TV: “Like they’re melting… a lot of melting sea stars out there” says Seattle biologist — Veterinarian: It’s concerning, in under a week roughly 60% of species are sick or dying — “Same thing happening near Canada and nobody’s sure why” (VIDEO)

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KING 5 News Seattle, Oct. 26, 2013 (h/t MoxNews):

Jeff Christiansen, Seattle Aquarium biologist: We’ve got some sea stars that look like they’re melting on the bottom.

Amy Moreno, KING 5 News: The same thing is happening in the waters near Canada and nobody’s sure why. The cause could be environmental or perhaps driven by disease.

Lesanna Lahner, veterinarian: We often think viral when we think of sea star disease. At this time, we don’t have a good idea of what’s causing it [...]

Moreno: Just a few weeks ago, the populations in Puget Sound waters looked healthy. [...] The news is not good [...] They estimate close to half appear to be sick or dying.

Christiansen: There are a lot of melting sea stars out there, more than even a couple days ago. There would be an apparently  healthy animal in really close proximity to a sick animal — no concentration of sick ones and concentration of good ones.

Moreno: The picture becomes more serious when the bags are opened inside of the lab.

Lahner: This animal has a classic appearance of a melting sea star [...] It’s concerning, it’s concerning — and it’s concerning to hear that in a short time period of under a week we’re seeing roughly 60% of this species diseased in this area. [...]

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See also: "Alarming" mass die-off of starfish in areas along Canada's Pacific coast -- "They've disintegrated, now there's just goo left" -- "Appeared to melt" -- "Single arms clinging to rock faces, tube feet still moving" -- Similar reports as far away as California (VIDEO)

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  • home sweet home…
    sigh…

    Anyone want me to mail em one just lemme know


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  • Tetsuo_Shima Tetsuo_Shima

    Could be used like some sort of wasabi for your sushi…


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  • OldFool

    Many different types of animals and fish have been sick and dying over the last two years on the coast of North America. Most bacteria and viruses are species specific – not likely to kill so many different animals at the same time. An incredibly strong chemical poison might be able to explain so many different species affected, but quantity would need to be very large – appears rather unlikely. These strange diseases in the Pacific near Canada can actually have a simple explanation. Destruction of the immune systems of multiple species by radiation – Chernobyl AIDS. Essential book to read is "Chernobyl Consequences of the Catastrophe
    For People and the Environment" by Yablokov et al.


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    • We Not They Finally

      Are they really asking the question why sincerely????I have one answer the dying food chain is caused by massive radiation. Just the same way extinction of all life will follow.Once extinction has finally ended this futile existence then maybe in eternal hell those who pushed the needles of death and despair will finally get their just reward…


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  • Kassandra

    A list of (nearly) all the animal anomalies publicly reported and privately observed

    http://majiasblog.blogspot.com/2013/10/animal-anomalies-is-fukushima-daiichi.html

    It is pretty clear that marine animals are most impacted.

    Remember that southern California kelp was found to be quite contaminated with Iodine-131 from Fukushima in the spring of 2011:

    S. Manley and C. Lowe (6 March 2012) ‘Canopy-Forming Kelps as California’s Coastal Dosimeter: 131I from Damaged Japanese Reactor Measured in Macrocystis Pyrifera’, Environmental Science & Technology, http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es203598r?journalCode=esthag

    The researchers did not test for cesium. The contamination was believed to be from precipitation, rather than ocean currents.

    Ocean currents no doubt are now also bringing contamination in.

    The radionuclides have had over 2 years to bio-accumulate and bio-magnify in the food chain.

    The list of animal anomalies is sobering. We need to demand that test results be published.

    Keep in mind that the radionuclides may not be directly killing the animals, but rather their bioaccumulation may be compromising immune systems, rendering the animals susceptible to opportunistic parasites, viruses, and bacteria.

    We DEMAND to know what concentrations of radionuclides are being found in key organs.

    Those who deliberately hide the truth and prevent remediation are murderers!


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      Each milliliter of ocean water contains several million virus particles. If lined up end to end, they would stretch 200 million light years into space. Viruses constitute 94% of all nucleic-acid containing particles in the sea and are 15 fold more abundant than bacteria and archaea.

      there are millions of times more viruses on Earth than there are stars in the universe. The majority of these viruses infect microbes. Viruses are important in selectively killing microbes.

      ocean viruses may turn over as much as 150 gigatons of carbon per year—more than 30 times the standing abundance of carbon in marine plankton.

      Viruses are affected by low level radiation. The consequence of viral mutations or death on microbes that infect animals, what to say the important function of viruses and bacteria themselves is never taken into account. A tipping point trigger


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      • Exactly. The volume of water in the Pacific ocean is huge. It is potentially a huge incubator of virus mutations. Here is one place where the solution to radioactive pollution is not dilution. This is because the number of radioactive disintegrations in the ocean as a whole is not a function of dilution, but instead is a function of becquerels only.

        So the number of DNA strikes, and consequent DNA damage to the millions of viruses in the ocean, is only a function of the total becquerels added. Add billions of becquerels of cesium 137 and strontium 90 daily, and you add a corresponding number of DNA strikes per day, and a corresponding opportunity for mutation.

        There has been some speculation that HIV was mutated into existence as a result of atmospheric nuclear bomb testing in the 1950s. So the mutation-creation of new and more virulent strains of existing viruses is plausible. This could be what happened to the sea stars.


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        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          it works both ways of course; if viruses become more virulent, some viral diseases could become worse. If viruses are wiped out, bacteria could explode. Two major dolphin die offs which were blamed on a bacterial infection occurred after Chernobyl and Fukushima. The ecosystem is so complex, it will never be understood. One thing that is easily understood is that increasing radiological poison 10x to 100,000x is not good and will only lead to disaster. Thats what poison does


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      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        Earth’s most abundant organism: SAR11, is an ocean-living bacterium and key to the earths ecosystem.

        SAR11 recycles organic matter, providing the nutrients needed by algae to produce about half of the oxygen that enters Earth’s atmosphere every day. Pelagiphages, the worlds most abundant virus, infect SAR11 killing untold millions of these bacteria cells every second.

        (in an above post I meant to say that if all the viruses in the ocean were lined up they would stretch 200 million light years)

        Its doubtful pro nuclear scientists calculated the effect of nuclear meltdowns on ocean microbes in their risk analysis


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        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          Theres more to the story than SAR11. “In major parts of the oceans, the micro-organisms responsible for providing oxygen and locking away carbon dioxide are single celled bacteria called cyanobacteria…These organisms, which are so important for making our planet inhabitable, are attacked and infected by a range of different types of viruses.”

          viruses are responsible for providing some of the genetic material that codes for key components of photosynthesis machinery in cyanobacteria.

          “some of the oxygen we breathe is a by-product of the bacteria suffering from a virus infection,” says Professor Mann. “Instead of being viewed solely as evolutionary bad guys, causing diseases, viruses appear to be of central importance in the planetary process. In fact they may be essential to our survival.”


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          • bo bo

            Is 'cyanobacteria' just one type of SAR 11 or is SAR 11 cyanobacteria ?

            Was cyanobacteria that organism that thrives in radiation…?


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            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              bo, I think cyanobacteria and SAR11 are two different microorganisms, both producing oxygen. Cyanobacteria relies on viruses for photosynthesis DNA codes. SAR11 and others are kept in check by viruses. If something were to happen to these viruses, the ocean would change radically, probably ending life as we know it.

              There are many different kinds and sizes of phytobacteria. Scientists believe that phytoplankton contribute between 50 to 85 percent of the oxygen in Earth’s atmosphere. Doubling the radioactive pollution in the ocean, or raising it 5x, or even 10,000x in some places will have effects on this balance of the worlds most abundant and important organisms.

              An interesting article here;

              SAR11 and the Evolution of Mitochondria
              http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/4122/sar11-and-the-evolution-of-mitochondria


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    • sayonara kitty sayonara kitty

      (poster formally known as gnomesang, account wont let me sign in …)
      i read that link at majia's blog, (i couldn't post there either ??) but, she also noticed
      the hermit crabs and cockroaches missing this summer, and i wanted to add that i too live
      in san diego (north county) and have noticed a drastic loss of earthworms. i used to take care
      of an alzheimers patient, we used to walk constantly and i would pick the earthworms off the side
      walks and gutters and throw them back in the dirt. (i couldn't stand to see them dry up as the sun
      came up more and more), i would get about 20-30 each morning, then around mid summer…none, i would see maybe 2 a month, and they would be really bad looking, open wounds, segmented really bad. same with the monarch butterflys. i am so pissed, what a beautiful planet, what a beautiful ocean. i can't tell you how many "best days" of my life included the pacific ocean as a participant.
      heartbroken seems too mild a word for what i am feeling.


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    I put my guppies in the microwave oven, power level 10 for 2 years and now they are looking quit sickly. "Nobody's sure why."

    Note: No sea life was harmed in the making of this comment.


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  • ftlt

    Again, this may have nothing to do with FUFU..

    It may be pointing to a bigger problem..

    Heads up, gang.. Take a look around


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  • OldFool

    The bone marrow is essential for the production of the T cells and B cells of the adaptive immune system. Without healthy bone marrow, there is no adaptive immune system. Then death by any pathogen or even a normally harmless bacteria, virus, or fungus is inevitable, as in AIDS. Any radionuclide that emits gamma rays is a plausible candidate, like our old friends cesium 137 and 134. And any bone seeking radionuclide such as alpha particle emitting strontium 90, plutonium 239, americium 241, or beta particle emitting phosphorus 32, etc. would also be a good candidate as a bone marrow killer.
    Anyone who has access to a good mass spectrometer should try to identify the cause and publish a paper. You might win a Nobel prize, if you don't get assassinated before you win it.


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  • OldFool

    Sorry, I made a grammatical error. Strontium 90 is a beta particle emitter, should have been listed with phosphorus 32.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Yes, it is very clear… :(


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  • OldFool

    If chemical poison is not the fundamental cause and vertebrate immune system damage from bone marrow damage is to be explored – here is a list of the usual suspects for bone seeking beta particle emitters that have been simulated for damage to bone marrow, nastier ones listed first Y-90, P-32, Sr-90, F-18, Na-22, Ca-45.
    Half life of P-32 is ~14 days, so not a likely suspect.
    Half life of Y-90 is ~3 days, not a practical suspect.
    Half life of Sr-90 is 28.8 years, a very likely suspect.
    Half life of F-18 is 110 minutes, not a practical suspect.
    Half life of Na-22 is 2.6 years, another possible suspect.
    Half life of Ca-45 is 162 days, a lesser suspect.
    Strontium 90 appears very much to be the best candidate of the beta emitters for bone marrow damage.
    Plutonium 239 and americium 241 could be worthwhile candidates from the alpha emitter radionuclides, but their absorption from food is supposed to be relatively slow, if my memory is correct. But the apex predators eat so much, maybe it doesn't matter. Someone else can perhaps suggest better alpha particle emitter candidates.


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  • gmathol

    What the international community allows Japan to do is criminal and we all will suffer – especial our children.


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  • pkjn

    The evidence is clear: Fukushima radiation is still tearing up West Coast of USA
    Sunday, October 27, 2013
    (NaturalNews) There has also been a series of strange animal deaths recently, including masses of sea lions, sockeye salmon and other sea creatures washing up on the shore. Many of the polar bears, seals and walruses observed along the Alaska coastline have also been found to have major fur loss and open sores, both of which are indicative of radiation poisoning.
    Then we have the scientific reports that claim radioactive water will continue to impact the U.S. West Coast for many years to come, potentially doubling in strength over the next five or six years. Plankton, bluefin tuna and other sea life collected between Hawaii and California are already testing high for radiation, and these levels are expected to continue increasing.
    http://www.naturalnews.com/042687_fukushima_nuclear_plant_radiation_contamination_west_coast.html


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  • Keen

    Does this have anything to do with Nuclear or fossil fuels or any other human made toxins. If so what is the basis for all the calms so many people hear so easily make. I am interested in a basis other than weak circumstantial evidence. Where is the science and the direct linkages. Claims are easy to make but I have for the most part stopped entering these conversations because it is more often a waste of my time. I am not interested in getting on the claims band wagon. I am interested in evidence. And I am interested in not diluting credibility of evidence for the harms that the nuclear industry causes through endless talking around random undemonstrated linkages.


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  • OldFool

    Well, since 2011 there have been reports of several different types of animals and marine life exhibiting serious symptoms of different types of disease. The animals appear to range from far Northeast Russia, along the entire coast of Alaska to coast of Canada to the US west coast – a Very Long extent of coastline. What could be causing this? (1) Climate change – possible, but this should have appeared even before 2011, and should be hitting the entire world, not just the Northeast Pacific rim – appears unlikely. (2) Poisons released by Japanese tsunami debris, or mining or agriculture in North America, or leakage from Hanford's tank farm, or deposits of toxins released by seismic activity deep off the Pacific coast – possible, but the quantity of poison would need to be enormous to affect such a vast coastline – appears unlikely. (3) Some new agents of bacteria, virus, or fungus created by fish farming or mutation or from something else – but each agent would be pretty host species limited – does not seem likely since so many different types of animals and marine life are being affected. (4) Immune system damage from radiation exposure – this appears to be the most likely cause, because it could easily affect many different types of animals and marine life, and there has been a massive air release of radiation since 2011, and additional ocean current flows of radiation that should have been hitting the coast of North America by now. Cause(4) best fits the data so far.


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  • Keen

    Ok OldFool

    Showing coralation through linking many dissimilar biological maladies over a specific but broad geographic region in a set time frame is still circumstancial evidence. It is a nice effort tward building a case though. I have seen the reports of most of the cases you are reffering to as I do follow this site. I am equaly perplexed and concerend about the things that are occurring and in many cases it does seem strong possibility for the Fukushima crisis (and other tsunami related toxic releases) is a likely cause. I am not automatically going to declare these things as the cause however as so many people are so quick to do it seems no matter what the report is. With virtually all of these reports when they are made the cause is unknown and yet to be determined. In some of these cases such as the seals that were developing skin legions with associated mortality it seems a linkage to radioactive toxins would be relatively easy to ascertain. Yet for this case as well as virtually all the others I have seen no reports that clearly ascertain a cause. None of the biologists studying these instances are coming out and saying they have found clear evidence of a radionuclide link. As far as I know the causes for most of these cases remain undetermined.

    As well there always seem to be many mysteries with the animals in the oceans around the world such as when hundreds of Mantarays beached themselves at Gaza City. I have run out of word space so I will end.


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  • Alpha1

    Consider one thing Curium and Yttrium both eat natural Iodides and the star is made up of almost all Iodine, same with Clams, Crabs, Squid, Octopus,and many other fish. Since nobody has ever seen the CHINA Syndrome and Complete Melt, all are speculating.

    Truth is hard for humans to face, since they are blind to it. I will just say do the math core can melt though anything we know and feeds on carbon. Hit the floor burning and through the sub it is now roughly or should I say all three 5,596,880 feet in the ground. THis is why they can not stop it, to late for that…


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