Top Official: “Really concerned” over radiation release at US nuclear site; Feds “have put a noose around scientific personnel”… they refuse to reveal crucial information about WIPP disaster — Investigators becoming suspicious — Nuclear Expert: “It sure seems like there’s a cover-up” (AUDIO)

Published: September 6th, 2014 at 5:16 pm ET
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The Santa Fe New Mexican, Sept 6, 2014: Flynn accuses feds of blocking WIPP probe — New Mexico’s top environmental regulator lashed out at the U.S. Department of Energy this week, accusing it of impeding the state’s investigation into [the WIPP] radiation leak… Secretary Ryan Flynn warned [about] Energy Department roadblocks that have protracted the probe… Increasingly in recent weeks, the federal Energy Department has thwarted attempts by the state… Flynn accused the Energy Department of muzzling scientists with crucial information about the waste…. [They] asked for documentation supporting the scientists’ observations [but] the Energy Department has repeatedly refused… his frustration with the Energy Department grew as its denials… became more frequent… The Energy Department’s refusal to provide information raised suspicions among Flynn’s investigators…

New Mexico Environment Department Secretary Ryan Flynn, Sept 6, 2014: “The problem is that Department of Energy headquarters back in Washington, D.C., is looking at this situation through a political or (public relations) lens, so they’ve put a noose around the scientific personnel who can answer our questions… there’s a willingness (by LANL personnel) to provide information [but] someone back at headquarters decides that no, they’re not going to provide that information to the state… it happens repeatedly, that’s when you start to get really concerned… they don’t provide certain information [or] make staff available… The more we investigate, the more we’re discovering at Los Alamos… the Department of Energy headquarters refuses to provide certain information.”

Greg Mello, Los Alamos Study Group, Sept 6, 2014: “[Not sharing this information] could be a danger signal for workers and the public. Mislabeling drums and withholding information can be criminal.”

The Santa Fe New Mexican, Sept 3, 2014: Review, relabeling of LANL waste raises questions about scope of problem… [Los Alamos National Laboratory's] review of the incident has led to uncertainty over the volatility of hundreds of other drums… The lab notified state environment officials late last month that it was re-evaluating and relabeling as “ignitable” or “corrosive” the contents of 86 drums at LANL… The Department of Energy also is reviewing and relabeling more than 300… stored in WIPP’s underground… [This] raises questions about the scope of the problem that led to the leak at WIPP.

Chris Harris, former licensed Senior Reactor Operator & engineer, Aug 28, 2014 (at 22:15 in): “It sure seems like that there’s a combination of a cover-up, and a combination of slip-shot record keeping. Now there’s talk of whether they ditched those records after the fact or before the fact, but those records are nonexistent. One would expect really good records as to what is being stored, where it’s being stored, when it was put away, when it was stored, all that – every bit of information that one would expect to have in a nuclear storage facility and these are missing, there’s a lot of information.

Full interview with Harris here

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  • danger kitty danger kitty

    Criminal negligence on the part of the Dept of Energy. What more is there to say that hasn't been said here already?


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  • Proton

    Nuclear = Death via cancers… Crimes against humanity


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  • dunkilo

    Why not fudge,with hold ,change,loose,change the facts? The IRS does it ,the DOJ does it,congress does it and the prez does it!We are just following orders!We are going to give everybody a dose of evil Nuke poison !! ENJOY SHEEP!BAAAA-BAAAAA
    Not a violent man,but they sure are askin for it.


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  • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

    I'm having this problem…i can no longer distinguish between maffiosi or the energy sector , except the company name on my bills…or show on telly as good buddy's with the lawmakers..


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  • jimbob jimbob

    Probably because there is no difference.

    Except that perhaps the Maffiosi are more honest about the crimes they commit and sometimes get convicted for them.


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  • rogerthat

    “The problem is that Department of Energy headquarters back in Washington, D.C., is looking at this situation through a political or (public relations) lens, so they’ve put a noose around the scientific personnel who can answer our questions…''

    - why is it that every time there is a nuclear accident, there is a cover-up? Is this what science is about – not to discover, but to hide? Is this what officials paid by the public purse and tasked with serving the public see as their public responsibility – to cover up the truth, to prevent people from taking steps that might protect themselves and their children?


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  • name999 name999

    rogerthat, has been like this for many decades. I think the people behind the secrecy have legal and also blackmailing ways of shutting people up. People are afraid. This is big corporate $ legitimately infused into politics in a way never seen before in the U.S. thanks to our underperforming supremely fucked up court.

    The whales, the children, the citizens of Tokyo in the news today…
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/04/world/asia/dengue-fever-tokyo/index.html?
    hpt=hp_t2http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/06/health/respiratory-virus-midwest/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
    Hope these will open.


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    • rogerthat

      hi 999, yup, no need to take potassium iodide tablets, the drug industry is working on a new blockbuster, the Feelgood pill, it implants a permanent smile, works even when you're dead, so you can say little johnny died happy. And instead of screening children for thyroid cancer, Dr Feelgood will be along to give a public lecture on The Need To Be Happy and Why Anxiety Kills


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Oh, I posted the same link below. Didn't realize you had already done it. RAIDS?


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  • name999 name999

    rogerthat, this mindset is really everywhere now. This is so tragic, but to acknowledge this and try to confront it means it is just bad attitude, not being positive, not smiling. These fools and liars destroy everything beautiful in life. Even smiling. Brainwashing garbage. Makes me very angry. And to watch the whales and sea life dying off like this is beyond horrible. The major parks in Tokyo empty, children compromised by the eruption of an evolving disaster that is fiercely lethal.


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  • bo bo

    Oh.. if you need visual soundbytes
    Just found this

    John Waters meets Glee meets Carrie meets Heathers meets Night of the Living Dead meets TEPCO meets Monsanto

    Nuke 'em High

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIhxM3AufYA&sns=em


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  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    Enough is enough if we want things to change we must change

    http://inthesetimes.com/article/17079/this_changes_everything_naomi_klein_lessons1

    . Band-Aid solutions don’t work.
    “Only mass social movements can save us now. Because we know where the current system, left unchecked, is headed.”
    Much of the conversation surrounding climate change focuses on what Klein dismisses as “Band-Aid solutions”: profit-friendly fixes like whizz-bang technological innovations, cap-and-trade schemes and supposedly “clean” alternatives like natural gas. To Klein, such strategies are too little, too late. In her drawn-out critique of corporate involvement in climate change prevention, she demonstrates how profitable “solutions” put forward by many think-tanks (and their corporate backers) actually end up making the problem worse. For instance, Klein argues that carbon trading programs create perverse incentives, allowing manufacturers to produce more harmful greenhouse gases, just to be paid to reduce them. In the process, carbon trading schemes have helped corporations make billions—allowing them to directly profit off the degradation of the planet. Instead, Klein argues, we need to break free of market fundamentalism and implement long-term planning, strict regulation of business, more taxation, more government spending and reversals of privatization to return key infrastructure to public control.


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    • We Not They Finally

      Mass social movements. Yeah. Like America USED to be. Would sure like the curve to start going in a different direction, but what powerful dynamics can make that happen in this kind of deadening climate?

      And whereas Naomi Klein clearly knows what should NOT be done, this is all really surface politics. Without comprehensive knowledge of what geoengineering is doing (chemtrails, HAARP, EMPs, control even of weather reporting,) and the humongous black budgets behind much of it, this is just window dressing.

      She would obviously like the surface trappings of government to shift — as would we all — you know, Dems, Repubs, House, Congress, Supremes off the rails, puppet Presidents, and the like.

      But medically, that is likely what would be called "symptoms," and tackling "the disease" (the so-called "military/industrial complex,") is way more daunting.

      The likes of carbon credit programs is SO the least of our problems…

      Would like her (and really everyone) to check out Dane Wigington of geoengineeringwatch.org to get overviews of the multiple horrendous destructions being inflicted as we speak, apparently out of budgets which have nothing to do with what your local Congressman ever even had the chance to vote on.

      And I hate saying all this, because Naomi Klein is probably one of the more thoughtful ones out there, but if there is no attention paid to banks and international cabals and military black budgets and the CFR (etc., etc.,) this will go…


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      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        Wntf but her new book is taking about capitalism as the root , please read some of it it's brilliant , did you not learn a thing from shock doctrine ?
        Don't know about you but in the 60 we had a group consciousness we all got it and we did change things and not only by marching in the street but we shut down places we stopped them I there tracks , we have become so full of fear we have been paralized ..we must brake the shackles of fear and make sustainable communities that can support themselves ..we must boycott our bills , do what we can without air conditioning and all the fucking gadgets that have us glues to them and not to mention the fat asses created by them , let's get of our ass and spot living in fear and start to live with the hope we once had we will win , some may have to die but we will get our mojo back .
        What is the alternative watch this live and I color mesmerized ..no fucking way ..we have given the ship to them by not paying attention we must build a new one ans
        And sink the greedy motherfuckers who are poising our planet , do you think if we show them the deaths they will listen?. Do you think that they even care ? We know the problem ..we know the solution so let's get on with it .
        Like I said there will be no heros here we will collectively cosmically move to the next level in councousness do do any less is suicide

        Excuse my spelling and spell check for those of you that might miss the message by being grammar nazis


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        • Runningonlove Runningonlove

          Clamsheller, excellent rant, and all true. Time for every one of us to do our daily maximum for present dire situation awareness, with wisdom, and infinite patient love for the future of this planet. I'm just an aging musician/videographer, but I offer what I have, kind of a rant of my own, or a humble themesong for the times."Background Radiation" http://youtu.be/fvrlvn94UMk
          If you like it, please pass it on. How about a thousand people singing it in the march?!?!


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      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        Carbon credits are bullshit ..our planet is in it's death thros ..we need to stop and help Mother Earth by any means , the climate change folks have been leaving nuclear out of it , nuclear is the big elephant I the living room , if we stop everything else it still won't stop what's been done esp with nuclear still on the plate and natural gas ..we need to live a different way and teach our children well , we are running out of time .


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  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    Chris Hedges: The Last Gasp of Climate Change Liberals – Chris Hedges – Truthdig
    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_last_gasp_of_climate_change_liberals_20140831
    The march, because its demands are amorphous, can be joined by anyone. This is intentional. But as activist Anne Petermann has pointed out, this also means some of the groups backing the march are little more than corporate fronts. The Climate Group, for example, which endorses the march, includes among its members and sponsors BP, China Mobile, Dow Chemical Co., Duke Energy, HSBC, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase and Greenstone. The Environmental Defense Fund, which says it “work[s] with companies rather than against them” and which is calling on its members to join the march, has funding from the oil and gas industry and supports fracking as a form of alternative energy. These faux environmental organizations are designed to neutralize resistance. And their presence exposes the march’s failure to adopt a meaningful agenda or pose a genuine threat to power.

    Our only hope comes from radical groups descending on New York to carry out direct action, including Global Climate Convergence and Popular Resistance. March if you want. But it should be the warm-up. The real fight will come once people disperse on 11th Avenue.


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    • We Not They Finally

      That's a March for WHAT?? To all assemble in one place so as to be better co-opted??


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      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        We not finally it does not happen like that ..not to be snippy but have you been to one in NYC in the past .
        We would be fools to can ourselves in one area ..she does not mean that ..there's much planning that goes into direct actions , there will be scattered actions the cops will be going all over the place putting out fires so to speak , we have social media too .
        We know the minute to act at any given time things are streamed .please don't think people are smashing windows and rioting that's not going on ..some actions will have art some will be at intersections a lot goes into these and sure we are always co opted but shit gets done and when the week of actions are over we go home and regroup to do actions and getting the word out better ..it's like a workshop
        The whole idea is to educate the masses and the printouts and ephemera to share .
        I'm pretty sure you live in my area , I hope you can make it over in your town to see Helen Caldecott that day . And I would love to meet up with you sometime with another of our pals .
        We are all different in our approaches but what import ain't is we are moving in the fight direction wether it be key board activism or talking to family , it all counts what ever we do ..what we must learn to move from is fear , the challenge is to educate without scaring the bejesus out of the masses too . Replace fear with a win .with a hope . Please email me if you have time I think you did but I lost data rrnicosia@gmail.com anyone…


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    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      Days of Destruction, Days of Revolt by Chris Hedges and Joe Sacco at the Truthdig Bazaar
      http://freshstore.truthdig.com/days-of-destruction-days-of-revolt/Two years ago, Pulitzer Prize winner Chris Hedges and award-winning cartoonist and journalist Joe Sacco set out to take a look at the sacrifice zones, those areas in America that have been offered up for exploitation in the name of profit, progress, and technological advancement. They wanted to show in words and drawings what life looks like in places where the marketplace rules without constraints, where human beings and the natural world are used and then discarded to maximize profit. Days of Destruction, Days of Revolt is the searing account of their travels.
      The book starts in the western plains, where Native Americans were sacrificed in the giddy race for land and empire. It moves to the old manufacturing centers and coal fields that fueled the industrial revolution, but now lie depleted and in decay. It follows the steady downward spiral of American labor into the nation's produce fields and ends in Zuccotti Park where a new generation revolts against a corporate state that has handed to the young an economic, political, cultural and environmental catastrophe.


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  • ISeePinkClouds

    Yes. I am a Geologist working on a mining project very near the WIPP. I have been taking readings with my Geiger Counter, for my own protection, and charting them for others, since I arrived here several weeks ago. I do upload my Geiger readings to radmon.org, though my location is not Carlsbad, per se. I have come to disbelieve all of the press releases I have seen or heard regarding the WIPP. From my own observations, and in my humble opinion, I believe the WIPP should be abandoned, encased, entombed, monitored, and guarded immediately and from now on. I think the health of the residents around the plant should be monitored, and medical treatment provided free of cost as necessary by the owners and investors of WIPP. I think cleanup throughout this area should be completed as much as is possible, and as soon as possible. I am not anti-nuke; I am for life. peace


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    • We Not They Finally

      We were living in New Mexico when WIPP blew up, but in Albuquerque, 274 miles north of Carlsbad, and supposedly not even in the wind patterns. We noticed strange symptoms within two weeks, before we even knew what had happened. We are doing so much better JUST BY HAVING MOVED AWAY.

      We wish New Mexicans well, but for all we know, that State should be evacuated. Since we left, we sleep better, we feel better — I even had strange spontaneous bruisings on my skin that cleared up within days of leaving New Mexico.

      Even before WIPP, beta readings (according to the EPA graphs) for the area were out of sight — hundreds of CPM, with spikes even higher. Everyone who can leave New Mexico, should.


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      • ISeePinkClouds

        Yes. You were wise to move away. It is good to hear that you recovered so quickly and so completely. Radiation does so many terrible things to the human body. My daughter in Houston had her thyroid removed this past Christmas. I was in Terlingua during the initial release. The wind came from the North and the background jumped from from 20-25 to 30-35. It was 25 to 30 when I left, now six months later. It drove home the point how mobile Pu is in the environment. On Hwy 180 12 miles North of WIPP the count will go over a hundred. I have spoken to people in Carlsbad who have not heard of the WIPP, or are not aware of the danger. There are ways they can protect themselves, but they must first know there is danger. It is all hush-hush. We must do more to get the word out. Obe mentioned Dana's video has had millions of hits. I am so proud of Dana. peace


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      • ISeePinkClouds

        You are right We. All indications here on the ground are that the plume went Northwest; not Northeast as was reported. It was also reported that Pu was detected as far away as Oklahoma City. I think that goes to show how mobile Pu is. I have found hotspots in places I have been before and had found nothing. It may be due to the high mobility of plutonium, or it may due to the release being ongoing. Obviously, neither are good.


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      • jimbob jimbob

        I have had strange unexplained bruising/rashes on my forearms and legs for the past three years. I treat them with a silver solution and they go away and then return.

        I have no idea if it has anything to do with Fukushima or if it was caused by the stress I was going through at work at that time. Although I have been off work for over a year now and that stress is gone and the are still recurring.

        I live in Brentwood Bay on Southern Vancouver Island anybody else around here going through similar things?


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        • jimbob, my sympathies to you. I haven't had the unexplained bruising per se, but I think the best things I take (besides some other oxygenators, blood support and connective tissue type vitamins) are a strong gamma complex E supplement and apply arnica gel externally. I've tried a lot of health oriented things through the years and try to determine which give the most bang for the buck results and maybe you've already been doing that also. :) The silver is used by many of my friends too. So anyway, good luck and good health to you.


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      • DebbyS-AbqNM DebbyS-AbqNM

        I'm so glad you left New Mexico and found a safe, secure, radiation-free place to live and breathe clean, healthy… oh, wait.

        http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/magazine/special/nuclearmap/

        You can run but you can't hide…


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    • Shaker1

      Thanks for the insight, ISeePinkClouds.


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  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    BP will appeal $18 billion fine -that is the corporate message as people who have lost everything continue to suffer | Climate Connections
    http://climate-connections.org/2014/09/06/bp-will-appeal-18-billion-fine-that-is-the-corporate-message-as-people-who-have-lost-everything-continue-to-suffer/
    BP will appeal $18 billion fine -that is the corporate message as people who have lost everything continue to suffer
    The BP fine over the Macondo Gulf of Mexico disaster was unexpected, at least by BP. The company had put aside $3.5 billion to pay its way out of the Clean Water Act violations and has fully intended to continue business as usual. However, Federal District Court Judge Carl Barbier in his 153 page decision ruled that BP is “grossly negligent” and engaged in decisions that were “profit” rather than “safety” driven. The finding of “gross negligence” increases the amount of the fine by up to four times. If the company had been found merely negligent, the fines could be $1,100 per barrel spilled. Gross negligence ups that to $4,300 per barrel.
    BP continues to contest the amount spilled and has hired the the best science that money can buy and shady public relations advisors to convince the world that they didn’t really spill all that much oil. Expect the appeal process to focus on that. Meanwhile, according to the article below published by the Bellona Foundation, thousands of people affected by the disaster and the clean-up efforts are so sick that they will never…


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    • We Not They Finally

      And what did the U.S. government do? A big fat nothing. And odds on, the oil is still gushing from beneath the sea!

      At the time, we knew someone who had worked at BP, and someone from the inside told her that BP had "drilled a hole into the seabed." Which is what Matt Simmons was saying on national media just days before his mysterious death.

      It may never end and BP may never pay. But rather this judgment against them than not. Honestly, it's too little too late, but they should be forced to pay.


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      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_last_gasp_of_climate_change_liberals_20140831Our democracy is an elaborate public relations charade. And the longer we accept this charade the longer we will be irrelevant. Only when we understand power can we fight it. This fight must be waged on two fronts. We must disrupt the machinery of corporate capitalism and at the same time build parallel, autonomous structures for self-governance that address basic needs such as food and green energy. Capitalism, as Karl Marx pointed out, is not merely a system of economic exploitation. It justifies itself by hijacking the ruling political and economic ideologies—ideologies that buttress capitalism’s ceaseless expansion and commodification of the natural world and human beings. “The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships,” Marx wrote, “the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas.” And this makes our struggle a battle for ideas as well as a battle for power.
        This is not a battle I would have picked. I prefer incremental and piecemeal reform. I prefer a system in which we can elect politicians to represent the governed and thwart corporate abuse. I prefer a United Nations that serves the interests of people around the globe rather than corporate profit. I prefer a vigorous and free debate in the public arena. I prefer a judiciary that is not a wholly owned subsidiary of the corporate state. I prefer the freedom to express…


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  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    On Bill McKibben’s ‘call to arms’ for the New York climate summit | Climate Connections
    http://climate-connections.org/2014/07/17/on-bill-mckibbens-call-to-arms-for-the-new-york-climate-summit/#more-34065
    What kind of climate action should be taken is a question that has long been debated by climate justice activists, organizations, social movements and Indigenous Peoples all over the world for decades. “Climate action” can include things like geoengineering schemes–manmade manipulations of nature on such a massive scale that the impacts can’t possibly be known, but could definitely be catastrophic. They can also include actions already taking place, such as the building of vast hydroelectric dams that flood vast expanses of land and displace thousands of Indigenous Peoples or land-based communities. Climate action can also include ongoing grabbing of land for the development of vast plantations of oil palm, GMO soy or non-native trees for so-called bioenergy.
    So no, not all “climate action” is created equal. A lack of clear justice-based and ecologically sound demands in this “historic” march will leave a vacuum. And no vacuum remains empty for long. It’s simple physics. The media will not cover a march with no demands. They will find a message. And likely, as so often happens, those with the connections and the money will win the messaging game.
    The movement’s oddly charismatic de facto leader, Bill McKibben, is one of those I predict will get the microphones…


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    • We Not They Finally

      "Geoengineering schemes"? How about mass extincting us through massively funded control-freak programs from military black budgets?

      Please people, go to geoengineeringwatch.org and at least see the scope of the problem. Whatever we DO, if this massive ongoing destruction is not quickly UN-done, we're lost. And it's daunting to tackle.

      Wish that the so-called climate march were the call to arms. Really do. But I imagine that it is more like gathering people all in the same place to effectively CO-OPT them. Maybe like Occupy Redux.


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      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        We not finally I hope your not bashing occupy although it did get cooped
        The climate people are very well funded and if you take the time to read this you will be pissed so the middle class is being led by the fucking nose once again , but they don't have thre eyes open enough being dumbed down with gmos radiation and the list goes on ..we must teach them or leave them behind ..we do not have time to fuck around anymore we don't have time for studies of looking ..ok we see what's happening ..there will be no heros here .. We have to stand our ground and tear down the system that allowed this ..oh the eighties were great it put us all off balance while they crept in and made the mess we have today , we were easly led with money so we too are part cause but we can see that they will not let go of the corporate structure that knows no bounds ..we have to mean business and get off our fannies and stop playing nice NOW , after the march is when direct action will take place ..folks will get close to the un and get close to Wall Street again ??it may get bloody .


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      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        This is what other groups that are under the big bill mcgibbons tent ..big business ..who needs them ?? this is one of our last chances to make a stand now and after this canned march ??in your communities stop paying your fucking bills learn how not to depend on them ??it can be done , it must be done ??a world with out gadgets oh no ..


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    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      Read the author Anne peterman
      She speaks about geoenginerring
      Please read this stuff don't be so quick to jump , now your enemy
      For Christi's sake this march is a gift I disguise we will meet other much like ourselves ..if you do there will be rallies in the park on Saturday go with the ant nukers that have been around for decades the singing grannies will be there for Christ sake ..use it as a tool for the next action ..meet greet ..NIRS .org is a good one that's on the up and up and will not ever be co opted to the degree that others have we all know about cointelpro we had them up our arse many years ago


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  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    Bad news day after day after day
    Fuck the studies
    Fuck negotiation
    Let's take our world back from these mother fuckers
    Enough is enough

    Resistance will come from those willing to breach police barricades. Resistance will mean jail time and direct confrontation. Resistance will mean physically disrupting the corporate machinery. Resistance will mean severing ourselves from the dominant culture to build small, self-sustaining communities. This resistance will be effective only when we refuse to do what we are told, when we turn from a liberal agenda of reform to embrace a radical agenda of revolt.


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    • zogerke zogerke

      Clam, i know some might accuse me of being driven by fear, but what you wrote below seems not the street-smartest thing i have ever read regarding direct action or civil disobedience….or non violence for that matter…., as you give out your real address on line for others to write to you, and promote breaching police barricades and physically disrupting corporate machinery, and promote breaking the law, during the march, on this site….. Aren't there tactics of safer measure to plan whatever is being planned? And sarer communication measues? You present as a seasoned activist, you would know this…..Can't you recognize, or can't others recognize, that these posts may not be very street smart…?not for this website and not for you?

      >>>Resistance will come from those willing to breach police barricades. Resistance will mean jail time and direct confrontation. Resistance will mean physically disrupting the corporate machinery. Resistance will mean severing ourselves from the dominant culture to build small, self-sustaining communities. This resistance will be effective only when we refuse to do what we are told, when we turn from a liberal agenda of reform to embrace a radical agenda of revolt.<<<


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  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    And no I'm not sorry …


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    • name999 name999

      clams, you should not be sorry. Resistance is also posting here. It is how you make choices every day. I don't like to hit up against the police. I don't think the problem is the police. Most cops are union members and makes them a threat to fascists corporate elite wealthy 1%.
      Cops and fireman have not had the support they deserve and require from the wealthiest factors.
      The destruction of the Twin Towers in NYC was very suspicious for US military, NORAD, the top security level equipment available, yet all those cops and firefighters died in the rescue. They should have been rescued by the US military along with everyone else.


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      • We Not They Finally

        How could the military show up when Cheney was orchestrating mock exercises to divert the Air Force on that very day? But even this basic education, people seem to lack.

        Me, I admire people who are willing to go the distance. But that core of people would have to be VERY well-educated and unified and without deliberate disrupters, etc., etc. It's a tall order.


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        • name999 name999

          wntf, that is an excellent response. It was a "stand down" as they say…why?

          Cointelpro frightened people from standing together as their groups were penetrated by FBI and CIA infiltrators. That includes families and marriages. J. Edgar Hoover thought anyone that was involved with human rights, civil rights, women's rights and rights in general was a communist.


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          • clamshellernh clamshellernh

            Above photo: The Climate Group “will bring together CEOs from the world’s leading companies, heads of some of the world’s largest sub-national governments and civil society leaders, to provide a shared vision for a low carbon economy.” From http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/23/climate-week-nyc-2013_n_3975339.html

            Climate Action vs. Climate Justice: the Need for Clear Demands at the Peoples’ Climate March in New York City
            In New York City on September 21st, a major climate march is planned. It will take place two days before UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon’s UN Climate Summit–a one-day closed door session where the world’s “leaders” will discuss “ambitions” for the upcoming climate conference (COP20) in Lima Peru.

            350.org and Avaaz originally called for the march, but environmental and climate justice organizations and alliances based in the New York/New Jersey region and across the US demanded (and won) a seat at the organizing table to attempt to ensure that the voices of front line and impacted communities are heard.

            So, what are the demands of the march? There are none. That’s right. The march will simply bring together an estimated 200,000 people to march through the streets of New York and then…

            There will be no rally, no speakers, and no strong political demands. Just people showing up with the overarching message that the world’s leaders should take action on climate change. Why no solid demands? I’ve been informed by organizers that the reason this…


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            • clamshellernh clamshellernh

              Part 2
              http://www.popularresistance.org/clear-demands-needed-at-peoples-climate-march/
              There will be no rally, no speakers, and no strong political demands. Just people showing up with the overarching message that the world’s leaders should take action on climate change. Why no solid demands? I’ve been informed by organizers that the reason this march is being held with no actual demands is because we need a big tent.

              A big tent, as in, the circus is coming to town… But this tent is so big that it even includes organizations that support fracking and the tar sands gigaproject. Yup, they’re in the tent, too. Call me crazy, but I think that tent is too damn big.

              According to some of the organizers, as long as everyone agrees that climate action is needed, then it’s all good. But are all climate actions created equal? No.

              In fact, there is another entity called The Climate Group that is planning a whole week of activities around the Ban Ki-moon summit to call for “climate action.” Who is this Climate Group? They are a self-described “campaign” whose goal is a “low carbon economy.” Okay, so? Well, their idea of action on climate change includes many “solutions” debunked as false by the global climate justice movement, including carbon capture and storage, and other technologies that allow business as usual to bounce happily along while the planet slowly burns. This is not surprising since The Climate Group’s corporate partners include Duke Energy, HSBC, Goldman…


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          • name999 name999

            oh, and anti-Vietnam war rights = communist. All very American ideals with legal rights attached that have since been deconstructed and disolved.


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        • clamshellernh clamshellernh

          Wnf
          …..Me, I admire people who are willing to go the distance. But that core of people would have to be VERY well-educated and unified and without deliberate disrupters, etc., etc. It's a tall order…….

          I beg to differ yes we need central voices and we have them we have scientists we have VERY WELL EDUCATED AND UNIFIED people .

          We have the voices of the world young old educated and not

          This is not about educated for the most part

          It's about anyone who loves this planet and loves each other

          The disrupters are the government who will seek to destroy a movement from within

          We are way too big and diverse for them to win at that game at this time .


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  • My bro from Port Angeles WA and his fiancee came back to visit me overnight after a 2 day camp out at a large birthday party. He talked for hours about his own boots on the ground observations…including sky changes, garden mutations, beach changes, etc. (He doesn't get near a computer and was glad to see there are many year's of data collected in this forum and especially related to the sunset pics). His work friends pretty much won't talk radioactivity AT ALL so he's glad to know he's not alone. He says some are too young to remember normal. Half the people he knows have cancer or illnesses now.

    His garden didn't produce, none of his fruit trees bloomed, raspberries are almost non-existent and one time all plant leaves had a layer of white powder on them. (Chem trails he thought at the time.)

    The B-party we gathered at was an age mix of sustainable lifestyle type folks, some were our relatives. I overheard the guys talking about gross fish pimples and white slimey welts on trout & other fish from a pristine small lake near Tonasket where they've always fished. They'd already decided when Fuki first happened not to eat Pacific seafood ever again because of bio-accumulation in the ocean so to see it locally now has them pretty pissed. I just listened…didn't want to turn the birthday party into a horror show, there were lots of young kids present. Anyway, all of the adults are aware of health cause and effect and in private probably talk radiation more than…


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    • …I know about. We'd got into talking vitamin protocols…thyroid stuff & back ailments, bone stuff mostly. As I was leaving my son's place he came over to my car to check out my geiger counters and had seen me wandering around their property on the mountain. He asked how the readings were. About the same as mine…from 11 to 28 CPMs, some hot spots and average 0.15 uSv. They'll probably get a GC.


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      • What I took away from seeing them all was that they already learned who not not to waste time with (no time for *forcing status quo people to listen to spiels*)….most there are activists from the GM, dirty energy protests and don't rely on mass media to tell them what to do. Many are off grid and helping their friends learn. The huge outdoor off-grid Okanogan Family Faire is coming up (over 10,000 campers with acres of booths). The word will spread fast there during the 5 days and info will be reaching a lot of new people. Most have been involved with grass roots actions and focused on being the change they wish to see. Meanwhile the how to protect oneself and family against radiation is ongoing. I'm a realist…so are they. We'll do the best we can and be ready for the crazy times to get crazier wherever we make our stands.

        Peace and love to all :)


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        • clamshellernh clamshellernh

          Last chants your day warms my heart , you must be so proud to have passed on so much seed for your children , intentional communities are going to be the answer for us to move on and save what we can and brake away from the lifestyles that are killing Mother Earth . There are many doing so , in points north for me , I am seriously looking to do this as my next step .
          I've done it before but being able to live in a community of like minded folks was a hurdle that I did not have to face . While we did not life together we still bartered and shared a communal life of sorts .
          Chop wood carry water
          I'm seriously opening my self up to the universe to what it wants me to do …
          I am getting older and on MY my children they have rebelled and are eating the grapes of consumerism my family is affluent and not in the way that they give back , I do hope that they awaken soon I have planted enough seed with them that it should click in .

          Just need me a little pick up and some basic tools , take my seed collection and twirl around and point ..yup that a way..lol


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          • Aw thanks Clam…I've also got some family who function in a different dimension than the one I'd like to to jerk their lazy selfish azzes into. But, everyone comes to earth with a plan (sort of) and I have to not get in the way of their lessons (that they might not even be aware of picking)…their soul choices for this particular incarnation. The medicine wheel they spiral outward on and into, across all dimensions, seems different from mine…and I have to respect their paths. It's painful because I don't want to see them suffer and yet they've done many happy cool things I didn't have the guts to do. So we may see some surprises as this little eye blink in time plays out.

            My husband and I actually created a tenents in common 80 acre community in SW OR back in the 70's. I have to say, it was a maddening flop as far as people pulling their weight. But the group tribal feeling was amazing in spite of the personality clashes and we became better people I think, being brave enough to even try it. Ken Kesey couldn't couldn't have described better scenarios than what we threw at each other and survived, lol.

            Further….always go further than the family dysfunctions you're born into. :) No blame. No guilt. Humor is good. Love is good. Create new frequencies and own whatever happens. :)


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            • General User General User

              @Clam, @LastC
              Thanks to you both for speaking of what it will take to survive the next few years.
              As the West Coast becomes more inhospitable by the month, consider Ohio.
              So far, just a few pink cloud events. We have crickets, cicada, blue birds, gold finch, flies, Mosquito's and bats.
              I am sure this is just a temporary location, as things will get bad here sooner or later. However time spent here can be recovery from the west coast assault on your health.
              With Highest Regard to you both,
              General


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              • You're welcome General User. :) Thanks for the Ohio mention too. Late Spring start here, but we finally did end up with a few finches, bats and surprisingly a batch of Evening Grosbeaks hatched here. All were lesser numbers for sure and it was sad watching as the couple of robins stared around forlornly looking for food. Not once did I see the familiar sight of a robin holding a worm in it's beak, ready to fly back to a nest.

                I've been watching the petition sites for any new ones that are tackling the nuclear issue. Too early I think…but their are millions of experienced activist people who have signed and passed around petitions against the *big guys* on previous issues. Some achieved their goals, some didn't, but all created huge amounts of public awareness and the need for accountability and extreme change. I believe as a few more reports surface that give us some new credible *see, I told ya* facts, then we'll have additional momentum to work with.

                I just keep thinking, if there's a chance at all…the folks who live in the earliest affected areas will become shocked & noisy about what they see in their own back yards and fields and be determined to be heard. One white magic device is to be thought amplifiers for each other's mitigation ideas and strengthen the quantum field of a future that survives radiation. Whether we win or lose, it all helps the kids know we loved them and that by god, we sure did try.


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  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    http://www.popularresistance.org/calendar1/2014-09-22-flood-wall-street-action-against-climate-profiteers/
    September 22, 2014
    New York City, NY

    Website: FloodWallStreet.net

    Stop Capitalism. End the Climate Crisis.
    As world leaders meet in New York for a historic summit on climate change, communities across the globe will flood financial centers to confront the corporate and economic systems that are causing the climate crisis.

    Join a united global movement to attack the root causes of the climate crisis and build an economy based on justice and sustainability. We need climate justice. Take action in solidarity with communities on the frontlines of the climate crisis for a day of:
    Massive Coordinated Direct Actions Against Climate Profiteers. NYC Sept 22

    In financial and political centers around the world – Flood, blockade, sit-in, and shut down the institutions that are profiting from the climate crisis. Wear BLUE.

    THIS IS PART OF THE WEEK OF ACTION FOR CLIMATE JUSTICE
    September 17-24, 2014.

    Get support for your action or find one to join at the Direct Action Support Hub.
    Full Calendar of EventsClimate Justice Alliance Call To Action People’s Climate March

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  • rogerthat

    http://www.theguardian.com/science/political-science/2014/aug/29/crisis-renewal-and-the-prospects-for-science-advice-in-japan
    Public and political confidence in Japan’s science system collapsed after the devastating earthquake, tsunami and Fukushima nuclear disaster in March 2011. Tateo Arimoto and Yasushi Sato describe the process of rebuilding trust and reforming Japanese science policy …
    In March 2012, one year after the cataclysm, CRDS (the Center for Research and Development Strategy a semi-public think-tank) issued a set of proposals for strengthening scientific advice in Japan. These included securing the independence of scientific advisers, ensuring transparency of the scientific advisory process, and proper handling of uncertainty and diversity of scientific views. …
    The Science Council of Japan also took action. In May 2012, it started discussing how to create new guidelines for scientific advice, taking notice of the principles proposed by CRDS. This resulted in January 2013, in SCJ’s Statement on the Code of Conduct for Scientists, which included clauses on scientific advice and dialogue with society.
    More recently, however, Japan’s efforts at reconstructing its scientific advisory system have been losing momentum. The proposal to appoint new science advisers has not been acted upon. …
    - i think this is a good, if somewhat kind, piece, and worth reading


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  • weegokiburi weegokiburi

    An interesting blog on the stem cell research scandal in Japan.
    Maybe a bit OT but calls in to question Japan's scientific research community.
    Worth a look.
    Wonder if US is any different.


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  • rogerthat

    http://miningawareness.wordpress.com/2014/09/07/vulcangate-scotland-radioactive-emissions-higher-than-reported/
    This gives a great summary of the affair which has been dubbed “Vulcangate”:
    “Statement On Incident At Vulcan Nuclear Test Establishment
    Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs and Environment Richard Lochhead
    Scottish Parliament
    Tuesday March 11, 2014
    Presiding Officer, I would like to update the Chamber about events that have emerged concerning the Ministry of Defence’s Vulcan test reactor at Dounreay, and how these activities are regulated in Scotland.
    When we look at what has unfolded over the past few days, we see evidence of the MoD’s culture of secrecy and cover-ups when what we need is openness and transparency.
    This has to concern this Chamber, and all of Scotland.
    The MoD has on Scottish soil, and in Scottish waters, an operational test reactor; a fleet of redundant submarines awaiting dismantling; and an operational fleet of nuclear-powered submarines, four of which are Trident armed. All significant environmental hazards.
    Vulcan is the test-bed for the pressurised water reactors used in Britain’s nuclear submarines …


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    • weegokiburi weegokiburi

      Rogerthat
      Seems Scotland is no different.
      Bit out of touch with events over there.
      Have to suppose its same all over.


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    • nedlifromvermont

      Time for the Scots to stand up against the nasty British uranium whores …

      I'm half Scottish descent … Campbell of Cawdor (think MacBeth) … (interesting family history story there … how the Campbells came to claim the land of the Thane of Cawdor castle …) Cawdor became Calder … as in Calder Hall … but what's in a name?

      I'm also half English! and I resent the English part for their complicity in and responsibility for the uranium fission madness.

      None of it was necessary or a good idea … but the English Empire dies hard (ask Germany.)

      peace to my 'newser buddies!! On to NYC!!

      The Scots would be well off without England dragging them dune.


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  • jec jec

    Anyone asked WHAT kind of waste, like HIGH LEVEL waste, in the containers? The forbidden items like hot fuel rods, liquids..etc etc? Guess the wordsmithing by EPA/DOE on their documents did not cover an ACCIDENT such as happened at WIPP. They just said it would not happen, did not consider it! Really scientific! Now they don't want to admit errors and criminal dumping of high level waste in their "touted WONDERFUL" solution to nuclear waste. In a pre-election time leading up to November! Am sure in the final discovery (if allowed to be told to the public) we will find the public has been mislead and the containers have polluted the underground..and above ground with PU and other nuclear products. Note they already have gotten into the "WIPP northern TEST area"..probably to get the testing coverup done, likely the testing is somewhat illegal…


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  • weegokiburi weegokiburi

    Rogerthat.
    Might prove interesting if there is a Yes vote in the Scottish devolution referendum next week.


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  • jec jec

    DOE says 'clean up' of Hanford too expensive! Anyone watching what is going on with DOE trying to get the HANFORD community to allow them to stop cleaning up the radiation contamination in the GROUNDWATER? Bet DOE is just trying to get agreement so they can use the same 'solution' for other clean up areas. DOES says their clean up efforts to pump and clean the contaminated water..does not work. HUMMM…..bet lots of documents out there for othersides just say they will use the same process used at Hanford as their solution. Once Hanford is signed off on..the rest are just cookie cutter solutions. Or no solutions…Again the public is the one impacted..you know, the taxpayers..the bill payers for this mess..


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Just another reason to shut down the entire Nuclear Industry and to take all things Nuclear away from the DOE.

    Obviously they can not handle it.. :(


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  • Sickputer

    Latest theory…take it with a grain of salt (or plutonium)…

    SP: If the glove don't fit then they must acquit…

    "LOS ALAMOS — A glove used to process nuclear waste at Los Alamos National Laboratory and metallic residue from that process have grabbed the attention of investigators probing the cause of a radiation leak at the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant, a lab official told lawmakers Wednesday.

    A drum of waste that burst Feb. 14 at WIPP is suspected of releasing the radiation that shut down WIPP and halted shipments of waste from LANL — generated during decades of nuclear weapons development — to the underground storage site near Carlsbad. That container held a volatile mix: a lead-laden glove, highly acidic waste, organic kitty litter and trace metal residue, according to Nan Sauer, associate director for chemistry, life and earth sciences at LANL."

    http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/new-theory-wipp-leak-linked-to-glove-in-waste-drum/article_1ca42d4c-ca3c-5e85-bc35-e519f0315747.html

    SP: Sounds like OJ fantasy…


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  • mutante mutante

    The only way to remove the radiation contamination of the world, is for leading scientists to develop a Time Machine.


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    • mutante mutante

      Set it to 1939. And the rest should be pretty much self-explanatory… ;-)


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    • melting mermaid melting mermaid

      You know I suggested that a while back, St Patricks day to be exact and I got yelled at, well, as much as you can yell at somebody with typing. Apparently scientists have just resolved "The Grandfather Paradox”, and I'm not a quantum physicist, but I think that means, if you use the Everett many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, instead of the Copenhagen, you would just create a parallel universe where we didn't fuck everything up and maybe you could you could stay in that parallel universe, but this universe would still be fubar. But who knows. I spent the morning, thanks to you mutante, reading about Brane cosmology, quantum suicide and immortality, superstring and M theory, the Novikov self consistency theory, that the universe must favor improbable events to prevent impossible ones and what an amazing and wonderful thing we are all a part of. I say thing because its so much more than just a universe or a multiverse. Maybe its the tao. According to Brane cosmology the observable universe occurred when two parallel branes collided. Like a ying yang. Resonates with a lot of mythologies out there. Anyway, sorry to ramble off the cliff there. I leave you with a quote from a 17th century Japanese Zen master, "Die while your alive and be absolutely dead, Then do whatever you want; it's all good." Bunan


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      • mutante mutante

        Melting mermaid, I guess I had not read your post or I just didn't remember it. In reality, I was sort of being facetious about the Time Machine.
        I have never read anything about quantum physics.
        Now that you have brought that up, maybe I will do a little reading.
        Buenos Dias,
        :-)


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      • Angela_R

        Melting Mermaid, you could already have the following link, but if not you may find it of interest http://www.sacred-texts.com/index.htm

        I will put the following here for others to read as OT is very unstable. i have wondered about the pursuit of Space Exploration but in view of the following I tend to understand why:

        It has been established that we are been pulled towards what has been termed "The Great Attractor" It has been known for some time, for instance: https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/~dfabricant/huchra/seminar/attractor/
        Here is another link from earlier this year;
        http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2013/06/the-great-attractor-is-something-is-pulling-our-region-of-the-universe-towards-a-colossal-unseen-mas.html

        and the latest: http://www.businessinsider.com.au/r-new-map-shows-milky-way-lives-in-laniakea-galaxy-complex-2014-9

        Nothing is stationary in the Universe. The Hopi have prophecies as do others, and names like Nibiru, Planet X etc. have been used for celestial objects that exert a strong influence on earth. "The Great Attractor" may simply be a new name for an old object.

        As our gravity lessens I expect our bodies will undergo changes, in fact they probably already are and I don't mean by radiation.


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        • Angela_R

          Here is another enthusiastic report: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9qeOhJ9dbg
          We are apparently travelling at 600 klms per second towards it. However, it is travelling away from us, but at a slower speed.

          The Hopi prophecy spoke of a hope, so did a number of others…


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          • melting mermaid melting mermaid

            Thanks Angela, that was awesome. Why can't all us Laniakeans just get along? Pull together and tcb? And as far as our bodies are concerned, God doesn't seem to be too worried about them, maybe we shouldn't either. Perhaps they were just a production of our egos all along. But like William Blake said, " Eternity is in love with the productions of time. " and why shouldn't it be? It is quite a spectacle. Here's a nice poem or thought by Rumi.."I died a mineral and became a plant. I died a plant and rose an animal. I died an animal and I was a man. Why should I fear? When was I less by dying? Yet once more I shall die as man, to soar with the blessed angels; but even from angelhood I must pass on. All except God perishes. When I have sacrificed my angel soul, I shall become that which no mind ever conceived. O, let me not exist! For nonexistence proclaims, to Him we shall return. ” I've been reading this awesome old book, called Cosmic Consciousness, by Richard Maurice Bucke, M.D. I bet you would love it. Its about what you talk about. Ever heard of it?


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            • Angela_R

              Laniakeans, grouped together, joined with love. At present they are scattered.
              Rumi :) Recently I went to a talk on Persian Poetry, the topic was "Love and Devotion."

              I've heard of the book Cosmic Consciousness but have not read it. I'm not searching for answers MM, they will unfold. Will we perish? i believe some will, but not all. I see another world; a world without hardship, a world without pain. But there has to be a sorting. To think that people have been tortured, that children have been abused, that innocent suffer…

              We shouldn't worry about our bodies? Do what we can without anxiety is probably the only way to go. Perhaps that falls in with "The Biology of Belief" by Bruce Lipton, another book I have not read. Have you ever watched a sick dog as it searches instinctively for a plant… We have a mind that can probably naturally center energy on a focal point and cure, but even more than that…
              I think it will flow for you, enjoy and sing with your children.


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  • Sol Man

    The damage that has been done can not be quantified.


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  • HoTaters HoTaters

    I'm really concerned about the thousands of children who have the mysterious respiratory virus.

    Wondering if it could be related to people being (GRRRRRR) exposed to plutonium and who knows what else in the plume that has been coming out of WIPP.

    See this story:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/unidentified-respiratory-virus-hit-kids-country/story?id=25334106

    Weakened immune systems?


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  • We had one hail of a storm here in S NV. 1" hail, wind, downpour. Storm formed out of nowhere, and was gone in moments. The alert warning came out 10 minutes after the storm. So much for early warnings.

    Kick back monsoon rains brought WIPP garbage over the area today. Was too cloudy to get any sky data. Shit hit the Fan 4x in 4 years. Gulf Spill, FUFU (R3), Hanford, WIPP. Now the shit is in the wind.

    Strontium in the California sky reported last week can be seen. Images on webcams are in my library.
    Click my name for more info.


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  • rogerthat

    ''… a lead-laden glove…''
    -so where's the other glove, or did the worker only have one hand? After six months, they ''know'' there is a glove in a container that is too radioactive to approach. So if they know the precise inventory of each and every drum, they must know where the other glove is. Are there more of these gloves in other drums? I think we should be told lol


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  • rogerthat

    http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2014/09/07/3141742_advisory-board-questions-hanford.html?sp=/99/900/&rh=1

    Advisory board questions Hanford reactor cleanup proposal
    Annette Cary, Tri-City Herald September 7
    The Hanford Advisory Board remains concerned about the thoroughness of proposed final plans for the first of the Hanford reactor areas on which environmental cleanup is being completed.

    In one spot near the former plutonium-production F Reactor, contamination is not projected to dissipate for 264 years if the Department of Energy follows its preferred plan to allow it to naturally dissipate, according to the board, which met Thursday and Friday in Pasco.

    It is one of 15 waste sites with contamination deeper than 15 feet in the ground near F Reactor along the Columbia River…

    The final cleanup proposal for the area around F Reactor is being scrutinized by the board and other interested groups as a document that is likely to set the tone for the cleanup around all nine of the Hanford reactors that produced plutonium during World War II and the Cold War…


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  • rogerthat

    … Most cleanup at F Reactor has been completed over the last two decades, with 2 million tons of contaminated material removed. DOE and its regulators now are considering what remaining work should be done…

    DOE is proposing a soil cleanup plan that would … rely partly on controls to prevent some remaining contamination from being disturbed for what the board said is as long as 264 years and natural attenuation of chemical and radionuclides. That could include processes such as biodegradation, dispersion, dilution and radioactive decay.

    The proposed plan would prevent some use of Hanford land and resources, board members said.

    "Keeping people from using valuable groundwater and sites alongside the Columbia River at Hanford is not a cleanup plan," said Gerald Pollet, executive director of Heart of America Northwest. "People will be exposed to dangerous contamination, including tribal members exercising their treaty rights to live along and fish along those shorelines."…
    - lots of detail, worth reading in full


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  • rogerthat

    http://blogs.seattletimes.com/northwestvoices/2014/09/07/conflicted-about-a-memorial-park-at-hanford/
    September 7, 2014 at 7:03 AM
    Conflicted about a memorial park at Hanford
    Posted by Letters Coordinator
    Kathleen Flenniken’s guest column [“Make Hanford part of a Manhattan Project District national park,” Opinion, July 4] regarding the possible preservation of the Hanford Project under the auspices of the National Park Service leaves me with a profound sense of ambiguity. I affirm both the desire to forget what happened there and the need to preserve the memory of it in perpetuity.

    My step-daughter had her thyroid removed at the age of 9 as her family often swam down-river from the Hanford project. I recall reading that thyroid cancer around Richland was called “the Hanford disease.” …
    Graham Hutchins, Port Angeles


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  • rogerthat

    http://koin.com/2014/09/05/hanford-vapors-dont-reach-exposure-limits/
    44 Hanford workers received medical evaluations for possible exposure to chemical vapors
    By The Associated Press
    Published: September 5

    …Since spring, 44 Hanford workers have received medical evaluations for possible exposure to chemical vapors from the waste held in Hanford’s underground tanks.
    The Tri-City Herald reports Friday that all have been cleared to return to work.
    The Energy Department says an analysis of 3,200 samples collected by monitors worn by workers found just 19 that showed chemicals present at more than 1 percent of the occupational exposure limit. There were no samples collected with chemicals at more than 50 percent of the federall exposure limit…


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  • rogerthat

    http://www.thedalleschronicle.com/news/2014/sep/06/inslee-no-hanford-delay/

    RICHLAND, Wash. (AP) — Gov. Jay Inslee and Attorney General Bob Ferguson said they will not extend Friday’s deadline for resolving a dispute with the U.S Department of Energy over cleanup of the Hanford Nuclear Reservation, the nation’s most polluted nuclear weapons production site.

    #The state has agreed to extend the deadline twice already since negotiations began in March.

    #The state now has 30 days to file a motion in federal court, or reach an agreement with the Energy Department…

    Under a 2010 consent decree, the Energy Department has deadlines to build a plant to treat Hanford’s most dangerous radioactive wastes, and to retrieve wastes contained in single-walled tanks. Since 2011, the Energy Department has repeatedly told the state it cannot meet those deadlines.

    #Hanford for decades made plutonium for nuclear weapons, and the wastes are left over from that work. The state has threatened to take the department back to court in an effort to get the decades-long cleanup back on track. The cleanup costs taxpayers about $2 billion per year…


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  • jec jec

    Wonder when the public gets told, we cant clean up the radiation mess. Moving contaminated material from one spot, like Hanford, to another spot, like WIPP, is NOT decontamination. Its a shell game, radiated another group of people, Hanford AND WIPP citizens. The US government needs a better mouse trap..and a bigger one. AND a moratorum on nuclear power.


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  • rogerthat

    Rod Adams spots a magic wand and whoosh goes WIPP. Donkeys don't bury their poo, why should we?

    Is it really necessary to have a deep geologic repository for used nuclear fuel?
    Rod Adams · September 5 · 71 Comments''.

    ..About a week ago, the NRC (Nuclear Regulatory Commission), issued a final rule that provides the technical basis supporting a decision quit working on a geologic repository, even though it does not say that as clearly as I just did. After a great deal of analysis, public interaction, and thought, the Commission approved a rule called “Continued Storage of Spent Nuclear Fuel,” SECY-14-0072.

    The rule has an associated Generic Environmental Impact Statement (GEIS) that has determined that the potential environmental impact of continued surface storage of used nuclear fuel over the short-term, long-term, and indefinite future is small.
    Chairman MacFarlane wrote the following perceptive statement in her comments about her vote on the rule.

    ''In essence, the GEIS concludes that unavoidable adverse environmental impacts are 'small' for the short-term, long-term, and indefinite time frames for storage of spent nuclear fuel. The proverbial 'elephant in the room' is this: if the environmental impacts of storing waste indefinitely on the surface are essentially small, then is it necessary to have a deep geologic disposal option?''
    Almost exactly right! We should ask hard questions of those who maintain that “deep geologic disposal is…


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  • rogerthat

    http://miningawareness.wordpress.com/2014/09/08/independent-radiation-monitoring-in-nw-what/
    (this first appeared in Radiation Free Lakeland)
    Radiation Free Lakeland are lobbying for independent radiation monitoring in the North West. This used to be carried out by Radiation Monitoring in Lancashire – RADMIL – which was disbanded a few years ago due to council cuts.

    Multi-national private companies taking on lucrative government contracts to “decommission” nuclear plants are essentially self regulating, such as the landfill at Lillyhall which accepted “non exempt” 3 bags of low level and one bag of intermediate level waste from Sellafield. The Environment Agency said they were satisfied that the company running the landfill was “unaware” of Sellafield’s actions. So no prosecution against the private company was made. The Environment Agency are the government body policing radioactive releases to the environment. They are being crafted to become increasingly a watchdog that does not bark, or even look.

    Please write to the Chief Scientist at Lancashire County Scientific Services: scientificservices@lancashire.gov.uk

    and cc to…


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  • rogerthat

    http://miningawareness.wordpress.com/2014/09/08/impacts-to-norway-from-sellafield-uk-accident-could-be-worse-than-chernobyl/
    Monday, September 8

    A study undertaken by the Norwegian government, several years ago, modelled a hypothetical accident at Sellafield and found the impacts could be seven times more severe than Chernobyl for Norway. Norway was severely hit by Chernobyl. Lambs, reindeer and goats would be especially badly hit. The study only examined impacts on the land and not for the fisheries. Even without an accident, Norwegian waters are impacted by the radionuclides still ejected into the Irish Sea by Sellafield. They are also impacted by the UK Dounreay facilities in Scotland.

    Short abstract from the Norwegian Government’s “Consequences in Norway after a hypothetical accident at Sellafield – Predicted impacts on the environment, 2010“:
    “This report deals with the environmental consequences in Norway after a hypothetical accident at Sellafield. The investigation is limited to the terrestrial environment, and focus on animals grazing natural pastures, plus wild berries and fungi. Only 137Cs is considered. The predicted consequences are severe – in particular for mutton and goat milk production.” …


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  • Angela_R

    Try this one. OT? At least they appear to be aware of an oxygen shortage
    "Mystery in the Sky: Runaway Plane With Pilot Appearing to be Unconscious". http://news.yahoo.com/video/mystery-sky-runaway-plane-pilot-005006416.html

    Still waiting for more up to date atmospheric data. I have attempted to locate it; maybe it is available somewhere.


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  • cedar cedar

    I was just looking at WIPP on Google Earth. There are a lot of ponds containing various colours of "stuff" but I also noticed all the oil or gas wells in the area – sorry I don't know my wells well lol

    This may be a stupid question but wouldn't the oil or gas become contaminated too?

    Just wondering.

    Hey is it time for my morning gin yet? Just kidding.

    Peace. Love. Laughter.


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