Top British Paper: Massive explosion believed to have damaged nuclear facility in Iran -Sources

Published: January 28th, 2013 at 12:01 pm ET
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Title: ‘Blast’ at Iranian nuclear facility
Source: The Times of London* (via The Australian)
Author: Sheera Frenkel
Date: January 29, 2013 12:00AM
h/t pcjensen

A MASSIVE explosion is believed to have damaged Iran’s Fordow nuclear facility, which is being used to enrich uranium, Israeli intelligence officials say.

Sources in Tel Aviv said yesterday they thought the explosion happened last week. The Israeli government is investigating reports that it led to extensive structural damage and that 200 workers had been trapped inside.

Israel believes the Iranians have not evacuated the surrounding area. It is unclear whether that is because no harmful substances have been released, or because Tehran is trying to avoid sparking panic among residents. [...]

One Israeli official said: “We are still in the preliminary stages of understanding what happened and how significant it is.” He did not know, he added, whether the explosion was “sabotage or accident”, and refused to comment on reports Israeli aircraft were seen near the facility at the time of the explosion. [...]

*Wikipedia: By June 2012 The Times’ average daily circulation had fallen to 400,120 copies, compared to The Daily Telegraph’s 573,674, with the two retaining respectively the second-highest and highest circulations among British “quality” newspapers.

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116 comments to Top British Paper: Massive explosion believed to have damaged nuclear facility in Iran -Sources

  • behappy1

    If a nuke plant blew up in the middle of nowhere
    would it make a sound

    This story is truly sick, nothing more then an opinion poll
    keep floating that ballon
    ? How would the world react if we SABOTAGE a nucular facility

    then place the blame

    Israel believes the Iranians have not evacuated the surrounding area

    Point being, see how bad those Iranians are

    this explosion may not have happened, but odds are, it will


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    • Auntie Nuke

      We all need to be aware of disinformation being put forth as news. If there were this kind of an accident, wouldn't a radiation spike be forthcoming somewhere in the world? Yet we have no word of it.

      There's a book I suggest we all read: "Trust Me, I'm Lying" by Ryan Holiday. It's how small blogs are gamed to create mainstream media "news" based on disinformation and planted items. It is both a cautionary tale and a how-to book. Holiday did it in fairly benign arenas, like building the American Apparel brand and some authors. But this hasn't-died-yet and is-now-being-picked-up unsubstantiated story reeks of his kind of manipulation.

      I fell for this story on Nuclear Hotseat two weeks ago and regret having jumped for it. Without independent verification, I'm skeptical that this is for real.


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      • Anthony Anthony

        Yes its tricky times. There is much going on and even possibly not going into the news at the moment. Its hard to know what to believe but your idea of watching levels is wise. More edgy for me is the reality that the Middle Eastern beehive is all but busting out, a little more everyday, more than it has my whole lifetime. This Iran issue, if sabotage, makes sad sense time wise as it seems an attack of some sort is becoming imminent before our eyes. World wide attention has certainly been cast in a direction.


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      • aigeezer aigeezer

        Nice post, Auntie Nuke.

        Goofy anomaly – the dead tree edition Ryan Holiday book is available from Amazon in Canada (where I live) for about $18, and they tease me with a separate listing for a kindle edition with fine print that says "This title is not available for your country."

        I'm thinking that if even the Masters of the Internet Retail Universe can't master little 21st century issues like that, then… the clumsy big government/industry bureaucracies should leave a huge trail when they try their hand at manipulating new media – and they do, so far. They will get much better at it over time, so the people who are routinely suckered at this early stage may be completely in thrall in the future.

        If there ever was a best time to learn how to reason, then it was fifty years ago. The next best time is right now.

        Sharks swim in all the media waters, swim with care folks.


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        • ConnectingDots

          Nuclear weapons….

          Brought to the world courtesy of the 'Atoms for Peace' program.

          What a horrific historical mistake the 'Atoms for Peace' program was/is.

          Look at just today's headlines. Everyone is flexing their nuclear muscles:

          - India is testing a nuclear-capable missile
          - China + US are conducting missile defense tests
          - France deployed troops to Niger to protect their uranium mines
          - North Korea threatening to conduct nuclear test
          - Iran

          Again, this is just today's headlines.

          Yeah, that 'Atoms for Peace' program sure brought a lot of peace and love to the world.


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    • gottagetoffthegrid

      This wasn't a power plant. It is an enrichment facility.
      So it's just uranium, mostly U238

      The us air force probably vaporizes more uranium in a single anti tank sortie than burnt here — assuming it actually happened.


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  • PavewayIII PavewayIII

    The explosion is suppose to have taken place last Monday. Iran met with the IAEA last Thursday and Friday in Tehran in failed negotiations over Parchin inspections.

    IAEA: Iran is testing some king of nuclear detonators (triggers) at a secret facility in Parchin; we want to inspect it, Iran says 'no'.

    IRAN: The former Iranian Shah paid the U.S. $12B in a secret deal to help it complete some nuclear 'projects' a while back, inluding the completion of eight nuclear reactors. The U.S. is hostile *now* because U.S. companies are not involved and they want the highly profitable nuke business back. [My take: Maybe war is the ultimate market capturing tool for the collapsing U.S. nuke industry?]

    This was reported by the very conservative WND (usually not inclined to report "U.S. is evil" news), so it has some marginal credibility in that sense:

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/covert-op-to-target-irans-nuclear-plants/


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      "marginal credibility" PavewayIII? It's consider, by many, as being nothing more than a neo-con rag. That fact this story's being carried by Drudge, says volumes…


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      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        I don't know, AS. Neo-cons are certainly pro-nuke and anti-gun, and Drudge is against gun control. And certainly gun control is a major divider between the two sides.

        WND, well, they're pro-Israel, certainly, but again, WND is against gun control, while the neo-cons are all for it. Remember that neo-cons are essentially old Russian communists that aren't happy with the way things turned out – they didn't get put in charge. So they came to the US and Europe to finish what they started. They got the EU, and now we got Obama and the NDAA.

        Hard to say who's who these days.


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        • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

          actually, Time Is Short, it's not difficult to determine where people are coming from. My litmus test is whether another supports the interests of their nation above another. This doesn't mean you must dismiss the needs of others, or the world about you; just that you recognize that your house must first be put-and-kept in order, before insisting such conditions on others….


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          • Time Is Short Time Is Short

            Isn't is always about whether a country should become something else, or stay the way it was?

            Or move towards complete universal totalitarian rule, which seems to the the course we're all on.

            The plutonium is already in our lungs, has been for almost two years. The only thing worse now would be total global nuclear bomb annihilation. Is that where we're headed?

            Priority analysis, people.


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      • PavewayIII PavewayIII

        @AFTERSHOCK – That's kind of the point. 'Neo-con rags' are the least likely place to find hints of the next U.S. nuclear industry lives-for-market-share campaign. That's not the primary subject of the article, but I was just surprised to see them mention the specific content of the documents Iran threatened to publish *because* they're WND. The documents themselves are not much of a threat to the American nuclear industry. Nobody will be surprised and they will only be covered in the European press anyways.

        I'm not suggesting WND has gained a measure of credibility here. Just that they typically wouldn't fabricate or spin facts that work against them.


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  • papacares papacares

    something has happened somewhere, just follow the rad-station reports


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  • PavewayIII PavewayIII

    I have no opinion on whether the explosion took place or not. The powers that be can 'supply' proof either way depending on what they want the public to think.

    A possible motive for the U.S. or Israel to suggesting a successful act of sabotage is to build up more lies to support nonsense about Iran planning to attack someone. If you're going to create a false flag about a bogus Iranian attack somewhere, you have to build up the public's expectation that Iranians are outraged over this sabotage and this drove them over the edge to attack someone somewhere.

    They've been greasing the skids all along for this supposed Iranian attack. Iran has nothing to gain and everything to lose by a military offensive. Nobody is that crazy. On the other hand, the U.S. or Israel would have the perfect opportunity to defend themselves or their interests (= attack Iran). Not to take it over, but to topple the current leaders and put in more 'Western friendly' ones.


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    • behappy1

      Paveway, why do you hate amerika so
      lol

      They've been greasing the skids all along for this supposed Iranian attack.

      and yes one would have to be blind to not see that


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      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        I don't think Paveway really hates America, behappy1, but a billion or two others do.

        Their lungs aren't full of plutonium like ours are, so we've only got about 5 years to figure out what to do about all this.


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      • PavewayIII PavewayIII

        "…and yes one would have to be blind to not see that…"

        That obvious, huh? I bet I could stop a hundred people on the street in your Amerika and have three or four have any idea what I was talking about.

        Rootin' for America like it's your favorite football team seems to be the way to go. It keeps you out of FEMA camps. Better yet, it lets you blissfully ignore the mountains of dead civilians, abject misery and criminally-corrupt 'replacement governments' we leave behind every time we tried to play hero in the last half-century. We suck at rescuing *anybody – anywhere* for democracy and we usually fail anyways. I know… soooooo negative. From now on:

        Go, TEAM AMERICA!


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        • behappy1

          Man you people are sensitive,
          Amerika was the point Time is Short, AMERICA is almost history.

          It is obvious, if one bothers to look.
          I agree with you Paveway
          Most haven't got a clue, and some just don't care.
          But that doesn't hide anything. The goal of this story remains
          To demonize Iran plain and simple.

          One would think the explosion would be the story, but its not
          its all about Iran


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      spot-on analysis PavewayIII…


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  • VanneV anne

    Was it the Iranians who deliberately leaked news of the explosion to keep out international inspectors?

    Is Iran's mystery nuclear explosion too good to be true?
    “…The Fordow facility is, of course, a vital part of Iran's nuclear weapons programme. Constructed some 300 feet under a mountain, the complex is immune from attack by even the most sophisticated bunker buster bombs. And it is here that Iran is undertaking some of its most sensitive nuclear research, where an estimated 2,700 centrifuges are enriching uranium to 20 percent – just short of the level required to build a nuclear warhead.
    “It could be that the Iranians have deliberately leaked news of the explosion to prevent officials from the International Atomic Energy Agency from making one of their routine inspections. On the other hand the Israelis, who have never officially admitted responsibility for assassinating a number of Iranian nuclear scientists, may think it prudent to keep quiet about any involvement they might have had in the explosion for fear of provoking retaliation from Tehran….”
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2013/01/fordowNuclear_2463952b.jpg


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  • VanneV anne

    Explosion in Iran on Saturday, 26 January, 2013 at 05:04 (05:04 AM) UTC.
    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_summary&edis_id=EX-20130126-38002-IRN

    This link thanks to Johnny Blade on the General Discussion Forum.


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  • kez

    Whitehouse does not believe story is credible.
    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSW1E8MD01U20130128?irpc=932

    Only sources from Israel so far are claiming this story to be true. (UK papers are quoting a Tel Aviv source).

    Iran denies and claims propaganda to disrupt upcoming talks.

    Russia silent. (That's interesting.)

    Here's another interesting piece mentioning the bunker busting bomb tech needed to take out such a facility since Iran apparently has superior concrete.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/massive-explosion-reported-at-irans-fordow-nuclear-facility-2013-1


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    • VanneV anne

      I guess you missed (intentionally?) this report, which I posted and referred to above:

      “…[Google translation] Now, the ‘Welt am Sonntag’, however, has received from an Iranian intelligence service contacts with experts confirmed that the explosion had actually happened…
      http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article113155950/Experte-meldet-schwere-Explosion-in-Atomanlage.html


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      • kez

        Hi anne … yes I did skip intentionally the above link. I can't read German but from scanning it and the names mentioned it doesn't appear to offer any major new insight.

        I agree with AS about the source WND.

        The Birthers created a rabbit hole and had their 15 minutes of fame. Apparently some of the Israelis fell into the hole.

        So we have yet another tin hat parade for now. And until there is some credible intelligence (and even you cannot possibly believe the west's spy sats etc aren't watching Fordo 24/7) the conspiracy theorists will run this ad nauseum …

        BTW … have I mentioned how much I hate this tin hat shit recently?

        It's dangerous. And creates endless unprovable arguments based on one rabbit hole after another. And it is a useless brain energy waste that should be used to solve actual problems not fringe distractions … but I am aware that the focus of this site has shifted; many would prefer that WW3 has begun w this story or proving that the world is done for anyway.

        If Russia had spoken up re the story … like I said … interesting. I will watch for a response from them.

        While there are so many dire things in this world, I for one like to find a little relief without getting trapped in the rabbit holes.

        http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/01/28/how-israeli-government-officials-fueled-a-conspiracy-website-story-about-iran.html


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    • richard richard

      always glad to someone can break it down. thanks kez for keeping it real.

      this really does sound like an isreali spin story. who knows why they are doing it, but they certainly are the source, and therefore the spin doctor, of the story(ies).

      no wonder i don't trust the isreali's,… they kill people on board ships in international waters, they think their above the law and go about assasinating people. They really are a hive vultures, very obscene. The isrealis are not to be trusted. A very devious lot.


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      • aigeezer aigeezer

        The author of the original story is an American expat Iranian and (former?) CIA agent, according to the first Enenews story on the 27th and the author's own website.

        http://enenews.com/report-of-huge-explosion-at-nuclear-facility-in-iran-major-news-networks-dismiss-claim

        "Perhaps it’s the identity of the report’s author which leads to the disbelief: Reza Kahlili, an Iranian exile with an interesting past who is well known to many reporters covering intelligence and Iranian affairs."

        The story reeks of disinformation. Google "Reza Kahlili" for a completely different perspective on the source. Among other things, you'll find him touting his book about his CIA adventures:

        http://atimetobetray.com/

        Israel's involvement is as murky as anyone else's so far, it seems. I am astonished that an article from this kind of "private citizen" source is taking on such a vivid life in the media. How could such a person possibly know what he claims to know – he says he is a private citizen living in California – that's a very long way from the scene.


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      • kez

        Hi other self Richard. :)

        Thanks but just to be clear; I agree with the article below. WND first propogated this rabbit hole story not Israel. But more than a few Israeli sources jumped on board supporting wo confirmation … and at least one high ranking Israeli official fell in the hole too. I am not suggesting there was complicity at inception.

        http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/01/28/how-israeli-government-officials-fueled-a-conspiracy-website-story-about-iran.html

        It's a subtle point I know. Given the provacative tensions tho … White House denies and this could be a testy point re us/israel relations.

        But as I said … IMO this site has changed … it isn't a news site anymore. Most here would prefer to see WW3 start to prove their own views. Most would prefer to prove that our world is done in than look for middle ground hope.

        I don't know certainly all the answers … but increasingly am finding that I can find the same headlines on other sources … and the comments … more and more conspiracy theories I choose to avoid. I am completely responsible for my own choices and actions here … no blame to anyone. :)

        Take care OK?

        OK just had 10 texts from clients come in … gotta go. :)


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    And we have no idea if the jet stream is being "further contaminated" with radiation. Wonderful times we live in.


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  • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

    CTBTO sure would/does know.. only, they no longer tell much..

    We thought this organization was one to inform populaces of coming danger.. no, that is incorrect. Although tax payers of many nations pay for this organization to identify and report fall out, this organization will only release their information to the governments of those that have paid them to do their job, and it occurs these governments only use the information to justify using further tax dollars to kill neighbors..

    If you have not been to their site, it is worth a look around.. be sure to look at the member payments.. or how much each country is paying.. in tax dollars for this service, that we average citizens have no access to. OUTRAGEOUS!


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  • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

    or more accurately The Preparatory Commission for the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organization (CTBTO)

    The Preparatory Commission for the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organization (CTBTO)was set up in 1996 with its headquarters in Vienna, Austria. It is an interim organization tasked with building up the verification regime of the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty (CTBT) in preparation for the Treaty's entry into force as well as promoting the Treaty's universality.


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  • nedlifromvermont

    ah yes. the United States, …

    where a federal judge told Vermonters that they were not even allowed to discuss Safety Issues of nuclear power …

    … no shit …

    … not even ALLOWED TO DISCUSS this at the legislature …

    … or GAME OVER …. your local NUKE can do whatever they like …
    … because you silly citizens had the temerity to bring up the CANARD of nuclear power safety …

    … Game Over … Victory Entergy ….

    Oh Really, Gar Murtha??? How stupid is that decision??? …

    … not enen ALLOWED TO DISCUSS NUCLEAR SAFETY … or GAME OVER, Entergy WINS …

    really, Gar Murtha??? that is a smart decision from a federal JUDGE????

    pretty silly, Gar, don't you think???

    peace to the 'newsers … keep hammerin' at them with the truth …

    makes the nuclear prostitute cult look sillier and sillier …

    Don't you think?, Gar?

    out …


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    • Arizonan Arizonan

      Nedli, I share your frustration, which you have expressed really well and accurately here. +100. People think we still have freedom of speech here, but if courts can shut down true justice for the people of Vermont and other nuclear US states, we have a serious problem on our hands, people. It's not just "them" over there in some other country that have the problem!


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    • VanneV anne

      This report has some erroneous information. I quote from it: "World News Daily, a veteran website…" WND is not World News Daily and it is not a veteran website. It is World Net Daily.


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      • VanneV anne

        "Joseph Farah is founder, editor and CEO of WND and a nationally syndicated columnist with Creators Syndicate. He is the author or co-author of 13 books, including his latest, 'The Tea Party Manifesto,' and his classic, 'Taking America Back,' now in its third edition and 14th printing. Farah is the former editor of the legendary Sacramento Union and other major-market dailies."
        http://www.wnd.com/author/jfarah/

        "Joseph Farah (born July 6, 1954) is an American author, journalist and editor-in-chief of the conservative website WorldNetDaily (WND). Farah was born in Paterson, New Jersey, on July 6, 1954, to parents of Syrian and Lebanese ancestry.[2][3] His father was a schoolteacher.[3] He graduated from William Paterson University, in Wayne, New Jersey with a B.A. in Communications.[3] He is married to Elizabeth Farah and is a conservative evangelical Christian.[3][4]\…”
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Farah


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        • gottagetoffthegrid

          Thanks for keeping the gate, Anne. There is nothing like the truth to send them skittering to their holes.


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        • Pierpont

          Why on earth are you shilling for Farah and his idiot website?

          Here's what one well known political commentator loved by all of America had to say about him:

          " after Farah published private emails between himself and Coulter, Coulter called him a “publicity whore” and a “swine” in an email to the Daily Caller blog"

          An unconfirmed source characterized him as a rat-bag neo-con and characterized his website as having all the respect of a frog fart in cold winter mud.

          That's the same sort of unconfirmed source tactic wnd uses when "reporting." Kahlili is a goof-ball with dark shades and a surgical mask — absolutely bizarre.

          The Israeli press have fallen for this Fordow story like it was handed down by Moses. US MSM have kept this "report" buried because they can't source it. Maybe there's a clue there.

          The IAEA inspectors go into Fordow every week or so. If there's been a massive blow out, Iran knows that all the world will know it and so why would they deny it now?

          Nothing to see here. Move along . . .


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          • kez

            Hahahaha … Coulter loved by all America … LIBS ARE DEMONIC Ann?

            That's a stretch to say she is loved by all America … but OK … she did get this one right.

            Appreciate and agree otherwise with your perspective. Thanks.


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          • VanneV anne

            I can't stand Ann Coulter, because she said on TV that radiation is good for you.

            Are you shilling for Ann Coulter? Repeating anything she says seems really strange to me.

            I really haven't stated my opinion as to whether the explosion happened or not.

            However, when a report has some verifiable inaccuracies, it does lend to speculation that the whole report may have other inaccuracies or be completely inaccurate.

            Also, criticizing me for reporting the news looks like you are protesting too much. So maybe the report of the explosion is accurate after all.

            Please, stick to the facts. Crucifying the messenger really brings about the opposite of whatever you are trying to achieve.

            If there is a radioactive release or a failed nuclear facility, this is extremely important news.

            Reporting the news should be without emotion. The news which has been reported so far on this event is not a conspiracy. It is the people who are injecting so much emotion into the news who are trying to turn it into a conspiracy.

            Nuclear power plants are inimical to life. They can never be used without bringing about untold death. They must be all shut down forever.

            I am for life. I am totally against the death harbored by and exponentially brought about all things nuclear. It is hubris that is the source of humanity's downfall. Everyone should be terrified by the radiation created by a science which wants only to decimate all life.


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            • VanneV anne

              TYPO:
              I am for life. I am totally against the death harbored by and exponentially brought about by anything connected to nuclear.

              I just found out that someone I cared about very much has died because of the fallout from Fukushima. Surely, we are all facing untold sorrow from all the nuclear catastrophes and nuclear waste accumulating at an exponential rate.

              Nuclear science is definitely "the destroyer of all worlds."


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              • Time Is Short Time Is Short

                I'm with you, anne. Thanks for the tireless effort you make here.

                I'm sorry about your friend. I lost two neighbors to Sudden Death Syndrome, a niece and possibly a friend and his wife who lived in Fukushima, who got away but is now unreachable.

                Sad.


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          • papacares papacares

            shilling for no-one – reading all comments made in all posts above it is clear there is a lot of opinion on what the Times of London is reporting concerning Fordow. However opinions are like a certain part of human anatomy known as the anus, everybody has one and they all stink. anne does a lot of research and simply points out sources, rather than use anger, humiliation, slander and racial or political bias: (quote) anne January 28, 2013 at 3:46 pm · Reply – Explosion in Iran on Saturday, 26 January, 2013 at 05:04 (05:04 AM) UTC.
            http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_summary&edis_id=EX-20130126-38002-IRN (end quote) if something has happened at Fordow it cannot be hidden forever. Again remember the ENENEWS post was lifted from the "Times of London" following your sentences "nothing to see here. Move along…" it appears you have made your opinion perfectly clear and have now shut the door on all other input. Thank you


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    • VanneV anne

      Iranian Whistleblower Says Bushehr Nuclear Plant Will End In A "Tragic Disaster"

      "The Times of London has obtained an Iranian document saying the Mid-East country's Bushehr nuclear power plant will likely be the world's next big nuclear catastrophe (via The Australian).
      “Bushehr is already being called ‘the next Chernobyl,’ but how far would a radioactive cloud from Iran's new Bushehr nuclear power plant spread?…
      “The document says that Iran's reactor was built by ‘second-class engineers,’ is vulnerable to earthquakes, and has no emergency plans in the event of an accident. Furthermore, Iran is the only country which has not joined the Convention on Nuclear Safety, which is an agreement to meet certain international nuclear power plant standards.
      “Sami Alfaraj, a Kuwaiti government adviser, said, ‘they are playing Russian roulette not just with us but with the world" and that an accident would be a "total calamity for the world’ in a post by the Bureau of Investigative Journalism.
      “Soon after the reactor's September 12 unveiling, Russian engineer Alexander Bolgarov already revealed the reactor's malfunctions, construction errors, and other flaws during its testing and construction phases. The Bushehr reactor is essentially built from some new Russian parts attached to the old damaged remains of an incomplete German power plant from 1974…."
      http://www.businessinsider


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  • VanneV anne

    There is a named source in this article:

    Iran Denies Reports of Explosion at Underground Nuclear Facility
    “Iran has denied reports about an explosion at its underground Fordow nuclear plant, saying they are ‘Western propaganda.’
    “The report of the blast was passed on to WND by Hamidreza Zakeri, formerly with the Islamic Republic’s Ministry of Intelligence and National Security.
    “Zakeri said that the blast shook facilities within a radius of three miles. Security forces enforced a no-traffic radius of 15 miles, and the Tehran-Qom highway was shut down for several hours after the blast, the source said.
    “Iran admitted in the past it was moving more centrifuge machines for enriching uranium to the underground Fordow facility, which is carved into a mountain to protect it against possible attacks….”
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/164635#.UQd2jPK8Bad


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    All around the world..there is a difference between the government and the will of the people.
    Not that the Iranian government is not supported..but hey..Obama is well supported too..while many of us…(as evidenced by the recent attempt at secession)..do not support his actions…or the actions of our military..in our war of pillage and theft.

    Israel..the only nation that does not allow nuclear plant inspections.
    Always has something to say…always pointing with the filthy finger of hypocrisy.

    All people have red blood inside..

    Iran: People Like Us
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEHW7r3HsKI


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    PS..These are beautiful countries..ya know..Syria..Iran..Iraq..etc.
    We don't bat an eye at their destruction.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    This is a clip from..2006

    Iran – What the Media Won't Tell You

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XamwRJwDwmI

    6 yrs..how time flies.


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  • VanneV anne

    There is not one country in the whole world that allows inspections of their nuclear facilities. To single out one of all these countries is nothing but complete prejudice and disinformation.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Then the NRC…goes and plays chess?


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    OK..anne..YOU win..it's three countries..Israel..Pakistan and India.

    This 2009..
    UN body urges Israel to allow nuclear inspection

    Russia, China back nuclear assembly resolution; Iran envoy: Vote is 'triumph for oppressed nation of Palestine.'

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/un-body-urges-israel-to-allow-nuclear-inspection-1.7603

    If you would like to update..please do.
    I'm going for coffee.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    PS. Pfftt..The US is going have or destroy the nuke facilities in Pakistan.
    In India…the US is all up in it.


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  • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

    Read the report on CTBTO and US capabilities I listed above.. here are a few tidbits..

    satellite nuclear detonation detection system (didn't know we had one) page 36 http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=12849&page=36
    Notice the below, from the report, I downloaded the entire thing, makes casual mention of nuclear fuel-cycle operations release fission and activation products into the atmosphere..IT IS A GIVEN!
    "Because there are other processes that release fission and activation products into the atmosphere (i.e., nuclear fuel-cycle operations), radionuclide detection equipment commonly keys on specific signatures that are unique to nuclear explosions through the use of specific isotopes or ratios of activities of one isotope to another. The ratio of isotopes within a sample can also be used to determine the approximate detonation time of the explosion based on the rate of decay of the radionuclides in the sample"


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    • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

      "Radionuclide Signal Detection Based on the current coverage of the radionuclide detection stations listed in the Treaty,
      there is very little chance that an atmospheric detonation of even a modest size would go undetected by the IMS, largely due to the high sensitivity of radionuclide samplers in the network. Figure 2-9 illustrates a calculation17 of the probability of detection of a 1-kiloton atmospheric nuclear detonation after 14 days by the IMS, based on a 79-station network and detection of a single species of isotope. The figure illustrates that the global coverage for atmospheric detonations is almost 100 percent, except for a few locations in the oceans near the equator where the probability is in the range of 30-90 percent." If you have the slightest doubt that your government knew what was what, then you are a fool… the capabilities for radionuclide detection/fall out detection are enormous, and classified.. they talk about not being able to release results as the detection methods are too classified..??


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      • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

        more.. Satellite Detonation Detection Capability The technical basis for detecting nuclear explosions in the atmosphere or in space derives from the U.S. atmospheric test experience, which has been studied extensively. Different phenomena are detectable at various altitudes depending on where the nuclear explosion takes place. Based on this knowledge and experience starting with the Vela satellites in the early 1960s, the United States has produced and maintained an impressive satellite nuclear detonation detection capability for continuous coverage of Earth and space. Modern coverage is provided by nuclear detonation detection payloads carried on multi-mission satellites (Global Positioning System [GPS] and, at geosynchronous altitudes, the Defense Support Program [DSP] satellites), which are procured and operated by the U.S. Air Force. The nuclear detonation detection sensor payloads are provided by DOE NNSA, whereas AFTAC receives the data and interprets it as part of the USAEDS.


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        • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

          Satellite Event Location and Classification
          In the past 10 years, research sponsored by DOE/NNSA at the national labs has resulted in improved optical detection with better sensitivity and coverage, even in the presence of obscuration due to clouds, debris, etc. In addition, modern satellite electro-magnetic pulse (EMP) detectors are able to operate independently of the optical detectors and can now provide credible confirmation of an atmospheric nuclear explosion. The significance of this is improved timeliness and confidence in the detection and identification of atmospheric nuclear explosions. In the case of a high-altitude explosion occurring in the transition region, this information would also aid civil authorities in assessing the potential damage to ground-based infrastructure caused by EMP effects. Finally, advances over the past decade due to incorporating modern data processing and communications allow this vitally important information (i.e., the occurrence
          of a nuclear explosion) to be made available to the highest levels of U.S. authorities quickly and with very high confidence. For example, in the case of a nuclear explosion in space, the results of satellite detection of nuclear radiation would immediately be available to the military
          authorities in assessing the potential effects of an exoatmospheric nuclear explosion on vital U.S. space assets.


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  • irhologram

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/new-details-surface-on-iran-nuclear-explosion/
    A senior researcher and director of the Centre for Arab & Iranian Studies in London, Ali Reza Nourizadeh, who has many contacts in Iran, confirmed that the explosion had trapped many inside.

    Although the regime’s rescue team drilled into the site through the entrance of the smaller elevator used by the personnel, no information is available on those trapped inside and the number of casualties or injured.

    According WND’s source, a member of the security forces protecting Fordow, 36 North Korean technicians and military officers arrived in Tehran Jan. 15 and 17 and subsequently visited two Iranian nuclear sites under heavy security. One site, still unknown to the West with its vast installation of centrifuges, will be revealed soon by WND. At the other, the Fordow site, the North Koreans were to witness the start-up of six cascades of 174 new-generation, speedier centrifuges.

    Hamidreza Zakeri, a former member of the regime’s Intelligence Ministry, said 17 technicians and two military supervisors are stationed at the secret site, and 14 technicians and two military officers were at Fordow.

    The source said a log on closed-circuit cameras installed by the regime to monitor the site’s three centrifuge chambers and two highly enriched uranium reserves gave this account:

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/new-details-surface-on-iran-nuclear-explosion/#1qpT8VuzWKFEsDpM.99


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    •On Jan 21, 14 members of the North Korean team and two military officers now stationed at Fordow along with Iranian scientists started the process of feeding uranium gas into the newly set-up cascades at 9:15 a.m. Tehran time
    •At 10:43 a.m., due to a drop in power pressure, system warning signs went off, but everything went back to normal after two minutes.
    •At 11:36 a.m., five explosions occurred concurrently in the centrifuge chambers, two explosions in the uranium reserve enclosures and a subsequent explosion in the main hallway close to the exit.
    •At the time of the explosions, a very bright red and purple light distorted the image and an extremely loud noise could be heard. Before the explosions knocked out the cameras, interior walls could be seen coming down within the centrifuge chambers. All the explosions seemed to have been initiated from the ceilings.
    •All cameras on the lowest floor (about 300 feet deep under a mountain) and the floor above it (about 250 feet deep) were knocked out, and only two cameras above the installation where security personnel are stationed were working.
    •Security forces immediately informed their superiors, who ordered them to remain in the monitoring room and avoid further communication with the outside world until counterintelligence forces arrived. Twenty-one personnel were gathered in a conference room to await further instruction.
    •Security forces were then told to close down all surrounding roads.
    •Approximately two…


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  • irhologram

    Cont.
    •Approximately two hours after the explosions, counterintelligence agents arrived and, after interviewing personnel and reviewing tapes, initially concluded that explosives may have been placed in ceiling lamps with some kind of trigger mechanism controlled by a power voltage frequency.
    •The last images show eight personnel in anti-radiation clothing trying desperately to secure one of the rooms.

    The regime believes the technology used with the explosives is unknown to their forces, the source said.

    Iranian authorities fear that opening the site from the outside in a rescue mission could possibly release radiation and uranium gas or cause further explosions, which could contaminate thousands of people living nearby, the source said.

    As of Monday, the regime had not come up with any concrete rescue plan, though more than 200 people remain trapped, including the North Koreans, he said. He added that an agreement reached last September between North Korea and Iran called for further collaboration on Iran’s nuclear bomb project and the arming of missiles with nuclear warheads.

    Another source in the Intelligence Ministry said that in a meeting Monday among top officials, including President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, it was decided that the international community would be kept in the dark about the disaster because any validation would undermine current negotiating with the 5+1 world powers.

    Read more at http://www.wnd


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  • VanneV anne

    The NRC are all political appointees appointed by the US for the US. They are not international inspectors. No international inspectors inspect everywhere in Russia or China or India or Pakistan or the UK or the US. Try to look at who is a member of the Security Council of the UN. These 5 countries can veto any international inspection.


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  • Pierpont

    When you parrot this BS you are just demonstrating how gullible you are and expecting other readers to dim-down their own brains.

    All of this crap is coming from the idiot in the surgical mask, "Kahlili" who appears in places like the Glenn Beck show. He is anonymous and is citing "a source" which is also anonymous.

    Look at that "timeline." There are details there that could not possibly be known to anyone outside the facility. For instance "Security forces immediately informed their superiors," Now, ask yourself, who could possibly know that other than someone inside the mountain? Are we supposed to believe that this Kahlili goon has the cell-phone number of someone inside Fordow?? GMAFB.

    When al-Jazerra or NYT or some other reliable outlet reports this story and cites identifiable sources, such as IAEA, who could be expected to know, then it may have some substance. Murdoch's The Times is just as unreliable as any of the Israeli MSM on this issue. The Times is just re-packaging what WND is spewing. When you dig down in any of these reports all you get is an echo chamber occupied by mysterious goons and Iranian ex-pats who hate the IRI.

    All I'm suggesting is that a little skepticism never hurt anyone, particularly when a lot of people want to gin up a war with Iran.

    BTW, a "reliable source" tells me that Anne Coulter is pregnant with John Kerry's baby, and they have agreed to put it up for adoption in Russia.


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    • VanneV anne

      Everyone appreciates and exercises skepticism about every news report. People deserve the news and the right to decide for themselves what is more likely the news and what isn't. If the government or foreign interests didn't control the mainstream media and if they didn't continually put out disinformation all the time they might be more credible.

      Attacking a person doesn't establish that your discernment is credible. It makes it look like you are protecting some personal interest or foreign interest.

      If your attack is on this website, please go somewhere else. People have a right to protect themselves against nuclear radiation. And if you have a problem with free speech, please feel free to live in a country which doesn't have free speech.


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    • VanneV anne

      It is really funny that you think al-Jazeerah is a credible news source. And the NY Times has it's biases also.


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      • Anthony Anthony

        Kind of backing your point in a round about way!!! :

        **Yet, Gore defended selling his cable television channel, Current TV, to the foreign company Al Jazeera. The government of Qatar, which gets most of its money from oil and natural gas reserves, contributes much of the funding for Al Jazeera.
        Gore said he understands concern over the perceived conflict of philosophy and critics who called the sale hypocritical.
        “I certainly understand that criticism. I disagree with it, because I think Al Jazeera has obviously long established itself as a really distinguished and effective news gathering organization,” he said. “And by the way, its climate coverage has been far more extensive and of high quality than any of the networks there.”**
        http://todaynews.today.com/_news/2013/01/29/16752525-gore-current-weather-like-a-nature-hike-through-book-of-revelation?lite


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      excellent smack-down Pierpont…


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    • yogda yogda

      "When al-Jazerra or NYT or some other reliable outlet reports this story and cites identifiable sources, such as IAEA, who could be expected to know, then it may have some substance."

      That was a joke right??


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      • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

        though I see your point, yogda, I think he's suggesting more credible sources. We know AJ's a controlled outlet and the NYT's a given. If there was something more than echos of the WND report, maybe then we'd have the means to know what's happening. As it is, the story's now developing a serious odor…


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  • VanneV anne

    When are governments going to realize that every nuclear reactor in the world is in your backyard. Every nuclear war or use of depleted uranium is in your own backyard:

    Kissinger Predicts Nuclear War with Iran
    January 25, 2013
    “Speaking at the one-worlder confab held in Davos, Switzerland, Kissinger said a crisis involving a nuclear Iran in the “foreseeable future” will lead to a nuclear war and “a turning point in human history,” the BBC reports.
    “’There has emerged in the region, the current and most urgent issue of nuclear proliferation. For 15 years, the permanent members of the United Nations Security Council have declared that a nuclear Iran is unacceptable, but it has been approaching,’ Kissinger said.
    “He then said governments will ‘come to a determination of how to react, or the consequences of non-reaction… [in] a few years.’…
    “In 2011 it was reported by the United States Institute of Peace and others that Iran was having problems with its nuclear program. In addition to fending off U.S. and Israeli cyber attacks, persistent sabotage of its nuclear facilities and the assassination of its scientists, Iran is finding it difficult to obtain essential parts on the international market and until recently had issues with its centrifuges.
    “In January the International Atomic Energy Agency officially confirmed that Iran had started enriching uranium to the 20-percent level.


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  • pcjensen

    news from IAEA that they support Iran's position (which is same as US – no detected evidence therefore we think there was no event…)


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  • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

    Fordow Uranium Enrichment Facility Explosion, Radiation Leak? via A Green Road
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/01/bushehr-nuclear-plant-explosion.html

    Dr. Helen Caldicott MD On Nuclear Weapons, MAD/Nuclear Armageddon; via A Green Road http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/dr-helen-caldicott-md-on-nuclear.html


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  • pcjensen

    I just discovered that this ENENews piece was attributed to me. Let me explain something….

    Whenever I tweeted news articles at twitter under the now gone nowarnow2011, it was neither an endorsement or agreement, it just was. So, if any of you thought I was being an idiot, or whatever … get a grip.

    To ENENews – gee, thanks for the one time you decided to note my contribution to the nuc truth movement.


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