will post it. It have posted it before. Only 5 lbs. of plutonium was released in all the atmospheric nuclear bomb testing. It was written comparing some space accident to nuclear bomb testing.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      POTENTIAL HEALTH RISKS FROM POSTULATED ACCIDENTS INVOLVING THE Pu-238 RTG ON THE ULYSSES SOLAR EXPLORATION MISSION

                      “…Betwecn 1945 and 1976, about 26,000 curies (5 pounds of human-made 238Pu) were released into the atmosphere: 9820 curies from the atmospheric testing of plutonium bombs, and 17,000 curies from the satellite that burned up as it reentered the atmosphere in 1964. Of the total, based on samplings throughout the world, only 0.00055 pounds has been inhaled or ingested by all human beings. …”
                      https://fas.org/nuke/space/pu-ulysses.pdf

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      Most of that 5 lbs. was from a burned up satellite.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      FAS stands for Federation of American Scientists
                      https://fas.org/

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      Gundersen: A ton of plutonium was in each Fukushima reactor — Host shocked (VIDEO)
                      http://enenews.com/gundersen-a-ton-of-plutonium-was-in-each-fukushima-reactor-host-stunned-video

                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      The "Fat Man" atomic bomb that destroyed Nagasaki in 1945 used 6.2 kilograms of plutonium.

                      13.6lbs

                      http://fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/design.htm

                      😆

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      Well it is a nuclear bomb. It must become something else during the explosion.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      PJ, becquerels are the measurement of radiation. Toxicity is another point entirely. In fact I have been highlighting the difference! Do you believe you can successfully disagree with Busby? Pretty confident!

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      The paper I quoted published by the Federation of American Scientists says how much plutonium was released into the atmosphere, not how much was started from. If you look for fission products from plutonium, you will not find plutonium, but other radioactive isotopes of other elements.

                      Anyway, you have no links or scientific citations that the Federation of American Scientists is wrong. And your argument is with these scientists, not with me. However, I see no evidence of your knowledge of fission products of a plutonium bomb. Your rudeness is describing yourself, not me. It is not my fault that you are so rude.

                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      "Well it is a nuclear bomb. It must become something else during the explosion."

                      😆 Something different than these?

                      "9820 curies from the atmospheric testing of plutonium bombs"

                      Yes, this makes perfect sense. 🙁

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      9,820 curies is less than 2 lbs. And not all of the plutoniuim is used up in the fissiion reaction.

                      "Betwecn 1945 and 1976, about 26,000 curies (5 pounds of human-made 238Pu) were released into the atmosphere: 9820 curies from the atmospheric testing of plutonium bombs, and 17,000 curies from the satellite that burned up as it reentered the atmosphere in 1964…."

                      Where are your citations from peer-reviewed atomic scientists as to what happens when a plutonium bomb explodes?

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      The total alpha activity of 239Pu from aboveground nuclear testing is estimated at 7400 tera Becquerels and accounts for about 3.3 metric tons of plutonium.

                      http://www.lanl.gov/orgs/nmt/nmtdo/AQarchive/96summer/pu_environment.html

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      “The majority of plutonium isotopes are short-lived on a geological timescale,[2] though it has been argued that some natural plutonium, like the long-lived 244Pu isotope, can be found in nature.[3] This isotope has been found in lunar soil,[4] meteorites,[5] and in the Oklo natural reactor.[6] However, one paper on marine sediments for plutonium in marine sediments, atomic bomb fallout is responsible for 66% of the 239Pu and 59% 240Pu found in the English Channel, while nuclear reprocessing is responsible for the majority of the 238Pu and 241Pu present in the Earth's oceans (nuclear weapons testing is only responsible for 6.5 and 16.5% of these isotopes respectively).[7]”
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium_in_the_environment

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      The article you cited is based on this:

                      "…This article is based on "Plutonium in the Environment," LA-UR-96-1261, by John Haschke, in the Safety Series Document, "Safe Handling and Storage of Plutonium," Chapter 5, International Atomic Energy Agency, April 1996.

                      http://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/Publications/PDF/P061_scr.pdf
                      pp. 25-29

                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      "Anyway, you have no links or scientific citations that the Federation of American Scientists is wrong."

                      I did not say they are wrong, I in fact, quoted them.

                      The "Fat Man" atomic bomb that destroyed Nagasaki in 1945 used 6.2 kilograms of plutonium.

                      13.6lbs

                      ******************************************
                      http://fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/design.htm
                      ******************************************

                      😆

                      I can only surmise that after 1000's of 'bomb tests' that these things must be very efficient at 'burning up' a great amount of plutonium, tons of it. Or create something else for scientists to futz around with.

                      You really make a spectacle of yourself.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      Here is my quote. Obviously this paper is incorrect.

                      PraisingJesus
                      April 14, 2016 at 1:04 am

                      POTENTIAL HEALTH RISKS FROM POSTULATED ACCIDENTS INVOLVING THE Pu-238 RTG ON THE ULYSSES SOLAR EXPLORATION MISSION

                      “…Betwecn 1945 and 1976, about 26,000 curies (5 pounds of human-made 238Pu) were released into the atmosphere: 9820 curies from the atmospheric testing of plutonium bombs, and 17,000 curies from the satellite that burned up as it reentered the atmosphere in 1964. Of the total, based on samplings throughout the world, only 0.00055 pounds has been inhaled or ingested by all human beings. …”
                      https://fas.org/nuke/space/pu-ulysses.pdf

                      I accurately quoted the paper, but the author is wrong. I have since quoted two other papers which contradict the fas.org paper I originally quoted. I have quoted this paper many times, and no one objected before. Since when is learning and education making a spectacle. Being rude and hateful is all you know.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      K-40 in Trinity Glass formed by the Trinity Bomb
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trinityglassactivity.png
                      “Radioactivity in the trinitite glass from two different samples as measured by gamma spectroscopy on lumps of the glass. The americium content is the current content while all the other isotopes have been back calculated to shortly after the moment of detonation.”
                      from:
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium_in_the_environment
                      P.P. Parekh, T.M. Semkow, M.A. Torres, D.K. Haines, J.M. Cooper, P.M. Rosenberg and M.E. Kitto, Journal of Environmental Radioactivity, 2006, 85, 103-120
                      http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.494.5179&rep=rep1&type=pdf

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      The K-40 was not formed by the trinity bomb. If you read the paper it is naturally occurring and just got melted in. Its activity was consistent with sand in the area, so not 'activated'

                      Perhaps the plutonium discrepancy is in the isotope Pu-238 vs pu-239

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      I did read the paper and you are correct as to that author's conclusion. He gives citations to support that conclusion, and I will sometime follow up on those citations. I don't know what the other papers are measuring (the location) and what the range of K-40 is in the other papers. If they were measuring sand near a test area or other nuclear contaminated area or from a volcano, then the conclusion might not be valid. In the southwest there is lots of lava from old volcanoes.

                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      "Here is my quote. Obviously this paper is incorrect."

                      Funny, that is all I communicated from the start! Used the same source in fact.
                      And took some abuse over it. 🙁

                      You have made a lot of accusations. I invite you to review EXACTLY what I said:

                      "13.6lbs"

                      and

                      "Something different than these?"
                      "Yes, this makes perfect sense."

                      Every thing else in my 2 posts were quotes, from the source, or from you.

                      You call this rude? Here is how you respond to me:

                      "Anyway, you have no links or scientific citations that the Federation of American Scientists is wrong. And your argument is with these scientists, not with me. However, I see no evidence of your knowledge of fission products of a plutonium bomb. Your rudeness is describing yourself, not me. It is not my fault that you are so rude."

                      and

                      Where are your citations from peer-reviewed atomic scientists as to what happens when a plutonium bomb explodes?

                      and

                      "I have quoted this paper many times, and no one objected before. Since when is learning and education making a spectacle. Being rude and hateful is all you know."

                      Still keeping in mind, we are quoting the same organization.

                      Spectacle is about all I can think of.

                      You really own that. 😆

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    Praising Jesus is, in my experience a blue wallpapering maniac that swamps my posts with nearly endless stuff in a vain attempt to counter my views. But…like she pointed out, it is narcissistic of a common fool like me to care (paraphrasing). And by golly, I agree

                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      "Praising Jesus is, in my experience a blue wallpapering maniac…"

                      Alan Reid appears to be intuitively correct as well. 😉

                      Watch yourself though, keep the kryptonite and lightsaber close by.

                      "I have 3 graduate degrees including a Ph.D. and 2 bachelors' degrees And I have a lot of education since then. I now have 59 years of college education. Attacking me is ridiculous."

                      😆

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      Code, it is you that disagrees with Busby, not me.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      Cyberstalking attacks 10,116 and 10117.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      I never said that attacking me is rediculous. Calling me uneducated is rediculous. It you would read my dissertation you would see on the first that I have all the degrees I have stated I have.

                      Atacking me is rude and hateful, and it is obvious when people resort to rude, hateful attacks that they cannot argue with academic impartiality and with reason and rational information. Ad hominem attacks are not recognized as logical arguments.

                      Complaining about wallpapering is only an infantile argument to try to keep someone from quoting and citing known experts in the field.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      I am not a maniac. Please apologize for your inability to form cogent, scientific arguments. Your theses disagree with Dr. John Gofman, Beir VII, Linus Pauling, Dr. Rosalie Bertell, Dr. Alice Tewart, Dr. Chris Busby, Dr. Ernest Sternglass, and with the entire anti-Nuke community without exception.

                      If you wouldn't keep making false statements about me and my positions (which are not original, but just quoting the anti-Nuke scientists), I wouldn't have to keep answering your false charges.

                      There is no controversy as you claim that ionizing radiation is beneficial. A beta particle is a beta particle, a gamma ray is a gamma ray. And civilization is only 6,000 years old. The earth was billions of years old before human life began.

                      And where is you present day citation as to the appearance of K-40 in the ocean?

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      TYPO: ridiculous

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      I never said that: "like she pointed out, it is narcissistic of a common fool like me to care (paraphrasing)" or anything like that.

                      This is a straw argument to argue against something that someone never said.

                      You are constantly maligning me by falsely accusing me for something I never said and for positions I have never taken.

                      You are maligning Dr. Helen Caldicott when you disagree with her statements. And as well, you malign all the other scientists who support Beir VII and the American Academy of Scientists.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      So you wanna play he said she said I said you said? OK, fun!

                      I said that Busby said

                      The total immediate catastrophic release of the entire contents of the Fukushima reactors and fuel pools would not amount to more than has already been injected into the global environment by atmospheric weapon tests.

                      Then you said

                      It is extremely misleading to say that more radiation was released during nuclear bomb testing than by Fukushima

                      Then I said

                      PJ, becquerels are the measurement of radiation. Toxicity is another point entirely…do you think you can successfully disagree with Busby?

                      then you said

                      Code, it is you that disagrees with Busby, not me.

                      Now I am saying

                      See PJ, it was you that disagrees with Busby, not me. Your claim that I do is baseless.

                      And there you have it!

                      http://www.llrc.org/fukushima/subtopic/fukuworstcase.pdf

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      PJ, actually you did say something to that effect about narcissism, and it helped me, so take it as a good thing. I was caught up in my views and getting pissed at the constant counter whatever it is you do. Then you said that and I realized the truth in it.

                      I dont follow Caldicott, but she seems good. Obviously I dont malign the scientists that did the Beir report. In fact I like beer. Beer now is a saying with many subtle hints of wisdom.

                      It appears to me we are both Don Quixotes, fighting phantoms. Hows your website coming?

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      Code you say that some radiation is beneficial. Busby says that it is not beneficial and that there is no threshold or safe dose and he is including K-40 that there is no safe dose.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      I don't have my own theory about hormesis. I follow the scientists that have done the research and say there is no safe dose, that any radiation can cause someone to get cancer. I am following the consensus and the eminent scientists who have done the research and the epidemiological studies.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      “…Considering that about 50% of natural exposure of people is from radon gas, it is the leading cause of cancer patients suffering from respiratory and gastrointestinal system problems, and the highest percentage of radon that enters the human body is from drinking water and breathing. Once radon in water supplies reaches consumers, it may result in human exposure via inhalation and direct digestion. Radon in water transfers into the air during the rains, flushing toilets, washing dishes, and washing clothes. The aerosols tend to deposit in the lungs, where they release radiation that has been shown to increase the likelihood of lung cancer. Radon can also reach other body tissues through ingestion, resulting in radiation exposure to the internal organs. Ingestion of radon is believed to increase the risk of stomach cancer.[5,6] …”
                      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3814895/

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      There is a very large variation on the amount of K-40 in soils. I don't think someone can measure sand in an atomic bomb testing area and automatically assume that the sand hasn't been affected by the atomic tests.

                      “…The concentration of potassium usually ranges from 1,000 to 30,000 ppm. It is usually lower but more variable in the basaltic rock region (1,500-20,000 ppm) than in acidic (high concentration of SiO2) rock regions. For example, in granite rock, the concentration is often about 29,000 ppm….”
                      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3814895/

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      I would suspect that fracking could increase the amount of K-40, and certainly using artificial fertilizers.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

                      I don't remember saying anything about the amount of nuclear testing fallout compared with Fukushima fallout. I don't remember ever seeing figures comparing them. So it would be erroneous to say that I disagree with Busby because I don't even remember reading what he says about comparing different fallout.

                      I don't think we have even seen what all the fallout from Fukushima is. In one article I have seen from fukuleaks.com, there is a rather wide range about the possible fallout. And I don't know is the comparisons were made with just one radionuclide or 3,000 radionuclides.

                      There is a huge difference with a nuclear bomb which is over and done with in an instance and a meltdown such as Fukushima the lethality will increase the next 250,000 years. Much of Fukushima is going into the ocean now. And I don't when people were making statements. At first scientists had to make use of the information coming out of Japan and now we know that that information was inaccurate by many orders of magnitude.

      • We Not They Finally

        Obviously, there is NO security when lies and cover-ups prevail. I'm all for a massive expose, but then people will be aware that they have NO security in the face of pervasive contamination that will only get worse. Still, people should KNOW. The worst wrong is to just let the population get sick/starved or die and still say nothing.

        • Allowing people free choice to determine their fate is a fundamental right. When that is blocked for gain; a redistribution of equity is required.

          For example the parable of Timmy …

          Timmy loved tuna and would run home from school for a tuna bun. An atomic negligence occurred and the tuna became radioactive. Instead of withdrawing tuna from sale Anythingforadollar grocery chain continued to sell contaminated fish. Timmy got very sick and died of cancer.

          There is a moral in there somewhere, can you guess what it is?

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    "Top Official: Over 60 million Japanese irradiated by Fukushima — Nuclear Expert: 50,000 sq. miles of Japan highly contaminated… Many millions need to be evacuated… Gov’t has decided to sacrifice them, it’s a serious crime — TV: More than 70% of country contaminated by radiation"

    "So, everything is OK then, right?" — the brainwashed masses

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    oops.. They had little say in the "approval" and use of Nuclear Power on their islands.

    • They were assured by General Electric at that time that the technology was sound and safe, but their own employees (GE) had raised serious concerns about design imperfections. Was this revealed to the Japanese upon sale?

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        No way! 🙁

        Sold it the technology to them like the carpet baggers they are and then took/skimmed the initial profits and then ran like hell while still draining the world dry from behind the scenes via the various financial instruments and investments in the stock market or now found hidden in offshore accounts.

        But then after the initial profits were made they sold the liability for the entire thing to them while laughing all the way to the bank guarding those profits skimmed/made.

        It has all been a scam of the highest order and a true American for profit operation/scheme and should now be considered part of the spoils of war.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Answer to the brainwashed masses — No, everything is not OK.

    This video shows the initial reaction of a man hearing the news for the first time. NOTHING HAS CHANGED

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYsQVYXayj0&nohtml5=False

    • tinfoilhatbrian tinfoilhatbrian

      If you look at the date the man was finding out March 27, 2011 the date on the video! And he was in Tokyo! Yes, you would think that the evacuation order would have been given! If I didn't watch NHK at the time and see them blow up for myself I would have done nothing, of course! I would not have heard a damn thing like most people! That is the thing about this and every other nuclear disaster that I now know about that pisses me off the most! Now I get to watch people half my age die of awful cancers. Thank the ptb for the warnings….NOT!

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    https://www.illinois.gov/iema/NRS/Documents/FarmerBooklet.pdf

    In case of nuclear fallout, do not drink surface water from lakes, ponds, rivers, or cisterns. Pull your handy multi-tool from your pocket and dig a fucking well to underground water supply. NO PROBLEM. Don't get thirsty while digging.

  • 40 EQ in 24 H, havent seen that in months, although the average is 70

    http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/#{%22feed%22%3A%221day_m25%22%2C%22search%22%3Anull%2C%22listFormat%22%3A%22default%22%2C%22sort%22%3A%22newest%22%2C%22basemap%22%3A%22grayscale%22%2C%22autoUpdate%22%3Atrue%2C%22restrictListToMap%22%3Atrue%2C%22timeZone%22%3A%22utc%22%2C%22mapposition%22%3A[[-77.46602847687328%2C-404.6484375]%2C[84.92832092949963%2C40.42968749999999]]%2C%22overlays%22%3A{%22plates%22%3Atrue}%2C%22viewModes%22%3A{%22list%22%3Atrue%2C%22map%22%3Atrue%2C%22settings%22%3Afalse%2C%22help%22%3Afalse}}

  • Nick

    http://www.trueactivist.com/you-wont-believe-the-truth-about-fukushima-the-japanese-government-is-hiding-from-the-world/

    http://conspiracy-watch.org/11-facts-fukushima-nuclear-disaster-horrifying/

    http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/22211-cutting-through-fukushima-fog-radiation-in-us

    Just yesterday I recall reading about low flying helicopters over Boston to get a read on "natural background radiation." Before the marathon.

    How about baseline?

    There is no natural level of natural background radiation, not after our nuclear cock-ups.

    All of us on this dear planet need to be beyond furious.

    Don't tell me rage isn't called for.

    Screw that.

    Wage peace with a vengeance.

  • 😐

    This is what Nuclear MELTDOWNS do. 😡

    The radioactive contamination will continue with TIME to SPREAD over the remaining 30% of the country.

    The insidious spread and accumulation cannot be stopped or contained.

    ➡ This is an accelerating nightmare… from the dust that blows, dirt on tires or shoes, creeks and rivers flowing, birds that eat contaminated berries or nuts and then fly away to poop outside of the 'mapped' zone.

    Someday the map may look like the one in the short video clip.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzsZTEEkrm0

  • Nick

    https://iec.iaea.org/fmd/search_by_dataset.aspx

    Go ahead, spend sometime searching this database, but try not to be lulled into a sense of complacency or soothed by "downward" trends in readings.

    Look at the opt out movement against standardized tests in NY State.

    How meaningful will THAT data be if 20% don't take the test? (validity becomes suspect)

    Now back to Japan…….

    • Shame it has come to this, but it is better to have access to resources so you are better informed.

      This International list of real time Radiation monitoring stations can be helpful in tracking radiation events worldwide. It can show you where the hot spots are. There are multiple radiation networks private and government run listed, so you can cross check detections.

      http://sccc.org.au/international-radiation-monitoring-stations

    • freebywill

      So I gave the IAEA data search a try, Results of Radionuclide Analysis for Radionuclide concentrations in drinking water by prefecture in Bq/kg

      for Fukushima prefecture

      Start Date 2011-03-11
      Finish Date 2011-04-11

      [ Nice limitation to make data search difficult. ]
      Finish date must be within 1 month of the start date

      Monitoring Point Sample Type Start Sample Time (JST) Radionuclide Measured Value Units
      Fukushima Drinking water 2011-03-18 00:00 I-131 Not Measured
      Fukushima Drinking water 2011-03-18 00:00 Cs-137 Not Measured

      and all dates between

      Fukushima Drinking water 2011-04-11 00:00 I-131 Not Measured
      Fukushima Drinking water 2011-04-11 00:00 Cs-137 Not Measured

      Miyagi same

      My bet is that it was so high they decided to just say they didn't measure it.

      Tokyo (Shinjyuku) Drinking water ( spike here )

      2011-03-22 00:00 I-131 19.000 Bq/kg
      2011-03-22 00:00 Cs-137 0.310 Bq/kg
      2011-03-23 00:00 I-131 26.000 Bq/kg
      2011-03-23 00:00 Cs-137 1.500 Bq/kg
      2011-03-24 00:00 I-131 25.600 Bq/kg
      2011-03-24 00:00 Cs-137 2.400 Bq/kg
      2011-03-25 00:00 I-131 32.000 Bq/kg <<< —–
      2011-03-25 00:00 Cs-137 2.100 Bq/kg
      2011-03-26 00:00 I-131 37.000 Bq/kg <<< —–
      2011-03-26 00:00 Cs-137 1.800 Bq/kg
      2011-03-27 00:00 I-131 20.000 Bq/kg
      2011-03-27 00:00 Cs-137 1.200 Bq/kg

  • Nick

    My point being that our over reliance on data doesn't equate to knowledge.

    The radiation readings don't tell the whole story, just as the standardized tests don't really measure a child's knowledge, especially young ones (I think 5th grade should be the earliest for high stakes tests).

    Japan is toast.

    How else do you want that?

  • I think most mammals are aware that it is the humans that are effing things up. Lucky they can't organize too well.

  • Sol Man

    Unfortunately for every living entity on the planet we are given a creeping permeation from infinite smudge pot Fukushima.

    There are some things that we can do to ameliorate the effects, but it does make living much more difficult.

  • theworldisalie theworldisalie

    When the fuck exactly is the world going to wake up? I mean, you are all getting sick with these crazy ass diseases and cancers at early ages, Your pets are dying. Your children are deformed or sickly or get cancers. You all know that radiation is dangerous, you all know that it kills people, you all know it's poisonous.

    Everybody knows because it's common sense! Everybody. So what is this mental block that is currently in place despite everything you always knew and logically understood.

    Just because some egghead on TV tells you it's ok despite seeing our entire history go by or death, disease and destruction thanks to nuclear weapons, dumping and disasters, you hum away with your fingers in your ears.

    • DUDe DUD

      "..Everybody knows because it's common sense! Everybody. So what is this mental block that is currently in place despite everything you always knew and logically understood…"

      They don't know how evil the top of the pyramid is..so they cling to the illusion..

      • Ya Dud, many don't know the evil sociopaths at the top….and many cannot bring themselves to think about it, even if they suspect it,

        • DUDe DUD

          stock..think litle children with bad parents abusing/starved etc their kids..clearly the kids suffer , get damaged in the proces..

          They try to understand , but due to some algoritme that i assume is directly related to their dependency ( imo , i did not look this up or something so i dont know for sure).. they always end up blaming themselves , and that is cause for extra damage..that can last a lifetime and keep them "wired" for further abuse in relations , all relations, lovers , work and the relation with themselves..

          By the time they are adults and (if) they seek therapy , lots of it is spend taking away the blame/psychological selfpunishement from themselves and put it where it belongs..

          Their parents aka their leaders..

          Regarding humanity as a whole..there is no question that the 90% and the planet itself is abused to the max..we "know" this for century's..but fail to REALLY accept it for what it is and see to what extend it is evolved..

          The way things are evolving trapped in that dynamic that prevents us putting blame firmly where it belongs..the psychopatic puppetmasters that rule and brainwash the world from the shadow's..and all their mercenary's..

          The only "therapy" availible to us will be infinite darkness/nothingness and a sterilised planet..pretty soon..but first a gruesome dying off process already in motion speeding up each passing day lost in collective inactivity and petty lowlevel bickering..

          We are children..our naivity…

          • DUDe DUD

            We are Children..our naivity ABUSED TO DEATH..

            • aunavoz

              Dud .. none of us here were naive after ww2 .. and certainly not after Ronald Reagan administration of massive nuclear arms buildup and the now failed MAD concept ..

              This generation enjoyed the so called benefits of nuclear .. and I apologize to any who actually protested during those times .. I knew a hero during that time ..

              Unless you are actively involved in stopping .. instead of just whining here ..

              You have zero excuses and only yourselves to blame.

              Make phone calls .. send coherent emails .. sign petitions.

              Enenews will not solve the problems. For every bitch post here you could be sending to someone who matters.

              But yeah .. I should just be minding my own business .. as you told me before.

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                we tried to stop the insanity then and we tried to stop it now. But the insanity was above the reach of law, petition or appeal, thus we lost and we arent to blame. Politicians use petitions to light their cigars. If signatures mattered we would be living on a planet without fracking, mountain top and strip mining, water fluoridation, wars, corrupt politics, and nuclear. What happened? Short one lousy signature…damn….

                • aunavoz

                  Bullshit Code .. it takes numbers.

                  So again I ask .. if all is lost and doomed .. why waste your huge intelligence dribbling on here at this site??

                  If you are trying to teach someone something .. what is it??

                  Just to drone and dribble here along with you??

                  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                    aunavoz, it is OK to be scared.

                    I think you have seen the light and just how dire the game board set up by others really is now.

                    Hope for the children can only be realized if we change the direction we adult humans are taking this Earth.

                    Many years have passed since 1992 and we now have 3 Nuclear Core meltdowns that have no solution.
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZsDliXzyAY

                    We all better start fighting in real… human time…now!

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    aunavoz, how did you know my full name was Bullshit Code? I suspect a spy!

                    I try to answer you; First I came looking for this answer; how bad is fukushima? Very frustrating! Nobody could answer with knowledge. I hadnt followed nuclear since the 60s!

                    So I investigated. I tried to add my own insights here and there. Voicing opinion doesnt mean confidence or superiority. I wasnt trying to teach anything.

                    But I could see a huge impasse of confusion around the time bo was talking about Buesseler. People were slamming Buesseler as a liar and pro nuke shill. I thought; hey, I would love to join in and slam Buesseler too, first I have to find out why!

                    The woods hole website was key; This slogan summed it all up; 'we live on a radioactive planet, the danger is in the dose' This is the crux of the entire nuclear industry and science claim. Its an airtight logic and convincing slogan.

                    I researched reasons why the background to fallout comparison was not valid. This lead to the ICRP/ ECRR data. All this time I was being continually hounded by Praising Jesus and also Goodheart to some degree. Instead of me adding my humble bits like everyone else, there was a polarization.

                    It is my response to that camp, and my frustration at not being able to clearly express these simple ideas that make up the bulk of these long in the tooth posts. What you question as teaching…what am I teaching. Like Don Quixote, bullshit Code was battling phantoms. A waste

                    • aunavoz

                      Code .. don't give up but don't waste your talents. Please.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Thanks auna…life looks pretty short when you get my age. Ive done more than enough here, which is just about nothing.

                      Yes, I see myself stumbling into the courtroom, gin bottle in hand, Busby is on the stand, the defendants, TEPCO, GE, the Queen of England and a few others are surrounded by teams of lawyers.

                      Busby starts to speak about the non linear effects of low dose radiation and why the ICRP model is faulty by 100s, even 1000s of times.

                      I lurch forward, blurting out "FAULTY! you aint CHITN its faulty!" just as the armed guards taze me and drag me out feet first, the cool smooth marble doing nothing to sooth my angstistential agony… a few strands of gray hair clotted in a thin trail of blood the only reminder of my contributions….

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    Bullshit Code here; "it takes numbers". I remind you that the largest public demonstration in history…thirty million people hit the streets in protest of the U.S./western alliance invading the middle east after the explosive demolition of the three world trade center buildings. And it didnt do anything. Now…if only they had thirty million and one….things would be different. Aunavos would have realized that 3000 engineers architects and airline pilots werent just whistling dixie, and that geopolitical gaming by elites is a hideous reality. But we were short one, so aunovoz doesnt see it.

              • DUDe DUD

                quote aunavoz :

                "..instead of just whining here .." "..For every bitch post here.."

                Hey aunavoz , if your to dumb to grab the big picture and need to insult around here then yeah..mind your own fucking business instead of bitching and whining here..

                Show me an insult of you that actually improved anything except dragging energy and attention to your disturbed personality.

                "..none of us here were naive after ww2.."

                Riiiight..looks to me the duo-party freakshow , and the global election proces in general, thriving on artificial setup mass stupidity has reached a pretty sick crescendo levels whilest we sink deeper and deeper in the inevitability of total extinction , no thanks to you petty dumbass troubleseeker.

                • DUDe DUD

                  Leave this site alone instead of constantly attacking it and thinking that makes you somehow "a big person".
                  It does the opposite.

                  Start your own revolution with a clique of people that sees a leader with good advise in you and leave us out of it.

                  Why don't you ? Because this is not the only place that does not recognise your "authority" , you just here to dump your frustration about yourselfby attacking others.

    • TimV

      Go ahead, wake the world up now.
      MAD MAX here we come.
      This will be better than a reality TV show.
      Oh , it is a reality show.
      More coconut cream pie please.

  • theworldisalie theworldisalie

    Please world, just wake up already, it's okay to come to terms with this and accept it for what it is. You know why? If you don't and we all don't do something as a species, it's game over.

    That's it, that's the reality. You don't have a choice anymore, so open those eyelids.

  • The half O grapefruit sized tumor on the side of my neck sure the hell hurts, I pity anyone actually living INSIDE this toxic Fukushima wasteland by force!

    Many silently and self evacuated Tokyo peeps are here in Summerlin now, and the disrespect they give us Americans is downright unbelievable! Go back home for all I care if this is how yer gonna be. Visas do NOT last forever folks… Pay back is a bitch!

    PBS is busy telling us how wonderfully fun the Japanese mountains are to visit in the winter time in a new snow monkey flick. Too bad they do not bother to tell us WHY even the snow monkeys health is failing.

    • theworldisalie theworldisalie

      Yes my girlfriend knows a couple who just got back from there… She was like are you guys nuts, why would you do that to yourself.

      They laughed it off and said it was only a small portion of japan that was effected and it has all went away now.

      You can't even make up the stupid that is circulating around.

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        Just talked to a woman in a store today. She said a family she knows just went to Japan on a vacation. "It was nice. They are now looking to move there."
        Aiyiyi

    • GOM GOM

      Onto
      SARS: My Doctor asked me, as I gasped for breath, "Have you been to China"? I politely said, "You do realize the heavy Chinese population here right"? No comment ensued the question. Heaven forbid you speak race in a Federal hospital..

      I never saw too many Japs, only around the Strip with their camera. Apparent tourists. I would worry about radioactivity in these people. It may sound funny, but who knows? Never thought I would contract SARS here either.
      Would they be 'radioactive' coming from a 'hot' zone?

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

        Racism won't help the world. Using racist terms just divides people. There are so many radioactive hot spots in the US and so many people in the US who have received radiation from medical diagnostic and therapeutic means it makes better sense to blame the nuclear industry which includes the MIC in the US.

        • GOM GOM

          PJ
          Sorry you appear ill-informed. Race has everything to do with the world, generally speaking. When speaking in terms of a pandemic illness such as SARS, the virus began in China. Ebola, Lassa, Dengue indigenous to Africa. Blacks mostly. Smallpox in America, mostly whites. Preidents fled the disease, not the race.

          When doctors/medical personal ask people if they recently travelled, they are keeping a keen eye out for the next lethal virus. Virus spreads through cultures, often 'jumping ship' by an unknown carrier from a foreign land.

        • GOM GOM

          Inform yourself PJ

          >What Radioactive Contamination Is:

          Radioactive contamination occurs when radioactive material is deposited on or in an object or a person. Radioactive materials released into the environment can cause air, water, surfaces, soil, plants, buildings, people, or animals to become contaminated. A contaminated person has radioactive materials on or inside their body.

          >What Internal Contamination Is:

          Internal contamination occurs when people swallow or breathe in radioactive materials, or when radioactive materials enter the body through an open wound or are absorbed through the skin. Some types of radioactive materials stay in the body and are deposited in different body organs. Other types are eliminated from the body in blood, sweat, urine, and feces.

          >An uncontaminated person can be exposed by being too close to radioactive material or a contaminated
          person, place, or thing.

          http://www.bt.cdc.gov/radiation/pdf/contamination.pdf

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

            Where did cell phones start? Where are their GWEN towers? Which country spends the most on defense? Who has the most nuclear reactors? Which country has the most electromagnetic pollution? Which countries are supporting CERN? Which countries are hawking thorium reactors? Which countries are hawking fusion reactors? Which country uses the most glyphosate? Which country is hawking GMOs? Which country caused the terrible earthquake that took down the nuclear weapons making facility in China? Which country is killings its own citizens with radioactive experimentation?

            The US has people of all races. Racist arguments are created to divide and conquer. As far as DNA goes, there is little difference between races. Racism is just Hitler and fascism all over again. Getting people to be divided over racial lines is how the elite are planning to makes slaves of everyone in the world.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

            All the radiation from Fukushima and from all the other sources circles the globe in the air every 40 days. All the oceans radiation spreads throughout the world whether from off shore dumping in the Arctic or dumping by the French in the Atlantic, from Fukushima, etc., etc.

            There is no place left on the earth where there is no contaminatiion from radioactive contamination.

            What do you think all the high altitude nuclear testing did to the world, and all the other land based nuclear testing which was done at various places around the globe?

            What do you think all the use of depleted uranium weapons does? That contamination also circles the globe. When a person goes on an airplane, the worst radioactive contamination is in the air. The testing done after Fukushima showed that the radioactive contamination was much worse on the airplane flying though the atmosphere than on the ground at Fukushima.

          • Angela_R

            GOM @ 2.25pm,
            "An uncontaminated person can be exposed by being too close to radioactive material or a contaminated
            person, place, or thing"

            and if people had fully understood this, then they would have been able to comprehend why the difficulty in relocating 60 million people who may have been irradiated.

  • theworldisalie theworldisalie

    In Alberta now, I can't even take a shower anymore without it burning my scalp, making my skin itch and feel like pins and needles and then my hair falls out. I'm sure that's normal though.

    Never mind my swollen lymph nodes that randomly ache for the last few years and my overall lack of energy. I likely have had a slow form of lymphoma for awhile now, I know it. I know the doctors know it but they keep giving me B.S. and say I'm fine.

    I have just accepted it for what it is. Oh and the chronic cough, especially every time after I eat. My girlfriend has the same problem as well as hair loss and chronic sinus and lung infections.

    We're all fucking dying. It's pretty obvious to me.

    • We Not They Finally

      So sorry and so sad. For now at least, we all seem to be stuck with a "relative safety" dilemma. Like us, we left New Mexico becuase there were such high rads from Fukushima plus WIPP downstate. (WIPP pushed us into "medical evacuation mode.") Then we found out that even here in Massachusetts (Bob Nichols, Veterans Today, publishes rad readings across the U.S. each week,) it goes over 1,000 CPM regularly = medically lethal! But M.D.'s generally seem to be completely uneducated and unprepared. We went to four specialists from the symptoms that WIPP left us with and no one diagnosed and no one helped. So we research holistic and herbs and organic and the like and do the best we can. it's a bad deal, but at least we've figured out that the ones to rely on are US.

    • Welcome! Alberta can use your help i think.

  • The plan was to distribute the contamination to mitigate claims against the criminal syndicate. Job done, crime distributed.

    What's the price of a ton of ground children's bones this week; a dollar?

    They fought the law & the law won. Every time. Dizzy devils.

    • PlowboyGrownUp

      "distribute the contamination". That occurred to me when I heard about "small modular reactors" spread all over. How ya gonna prove where the radiation is coming from?

  • Sol Man

    True, you can't make up the stupid in a contaminated brain, it just is.

  • Angela_R

    Check out the information provided to the Japanese people on 27th March, 2011. It has been referred to as a 'scary day'. An announcement was made that the Fukushima plant radiation was 10 million times the normal level. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPuiEb7_fa4&nohtml5=False

    There are a number of videos on YouTube with reports from that day
    The link to the following video has already been placed above by unincredulous, there are others, but this one to me, gives a heartfelt human account https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYsQVYXayj0&nohtml5=False. Thank you unincredulous.

    Would it have been possible for the Japanese authorities to find a country/countries that would accept 60 million people, some possibly irradiated?
    Sketchy remarks were reported re Japan approaching Russia to take back the Kuril Islands as a partial solution to relocation of some of their people. China was also rumoured to have offered their ghost cities.

    • theworldisalie theworldisalie

      All of this would be admitting that one fuck up by nuclear means an entire nation ruined for eternity.

      It's apparently better to sicken and kill many millions in short order without mercy while telling them they are crazy and to shut up and smile more.

    • tinfoilhatbrian tinfoilhatbrian

      I had the pleasure of watching CNN on march 14, 2011 I wish I was recording it they showed a satellite image of a bright red radiation plume crossing the Pacific and stopping at the mountains of California and starting to spread over the state with the announcer saying "there are slightly detectable readings of radiation in Las Vegas and Illinois but none detected anywhere else". That was the warning the west coast got. I assumed the next day alarms would go off and we would be told to stay inside,take Iodine etc. Nothing! Nada! Zilch!

      • Down The River Down The River

        I must have missed the news that night. All I remember is the “Nothing! Nada! Zilch!”

        I first heard how bad Fukushima was, a year and a half later, when I stumbled onto ENENews

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      They should have accepted the ghost cities and they still can..we "are" all one.

      Then kindly shut all this Nuclear Power Crap down worldwide!

      Ban it worldwide!

      Do this now! 🙂

      We humans can not handle this Nuclear Technology properly at this time. 🙁

      Earth is running out of time!

  • Nick

    "The research will test whether SIAL® can be used to solidify sludge which erupted on site after the double impact of an earthquake and tsunami in March 2011."

    https://www.energyvoice.com/other-news/106499/amec-foster-wheeler-wins-fukushima-deal/

    And just what was this "sludge" that erupted?

  • Here is a free Microwave Safety Guide to help people reduce their family's exposure to non ionizing radiation.

    A single toxin in the environment can be a hazard, and maybe an organism's natural biological defense system can deal with this effectively. If an organism has multiple toxins present, radiological and chemical, to deal with at the same time, you get a biological toxicity multiplying effect. The human or animal deference systems become weaker the more toxins they have to deal with.

    In our present toxic environment it is important to reduce all major environmental toxic stresses as much as possible, not just ionizing radiation. One of the unrecognized risks is non ionizing radiation! There is just some much independent research evidence showing that it is biologically harmful.

    You can easily reduce exposure to non ionizing radiation by a significant amount, by following the practical suggestions on page two. It does not cost you anything to follow these practices. Feel free to distribute this free guide. It has links to a number of free excellent short videos. These will educate and inform you of the risks, plus get you up to speed on resent research on the subject.

    http://sccc.org.au/wifi/microwave-safety-chart.pdf

    • I also suggest looking at using Liposomal Vitamin C.

      It was developed by Japanese Oncologist Dr. Atsuo Yanagisawa, after doing ongoing research on the Fukushima Nuclear Disaster site workers.

      On the first page of "The Food Lab," (link below), you will find videos about his research that lead to Liposomal Vitamin C creation, plus information on how to make your own.

      http://sccc.org.au/archives/2861

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        thanks vital1. A pretty extensive review of the studies shows that the lipo C does not pass through the intestines intact. Instead, its digested. Also IV vit C results in MUCH higher blood levels of vitamin C compared to lipo C. This following statement is not correct, according to my many months of study and experiment;
        "liposomal vitamin C is 6 to 8x more effective than IV vit C"

        This is important because some people are trying to use vit C to cure cancer. Believing those unfounded statements could cost a life. I know about Levy, clinical results and all of that.

        Lipo or just blending lecithin and vit C increases blood level perhaps by twice for a given amount of C, but only at higher doses of 5 grams and above. At lower, dietary doses vit C already has over 90% absorption. Beware the sales incentive!

        The key is to take it in several doses per day. I believe blending with lecithin is probably as effective as using an ultrasonic device.

        • CodeShutdown thanks for your research information.

          "Also IV vit C results in MUCH higher blood levels of vitamin C compared to lipo C."

          Dr. Atsuo Yanagisawa research findings indicate that the Liposomal form of Vitamin C improves the absorption of the vitamin C through the cell walls.

          The question is, does the Liposomal form of Vitamin C improve Vitamin C cellular absorption?

          You need the vitamin C to be inside cellular structures to counter the oxidative stress damage caused by ionizing radiation.

          Any ideas on that?

          • "liposomal vitamin C is 6 to 8x more effective than IV vit C"

            My understanding from the research, is that the Liposomal Vitamin C combination seems to improve cellular absorption of vitamin C by ~80%.

            In any case, it would appear no mater how it is administered, any increase in Vitamin C intake would counter oxidate stress, or the production of free radicals.

            • Mack Mack

              vital1 and CodeShutdown – Sorry if I missed it somewhere, but which form of Vitamin C is recommended? Absorbic Acid, L-Ascorbic Acid, Acerola, Ascorbyl palmitate, etc. ?

              • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                Best source, rose hips.

                http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3399354/

                Oxid Med Cell Longev. 2012; 2012: 621579.

                Published online 2012 Jul 8.
                doi: 10.1155/2012/621579
                PMCID: PMC3399354
                Erythrocyte Antioxidant Protection of Rose Hips (Rosa spp.)
                C. Widén, 1 , 2 ,* A. Ekholm, 1 M. D. Coleman, 3 S. Renvert, 2 and K. Rumpunen 1

                5. Conclusions

                The fact that all sequentially eluted extracts studied contributed to protective effects on the erythrocytes indicate that rose hips contain many different antioxidant compounds. The aqueous metaphosphoric acid extracts showed the highest protection against oxidative damage, this implies protective capacity of the ascorbic acid as well as other unidentified compounds.

                http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22083314

                J Sci Food Agric. 2012 Apr;92(6):1273-81. doi: 10.1002/jsfa.4695. Epub 2011 Nov 14.

                Effect of rosehip (Rosa canina L.) phytochemicals on stable free radicals and human cancer cells.

                Tumbas VT1, Canadanović-Brunet JM, Cetojević-Simin DD, Cetković GS, Ethilas SM, Gille L.

                …CONCLUSION:

                The results of this study confirm that vitamin C and flavonoids are responsible for the antioxidant activity of rosehip tea, while only polyphenols contribute to its antiproliferative activity.

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                Mack, its interesting that dehydroascorbic acid is the form which is transported in your body. A little counter-intuitive, but your body converts it back and forth. Investigate the zucchini method to achieve higher blood levels of vit C.

                As Hillbilly points out, its the entire natural complex of C which is desirable, polyphenols bioflavinoids…

                http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/vitaminc/ascorbic-acid-is-not-vitamin-c/

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              vital1…the liposomal vitamin C does not cross the brush border lining of the intestines, it does not get through the tight junctions, very little gets through peyers patches…what little manages to get through (leaky gut syndrome?) is vigorously attacked by your immune system. Beware the profit motive, beware the profit motive!

              In fact there would be a danger from your immune system if the lipo could get through. Just ask those boys like Levy if they are injecting lipo C. This lipo hype is actually dangerous because everyone believes without research.

              Think of it this way; the body design was not so faulty as assumed by Linus Pauling. Remember the unknown unknowns! One thing can be said about biology; its not simple! One theory why several animals lost the ability to synthesize vit C is that it conferred a glutathione advantage. As long as the diet is right, nature saw an advantage.

              Vitamin C is not merely a free radical reducer, it modulates certain cellular signals. There is a little parallel to low level radiation here too…ROS, the bad reactive oxygen species that do most of the damage from low level radiation and also normal cell function are not entirely bad. Without ROS, there is no life. Thats not a hormesis promoting statement. The point is that biology is complicated, the understanding of which does not yield to simplistic blanket judgements.

              This idea of cellular uptake of lipo is a case in point….

              • Sickputer

                Interesting conjecture CS about the reason why humans can't produce vitamin C. Yet here I am stirring my ultrasonic today making a big batch of Lipo-C. 🙂

                I doubt my megadose C usage is harmful and maybe it helps. We seem to be flooded with new toxins every day anyway, so why not create some expensive human waste? ;-). To each their own. We're all croaking anyway like a frog in a boiling pot.

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                the phospholipid of lecithin is very similar to the cell wall. The idea floating around is that lipo C just fuses with the cell unloading its contents. In fact the cell wall is loaded with extremely complicated transport and signal mechanisms. The inside of the cell membrane presents a different message to the body than the outside. There is a book, sorry I dont have the link, that goes into depth about acute (deadly) autoimmune syndrome from using liposomes as a vaccine adjuvant.

                Sorry, Im rambling but I hope to convey the complexity of the issue. There is much hype about lipo C. Its disappointing and counterproductive.

                It should be pointed out that at high blood levels, Vitamin C is also an oxidizer. It is this hydrogen peroxide production that is theorized to be the cytotoxic effect which kills cancer cells. Thus, high dose vitamin C is a kind of DIY chemotherapy and is almost opposite to its effect at normal dietary doses. Getting to this level is the hard part. The body doesnt allow it. But during illness, the body's bowel tolerance goes up. So the bowel tolerance is useful as some measure of how much C your body wants. Keep in mind that dietary absorption of C is already 98%. You cant double or triple that! 100% is as good as it gets. So why use lipo? At oral doses of 5 grams and more, lecithin…and maybe other fats (put the lime in the coconut?) increases absorption by twice. Blood levels achieved are still 1/5 the IV route. This is just barely enough to…

    • Typo correction: There is just so much independent research evidence showing that it is biologically harmful.

  • Jebus Jebus

    US Think Tank Urging Japan Keep Nuclear Funded By Japanese Govt & Nuclear Industry

    The CSIS received over $500,000 from the Japanese government. They do not disclose how much over half a million dollars they received or for what time frame this money was payed to the firm. Japan is a top donor to CSIS. Only the UAE and US are included in that top donor category along with Japan.

    The corporate donors to CSIS are much more revealing and may explain Hamre’s tour and statements defending Japan’s nuclear industry along with his attempts to pressure the current PM and his cabinet to change course back in 2012.

    This list of nuclear industry companies is compiled from the CSIS corporate funding statement. Bold and italic companies are based in Japan or have heavy investment or large divisions that operate in Japan’s nuclear industry.

    http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=15416

  • ISeePinkClouds

    Yes. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-hiroshima-nuclear-doctrine-us-nuclear-weapons-deployed-against-russia-and-the-middle-east/5519849

    The “Hiroshima Nuclear Doctrine”: US Nuclear Weapons Deployed against Russia and the Middle East
    By Prof Michel Chossudovsky
    Global Research, April 12, 2016

    Foreign ministers of the G7 group of industrial countries have called for a world without nuclear weapons.

    In their final declaration at Hiroshima meeting in Japan, the top diplomats cited deteriorating security conditions in Syria, Ukraine and particularly the Korean Peninsula as key challenges to achieving the goal.

    The declaration comes as some of the G7 member states including the US and Britain possess huge nuclear stockpiles. Nuclear weapons states have refused to destroy or reduce their stocks of nuclear weapons despite repeated promises to do so. Some of them are spending billions of dollars to upgrade their deadly weapons. (video)

    Peace

  • ISeePinkClouds

    Yes. https://www.rt.com/op-edge/339039-plutonium-us-russia-deal-panama/

    Why Sitting Bull was right about Washington’s lack of integrity
    by John Wight

    That integrity is a foreign land where Washington is concerned is an inarguable fact. In the latest example, the failure to complete the construction of a nuclear disposal plant agreed with Russia once again leaves Washington’s credibility in tatters.

    Underlying this issue is the attempt by the US federal government to alter the terms of the agreement it signed with Russia in 2000 for the disposal of weapons-grade plutonium, with each country building industrial plants with this specific objective in mind. Russia has kept its side of the bargain and, at no small cost, built the facility required to dispose of its excess nuclear material in the manner agreed.

    The US on the other hand is now looking at an alternative method of disposal, which amounts to storing said material in a process that allows it to retain its “breakout potential” – i.e. its ability to be converted back into weapons grade plutonium.

    ‘Not what we agreed on’: Processing method swap violates US-Russian plutonium deal https://t.co/kePBWpIv3qpic.twitter.com/EA3MiCeGWl
    — RT (@RT_com) April 9, 2016

    "There are things they tell us that sound good to hear, but when they have accomplished their purpose they will go home and will not try to fulfill our agreements with them." ~ Sitting Bull

    Peace

  • ISeePinkClouds

    Yes. http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/04/11/boston-helicopter-low-flying-radiation-nuclear-security/

    Low-Flying Government Helicopter To Measure Radiation In Boston Area
    April 11, 2016 1:10 PM

    BOSTON (CBS) – Heads up, Boston: A helicopter will be flying around the city at altitudes as low as 150 feet this week, but officials say there’s no cause for concern.

    The National Nuclear Security Administration announced in a statement that from Tuesday through Friday, a low-flying helicopter will be measuring “naturally occurring background radiation” over an area covering 13 square miles.

    The helicopter, equipped with radiation-sensing technology, will fly in a grid pattern at about 80 miles per hour. The flights will only happen during daylight hours.

    “The measurement of naturally occurring radiation to establish baseline levels is a normal part of security and emergency preparedness,” the statement read.

    The flyovers will be completed days before the Boston Marathon on April 18. There’s no specific mention of the marathon in the official statement, but the government has been measuring radiation over Boston just before the race for the past several years.

    Peace

  • Gasser Gasser

    Something to; know, think about, remember, pass on, reference, or rant with.

    ~Top Ten One Liners~

    10. Nuclear a forever Reality.
    9. Slowly poisoning humanity.
    8. Erasing life's living quality.
    7. Shortens happy longevity.
    6. Produces mental disability.
    5. Destroys Genome quality.
    4. Produces much mortality.
    3. Erodes workforce stability.
    2. Prone to ELE eventuality.
    1. Beyond moral practicality.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      yeah Gasser! One liners can sink ocean liners

      …An ocean of primordial radioactivity never made exclusion zones, never killed anything or left Tokyo uninhabitable; Nuclear fallout causes silent spring…

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

    To climate change deniers:

    “…It is interesting to note that a global increase of Carbon 14 – one such as has never before been seen – parallels the slowing growth and the endemic death of trees from Lebanon to the Himalayas. …”
    http://www.nuclearreader.info/chapter3.html

    Healthy vegetation provides shade and cooling. Damaged vegetation is also contributing to the heating of the earth. It is nuclear radiation that is causing this damage and fossil fuels also cause this damage.

    Biofuels are definitely not the answer.

    When people are fed radiation contaminated food, that radiation doesn't disappear, but destroys and land, water and air everywhere.

  • penny penny

    It's not debate that is the problem, but the approach. Threatening to report people, claiming that someone has made despicable threats, name-calling, keeping an 'attack count', assuming that others have the basest motives… does nothing to promote education, and everything to waste people's time.

    One could just stick to the facts, and hope that all gentle readers have the perspicacity to sort the wheat from the chaff. One could. Should. Would?

    • penny penny

      …except when the debate serves to sow confusion, which is often the case. There is plenty of proof out there that the ICRP model is garbage, and that man-made radionuclides are deadly, period. Low-level man-made radiation kills. Any scientifically literate person who doesn't get that, doesn't want to.

  • A Penny for your thoughts?

    Yea, how DARE Sanders try to REALLY win the election?

    Obviously, he stands no chance because the deck, the house of cards, and all of the money and power of the 1 percent and huge corporations is stacked against him, so why is he even trying?

    Bernie Sanders Explains Why He’s Different From Trump
    The Late Show with Stephen Colbert
    https://youtu.be/135pYusFV_k

    sarc

  • Cisco Cisco

    Japan prepares for release of radioactive material from Fukushima plant

    "To dump or not to dump a little-discussed substance is the question brewing in Japan as it grapples with the aftermath of
    the nuclear catastrophe in Fukushima five years ago. The substance is tritium."

    …"Rosa Yang, a nuclear expert at the Electric Power Research Institute, based in Palo Alto, Calif., who advises Japan on
    decommissioning reactors, believes the public angst is uncalled for. She says a Japanese government official should simply
    get up in public and drink water from one of the tanks to convince people it's safe."

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/04/12/japan-prepares-for-release-radioactive-material-from-fukushima-plant.html

  • To dump or not to dump, that is the question.

    Dumping Trump into a Fukushima storage tank is not nice.

    Dumping Tritium is not nice

    Dumping Trice is not nice.

    Thus, dumping is like putting Trump and Sanders into the same tub.

    Not nice.

    We can conclude that dumping Fukushima tanks into bathtubs is only going to be allowed when Trump and Sanders are both in the same bathtub.

    sarc

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    "Now what would have happened if this molten material had escaped from the containment?… A radius of 250 kilometers — which includes the city of Tokyo — anyone living in this area, if you count them up it comes to 50 million or 40% of the Japanese population, and they would all have had to be evacuated." Former PM Kan

    Mr. Kan:
    Molten material did, in fact, escape from the containment.
    And you knew this was the case at the time.
    You knew Tokyo had to be evacuated.
    You knew that the evacuation of Tokyo would mean the end of Japan.
    You just couldn't pull the trigger.
    50,000,000 people were contaminated.
    Every life will be affected.
    Tokyo is too contaminated to even visit.
    There is still Iodine-131 in Tokyo sewage sludge.
    The corium in the ground has ongoing criticalities.
    Today.
    It was a crime not to evacuate Tokyo.
    Now, Tokyo is toast.
    On you, Mr. Kan.

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Frozen Wall Update:
    "Tepco’s “Ice Wall” is progressing “largely smoothly”. A company spokesperson made this observation during Monday’s visit to F. Daiichi by Minister of the Economy Yosuke Takagi. The minus 30oC refrigerant is being circulated through the ocean-side section of the system, to freeze the soil and create a barrier to groundwater flow. Tepco says the soil temperature has dropped to between minus 4 and 6 degrees at some locations. Tepco also showed the new rainwater run-off outlets that discharge inside the barricaded inner harbor (quay). The outlets from the “K” drainage ditch monitors had generated sporadic alarms due to radiation levels in the runoff, causing an outcry from local fisheries. The mildly radioactive runoff will no longer have any direct path to the sea. http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201604050046.html Tepco’s Press handout containing pictures of the ice wall’s technology can be found here… http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/handouts/2016/images/handouts_160107_01-e.pdf&quot;
    http://www.hiroshimasyndrome.com/fukushima-accident-updates.html

    • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

      The Tepco link appears to no longer be working.
      What's up with that?

      Where is the damn corium, eh, Tepco?

      • Sol Man

        Considering the temperature of the reaction at the moment of the explosion they may exist only in our imagination. Otherwise, it is mostly vaporized, in my opinion. What % may be left as corium?

    • I think the ice wall may be failing during the current downpour.

      On April 7, 2016 (US time zone) the visible atmospheric emissions were down substantially:
      http://majiasblog.blogspot.com/2016/04/visible-fukushima-emissions-down.html

      A week later, April 13 (US time zone) the visible atmospheric emissions are WAY UP again. I can see wet streets at the Futaba intersection so perhaps the sheer volume of water running through the site is overwhelming diversion attempts and (perhaps) the ice wall itself:

      http://majiasblog.blogspot.com/2016/04/unfortunately-heavy-visible-emissions.html

      • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

        Majia:
        Yup.
        When they pounded in the Impermeable Wall, the groundwater backed up behind it.
        When they later finished this wall, the harborside wall begun to bend out into the harbor as the water backed up.
        With the Frozen Wall, they started with the harbor side leg first.
        This is exactly wrong, and will back up water behind it.
        Expect the cup to fill, until we have groundwater flooding at ground level.
        Heated by the corium, expect to see increasing steaming events, as time goes on.

        A better strategy would be to freeze the uphill leg first, thus diverting groundwater around the reactor ruins.
        Big engineering error.
        Unintended consequences.
        I just hope that the mistakes don't make the area so radioactive that the workers will be driven away.

  • If 50,0000 square miles are HIGHLY radiation contaminated, then how many square miles are MEDIUM radiation contaminated, and how many square miles are LOW radiation contaminated?

    Maybe triple, on the conservative side?

    150,000 square miles total?

    Any guesses anyone?

    • ISeePinkClouds

      Yes.DR.Goodheart.ty. I believe that All of Japan is Highly contaminated. Peace

      • theworldisalie theworldisalie

        I believe so as well, it will continue to move around the environment indefinitely and contaminate and mingle into everything. I mean, look how mobile isotopes are, cesium continuously gets spewed everywhere with pollen for example.

        If there is tritium in the ground water, the plants up take it and even if you bump into them or the wind blows on them, tritium explodes from them in a gas plume.

        The entire water shed is contaminated with the corium's as a perpetual generator. The constant air emissions and the redisposition from evaporation from the land and the Sea spray dispersal all equal everything being saturated with this shit.

        Japan is 100% destroyed and will be uninhabitable for ever.

    • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

      Doc,
      That reads: "…radius of 250 kilometers", not 250 miles.

    • Cisco Cisco

      There is no end to the contamination. Radioactive steam continues unabated and is pouring out of the burning coriums 24/7. A daily river of highly radioactive water pouring into the pacific…trillions of Becquerels from approx. 1900 other radionuclides/transuranics; and, hundreds of incinerators geographically distributed on/across Honshu spewing tons of radioactive gases into the atmosphere guarantee total land mass contamination that will/is destroy/destroying Japan forever.

      North America is next. You can bet the Central Valley, the San Joaquin Valley and North to the fruit growing regions in Washington and Oregon are already highly contaminated. If you're consuming vegetables, fruit, and nuts from your local supermarket, you are ingesting radioactive isotopes. Additionally, unlimited produce, consumables, and products coming from Japan are radioactive.

      There is no escape, we are dead meat too. Our demise will take a little longer. It's not a question of if, but when.

      • ISeePinkClouds

        Yes. Cisco. ty. I believe that you are exactly right. My only experience with radiation over a large area is my experience with WIPP. It contaminated my home,even though WIPP is 200 mi. North,and the initial release went NW.

        WIPP radiation,Plutonium,Americium,and Tritium,arrived here on a North Wind,two weeks after the initial release. The mean average gamma count went from 12 to 35. Over the past two years it has gone down to 20 cpm mean average. This experience showed me that radiation is highly mobile once it is free in the environment. This is why I say,to use obewanspeaks phrase,"Japan is Toast". Peace

        • DUDe DUD

          "..Over the past two years it has gone down to 20 cpm mean average.."

          Not bad..in my house it barely never drops below 30 CPM , at the moment average is 39,44..and it is often closer to 50 then to 40..

          Belgium , Europe.

        • flannelman flannelman

          WIPP that is/was to hold things that need to be kept confined and away from the environment for a very long time. Has filters, fans and vents leading to the outside environment WIPP was supposed to protect.

          Aren't fans, filters and vents connected to the outside a design flaw from the outset? With keeping things inside and protected from the outside being the stated goal?

          It failed miserably once. They were just getting started. Seems like they wish to fill er up anyway.
          Any redesigning going to occur, or just hoping for the best as to future ventilation system failure?

          • ISeePinkClouds

            Yes. Flannelman. ty. The DOE has spent $500,000,000 to upgrade the ventilation system. They are now capable of venting 500,000 scf/min. The DOE plans to open WIPP this year. They will be storing high level waste from Savannah River,and Hanford,among others,but not LANL,again,yet. The WIPP charter only allows for Transuranic waste. I expect the definition of Transuranic to change. Peace

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

    New tests show plutonium reached millions of times normal levels at WIPP site — Concern air filters at plant may not have worked — Gov’t accused of lying about radiation leak (VIDEO)
    http://enenews.com/new-tests-show-plutonium-millions-of-times-above-normal-levels-at-wipp-site-concern-air-filters-at-plant-may-not-have-worked-govt-accussed-of-lying-about-radiation-leak-video

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

      “During a classified speech given in ‘Building X’ on a Sunday afternoon in October 1946, [Dr. Stafford] Warren sketched the apocalypse he feared would come. ‘Soon the number of bombs which will have been let off will have made available so much radioactivity that it will seriously damage our food supplies and make serious changes in our world economy. Tis is not a figment of the imagination at all.’ To the security-cleared audience, he added the following warning:
      “‘You need only to absorb a few micrograms of plutonium and other long-life fission materials, and then know that you are going to develop a progressive anemia or a tumor in from 5 to 15 years. This is an insidious hazard and an insidious lethal effect hard to guard against. It has a tremendous morale-destroying effect. Would you want to live tin an area which was contaminated with something that was all around you which you couldn’t eliminate and which would get on your clothes, in your house, in the water, in the milk, and all the food?’…”
      Eileen Welsome. The Plutonium Files: America’s Secret Medical Experiments in the Cold War (1999), p. 178-79.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

      Deadly Deceit: Low-Level Radiation High-Level Cover-Up Paperback – April, 1991
      by Jay M. Gould (Author), Benjamin A. Goldman (Author)
      http://www.amazon.com/Deadly-Deceit-Low-Level-Radiation-High-Level/dp/0941423565

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus

      • Bruce Conway
      May 10, 2011 at 10:28 am
      ALL ABOUT PLUTONIUM
      http://www.nci.org/new/nci-plu.htm
      Beyond the diseconomics and the proliferation and terrorism risks of plutonium, there are also severe safety and environmental hazards. Plutonium is fiendishly toxic. A speck of it the size of a pollen grain, if caught in the lungs after inhalation or in bone after ingestion, can cause cancer. A severe reactor accident with plutonium-based MOX fuel in one-third of the core will result in 100% more latent cancer fatalities than if the core was made up entirely of conventional uranium fuel. Such an accident with an all-MOX core would kill 300% more people than with an all-uranium core. (See NCI Scientific Director Edwin Lyman’s “Public Health Risks of Substituting Mixed-Oxide Fuel for Uranium Fuel in Pressurized Water Reactors,” Science and Global Security, Princeton University, 2000, Volume 9, pp. 1-47.) http://www.nci.org/pdf/lyman-mox-sgs.pdf
      Germany has canceled its domestic reprocessing program and tried to cancel reprocessing contracts with the British and French reprocessing companies. Japan, however, is expanding its domestic reprocessing program and is the leading foreign customer of the British and French reprocessing companies. Japan now owns about 30 tons of civilian plutonium, more than any other non-nuclear-weapon state. By 2010, Japan could have about 100 tons of separated plutonium, about a quarter of the world total of civilian plutonium by that time, and an…

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    http://animatedsoftware.com/environment/tritium/2006/EPATritiumStandard.htm

    Copyright (c) Russell "Ace" Hoffman

    …Tritium glows beautifully. The amount of tritium found in a typical illuminated rifle sight is between about 0.012 Curies and 0.200 Curies. Illuminated handgun sights often use even more tritium. Tritium is also used in some watch dials, and in exit signs in theaters and office buildings. Airport runway lights can use from 30 to 165 Curies of tritium per light, which could add up to as much as 100,000 Curies per runway. Yes, these are undoubtedly serious health risks when these things break or are discarded, and even on a daily basis, due to leakage. And yes, the tritium usually comes from nuclear power plants.

    Whether in the form of gaseous hydrogen or as water vapor, 1.85 x 10^12 Bq (50 Ci) of tritium occupies a volume of about 1/6 of a cup. (Source: LBL)…

    • ISeePinkClouds

      Yes. HillbillyHoundDog. ty, I read recently that some gas lantern mantles have Tritium in them. Peace

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        Thorium is the main one PinkClouds.

        Thorium is radioactive and produces a radioactive gas, radon-220, as one of its decay products. Moreover, when heated to incandescence the thorium volatilizes its ingrowth radio-daughters, particularly radium-224. Despite its very short half-life, radium quickly replenishes from its radio-parent (thorium-228), and every new heating of the mantle to incandescence releases a fresh flush of radium-224 into the air. This byproduct can be inhaled if the mantle is being used indoors, and is an internal alpha-emitter radio-toxicity concern. Secondary decay products of thorium include radium and actinium. Because of this, there are concerns about the safety of thorium mantles.
        But dont worry because they have compared it to background radiation using the ICRP standard;
        A study in 1981 estimated that the dose from using a thorium mantle every weekend for a year would be 0.3-0.6 millirems , tiny in comparison to the normal annual dose of a few hundred mrem

        • ISeePinkClouds

          Yes. CodeShutdown. Thank you for taking your time to clarify that Thorium is the radioactive constituent of a lantern mantle,as well as to go so far as to explain how it works,as well.

          When I threw in that poorly thought out response,my mind was on where I was going,rather than where I was.

          Today was the most beautiful day so far this Spring. I was happy to see the Pecan Trees blooming; everything is in bloom. Perfect.

          And what a thread we have here. Important topics. After reading the interview with Hiroake Koide I was convinced that Newsers know more about what is happening at Fukushima than he does. Still,a revealing interview. I actually like Koide quite a bit,as a person,from reading the interview:

          "In other words, every single individual human being has a different way of living a life; they are each unique. They have each lived a life that absolutely no one else could have lived. It is a real loss if they don't live up to their full potential. Those are my thoughts.

          So for my own unique self, and so for your own unique self, and Mr. Kasai's own unique self, none of us should be compelled by someone else to do something (meirei o sarete/命令されて). If we don't live our lives according to the will coming from deep within ourselves, that's a real loss; we must all live with our values coming from within ourselves."

          Peace

          • Ya Iseepinkclouds….I am very looking forward to seeing my Hazelnut trees finally bear nuts….I hope they are not mutated, but I feel good enough in the location I am in.

            stock out.

  • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

    My condolences to the Japanese people who are waist deep in the crap spewing out, leaking, raining down on them and then decontaminated via ineffective attempts at decontamination re;the pipe dream fed them by the elite who insist they return to uninhabitable land to rebuild, farm,eat,sleep and wallow in the radioactive shitium is limited these days because they had the opportunity to rise and call for the end of nuclear in their country and lead the rest by example.
    Besides that, if they are waist deep in shitium then I must surely be knee deep in the same muck and maybe even more so thanks to the nuclear poisoning from the fleet of leaking,oozing,spewing piles of atomic shit of US origins already present and growing (?!) Anyone who can claim that they have not seen or felt the long reach of the accumulated shitium that 311;brought with the new higher background radiation levels and the new, harmful FDA, EPA DIL's must have been exposed to the level that fried their dysfunctional brains or they are just sellouts, scum propagandists brown nosing for the worst of the industrial poisoning for profit pushers… I can't bury my head in the sand(again), but I do have to take a break from the onslaught of horrible truths that I know where to find since at least 3/11/11 or I will lose the ability to continue trying to live along with my soul.Seems the future of humanity and life on earth has gone about as far as it will go….

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    http://www.radiation.org/reading/08spring_ijhs_mississippi.html

    …Official data show that higher emissions in the first two years of Grand Gulf operations were accompanied by higher concentrations of various radioisotopes in local water, according to U.S. government data. These radioisotopes enter the bodies of local residents in varying ways. While it is impossible to analyze all vectors of exposure to Grand Gulf particles and gases, exposures from inhalation is expected to be highest among local residents. Any exposures from drinking water would also be highest among local residents, as all municipal water is taken from local wells. (25) Exposures from milk consumption may not reflect Grand Gulf emissions, as most locally-sold milk is produced out of state. (26) Exposures from other foods vary, as some are produced locally and others are not.

    The first two years after Grand Gulf startup resulted in significant increases in local rates of fetal deaths (+57.8%) and infant deaths (+35.3%), which rose especially rapidly for babies less than one day old (+96.6%). These changes are consistent with the large declines in local infant death rates observed near closed nuclear reactors in the first two full years after shutdown. (19) (20) Unexpectedly high mortality among the youngest in a population supports the belief that these groups are most susceptible to damage from toxins such as ionizing radiation.

    (cont.)

    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      The statistical significance of these temporal trends suggests strongly that they are not due to random chance. Moreover, they are similar to the rise in local infant mortality in the first two years after Nevada atomic bomb testing began.

      The unexpected rise in local mortality rates to fetuses and infants immediately after Grand Gulf activation should consider potential confounding factors.

      (cont.)

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    http://pbadupws.nrc.gov/docs/ML1303/ML13030A330.pdf

    …Tritium covers Phoenix in varying concentrations depending on distances from the source. Tritium entering a woman's body rapidly spreads to all locations including a fetus, if present. Tritium radioactivity can damage, or destroy a fetus and/or cause other physical damage including cancer. The amount of tritium in Phoenix shall increase with time under current release criteria. Monitoring tritium is essential for the future health of its population. The only method for controlling tritium is containment. From the EPA Tritium radiation measured in Phoenix and the findings of Dept. of Public Health for cases of Down's Syndrome and fetus deaths in conjunction with tritium radiation peaks in Phoenix, the conclusion necessitates the containment of tritium being blanketed on Phoenix.

  • Nick

    My crystal ball has grown cloudy lately. I used to pride myself on being able to peer into the future and predict stuff (I bet on solar in 1978!) but lately, all bets are off. Everyday I am confronted with new realities that I hadn’t seen coming, some good some not so good.

    Methinks my own neuronal “hormoned “ self has been altered by toxins of which I never had a chance to steer clear of.

    I just don’t have a sense of optimism that used to buoy my soul.

    Now, I am in a new phase….

    As are we all.

    Going forward I will still wage peace, but I have reconciled the fact that humans are stupider than I thought.

    It makes no sense to wage war at present.

    All hatred needs to screw itself.

    Suicide bombings are just a hint of GMI.

    DUh!

    Nothing I do, say, or think, will change our fate.

    So….live for today. Cherish the past. Forget the future we once all had.

    Cesium the day.

    There is no tomorrow.

    Now really is all we have.

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