TV: Fukushima plant is hemorrhaging radioactivity — “Scariest part of all is they don’t know where it’s coming from” — The big mystery is why contamination is coming out now in such a hurry (VIDEO)

Published: July 13th, 2013 at 10:01 am ET


Title: Radioactive Fish, Pacific Ocean, Fukushima Leaking MORE Radiation update 7/11/13
Source: RT
Date: July 12, 2013
h/t MsMilkytheclown1

Kevin Kamps, Radioactive Waste Watchdog at Beyond Nuclear: Well, the best I can come up with for what’s happening in recent days and weeks at Fukushima Daiichi is hemorrhaging of radioactivity.

And the scariest part of all is that they don’t know where it’s coming from.

But ultimately it’s coming from 3 melted down atomic reactor cores and severely damaged, if not entirely destroyed, radiological containment structures. That’s where it’s ultimately coming from.

But why it’s getting out now in such a hurry all of a sudden is the big mystery.

Watch the video here

Published: July 13th, 2013 at 10:01 am ET


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131 comments to TV: Fukushima plant is hemorrhaging radioactivity — “Scariest part of all is they don’t know where it’s coming from” — The big mystery is why contamination is coming out now in such a hurry (VIDEO)

  • captndano captndano

    Eventually, and I have a hunch that it won't be that a much longer, the MSM will no longer be able to turn a blind eye to this unfolding catastrophe. Once the world wakes up and realizes the entire northern hemisphere is slowly being contaminated it's not going to be pretty.

    • Toadmac

      The contamination is planet wide already and getting worse!! It spread over the entire ENTIRE planet very rapidly. North,South,East,West, No one is safe from this.

      • We Not They Finally

        The mystery maybe as simple as the Corium merging with the Pacific Ocean…Causing nuclear steam and perhaps a massive explosion…This would be a vast disaster that will know no end….The destruction of our once blest planet taking us all to hell…

    • Nature seems to be upping the stakes.

      She is going all in…

      Hold em or fold em.

      Nuke, your call…

  • dosdos dosdos

    Salt water and radiation tend to corrode metal. Pumping tons of water per hour places constant stress on plumbing. TEPCO has this tendency of withholding information until they can't hide it any longer. Need more be said?

    The leaks have been happening for over two years. And they are getting worse.

    • We Not They Finally

      Stop calling it "leaks"! Stop calling it "leaks"! Stop calling it "leaks"! Not just to you personally. EVERYONE needs to stop calling it "leaks"!

      • dosdos dosdos

        I was using their words. True, outflow, discharge, spread, expulsion, and spillage are all more accurate terms for a sieve. The only attractive part of the term "leak" is that it has a hard connotation that it's going where it doesn't belong.

        • We Not They Finally

          Your good intent not doubted. Just think that the new, accurate description, "hemorrhage" also "has the hard connotaton that it's going where it doesn't belong"!!

        • bwoodfield bwoodfield

          No, the term "leak" denoted that there is actual containment and this is just a little getting out. There is no containment at this point. We're seeing an unfettered flow.

    • irhologram

      Yes. "More need be said." Are materials in the coolant systems at NPPs using the least corrosive materials possible, as researched for the oil/gas industry, considering the increasing methane/H2S levels in Sea water, as has been noted in trenches around Japan? Depending on the process conditions, corrosion by CO2 and H2S, chloride-induced localised pitting or crevice corrosion, stress corrosion cracking and/or H2S-induced sulphide stress cracking may be encountered by metallic materials used for wires, casings, tubing and piping in oil and gas field service.
      The chemical composition of some Corrosion Resistant Alloys (CRAs) typically used in oil & gas production are listed in Table 1. The corresponding mechanical properties of these alloys are listed in Table 2. Alloy 316L, like the 13Cr steel, shows reasonable resistance to chloride-induced corrosion and COz-corrosion but it is not suitable for application in severe sour gas (H2S) conditions 2. The same applies to the Duplex (2205) and Superduplex (2507) stainless steels, which show limited resistance to sulphide stress cracking (SSC) in the presence of H2S2. Alloy 825 (UNS N08825) is widely used in oil & gas production systems for a variety of applications because of its excellent resistance to CO2- and HaS- corrosion and its high resistance to stress corrosion cracking.

  • Jebus Jebus

    "But why it’s getting out now in such a hurry all of a sudden is the big mystery."

    There are only three possibilities here.

    A. Continuing recriticalities.
    B. Releasing millions of tons of captured cooling water.
    C. All of the above.

    It's not that tough to figure out.

    The real scary part is the result…

    • We Not They Finally

      That's correct. The key word is "criticalities." Or maybe even "explosions." Like corium meets aquifer and massive poisonous steam explodes pushing the devil-dung out even further, towards the ocean and towards the air.

    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      Jebus, I agree but would add Earthquakes as it seems every time there is a seismic event the levels increase but I don't think that is the sole reason but makes sense shake and bake.

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    And meanwhile, not a single thing can be done about it.

  • If HEMORRHAGING cannot be stopped the patient will die.

    How fast the patient bleeds will determine how long there is left to live.

    The 'patient' in this case is our planet. 🙁

    If the sources of the contamination are not determined and fixed soon… then what?

    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      Our planet is in big trouble not only from meltdowns but Fracking, climate extremes, pole shift and as NASA said Comet Ison will be full of surprises. I'm not a doom and gloom individual but things are looking a tad shaky at the moment needless to say.

      • We Not They Finally

        If you are not a doom and gloom person you certainly know the final arguments…It wont be that bad just very sudden without answer…Greed on a planetary level can be fatal for our fragile ecosystem…

  • KingofthePaupers

    TheBigPicture: And meanwhile, not a single thing can be done about it.
    Pet fish dead? Kids drink same water?
    Jct: After Chernobyl, half US bird chicks didn't make it. Fukushima is worse. Notice all the fish in your ponds have probably been killed in the past 2 years. The fallout comes down in the rain and the plutonium stays on the bottom. Fish can't survive in the ponds, kids survive longer in swimming pools because they don't breathe the water like the fish. But the're getting their fair share. Given the incipient collapse of US nuclear dumps, maybe funding the fix up is worth trying. Argentine Solution to Alex Jones Operation Paul Revere InfoWars.Com Contest  
    If John The Engineer Turmel's to be the Paul Revere,
    I must bring warning of a mortal danger near and clear.
    Paying to decommission and bury nuclear with the Argentine Solution.
    Finally, who knows the technology we could develop if we threw few trillions instead of billions at the problem. If there are trillions to save us from the bank crisis, there must be trillions to save us from the nuclear crisis too.

  • Be careful what you eat.

    • Kassandra

      Could there be a connection to Fukushima or is EMS simply a function of the poor conditions within which Asian shrimp are grown?

      Keep in mind that radiation weakens the immune system.

      ‘Asia’s Shrimp are Dying. Why’? The Wall Street Journal July 12, 2013, B1 by N. Chaichalearmmongkol & J. Jargon

      ‘Asia is fighting a new disease that has reduced shrimp output in Thailand as much as 40%… The disease appeared in Thailand… late last year…The United Nations says the bacterial infection, called early mortality syndrome, or EMS, poses no significant threat to human health.’

      • Kassandra

        cont. 'It remains unclear how the deadly syndrome emerged.'

        The article explains that scientists at UofA identified a unique strain of a relatively common bacterium, but there is no statement in the article that this bacteria is actually responsible for the death of the shrimp.


          good post Kassandra. What's likely coming into play is the same influences that we've seen over the last year, with other aquatic-based animal species: radiation induced immunity suppression. This would explain why these creatures [geeze…I hate using that word to describe other lifeforms] are succumbing to "relatively common bacterium"…

      • We Not They Finally

        Kassandra, you probably already know that "the United Nations" is also WHO and UNSCEAR. And they never saw a "threat to human health" that they did not downplay or lie about. How much of the "relatively common bacterium" should we be just fine with eating?

        Sadly, there was even a post the other day from someone who lives on the Gulf, who said that the shrimp THERE were in such bad shape (oil, corexit, who knows what else), that restaurants were importing shrimp from Asia!!

        It's becoming a great big "pick your poison."

      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        The entire biosphere is suffering from 'EMS'.

        I wish aspirin would fix it. Sigh.

    • captndano captndano

      And what you drink.

  • ftlt

    If I understand it right, they have yet to bother picking up all the blasted out big pieces from the explosions yet … Is this true???

    Thought, I saw something on here about 6 months ago where they were talking about highly radioactive chunks of material just laying about flagged..

  • dka

    Well, is one possibility that corium is getting closer to the sea shore? Corium has been ignored, but it does not mean that it stopped moving.

    • many moons

      That was my first thought…perhaps the corium made it through the bedrock/landfill and is in the ocean now.

      • We Not They Finally

        many moons, I think that even to non-scientist laymen, that's seems obvious as the overriding explanation. But since the new radioactivity levels are over-the-top exponentially HIGH, it may even be that the corium is now flowing in tandem with underground aquifers in the area, and that the force of massively flowing water is being propelled by the massive WEIGHT of the coriums — making the flow of coriums even WORSE.

        Some have also commented that the black (highly radioactive) steam now coming from out of the earth shows that coriums have collided with underground water sources big-time.

        Oh, to dka, I doubt that TEPCO itself has "ignored" the coriums. But if they outright admitted massive coriums out of any containment, then the whole "cold shutdown" lie comes to the fore. What was "shut down"? Empty reactors because their massive deadly cargo (the melted-down coriums) was already let loose into the Earth?

    • We Not They Finally

      dka, THE MEDIA has "ignored" the corium. They may be frantic over there. That is, if people capable of mass murder can also be frantic about whether others live or die. But they will be increasingly frantic about SOMETHING. Eventually, they will be frantic about the Nikkei index crashing. You know, the really "important" stuff….

  • alpha-tracker

    I know this is Enenews, and we wait for the news…but we should NOT wait for news media or experts to tell us the danger that this all suggests: that in a matter of weeks, maybe months, we could be seeing a contamination load bleed into the Pacific that rivals all 2011 inputs from Fukushima. Perhaps by even an order of magnitude or greater. We're hearing that over 400 tons (~400 m3) of groundwater are leaking daily into the ocean. And we can, at least I can, imagine that radiation measurements could soon reach trillions of Bq/m3, or more, soon, in groundwater. The associated levels in ocean waters, if all leaked, would be akin to exploding an H-bomb in Japan's waters. This is an international emergency of the highest level.

    • We Not They Finally

      Point well-taken. It would just be WAY worse than "an" H-bomb. There was both atmospheric and underground testing for decades, one bomb apiece each time. This could be like a thousand H-bombs at once, and even then no end in sight. That much we actually don't know. But maybe it will finally shut people up over the word "leak."

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    We are all in serious trouble and then read some of this educated blarney….

    There is no comparison in the amount of radiation contamination potential/load?

    One just goes boom and.. well… the other one that is simply heating water and then after an accident frying fish/humans.. just goes on forever.

    One gigantic fish/human fry…bring me some more chips please.

    Bring me more of everything!

    More fried fish for me and my friends and why your at.. cook up some more of my friends too.

    • razzz razzz

      obewanspeaks: Interesting reading those links esp. the first one. After a reading a few sentences, one can easily label it propaganda.

      I'm not sure how much bong-water the author has been drinking but there is serious denial issues taking place in that writing.

      When iodine pills are passed out, it if for a one time exposure protection, continuous exposure has no answer except to leave the area.

      Noble gases are fat-soluble, so they can lodge in the body and do damage.

      The amounts of radioactive poisons in spent fuel waste is ignored.

      "…And neutrons go through everything: cement, concrete, steel, everything, and they travel miles.

      There's this guy called Cohen, who developed the neutron bomb. And it was the capitalistic bomb, because it actually didn't destroy the buildings, it just irradiated people with such a high flux of neutrons, their brains swelled up and they developed acute encephalopathic syndrome and died within several days. The buildings were left standing because it was a low-blast nuclear weapon, so it didn't blast the buildings to Kingdom Come, but they became radioactive. Because if anything's exposed to neutrons — iron and cobalt and various elements become radioactive. They're called activation products. And that all happens in a nuclear power plant to all the materials that are used to make the reactor…"


      • razzz razzz

        …further and actually conservative:

        “…The Chernobyl accident released 500 times the radiation of the Hiroshima nuclear bomb and several million times more than Three Mile island accident. The radioactive material released into the atmosphere included several tons of uranium dioxide fuel and fission products such as cesium 137, iodine 131, strontium 90 and tons of burning, radiation-contaminated graphite. [Ibid]

        “ The explosion and heat created a radioactive cloud that rose three miles in the air. Twenty percent of the plant's radioactive iodine 131 escaped, along with 10 to 20 percent of its radioactive cesium 137 and a mix of other radioisotopes including plutonium. Cesium 137 and strontium 90 fallout contaminated the soil and in some cases leached into the groundwater contaminating drinking water, streams and plants. The cesium decayed slower than anticipated. [Ibid]…"


        • Then there is the radioactive lead, because they dumped lead on top of this burning pile and much of that burned and evaporated too.

          And then there is the fact that the people doing this estimating are the ones that market nuclear energy…

          There is no way to determine how much truly went into the air.. Maybe it was 90 percent of the total fuel..

          Who is going to pull the elephants foot apart and measure how much of the original fuel is left inside of this mixture of boron, lead, and sand all mixed together?

          No one really knows…

          In the same way, Fukushima is also a mystery in terms of how much fuel went airborne.. The industry 'experts' claim only 10 percent of Chernobyl..

      • Fury Fury

        Such stupidly idiotic comments on these pges from people who have never studied radioactivity, rectors, and haven't been any where near there. Neutrons do not travel miles. They decay into protons and electrons, (Hydrogen) after 11 minutes. Non radioactive.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    oops..why your at "it".. cook up some more of my friends too

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    razzz yes and now to think Japan wants to start all their reactors?

    Talk about a severely "brain dead" in the dark world population….

    • razzz razzz

      Another quake today 4.4 in the Pacific about 20 miles from Daiichi. I'm sure they felt that being so close by.

      Drilling and pumping radioactive wells, quakes, weather, some of the melted fuel laying in water, some of the melted fuel left behind where containment can't hold water so leaving it exposed, pumping out underground radioactive trenches, no cover on Unit 3. It will continue to get worse.

  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    "the scariest part is they dont know where its coming from"

    Ive said it before, but its utter ridiculousness to think they dont know more or less where the corium is. How many dollars worth of equipment and manpower would you the reader need to determine this? A few million? What if you had the top physicists working 18 to 20 hour days, NASA and the rest at your disposal? Anyway, the scariest thing is that its happening and the sociological indication is that our "leaders" did nothing but LIE to us. That guy you voted for…LIAR. Those engineers and physicists, Universities and media all complicit in the big LIE.

    Straight from their mouths; "These recovery plans are moving forward based on stakeholder priorities"

    They have a good idea whats happening now and how it will be ten years from now…check this out.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      What do the best of the best say about nuclear remediation?

      "Available cleanup technologies are insufficient to remediate many of the groundwater and vadose zone contaminant issues facing Hanford and other DOE sites. And no single organization has sufficient financial or technical resources to solve these basic scientific and engineering deployment challenges. "

      we saw it coming 30 years ago and yet the same line of "experts" want MORE nuclear! Nature herself will weed out those homosapien morons, along with the rest of us

    • irhologram

      CS from your link: ASCEM was recently demonstrated on a plume containing radioactive and hazardous contaminants, including uranium, Strontium-90, and Iodine 129, at the Savannah River Site in Aiken, South Carolina.

      Did they really mean to say that openly? Interesting article, although I'm not wildly keen on a simulation of what may happen. I wouldn't be sure the input would contain all the variables. Oh, it does? Well, then, they DO know exactly what's under there and what's under Assumption Parish, as well.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        irholo, thing is, at some point you have enough variables to get a sufficiently accurate picture. With super computers beyond comprehension and teams of physicists working 18 hour days as they said, it would be so naive to think they didnt know to a high degree whats happening. Livermore labs has a supercomputer devoted to simulating nuclear bombs and whatever else supposedly so we no longer have to test. SO they can simulate a nuclear bomb, and I would bet corium flow. A visit to Livermore gives one a better imagination of the capabilities. No one should underestimate them

        • We Not They Finally

          CS, not saying you are wrong (I'm not a scientist), but as a practical matter, whether they have mapped out the location of coriums or not, doesn't mean that they can DO anything to stem the massive flow of WEIGHT moving underground to the sea. Humans can't get anywhere near it; but apparently, even ROBOTS cannot get anywhere near it without their circuits being fried.

          I think that it actually IS way beyond "they can control it if they want to" by now. I think it is becoming apparent that NO ONE can control this now. They are still totally liable OF COURSE. But what if no one, not even them, can spare the world from an ensuing spiral of death?

  • We Not They Finally

    Well, now that it is "hemorrhaging," can we stop calling it "a leak"? And what would even a layman think? Us, we are not scientists, but what we think is LIKELY is that the corium migrated towards the Pacific Ocean and now we have the "hemorrhaging"…. FOREVER. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. It's just gotten even more upsetting than it already was…

  • We Not They Finally

    There May well be a number of catastrophic events that will end with the loss of Planet earth….Triggered by ignorance and massive greed.It seems like only a matter of time.The Corium ending up in the pacific ocean forever.The black fungus that feeds on radiation appearing all over the world.With abortions being outlawed all over the USA..Radiation will cause the death of many fetuses.It doesn't look good for the world.Blame and shame don't matter anymore we must bear the fruits of wrong action and It results….

  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    They knew at least this much;

    "release was dictated primarily by chemical volatility driven by temperature and reduction potential …all coolant had evaporated by the time of venting…. damage to fuel bundles was likely extensive, minimizing any potential containment due to physical migration of these species through the fuel matrix and across the cladding wall. … The fraction of the total Pu inventory released to the environment from venting units 1 and 3 was estimated to be ~0.003%"

    Yeah, plenty more plutonium where that came from!

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    There is knowledge all around us and all we have to do is read it and be interested in the results obtained.

    Nice seeds…some grow.. while some die?

    ehow and how simple of an explanation does the world need?

    WE all have a massive radiation contamination problem that will only grow in size everyday and I believe the Pacific Ocean is suppose to have plants.. isn't it?

    Maybe the entire Pacific Ocean won't have plants in the near future?

    What will the fish eat?

    What will the humans eat.. if their are no fish?

    So many questions….

    Now Japan wants to start their idled Nuclear Reactors?


    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      I read that we are running out of oxygen. Carbon 14 from nuclear power plants is killing the vegetation (Petkau effect), Fukushima is killing the plankton in the ocean. People are cutting down the rain forests. The radiation from Fukushima and elsewhere is creating a larger hole in the ozone layer.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        The oxygen crisis
        Could the decline of oxygen in the atmosphere undermine our health and threaten human survival
        “The rise in carbon dioxide emissions is big news. It is prompting action to reverse global warming. But little or no attention is being paid to the long-term fall in oxygen concentrations and its knock-on effects.
        “Compared to prehistoric times, the level of oxygen in the earth's atmosphere has declined by over a third and in polluted cities the decline may be more than 50%. This change in the makeup of the air we breathe has potentially serious implications for our health. Indeed, it could ultimately threaten the survival of human life on earth, according to Roddy Newman, who is drafting a new book, The Oxygen Crisis.
        “I am not a scientist, but this seems a reasonable concern. It is a possibility that we should examine and assess. So, what's the evidence?
        “Around 10,000 years ago, the planet's forest cover was at least twice what it is today, which means that forests are now emitting only half the amount of oxygen.
        “Desertification and deforestation are rapidly accelerating this long-term loss of oxygen sources.
        “The story at sea is much the same. Nasa reports that in the north Pacific ocean oxygen-producing phytoplankton concentrations are 30% lower today, compared to the 1980s. This is a huge drop in just three decades.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

          “Moreover, the UN environment programme confirmed in 2004 that there were nearly 150 "dead zones" in the world's oceans where discharged sewage and industrial waste, farm fertiliser run-off and other pollutants have reduced oxygen levels to such an extent that most or all sea creatures can no longer live there. This oxygen starvation is reducing regional fish stocks and diminishing the food supplies of populations that are dependent on fishing. It also causes genetic mutations and hormonal changes that can affect the reproductive capacity of sea life, which could further diminish global fish supplies….”

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

          The date of this article was 13 August 2008, before Fukushima.

          • We Not They Finally

            Anne, that is all REALLY interesting. I remember that you posted once before that we NEED carbon dioxide to make plants grow, which in turn then gives off OXYGEN. Unfortunately, the public is so dumbed down, that CO2 and carbon-14 probably sounds the same to them! The environmental movement has been misled, undoubtedly by design. Life is A BALANCE. But at this rate, we will be lucky to survive at all.

            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

              TY, We Not They Finally. I have to admit that I'm starting to get discouraged. So much was written and known thirty years ago about the dangers of chronic low dose radiation. And the knowledge just seems to have been lost. The US used to be one of the most educated countries. But it isn't willing or even able to spend money on education any more. I read that the in-state tuition in California is now over $12,000 a year. Democracy is based on education and investigative journalism. The American dream has been squandered.

              I read about the train derailment last night. I was on a train that derailed 17 years ago. I was on a car which rattled for ten minutes and then the wheels of the car I was on went in one direction and the car in the opposite direction. I don't think they adequately maintain the cars, locomotives, or the rails. The CEO didn't seem to even care that people were burned to death. I'd never get on another train again.

              • We Not They Finally

                Yes, the neglect of infrastructure is appalling. And people don't connect the dots. If you don't care for and nurture life in one arena, you won't do it in another. So trains are left to be unsafe, children left uneducated, toxins are fine so long as they are poisoning someone else, not me. Just throw away anything that is not of instant benefit to me-me-me. The throw-away cultures of the world. Throw away the kids too. They're your kids, not my kids.

                But then again, we are currently distraught. Now it is just FINE (in Florida — so goes the nation?)to shoot dead an unarmed teenager coming home from the grocery store with iced tea? We don't know what to cry about first — how the culture condones the personal tragedies, or that the collective tragedies are all but ignored.

            • Time Is Short Time Is Short

              That is the whole point of the Gaia Theory:

              "The theory asserts that living organisms and their inorganic surroundings have evolved together as a single living system that greatly affects the chemistry and conditions of Earth’s surface. Some scientists believe that this “Gaian system” self-regulates global temperature, atmospheric content, ocean salinity, and other factors in an “automatic” manner. Earth’s living system appears to keep conditions on our planet just right for life to persist!"


              The difference between the right percentage of oxygen to support life and the lack of oxygen resulting in an Extinction Event is very, very thin.

              We have massively screwed this up and, unfortunately, .gov geoengineering is their final attempt to 'fix' it:


              It's not working.

  • CodeShutdown, totally agree with you on the point of yes they know whats going on. No way they have no idea where the corium is. Take it back to WW2. Ended in 1945. 68 years of nuclear research by US army and various commercial interests. Covert research on humans and on and on and on. They may not have empirical evidence where corium is but they must have some pretty good theories and who knows with ground radar and ground X rays a big blob of radiation might well show up on some equipment they would rather not talk about.

    Meanwhile you have Prime minister Abe talking up the economy and dumb ass Japanese voters giving the pro nuke puke a mandate. They spent 20 billion bucks on this Rokasho reprocessing plant. They need to reprocess spent fuel to avoid cost of maintaining spent fuel for 100 years or more. But look what technology do you know of other then nuclear will render large swathes of land uninhabitable for decades and generations. Now we have Russia and Japan dealing with this. But Russia is bigger then USA and Japan is a little island, maybe smaller then Texas, one state. And the most populous city in the world is Tokyo like a couple of hundred miles away from this mess. And nuclear technology is so complicated what does the layman know about it. 1 Seivert is that a lot? One sounds small. No smell taste sound or sight but its deadly.

    • Meanwhile the people of Japan are confused about what is more important the economy or nuclear issues. I predict the countries demise will be caused by political intrigue.

      A heartfelt God Bless to everyone especially the athiests. Peace.

      • And finally you know I am no brain surgeon no diploma's sticking out my ass but I have only touched on the issues. You want to talk about bio accumulation as fish travel thousands of miles and its not good enough to say well radiation off Japans coast won't effect us here across the pond.

        Most people shut this sh!t out as it is uncomfortable. Meaning you have 99% of the world with their head in the sand and their ass up in the air. High up in the air. Just cause your right doesn't mean you have won the battle. If everyone else is wrong and you can't convince well, hope you can walk out the back door with the silverware.
        Again God Bless and no offense to those Athiests. Honestly what sane person wouldn't at least try prayer as what have you got to lose? Peace

        • We Not They Finally

          Agree that spirituality is needed these days. A belief that there are Beings (not necessarily just one) of great love and compassion in this universe. That this travesty here is not all that there is. That Someone beyond us knows our hearts and feels our pain.

          And husband and I are not atheists at all. Just don't think that the difference is what "God" one believes in. It's whether or not one is a good caring human. It is the best way to connect to higher powers ANYWAY!

          Nelson Mandela, life-long atheist, prevented massive human carnage in South Africa by the force and stature of his character. Many people offer prayers all day, but never even relate to "Thou shalt not kill." (You get the point.)

          God is as God does through US. Peace.

        • Time Is Short Time Is Short

          Mother Teresa was an atheist. Irregardless, we will all be affected by the destruction of our biosphere.

          Remember this, 'God' is not a noun, 'God' is a question with no answer, and compassion is a verb.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

            You must have her mixed up with someone else. She was not an atheist. She is a beatified saint of the Roman Catholic Church.

          • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

            Wait..before my head hurts worse..
            Mother Teresa was a Catholic nun.

            "By blood, I am Albanian. By citizenship, an Indian. By faith, I am a Catholic nun. As to my calling, I belong to the world. As to my heart, I belong entirely to the Heart of Jesus."


            Answerable to the Holy See..and an instrument of the Vatican.

            Mother Teresa: Anything but a saint…
            March 1 2013


          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

            “Less than two years after her death, in view of Mother Teresa’s widespread reputation of holiness and the favours being reported, Pope John Paul II permitted the opening of her Cause of Canonization. On 20 December 2002 he approved the decrees of her heroic virtues and miracles.”

            The Road to Official Sainthood
            “The beatification of Mother Teresa was conducted Oct. 19, 2003 by Pope John Paul II. Many believe Blessed Mother Teresa will be named a saint of the Catholic Church someday, and her beatification is the latest step in that path to sainthood. “

            “In late 2003, she was beatified, the third step toward possible sainthood, giving her the title "Blessed Teresa of Calcutta". A second miracle credited to her intercession is required before she can be recognised as a saint by the Catholic Church.[1]”

            • Time Is Short Time Is Short

              Sorry, anne.

              'Letters Reveal Mother Teresa's Secret'

              "Shortly after beginning work in Calcutta's slums, the spirit left Mother Teresa.

              "Where is my faith?" she wrote. "Even deep down… there is nothing but emptiness and darkness… If there be God — please forgive me."

              Eight years later, she was still looking to reclaim her lost faith.

              "Such deep longing for God… Repulsed, empty, no faith, no love, no zeal," she said.

              As her fame increased, her faith refused to return. Her smile, she said, was a mask.

              "What do I labor for?" she asked in one letter. "If there be no God, there can be no soul. If there be no soul then, Jesus, You also are not true.""


              She labored out of compassion, despite a lack of faith, spending the rest of her life working with the poorest of the poor, lying about her Catholic faith in order to keep the aid coming in (she knew the donations would stop if she admitted she was an atheist).

              She is a saint, not because of her faith, but because of her lack of it.

              Who among us will follow in her shoes? Who will respond to the call soon to come?

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                Since when do you give credence to the CBS news?

                Where There Is Love, There Is God: A Path to Closer Union with God and Greater Love for Others [Hardcover]
                Mother Teresa Mother Teresa (Author)
                “God Is Love
                “In reply to the question ‘What or who is God?’ Mother Teresa on one occasion said, “God is love and He loves you and we are precious to Him. He called us by our name. We belong to Him. He has created us in His image for greater things. God is love, God is joy, God is light, God is truth.”
                This statement encapsulates her belief in God and her experience of Him: God exists and is the Source of all that exists; His very being is love; He has created us in his likeness with spiritual powers of intellect and free will, with the ability to know and to love; He is a Father who loves each of us uniquely, personally, and He ardently desires our happiness. No hardship or suffering, her own or that of her poor, could undermine Mother Teresa’s conviction that God IS love, that all He does or permits is ultimately for some greater good and, therefore, an expression of His immense and unconditional love. St. Augustine wrote at the beginning of his Confessions:

                “’You have made us for yourself, O Lord, and our hearts are restless until they rest in you.’”

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                No Greater Love [Paperback]
                Mother Teresa
                “No Greater Love is the essential wisdom of Mother Teresa — the most accessible, intimate, and inspiring book of her teachings. Thematically arranged to present her revolutionary vision of Christianity in its graceful simplicity, the book features her thoughts on love, generosity, forgiveness, prayer, service, and what it means to be a Christian. A passionate testament to deep hope and abiding faith in God, No Greater Love celebrates the life and work of one of the world’s most revered spiritual teachers.”

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                Read "Dark Night of the Soul" by St John of the Cross if you actually want to understand mysticism and the road to sainthood.

                • Time Is Short Time Is Short

                  The CBS story was just one of many. Teresa was a conflicted human being. Clearly this is a path you shouldn't go down.

                  One influence on John were the Christian QBL traditions, of which he would have been keenly aware of in Spain. There are many facets to the gemstone of mysticism.

                  Interesting that Teresa and John were both born into Jewish families, trapped by circumstance and the Inquisition. Many doors to follow if one is so inclined.

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                    "Mother Teresa was born in 1910 in war-wracked Albania to Catholic refugees."

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                      I've never heard that the Inquisition was around in 1910, or that Mother Teresa ever went to Spain.

                    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

                      I meant Teresa of Avila. Sorry, anne.

                      Although, in a discussion like this two people separated by centuries having the same first name is interesting.

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                    "He was born Juan de Yepes y Álvarez[3] into a Jewish converso family in Fontiveros, near Ávila, a town of around 2,000 people.[4][5] His father, Gonzalo, was an accountant to richer relatives who were silk merchants. However, when in 1529 he married John's mother, Catalina, who was an orphan of a lower class, Gonzalo was rejected by his family and forced to work with his wife as a weaver.[6] John's father died in 1545, while John was still only around seven years old.[7] Two years later, John's older brother Luis died, probably as a result of insufficient nourishment caused by the penury to which John's family had been reduced. After this, John's mother Catalina took John and his surviving brother Francisco, and moved first in 1548 to Arévalo, and then in 1551 to Medina del Campo, where she was able to find work weaving.[8][9]
                    "In Medina, John entered a school for around 160[10] poor children, usually orphans, receiving a basic education, mainly in Christian doctrine, as well as some food, clothing, and lodging."

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                      As far as I know St John of the Cross had nothing to do with Jewish Kabbalah. I did see that there is a book out about that. But having been an academic, skepticism about any academic book is healthy, because with the requirement to publish or perish, sometimes the theses are rather tenuous.

                    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                      though totally OT, anne, this thread was just too exciting to pass on. TIS is correct in these latest revelations, regarding Mother Teresa's purported loss of faith. However, I wouldn't go so far as to infer that she's become an atheist. Her awakening brought about a state more akin to agnosticism than anything else. And while many would be quick to jump on her so-called 'loss of faith' in the church, I see her personal struggle as more an awakening to her own god-consciousness. (The ancients regarded this as 'giving birth to ones self'.) Regardless of her personal doubts, I will forever honor her as being an enlightened being…

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      OT..I feel the opposite.

                      "Ethical claim: If you are a champion of the sick and poor, and you have lots and lots of money at your disposal, you will use more than a tiny fraction of that money to improve the lives of the sick and poor.

                      Or, equivalently:

                      Ethical claim: If you have lots and lots of money at your disposal, and you use no more than a tiny fraction of that money to improve the lives of the sick and poor, then you are not a champion of the sick and poor."


                      If she had doubts in considering her faith..I consider it well placed.

                    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                      agreed Heart. I'd add, any attempt at explaining the complexities of the human psyche and what influences come into play in the development of it, is far too complicated a subject for my limited awareness. However, given what I know of the evolution of organized religions, I wouldn't fault her (MT) for developing doubts in the underpinnings of her faith. On the contrary, I consider such reflection the sign of true aspirant…

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      @ AFTERSHOCK.
                      Aspiration has to lead to tangible action..
                      Or it is just that…aspiration.

                      I can't say I admire a lifetime of aspiration.

                    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                      considering Heart, that humans are a work in progress, aspiring to a more perfected state is an achievement in itself. I don't fault anyone for not be in a perfect state. I'd fault them for not trying and believing that humans can find such condition. It is, BTW, one of the reasons you are so respected (at least by me). You at least have not given-up on expecting more from the species…

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      I have friends..AFTERSHOCK..that went to India..and witnessed the her clinics.

                      To die..on a clean cot..with minimal nutrition…an upgrade from dying in the streets.
                      But it never got any better…

                      I'm not the only one that wants no part of this 'adoration'.

                      Pakistan's 'Mother Teresa' saving flood victims

                      "Dr Pfau said that, though she greatly appreciated and admired Mother Teresa, in reality the similarities between them were few.

                      She said her focus was on removing the root of the problem – not just dealing with its symptoms – the same ethos that has served her so well over the years in Pakistan when dealing with poor, displaced and marginalised people."

                      Nov.1 2010


                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      One should BECOME.
                      Continual aspiration..hardly good enough.

                    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                      well Heart, I'll not make the mistake of questioning your insights into the character of MT. What may be coming into play (with me and others) is the desire to believe that someone can make a difference. I seriously doubt she was as sainted as some would have others believe. But I do admire the efforts of anyone who attempts to reduce the ignorance and avoidable suffering in our world. Again…thanks for cutting-in on this thread. I simply love your take on reality…

                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                  She lived a life of faith and obedience. She just didn't achieve continual and lasting ecstasy.

                  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                    We are so OT..I'm out.. before we enter..the realm of martyrdom.. etc.

                  • She experienced a rather LONG dark night of soul, but entered another phase near the end of her life..

                    The dark night of soul can be a lifetime, a cycling experience, several years, or rather short. Modern medicine has a pill for that.

                    There are no rules about this, and no judgement, but Capitalism does not look kindly on someone being depressed and staying in bed a lot, not being able to work..

                    Take a pill and get to work!

  • Texas 696,241 km2 population 26,059,203

    Japan 377,944 km2 population 126,659,683

    Texas is just one of 48 states Japan is a whole country. No where to run in Japan.

  • Sol Man

    Hundreds, thousands of tons of radioactive fuel in a dynamic out of control place somewhere that nobody can get at it. This is the stuff of our worst nightmares, but I don't need to tell you informed people of this. I can think of no fix, but I am no one in particular.

    We could have had a different world if the small group of men shouting for funds for very special research were told, "No money for you- too dangerous!"

    Now look what we have got to deal with!

  • shadowfax

    Hello Mark I am an athiest, been one since grade 7.No offence but you just told me I am insane if I don't pray!!!!And I'm not supposed to be offended?
    Maybe you should keep your comments to the subject matter and not bring your religion into it.(One of many on this globe)
    athiests don't pray and we are very happy not doing so!!!Give me a break.

    • Sorry to offend. I'm not good at expressing myself well. What I said was meant to convey the helplessness I feel. Maybe prayer is a sign of weakness.

      • We Not They Finally

        Hey guys (shadowfax and Mark), don't fight! You're on the same side. Mark, you are not weak for praying. Shadowfax, you are not insane for NOT praying. The bottom line is probably that YES, we need all the help we can get from unseen benevolent powers if they are there. But our own love and compassion and good actions are what is needed as humans, whether a God inspires us or not.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Yes Anne you know what is going on and all of this information is readily available and few humans care and/or know what the truth really is.

    The Earth has been here a very long time and it will be here for billions of more years and it may simply continue on but without us humans and the many other species we are destroying in our evolution process.

    Wisdom is knowing when mankind/technology has crossed a line and we have crossed that line.

    Japan and the world at large must now make wise decisions.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    There are pros and cons to prayer/religion..

    There are pros and cons to no prayer/atheism..

    Education/awareness in very important matters/information takes time and being on the same page at the same time is the overall goal in any newly created learning curve.

    I welcome all people to my tiny world and hope they will join the communication/learning/education curve now growing exponentially worldwide.

    We now have a pretty confused world on our hands.

    • We Not They Finally

      Yeah, that guy in Florida — he said it was God's will that he shot the unarmed teenager dead, and he just got off scot free.

      "A pretty confused world?" Good GOD! (whether we mean God literally or figuratively at all.)

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Ah yes…God's will has been responsible for a great many twists and turns inside our created Mental Matrix.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Fate does provide a certain unpredictability…and is a definite player in the field.

    • Exploring the Inner and Outer Mysteries of Life

      Whether the human experiment works out or not, is a mystery.

      Life itself is a mystery.

      The pursuit of happiness; a mystery.

      What can we count on? The mystery.

      Bottom line, we know nothing about life, love or happiness, much less how to play with toys safely.

      We are like children that have been given the keys to the mansion which is filled with weapons that can destroy not just the mansion, but the whole world. What would children do when given toys that destroy a whole world? Why, they would try them out, of course!

      A boy with a gun will shoot it. A man with a nuclear bomb will trigger it. A man with a black hole creating experiment will make it happen…

      Bottom line, just because we are smart enough to mess with the inner workings of some toys given to us, but (Earth, genes) not made by us, does not mean it is wise, necessary or good for seven future generations.

      Worst case, toys will be used and one or more of them will destroy all life on planet Earth. The Earth will survive.

      But what has really happened for those who understand we are more than physical matter? Nothing. The mystery continues

      Nothing has changed, except that a toy has been dropped and was broken. The owner of the toy; is still there.. The children of the owner of the toy, are still there.

      What will be the next dream that the owner and children will dream up, if that…

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Probably best to stop paying people to play around with all these created Nuclear Toys…

    But then how long do you think they will still play after all the money is gone?

    My guess…..not very long.

  • Wow my above comments really created a discussion! See, my apology to Shadowfax came out of love. No need to fight. There are many faiths out there and atheism is just one of them. And let me be clear, Atheism is a faith. By defining God as not an entity you are still defining God. In a very courageous brave way, I might add.

    The story of Jesus is just a metaphor for whats going on today.
    We had this long haired dude running around turning water into wine, healing the sick and feeding the poor. Sounds perfect. So what happened? The political power brokers of the time felt that he was undermining their power so they tricked the people into voting for his crucifiction.

    And today we have this beautiful planet giving us clean air water food and everything else we need. Whether this planet was created or evolved is not the point. Life giving planet it is. But this is not good for todays modern power brokers. They have tricked the people to think they need a strong economy over a clean planet. Because if we all walked away from this economy en mass that would truly undermine todays political power brokers. And we would have clean air water and abundance of food. Today right now Prime minister Abe of Japan is calling for a strong economy and starting up the nuclear reactors is part of his plan. Sadly doubt the Japanese will vote him out but who knows. The choice is Japans.

    • And he will still be the Prime minister, the vote is for control of the Upper House. If Abe wins he will consolidate his power and the reactors will start up for sure. Its the same old same old struggle between good and evil, love and hate. Blah blah blah, this theme has played out throughout Human existence. But if we all act out of love we are casting our own ballot. Pardon me but I can speak my mind too, God Bless All. Three little words that only mean love. Whats wrong with that?

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Mark.. this reads like a script that mankind is currently following and just like a blue print….no?

  • Obewan, There were several blind people standing by an elephant. One felt the side of the beast and said Oh this is a dried skin of leather, another felt one of the legs of the beast and said Oh this is a tree trunk, another felt the trunk of the beast and said Oh this is a snake, another felt the tusks of the beast and said Oh this is a pointed spear. And the elephant is like God, no man sees the whole picture, we only see snippets of the truth. So every philosophy contains some truth, be it Moslem, Christian, First Nation, Atheism, or any other religion or philosophy you can think of.
    But every major religion has a flood story. Being familiar with only the Christian teachings, meaning I am using the Bible not because I am strictly Christian, but that is what I am most familiar with, I have this to say. According to Genesis, and viewing it as not religious dogma but rather an ancient manuscript of knowledge, the reason for the flood was that God was angry with Mankind for sinning. Exactly what was the nature of the sin is not known but personally I doubt it had anything to do with sex. After the flood God felt remorse and made a pact with Man that he would never destroy us again. Now as we seem to have little respect for this wonderful world I'm pretty sure we deserve another flood but since God has made a pact not to destroy us I believe he is just going to leave us alone to destroy ourselves. Cont.

  • I probably should read Revelation again because I did all my Bible reading 30 odd years ago. Still, in these modern times it is quite clear God can sit back guilt free and watch us destroy ourselves first before he creates a cleansing flood and starts it all over again. As an aside, when Genesis says God created Man in his own image I often wonder with so many types of people around which one is closest to Gods image. Man sins so if God created man in his own image? Then again we have fossil images of dinasours. Where does that enter the equation? Such a puzzle. Shadowfax is no more right or wrong then anyone else. Nobody has all the answers but if Jesus turned water into wine maybe we should set aside some time to drink wine?

    • razzz razzz

      I'll play the off-topic game. shadowfax is partially right with his disenchantment, why would a merciful deity allow one to live between such death, destruction, deceptions, lawlessness, etc., if the deity were here, it would put a stop to all the insanity in a instant. But the metaphysical merciful deity is not here right now and everyone is on there own. A test? A plan? Who dares to ask or could understand?

      Better hope for a showing or we will all end up killing ourselves. The saying about half-knowledge is true, it is more dangerous than full-knowledge. Ex. With half-knowledge you can make and drop a nuclear bomb. With full-knowledge you burn the plans and try to prevent it from ever happening.

  • This is all according to plan, so the NWO can kill us off and clean up their balance sheets.

    • There won't be anyone left to figure out a balance sheet.

      Their ego based plan, if there is one, will result in the destruction of all life on the planet..

      That is the nature of ego; total destruction of everyone and everything.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Well AGR is probably right and it will all remain a mystery..

    But then I think there probably exists some hidden knowledge that will suddenly appear when the time is right to shed some light on such deep topics.

    But in my opinion… dropping to one's knees 5 times a day to pray.. is not a religion.. its a cult.

    The answer is probably much simpler than we could ever imagine and the real surprise awaits us all once we pass onto the other side.

    In the meantime its been a great life and hopefully our many generational grand kids will enjoy a great one too…

    Let us hope we are all not creating our current reality from an ancient script written long ago…

    Maybe monkey see monkey do.. in our case is… monkey read monkey do.

  • bwoodfield bwoodfield

    So the many comment is that the corium has hit the ground water. I'm thinking it's well past the ground water and possibly hit hot magma inducing further reactions. The area that Fukushima was built on is right off the convergence zone of the Pacific and Philippine plates. The pacific plate is sub-ducting under the philippine plate which causes heating and huge amounts of magma flow to occur in the overlying plate. If the corium hits one of these magma flows it will be like throwing nitro on hot iron, plus with the ground water more than likely leaking all over it… steam + magma = volcanic eruption. Except this eruption will contain huge amounts of radioactive particles to spew across the globe. Radioactive ash will cover the area surrounding the Fukushima plant for miles.

    • Let us hope that if this happens, that the volcano buries the whole Fukushima complex so quickly and deeply that it cannot affect anyone.

      We hope that the eruption is fast, furious and violent, burying EVERYTHING within a mile under several hundred feet of lava almost instantly.

      Why do we wish and hope for this?

      The odds are that a volcano with anything less than this will destroy all of the temporary water tanks with high level waste, destroy the cooling systems, the electrical system powering Fukushima.

      A smallish volcanic eruption will allow the whole place to melt down and radiate the whole world before it gets covered up, with all of the liquid high level nuclear waste going into the ocean.

      Ah, the sheer mysterious joy and gratitude of looking at a ripe read to eat strawberry, while hanging on to a cliff side root with a 10,000 foot drop beneath us, and a ravenous tiger looking at us from above.

      Life is so precious… even if it only lasts a second longer.

  • AntonButler





  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    Anton, indeed a meltdown is predicted every ten to twenty years;

    "Based on the operating hours of all civil nuclear reactors and the number of nuclear meltdowns that have occurred, scientists at the Max Planck Institute for Chemistry in Mainz and the Cyprus Institute have calculated that such events may occur once every 10 to 20 years (based on the current number of reactors) – some 200 times more often than estimated in the past."

    Multiply this by money required to "respond", and land lost forever, and environmental contamination (up 1000x in ocean), we get an "educated guess" what the future looks like.

    • byron byron

      Has happened before. Species uplifted becomes arrogant and only wants to destroy itself. Humans did so less than 100 years from first use of nuclear energy. Did adding religion this time around help or make the problem worse? It is complex question. Must experiment more. Idea how we do better at the stars 4.3 light years away? After we harvest inside soul of last human alive we can move on to there. P.S. You did a good job on the Pyramids. 🙂 (being silly for a moment)

  • Anton, couple the thermal stress with the bombardment of neutrons. Exposure to radiation also makes steel and other building materials brittle. As far as Bwoodfields comments, where is the corium is the 64 thousand dollar question. I'm sure they know. Don't they shoot you full of low level radiation for diagnostic imaging? I'm sure a corium lights right up. Myself I'm not sure its burning a hole to the centre of the planet. Chernobyl didn't do that. Still the foundations of the ruined containment buildings are damaged. Radiated coolant is leaking out of the buildings into the groundwater which is flowing from the local mountains to the ocean. So even if the corium is melted flat like a pancake on the basement floor, the groundwater is being polluted. Awesome this actually gets back to the topic. The surrounding ocean getting radiated is a given whatever corium theory you subscribe to. "Scariest part of all is they don't know" should read "Scariest part of all is they won't tell". Finally I got to say that I am quite disappointed Shadowfax couldn't respond to my apology. Off topic discussions can be quite cool. Really makes me wonder what a room of Enenewsers would look like. I have to thank all those who responded positively to my spirituality. Also I am curious what brought Shadowfax to his conclusions. I can't do a hunger strike I have 3 and 4 yr old to look after. My trophy children. Japan will do what Japan will do and Obama says nothing…

    • AntonButler



  • Canadians generally care more about Hockey then Fukushima so I don't think I will motivate the masses. Prayer for me is really all I can do right now. Desperate, right? I remember when I was much younger I forgot about God for years until I found myself on a desolate island in a huge Canadian lake far from civilization with a swamped boat. Yeah I sure prayed that night. And thats human nature too. But you know I pour my soul out here on this electronic forum, so for someone to discourage me from my self expression because I have inadvertently offended quite frankly pisses me off. I like to sign off "God Bless". Is that such a crime? And just because you do not share my views is that a good reason for me not to share mine? At least tell me about your views. I want to know. I think the scientific community has done a good job of persuading society to collectively turn its back on God and the new religion is science and now the cutting edge religion is the economy. Now the economy seems to trump clean air and water. I would certainly worship clean air and water over the economy. For all I know this whole planet might be the result of a bar bet between martians I don't know but I sure get peace of mind sitting in my backyard by my mountain stream. Seems only fair to thank someone for all this. What say you Shadowfax?

    • eatliesndie eatliesndie

      "For all I know this whole planet might be the result of a bar bet between martians"….YES!!

      • byron byron

        EatLiesNdie: Descendants of your Fourth Planet still mourning the loss. Uplift mostly good results, except for Humans, mistake in gene coding. Sorry. 🙁 (sad humor)

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Mark…love these informative you tube videos.

    What do you think preceded all this war? What sparked all this war?

    An honest answer would be fine…

  • What proceeded all this war was probably smaller wars. What sparked all this war? Easy. War was/is a means for economic gain. The coastal Natives of BC were accomplished seafarers in their dug out canoes and used to travel down to present day California to raid the natives down there and plunder and steal their women. The crusades came about not out of religious fervor,that was an excuse. Basically Europe was all ready cut up and any chance of a knight to gain a kingdom was to raid the middle east. I think most people are happy to make a family and provide for it but a small fraction crave absolute power and become the leaders that lead us to war.

    • eatliesndie eatliesndie

      "a small fraction crave absolute power and become the leaders that lead us to war."….Poor, sad, insecure, brutalised bastards….

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Yes carving out power while controlling the minds of their followers..obey or die?

    I am better than you…my God is better than your God. My God/belief is right and yours is wrong.

    WE must be one dumb species to have had so much war and then to have done so much damage to the only garden of eden we will ever possess and/or have the luxury of calling a home.

    I am pretty sure it was religion that preceded most modern war presented in this movie. 1000 years should be considered modern wars on a planet 4 billion years old.

    War….. what is it good for!

    Absolutely nothing!

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      The wealthy direct those who might make a change in the power structure at home to spend their energy and lives on foreign targets.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Nuclear Energy/contamination prefers all targets….. foreign and domestic.

    Equal opportunity disease/destruction..why pick/choose one group.. when you can now include everybody.

    Love business models that make/promote money funnels at both ends…

  • There is nothing anyone or any government can do. We are past fail-safe so to speak. Now the elite will not have to bring on WWIII to reduce the population, they have Fukushima. It will take about 30-50 years to get everyone but the result is the same.

    We are our worst enemy, developing a technology before we fully understand its potential. We have played with fire and got burned.

    I am 60 and have basically lived most of my life. Ten or twenty years won't make that much difference. I will go without regrets. I just feel bad for my grand children's generation. Will they be called Generation Last?