TV: People will be consuming radioactive material coming from Fukushima — Seafood “much further away” from region will have unacceptable levels of contamination at times, says senior scientist (VIDEO)

Published: September 5th, 2013 at 12:02 pm ET
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Title: No good options at Japans damaged nuclear plant
Source: MSNBC
Date: Sept. 4, 2013
h/t MoxNews

At 8:30 in

Edwin Lyman, Union of Concerned Scientists: There is seafood that concentrates radioactivity. The fishing industry in the region has been devastated, and it looks like it’s not going to come back any time soon.

And there will be occasional levels of contamination in seafood much further away, that will be unacceptable.

People are going to be slowly consuming the radioactive material coming out of Fukushima.

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Published: September 5th, 2013 at 12:02 pm ET
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49 comments to TV: People will be consuming radioactive material coming from Fukushima — Seafood “much further away” from region will have unacceptable levels of contamination at times, says senior scientist (VIDEO)

  • zardoz2012 zardoz2012

    I have officially stopped eating all fish and seafood as of August 2013. I might have waited too long to do so.

    I will never eat fish again, even if it claims to be from the Atlantic, because I don't trust the industry to be truthful at this point. Because of the massive coverup and blatant lies I don't trust anyone anymore.

    • crystalwind crystalwind

      Atlantic fish–it's just as well that you stopped. I'm no oceanographer but it seems to me that unless there's a dike around the Gulf of Mexico, Atlantic fish are getting spiced with Corexit and other corporate flavorings.

    • VyseLegendaire VyseLegendaire

      I'm with you on that.

  • jec jec

    Seafood, "AT TIMES," contaminated means playing Russian roulette-could be one of many or many of many. No way to tell. There is no easy way to test each fish (radiation contamination is like sprinkling pepper, it is randomly located..) in the ocean and in living creatures. No dosimeter or wand(unless done with $$ equipment, in a laboratory setting) can test food accurately. Dosimeters are great for testing increases in "background radiation" or catching/tiggering at high exposure at a location. Specialized equipment is needed for foods such as fish..rice or fruit. If a dosimeter was placed next to a food product over a period of time..it might, just might capture one of the 360 degrees radiated particles..or not. So even if level is high, its just a fraction of the dosage in a products. Government administrations know this, so its easy for coverups of food product contamination. Other items are similar, and for humans..all that wand waving..great..its the same thing one would think. Scary. Russia has stopped imports from Japan for radiation, such as cars, etc. Anyone else hear of food products being rejected? Of course, the USA lets JAPAN test our foods…and imports, thanks to Hillary Clinton…because we can trust Japan with our Treasury Bonds of course(sarcasm)…

    • zardoz2012 zardoz2012

      There will be mass starvation in many parts of the world because they can no longer eat the fish.

      • We Not They Finally

        In the U.S. we at least have some choice so far. Cultures like the Inuits in Alaska and Canada will keep eating fish while they can because there may be little else — that's "their diet." Illnesses may skyrocket because of it, but people will be sick rather than starve.

        On the other hand, it's also true that whole species of fish are dying off from this — like sardines and krill, and the salmon catch off Alaska was way down this year.

        However you cut it, it has to be the worst news for the seafaring chunks of the world. Too little food, poisoned food, so very sad.

        • Anthony Anthony

          And all totally ultimately preventable in the first place. We never had to go down this road. We don't have to stay on it either.

          There comes a point where survival has to become a priority.

    • A pancake detector can be used for food and drinks…

      Safecast is a great place to get one affordably.

      • Every grocery store in the world should have one available for anyone that wants to test their food before purchase.

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          Excellent!

          A new way to try to chase/track this invisible, tasteless and odorless "ghost of death" around!

          These however can not measure food etc. if I am not mistaken. So I guess one could walk around any hot spot if they found it.

          This Nuclear Technology and its resultant ongoing Forever Radiation Contamination is the perfect killer!

          • kez

            Hi Obe. The article was a follow on to Dr G's mention of Safecast. Interesting I thought. It provides some history of who they are (cool guys; I'd definitely support their efforts) and what they are developing now.

            Also the smart phone geigers (other co mentioned) have come a long way too.

            I haven't any idea about how they'd work for food testing.

            • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

              Yes, these guys and gals are working hard to follow this radiation contamination nightmare around and they are doing a great job and no this tech can not be used to monitor/test food properly.

              It was a great find on your part and there will be many more who will get involved and they have no choice but to get involved, since this will not go away in the future and it will all get much worse. I was aware of this years ago and they are moving in the right direction.

              The sad thing/reality is I doubt it will do anything to improve/solve this situation but they are creating a very radioactive world for us whether we like it or not. One might feel better knowing where the hot spots are but then just what radioactive isotope are you then dealing with. Some are moderate slow mutagens and some are fast wild mutagens.

              Best course of action is to end this now forever nightmare and simply close down, out law and/or shut down all Nuclear Power Plants now!

              Great info! πŸ™‚

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Northern Hemisphere farmland, and now the oceans. Changed forever, thanks to nuclear.

  • The Rachael Maddow Show at about 3 min in.
    (from the watch broadcast here link above)

    It's obvious, by the look on their faces, there are no good options.

    Rachael: "How worrying is it?"

    Lyman: "The fishing industry is devastated…"

    Lyman: "Their options are limited…"

    • We Not They Finally

      ChasAha, we saw this interview and would definitely call it "cautious." It was probably a big breakthrough, but also frustrating as it was so cautious. And very much NO mention of the likes of coriums or melt-throughs.

      Interesting that they brought up the 2020 Olympics, which the Japanese have the audacity to bid for. It was pointed out that just two hours north of Tokyo, one could die in four hours flat just from standing next to one of the plants.

  • weeman

    I am not in agreement with the statement, there will be occasional levels of contamination in seafood much further away, that will be unacceptable.
    Once found to be contaminated to unacceptable levels, I don't see it coming down in near future, only to accumulate, it can not do otherwise.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Wow, that ended on a note…

    Clarification on Rachaels statement of "it's been raised from a level one to a level three.

    Do not let that stick…

    This is an ongoing Level 7+ Ecological Nuclear Disaster.

    November 5 2011
    Special Report on the Nuclear Accident at the
    Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station

    http://pbadupws.nrc.gov/docs/ML1134/ML11347A454.pdf

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Jebus,
      Got's to love the manipulation of all the words and meanings inside the art of "Nuclear Word Craft".

      We must all keep shopping!

      • mairs mairs

        I like that phrase.. "Nuclear word Craft".

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          Yes mairs, that is the legal terminology "Nuclear Word Craft" that they (Nuclear Industry with Civil Authorities) have been shoving down all our throats now for the past 60 years…

          Open Wide!

          Since I am afraid more is on the way!

          Might want to skip a meal or two and make some more room for more Nuclear Word Craft Bullshitus!

  • Sol Man

    Are we at the point where cremation is banned and the deceased must be buried in lead coffins yet?

    • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

      Radiation is like entropy.
      All concentrated forms of energy ultimately dissipate as heat.
      Same will be true for Fukushima Radiation.
      It will spread out.
      It will get into everything.

      Ultimately, Fukushima Radiation will be in the body,
      In the wool of the suit.
      In the flower adorning the lapel,
      In the wood that makes the coffin.
      In the steel of the hearse.
      In the ground into which the coffin is lowered.
      In the lead lining.

      Me, I'm off to the wine store to buy another case of one of my favorite 2010 California chardonnays. πŸ˜‰
      (Get busy, little radiation-eating cyanobacterium! Eat up all the radiation.)

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Yes! We all must..Party On!

        Bobby!
        Yes Philip!
        Bring me more wine for me and all my friends and make sure it's the California wine that glows inside the store!
        Yes Sir!

        Next!

      • weeman

        Has anyone the temperature of the water in wells, outlets or ground water, etc. what is the temperature of waste water tanks?
        As you say all concentrated forms of energy dissipate as heat, I believe this is the source of fog and would confirm many questions as to state of fuel.?
        Never stop asking questions, even if they can not be varified.
        Be well my fellow minions.

      • norbu norbu

        PhilipUpNorth, for us a 2010 Italian Organic Brumaio Sangiovese Grocery Outlet. Let's toast, To all enenewsers. [Glass is raised]
        N

        • mairs mairs

          Checks bottle for vintage….

          *clink*

          • vicky13 vicky13

            don't drink but thinking of margaritas I remember they were yummy when I used to drink. Right now I have 3, 2 week old baby budgies cuddling with me, while their parents feed 4 tiny budgies. It is cuteness overload.

            cheers

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Sol Man,
    Soon this will be a reality but then we all must be patient for what comith this way!

    You have identified a prime future business endeavor/enterprise though!

    This venture will soon be booming and glowing while radiating success for all those involved!

    I can envision lead caskets being sold on every corner for mandatory by law preparations for all families/citizens that will be told to shelter in place.

    Certainly a survival civil authority code will be enforced requiring everybody to bury in place since no way will there ever exist enough funeral homes to handle the massive death loads.

    Good luck on your business venture and you are very wise!

    I will pre-order 12 lead caskets to start you off. πŸ™‚ Do you have a ship date?

    • We Not They Finally

      Let's not get too eager to envision specific bad things. It may be soon enough. Just not much of a comfort level making jokes about this stuff.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Potential envisioned future realities should not be considered a form of humor…its called proper preparations.

        Your government has millions of caskets stored all over the country but sadly they are made of plastic for the most part. They have also built many concrete enclosures too but I did not see any lead.

        How many lead caskets will you order? I got dibs for 12 each.

        If the law is passed you will have to follow it and yes stop drinking those 16OZ sodas.. will ya!

        • Sol Man

          Actually, I would prefer to help people get access to affordable, "organic", or at least clean as we can get it, good food. I have dark thoughts about this event and the future, just like anybody here, hence my previous comment.

          Let me add that mallow should be an organically farmed crop, as well as Seven-top Turnip Greens= a more user-friendly green you will not find. The mucilage in the mallow is excellent for tissue and GI tract health, and the turnip top, well you will just have try them to experience the good. They are heirloom, pre 1800. Please enjoy the meals!

          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            You will have to go/plant inside under heavy filtration for anything to legally be termed organic in the future..

            When you trash your entire planet and ecosystem and all of its natural resources on purpose, then the way of life for you and those coming after you in the future must change..

  • We are rapidly running out of options and we are terminally running out of time..SHUT THEM ALL DOWN NOW!

    Former Nuclear Regulator NRC Chairman Says – 100% Of ALL US Nuclear Reactors Should Be SHUT DOWN PERMANENTLY! via @AGreenRoad
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/09/former-nuclear-regulator-nrc-chairman.html

    Why All Nuclear Power Plants Must Be Shut Down
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/p/why-all-nuclear-plants-must-be-shut-down.html

  • ProfitOfDoom ProfitOfDoom

    Lead caskets could be used to sleep in before it is time for your "Dirt Nap" … $$POD$$

  • Let's expand on this..

    Lead refrigerators

    Lead lined cars

    Lead lined clothing

    Lead helmets, (with tin foil lining for the conspiracy folks)

    Lead lined cubicles to work in

    Lead pipes for water

    Put lead back in gasoline, so we can all breathe it

    Put lead back in paint, and make it 95% lead

    Lead wraps for the critters

    Lead lined Santa Sleigh

    That should fix the problem with radiation.. No one can stop us now!

    (Sarc)

    • or-well

      Did someone say lead?
      This job is for NITCO –
      World Crime TV!
      Here's our cute reporter
      on Radio-LOL-oh-gee…

      "Hi! Why am I covered in old Christmas tinsel?
      It's made of lead! Rad protection! So simple!
      It makes pretty highlights in ANY haircolor!
      It won't tarnish like silver and get dull and duller!
      Looped on a headband it makes really cute bangs –
      sort of like doing a harem-girl thang!
      And who doesn't like tassels somewhere on a bodice?
      Flat-chested or buxom, it's always good to be noticed!
      Dangled from a belt, it sways with hip-shimmy!
      Bring back lead tinsel! It's this seasons new 'Gimme!'
      Just watch your posture as it can get heavy.
      That's rad-protection from World Crime TV!"

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Fukushima doomed the Pacific Seafood Industry. Worldwide, seafood is a $45 billion a year industry. Perhaps $25 billion of that is from the Pacific Basin. My guess is that Fukushima took out that $20 billion of annual Pacific Ocean seafood industry economic activity. Anybody have better figures on this? Japan is the leading Pacific Ocean harvesting and processing nation. If they catch it, who is going to want to eat it? Soon, the fishing fleets will sit at anchor, not even bothering to haul sick and mutated fish out of the Pacific. As Pacific Ocean Seafood prices fall, BOGO sales will try to unload excess inventory, just as the supermarkets do with mutated Gulf Shrimp, and Chinese Farm Raised (on pig manure) Fish. Japan will go into a deep recession. This is even before their population has been decimated by radiation-induced disease.

    No Pacific Seafood for me. If I don't know where it comes from, I'll just take a pass. (Reminds me of Sherdon's glowing goldfish night light. Big Bang Theory.). πŸ™‚

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Your impression of the negative impact is correct!

      Someone stated that people will starve from not eating this radioactive fish. I do not think this will be the case, since when you are starving you will eat anything.

      These people will continue to eat the fish and it will be the tainted radioactive fish that will kill them.

      P.S. If you see someone starving and then staring directly at you, then you better feed them something very quickly even if it glows and if not then you better run like hell!

    • They will relabel that seafood as 'extra special', and sell even more of it.

      It is already happening.. Fukushima food is 'special', and is sold in Tokyo markets as 'premium' food.

      Those promoting it say people should be patriotic and buy it, ahead of all other food.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Gee, the potentials you listed for making massive amounts of money are just staggering!

    Capitalism at its best! Shush!

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Jump window just opened..later! πŸ™‚

  • rockyourworld

    i stopped eating seafood after the bp spill. weeks ago i caved. i ate shrimp with lobster sauce and some fried haddock. both from unknown origins. both were excellent! i did have a horrible feeling in my stomach for days. now i can wonder.

  • rockyourworld

    a few days ago a bump appeared on my thryroid gland. i know i shouldnt panic. please, no show of sympathy. could be nothing. now i can wonder if i did it to myself with the fish.

  • SusanS

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