TV: Huge explosion at nuclear plant near NYC — 200 foot high fire ball reported — “Huge black ball of smoke… alarms went off immediately… emergency vehicles coming from every direction” — Fire reignited after burning for half hour — Loudspeaker: “This is not a drill, please be aware, this is not a drill” (VIDEO)

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Fox NY, May 9, 2015 (emphasis added): Explosion at Indian Point Nuclear Power Plant in NY — New York’s Indian Point Nuclear Power Facility… was rocked by an explosion on Saturday.

WPIX, May 9, 2015: Witnesses saw a huge explosion and ensuing smoke and fire… 40 miles north of New York City.

Reuters, May 10, 2015: Fire at transformer lasted 25 minutesSeveral police units responded to the plant after receiving emergency calls from people who heard an explosion and saw smoke… Friday, Entergy returned… Unit 3 back to service after shutting it down the previous day to repair a steam leak… Large transformer explosions or fires are unusual

Kempter’s Fire Wire: @Indian Point… Caller reporting 200 foot fire ball

CBS NY, May 9, 2015: The blaze, which sent black smoke billowing into the sky… A hiker who took a photo of the smoke above Indian Point said he heard alarms and over a loudspeaker a message saying, “This is not a drill.”… “I want to make sure that things work the way they’re supposed to work in this kind of emergency,” the governor said.

CNN, May 9, 2015: “We saw just a huge black ball of smoke right across the river,” witness Gustavus Gricius told CNN. “We could smell the oily, electric burn smell.”… The blast sent the facility into an emergency response situation classified as an “unusual event,” according to [Entergy spokesman Jerry Nappi].

Reuters, May 9, 2015: Witnesses… report hearing an explosion followed by large plumes of gray and black smoke billowing from the plant. “It was a huge black ball of smoke and alarms went off immediately” [said] Gustavus Gricius, who was driving past when he heard the explosion.

NY Times, May 9, 2015: Gustavus Gricius… saw “a huge ball of black smoke” rising from the power plant… the sounds and smells of the scene soon made him nervous. “We could hear the paging system from the facility across the river, ‘This is not a drill, please be aware, this is not a drill,’… There was an electrical, oily burning smell. Once we smelled that that’s when we were like, ‘Let’s get out of here.'” Mr. Gricius said that he could hear “fire trucks and emergency vehicles coming from every direction.”

NBC NY, May 10, 2015: The fire started up again after being extinguished but has since been put out, officials said.

WABC, May 10, 2015: “There are emergency crews inside in case another fire should happen… The transformer did ignite a second time.”

Journal News, May 10, 2015: After being extinguished the fire was “apparently reignited” by the heat of the transformer, [Gov. Andrew Cuomo] said… it is “a stone’s throw from one of the most densely populated urban areas on the planet… We’ve had too many emergencies of late.”

Watch video of the explosion here

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  • Nick

    I ran into a CO2 freak yesterday; he called me a denialist.

    I pointed out that the sun had felt awful hot these past few days and that maybe extra UV rays were hitting the surface due to ionization of the atmosphere by Fukushima and recent volcanic discharges.

    He admitted that I had a point, but clearly this is a typical (semi-) pro-nukester who has swallowed the Climate Change Koolaid AND seems to think nuclear energy needs to remain in the mix.

    Ironically he also has extensive biological knowledge so my takes weren't too "out there" for his tastes.

    Still, I continue to be amazed at the POWER of the boogie boogie over one of the most abundant elements in the Universe…carbon.

    Volcanic and deep sea vent C02/methane/H2S discharges can't be taxed by Wall Street.

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Dry Cask Storage at Indian Point NPP:
    http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/01/12/nyregion/12nuke-600.jpg

    No way to protect nuclear waste over the long term.
    Dirty bombs near America's largest city.
    Must be shut down for good.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Karl Grossman, writing for Enformable:

      Strong Action Necessary at Indian Point

      http://enformable.com/2015/05/strong-action-necessary-at-indian-point/

      Entergy has applied to have the license for the operating reactors extended for another 60 years.

      The plant is located 26 miles from New York City.

      An excerpt from the article:

      "In 1976, Robert Pollard, a rarity among U.S. government nuclear officials—honest and safety-committed—said of the Indian Point nuclear power station that it was 'an accident waiting to happen.'

      Pollard had been project manager at Indian Point for the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) from which he resigned at that time charging the NRC 'suppresses the existence of unresolved safety questions and fails to resolve these problems.' He joined the Union of Concerned Scientists.

      An explosion and fire at a transformer at Indian Point 3 on Saturday is but one of the many accidents that have occurred at the Indian Point facility through the years—none catastrophic as have been the disasters at the Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plants."

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Listing of US GE Mark 1 Fukushima-Type Nuclear Power Plants:

    Browns Ferry 1, Athens, Alabama, operating license since 1973, reactor type GE 4.

    • Browns Ferry 2, Athens, Alabama, 1974, GE 4.

    • Browns Ferry 3, Athens, Alabama, 1976, GE 4.

    • Brunswick 1, Southport, North Carolina, 1976, GE 4.

    • Brunswick 2, Southport, North Carolina, 1974, GE 4.

    • Cooper, Brownville, Nebraska, 1974, GE 4.

    • Dresden 2, Morris, Illinois, 1970, GE 3.

    • Dresden 3, Morris, Illinois, 1971, GE 3.

    • Duane Arnold, Palo, Iowa, 1974, GE 4.

    • Fermi 2, Monroe, Michigan, 1985, GE 4.

    • FitzPatrick, Scriba, New York, 1974, GE 4.

    • Hatch 1, Baxley, Georgia, 1974, GE 4.

    • Hatch 2, Baxley, Georgia, 1978, GE 4.

    • Hope Creek, Hancock's Bridge, New Jersey, 1986, GE 4.

    • Monticello, Monticello, Minnesota, 1970, GE 3.

    • Nine Mile Point 1, Scriba, New York, 1969, GE 2.

    • Oyster Creek, Forked River, New Jersey, 1969, GE 2.

    • Peach Bottom 2, Delta, Pennsylvania, 1973, GE 4.

    • Peach Bottom 3, Delta, Pennsylvania, 1974, GE 4.

    • Pilgrim, Plymouth, Massachusetts, 1972, GE 3.

    • Quad Cities 1, Cordova, Illinois, 1972, GE 3.

    • Quad Cities 2, Moline, Illinois, 1972, GE 3.

    • Vermont Yankee, Vernon, Vermont, 1972, GE 4.

    http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2011/03/13/6256121-general-electric-designed-reactors-in-fukushima-have-23-sisters-in-us

    GE Mark 1 is a design flaw, top to bottom…

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      All of these Nuclear Power Plants are way past their operational design life parameters of ony 30 years and are now ready to blow.. 🙁

    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

      Funny how many of those reactors were built and brought online during the Vietnam War.

      • DebbyS-AbqNM DebbyS-AbqNM

        and all east of the Mississippi River. They wanted to build one in Oklahoma, using water promised to another state and bragging about the plant with upside down blue prints… but the people rose up (led by a little old lady with a will of steel) and kept Black Fox from being built near the "oil capital of the world" (at that time, the mid 1970s, Tulsa).

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    NRC Event Report:

    "
    UNUSUAL EVENT DECLARED DUE TO MAIN TRANSFORMER FIRE

    "At 1750 EDT [05/09/15,] Indian Point Unit 3 experienced a fire on the 31 Main Transformer resulting in a unit trip. An Unusual Event was declared at 1801 EDT. The onsite fire brigade was mobilized. Offsite fire fighting assistance was requested. The fire was reported extinguished at 1815 EDT. The reactor was shutdown by an automatic trip. Plant response to the trip was as expected with no complications. The 31 and 33 Auxiliary Feed Pumps are operating and feeding the steam generators. Accountability is being performed."

    The plant is stable in mode 3, all control rods fully inserted, with normal offsite electrical power, and decay heat is being released to the main condenser. There was no impact on Unit 2 which continues to operate at 100% power.

    The licensee has notified the NRC Resident Inspector and state and local authorities.

    Notified DHS SWO, FEMA OPS Center, DHS NICC Watch Officer, and Nuclear SSA via email."

    See link below.

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Continued:

    "

    * * * UPDATE FROM LUKE HEDGES TO JOHN SHOEMAKER AT 2037 ON 5/9/15 * * *

    "Oil from 31 Main Transformer has spilled into the discharge canal and has made its way into the river. Plant personnel are sandbagging drains and release paths. IPEC [Indian Point Energy Center] has contacted its environmental contractor, who is expected onsite at 2100 EDT to assist with cleanup. The National Response Center was notified at 1945 EDT and issued notification number 1116011. A message was left with the Westchester County Department of Health at 1953 EDT. The NY State DEC [Department of Environment Conservation] was contacted at 1955 EDT and issued notification number 1501459."
    "

    http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/event-status/event/2015/20150511en.html#en51060

  • melting mermaid melting mermaid

    An oil spill and explosion at a nuclear plant a hop, skip and a jump away from one of the most populated places on earth. Do you think it will make the evening news?

    • We Not They Finally

      That's hardly all. They plan on building a HUGE giant natural gas pipeline within 105 feet of the Indian Point NPP. Maybe there will be no one left to report the evening news, so we won't have to worry about that so much [sarc]….

  • Nick

    “This is a problem to be taken with the utmost seriousness,” said Riverkeeper President Paul Gallay. “Indian Point has a long, disturbing history of operational and environmental problems. The plant’s aging infrastructure has caught up to it and we must see that it is closed or these problems will only worsen with potentially catastrophic results.”
    The latest accident comes only days after an unplanned shutdown at the plant due to a steam leak."

    http://www.riverkeeper.org/news-events/news/stop-polluters/power-plant-cases/indian-point/latest-indian-point-accident-is-proof-positive-that-the-plant-must-be-closed/#sthash.n324VSRh.dpuf

  • Nick

    "In the fall of 2012, the Public Service Commission (PSC) ordered Consolidated Edison to create a contingency plan for the closure of Indian Point. A draft plan was released by ConEd in February that proposed upgrades to the state’s power grid that would allow more power to be transmitted from upstate New York, easily replacing Indian Point’s output."

    http://www.riverkeeper.org/campaigns/stop-polluters/indian-point/a-future-without-indian-point-2/#sthash.oDrNkkCG.dpuf

    Wind. Geothermal. Conservation/efficiency. Solar. Plus a bit of coal, oil, and natural gas.

    You see nuclear in that list???

    Shut IP down forever.

    All downwinders need a major wake-up call. THIS was it.

    That oil? Watch the news focus on the spill and downplay the nuclear threat.

    Remember…you can clean up an oil spill (sort of) but YOU CANNOT clean-up a nuclear accident nor the waste generated from normal usage, ever.

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Indian Point is now on "Hot Standby", according to the NRC Event Report.
    Shut it down forever. 😉

  • Nick

    “(
    March 02, 2015 )We have brought in about 1,000 highly skilled contract workers, in addition to our 1,000 regular employees, to help perform hundreds of scheduled maintenance activities and inspections during the unit 3 outage,” said Larry Coyle, site vice president and top Entergy official at Indian Point, “In addition to conducting important work on unit 3, they are providing an economic boost to our region.”

    http://www.entergy.com/news_room/newsrelease.aspx?NR_ID=3077

    Unfortunately these hundreds of employees forgot to check the oil levels in one of the transformers, despite performing hundreds of scheduled maintenance activites and inspections.
    ….
    "
    This is the third such incident since 2007 to happen at the Indian Point facility, located near to New York City. After the 2010 explosion of the main transformer for Unit 2 of Indian Point NPP, when oil also spilled into the Hudson River, Entergy agreed to pay a $1.2 million fine."

    http://sputniknews.com/us/20150511/1021983574.html#ixzz3ZpwX0SPX

  • Nick

    "Electrical transformers transfer energy between circuits, switching energy from one voltage to another. But when flooded with too much electricity, the sudden surge can cause a transformer explosion. As transformers detect an energy spike, they're programmed to turn off, but it can take up to 60 milliseconds for the shutdown. However fast those milliseconds may seem, they still may be too slow to stop the electrical overload.

    A chamber full of several gallons of mineral oil keeps the circuits cool, but given too much electricity, the circuits fry and melt, failing in a shower of sparks and setting the mineral oil aflame. Mineral oil, in turn, combusts explosively and rockets transformer scything into the air."

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a5337/4345791/

    This is for "peewee" units. Large babies, like at IP are a different beast and I suspect environmental contamination exceeds acceptable limits for those tasking photos of the Hudson River today!

    • Old deteriorating relay switches…big chatter problem on all these old clunkers too. A small vibration or teeny EQ tremor can make them chatter, which puts relays in wrong on or off mode. A cascade of events can then take down a whole NPP due to chattering relay switches that are supposed to correctly control a zillion things.

      Who knew…

  • Nick

    "Indian Point unit 3 shut down to repair clean steam leak

    BUCHANAN – Indian Point Unit 3 nuclear power plant was removed from service Thursday morning following discovery of a leak of clean steam from a pipe on the non-nuclear side of the plant overnight. There was no release of radioactivity and no threat to the safety of workers or the public, Entergy said.

    It was determined the leak could be repaired only while the plant was shut down. It will be returned to service when the maintenance work has been completed>"

    http://www.midhudsonnews.com/News/2015/May/08/IP3_repair-08May15.html

    Any chance the steam leak and the blown transformer are connected????

    This power plant stresses the Hudson 24/7/365.

  • mt1000

    NRC event report – (near bottom of page)
    http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/event-status/event/2015/20150511en.html

    The top item about the Georgia plane shows their fire barriers (walls) have big decay issues. I bet that's everywhere with these old plants.

  • Nick

    "Indian Point's 1,031-megawatt Unit 3 had just been brought back online on Friday, after being shut down for a steam leak repair."

    http://www.sott.net/article/296254-Transformer-explosion-at-Indian-Point-nuclear-power-plant-outside-New-York-City

    "Nuclear Safety Project director Dave Lochbaum also downplayed the potential for danger caused by the accident, telling NBC New York that "transformer explosions are not uncommon – they happen roughly three or four times a year across the industry."

    So let me get this, the nuclear nuts assure us that transformers blow all over the country.

    What if, and this is pure conjecture on my part, the restart of the plant on Friday led to a spike in electricity through this aging transformer, causing it to explode.

    Makes one REALLY confident that repairs can ever be affectivly achieved on a nuclear power plant?

    The oil spill alone should get more anti-nukes to WAKE UP!

  • 😐

    What IF… speculation.

    Nobody else has said it here yet, so I'll go ahead and mention what jumps into my mind.

    IMO – 😯 It 'looks like' a mortar shell explosion like the ones we see in the middle east conflicts to me. Maybe it missed it's intended target and knocked out the transformer?

    At any other kind of power facility or processing plant if there is a fire or explosion the media would be there or doing TV chopper fly overs reporting on the incident, BUT NOT with a Nuclear Power Plant in the USA. It falls under the blanket ability to coverup anything in the name of national security.

    So… the only FACT we really can be sure of is that we don't really know anything except that we are TOLD there is NO CONCERN.

    Side note: Why would the containment reservoir be too small? Why would there even be an overflow built to the river at a Nuclear Plant? If the engineering and shortsightedness are so poor for this kind of event, then what about the rest of the Nuclear Plant? What else is prone to FAIL? 🙄

    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      Transformers blowing ..happens all the time.
      Electrical outages ..happens all the time.
      Cooling spent fuel ..needs to happen all the time.
      Somehow that doesn't correlate well.

      • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

        Carefull Heart.. don't pop a fuse in their brain's.. unless it's all on purpose..then they shrug it of as if all our complain's are nothing but the opinion of ant's before the colony is exterminated..

        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

          Cognitive dissonance fog.
          I don't know ..DID.
          I'm not seeing a whole lot or any increased synapse activity.
          The car left in the garage too long is not turning over.
          I see the point about gaskets.

          Photochemical smog.
          Does it matter in the radioactive bog?

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        Great epitaph for the future tombstone planet earth.

  • Nick

    (10/17/11)
    "Closing Indian Point in 2015 could also mean decreased electric grid reliability and increased power outages for New York City, according to some experts.

    Earlier this month, Indian Point operator Entergy hired former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani to promote the plant's safety in television and newspaper advertisements. Referring to the Giuliani ad campaign, an Entergy spokesman told The New York Times, "Our goal is to reassure people about the safety of Indian Point."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/17/indian-point-nuclear-nrdc-report_n_1015377.html

    I bet a few folks along the Hudson don't buy Rudy's safety promotions!

  • Nick

    "The head of the agency that administers New York State’s power supply said shutting down Indian Point would lead to a five-fold increase in the likelihood of power shortages in the New York metropolitan area during the summer."

    http://www.safesecurevital.com/nuclear-power-faqs/

    1,000 of 2,000 megawatts are OFF-Line.

    There will be tremendous pressure to bring #3 back on line asap.

    We need to evolve a collective mind-set that dissolves the need for nuclear energy. It is not fair that the industry can boast as being "green..carbon free, etc."

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      OOOOOOOH, I sooooo scared! Pleeeeeeaz don't shut down that nukie plant. What will I do in the scorching, hot, humid New York summer? Pleeeeeeaz!

  • Nick

    …"The folk singer also campaigned for the shutdown of the ageing Indian Point nuclear reactor.

    But it was the Hudson river – close to where Seeger lived in a log cabin he built himself in the 1940s – that was the main focus of his activism.

    The river was a raging sewer when Seeger set out to save it in the 1960s, a liquid dump for industries that grew along its banks, full of PCBs from the electrical industry, sewage discharges, pesticides, and other contaminants. The main traffic was cement and oil barges. The public largely stayed away.

    Local lore has it the chemical stew was so potent and so toxic it was seen as a cure for bore worms and other parasites feeding off wooden hulls. Sailors from the Caribbean would reportedly come up to cleanse their boats.

    Seeger, with his late wife, Toshi, built his own 19th-century wooden sloop, the Clearwater, and as he sailed the river, he began asking commercial fishermen to work with him to bring the river back.

    The boat would later turn into an environmental organisation, which remains active today."

    http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/jan/29/pete-seeger-hudson-river-new-york

  • Nick

    Maybe this spiked the tranny?

    http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/hmi_igr/1024/latest.html

    THAT is one massive sunspot group.

    Carrington Effect anyone?

  • Nick

    "THE PLAN(?) is a short film by Susan Rubin and Andrea Garbarini about the absurdity of the current evacuation plan for the aging Indian Point nuclear power plant."

    https://closeindianpoint.wordpress.com/2014/06/14/the-plan-no-evacuation-plan-for-indian-point/

    Needless to say, I have been leery of IP for a LONG, long, time.

    I suggest a full-bench press, no holds-barred by ALL of you caring citizens who have fought tooth and nail all these decades to SHUTTER IP before we all SHUDDER (or worse)

  • Checkmate

    High radiation over Denver on May 9 at midnight and my niece went to the emergency room at that time with an asthma attack…coincidence???
    In Wis. had 2 relatives visiting whom are both doctors, I mentioned Radiation and immediately they left the room…they wouldn't talk to me for over an hour and then it was about nothing.
    Today it was slightly raining, they went outside no protection and no masks. Unbelievable!!! And people go to Doctors about their health!!! And folks on here say pass the word and I'm trying to communicate with some educated people???…I feel sorry for their children and grandchildren with this type of mentality…

  • combomelt combomelt

    FORGET CUOMO!!!!!!!!!

    He made his statement, now silence and crickets about Indian Point.
    He's toooooo bizzy anyways…

    Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo ordered emergency measures on Sunday to combat the wage theft and health hazards faced by the thousands of people who work in New York State’s nail salon industry.

    Effective immediately, he said in a statement, a new, multiagency task force will conduct salon-by-salon investigations, institute new rules that salons must follow to protect manicurists from the potentially dangerous chemicals found in nail products, and begin a six-language education campaign to inform them of their rights.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/11/nyregion/cuomo-orders-emergency-measures-to-protect-workers-at-nail-salons.html?_r=0

    sicksicksicksicksicksicksicksicksicko

  • Checkmate

    Everything is a problem except Nuke. Very surprised he didn't mention RATS, but of course if they mutated or suddenly died it may point a finger at NPP.
    Also NYC really does not need all that electricity; just turn all the lights off at night in all those empty office skyscrapers all over the town!!! Gee I'm smart, wonder way nobody thought of it!…lol.

  • RichardPerry

    If we reduce the use of fuels like oil, will we also reduce plastics, how many trees will we cut down to replace this product.

    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

      That RP, is a HUGE problem, beyond the scope of many minds.

      We are now dependent on many oil products, many, support food production.

      From the beginning of oil dependence, gasoline/diesel have been the major products, so we burn them like a flare. There is no way to store/dispose of it all.

      So as long as we need anything from a barrel of crude, we are stuck with everything else.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      ultimately the energy is coming from the sun. So much wood is being cut down to make cattle ranches, or in the third world for heating and cooking. Looking at the total energy balance, there is no advantage to petroleum plastics over plant source plastics or building materials.

      We have to reduce the human consumption trend and try to end the toxic legacy. For example, "primitive" man somehow got his needs met for 150,000 years without polluting the world and leaving garbage all over the place. This proves, that in principle, its possible.

      There is one company that is making large wind turbine blades out of bamboo composite, and surfboards illustrate that wood compares favorably to glass reinforced plastics. New resins like ecopoxy and super sap bio epoxy use non petroleum based and less toxic source material.

      • AirSepTech AirSepTech

        Code, I would have to agree, in principal, and raise the ante 150,000 years. 😉

        We have undone in 200years, what we achieved over 150,000 years.

        We seem to have come full circle, looking in to the abyss and wondering 'what to do?' Is that not where we started from?

        Doesn't take a PhD to figure that out, possibly, it is the PhD that has got us here.

        We had better find the clutch pedal, reverse, and the rear view mirror. At least, the brakes. A U-turn?

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          Not a U-turn AirSep. Now we have mirrors and wheels and organic solar photovoltaics…some even wood sourced, we have machinery and mathematics and computers and engineering. We need bamboo sourced nano cellulose fed 3d printers for 80% of material wants, we need solar powered sintered sand automated 3-d printed homes. Almost all toxic products have a non toxic corollary. Everyone needs to garden, no way around it. Thats the good life. Man was meant to go surfing, not to be chained to the spinning wheel

          • AirSepTech AirSepTech

            I would not disagree. But it is very complicated, and much resistance.

            The dilemma, 2-4 billion driving the train, wild-eyed, like Gary Busey. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Busey#/media/File:GaryBuseyOct07.jpg

            2-4 billion have nothing or would trade all they have to get free from the others. For better or worse, I am in this group, as I believe many here are.

            I do have some Duke K. vintage boards. Maybe a small inflatable pool next to the garden has value. The ocean lost it's intimate contact beauty long ago for me, too many people, too much in it. Bummer, Malibu to Pt. Mugu was my fav place.

            No reason not to rage on the machine and the morons though, when they present a target, take em out.

            🙂

      • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

        quote Code "There is one company that is making large wind turbine blades out of bamboo composite, and surfboards illustrate that wood compares favorably to glass reinforced plastics. New resins like ecopoxy and super sap bio epoxy use non petroleum based and less toxic source material."

        That's cool , we have already proven we can put all that rational power we have compared to animal's , to good use if we want too..

        Just as easely and fast as our technology exploded in a "bad" direction because "our" motives where wrong and extremely shortsighted..namely to create a system that would keep accumulating wealth and power to the sparesly habitated top of the pyramid and keep the lower end aka the 99% ratracing as an engine of that..now the whole pyramid is suffocating but still has trouble perceiving outside it's own paradigm.. that is stripped of any real lifelogic or symbiotic priciple with the surrounding's it is embedded in..it is just a giant artificial transformer of eart's life-blob in to a graveyard so toxic worm's can not survive..

        The problem we have is the strength of the addiction of those on the top and the programmability of those beneath..

        • AirSepTech AirSepTech

          Civilizations plight has always been about wealth, the more powerful, the witch Dr., tribes and clans fighting and killing for goods, sometimes just for fun. 🙁

          We set a direction with the Federal Reserve, money, investment, the scam, and it's insatiable exponential growth need to survive. We now cannot do/achieve anything without first satisfying this principle.

          We have monetized our future and life itself, a strange act and belief, since money does not provide either.

          We will have to change, or we will self-destruct.

          • SadieDog

            +1 , Air, you said it! Check out my last post.

          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            That would be correct! 🙂

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            AirSepTech, great observation, and I agree. We may have monetized ourselves out of existence in the Fiat Universe.

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              But it's being announced a new global currency will soon exist. I'm assuming that means TPTB are confident they can implement the TPP poste-haste.

          • Yes Air… Change or perish. You know once you get the process moving the need to stop paying the scum who are causing your pain is all down hill from there. Revolt against the money trend. Me? I Quit,Or more accurately i fired the employer. I will not be living neck deep in usury any longer. I have had my fill of being held down. Not one step farther. Not one dollar more for them. If i have to crash my life into a wall to have enough freedom to beat government ass I WILL DO IT!. Now the game is afoot without socks or boots. We warned you. Once enough of my fellow operatives realize the height of the danger THEN the shit is going into the fan. The MEN of this world cannot be bought. The HERO of our time is the little man willing to stop feeding the beast EVEN with the specter of being homeless and broke to keep the little folk on the treadmill. It's like the GATSO speed camera… A single tire a splash of gas inside and a match…. Poof A very bad day for photos. Well at every soft spot their is a GATSO fix. At EVERY point the thief,liar,cheat politician can blow hard and long about threats but Tyler said it the best in fight club to the commish…"Don't Fuck With Us"
            Life in our lands is being smashed to bits by evil and doing something is not optional. So no more tax for you Liz. Your days are numbered. We don't need your game. We are going to start a new game. Your kind is not welcome.

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        Don't forget hemp. It can replace fossil fuels entirely. Book:"The Emperor Wears no Clothes" by Jack Herer. Save the earth now!

        Solar and hemp!

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Problems started with the industrial revolution. And now it's spinning out of control. The world could be wonderful again. We'd need to live like the Amish. Modern made stuff would be a plow, a piano, guitar, stuff like that. Not factories and nuclear plants.

  • Nick

    "A hiker who took a photo of the smoke above Indian Point said he heard alarms and over a loudspeaker a message saying, “This is not a drill.”

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/05/09/indian-point-explosion/

    But they WILL still have another drill on Wednesday!

    "Buchanan, NY – Orange County Emergency Management (OCEM) would like to advise residents that a prearranged full-volume test of the Indian Point Energy Center siren system will be conducted Wednesday between 10 a.m. and 11 a.m. throughout the 10-mile Emergency Planning Zone (EPZ) around Indian Point, including the sirens in Orange County.

    OCEM along with partners in Westchester, Rockland, Putnam, NYS and Entergy are required by federal mandates to conduct Full Volume Siren Tests on a quarterly basis.

    During this full-system activation test, sirens will sound simultaneously for four minutes. The sirens will sound at full-volume for the entire duration of the test. No action on the part of the public is necessary or required for this drill."

    http://hudsonvalleynewsnetwork.com/2015/05/11/indian-point-plans-full-volume-siren-test/

    Something tells me folks aren't going to want to hear the siren so soon after Sunday's fire.

    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

      Maybe they should distribute 'Depends'.

      Folks should sell property now, before the Price-Anderson act shows them what their crap is really worth.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Have to wonder what that huge flash was in the video. Transformers blowing up will produce a huge, brilliant blue flash in the dark of night.

      • whilst the transformer was melting… The physical circuit breakers would have tripped open.. A hell of a blue arc is the result of one of those beakers popping. Effing damn noisy too. At night it's spectacular to see a trip.. i saw one in Calgary from about 17 KM away in the dark and was impressed with the brightness it emitted.

  • Nick

    Saturday's fire…

    • SadieDog

      "Plant operator FirstEnergy Corp. shut down its Davis-Besse nuclear power plant near Toledo on Saturday night after the leak was discovered around 7 p.m. Saturday in a part of the plant that doesn't involve the nuclear reactor."

      • AirSepTech AirSepTech

        Well yes of course that makes sense because a 'nuclar reactar' does not make any steam nor exchange any heat as such.

        Maybe they have geothermal and shutdown on precaution. Possible over abundance of leaky steam from an unknown source. 🙂

        Maybe their just full of crap. 😉

  • wetpwcas1 wetpwcas1

    The senator from S.C. will run for POTUS, this manis owned by the nuke industry, IP blows a huge fire ball 200 feet high & the NRC keeps making the same old claims. read what this has to say about the MOX fuel cost over runs at http://www.Pogo.org/blog/2015/05/mox-is-a-golden-hammer-of-waste.html.
    I would like to know if New Yorkers know about how much money is being wasted just at this one site that has no customers? The cost to close down IP & move to a safe form of energy has been spent in SC thanks to the two senators from SC & one wants to be POTUS, like so many have said on this site, it's just a matter of time, wake NYC & push for the shut down of all nuke plants.

  • mt1000

    ooo … ooooooo …..
    whole lotto docs –
    http://pbadupws.nrc.gov/docs/ML1422/

    tell Stock…

    • Ya eh, MT, that rabbit hole runs deep, although there is no search function and no apparent organization.

      Lots of NRC docs…to peruse, someday when there is plenty of time.

  • Joust the Conca —

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2015/05/11/when-should-a-nuclear-power-plant-be-refueled/?utm_source=alertscalledoutcomment&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20150511

    Conca say this

    CGS is non-profit so has to sell at cost which is less than 5cents/kWh. The other areas you mention are all profit-driven markets which are warped and has so many non-cost inputs it’s hard to calculate what is what. You’re wrong about solar being 9 cents without subsidies. The best is 14 cents/kWh and that is with no O&M and no load-following. It will get better with technological innovation and more efficient semiconductor materials like Ge, but it is unlikely to get to the life-cycle costs of the others – coal, gas, wind, nuclear and hydro are all between 3.5 and 4.5 cents per kWh life-cycle. Anything more is not cost but “other” – financing, subsidies, profit, market distortions, whatever. That’s why I am all for non-for-profit energy markets like much of WA State, with public utility districts.

    stock say this

    Except that I am an expert in solar as well as an AEE CEM Certified Energy Manager. I design and build solar systems and my predictions and trueups are with in 1% of each other.

    And I do know….nuclear is dying in 14 cent per kWH rate environments….even though the plants have been paid for, for decades….it is simply the operating costs, no amortization, and they still die at 14 cents.

    nuclear had it's chance and failed us

  • Checkmate

    Hey Stock isn't Conca…short for Concha Shell…which he should crawl back in…lol.

  • Nick

    "Among the underfunded plants are FirstEnergy Corp.’s Three Mile Island in Pennsylvania, site of the 1979 partial meltdown, and Entergy Corp.’s Indian Point, about 35 miles north of New York City."

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-03/radioactive-and-short-on-cash

    …."The U.S. nuclear industry is feeling its age. Once touted as a source of electricity that would be “too cheap to meter,” plants need expensive upgrades to protect them from terrorism and natural disasters. At the same time, they face growing competition from renewables and natural gas. While five new reactors are under construction, current economics give little incentive to build more. Looming is an unprecedented wave of closures." (from same source)

    Every single nuclear plant will suck huge amounts of cash AFTER the turbines no longer hiss steam through their blades to generate electricity.

    Talk about a "green" technology! Crikey.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Junk! Rattle Traps! Garbage that should be thrown out!

    Smart people know Nuclear is a dumb way to boil water! 🙂
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwIvGJJ_dtU

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Nuclear One rated worst nuke plant in U.S.
    5/12/2015

    http://www.thv11.com/story/news/local/russellville/2015/05/12/nuclear-one-rated-worst-nuke-plant-in-us/27209065/

    Is Arkansas a ‘canary-in-coal mine’ state for seismic adjustments on New Madrid?
    June 24 2013

    http://www.examiner.com/article/is-arkansas-a-canary-coal-mine-state-for-seismic-adjustments-on-new-madrid

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Humans are stuck in crazy/stupid like flies in vasoline.

    Stone Temple Pilots – Vasoline Lyrics

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCFOlQxW220

    Yep.

  • Nick

    Today's the day:

    http://hudsonvalleynewsnetwork.com/2015/05/11/indian-point-plans-full-volume-siren-test/

    10-11am …….get ready for your hairs to stiffen on the back of your. neck.

    Been kinda quiet vis a vis the oilspill on the Hudson…….

    • Army leaders have thus far taken up a losing battle against Congress to temporarily halt funding for its Abrams tanks. However, that changed in its latest budget proposal as the service has reversed course and asked for 50 percent more funding for the M1 Abrams tank over last year.

      When you can't stop pork barrel spending, why try to fight it? SImply double up. The Pork barrelers will be happy to oblige.

    • Few people know that trains used to have 3 people up front in the cab, now down to just 1. NO safety factor there..

      Even the airlines have at least 2 people in the cab.. Railroads? not so much..

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    What we need is ..is another government probe.
    But for what?
    For them get their lies, straight?

    Lawmaker urges federal probe at N.Y. nuclear plant
    May 13 2015

    http://www.guampdn.com/usatoday/article/27263745

  • Sol Man

    Is there any follow-up on today's news?

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