Published: May 9th, 2012 at 7:53 am ET
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Coast to Coast AM
John B. Wells
May 5, 2012
“As of 2006, the show attracts an estimated 4.5 million listeners every night, making it the most listened to late night show in North America.” -Wikipedia
Published: May 9th, 2012 at 7:53 am ET
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I do believe that Coast to Coast AM John B. Wells May 5, 2012 is full of shit the pofessor never said adults in japan should eat contaminated food I do believe he said that those who advanced nuclear power should eat the contaminated foods this is how the media twists words to make their story strong
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I posted what was nearly his exact words yesterday. He said adults who accepted nuclear power should be forced to eat the contaminated food. Unless that's a mistranslation, it appears he meant those who tacitly accepted nuclear power are included in the group to be held accountable.
Didn't hear anything about those adults who advanced nuclear power being the ones who should be forced to eat the food.
I think he meant all the adults (the generations of adults) who accepted the advancement of nuclear power should also be accountable.
Harsh. but that is, I think, what he said. See what I posted in comments yesterday for a word for word trascription, directly from the translator.
His point was the children are the ones who are innocent, and should get whatever food is uncontaminated or less contaminated. (He said all the food is now contaminated.)
The injection of the word "atone" is a bad idea, though. It adds a flavor of sin and judgment to the statements that Mr. Koide did not intend. It gives it religious overtones, which IMHO is a bad idea and was not Mr. Koide's intent.
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Ace33, your statement was fairly accurate after all ….
What I meant by Koide's not saying adults who advanced nuclear power should eat the food is this …. His comment about the adults was, the adults who accepted and promoted nuclear power should eat the "relatively contaminated" food. He was creating a heirarchy, with the most contaminated food going to TEPCO and the government and academics promoting nuclear power (as examples), and the least contaminated food going to the children.
It was meant to be a scathing indictment of the nuclear industry and the government. Would I have made such a scathing indictment publicly, in his shoes? Possibly, if we accept the level of sickness and death apparently caused by radiation there (uncensored news from Japan).
Translation from Koide's statements (from earlier post):
"The first one is that the people who advance nuclear power be made to eat the extremely contaminated food. People like the managing directors of Tokyo Electric, or the members of the parliament; the academics who promoted nuclear power. I'd like to build a system which feeds them with contaminated food.
But that's not enough. I also have a proposal that the relatively contaminated food be fed to the generation of adults who accepted and have promoted nuclear power and that the relatively uncontaminated food be fed to the children. That can't be done unless we have an accurate understanding of which food is contaminated and which isn't."
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Please be clear I'm not taking a position on this! However, I do agree the least contaminated food should be reserved for the children. They (and arguably the elderly with weaker immune systems), and pregnant women are the most vulnerable, and should have the greatest degree of protection.
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@HoTaters: everything aside, your post is brilliant in its objectivity…
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Agreed – well stated too.
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The basic suggestion in "radioactive situations" is to give the children the uncontaminated food.
The statement about nuclear supporters eating contaminated food was an emotional response. IMHO.
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grant wright
8:51 AM (0 minutes ago)
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http://enenews.com/japan-expert-longer-clean-safe-food-after-fukushima-radiation-spread-around-planet-people-advanced-nuclear-power-be-made-eat-extremely-contaminated-food-video
Maybe you should do some research on the topics of your shows before you quote professors from japan claiming they say all Japanese adults should eat contaminated foods when they clearly stated that people that advance nuclear power should eat contaminated foods.
Maybe just maybe you have a problem with the Japanese as a whole or you clearly have backing in the nuclear industry to be spouting such lies over the open air.
I have sent this email to John B and coast to coast radio as well
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Wkae up you ding bat….Mr. Wright you and your family are eating radioactive food too with or without the guilty feelings….
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look i know whats going on in the food chain Ive been here for awhile fact of the matter is you have no right insulting me I live in port hope Ontario the low level radioactive waste site in Canada from the Elderado plant back in the day I've been fighting locally for years to get nuke plants like darlington shut down my thing with john is he quoted the professor wrong
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maybe you should read the comments again I never said the food chain was untouched
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ACE please accept my apologies i was reacting to Mr. Wells' comments, and wrote incorrectly.
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Unfortunately all of us, in the northern hemisphere at least, are eating and drinking and breathing radioactive particles on a daily basis from what I have read. So cheer up everybody, ain't none of us gonna escape this world alive! Worrying about how or when you are going to die is an absolute waist of time. Spend time doing what you truely enjoy. If you live 1 more day, or 10,000 you won't regret enjoying what time you do have left.
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At about 1:15 he says they had 50 or so NPPs, "they obviously needed them."
OBVIOUSLY, I would disagree with that statement. Seeing as they have went from over 50 NPPs to zero and they still have power.
I say it's 'obvious' how we've all been bamboozled with regards to the risks and costs of Nuclear Death Machines.
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we are still chewing on Windscale and Chernobyl here… we are kept on the limit at all times. No need for toppling us over the edge with yet more fallout. Nobody should have to be forced to eat poisonous (radioactive) foods but the criminal organisations aka nuclear power industry and politicians should be tried for their crimes after they have brought their jobs to a conclusion, which means they should do everything within their power now, regardless of any personal gain or cost. once they have initiated the stabilisation of the situation their careers should end and they should be tried in front of a court just like an engineer would who built a bridge which collapses and kills a lot of people. (manslaughter at least as people in those positions clearly got a duty of care). even by admission of TEPCO several people died due to lack of adequate accident prevention.
in all this, i am missing the aspect of justice and making people eat poison is not justice in my eyes, its vengeance.
seriously it is our generation who let this happen, it should be our generation who start to build at least a slight future for your children and their children…
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Hi snowwy, how are things at Hinkley?
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BreadAndButter, it is all fine fine fine, as long as we smile and nobody is in danger of course
Have not heard much apart from that it operates at 70% of full capacity. I was very worried about the French power station fire, which is just a hop, skip and a jump from our location. the day when there was trouble my daughter had the first ever migraine with the whole being sick and all and i have a low level feverish feeling pretty much ever since.. my doctor said, nothing to worry about, it is due to my weak immune system. well, still better than what happened to 5 of my friends when i was a teenager… they all died from leukemia … our neighbour's child pulled through though.. that was in germany, downwind from kalkar.
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Hey snowwy, I'm sorry to hear about your friends and family. Everyone suffers…I was 12 when Chernobyl blew up and currently live 50 km from Cattenom, which shuts itself down once a month on average.
I follow quite closely the Guardian's reader's comments on nuke-related articles. I get the Impression that the average population is again ahead of the govmt.
*no nukes
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Snowwy, I am so sorry and frankly, shocked to hear the story about so many of your childhood friends succumbing to leukemia.
I can't imagine how traumatic that must have been for you. I know of some girls here who lost one of their best friends to a brain tumor when she was in elementary school. They are still affected by the loss of their friend to this day (they're teens now.)
It is so obvious that radiation exposure has been killing our children, adults, and animals for a very long time now. Only a person lacking a heart or conscience would fight to keep nuclear power going.
We need to shut them all down now!
P.S. I hope your daughter is felling better now.
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yes, WATK, we do not know what caused what and we can only speculate. I personally would say the many cases of leukemia was pretty much a direct result of living down wind of a NPP.
that all said, I find the thought to force somebody to eat contaminated food, no matter how ruthless they were in return an act of pure vengeance which to me is a prolonged death penalty. It would be a "punishment" that may feel very direct and very just but I think we should be more civilised than that. I could say that I am not guilty about allowing the nuclear power industry to continue to build those power stations… after all, I joined in protesting against them since the tender age of around 13 or 14. But the honest truth is, that I did not do all I could have done to try and stop it all. I sat on my behind and put too many electrical appliances on, while dreaming of getting the opportunity to actually generate my own electricity. In my mind the rule applies, we are all to blame (or at least most of us) be it at a lesser or a greater degree of the whole misery that we live in now (economic or politics or environmentally). We could have all done more, yet we have not and as such we should take on board the responsibility to pressure our (mostly elected) politicians to now speak in our behalf. The time should have arrived to demand that those who lead us do it for our own good and not for their own gain.
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Again, making those responsible eat contaminated food is a cruelty we, as the "developed" nations should not be able to afford. We should live up to our own morals and we should not let those who cause mass deaths through nuclear power get away with (literally) murder.
Yet we have been living in utter luxury and we did not only enjoy it, we started to take it for granted. In amongst the people I call friends and family, I am about the only one who said that I would not mind living with a power blackout daily for a couple of hours if it meant that we would not need nuclear power anymore. And my very close and dear friend said to me that he thought that it would not be necessary as we could have insisted even decades ago that the products we use are a lot less heavy on the demand for electricity.
The point I am trying to make is that, even if we here have never liked the idea of nuclear power, we have not done everything that we could to end it and the solution to simply kill those who we have allowed to exploit us, the environment, the people etc is making it too easy for us in my humble opinion.
Maybe it would be the time to consider to show civil disobedience and I remember the phrase "was waere wenn es krieg waere und keiner geht hin" (what if it were war and nobody went). Grass roots revolutions are a long and cold road but in my opinion the only truly human and right way to assume OUR responsibility. and not to pass the blame to those who were acting in our…
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stead…
I have not go the answers but i but got the questions
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