TV: Officials near San Francisco to monitor Fukushima plume, concerns for environment and food supply — Supervisor: The risks to Californians are concerning — Commissioner: We can’t rely on Japan or Tepco — Will waves of cesium and strontium pollute coast? (VIDEO)

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Marin Independent Journal, Dec. 3, 2013: Concern that a radioactive plume is headed for the West Coast from the crippled Japanese Fukushima nuclear plant has prompted Marin County officials to monitor the situation. [...] fears about toxic pollution have prompted supervisors Susan Adams and Steve Kinsey to ask that public safety, health and coastal staff track the issue. [...] While county officials point out that while concern is justified, there is no reason for alarm pending scientific study. But even experts do not know what, exactly, to expect when ocean waters carrying nuclear contaminants reach the West Coast in two or three years. How much of a threat will it pose? Will waves contaminated with cesium and strontium pollute the coast? [...] radioactive water has been leaking from damaged reactors [since disaster began in March 2011].

Estimated location of Fukushima plume in 2014 — *Model does not account for ongoing daily leaks into Pacific of ~400 tons of radioactive water (Han G J, et al., 2013)

Susan Adams, Marin County Supervisor and head of the Marin County Disaster Council: “Obviously, from a public health and environmental perspective, the risks to Californians from radioactive contamination if the Fukushima facility is not repaired to the highest standards remains of concern. [...] I will also be contacting our state and federal representatives to learn more about what is being done to ensure the health and safety of our people and our resources from any future nuclear incident at the Fukushima plant.”

Steve Kinsey, California state coastal commissioner: “The water quality of our ocean is critical for both ecologic and food supply purposes [...] Relying on the assurances of the nuclear plant operator or an embarrassed Japanese government is not sufficient. [...] [I'm] pleased that California’s science-based organizations are stepping up to monitor and test our water quality, because the public needs neither fear-mongering nor wishful thinking at this time.”

ABC 7 News, Dec. 3, 2013: Marin County will begin monitoring a radioactive plume that may be drifting toward the West Coast. That plume is from the crippled Fuksuhima nuclear plant [...] Two Marin County supervisors have directed the county’s Public Health, Safety and Coastal staff to track this. Experts say they don’t know when contaminated ocean water might reach the West Coast and there is no threat now — Apparently. There is concern because of the importance of the ocean, obviously, to our food supply. Radioactive water leaking from the reactor is being kept in storage bins, but experts say it will eventually be released into the sea and they want to monitor it to make sure that at the very least if it comes this way they know about it.

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149 comments to TV: Officials near San Francisco to monitor Fukushima plume, concerns for environment and food supply — Supervisor: The risks to Californians are concerning — Commissioner: We can’t rely on Japan or Tepco — Will waves of cesium and strontium pollute coast? (VIDEO)

  • UncleCrusty

    "Will… strontium and cesium pollute the coast ?" Ummm. Yes,Yes it will. Extensively. Forever. All of the radioactive substances gushing into the ocean will get here, and are quite likely to kill the ocean food chain in the process. Super you noticing now. We have been telling you this for , literally, years now. Did it take a 45% sea lion pup mortality rate to finally get your attention? Or the starfish die off or record low salmon, herring and sardine catches?? You just now figuring this out? OR, you found out how F-ed we are and are out for damage and information control. I suspect the latter.


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  • own_quality

    "Radioactive water leaking from the reactor is being kept in storage bins, but experts say it will eventually be released into the sea and they want to monitor it to make sure that at the very least if it comes this way they know about it."

    I'm so relieved. I thought that some radioactive water was already going into the ocean. Thankfully it is all safely kept in "storage bins". I sure hope they don't decide to release any radioactive water. Good thing our public health and safety officials are up to speed on the situation.


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    • many moons

      And don't forget, they'll be watching the plume and monitoring it, whew what a relief!
      Watching and monitoring, that should save us.


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    • UncleCrusty

      Impressive! I found an equal in sarcasm. Be well, Own


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    • nedlifromvermont

      Well, finally they are "concerned" but still not "alarmed". Up to speed, maybe not so much. "All the contaminated water is stored in bins" means they do not follow this truth site.

      I'm actually alarmed, as are most newsers, but at least I'm not afraid (in Vermont) yet, although I probably should be.

      Drip drip drip Gush; how do you like you're truth served up?

      Sometimes it comes by the boatload, and it may swamp your dinghy of reality.

      Good thing some Bay Area Assemblywoman is on the job to allay the "threat" which is still "non-existent" unless the "crippled" plant is not "repaired to the highest standards" then they might be at risk from some "future nuclear incident at the Fukushima plant" … Dang, I hope she's good.

      This logic, devoid of truthful fact, is apparently what gets you elected to Dissembly Woman in Marin County.

      Wanna bet she's already sold her pricey estate in Tiburon and is renting out in Davis somewhere??

      Dissemble yes, but not multiple times in one interview.

      It goes to your credibility.

      Maybe she got a secret contract from big nuke.

      Maybe Hollywood should have rolled out a panegyric about the wonders of nuclear power, and not the China Syndrome, and big nuke might have decided not to nuke our west coast … maybe.

      And ABC is involved in the cover up? They are owned by Disney, not GE; but Walt did shill for big nuke, with the strongly accented, white haired guy and the mouse traps … Our Friend the…


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      • "…in exchange for funding" [greed]

        That's part of 'how' this all started.

        "…a genie in a bottle," he says. [seems risky to me]

        Video: Our Friend the Atom

        "Walt Disney began hosting his own television show for ABC in 1954 in an unusual contract: Disney provided ABC with a weekly hour-long television program in exchange for funding for the construction of Disneyland. As a result, the television show was also originally named Disneyland."

        "Dr. Heinz Haber, a noted scientist [shill] in the field of atomic energy, hosts this look at the possibility of an exciting new power source. He starts by comparing atomic energy to a genie in a bottle, both of which capable of doing both good and EVIL, and it is up to humankind to develop safe controls over this largely unexplored science."

        Aired on Wednesday, January 23rd, 1957 on ABC at 7:30pm
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDcjW1XSXN0&list=PL89C3EBC75D1471F4&index=36

        ;)
        They did not emphasize the EVIL aspect enough for some reason?
        The RISKS to every living thing on the planet were ignored.
        Who gave THEM permission?

        They did not examine the 'what if' part of 'safe controls' failing, and now, … here we all are.

        Year 2013.
        1001 DAYS of out of control radioactive contamination from triple meltdowns with no end in sight!


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      • Nedlifromvermont….GE owns all the NBC outlets.


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  • Socrates

    These same people were asleep at the switch three years ago when this accident could have been prevented. They were silent about these dangers when their voices were needed.

    That silence may well cost them and their children their lives.

    After TMI and Chernobyl, to mention just a few instances, maybe they should have looked into Diablo Canyon and SONGS.


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    • Phil Shiffley Phil Shiffley

      Gorbachev claims the only way Moscow knew there was a problem at Chernobyl was when the Swedes contacted them after finding spiking readings. Is it possible the industry has our government officials snookered?

      I've seen it in action in smaller groups. The people who have consolidated power dictate reality all while undermining opposing messages coming to the fore.

      Any person w/an undesirable message was demonized. They would use the term "mentally ill". I came to understand that was to make sure the message was never given an ounce of consideration. It was like a Scarlett A, and the person w/the oppositional ideas would be shunned. There were many ties to state gov, DC and Tinseltown in that area. Stunned at how organized, methodical, and even openly ferocious the opinion leaders could be, I always thought I was watching a microcosm of how things are done in those places, DC and Tinseltown. You do understand ene and similar groups are collectively the "crazy" person, right?

      So I guess I do give the actual people in office (as opposed to their opinion shapers) leeway that perhaps they actually have been stupidly snookered. Their attention is steered. Then again they probably fear moving to far from the directive. Plausible deniability, right?


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      • nedlifromvermont

        Right you are Mr. Shifley.

        For your amusement: Check out the history of the critical meeting of the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy Chaired By Wall Streeter (non-scientist) Lewis Strauss as told in the epic "We Almost Lost Detroit" by ??? after the Brookhaven Scientists in charge of the original Reactor Safety Study, done in pre-Price-Anderson early 1957, where try as they might they could not reduce the chances of a major reactor malfunction to something below one accident every five hundred or so reactor operating years, which gives a probability of almost one meltdown every single year, somewhere in the world, with over 400 reactors operating on the face of our tiny planet … … (Thank God for long sentences …)

        Talk about controlling a meeting …

        This would be United States equivalent to the Heydrich Chaired Wannsee Konferenz … which relegated millions of European Jews (and many others) to the gas chamber …(You must watch the movie "Wannsee")

        That is where this goes …

        That is why Germany is abandoning Nuke …

        They have a "cultural understanding" of the Mischief which ensues when the government of a nation state get behind the Selling of a Lie …

        Did I hear anyone say, "Safe, Secure and Reliable" …

        Oh! and "geen, too" and even "good jobs provider"

        Big Nuke: Dissembler Extraordinaire …

        Folks: It may be pointless, but Evil is Identifiable … …

        … as J. Goebbels smiles from the grave …

        peace!


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        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

          With Fukushima that just rose 10 times. So now its 10 reactor accidents a year:
          "one accident every five hundred or so reactor operating years, which gives a probability of almost one meltdown every single year, somewhere in the world, with over 400 reactors operating on the face of our tiny planet "


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          • nedlifromvermont

            Actually Anne, they increased the unrealistically low Rasmussen predictions by one order of magnitude, not the original Brookhaven probabilities.

            The Brookhaven numbers are correct.

            The MIT sanctioned Rasmussen numbers are junk and they are off by more than one magnitude.

            peace


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      • ManWithThePlan ManWithThePlan

        Do 'crazy' people have 17,000 facebook likes?


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  • wetpwcas1 wetpwcas1

    They will need 1300 different rad counters to look for all the different radiation, like PU & the 1299 others! Pu will be here a million years & a grain will get you. Wow now they are worried, it's a little late dont you think?


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  • Grampybone Grampybone

    "Radioactive water leaking from the reactor is being kept in storage bins," Incorrect. Radioactive water leaking from the reactors is not being collected. Water from spent fuel pools is. The systems designed to pump water into the reactor containment vessel is all going into the ground. 3mSv prevents workers from recovering water in the containment. There's enough information on the status of the reactors cooling to know that none of the water can be salvaged once is goes past the 1mSv lethal exposure level. Spent fuel cooling water to be dumped into the ocean. Correct.


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  • Kashiko Kashiko

    Well at least it's a start. maybe more people will wake up to the fact we are all in trouble. The more awareness the better


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    • Bones Bones

      We need to forget about any governmental agency and take action ourselves. (To the county members who spoke.) Why appeal to authority when we are the authority? The state has done NOTHING except raise pollution limits! I hope people realize just how influential this site is. These people in political positions that are aware of the severity need to be taught the truth of the situation, all aspects, and tell them how to ask Californians to take matters into their own hands. Elevated rad levels and radionuclides found on land, fish, dairy, etc., are in Cali and have been measured since the beginning. They could set-up some investment fund for Geiger counters, scintillation counters, and other measurement tools that the people of the counties can all deploy themselves. MANY, MANY people would freely, aka for no price, operate this equipment. Do not rely on failed states. Those "almighty" states did nothing to put an end to emissions and now talk about just nuking it into the Pacific! Those are inept, cowards incapable of the will needed to protect ourselves and protection begins with KNOWLEDGE. (I really like how 2-3 years ago it would hit 2-3 years later and now its 2-3 years later…again! As if they haven't already found radionuclides there. lol)


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      • Bones Bones

        If we had an efficient and fair state, the community purse so to speak would only be saved for matters so large as this and as pressing. This is where we need money…Mass deployment of measuring equipment. Hell, throw up balloons with scintillation counters as well.


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        • Bones Bones

          P.P.S. This would also become an economy and people would design portable stations for floating in the ocean, measuring high up in the air, lobbying efforts backed by scientific studies from our work. It could make money and California would be looked at by the world as THE place to go for quality, innovative radiation detection tools. THIS is the solution to monitor. Only the public involved, no money to do the work ok food and stuff fine, and eventually encouraged innovation in the field and as well as remediation would be huge boons to Cali's economy.

          In the real world, let's design the things I mentioned and create our own economy. Perhaps Enenews'rs could sell these products to anybody, but especially concerned intelligent West Coasters. I just think the only way for action is to take action ourselves and be what the EPA and FDA and NRC are SUPPOSED TO BE DOING!


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          • Bones Bones

            My little dream is a solar powered drone that can stay aloft for at least the day and send constant readings at different altitudes throughout the day and relay that info back in real-time to a stationary pc. I bought a mill and lathe. That put a huge dent in el budgeto, but it's worth it in the long run. I was gifted an R/C plane as well. Now for feasibility and some math for the design. I think it's possible using only solar. I'm not looking for a goal of 24 hour flight, but constant flight above the clouds during the day. A little rocket could even launch it to eliminate a battery and use capacitors instead.


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            • vicky13 vicky13

              Hi Bones,,

              You could also transmit your roving data via wireless to the NETC network,, we could call your station RAD DRONE,, hehe!!!

              Is a really good idea you have going there!!


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            • ManWithThePlan ManWithThePlan

              I read in either this months or last month's issue of IEEE about some independent science groups researching the sort of solar-powered drones and other alternative energy-based flying devices which can sustain themselves for extended periods of time.

              This technology is currently being engineered with the specific aim of providing high-speed internet to remote regions and nations without proper broadband infrastructure, but the concept seems to be the same – on-board computers on self-powered drones. Pretty fascinating stuff, and hopefully grassroots movements such as the Fukushima anti-nuke movement will, in the future, use independent methods of gathering information through technology such as this.

              Hell, I harbor no offense to the author of the article, or to the science bodies that may be planning to do this, but I am quite cynical as to their purpose. I am so used to seeing anyone that operates in some expensive lab in California as proclaiming that they want to do 'their bit for the cause', and then turn around only to provide false results or shill nuke safety on behalf of the government and corporations. They are putting their own credibility in jeapordy as they 'follow the leader', but hopefully this article demonstrates genuine intentions. I hope so for everyone's sake.


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      A few people with influence beginning to get involved.

      But the whole problem is being vastly, repeatedly played down.

      "Contaminated water may" reach the coastline in two or three years ….

      Wait, wasn't that supposed to be as soon as next month, January, 2014?

      Then the wonderful piece from ABC7 news:

      "Experts say they don’t know when contaminated ocean water might reach the West Coast and there is no threat now — Apparently."

      No threat now, apparently? Well sure, if you're wearing your rose tinted obfuscation glasses, all looks well.

      Ah, yes, the FM label. FEAR MONGERING? Is that what facing reality has become?

      Just keep repeating the nuclear power manta, clean, green, and too cheap to meter, and all will be well.


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Just more blah, blah, blah. Houston, we have a problem. We'd better make it look like we're doing something. We can't let the public know we've been sitting on one hand and sucking the thumb on the other hand for the past 2 3/4 years ….


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        • HoTaters HoTaters

          You have to know what Marin County is like to really "get" this. The World Capital of political correctness, as it were. Birthplace of Whole Foods, capiche?


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          • rakingmuck

            Exactly Ho Taters. I suspect that language was used on purpose. Better than DHS telling me on Twitter yesterday they were now following me. Of course I blocked them not that it matters and not that I give a hoot. These articles prove to me that we do not need a government doing certain things much better executed at the State level including testing our food. I can't even believe me – a lifetime Democrat – is saying that. I still cling to a shred of hope despite all facts to the contrary. That hope rests with communities and states getting involved a quickly as possible and not reporting anything back to a useless and corrupt bunch of people who have already purchased bunkers. We need more Tracy's in every community and every state.


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  • Sol Man

    There is no comfort offered in the descriptive words here: may, apparently, eventually, ask, ensure…
    Humanity has been sold out.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    S Y M P T O M S

    Be aware of odd and new things happening to you and your pets.

    Officials, researchers, and supervisors, you can do the same.


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  • ToBeExpected ToBeExpected

    The more this info or disinfo…on Fukushima gets out, the more folks will sit up and take notice.. it's not important that there are inaccuracies … that's it's getting out there is good…. it cannot be hushed now.. http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/dec/03/fukushima-daiichi-tsunami-nuclear-cleanup-japan

    Thank heaven for newspaper apps… :)


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    • StPaulScout StPaulScout

      The Guardian article is helpful BUT, the photo they are running is NOT reactor number 3, it is reactor number 4. Reactor 3 is so radioactive anyone close to it, like the crane operator in the photo, would be dead in minutes.


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  • The fish, local and imported need to be tested. The Universities and other entities which have the ability to test water need to come on board. But finding minimum levels in the water distract from the bio accumulation issue of seafood. Nelson Mandella was put in jail in his forties and came out in his seventies to rule South Africa. Change can happen. Nuclear industry can be shut down. Peace


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  • ToBeExpected ToBeExpected

    They probably don't even know the difference…. they still have to catch up.. they will eventually.. it's slow but steady.


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  • HAVE YOU NOTICED HOW SILENT ARE CERTAIN GROUPS – USUALLY SO LOUD ABOUT OTHER ISSUES?

    - What about the churches, known for advocating for left wing causes – often for groups that engage in terror?

    - What about the loud feminists?
    Aren't they concerned for their own daughters and grandchildren?

    - What about the loud "miscellaneous rights" groups?
    Aren't the Japanese government and TEPCO violating our rights to be free from dangerous nuclear radiation? The oppressed and the disadvantaged will suffer from radiation too.

    - What about the very outspoken Hollywood stars, always quick to take up the latest victimhood cause?

    - What about the loud scientists who ORGANIZE to viciously denigrate those who question their dogma?

    - What about the "Occupy" crowds? Isn't Fukushima much worse than whatever the banksters can do to us?

    - What about the ecology movement? Isn't nuclear radiation a lot more lethal than CO2 and global warming?

    - What about the anti-gun lobby, so intent on disarming everybody except criminals? What about this radiation that may kill millions?

    They are all mumbling "concern" about Fukushima, if they say anything at all.

    What is happening to everybody, to all of us? Why are we submitting so easily, reluctant to organize and confront the Fukushima killer and their accomplices?

    CAN'T WE DO BETTER THAN JUST "MONITOR" AND COUNT VICTIMS?

    I feel ashamed.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    http://ottersandsciencenews


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    • I'm not targeting anyone in particular, but I just took a look at the United Church of Canada. This is the largest denomination in this country.

      These are their news on their HOME PAGE:

      - Nelson Mandela
      - Typhoon Haiyan

      These are their highlighted advocacy causes – one: Palestine.

      http://www.united-church.ca/home

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      I'm not religious at all, so I looked up one denomination from the United States at random.

      These are the only disaster items listed on the Anglican Church's home page: floods, tornadoes, the typhoon.

      http://anglicanchurch.net/?/main/events

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      There are countless instances when Churches have been confronted with their inaction in face of tremendous injustice and tyranny.

      They defend themselves, often saying they were prevented from doing more because they were under threat.

      What about now? What is preventing them from acting as leaders in denouncing the radioactive poisoning of our environment and our children?

      Churches are so often at the forefront of advocacy, challenging governments and society to defend their favorite causes. We expect more from them.

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      http://ottersandsciencenews.blogspot.ca/


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      • 4Yahshua

        12~7~5995 (out of 6000) Sabbath in this "Twilight Zone Apocalypse"

        Why aren't the churches sounding the alarm??
        Answer: The religion of The New World Order is Christianity and its cross! Anyone who has studied it KNOWS that Christianity is Roman Catholicism, the religion of the Vatican!

        Yahshua the Messiah, the Son of Yahweh said, "The truth shall make you free." John 8:32 However, it will ONLY if you BELIEVE it!


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      • artika rama

        Tracyw Dont expect much from church or mosque or any other religious organistaion . One of the main reasons we are heading to estinction is the ignorance spread by those who claim to care the most .
        I am done with religion long time ago .
        Better try to concentrate on here and now ,, try to do something to help people around us ,, try to stop this nuclear madness killing millions ,,
        DOnt expect any raligion to do anything about it :)
        peace:)


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    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Tracy you are very observant and very wise!

      Just how easy is it to control the human's brain thoughts/behaviors..very easy it appears.. :(


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Tracy W., we are assaulted on so many issues simultaneously it's hard for most people to wrap their minds around a potentially life-ending, world-ending scenario. My opinion, anyway.


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    • bo bo

      I know, tracy, so weird how they are ALL silent, not just the media – of course, the media is controlled by nuke industry… but are all religious groups too… ? Where does PETA stand on this… are they ALL bought out?


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      • bo bo

        This is where people around me chime in and say ' Exactly. It is not possible to buy them all out. So might you consider that perhaps you might be over reacting?'


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        • bo bo

          Had another person give me a 'heart to heart' on fukushima last night.

          Here was what he told me to cheer me up:

          'Look. Humans have a tendency to focus on the negative. But me, I always have hope. I always look for the possibility to find a solution. There is always a solution to things. We cannot give up. The Japanese people are smart and they have a great culture. I am a great fan, and I still plan on going back again soon. I love japanese food and hope to open a restaurant in tokyo one day.'

          He is a sincere, good person so I don't mean to laugh off his words of advice sarcastically. But I am stumped with this world that I live in. I agree with what zardoz said a while back. I feel like I am a visitor on this planet from the future, living amongst people who have no idea what is up ahead.


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          • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

            Denial is going to take many all the way..
            Humans don't have a tendency to focus on the negative.
            They don't have the attention span for it..and for modern society it is beyond the 'comfort' zone.

            So great is the comfort..that concerns large and small can be brushed off the sleeve..like crumbs at the diner table.

            Those with other opinions..opinions of discomfort..brushed off.

            We can only cast so much blame on the Japanese people..they do not have true control of the their government.. the same can be said of the US.

            Those that chose to wander in ignorance..denial..will not be able to be reached.
            Nor do many have the technological knowledge to understand the situation..or consequence.
            But to those that do..and are covering it up:

            There is really nothing more that can be said by you that is of value to civilization..
            The conversation will go on..to which you are not invited.
            The concepts that are to be discussed..in searching for a way..to enter into this in a more humane way.. even if proving failure…are beyond your comprehension.


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          • deedles deedles

            It's too big for people to believe or even to contemplate the logical outcome, IMO.

            I am fully well aware and still I can't even wrap my head around it.

            I cannot, cannot, fully integrate what is happening. I know it but it does. not. compute.


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    • SS4U SS4U

      Tracy posted : – What about the loud feminists?
      Aren't they concerned for their own daughters and grandchildren?

      ~~

      I am both a feminist and an enviornmentalist, and we have been speaking out.


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    • JMR

      Awesome post Tracy. These groups are silent on so many issues – like a US drone killing a 16 year old US citizen, or NSA spying, or countless other issues.

      But you forgot the biggest, loudest most hypocritical group of all – the Right to Lifers. Don't we all have the right not to be killed by radiation? How about those unborn children and babies they are so worked up about? This will kill more fetuses and babies than any number of abortion doctors will.


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    • zogerke zogerke

      Tracy W….how do you know that many folks on here already…are not from the groups you are naming….and are doing their best to spread the world, but are not part of MSM…and need to be undercover?


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    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      Tracy some of the groups you speak of are very aware , they will rise up , be patient , when this goes mainstream it's going to be very bad , you cannot fool people . Not this time . This will be sensationalized for sure . Remember cnn and the beginning and the terror ticker tape . Oh boy .m
      So please do not get discouraged .
      It's hard right now this is fear . How would you bring this to the public without disturbing the comfort zone . Right it's a hard one .
      Ducks are getting together .


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    • flatsville

      Tracy->>>What about the ecology movement? Isn't nuclear radiation a lot more lethal than CO2 and global warming?<<<

      Here and working.

      What about getting active in a group or writing a check to get the job done?


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  • weeman

    There is no logic with nuclear fission, the end of story is all ready written and it all depends if you think it is fiction or non fiction, the final chapter is the same, annihilation.

    We have uncontained release and no positive proof of actual realease amount or makeup of contamination and you know the amount of radioactive isotopes in fuel load of multiple meltdowns and you are not going to fully monitor, down to the last radioactive isotope.
    There is no safe level of radioactivity, it is linear in other word the higher the level, the more damage occurs, any increase in back ground radiation leads to more damage to genome, hence more cancers etc.
    Stop the madness, give a hoot don't pollute is even more relevant today.


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  • Nick

    Maybe it's time to tell the children. ?

    Think what a movement we could start if we educated them about the fact that we have stolen their
    adulthood from them, worldwide.

    San Francisco school children could lead a global info-war.

    Any takers?

    Or are we all too chicken-shit to admit the end of times?


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  • WR8D

    Do you west coast folks actually think they'll tell you the truth??


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  • hummina shadeeba

    Fukushimaresponse.org
    Is the bay area's organization getting the message out
    I live in san francisco

    Tracy W. i think people who understand nuclear physics and powerplants and waste are rare.

    The public schools were originally designed to build citizens who could competently steer our democracy.
    I still think the children are the people with the most possible vitality and the most to lose. If every public school gave a strong school presentation on the risks of nuclear power and the risks around us now….we could get some decent outrage.
    I teach and was handing out flyers to students and teachers. My own family told me not to because i might scare the kids! I think thats a good thing. I got way more response from students. They ask me question.
    Another obstacle i think is that unlike every other problem we encounter this one is virtually beyond the limitations of time.


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    • To hummina shadeeba,

      you are a teacher with a conscience. Thank you.

      Most schools these days are not preparing future citizens but INDOCTRINATING submission to the government and to politically correct beliefs, as dictated by unions and the government.

      Schools are perverting their mandate and force-feeding children leftist ideology, moral relativism – and other instructions that should have no place in schools.

      The present US administration is in favor of nuclear energy, so I don't think that most teachers would get very far with trying to tell children the horrible truth about it. If teachers and children start to make a difference, the school administration/union can find a way to stop them – under any kind of excuse.

      Again, thank you for doing what you do. Please keep us posted.


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    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      Fabulous org thank you for sharing


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  • hummina shadeeba

    Maybe we could round up enough money to get the word out on the street. We can pay people 10 an hour to talk to people on corners, hand out fliers, and maybe take contributions toward further educating. Its a classic method.

    When i say "we" i mean "you" can give money and "i" and a couple of my poor friends will spend our days on the busy streets for peanut pay and some satisfaction at being able to do something


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  • Nick

    student: "What's a whale.?"

    teacher: "A whale was a type of marine mammal that lived in the ocean."

    student: "What happened to them?"

    teacher: "Well, humans poisoned the ocean with nuclear radiation."

    student: "Why?"

    teacher: "Because they were too stupid to shut down the nuclear industry………."

    Children of the world, rise up, speak truth to power, end this insane industry now. Remind the adults that watching children play is way more cool than building bombs.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    You go, since the children must be told and they have a right to know that they are in the process of being exterminated by their parents/adults/leaders/elders.. :(


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  • Nick

    F2O

    Fukushima Fallout Organization

    Studying the radioactive disaster and dedicated to rallying the world to speak truth to power and all of the world's children.

    Only YOU can make a difference.

    Get started today. This minute. Don't waste a second, the future is at stake.


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  • We Not They Finally

    Love the "no reason for alarm pending scientific study." What if the "scientific study" becomes autopsies?


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  • name999 name999

    This site is amazing as we all keep trying to understand what is happening and what to do. Children don't have the resources to do anything about the toxic environment they have inherited. Meanwhile adults get dissociative, in denial. Then the disinformation machinery starts to amp up with all kinds of distortions and lies through mainstream media along with any other channels that can be penetrated via the internet. Here and there with determination and conviction to get some truthfulness, we find each other, a core of folks who are awake and aware and it is comforting, it is exciting to connect!
    Sadly, this environmental destruction is bearing down, massive deaths of sea life, extreme weather, trying to find a way to survive, to find a tolerable new normal…to have hope about the earth's future…grateful to not be alone with these realizations and thoughts…namaste!!!


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  • nedlifromvermont

    Go you 'newsers go. Up the hill, over the stone walls. Up and at 'em. Chase 'em till they drop!


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  • captvldz

    Im personally starting to believe this was done on purpose. Its almost as if they have a way out of this. Maybe they have developed a secret technology that wi clean the pollutants and themselves after we're a dead. Or maybe they have a secret city they built under the ice in Antarctica or under that airport in Denver i think. I think the bible says something about searching out evil men in their caves or underground?


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  • Shaker1

    Where and why aren't more groups that one would assume would be more vocal about this issue?

    Boils down to something pretty simple, yet very complex. In essence, they're chicken-shit and in this society (amybe all forever) one's value is in another's perception. We've become such binary thinkers thanks to some idea that one can actually be objective in one's life outside of distinct hard disciplines like math, to the belief that science is objective and unassailable because it is. People outside of their own particular disciplines trust someone that comes across authoritively as long as it somewhat conforms the what they can subjectively and physically discern. There is a distinct lack of trust in intuitive thinking, without the understanding that intuitive thinking is part and parcel of science.

    Ever had something that you've just naturally good at, that there's some understanding deep inside you that gives you insight that others have to learn? I'm a metal worker and also known as something today, a craftsman, a discussion most would apply to the arts. I've been accused of 'being lucky' with some of the things that I've done, especially things 'experts' say isn't practical. I get pissed over that 'lucky' perception of others, who somehow can't allow themselves to accept that one could be such with metal and won't allow the real explanation to even be entertained.

    In my view, the positive (not negative) human intuition should and does come…


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    • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

      Also, there are plenty of leaders who will take advantage of people's need to feel protected. That feeling of safety is exploited by everyone from religious leaders promising a happy afterlife to politicians using scare tactics to split people and pit them against each other. Behind them all are about 1500 top-rung Capitalists, reaping limitless profit.


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      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        You have a great insight and read on the ongoing Zeitgeist Matrix which has been/was designed a very, very long time ago.. :)

        Unless we all awaken soon, nuclear horror will fill the eyes of all the biological life still present here on Planet Earth.. :(

        Best to change our human imposed energy direction right now and end all Nuclear on this planet!


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  • Shaker1

    before all of what are considered 'great' ideas. If you're going to sit around and wait for 'proof' or objective description, moments pass one by, as this situation (Fukushima) is doing. One can't be afraid of being wrong, but one has to also know when one is and quit 'beating a dead horse'. One shouldn't have to allow the horse to stink to know it's dead.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Fukushima Radiation to Reach U.S. Coast at Safe Levels, NRC Says
    Dec.5 2013

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-06/fukushima-radiation-to-reach-u-s-coast-at-safe-levels-nrc-says.html

    I'll bet them a stale fruitcake..it isn't safe.


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    • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

      "The highest amount of radiation that will reach the U.S. is two orders of magnitude — 100 times — less than the drinking water standard,"

      Like watching Carson doing his old Carnac the Magnificent schtick.

      Say, what is the drinking water standard up to these days, anyway? They really should consider tying the stock market to it.


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  • Nick

    Be the change you want to see.

    The naysayers have had their turn now's it time for F2O to go viral.

    Nobody deserves to have their future destroyed, and yet we are all watching it slip away.

    To all you West Coasters….get pissed. Do something.

    Do not rely on any official line, any governmental agency anywhere to reveal the truth about nuclear
    anything.

    Wage Peace.

    Tomorrow is gone Love for today. Cherish the past.

    Can we really stomach telling our children this truth?

    but……Nick there has to be hope, how can you be so doom and gloomy?

    Why? Because my gut tells me.

    Go forth all ye who post here and spread the truth, and nothing but the truth, so help us all.


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  • Pete

    Im glad there not doing this in Washington State.

    Id hate for them to mention fukushima or the irradiated water plume and hot particle fallout here in Seattle and irradiated fish and milk that we dont test.

    Then people might think about it.


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  • lovE lovE

    My username heralds that we all will Evol now – the Frankenstorm is upon us. Woe to you who 'know not' and to you who know. Fukusall has set in motion 300-600 years of "Random, Compulsory, Genetic Enginnering For A The Rest Of Time"…

    Woe to the inhabitants of the Earth – to all its lifeforms. Think for a long time before you decide to have another child. I'm sure something "human" will probably survive but a bottle neck for our species clearly looms large as the generations pass. Be glad you live only in this generation so that you don't have to witness the "horrors of the Apoclaypse" that are already upon us.

    I wonder when the ObamaNation will "let us know what they know when they know it."


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  • Nick

    Keep geiger counters away from the Seattle fish market.

    Don't even think about having a lab test your car/home air filters.

    Pay no attention to a spike in nose-bleeeds.

    Let San Francisco sweat it, Seattlelites are too busy trying to out Silicon Silicon Valley.

    Be ware of FACEBOOK alarmists who actually know the truth.

    Hanford? Is that a breed of cow?


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  • lovE lovE

    Dirty Bomb Anyone?

    Police block Mexico hospital, 6 may have radiation

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_MEXICO_RADIOACTIVE_THEFT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-12-06-14-07-00

    " one person was dizzy and vomiting, which are symptoms of radiation poisoning.

    The atomic energy agency said the cobalt has an activity of 3,000 curries, or Category 1, meaning 'it would probably be fatal to be close to this amount of unshielded radioactive material for a period in the range of a few minutes to an hour'."


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    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      This Nuclear Radiation Contamination bullshit is hiding, sulking in every medical cranny/hospital in the country just waiting to poison you and give some one else cancer… :(

      Now it's being driven around on all our city streets for curb side poison treatment delivery? :(

      Just think how many cabs or buses you have been in after a person's thyroid or prostate cancer treatment.

      We are all being poisoned by radiation contamination in broad daylight and it's all perfectly legal! :(

      Many more strange radiological symptoms and diseases are heading this way!


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  • SadieDog

    Found another site to look at once in awhile, kinda like enenews… Without all of the cool people of course.
    http://fukushimaupdate.com/


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  • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

    A little Marin context that might explain the supervisors assumption that TEPCO is going to fix that nuclear plant right up:

    A friend of ours lives in Marin. Dressed as a TEPCO worker to take the kids trick-or-treating, complete with Tyvec ™ suit festooned with TEPCO logos and name, an old bright yellow Victoreen 715 (ionizing chamber high-level radaition detector, easily recognizable), yellow hard hat, etc. They said that out of all the houses visited, five recognized the costume…as a bug exterminator. One person engaged them in conversation & when told TEPCO runs the Fukushima Nuclear plant, the homeowner said (with a vacuous face), "Oh, is that near here?".

    The Marin of the 1970's that I knew in my younger days, home to environmentalists and earthy-crunchy communes, is obviously long dead. It's now apparently a great place to see Enzo's and even a Bugatti Veron in the summer (our youngest loves sports cars), and perhaps take in a few restaurants on the way to Sonoma for wine tasting, and of course, hiking (unless it's a jetstream day, of course)…but little else.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    It's really all about the" taxes" collected don't you know! :(


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  • frogs go ribbit frogs go ribbit

    Way to go American government… slowly waking up to the issue when it's pretty much too f'ing late. Like a frog in a boiling pan of water…


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  • jec jec

    Its really survival of the fittest..and fittest does mean IQ, situational awareness..and protection of the next generation. How does California rank?


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    • jump-ball jump-ball

      '…situational awareness…How does CA rank?':

      If you're in CA and you know tuna and Pacific seafood are out, San Joaquin valley vegetables, dairy, meat, fruit, nuts and rice are out, taking the kids to swim at the beach is out, exposing yourself to the rain is out, snow skiing is out, going barefoot is out, going back inside home in rain soaked hats, coats, clothes and shoes is out, exposing your hands when changing AC, heap, auto and industrial air filters is out, ordering ebay and amazon items marked 'Product of Japan' is out, and 10 or 20 other things, well, then count yourself totally out of the CA mainstream and in the top 1% of the top 1%.

      It's lonely at the top…


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  • ftlt

    This may have a silver lining for the fight against nuclear power…

    The rich and powerful lineup to live on the West Coast (right on it!!!)..

    From the San Juan to San Diego in the effete exclusive coastal burgs/enclaves.. It is always different when things affect them – wait and see..

    It's too late for FUFU… But, perhaps not for the all too shortly upcoming next meltdown in the world…

    I normally could careless, what these privileged scum suckers think politically… However in this case, I do – as it impacts us all somewhat equally..

    I can see Clint Eastwood in a tither spitting out his morning coffee now reading his copy of the "Carmel Cryer" and imagining his millions in investments there might start glowing in the dark..


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  • jec jec

    Dear Pres. Obama, Congress and Senators,
    Please cover all the costs for thyroid cancers, heart attacks and diabetes which you seem to be willing to ignore. Thyroid cancer can be ID if caused by radiation-which we have the information on. Since radiation is not something we purchase at the store..what about funding the treatments for my daughter's cancer? What about funding the care for a child born too early because of mothers exposure? And all the miscarriage and 'jellyfish' children around nuclear bomb test locations? Its not Obamacare to cover these human disasters..its the USA government's responsibility for technology deployment. God knows I wish it was different for my family; and I know many others feel the same.


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  • ****** TO EVERYONE WHO REPLIED TO MY TALKBACKS ******

    First of all, thank you for your comments. And then our deepest thanks to all of you who are doing your part in spreading information about Fukushima, in spite of public apathy and attempts by media, scientists, and government to play down the situation.

    ~~~~~~~~~~

    Professional and well-organized activists are prone to start boycotts and propaganda campaigns. They use social media and colorful demonstrations to spread the word. Never mind the nature of their campaigns. They get publicity, and very often they get results as well.

    Now, however, organized groups have a truly worthy cause to support: to fight against Japan's brazen radioactive poisoning of our oceans and our entire world ecosystem – because doing the proper thing from day one would have cost Japan too much money. And to fight against the nuclear industry and our governments' silence about the true extent of this tragedy.

    But Fukushima radiation does not target exclusively any of the activists' racial/national/gender/social/ideological Pet Groups – so there is no reaction. No demonstrations at Japanese consulates, no boycotts.

    Which raises the suspicion that many (not all) mass campaigns, such as the Occupy movement, and the anti-CO2 movement, may have been orchestrated by the puppet masters themselves – and sometimes with hidden motives as well. Nothing is what it seems.

    http://ottersandsciencenews.blogspot.ca/


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    • bo bo

      I tend to agree, even the opposition, and even 'conspiracy theorists' are controlled


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    • flatsville

      Tracy- re: Pet groups and puppet masters..Most groups either take on too many issues with too few resources and become ineffective or develop tunnel vision re: theeir particular issue to avoid becoming ineffective.

      Here's a list of JapGov embassies and consulates in the US.

      Make a sign. Hit the streets.

      http://www.us.emb-japan.go.jp/visa/map.htm


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      • To Flatsville,

        Lack of resources may be the problem for some small activist groups – even though almost everything is possible with social media these days.

        But groups with the loudest voices are very SELECTIVE of what causes they take up. They reek of hypocrisy. They ignore the most blatant abuses to human rights all over the world and they concentrate on an easy target, one whose criticism will have no repercussions for them personally.

        I could write pages about this, and how they get funded by governments and organizations with a political agenda. Don't get me started.

        I have no respect for them.

        But this time – by their silence about Fukushima – "HUMAN RIGHTS" activists and organizations are being UNMASKED for what they are – activists for hire, or motivated by hate and biased to the core.

        Regarding ecological organizations, they were very likely infiltrated decades ago, and so they continue to follow their script that CO2 is the biggest threat to the planet, and ignoring nuclear power plants.

        The present US administration is in favor of NPP, so the media and the public are avoiding the issue. They treat the Fukushima disaster as an aberration.

        ~~~~~~~~

        So it will be up to regular folks without leadership to keep raising the issue.

        As I mentioned before, since this radiation does not specifically target the main activist organizations' PET GROUPS, they ignore it.

        http://ottersandsciencenews.blogspot.ca/


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        • flatsville

          Tracy, I am not sure to which main activists groups with the loudest voices you are referring.

          Having a "loud voice" does not equate to having an effective voice that produces results. It is only a start.

          Since much can be accomplished with social media, I look forward to your picket of JapGov consulates in the US and the embassy in DC on the 3rd anniversary of Fukushima.


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    • flatsville

      And there's nothing that says US citizens can't protest Japan's State Secrets Law on behalf of the Japanese People on US soil…and carry Fuku signs to make the connection clear.

      Make a sign. Hit the streets.

      All in an orderly fashion of course…


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  • Mack Mack

    "If you live in the San Francisco Bay Area, you may be surprised to learn that "more than 47,800 drums and other containers of low-level radioactive waste were dumped onto the ocean floor west of San Francisco between 1946 and 1970."

    http://socket.kongshem.com/2007/10/farallon-islands-nuclear-waste-dump.html

    'Crosby, Stills, & Nash' wrote a song about it called "Barrel of Pain"

    Lyrics and song here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNVO9rVs-yE


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  • retali8 retali8

    Panic buying of salt in belief that iodine will help prevent radiation contamination

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kotADdrnVH8

    Worried Chinese shoppers stripped stores of salt in cities across China on Thursday in the false belief it can guard against radiation exposure even though any fallout from a crippled Japanese nuclear power plant is very unlikely to reach China.

    These chinese are pretty smart, probably there rad alarms went off, but its good to have some awareness globally on this issue AS IT AFFECTS US ALL, INCLUDING YOU WHO IS READING THIS,, the trolls/shills all over the internet protecting nuclear & there precious incomes make me so sick,, i want to smash there faces.. what a joke,,


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  • Socrates

    There are two types of radiation: ("good"radiation, coming from friendly sources such as Japan, the UK or the US); and ("bad" radiation, coming from Iran or North Korea).

    Mother Nature sees no difference, but talking heads spend all day, every day, 24/7/365 on the boob-tube, "Bla, bla, bla!"

    "Be afraid, be very afraid!"

    "But do NOT worry one bit if all that radiation comes to us as an 'accident.'"

    This is what amazes me; the exact catastrophe occurs through their own criminal negligence but that is downplayed while the mere potential of hostile persons releasing radiation has consumed the entire propaganda for the past six decades. If it is so dangerous, get rid of it.

    Never ask who has actually spread 100% of the radiation around the world to date.

    The greatest threat to us is ourselves. History shows us TMI, Chernobyl, Santa Susana, Fukushima, Hanford…..

    Yet these proven incidences are played down. Orwellian, Kafkaesque, propaganda where up is down and down is up. It's a Topsy turvy world said Alice. Ant the White knight is talking backwards…


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    • Socrates

      With all the bla, bla, bla…. The nuclear industry points the finger of blame at the Axis of Evil – an imaginary foe. Machias elle developed the technique of frightening the stupid masses, a New Pearl Harbor, if you will, to stir up the masses, to mobilize them in advance against any foe, real or imagined, to prevent or deter an attack in advance. This is what a Prince must do.

      I am sick of the duck and cover, bomb, bomb, Iran business while I get nuked from Fukushima where they cut corners to make a few dollars more.

      "Scare the He'll out of 'em, Harry!!" said General Vandenberg to Harry Truman to keep the bucks rolling in for even more WMD.

      Nuclear is a pay op to line someone's pockets. It is a one – way ticket to Hell. The nuclear juggernaut can not be stopped until it kills us all. It is the greatest suicide machine of all time.


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      • Socrates

        As I look out my window and see the sun rising over the desert, I know that we have been dusted by the plutonium and that time – release cesium 137 and strontium 90 are heading g our way, polluting our fields of agriculture, contaminating out orchards, and polluting our orchards.

        In Marin, there are many cancer clusters. One of my best friends died from living in the Bay Area where all the nuke freaks made weapons and conducted research, but they did not clean up their toys, in fact, they couldn't. I lived up there myself in the 50s. My friend did research until he died. I have news for the Granola as he called them, prior to Fukushima there were many cancer clusters.

        Many in the Bay area eat granola and are unaware that there are pockets of radiation from the research and Navy from the Cold War and testing. They are in denial. Eating granola will not protect you.


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        • Socrates

          People want to sleep – walk through life about nuclear because it protects them and powers the electrical grid. So be it. Don't see the dark side until the nuke industy stockpiles nuclear waste enough to kill every one and either human error, design flaws, faulty assumptions, turrists, ect., take us to our Maker. Like John Belushi, "I can handle it!"

          I know a good place to store all that waste – aside from storage pools five stories up.

          We should have a requiem for the ocean. We should grieve our losses. Morne the dead as this plague descends upon the ecosystem.


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          • Socrates

            Joseph Campbell knew the power of myth; Jung the power of the archetype, Freud the power of the unconscious mind.

            There is a monster lurking in our dreams beyond our consciousness. Einstein told us that nuclear changed everything except man himself. Nine eleven changed nothing but politics. To me nuclear remains the greatest threat to mankind because of Murphy's Law. No law of physics says that nuclear energy or weapons are unsafe. "But to err is human," said Shakespeare. And we cannot afford a single mistake, yet we have had many.


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  • Madashell10 Madashell10

    To say that 1 nuke meltdown a yr is far off the mark watch the maps
    over at RSOE EDIS Disaster Info and you would be suprised that earlier this week 12/2/13 there was 2 nuk events in New York NJ
    and another in Penns PA just cooling leaks and the normal sorts of power outage . Now have been removed from there info description pages . I tried to get a screenshot of the data only to have it blank
    And now i see that there facebook page is missing info from Nov 11-
    Dec 4 . Wonder why? ………….Can anyone else help to confirm or deny this ….


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