TV: Man has teenagers over to play with nuclear reactor in his basement — Must wear radiation badges — As young as 7th grade? — Wants to ‘restock’ nuke industries (VIDEO)

Published: March 13th, 2013 at 9:40 pm ET
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FOX Seattle, March 12, 2013: We don’t always know what our neighbors have inside their homes, but you might be more than a bit surprised if you discovered one of your neighbors was operating a nuclear reactor in his basement [... Carl] Greninger boots up the fusion reactor every Friday night so that a group of high school physics students can use it as a hands-on learning experience.

“You may be wondering, all of the students who work with the reactor actually wear a radiation protection badge and have never recorded a measurable dose.”

KPLU (Emphasis Added): Why are kids in Federal Way playing with a nuclear reactor? [...] Greninger is a Microsoft IT manager, and doesn’t have any nuclear engineering experience per se. But he settled on building a nuclear fusion reactor in his house, and inviting teenagers to help. [...] Greninger bankrolled the thing himself (he declines to cite a figure, but says it was well into six-figure territory) [...] As for the law, Greninger is apparently in the clear. Because the fusor doesn’t use radioactive fuel, it falls under state regulations rather than the federal Nuclear Regulatory Commission. The Washington Office of Radiation Protection did pay Carl a visit once after a neighbor raised some concerns. Health physicist Mike Brennan inspected the facilities. He saw the safeguards, the shielding and the radiation dose meters everyone wears. [...] “I think that it is not only safe, but he is teaching safety, so a culture of safety is radiating out from his secret lab.” [...] If Greninger has his way, some of these kids will restock the talent in America’s nuclear industries – making advances in energy, nuclear medicine and materials science. The significance of this kind of work isn’t lost on kids like Krystal, a 15-year-old from Auburn who’s been with the group since 7th grade [...]

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56 comments to TV: Man has teenagers over to play with nuclear reactor in his basement — Must wear radiation badges — As young as 7th grade? — Wants to ‘restock’ nuke industries (VIDEO)

  • Proton

    Just set the dose-badge right over there on the desk while you reach in… No worries, see? No dose!

    bring em up right …


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    • Proton

      Sorry, but trusting that guy with your kids on a Friday night?
      craziness


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    • PavewayIII PavewayIII

      So you 'answer' to a gullible, uninformed populace regarding the risks of nuclear energy is to keep them ignorant and simply 'protect' their opinion from influence?

      That's pretty scary, Proton. The ability to think critically and act rationally is based on education and access to information. Censorship and ignorance are control tools. These kids are zapping a stream of non-radioactive deuterium gas with enough electricity to produce an occasional fusion and a lose neutron. Your smoke detector 'reactor' is more dangerous.

      Hanfords will continue to happen because the American public won't bother questioning abandoned radioactive glop tanks of mass destruction.

      Three-Mile Islands and Fukushimas will continue to happen because an ignorant population doesn't understand the risk of release and, hey – nuke plants are job-creators!

      Future presidents won't think twice about a public outcry when they decide to promote an Office of Air and Radiation (AOR) bureaucrat to head the EPA. If a stupid public doesn't realize what the squiggly lines in RADNET mean or don't mean, then they'll be just as easily duped as the people in Fukushima.

      You don't turn a teenager into a psychopath by encouraging their interest in physics.

      You turn them into psychopaths by first making them mindless debt slaves and then releasing them in a world full of psychopathic employers in countries governed by ignorant, psychopathic leaders.


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      • VanneV anne

        There are safeguards in an accredited academic setting. An individual without any credentials or liability is a loose canon. If there is lead shielding and radiation monitors, there is radiation and radioactive fuel. No one has the right to irradiate another person. This is not science, but murder.


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        • Proton

          Thanks Anne for having my back while I was away… Will the kids object when he's irradiating them?
          I would guess they have been molded into believing that radiation from nuclear reactors is harmless and probably beneficial, and the dose-badges they wear are merely a formality…


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      • Proton

        The smoke detector "reactors" you are referring to PavewayIII are Ionization-type smoke-detectors… They contain a very small button containing 0.9 micro-curies of Americium 241 according to my source book "The Elements" written by Theodore Gray…


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        • SnorkY2K

          More accurately mostly Am241. I did work at a smoke detector factory for a while. They used to be enriched for about 90% AM241 with some 242 and 243 and other radionuclides in the remaining portion. A large portion of the Am was made with a process that exposed Pu to beta. We had two opportunities to adjust the detectors for variations. Some of our deliveries would be way out of range making the detectors insensitive and they would have to have their sources put in barrels and dumped into the ocean. The sources themselves were prepared in a way that emit far more ions than a polished surface that I have often wondered if they were more prone to losing daughter products.


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  • lam335 lam335

    There goes the neighborhood …

    I'm sure having a nuclear reactor in a neighbor's basement would have a really great impact on property values if people knew about it. Who wouldn't want to live next to an atomic amateur with no "nuclear engineering experience per se"?

    People who run these things should have to register somewhere and that information should be public record so that people can make informed decisions about whether they want to invest in a home and raise their family next door to a guy who plays with radioactive material in his spare time.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    They should explore safe energy producing technologies, and dump nuclear, which is uncontrollable and unmanageable.


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  • Jebus Jebus

    Ya Mom, look at how safe we are with the thermonuclear fusion reactor as we look at how close we can get to the drill Mr.Greninger is using.

    Look Ma, no safety glasses!

    Another pukular pr stunt. Another group of kids brainwashed into the cult of destruction…

    Students study nuclear fusion in Federal Way man's garage

    That's what this is … a great experiment. We are now in year three of this, and it's no longer, 'I have a theory.' We are looking dead in the face at facts.

    http://www.federalwaymirror.com/news/183085141.html


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  • Jebus Jebus

    It's nothing new, just another nuclear dead end…

    People have been building these for years and they take more energy to create than they produce.

    If we could harness fusion, efficiently, like the sun, it would have been done already.

    Trouble is, we would be just another tiny sun, if we could spark it off properly.

    Fusion works in the sun, because of the tremendous mass that it is.

    Uncomprehensible gravity and electromagnetism contain the perpetual event.

    Impossible to do on earth without turning into a torch.

    This is just a breeding ground for nucleocrats and their agenda.

    Wyoming teen makes nuclear fusion reactor in dad's shed

    Conrad is the first person in Wyoming, and one of about 60 in the world, to achieve nuclear fusion. Only about 15 of those are in high school

    http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/wyoming/wyoming-teen-makes-nuclear-fusion-reactor-in-dad-s-shed/article_30912899-080e-542f-a3ef-9ef6f688e209.html


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  • Jebus Jebus

    Nuclear Madness
    Maybe they get sick from all the money…
    Maybe they get sick from the power and want more…
    Read here and think. Some details of man made "fusion" are in the article.
    And some, of Bill's ideas are logical, some, are not…
    Fusion takes more than it gives, just like fission…
    If Fusion were feasable on earth, it would have been done already…

    Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos back nuclear power

    http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/2011/05/05/bill-gates-jeff-bezos-back-nuclear-power/


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  • lam335 lam335

    Can anyone explain the meaning of this for me:

    "… the fusor doesn’t use radioactive fuel …"


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  • Sickputer

    "Greninger's love for all things nuclear came from his family and his time in the military.

    "After I got out of the Army, I did five years with the Air Force at Fairchild Air Force Base, and then I went on to do another five years at Submarine Base Bangor, and did things I will not confirm nor deny," he said with a chuckle."

    http://www.federalwaymirror.com/news/183085141.html?mobile=true

    SP: Oh… Had a lot of fun time with manly men in the submarine? Did ole Hot Rod show you a Navy issue fusor? (Sorry…couldn't resist) :-) I am sure this lonely Microsoft nerd is just like your old uncle Earl back on the farm…a real friendly lonely old bachelor with a $100,000 physics toy for teenagers to play with on Friday nights.


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  • HoTaters HoTaters

    " … so a culture of safety is radiating out from his secret lab."

    If it's so great and so safe, why is it a "secret" lab? Do tell.

    Right, budster.


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  • VanneV anne

    There are laws against endangering the lives of minors and adults also. They got so many hot particles in Seattle from Fukushima. And they are not that far away from Hanford Nuclear Site.

    This man should have a radiation danger sign posted outside his house. If he was living in a house governed by a Home Owners Association, they would fine and evict him. The city should be responsible and protect the citizens living there.

    What does he do with his nuclear waste? Just throw it in the garbage can?


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  • lam335 lam335

    Here's a helpful article explaining fusion, though it's laced with occasional misleading remarks like this one: "No combustion occurs in nuclear power (fission or fusion), so there is no air pollution."

    "How Nuclear Fusion Reactors Work"
    http://science.howstuffworks.com/fusion-reactor.htm


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  • Sickputer

    Re: open Facebook profile for "Mr. Fusion"

    SP: very odd duck… Has only one relative listed? Daughter-in-law? So presumably he has or had a son. No mention of other family members. More of his "humorous" description of his former government secret work (Cannot confirm or deny). Oh well, it would be a boring old world if everyone was a clone.

    Thanks snowwy…sometimes I forget the biggest research outlet of them all…FB. A necessary evil for researchers although I cannot confirm or deny. >;->


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  • VanneV anne

    The end of the E-Cat story? Andrea Rossi loses supporters for his "cold fusion" device
    January 15, 2013
    “The story of the E-Cat, the ‘cold fusion’ device proposed by Mr. Andrea Rossi seems to be losing interest everywhere. Yesterday, Jan 14, another of Rossi's supporters, Mr. Daniele Passerini, announced that he is abandoning the fray and closing down his blog, at least for the time being.

    “Mr Passerini's blog, titled "22 steps of love" has been the main focus of support for the E-Cat in Italy up to now. He says in his last post, titled ‘ad maiora’ that "Some time ago, I wrote that, after that two years would have passed from the date of January 14 2011, I would quit in any case in the absence of official and certain announcements on the reality of the E-Cat." Passerini states that he will be waiting patiently and "will return when the news that we have been waiting for during the past two years will arrive"

    “The closing of Mr. Passerini's blog comes after that, in November of last year, another of Mr. Rossi's supporters, Mr. Paul Story of ‘eCatNews’ declared that he would close his blog because, ‘with scant hope of Rossi delivering on his promises, I find myself wondering why I would waste any more time on him. If he is committing fraud, he should be pursued by the police. Interest in the man or the subject is now relegated to the level of curiosity, not dedication.’


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  • VanneV anne

    Not only is e-cat a radioactive polluter and unsafe from triple threat of the radiation it leaks out and the radioactive waste it produces and the extremely high risk of exploding radioactive particulate matter into the atmosphere from an explosion, it uses more conventional energy than the energy it produces.


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  • VanneV anne

    “The Energy Catalyzer is a purported cold fusion reactor that is claimed to work by adding hydrogen to nickel to make copper, a reaction so ridiculously unfeasible it doesn't even happen in supernova explosions.[1]

    “It was created by two Italians, Andrea Rossi and Sergio Focardi. [2] They claim that their 400W input creates 12,400W of output heat.[3] In other words, a 31:1 ratio. Subsequent experiments which took Internet criticism into account produced less and less output.

    “Their claims raise a number of red flags, starting with the fact that they chose to announce their discovery at a press conference without publishing anything in peer reviewed journals. They tried to get published, but were rejected by serious journals. Their initial patent application was rejected. [4]

    “Rossi's 2011 demonstrations[5] showed neither measurable gamma nor neutron radiation[6] and there is no proof for the creation of non-natural isotope ratios in the alleged fusion products. Independent tests which might have proven a fusion process have so far failed.

    “Rossi claimed a 1 MW plant would be in operation by October 2011. His October 28th test put out 470kW! … though the ‘starter’ generator attached to the device (throughout the test) looked to observers – even supporters – rather like it could generate about 500kW.[7]


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    • VanneV anne

      [cont.]
      “Rossi's credentials

      “Rossi claims a second ‘Laurea’ title (common term for a final degree at an Italian University with an obligatory doctorate) in ‘Ingegneria Chimica’ (chemical engineering) at Kensington University in California, a known diploma mill which was shut down by court order in 2003.[8]
      "Rossi has previously been convicted of illegal trafficking of waste materials and was arrested for gold smuggling and money laundering."
      http://www.rexresearch.com/rossi/rossi.htm


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