Published: March 13th, 2013 at 3:18 pm ET
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WGNO (h/t Anonymous tip): It happened just before 7 o’clock Tuesday evening about two miles from the C & M Marina. Authorities say a tug boat first caught fire, then the fire spread to the barge.
WGNO: A tug boat is on fire after emergency reponders believe it struck a fuel line in Bayou Perot near Lafitte Harbor. [...] Jefferson Parish Councilman Chris Roberts tells WGNO News that the barge is on fire, and a representative from the U.S. Coast Guard says the fire is burning out of control.
Source: U.S. Coast Guard
Associated Press: There was still liquid petroleum gas in the 19-mile pipeline and authorities were waiting for it to burn out, Coast Guard Petty Officer Alex Washington said.
Associated Press, 2:45p ET: The Coast Guard says it will likely take until Thursday or later for a pipeline fire in Louisiana to burn itself out. Capt. Jonathan Burton said the barge was carrying 92,000 gallons of oil, but none was believed to be leaking. He said a sheen, which could be from diesel fuel, was spotted in Bayou Perot about 30 miles south of New Orleans. Four people aboard the tugboat were injured, one severely. Smoke rising from the site was visible Wednesday from downtown New Orleans. [...]
UPDATE HERE: New flyover footage of Louisiana pipeline blaze -- Officials monitoring air quality -- Unknown how long it will burn -- Can't be put out due to explosion risk (VIDEOS)
Published: March 13th, 2013 at 3:18 pm ET
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It will burn its self out. When these thing burn it burns up the bad stuff
markww
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I have the same questions I posted in the Brockovich thread…where I posted this accident last night. My first question is, why was the pipeline submerged from view, but not buried 4 or 5 feet? Unless they just string pipelines through the water… Do they?
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"they just string pipelines through the water…"
Question asked and answered..
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Hi FREEDOMROX
Sounds like more problems, just waiting to happen.
Do you know if there is a reason why, they would string pipelines through the water, instead of burying them or put them deeper? I am guessing it's because of cost.
Why even do that at all. There are other types of energy we can use.
So tired of money making idea's that are blowing up and damaging our environment.
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It is all about costs, without thinking about the shallow bury's that they do. Pipelins buried deeply cause costs to go up as more power is needed to overcome increased pressures.
To solve this in the GoM, they have come up with the Hess Tubluar Bell. Scroll halfway down the page to see this brilliant idea!!
http://freedomrox.wordpress.com/2012/11/30/louisiana-sinkholes-explosive-potential-massively-understated-part-ii/
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FreedomRox
what is the need for burying a pipeline at these depth. It will be concrete coated and with anchor points
"will construct and install its Gulfstar FPS in 4,100 ft (1,240 m) of water"
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Right you are Freedom. Many times they string them through the water. You will see signs in navigable waters that say "Do not anchor or dredge", which means exposed or near surface pipeline below. Their is a much safer way by building a small suspension type pipelines that go over the rivers and bayous similar to an expansion bridge, but nooooo, that would take a few dollars out of their billions and billions, so they run it through instead of over like they should and do in other places with tighter pipeline regulations. My god, look at all the bayous and gulf oil spills reported in southern louisiana on a daily basis at this link below. There has got be be better containment systems in place before their is nothing left but a toxic gulf. When will the toxic madness end????
http://www.oilspill.labucketbrigade.org/reports/
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By near surface , I was regarding in relation to the top of the stream floor, as being underground but close to the ground itself.
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There are requirements for the depth that pipeline are buried. Sometime a shifting bottom can un-bury. Marine pipeline are concrete coated so they don't float– so even if bottom erosion has un-buried it was laying on bottom—so barge was or tug had to be dragging bottom to strike. Note- nothing said about tug or barge sinking – why have they not moved?? could be sitting on bottom.
TM 2020 what you are describing is a river or canal crossing– the pipeline is buried in the bottom then "sandbagged" with sxs of concrete- look closer next time the concrete sxs usually go fron the water up the bank–The sign and the concrete is to keep idiots from dredging or anchoring
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All you ever wanted to know abiut buring pipe line and more
http://www.cedengineering.com/upload/GOM%20Pipeline%20Installation.pdf
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"…pipelines must be buried in waters less than 200 ft. Though the locations of pipelines are made available to the public, the potential for pipelines being damaged by large anchors exists. Thad, thanks for the above link.
So what I was leading to is this: if pipelines are required to be buried, and from Chad's link, it appears they do…except on the seabed…one of two things happened: (1. They didn't bury the pipe as they were REQUIRED to do. Or (2. There has been massive erosion, subsidence, or uplift.
I think whether violations or earth changes are involved, it's interesting to this discussion.
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Is there a different ruling in barge navigable bayou waters of 1 foot or more? I realize "large anchors" certainly wouldn't be used in one foot of water, as this was reported to be (was that accurate?), but certainly a TUGBOAT could exert enough drag to crack open a pipeline!
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irhologram
The OWOC pics shows the barge/tug out of the channel. In one the channel marker can be seen well off the starboard bow—
Problem — channels crossing the open marsh with a strong cross wind hard to hold in the channel- so skippers have to let tow go against side mud bank and wait for wind to ease.
Even shallow water barge/ tug need 6-8 ft water to operate. Tug on mud bank trying to get off and washed bottom out and prop hit pipeline–
Also the OWOC pics show the barge/tug in place still cross wind– if not sitting on bottom the barge/tug would weathervane in the wind and /or drift off.
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http://onwingsofcare.org/index.php/protection-a-preservation/gulf-of-mexico-oil-spill-2010/gulf-2013/370-20130313-bayouperot-oil-barge-gas-pipeline.html
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