TV: A force beyond human control was unleashed at Fukushima, says former top U.S. nuclear official — Impossible to stop radioactive groundwater flowing into Pacific (VIDEO)

Published: September 25th, 2013 at 12:59 am ET
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NTD TV, Sept. 24, 2013: Former head of U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC), Gregory Jaczko, says radioactive leaks from Japan’s crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant mixed with ground water are impossible to control. [...] Jaczko: “What was unleashed was a force beyond human control. What you can do is try and mitigate that but you can’t really control it. You cannot control groundwater.” [...] Tepco has proposed to spend hundreds-of-millions of dollars on a “ice wall” to freeze soil surrounding the reactors and halt the flow of groundwater to the sea. [...] Watch the broadcast here

ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), Sept. 25, 2013: [...] Mark Willacy, Tokyo correspondent: Speaking to foreign journalists in Tokyo, the former chairman of the United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission Gregory Jaczko was asked if the groundwater situation at Fukushima really was under control. [...] Jaczko: What was unleashed was a force beyond human control. What you can do is try and mitigate that but you can’t really control it. You cannot control groundwater. [...] Willacy: But Washington’s former chief nuclear regulator Gregory Jaczko seems to think [the "ice wall"] could all be a colossal waste of time and money. Jaczko: Whatever system you build is going, groundwater will find a way around it and into it and affect it [...] water is a terribly potent entity in that regard. [...] ABC News broadcast here

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Published: September 25th, 2013 at 12:59 am ET
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28 comments to TV: A force beyond human control was unleashed at Fukushima, says former top U.S. nuclear official — Impossible to stop radioactive groundwater flowing into Pacific (VIDEO)

  • MichaelV MichaelV

    This latest spate of announcements lead me to believe the end of Japan as we have known it.

    What's next, demonstrations, arrests, martial law, and then the final collapse?

    Or, all of that at once?

    They'll never admit the true extent of Fukushima, and that exacerbates the disaster.


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  • or-well or-well

    A Force – beyond human control!
    Netizens on bullshit patrol!
    Oh wait…what's that rabbit hole…
    it's the Nukist Lies Toilet Bowl!
    The Champions of Deception and Spin
    battle for your minds to win!
    As caustic as cheap bathtub gin
    or as smooth as champagne on skin (yum)
    they'll refuse to let any truth in
    past the bafflegab full-volume din
    they spew for decades on end.

    Better stop and get on topic.
    Man oh monkee Nukists love the concept of control.
    How awful anything should be outside of it.
    Damn water. Slips right through regulatory cracks.
    But a good Nukist oughta know about diversion!


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    • or-well or-well

      That's diversion GJ, as in your soothing talk of all stakeholders at the table when you know the reins are out of the hands of all but the few.

      And that includes you GJ doesn't it?

      As one who, far from being shunned by the faithful of the church of Nukism, far from begging for scraps in the alley behind Nuclear street, you are in fact one of the powerful insiders.

      You are on the Board of the Congressional Advisory Panel on the Governance of the Nuclear Security Enterprise.
      You are one of those who oversee the National Nuclear Security Administration, whose parent organisation is the Department of Energy.

      You're hardly an outsider or maverick or rebel.

      In fact, you are well positioned to assist the promotion of modular nuclear power plants and transition to a position in private nuclear industry should the opportunity arise.


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      • We Not They Finally

        But he was also sort of kicked out of being head of the NRC. it is better that he gives these kind of interviews than that he doesn't. His sincerity and evolution will be tested for sure as we go along. It's just that almost NO ONE who has been an insider goes even this far. That's wrong and that's bad. But if Jaczko wants to help at all, I say let him.


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    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Yes,Or-well has a point. Diversion is not a bad idea.

      Building an ice wall uphill of the plants might help.

      Trouble is, it won't completely fix it if the cores have gone China syndrome. Are they 1500 feet down by now? Someone said 2 inches an hour, I think. But I wouldn't mind seeing them build a ice wall uphill as deep as they think they could do it.


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  • many moons

    Excuse me…Force that was unleashed????
    No, force that was created out of greed and hubris that is beyond human control. And there's a lot more where that came from.


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    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Stupidity was unleashed. Now it's running all over the park pissing every tree.


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      agreed many moons. I'll add, though I respect Jaczko for his honest interpretations of Fukushima's present condition, such frankness on the dangers of this deadly technology would've been more valuable, during his tenure at the NRC. It is precisely due to the past silence of these 'professionals', that we find ourselves lamenting this "…unleashed . . . force beyond human control."

      It now remains a matter of getting pro-nuke pundits to cease their collective denial of an undeniable catastrophe and to undertake the development of viable site-remediation projects. Just as these same 'denialists' assured us that nuclear technologies posed little threat to our planetary environment, I'll not accept the idea that there's nothing that can be done to ameliorate the ongoing damage from these meltdowns…especially, from these same people!

      I believe that with the cooperation of our best technologists (yes…that includes nuke-industry professionals as well as others), environmentalists, economists and public service personnel, we can develop long-term solutions to this nightmare. We must never accept the idea that lying down is our only option! If there ever was a moment in the continuum, now is the time for all humanity to join in the beating of swords into plowshares. Accepting anything less is a betrayal of all our security…and future…


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    The only problem was allowing nuclear in the first place.


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  • rogerthat

    Jaczko i think has seen the light. My recollection is that he was forced off the NRC because he wanted the US nuclear industry to do more to improve safety after the Fuku catastrophe. He has effectively said that US plants are currently inherently unsafe. His latest comment on Fuku: “What was unleashed was a force beyond human control. What you can do is try and mitigate that but you can’t really control it. You cannot control groundwater.” It seems to me he is telling people that the entire nuclear inventory at Fuku is, eventually, going to end up in the sea. That's pretty honest, i think. Two and a half years late, ha ha, but does it make any difference? I think the US nuclear industry and the see no evil, hear no evil politicians knew this was the position from day one – it was obvious enough.


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  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    Jaczko thought it was a good idea to generate the most toxic material in the universe, which has no storage plan and will ruin all life on earth if it gets out of control, which it does rather often. Even many a man in the psych ward would hesitate to do that. Grasp the magnitude; perpetrators of actual doom day machines are bonkers


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  • We Not They Finally

    Yeah, Japan's "brilliant" tech community built a complex of six huge nuclear reactors, complete with 40 years of nuclear waste by now, on porous soil, over an aquifer, on an earthquake fault, and right on the ocean. The lunatics who did that deserve whatever they get. But the PEOPLE there should have long since been evacuated.


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Pull the plug on all of them. We can't figure out what to do with the waste now. The technology exists to power everything without the nuke plants. If everyone in the nuclear industry was put to work decommissioning all of them, there would be work doing that probably forever.


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  • Sol Man

    Everything is beyond troubling. The report that it is the number of 210 quadrillion becquerels of CS137 that has leaked into the atmosphere thus far. And then, the report that they may well be off by 1,000% in their reporting of these numbers.

    So what does that do to the 210 quadrillion number?

    Humans may not have the ability to comprehend the severity of the problem that has been created here.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    The flow of information..may be able to be suppressed..
    But everyday more people around the world are becoming aware of the truth.
    Japan changing ..yes…in many painful ways.
    Stop the groundwater ..never…as 'long as the river flows'.


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  • WWJD WWJD

    If interested, I watched the complete video yesterday and noted highlights and at what point in the video to go to and see them.

    https://www.netc.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=373


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    My heart goes out to the Japanese people. Their lives have been forever changed. I have been scared stiff since that happened on 311 and I try and joke about it a little. I saw one Enenews article about this (how the interviewed family in Japan no longer eat fish in 2011) and no one even really address the sadness of such great changes. Everyone was talking about this and that on the thread. I can understand though. It affects us all, and it's easy to be impersonal about it. It's easy to blame them for it. But we have those nuke plants here, too. We too are in possession of weapons of mass destruction. I think it's time for a collective guilt trip. I don't eat fish hardly ever anymore. The Japanese don't sell me fish much anymore. Neither do any other peoples. I love fish. Hold the radiation, thanks. You nuketards suck.


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    … I had just learned to like sushi, too. I could get mad about it but I don't think it will do any good. I sure as hell won't get happy about it. It ain't helping any collective subconscious, I know that. The concept of karma comes to mind. We bomb Japan with nukes. Now we are all suffering from nukes. When karma comes bouncing back at some people, it's better to be far away. I guess this kind of slow radiation poisoning makes it hard for those waiting to jump into their mind-body spaceships to bug out. Should I go now…maybe now…maybe tomorrow…maybe now? Maybe tomorrow? OK, yesterday! No, maybe last week. Oh, hell, I missed it!


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  • Urban27

    So mr Jacxko dont beleave Tepco. NOr do I. And many more. But what is it we are witnessing? The "free" capitalistic World incapable to take action, when it is needed.
    Now it is needed to do something like soviet system made. One Chernobyl needed 600.000 men to make it relative safe. This is worse. And not doing what is needed – it is like sitting and waiting for the poison to poison the World.
    Is this what we are witnessing the incapablility of the "free" World? The potential of this poison is tremendous. It need to be stopped at any cost!


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    And just think..every nuclear reactor in the world has this capacity.
    All the ones hanging precariously on the coast lines of California.
    Even the ones on supposed solid ground ..when melt down occurs the corium will enter the ground..contaminate the ground water..and cause unknown geological damage below.
    here.
    I would note hypothesis has moved on to this area..


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  • Remembering recent comments about the melting louisiana salt domes…"we've never seen anything like this before"…
    "it's a first for the industry"…"the engineers have no idea"….
    next thing ya' know they'll be holding prayer meetings!
    instead of fixing anything…they are relentless criminals..
    all of them…


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