TV: Fukushima “is the most important issue going on in the world, everyone should stop what they’re doing and work together” — Newspaper Editor: Gov’t afraid to look into Fukushima as it could lead to destruction of fishing industry on West Coast (VIDEO)

Published: January 13th, 2014 at 7:45 pm ET
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Daily Nexus (UC Santa Barbara), Opinion Editor Emile Nelson, Jan. 9, 2014: Start Thinking Fukushima [...] it is impossible to avoid seeing and feeling the effects of this tragedy, even here in sunny Santa Barbara. [...] Recently, there has been a great deal of concern surrounding the potential consequences of this kind of radiation: Is our seafood still safe to eat? Is the Pacific Ocean still swimmable? How far could the radiation reach if it is actually a part of the Pacific’s ecosystem? [...] Fearing that exploring these questions further could lead to the destruction of the fishing industry of the Pacific Ocean, it is a difficult topic for any official government agency to address and, thus, the uncertainty remains. [...] Santa Barbara needs to start paying attention to how the aftermath of the crisis at Fukushima is being handled because it will absolutely affect our future, one way or another. If we want to keep our community safe from the effects of this tragedy, we need to remind the world that we are watching and paying attention and that we will not simply stand by as our world deteriorates. Think something, write something, say something or do something, just don’t ignore the fact that one day, safely surfing or even walking the beach at UCSB may be nothing but a bittersweet memory.

Breaking the Set, RT, Jan. 9, 2014 (at 24:00 in):

Abby Martin, host: This is the most important issue going on in the world. Everyone should stop what they’re doing and work together. What can the average person do? Because I’m feeling really helpless [...] I’m from California, my family’s there — what can we do to combat this, any advice?

Mimi German, RadCast.org: I think that we have to look at mitigation. We can’t get rid of the fallout, we can’t get rid of what’s happening at Fukushima. No one can, that’s the problem with Fukushima. It’s going to be a perpetual disaster to us everywehere on the planet for thousands of years to come. What we can do is if we got monitors for instance, we can do our own testing in our own area.

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Published: January 13th, 2014 at 7:45 pm ET
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154 comments to TV: Fukushima “is the most important issue going on in the world, everyone should stop what they’re doing and work together” — Newspaper Editor: Gov’t afraid to look into Fukushima as it could lead to destruction of fishing industry on West Coast (VIDEO)

  • Besides fixing Fukushima, we should also keep in mind the limited positive effect of feeding the trolls. Carry on with links, facts, and activism. Get in their face.


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    • Gradius

      R.I.P. 800,000 japaneses victim of Fukushima and fucking TEPCO.

      Not even 3 years. And we already got that number.


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    • socref

      You have too much hatred in your heart. Why are you afraid of people with a difference of opinion than you?


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    • ocifferdave

      "…keep the activism going, get in their face."

      Roger that.

      For every 'Socref' comment in the comment section I will post that many links to enenews.com at news sites in and around the West Coast and nationally under articles relating to nuclear.

      For every comment section that has 5 or more comments by 'Socref', a special 'achievement' will unlocked, meaning I will print out in large bold letters DON'T EAT PACIFIC FISH and pin it on the local supermarket's bulletin board. It will have some precut 'enenews.com' tear-offs on the bottom.

      For every day that 'Socref' comments on each and every article, I will send out one postcard that says on the backside DON'T EAT PACIFIC FISH and ENENEWS.COM in white with a black background and send it to Universities on the West Coast addressed to the student government.

      'Socref' will be the fertilizer that fuels my will.

      TS (Thanks Socref)


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  • RememberThis RememberThis

    Some have been saying this from the beginning….only few listened.

    Now…almost 3 years later. Will anyone pay attention, is your child cleaning a beach in Cali? (That's Manslaughter!)

    We have multiple cores via groundwater, and fuel pellet immersion direct into the Pacific. Reacting with salt water in ways we cant imagine.

    And its only going to get worse. Significant preparation measures could be undertaken with ease. Yet none have come about….why?


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  • I'll be heading to Japan in March or April. That will be interesting. Will have to dose up with my radiation repellents, ouch.


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  • HoTaters HoTaters

    "Whether or not the Pacific is already contaminated …."

    Oh, it is.

    http://enenews.com/study-fukushima-radiation-plume-contacted-north-america-greatest-exposure-central-southern-california

    Do you remember the story which stated several billion Bq of Iodine 131 were found in the kelp off Southern California?


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      "40,000,000 Bq of iodine-131 in a single bed of kelp off Southern California — Amount most likely larger"

      http://enenews.com/40000000-bq-of-iodine-131-in-a-single-bed-of-kelp-off-southern-california-amount-most-likely-larger


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      • socref

        Thats barely a microCurie. Not really a lot of radiation.

        I know you think 40e6 Bq is a large number but it really isnt.


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        • MVB Michael Van Broekhoven

          You can belittle the extremity of this formerly highly contaminated kelp bed, all you want, but this translated to kelp containing:

          - Corona Del Mar (Highest in Southern California): 2.5 Bq/gdwt (gram dry weight)= 2,500 Bq/kg of I-131 in dry seaweed
          - Santa Cruz (Highest in Central California): 2.0 Bq/gdwt = 2,000 Bq/kg of I-131 in dry seaweed

          That is an extremely high high amount, socref. It is practically criminally negligent that this data was only revealed the next year, and not immediately after the test results were known to the researchers in 2011.

          Of all seaweed data I have looked at, it stands out as extreme, even compared to Japan. (It's included in my review of 200,000 sample records: "According to Japanese Lab tests, Japanese seaweeds are perfectly safe.": http://wp.me/puwO9-2oq


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      • RememberThis RememberThis

        Good to see you pipe in!!!

        Do so more my friend!


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      • ENENews

        Hey RT. HT, you're quick. Anyone recall if that I-131 amount is what was found on the test date, or the amount calculated to have been there initially in March 2011 before decay?


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        • RememberThis RememberThis

          Damn good question.

          Has a half life of 8 days or so as we know.
          Either it was deposited by a storm system as a precipitated/downdrafted gas.
          Or…a local chain reaction was taking place

          ……SONGS?


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        • Jebus Jebus

          WNA says,

          The accident was rated 7 on the INES scale, due to high radioactive releases over days 4 to 6, eventually a total of some 940 PBq (I-131 eq).

          http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Safety-and-Security/Safety-of-Plants/Fukushima-Accident/


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        • Jebus Jebus

          Wiki says,

          Air Releases

          Iodine-131

          A widely cited Austrian Meteorological Service report estimated the total amount of I-131 radiation released into the air as of 19 March based on extrapolating data from several days of ideal observation at some of its worldwide CTBTO radionuclide measuring facilities (Freiburg, Germany; Stockholm, Sweden; Takasaki, Japan and Sacramento, USA) during the first 10 days of the accident.[57][77] The report's estimates of total I-131 emissions based on these worldwide measuring stations ranged from 10 PBq to 700 PBq.[77] This estimate was 1% to 40% of the 1760 PBq[77][78] of the I-131 estimated to have been released at Chernobyl.[57]

          A later, 12 April 2011, NISA and NSC report estimated the total air release of iodine-131 at 130 PBq and 150 PBq, respectively – about 30 grams.[67] However, on 23 April, the NSC revised its original estimates of iodine-131 released.[71] The NSC did not estimate the total release size based upon these updated numbers, but estimated a release of 0.14 TBq per hour on 5 April.[71][72]

          …cont


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          • Jebus Jebus

            On 22 September the results were published of a survey conducted by the Japanese Science Ministry. This survey showed that radioactive iodine was spread northwest and south of the plant. Soil samples were taken at 2,200 locations, mostly in Fukushima Prefecture, in June and July, and with this a map was created of the radioactive contamination as of 14 June. Because of the short half-life of 8 days only 400 locations were still positive. This map showed that iodine-131 spread northwest of the plant, just like caesium-137 as indicated on an earlier map. But I-131 was also found south of the plant at relatively high levels, even higher than those of caesium-137 in coastal areas south of the plant. According to the ministry, clouds moving southwards apparently caught large amounts of iodine-131 that were emitted at the time. The survey was done to determine the risks for thyroid cancer within the population.[79]

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_effects_from_the_Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster#Iodine-131


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        • Jebus Jebus

          And here is probably closer to the truth…

          31 times as much Iodine-129 than I-131 from Fukushima.

          http://www.terrapub.co.jp/journals/GJ/pdf/4604/46040327.pdf


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          • arclight2 arclight2

            great link to iodine 129 (little talked about and often found)it lasts a long time
            Iodine-129 has a half-life of 15.7 million years

            thxs for the link

            did it wash away? do they not count beta?


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          • American Phoenix57

            Iodine 131 is the one of the nuclear industry's red herrings. . . Lull's everyone to back sleep with the "8 day" pro nuke lullaby. Don't worry lil' darlings the danger will pass in a week and then we can have Emile's B-day party on the beach. No problemo! Spell it out! It's destructive for the full 80 days it's in your body! Same for the other two Cesiums and Strontium. Never post the half life bullshit! Tell the truth no matters how many Zero's! Always remember it's the 129 that's going to fry everyone's thyroid forever, long after the 131's gone. 2 drops of the original Lugol's 5% will help. Learn how to use it correctly here.

            http://a7.video2.blip.tv/10680001091850/Drhopwood-iodine573.flv?ri=238628&rs=1316


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            • American Phoenix57

              Radioactive elements are deceptively listed in their decay rate of "half-life". A term which indicates that half of a know amount of radioactive material has been expended over a set amount of time. This leads to underestimating (most lay people mistakenly multiply by 2) the total radioactive life of these toxic elements in our environment and the infinite natural of these deadly isotopes.

              The actual total radiological lifespan is the half life x 10 or 20, which is the truthful total time these elements pose a danger to all life on the planet. The longer the half life, the more one has to multiply to get the longer half life total decay time.

              This list is just some of the longest lived radio nucleides present in nuclear power plant emissions, spent fuel leaks, cooling pond evaporation, legal venting, accidents, melt downs and fallout from nuclear bomb explosions or nuclear accidents like Chernobyl and Fukushima.


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              • American Phoenix57

                Partial Radioactive Isotope list:

                Holmium-166m – 1,200 x 10 = 12,000 years total
                Berkelium-247 – 1,380 x 10 = 13,000 years total
                Radium-226 – 1,600 x 10 = 16,000 years total
                Molybdenum -93 4,000 x 10 = 40,000 years total
                Holmium-153 – 4,570 x 10 = 45,000 years total
                Curium-246 – 4,730 x 10 = 47,000 years total
                Carbon-14 – 5,730 x 10 = 57,000 years total
                Plutonium-240 – 6,563 x 10 = 65,000 years total
                Thorium-229 – 7,340 x 10 = 73,000 years total
                Americium-243 – 7,370 x 10 = 73,000 years total
                Curium-245 – 8,500 x 10 = 85,000 years total
                Curium-250 – 9,000 x 10 = 90,000 years total
                Tin-126 – 10,000 x 10 = 100,000 years total
                Iodine-129 – 15,700 x 10 = 157,000 years total
                Niobium-94 – 20,300 x 10 = 230,000 years total
                Plutonium-239 – 24,110 x 10 = 240,000 years total


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                • American Phoenix57

                  Proactinium-231 – 32,760 x 10 = 327,000 years total
                  Lead-202 – 52,500 x 10 = 537,000 years total
                  Lanthanium-137 – 60,000 x 10 = 600,000 years total
                  Thorium-230 – 75,380 x 20 = 750,000 years total
                  Nickel-59 – 76,000 x 20 = 1,520,000 years total
                  Thorium-230 – 77,000 x 20 = 1,540,000 years total
                  Calcium-41 – 103,000 x 20 = 2,060,000 years total
                  Neptunium-236 – 154,000 x 20 = 3,080,000 years total
                  Uranium-233 – 159,200 x 20 = 3,184,000 years total
                  Rhenium-186m – 200,000 x 20 = 4,000,000 years total
                  Technetium-99 – 211,000 x 20 = 4,220,000 years total
                  Krypton-81 – 229,000 x 20 = 4,580,000 years total
                  Uranium-234 – 245,500 x 20 = 4,910,000 years total
                  Chlorine-36 – 301,000 x 20 = 6.000,000 years total
                  Curium-248 – 340,000 x 20 = 6,800,000 years total
                  Bismuth-208 – 368,000 x 20 = 7,360,000 years total


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                  • American Phoenix57

                    Plutonium-242 – 373,300 x 20 = 7,466,000 years total
                    Aluminum-26 – 717,000 x 20 = 14,340,000 years total
                    Selenium-79 – 1,130,000 x 20 = 22,600,000 years total
                    Iron-60 – 1,500,000 x 20 = 30 MILLION years total
                    Beryllium-10 – 1,510,000 x 20 = 30 MILLION years total
                    Zircon-93 – 1,530,000 x 20 = 30 MILLION years total
                    Curium-247 – 1,560,000 x 20 = 30 MILLION years total
                    Gadolinium-150 – 1,790,000 x 20 = 34 MILLION years total
                    Neptunium-237 – 2,144,000 x 20 = 42 MILLION years total
                    Cesium-135 – 2,300,000 x 20 = 46 MILLION years total
                    Technetium-96 – 2,600,000 x 20 = 52 MILLION years total
                    Dysprosium-154 – 3,000,000 x 20 = 60 MILLION years total
                    Bismuth-310m – 3,040,000 x 20 = 60 MILLION years total
                    Mietnerium-53 – 3,740,000 x 20 = 74 MILLION years total
                    Technetium-98 – 4,200,000 x 20 = 82 MILLION years total
                    Palladium-107 – 6,500,000 x 20 = 130 MILLION years total
                    Hafnium-182 – 9,000,000 x 20 = 180 MILLION years total


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                    • American Phoenix57

                      Lead-205 – 15,300,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Curium-247 – 15,600,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Uranium-236 – 23,420,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Niobium-92 – 34,700,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Plutonium-244 – 80,800,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Samarium-146 – 103,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Uranium-236 – 234,200,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Uranium-235 – 703,800,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Potassium-40 – 1,280,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Uranium-238 – 4,468,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Rubidium-87 – 4,750,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Thorium-232 – 14,100,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Lutetium-176 – 37,800,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Rhenium-187 – 43,500,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Lanthanium-138 – 105,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Samarium-147 – 106,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Platinum-190 – 650,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER


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                    • American Phoenix57

                      Tellurium-123 – 10,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Osmium-184 – 560,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Gadolinium-152 – 1,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Tantalum-180m – 1,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Xenon-124 – 100,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Indium-115 – 400,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Zinc-70 – 5,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Hafnium-174 – 2,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Osmium-186 – 2,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Samarium-149 – 2,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Neodymium-144 – 2,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Samarium-148 – 7, 000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Cadmium-113 – 8,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Cerium-142 – 50,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Tungsten-183 – 100,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Vanadium-50 – 100,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Lead-204 – 100,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER


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                    • American Phoenix57

                      Chromium-50 – 100,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Tungsten-184 – 300,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Calcium-48 – 6,000,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Molybdenum-100 – 10,000,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Neodynium-150 – 10,000,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Zircon-96 – 40,000,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Selenium-82 – 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Tellurium-130 – 800,000,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Xenon-136 – 2,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER
                      Tellurium-128 – 2,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 x 20 = FOREVER

                      OK, I'm better now. Hat tip to Dr.Goodheart for getting the snowball rolling. I'm the retard of the group so I'm sure I fucked that baby up somewhere. . . my apologies in advance.


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              • jec jec

                And Chernobyl shows how Cesium does NOT decay the way it is supposed to…


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              • socref

                This is all level 1 basic stuff to a garden variety nuclear scientist and engineer.


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                • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

                  SOCREF, please explain to me why Germany, the birth place of some of the greatest scientific minds in history, is abandoning nuclear power? Using your past comments as a resource, they're ignorant fools, morons, anti-nuke wackos, uneducated ignoramus' ad nauseam. So answer the question: why are you right and Germany is wrong?!

                  Answer my question here or give me the link.


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                • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

                  Why won't you answer my question Mr. Blackwell??? Answer here or give me the link.


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          • Jebus Jebus

            US Scientists publish report on I-131 I-129 and Be-7 from Fukushima meltdown

            The levels of radioactivity they found in the US is a direct consequence of a nuclear reactor’s explosion and meltdown half a world away, says Joshua Landis, a research associate in the Department of Earth Science.

            The paper reports that testing in New Hampshire’s Mink Brook watershed during March through May 2011 showed the amount of radioactive iodine deposition in the soil was on the order of 6,000 atoms per square meter.

            Sampling of Mink Brook stream sediments showed a doubling of iodine concentrations relative to what was found in soils.

            “If you have a recent event like Fukushima, you are going to have both present. The iodine-131 is going to decay away pretty quickly over the course of weeks, but the iodine-129 is there forever, essentially,” Landis says. However, he explains, “Once the iodine-131 decays, you lose your ability to track the migration of either isotope.”

            http://enformable.com/2012/04/us-scientists-publish-report-on-i-131-i-129-and-be-7-from-fukushima-meltdown/

            http://www.pnas.org/content/109/11/4064.short


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        • arclight2 arclight2

          The radioactivity had no known effects on the giant kelp, or on fish and other marine life, and it was undetectable a month later.

          Iodine 131 “has an eight-day half life so it’s pretty much all gone,”

          From the scientific american
          So, it was possibly done after 2 months if it was undectible a month later.. means the initial dose must have been VERY high in Bq`s?

          Also, CRIIRAD gave the warning in france
          http://www.euractiv.com/health/radiation-risks-fukushima-longer-news-503947

          the USA on average got ten times the french measurement..


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        • I'm pretty sure it was detected empirically


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      • arclight2 arclight2

        hi hotaters talking of kelp

        a couple of interesting links found here…
        http://nuclear-news.net/2014/01/13/seafood-industry-counters-fukushima-misinformation/
        total pr hyprocrasy.. berkeley STARTS testing to find out the full impact while the pr machine claims that this has already bben done..
        good night enenewsers :)


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      • Aloha Admin, if you have chance review this 2011 June testing in Alaska.

        I can't believe this is not going viral. I data mined this last week.

        Fukushima at 2000 miles away from Alaska, caused the same increase in radiation (in lichen) as a real time atomic bomb test in Alaska in late 1960's.

        I must not have explained it well.

        After 3 nuclear bombs tested, lichens had 300 to 1000 Bq/kG in 1970.

        in 1997, lichens had around 2.5 Bq/kG
        After Fukushima June 2011, lichens had 70 to 263 Bq/kG.

        Fukushima at 2000 miles was almost as strong as a nuke bomb at ground zero island of detonation of the test bombs.

        Should also be noted that throughout the 1970's they continued testing and found that radiation went UP to 2479 Bq/kg. Indicating bio-accululation and radiation spread. Also keep in mind half of the radiation is short lived around 2 years, so even though the radiation 6 years later should be only 60% of source radiation (due to half life depletion), it actually went from a source high of 1000 Bq/kg, predicted to be around 600 Bq/kg in 6 years, but it was actually 2479 Bq/kg.


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Yes, and you got the post up, apparently before I was able to do it. Thanks.


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  • dosdos dosdos

    A flood of mail to congressmen and senators that gives them the feeling that they can't win their next election if they stay the present course is a very powerful tool that the public can perform. Let your elected fficials that you will actively campaign against them if they keep covering up the truth. Send them stories from around the globe that they may not have encountered. Knowledge is the best weapon. The will to publicly resist is the best control. Eventually, it sinks in that all that money they are being offered is moot if they can't stay in office.


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  • nedlifromvermont

    Keep slamming 'em with the truth ye' 'newsers, one and all!!!

    Great posts, entertaining, mutual support and excellent Troll hunting.

    Certain it is he's an incredible jerk. It's possible it will be impossible to educate him.

    Oh well. How did Rummy phrase it? Oh yeah. A nuclear "dead-ender".

    GE will hire him and promote him to the executive suite.

    peace, anyway …


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  • hbjon hbjon

    So many great posts on the topic. Can't but help be a little nervous by the fact that the Philippines had winds exceeding 300 MPH. Will the warm water be sitting off the Pacific coast this summer? Get those wind mills up and running.


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      • hbjon hbjon

        Nothing can stop the rate of radioactive gas diffusion from the Pacific Ocean into the atmosphere and when these gases collect and heat up this summer, expect some pretty fast wind speeds.

        I wouldn't be surprised if the west facing Sierra Nevada see winds in excess of 200 KPH. You may need to hunker down Obewan.


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        • Sam Sam

          lets hope not. with the drought we are having now the entire Sierra Nevada foothills and
          forests would go up in flames. Imagine the radiation in the trees being released.
          I would like to read more about this radioactive gas diffusion. any sources.
          A code red fire alert was issued for North bay counties of CA.


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          • hbjon hbjon

            Of course we hope not. I hoped that the typhoon Haiyan would stop and reverse course. We hope we can live in a world where starfish play joyfully in the Pacific tide pools. We hope we can wake from this horrific nightmare that began on 3/11. I have a friend that survived the Joplin tornado and I hope she is doing well.

            We all hope California has a plentiful rainy season. Hopefully the reservoirs will be full by summer. Prepare for the unexpected. It is not much of a stretch of the imagination to think a typhoon can hit California. Tho we pray they never will.

            Another phenomena to research might be neutron diffusion. Neutrons (like those in fuel rods) will diffuse into boron, water, gases, or anything they come into contact with. This breeds additional radioactivity in elements that leave the zone of stability. Heat can be produced by radiation. Bevis and Butthead see the storm brewing on the horizon.


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        That was 315 kmh top wind speed(kilometers per hour), not mph (miles per hour). Still the highest wind speed "unoffically recorded," ever. (Typhoon Haiyan) But a big difference between kmh and mph.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon_Haiyan

        "…. Thereafter, it continued to intensify; at 1200 UTC on November 7, the Japan Meteorological Agency (JMA) upgraded the storm's maximum ten-minute sustained winds to 230 km/h (145 mph), the highest in relation to the cyclone. The Hong Kong Observatory put the storm's maximum ten-minute sustained winds at 275 km/h (170 mph)[5] prior to landfall in the central Philippines, while the China Meteorological Administration estimated the maximum ten-minute sustained winds at the time to be around 75 m/s (270 km/h or 165 mph). At 1800 UTC, the JTWC estimated the system's one-minute sustained winds to 315 km/h (195 mph), unofficially making Haiyan the strongest tropical cyclone ever observed based on wind speed; several others have recorded lower central pressure readings. Several hours later, the eye of the cyclone made its first landfall in the Philippines at Guiuan, Eastern Samar. With little change in intensity at landfall, this would make Haiyan the strongest tropical cyclone at landfall on record based on wind speed, surpassing the old record of 305 km/h (190 mph) set by Atlantic Hurricane Camille in 1969. "


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  • weeman

    You have woke the sleeping giant.


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    • hbjon hbjon

      THE NEW ORGANON
      OR TRUE DIRECTIONS CONCERNING THE INTERPRETATION OF NATURE

      Francis Bacon

      1620

      [Note on the Text]

      AUTHOR'S PREFACE

      Those who have taken upon them to lay down the law of nature as a thing already searched out and understood, whether they have spoken in simple assurance or professional affectation, have therein done philosophy and the sciences great injury. For as they have been successful in inducing belief, so they have been effective in quenching and stopping inquiry; and have done more harm by spoiling and putting an end to other men's efforts than good by their own. Those on the other hand who have taken a contrary course, and asserted that absolutely nothing can be known..etc.


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  • roger0ne2

    I have lerked here since BP gulf oil Bombing and decided to speak out.

    ENENEWS-ers, what a group!

    How fortunate to be exposed to such information about the Fukushima' Bombing.

    These Criminals must be identified and put under the spot-light of Truth.

    Don't back down, keep the Truth flowing!


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "Everyone should stop"..indeed.
    It isn't all soothing around about love…
    A song…

    John Fullbright – Satan and st Paul – Jools Holland 12th April 2013

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=–5vUvL5W5E


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  • KiloCharley KiloCharley

    rogerOne2, Please elaborate on "bombing"?


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  • RememberThis RememberThis

    BTW ENE Staff…Quoting doesnt seem to work if farcebook and tweedle are blocked..
    2 cents


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  • wetpwcas1 wetpwcas1

    Many places I have seen on you tube the half life the nuke bunch uses is misleading, if it said 8 day half life you mulitiply by 10, so really a 8 day half life is really 80 before it is gone & harmless. Correct me if I am wrong, but this came from peer review studies going way back but later the nuke heads used this to through non knowing publid off of the truth of how long befor it became harmless.
    No question is dumb, its the ones not asked that are!


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    • That's correct, wetpwcas1. It takes ~10 half-lives for an isotope to essentially "decay away." Though because it's a statistical reduction and some of the original 8-day iodine lasted 80 days, some might last longer, maybe never really go away. So little of it that it's undetectable (because it's not decaying).

      For a 1-day half-life, it would be pretty much undetectable 10 days later. 8-day half-life in 80 days. 2-year half-life will be 'gone' in 20 years. 30-year half-life gone in 300 years.


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      • KiloCharley KiloCharley

        JoyB, Please help me with this. The fast decay of certain isotopes is how we can identify whether or not say, C137 came from Fukushima?
        Is this correct? Also, if I may ask, what about the rest of the stuff they are not even looking/testing for? Plutonium, uranium, etc. I'm not educated in nuclear 'stuffs". Bottom line, the pacific at least, is poisoned. Do you agree with that? I appreciate your posts. Take care.


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        • Hi, Charley. To answer, all cesium-137 from any source has the same decay profile as any other cesium-137. The way it's identified right now as coming from Fukushima is the concurrent presence of cesium-134. Which has now been through ~1.5 half-lives, so if they wanted to be entirely honest, they'd include their calculated correction in all reports per date (that much MORE 137 to the present concentration of 134). But they generally don't, of course. If they insist on still using the 1:1 ratio they were using in March/April of 2011 in 2013, it would make it look like there was just half as much 137 present from Fuku as was really there. Clever, n'est ce pas?

          They don't report on the rest of the stuff because the public might get upset and demand these rustbuckets everywhere be shut down immediately. Those actinides sound really nasty, and they ARE really nasty. Present in lesser amounts than the "Big Three" – iodine-131, cesium-137 and strontium-90 – but toxic as well as alpha emitters. We've just recently started hearing about strontium, because it's more dangerous than cesium and they didn't want to have to mention it. It was released and is still being released in its comparable percentage of core inventories (and damaged/burned spent fuel rod inventories) all along. It will bioaccumulate much more than cesium, and last as long in the environment.


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    • socref

      Six half lives is pretty much reduced to a meaningless level.


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    • In the case of cesium-137 it is estimated, on the low end, to remain HAZARDOUS to LIFE for more than 300 years or 10 times the decay rate.

      Some estimates say it will remain hazardous to life for nearly 600 years. I guess we'll have to wait and see on that one.

      :) I prefer to use the term 'DECAY RATE' instead of the equivalent term of 'half life' as I feel that the 'half' descriptor is misleading to most.


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  • markww markww

    Here is a alert that went out today I posted it in the news reporting box but don't see it on the system

    1. Radiation Plume in Charleston South Carolina kind of interesting 2 Charlestons have a on ging emergency alerts

    http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/nuclear-plant-leaks-radioactive-plume-in-south-carolina/72209

    ALSO Fukushima If Hillary and others in Washington and Canada and TEPCO and the Japanese government had been straight up and working together the Disaster at Fukushima would be allot better than now. At least great minds would have worked out situation planning,and doing things

    Markww


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  • Socrates

    No Oil, Inc. started in Santa Barbara after a big oil spill that left tar on their beaches. Some of the most conservative people suddenly became environmentalists! All of a sudden environmental regulation was in. Nixon signed the EPA legislation. Pete Wilson wanted the Coastal Commission.

    These people are rich NIMBYs. That means not in my backyard. They could care less who else suffers (in general). Nuclear stigma on beach property cuts both ways with NIMBYs. If it is too late to do anything, they would be better off not knowing that their beaches are full of Buckyballs and Sr-90. The real estate disclosure law would require disclosure to buyers!

    You must understand the psychology of the "rich and famous" – those who live on California beaches. They will put their heads in the sand if knowing something hurts their property values. But if their children will get sick…. then their cognitive dissonance is increased to protect their children.


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    • Socrates

      With SONGS, it wasn't too late. San Clemente property owners backed the shutdown. With Fukushima, it may be too late.

      I know the beach property market in California. If the Disclosure Law means what it says, a disclosure would be required in every sale. Homeowners Insurance excludes nuclear contamination. The issue is also coming up in Family Courts where one concerned parent wants to move away and take the children to protect the kids from the coastal radiation.


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      • Socrates

        Hypothetically, Brad Pitt sells home in Malibu. No written disclosure is made about buckballs, Cs-137, and/or Sr-90.

        Purchaser gets cold feet on the deal and files suit claiming damages for failure to disclose. What result?

        Brad Pitt cross – complaints against his realtor for indemnity. What result?

        These are real legal issues. The courts in California are dealing with this just as they did with AIDS. I closed escrow with a home in which the seller had died of AIDS in the home. That fact was disclosed in writing. I bought the home anyway.


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      • socref

        Thats bad parenting, using radiation as an excuse to upset the apple cart.


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        • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

          SOCREF, please explain to me why Germany, the birth place of some of the greatest scientific minds in history, is abandoning nuclear power? Using your past comments as a resource, they're ignorant fools, morons, anti-nuke wackos, uneducated ignoramus' ad nauseam. So answer the question: why are you right and Germany is wrong?????????

          Answer my question here or give me the link.


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  • Does anyone have a real deal authentic original floor plan of reactor three, I cant one that looks credible and not like a cartoon. post at nuke pro as a comment.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Only hope is to decommission all reactors, everywhere. Otherwise, the whole planet will soon be contaminated with nuclear radiation.


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  • jec jec

    Get dosimeters/monitors..and just DO IT. As mentioned above "
    What we can do is if we got monitors for instance, we can do our own testing in our own area
    Go to http://www.netc.com..or http://www.ki4u.com and get dosimeters(100-500 dollars is cheap)..or even badges(20 something dollars)..and I would get KI(potassium I) just in case some huge burst emergency happens. Don't wait for someone else to take care of your family. You are responsible and intelligent… let EPA and FDA do whatever they do..but test radiation for yourselves!


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  • This is one of the smartest statements I've read.

    Worth repeating:

    "I think that we have to look at mitigation. We can’t get rid of the fallout, we can’t get rid of what’s happening at Fukushima. No one can, that’s the problem with Fukushima. It’s going to be a perpetual disaster to us everywehere on the planet for thousands of years to come. What we can do is if we got monitors for instance, we can do our own testing in our own area."
    – Mimi German, RadCast.org

    The 'movement' to mitigate must/will come from local areas. It will not come from the top government agencies as one would hope or think. It can't. Their conflicts of interest are far too great.


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    • socref

      mitigation efforts have been ongoing since day 1. Moving further away is a form of mitigation, so is decontamination.


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      • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

        SOCREF, please explain to me why Germany, the birth place of some of the greatest scientific minds in history, is abandoning nuclear power? Using your past comments as a resource, they're ignorant fools, morons, anti-nuke wackos, uneducated ignoramus' ad nauseam. So answer the question: why are you right and Germany is wrong?

        Answer my question here or give me the link to your answer.


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        • bf9 bf9

          I'll answer that for him. It's very simple. They're the smartest f****** country on the planet right now, and anybody that disagrees is flat out wrong. Being of the philosophical mindset that there is never a definitive right or wrong due to subjectivity, this is the one exception. I can't see any rational reason to continue this endeavor of weapons enrichment…one more nuke plant disaster even remotely similar to this and we're done. The earth is done for hundreds of thousands of years or would not be recognizable if any life were to survive. It's very simple, if this DOES continue to release constantly for even a few more years….the damage is pushing irreversible for the worst.

          Anybody that can't take into account all of the repercussions we'll face to some degree (supercharged storms, bio-magnification through all food chain, death of o2 producing marine life, cancer, genetic disease, countless heath problems, starvation, more meltdowns, social unrest/murder…etc) and see that this is even beyond a hypothetical population control problem, I wouldn't even bother with.


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      • Moving away will NOT help. This in ONE planet.

        Decontamination is good if it were even possible to begin to truly decontaminate the multiple out of control sources.

        Right now, at Fukushima, all that is being done are vein attempts to decrease the severity and speed at which the spreading of radioactive contamination continues along with various strategies to keep the populous unaware or confused about the most important global nightmare ever conceived.

        The only other thing is… what is NOT being done.

        What is not being done is ongoing TESTING of everything with FAST full accurate data disclosure and transparency by multiple reliable agencies who have no conflict of interest.

        IMO – Ignorance is bliss is the Nuclear Industry's motto. Keep the people/cattle thinking they are on their way to a green pasture. All is good. Keep them calm. Ye haw! ;)

        MITIGATION 101:
        Some EXAMPLES:

        1. Being advised to wear masks.
        This should have been done in the days and weeks following the initial fallout(s). I am certain, and believe many agree, that much suffering will occur because of this kind of poor decision making.

        2. Teaching children not to eat the snow.

        3. Washing rain/snow soaked clothes.

        4. Shoes at the door.

        5. Spray off car before parking it in a garage.

        6. Wear mask and gloves when changing your car air filter.

        7. Know where your food comes from.

        8. When is the proper time to take iodine.

        etc… the list goes on. :(


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        • artika rama

          chasaha Moving away can sometimes even make it worse ,, it sounds illogical i know . There can be hot spots created in certain locations even at great disctances from the original location . These hot spots can even contain much higher radioactivity then locations closer to the accident.
          Imagine a radioactiuve jet stream travelling over the pacific untill it hits the pressure differences over the rocky mountains and starts precipitation ,rain , snow , as a result depositing huge amounts of radioactivity on the mountains . So you would have higher levels at the rockies than in the pacific .


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  • cooterboy

    "Moving further away is a form of mitigation" and so is falling down but I've heard that it's harder to crawl away from radiation than run from it.

    How far do we have to move, "to mitigate", because the goal posts keep getting moved farther and farther for some strange reason. Could things be heating up or are we just how realizing how dangerous this situation has really become. I don't think that there are a couple of hundred thousand people who are aware of this crisis, but millions, hundred's of millions, world wide.

    The strings holding this entire fiasco together is coming apart and the truth,k of which we know little, now appears stranger than fiction.

    How far do we go before we are safe? One mile, two miles or farther until it becomes a distant memory?

    From this reasoning, born out of necessity, if we can't see the NPP's then it's going to be OK. I feel better already.

    Peace,


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  • bf9 bf9

    I think it's obvious to anyone looking at this situation at this point that it's time to send in the 5 million+ man army with a worldwide effort. Even the 1% that have advanced bomb shelters won't last beyond two hundred years…

    Do people seriously have to start dropping dead to understand the implications? I've been following this loosely for a year now and much closer in the past half year- the situation is getting critical. It really is getting to the point where we should start immediately closing down all nuclear plants at the very least as well because of the extreme weather coming in the next few years thanks to the radiological-turned-thermal heat making superstorms. How would a nuclear plant fare against a more powerful and frequent tornado season in the US? Typhoon season in Asia? C'mon people/govt's… it's time to get serious about this. What the hell is wrong with us?


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  • Nick

    OT
    Thread tally. (TV: Fukushima is…..)http://enenews.com/tv-fukushima-is-the-most-important-issue-going-on-in-the-world-everyone-should-stop-what-theyre-doing-and-work-together-newspaper-editor-govt-afraid-to-look-into-fukushima-as-it-c = 7:45pm on 1/13

    3 posters

    1:Stock = 8 time date span = 1/13 7:47pm to 10:22 pm total span = 155minutes

    2:SykeWar = 16 time date span = 1/14 1:18am to 1:35am total span = 17 minutes

    3: socref = 20 time date span 1/14 !:13am to 1:31am total span = 18 min

    Of the 3 above, Stock's makes sense. The other two = 36/138 but have compressed time (17-18 min)

    Something doesn't add up.

    Back to topic…..

    At 11:38pm 1/13 JEC queried about Cesium levels at Chernobyl.

    I suspect that the cesium levels are partly due to ongoing criticality from the Elephant's foot and xenon gas continues to spew. Since cesium-137 is a daughter product of xenon it makes sense that levels would go up despite the 1/2 life calculations.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Acceptable assumption! :) Regard this one..


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  • ftlt

    All the world's nation state treasure is now held as imperial debt or given has been given into the hands of the private off-shore super elite. Nations are bankrupt. Impotent by default.

    There is no longer an ability – even if there was will to proceed – in a manner that reflects the self determination of a nation state's people in regards to addressing FUFU or any other issue. The national controls have been taken away. The nation state form of government is now broken almost everywhere. They are not coming to the rescue.

    To think something can be done assumes, there is a mechanism for the world's peoples to express and put forth their demands on. There is none and will not be one, short of building one for themselves through """ so called illegal """ mass action – Hello!!!!

    FUFU is the perfect image of the world and our institutions gone wrong.

    Our media has become the theater of hyperbole. It is an entertainment and a sedative drug for the masses.

    Only on the streets and in person (flesh and blood) will FUFU and other issues be addressed now.

    To the barricades!!!


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