Published: October 3rd, 2012 at 12:53 pm ET
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Follow-up to: Gundersen: Fill Fukushima reactors with cement and come back in 100 years -- It’s too radioactive (VIDEO)
U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works
Uploaded by eon3
Filmed September 12, 2012
Published on Oct 1, 2012
At 2:00 in
Commissioner William D. Magwood, Nuclear Regulatory Commission: It is very difficult to overstate how difficult the work is going to be at that site. There will need to be new technologies and new methodologies created to be able to enable them to clean the site up and some of these technologies don’t exist yet, so there’s a long way to go with that [...] there’s a long, long way to go.
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Published: October 3rd, 2012 at 12:53 pm ET
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The Rebox-Pandora technologies will never exist. They have been working on thorium and fusion technologies for 50 years with no end in sight. So there is no indication to me they will do any better in accident remediation or waste disposal.
Unless they can figure out how to cheaply send into deep space a toxic pile equivalent to the Himalayan mountain range, then they will never develop safe nuclear disposal methods on earth.
Nuclear scientists destroy this world very efficiently. Restoring it is not present now in their puny intellectual abilities. Nor will they ever be able to fix the nuclear industry damages to the environment.
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I fully agree .. Top how to send in the sun a little power to him
A few years have passed since Chernobyl, so the technology can liquidation pushing forward. I was amazed and watched with curiosity as the exchange works in the Gulf of Mexico valve, 2 km below the surface …. the live camera. So that we have some news …
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OK so now Magwood has IN A NUTSHELL summed up the problem with nuclear power…
It's time to Give Up The Ghost, boys!
It remains total hypocrisy that this Commissioner would remain in favor of operating NPPs in the US one more day!
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Here is the Japanese version of Nuclear Power = Death.
http://www.zazzle.com/%E5%8E%9F%E5%AD%90%E5%8A%9B%E7%99%BA%E9%9B%BB_%E6%AD%BB%E3%81%AEt%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A3%E3%83%84_tees-235222583515715163
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Two things:
1. The Nuclear Industry blew up along with Reactors1,3,&4. Public trust is utterly gone. You admit that the Nuclear Industry can't fix Fuku. Shut down all US nukes now, Mr. Magwood. If you can't fix 'em when they break, you can't allow 'em to run.
2. Here is a non-nuclear "fix" requiring the development of no new technologies: Cofferdam 100' deep around Harbor then inland above the Buildings1,2,3,&4. Inside cofferdam uphill from Buildings, drill 8 injection wells, 4 @ 50' and 4 @ 80', presuming the location of Coriums to be between 50' and 80' below ground level. Install pumps to deliver Harbor water to injection wells, powered by tidal, wind, or solar power. This should cool the 3 coriums. Fill reactor building ruins with sand. Cover ruins in concrete. You need to listen to Arnie Gundersen.
Then go to your nuke industry friends like GE and get them to outfit a hospital ship to sit in Tokyo Bay to treat the victims of the Nuclear Industry for the next 1000 years.
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Philip, great idea if only someone would start applying your recommendations, I for one would feel a lot better about the current status of this disaster as it just doesn't seem like they are getting much accomplished to lessen the impact on the bread basket, the Pacific ocean. Thanks again.
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You may need a gazillion dollars and actually good (and honest) administrators telling the truth all the time.
I don't think that this could happen here.
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"…outfit a hospital ship…for the next 1000 years." is awesome Philip…
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While you are busy to "clean the site up", Mr. Commissioner, don't forget "the site" has the shape of a huge ball, 6 continents, 4 oceans – indeed a long, long way to go!
If you want to gain any credibility, you first make sure that all running nuclear power plants are immediately shut down and properly secured before you talk about "cleaning up", or you inevitably will have much more to mop up.
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At Chernobyl they guess 25% or the core left the building to settle around Europe and they have a lid ajar to prove it. The rest of the core mixed with shielding sand then flowed to the lower floors of the building until cool enough to stay in one place where they want to keep water away from it, rain or ground water to prevent any reactions. The melt air cooled.
Fukushima has (3) full core blobs present if you believe none of the lids have blown off. No matter if they sit on concrete or traveled elsewhere.
And then they worry about Pool #4 but Pool #3's contents supposedly left the building but the only difference between #4 and #3 is #3 had less fuel and older fuel, not as much and as hot as #4.
So, I can see where Chernobyl could be initially rated worse except Fukushima involves a larger amount of melted fuel, in total, besides Pool #3 vaporizing including all the venting of the (3) reactors, the melted cores are still onsite.
In the long run Fukushima cumulative releases will far surpass Chernobyl whether via air and/or water flows if it hasn't already but Chernobyl definitely sent part of its working core airborne, spreading different isotopes to a larger area than the Fukushima event.
Fukushima involves a more populated area nearer the site.
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Fukushima sickens the whole middle and upper Japan, with the most poisonous things (whether legally or not) mortals will ever know.
The nation of the nascent sun has turned (allegedly by all the evidence nowadays) into a barren ground with no chances of cultivating or fishing.
Furthermore, both the electrical utility and the local government are the most corrupted liars in the world, stupid pets and the worst of our occidental liberalism; they should be brought to a front row before the crippled plants (and that's what's happening one way or the other, hehehe).
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Magwood does Goebbels proud!
"…There will need to be new technologies and new methodologies created to be able to enable them to clean the site up and some of these technologies don’t exist yet…"
Magwood/Goebbels Translation:
"…The U.S. nuclear industry does not consider a containment breach within the realm of possibility, so just don't worry about it. We don't train operators how to react. Utilities are not required to insure themselves. We don't even bother to set up monitoring outside the plant because it will never happen. If it did happen, we wouldn't tell you what we were cooking in the reactor anyway – that's a secret. And we have no idea how to clean it up because, once again, it will NEVER HAPPEN. What damn part of that don't you lab rats understand?…"
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Great posts …. Sickputer, Phillipupnorth, Paveway3 …
keep it coming guys … the posts are thick and furious and the truth is willing to come out … even in the belated admission/non-apology from one of the 'Toothless Toadies' of the NRC … (Google Toady and you get a "fawning flatterer; an obsequious (servilely compliant or deferential) sycophant" … which shows that , sometimes, language gets it right …
and so the Toady fesses up … to what? Lessen his Toadiness??
Where is his John? his Paymaster? his Sugardaddy .. General Electric … about advice or comment about THEIR WAYWARD PROGENY????
Nothing from GE??? From Them Who Built This Thing which cannot be contained????
?????
Shameful, Mr. immelt … 100% SHAMEFUL!!!!
peace …
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This is the most anger provoking thing about Nuke plants..
They don't know how to clean up a accident when they happen.. Plutonium is the most dangerous substance on earth.. Created by man..
Yet, as dangerous as it is, and as impossible for man to deal with ..They continue to create it.. Run the power plants that are constantly at risk of contaminating the earth and every living thing on it…
I can't think of anything more crazy..
Except opening pandora's box.. Which they have..
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"The authorities" have a certain familiar style, in issues great and small.
http://xkcd.com/1116/
How did we let them get their hands on nukes?
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aigeezer, I watched the whole cycle…LOL @ the purple!
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Thanks or-well. Hehe – how do you know you watched the whole cycle? – maybe it's a timed embedded loop. Now you'll have to watch it forever, just in case, the way we have to watch Fukushima.
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aigeezer – Haha! Good point!
No spoiler, just at first, I was trying to respond to it as one might in normal circumstances…heh…that option seems less viable more frequently these days…
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Well, by god, if the technology doesn't exist, if you don'y have a way to stop disasters caused by some invention of yours then you had no business building and deploying it in the first place.
Where is common sense these days?
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The ''common'' sense science upholds is to rely on someone in the future to have the answers of dealing with nuke disasters and even nuke waste. Up to now nobody has invented the technology to tackle those problems.
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