TV: It’s a “record-high” leak at Fukushima, extraordinarily radioactive — Almost 8,000,000 times limit — Even more toxic since it was from early in disaster — Alarm went off 9 hours before, but disregarded — Now checking for other leaks — “News came as a shock” (VIDEO)

Published: February 20th, 2014 at 9:54 pm ET


NHK, Feb. 20, 2014: Record-high tainted water leak at Fukushima plant […] the leaked water contained an extraordinarily high 230-million becquerels per liter of beta-ray emitting substances, consisting mainly of strontium 90. The level is about 7.6 million times the government’s permissible standard […] the highest level of radioactive substances detected so far in the series of tank leaks at the site. […] Officials say they managed to stop the leak […] 6 hours after the problem was first discovered. […] The Nuclear Regulation Authority has instructed TEPCO to check other tanks for possible leakages.

Kyodo, Feb. 20, 2014: More than nine hours before the leak was recognized, an alarm indicating a rise in the tank’s water surface level was issued. But workers thought the device was out of order and also could not find leaks when they patrolled the area […]

NHK, Feb. 20, 2014: [Tepco] found the water contained 240 million becquerels per liter of beta-ray emitting substances, including strontium. […] an alarm went off more than 9 hours before the leak was spotted, signaling an increase in the tank’s water level. But the tank’s water-level gauge showed a sharp drop, leading workers to believe that the alarm sounded due to the malfunction of the gauge.

AP, Feb. 20, 2014: [Tepco] said the leak involved partially treated water from early in the disaster at the plant, meaning it was more toxic than previous leaks.

Al Jazeera, Feb. 20, 2014: Leaked water is almost 8 million times [legal limit for ocean release].

Tepco: “We think that the amount that leaked out of the barrier is 100 tons […] As far as we have confirmed at this point there’s no drain nearby […] We think there’s been no leak into ocean.”

Masakazu Yabuki, head of Fukushima Pref. fishermen’s group: “This news came as a shock.”

Watch NHK’s broadcast here

Published: February 20th, 2014 at 9:54 pm ET


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152 comments to TV: It’s a “record-high” leak at Fukushima, extraordinarily radioactive — Almost 8,000,000 times limit — Even more toxic since it was from early in disaster — Alarm went off 9 hours before, but disregarded — Now checking for other leaks — “News came as a shock” (VIDEO)

  • RonM RonM

    OK Experts time to weigh in on this new nightmare!

    Will the world ever wake up or will it be too late?

    Great leaping alligators is this latest release just a fraction of the toxic brew being held in the hastily constructed storage tanks sitting on cracking concrete over soupy sand?

    Tune in next week on the same ELE channel to see if radiation planet can escape the toxic grip of the Japanese Joker!

    TNT "tons of tears"

    If anyone has any links to ongoing radioactivity measurements in the NYC area please post the links, thank you.

    I'm beginning to lose my mind worrying about radioactive snow and rain and vegetables grown in the yard and supermarket food, I've shoveled snow a dozen times this winter and had snow blown into my face and down my neck when accidentally bumping into tree branches, I change my sneakers at the front door and shower but I'm sure if there is any contamination I'm not really having that much effect because the neighbor and other people that visit walk in with wet shoes and drips from the porch roof are unavoidable.

    And what if the media ends the blackout and things get really bad then we all have to worry about rioting and looting and a SHTF scenario?

    I'm thinking suicidal thoughts that I haven't had for over a decade back when I was constantly depressed over life's ordinary hardships and tribulations.

    But we do have a right to know if we are being exposed to radioactivity and how much don't we?

    • charlie3

      I hear you, Ron. I used to like walking in the rain, now I do everything I can to avoid it. And yes, I sometimes wonder if the media is right to stay siletn about this disaster; the majority of people would probably freak right out if they knew the magnitude of the situation.

    • bluetick

      great news.. ukraine nuc plant now in protesters hands…time for Putin to roll in a quash this BS…report is his elite military has already mixed with protesters and will quickly dispose of the problem…

    • Rons, its bad, but not throwing in the towel time. Get a geiger and you will feel a lot better. The unknown is a bitch, knowledge is better no matter what reality is.

      • PaciFistic Pacifisitic

        stock–just the perfect comment for Ron, and in only 3 short sentences.

        Our reactions are usually a function of our personal psychology, which psychology if we get a handle on it we can transform, which is tantamount to transforming our DNA. Don't wait for those hot isotopes; they're not picky! This transformation presumes knowledge, knowledge which those before us have with much effort pioneered to discover. How to deal with our minds with respect to what we know and other revelations to come.

        Generally, with knowledge, seems there's 3 types in terms of how users treat it: knowledge treated with responsibility; knowledge received with uncertainty…we're not sure what to do with it; knowledge exploited mindlessly for profit. Einstein's findings would fall into the last category.

        Some things are best kept secret, until mankind has evolved to the requisite level. Alas, with the cat long out of the bag, we now may never get that chance to collectively reach our birthright potential.

      • Better to know than not to know. For those that also think so, Fukushima Business Cards 4 U! And everyone else, too!

        These nifty cards are easy to print and pass out.
        Or leave randomly, where ever you please. Distribute liberally.

        Get the rad word out, People

    • Au Au

      RonM, I'm in MI and I am testing the snow but not picking up Cesium (Amazing. I thought I would). I am testing everything and out of it all I figure I will back off on walnuts, pumpkin seeds, hemp seeds, CA beef. We cut out meat and dairy just because it's not really that great for us anyway although we do eat pastured organic eggs.
      We wear a niosh 100 masks while doing snow. I tested clothes that come in from snow shoveling and it is within normal background.

      Take your shoes off before entering your place. Coat too. It's a good habit to get into anyway. Use an umbrella. Like stock says- if you could get a geiger counter and get some info that helps a LOT.

  • Sickputer

    The bad news at the plant comes in machine gun bursts.

    Does anyone really expect the ice wall will be completed? Have they even started it?

    They can't even stop hot toxic water from leaking from their shoddy bolted water tanks (welded seams might last longer).

    So do we have any shred of hole they can stop an underground river and tidal flow?

    I hold no brief for their success in stopping the out of control nuclear megaplex.

    Things will get worse.

    • Gasser Gasser

      Frank Sinatra: I did it My Way


      NRC: They Did It Their Way

      And now the end is near

      So we face the final curtain
My friend, I'll say it clear
I'll state my case of which I'm certain.

      Were living life that cannot be fulfilled 

      We've traveled each contemned highway

      And more, much more than this

      NRC screwed us their way.

      Regrets, we've had, more than a few
But then again, too many to mention

      We did what we had to do

      And grimaced through NRC's deception.

      We've seen each Cesium charted course

      Each radioactive step along the byway

      Oh, and more, much more than this

      TEPCO also screwed us their way.

      Yes, there were times, I'm sure you know

      When scientist bit off more than they knew

      But through it all when there was doubt

      They ate our money up and spit us out

      We faced it all and we protested it all

      And did it our ENEnews way.

      We've feared, we've pained and cried

      We've seen their fails, their fear of losing

      And now our tears never subside

      We find it all so humanity abusing

To think they did all that

      And may we say, in a really pissed off way

      Oh, yes, yes, it's them

      Nuclear scientist did it their…..ELE way

      For no longer is man, what has he got

      If not himself, then he has not

      To say the words he truly feels
And the truth words he would reveal

The record shows Nuclear reactor blows

      And they did the dirty deeds

      The record shows we can't take the blows.

They pulled the wool…

  • 21stCentury 21stCentury

    ~~~ Build A Bigger Breakwater – NOW!! ~~~

    I have posted this here in Enenews before, but I'm now making a revision in my design.. I think it's better to make the bigger outer seawall in a circular arc shape, then continue that arc onto the land uphill as a footing for a huge dome roof.. I have some interesting thoughts of how to contain and manage this whole mess as an "open pool reactor"… yeah, it will still probably leak a little tiny bit, but it will be one heck of a lot better than what we're faced with just keeping it as a uncontrolled nuke-volcano on the beach.
    …this will give us a chance to contain further collapses and small nukefires.
    I have an interesting idea on how to quickly build the worlds biggest dome roof without getting workers too much exposure

    Some of the soils used for the concentric rings of breakwaters can be the lightly contaminated surface dirt in the nearby areas, and some of the soils can be from pool excavations built as impoundment ponds to replace many of the leaky tanks…
    …will work on another sketch when I have time.

    • FallOut FallOut

      I like your idea but the plant is over a fault. In the link below they have a picture of a very large crack by the sea side buildings. It's built over a fault so the corium backwash goes down into the sandstone hundreds of meters down.

      " In several of these cross-sections, an ancient fault, predating the later Miocene, is clearly visible under the nuclear site. Whereas the geological survey conducted prior to the construction of the plant does not reveal this fault (drilling did not go beyond a depth of 200 meters at the time), it is clear from the documents dated 2009 and 2010 that Tepco and the NSC have known about it for several years. The following cross-section shows this fault with even greater depth (- 1300 m): "

      • 21stCentury 21stCentury

        FallOut.. thx 4 the teamwork help here..

        HDD-drilling can form an icewall basket of deep U-shaped frozen channels underneath the row of reactors at a very deep depth, or the desired depth.

        The cracked faults in the mudstone can be mostly sealed&healed with icewall.

        The Hoover Dam Bridge was built using a large aerial cable crane..
        FDNPP can be unbuilt in a similar method.

        This project requires massive sized equipment..

        goog: graphene radioactive

        Alaska has 300million tons of graphite ready to be mined and converted to graphene, this enough to supply cleanup filtration for FDNPP & Hanford & WIPP & INEL & many other nukemesses.


        • FallOut FallOut

          If the spent fuel pools didn't burn down already under the weight of said facts bring forth the cesium spectacular or the mox didn't go critical then get belched into the jet stream or cobalt-60 onsite open air spectacular or the gamma shine tanks getting dumped ….. if I could forget about all the airborne isotopes, maybe I'd say " go for it kid "

          But i just can't do that in good faith.

          • 21stCentury 21stCentury

            It's like WorldWar-1 .. when the corpses are being used as sandbags, and the poison gas is welcome scent to cover the stench of death, and your position is being shelled by allied artillery from the rear (because some goofy general thinks you're not fighting hard enough).. ..then you get really determined to find a way to fall back and retrench.. IMPROVISE; and if you don't know how to improvise then just hurry up and find some other way to do it !!

            Yeah, it's just a nuke-volcano that needs to be tamed.

            I'm old but I can still kick ass.. in my superhero underwear made of Demeron.

            I'm working out a method to actually freeze the whole place.. graphene&silica aerogel can do magic stuff.


    • FallOut FallOut

      This photo pack has a ton of pictures but the 13th from the bottom shows a massive slice / void in a supply roadway. The asphalt gives you a good idea of the drop off.

      • AirSepTech AirSepTech

        Great Photos quality wise

        Can't hardly believe any fuel is left in 3 & 4

        On the Physics Forum the groundwater @ 400m2 was questioned, Tepco was pumping 850-1200m2 before the accident to keep the basements dry

        yea, whatever

  • perhaps strontium does not aggregate, floating, like uranium and cesium.

  • Jebus Jebus

    What, you mean all this water is radioactive? OMG!

    I remember the story of JFK looking out the window and asking,

    "You mean that rain, out there?"

    • RonM RonM

      That's exactly what I mean! "You mean that rain out there?"

    • American Phoenix57

      "A year earlier, in September of ’61, after the Soviets had disregarded a voluntary moratorium and detonated the largest ground-based ‘atmospheric’ nuke ever designed “in meetings with scientists, he asked..about radioactive fallout. ‘Where would we be if testing had continued at the 1958 rate?’ he asked Dr. Charles Dunham, director of the Atomic Energy Commission’s Division of Biology and Medicine. ‘Civilized man would have been in trouble,’ Dunham said.

      ‘How does the radioactive fallout get to the earth?’ he asked his science advisor, Jerome Wiesner. ‘The clouds are washed out by rain,’ answered Wiesner. Kennedy looked out..into the garden. It was a rainy day and he asked: ‘You mean it’s in the rain out there?’ ‘Yes’ Wiesner said… Kennedy did not speak for a long time."
      – President Kennedy, [pp226-227] President Kennedy, Profile of Power, R.Reeves.

      • razzz razzz

        Remember (Old) Russia seeded the clouds holding Chernobyl fallout to get it to washout before it traveled to more neighboring countries where they were afraid they might get sued in international courts over the fallout. Belarus received the bulk of that radiation from Chernobyl's plume and cloud seeding (60% of the radioactive fallout) and is still heavily radioactively contaminated today with all the multitude of problems that goes with it.

  • FallOut FallOut

    So, what is the total number of gallons onsite in these tanks.

    & I thought they cleaned this. It could be sprayed back over the corium & burnt fuel pools in a feed back loop shutdown scenario that could also drive a water park, ya' an open air reactor park, three headed pony rides and dead dolphin throwing contest.

    Kids can play find the buckey balls behind the plant on the storage hill now that the dirts been tilled, find a mox chip & your next gamma shine shake is FREE.

  • FallOut FallOut

    What is the total number of gallons in storage so we can figure out the total Strontium-90 release later on because they will lie about it.

  • norbu norbu

    I am so shocked! NOT. I am sure it is much worse than this. Drip, Drip Drip….My Alarm has been going off since 3-11-11 and has not stopped.

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      What is really sad about this article is they said they have "stepped up patrols" so in other words they are sending the homeless in to walk around in their hefty bag suits, exposing them to massive doses just so they can say they are "patrolling" ….this is beyond cruelty.

      I wonder if these patrols have any gauges with them….probably not, because that would make too much sense.

      • Vince Vince Ivey

        Maybe they have those Safety gauges that are made with a Lead shell around them.

        "Man Yohiro these meters are HEAVY!"

      • Q1988 Q1988

        They are screening for that one super human who is immune to radiation. A kind of cockroach person. Cockroaches are immune to radiation; right?
        This person will be the new messiah. All future generations will stem from this person.
        Either that or all future generations will be like the walking dead.

  • Paulie777

    We should be thankful we had energy, and used it liberally to enjoy our lives. A little mishap, for sure, but as adults we need to lighten up. We tell children not to play with matches and then we as adults go do this. So we are little children ourselves playing with nuclear fire with no God to tell us what not to do and here we are. A little humor here please, that never hurt anyone. There was a duck near the ocean at Fukushima and it said "Quark" instead of quack! Ha Ha ha. Energy is good, it keeps us warm and comfortable. I suggest we all drink some beer, get laid, and spend time with good friends and do the things you enjoy. There isn't much more than this if you think about it. This mess will get cleaned up somehow, and the world will continue as is. Most of the younger generation is getting a kick out of stuff like this, they don't particularly think much of what they've been given anyways.

    • combomelt combomelt

      "This mess will get cleaned up somehow, and the world will continue as is"

      • combomelt combomelt

        "Most of the younger generation is 'getting a kick out of' stuff like this, they don't particularly think much of what they've been given anyways."


    • bf9 bf9

      As part of this younger generation…you're dead wrong man. Within my circles and communities we seem to be far more concerned about this, at least to me. It's the first thing we discuss when we meet up for a drink. Your points are valid, but trust me…we're pretty concerned about this and more than aware.

    • FallOut FallOut

      Your wrong, my buddies son in high school is doing something with friends on the anniversary. The kids are not drinking the kool aid. Already learning about green energy, his teacher is talking about Fukushima.

      • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

        Awesome! Boy scouts and Girl scouts need to have Geigers and learn how to use them, they need to check the area before they lay down a tent in the woods, they need to map the ground. Unfortunately as Fukushima is still spewing, we will have to continue to update maps every time it rains, but it will be better than camping out on a plutonium or uranium hotspot that will fry their young eggs and sperm, mutating their not yet born, as they sleep. Or give them cancer, or rendering them infertile.

        This is reality.

        Our energy policy has caused this. Change that and we might have a chance.

    • Paulie, that is sure some troll like banter.

      There is no magic cleanup, and the millenials are probably a bit brighter than you give them credit for.

      I heartily disagree with everything you say.

      • Paulie777

        Green energy is another ambiguous term for the elites to expropriate land. "I'm sorry, the green energy initiative requires us to take this private land for our own use to better the community." Its happening already do the research. We did it to the indians and now they are doing it to private citizens. The schools are for lack of a better term brainwashing the kids so it will be easier for the ones in power to do so. Its a ruse, but really I understand it as there is no other solution, but the ones in power will definitely have their way. But that is off topic. Anyways, a mere human nuclear mishap won't kill us all, it will be the intentional human mishap a la conflict. Then we will see some real sweat coming from foreheads.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Paulie777, if your a women..what are you doing later? 🙂

    • 4Warnd 4Warnd

      Sorry – intended an erudite reply – but then suddenly just had a vomit, so decided not to post a reply to the poison posted heretofore.

      • Paulie777

        You posters want it both ways here and its irritating to say the least. The sad truth here is we have been in trouble since the 1950's. We somehow lost our way with the radiation thing and now we let it have its way, fresh air is a relic of the past. We've had a little bit of luck across the board since the 50's but now barring any invention we are at the last house on the block and unfortunately nobody's home. I suggest we all get off this site, enjoy life and pick up the gloom and doom stuff in about a year when the current stuff happening will be like a neighborhood cookout. Unfortunately the short list of nuclear conflict, EMP's fighting for resources, nuclear plume damage, will make life then majorly different from today. So grab a beer, grab a girl, and do something that you like!

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          Is the last house empty, can we get in, and do you have any beer?

        • 4Warnd 4Warnd

          Remarkable: a most troubling, depressing and, at once, enlightening post re: describing the possibility of a severe case of cognitive – dissonance resolution (i.e. some kind of habitable
          mental homeostasis).

          Very sad prognosis, or a HAPPY ONE, if: ?

    • Q1988 Q1988

      You had me until you mentioned "getting laid"
      Like Jeff Goldbloom in the 2nd movie "The Fly". The first item in his medicine cabinet under the heading of spare body parts, was his Johnson or first best friend. Somehow I just don't think I will have the drive.
      Bring on the medical marijane…oh! wait now I will get paranoid.
      I see no happy ending.

  • Graham Brimhall RadRainMan

    And the hits just keep comin'. Have you all noticed how these new "revelations" are coming out at the rate of 2-5 a day now. There's no way they're going to be able to keep the lid on this thing and they'er getting scared.

    As the truth continues to show itself, these "new" reports will materialize, as if they just figured it all out! "Wow we cant believe that this is happening… as above – "News came as a shock"! Who knew??? Just UNREAL

  • HoTaters HoTaters

    The flood of information on astronomically high radiation measurements has left me gasping, wishing I could go to high ground somewhere to avoid the flood.

  • An article from ENENEWS talks about Cesium release from Fukushima

    In the spirit of making thing easier to wrap your head around, lets break down the mumbo jumbo into easy to understand units.

    An online calculator that makes simple work of things.

  • the us war inc has been using DU munitions since 2002 at the least and we get fuku'ed as a payback. not much to bargain for when everyone worshipped westinghouse, ge and boeing vs not allowing the worst of them to doom us all.

    • Vince Vince Ivey

      Very true and you can add a lot of other things to that list, too.

      The fact of classifying a pre-born human as NOT human is pretty damnable, if ever there could be a thing to be damned for encouraging through an obfuscatory propaganda campaign.

      But digression; nuclear abortion seems to be the path we are on as species.

  • American Phoenix57

    Must watch YT "DU" videos

    Beyond Treason: Depleted Uranium & Anthrax Vaccines
    Depleted Uranium – The Ultimate Dirty Bomb
    Poison Dust – Health Consequences of Depleted Uranium
    Gulf War Syndrome – Killing our Own
    Military Secret Shots.

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      American57- I have seen BT, DU, PD, GWS, but not the last one. I will look for it. The point of these videos is that people need to understand that poisoning the population is standard operation procedure, so we shouldn't be surprised that it is happening now. :-/

      • American Phoenix57

        “The element of surprise which could delay the discovery of the great danger, and thus allow more plutonium piles to come into existence, is the fact that scientists are looking near the ground for fallout dangers. The greatest radioactive dangers are accumulating from eight to twelve miles up in the stratosphere. The upper atmosphere is already charged with death-dealing radioactivity, for which it has not yet sent us the bill. It is slowly coming and we will have to pay for it in another century, even if atomic energy plants ceased today.”
        (Russell, Walter and Lao. Atomic Suicide? University of Science and Philosophy. Virginia 1957 p. 18)

        The culling continues.

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture


    Getting worse and worse, not looking good.

  • rogerthat

    ah yes, the stress; here, have a happy pill, all will be well, be well, be well

  • Paulie777

    We send three men into space and spend millions for triple redundancy technology to make sure they get home safely. We make a nuclear plant and don't think it through and when there is a problem get homeless people to clean the mess. All the while poisoning large numbers of people. How hard is it to make sure a tank doesn't overfill?

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      If your all drunk, nobody really cares if the tank full of Nuclear shit overflows…

      • 4Warnd 4Warnd

        OBE: drunk on what do you propose?

        technology, money,raw power, command and control, immortality, morbidity or pure, stupid, hubris ?

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          Sure why not.. drunk, drowning in/on top of all of it!

          Party on! 🙂

        • Paulie777

          He means booze. The homeless guys were drinking and not paying mind to what they should have been doing. The nuclear engineers were sleeping in nice houses next to semi-pretty wives and full from a nice dinner and conversation with others. The Physicists were on an overseas trip to a conference. The managers were out at the newest restaurant. The unshaven homeless dregs that were on site watching the tanks got drunk and one guy got in a fight with the other and punched him in the face. He thought the other guy made fun of him, and since they were in a small dirty shack tensions flared, just like at the homeless shelter he came from. The other guys were in their small rooms sleeping on the floor, picking lice from their crotches and pissing out the door. The engineers and physicists were not there, their important jobs ended at 4:30 and they went on to their important lives.

          • clamshellernh clamshellernh

            I have been working with the homeless in my community for over three years , there are many components to homelessness , your remarks are deeply disturbing
            There are many in this country that are one paycheck away from becoming homeless

          • 4Warnd 4Warnd

            your amusing scenario spells the same:

            stupidity. ignorance. denial….maybe I should just review the venial and cardinal sins of the C.F. and throw in Hubris as a keystone on that pile of shit.

    • Livingonearth

      Nobody went into space further away than from space station

      Apollo was a scam with Nevada Deasert Moon Landing just to make us believe that ours dreaums in technology are stronger than reality.

      Read about " Paperclip " and see how nazi propaganda and agenda spread all around in every field of technology

      Waking up from dreams is painful and take a lot of efforts

      Courage and peace to all living creatures.

    • bf9 bf9

      @Paulie777 "We send three men into space and spend millions for triple redundancy technology to make sure they get home safely. We make a nuclear plant and don't think it through and when there is a problem get homeless people to clean the mess."

      Oh really? Triple redundancies for sending people into space…how well has that worked out over time?
      "About five percent of people who have been launched have died doing so"
      Sure, that one instance worked out…but much like nuclear plants we didn't just have one spaceflight. Odds begin to become a factor the more you play the game.

      We are not as smart and error-free as you seem to think we are. And I'd appreciate it if you stopped insulting my generation, the homeless, the Japanese, and any other demographic you've been spewing shit about for the last little while. Do you seriously think they don't even have the vaguest idea of what they're dealing with? I HATE humanity, believe me, don't make it any worse please. 😉

      Sorry guys and gals, been a little grumpy the last few days. I think that these readings are even higher yet in reality.

      • califnative califnative (NY)

        bf9 – no need to apologize, IMO Paulie777 is a TROLL:
        The Sad Truths of Internet Trolls:
        1. Trolls are immune to criticism and logical arguments. True trolls cannot be reasoned with, regardless of how sound your logical argument is.
        2. Trolls do not feel remorse like you and me. They have sociopathic tendencies, and accordingly, they delight in other people having hurt feelings.
        3. Trolls consider themselves separate from the social order.
        4. Trolls do not abide by etiquette or the rules of common courtesy.
        5. Trolls consider themselves above social responsibility.
        6. Trolls gain energy by you insulting them.
        7. Trolls gain energy when you get angry.
        8. The only way to deal with a troll is to ignore him, or take away his ability to post online.
        You cannot win with a troll. Publicly retaliating against them just fuels their childish need for attention. There are only 3 reliable ways to deal with trolls, all of which focus on removing their audience, removing their power, and depriving them of the attention they seek.
        Completely ignore the person's postings. While it is difficult for most users to let a troll have the last word, this tactic successfully takes the wind out of a casual troll's sails.

        • califnative califnative (NY)

          How Exactly Do Internet Trolls Abuse Others?

          Ans: internet trolls seek to be disruptive and hurtful by using any of the following techniques:
          1. Trolls will post abusive and hurtful comments directed at a specific person (aka "1. flaming" another person)
          2. Trolls will incite broad arguments and provoke angry responses by making controversial statements. (e.g. racism, religious intolerance, bigoted or elitist views, mysogyny, extreme political views)
          3. Trolls will narcissistically dominate conversations, trying to make themselves the center of attention. (e.g. nonstop comments about themselves and their accomplishments; repeated self-centered statements and bragging)
          4. Trolls will start many off-topic threads, seeking to derail users from the focus of an online community.
          Why Do People Enjoy Being Internet Trolls?

          Ans: it is a kind of power rush or ego trip to be a troll. Being online is a place that is largely free of perceived consequences… an insecure person can get a sense of power online, without ever having to face someone directly. With the Internet being a world of imagination and fantasy for some, cowardly users can forge an alter ego for themselves, and act out their feelings of anger and inadequacy.

        • bf9 bf9

          Noted! I was posting more for anyone reading this site that may actually buy into his point, but it would appear that is so and so I shall leave it at that.

          Back to work for me!

  • 4Warnd 4Warnd

    From Apocalypse‎ Now: "the horror. the horror."

    In the meantime, we are going to fetch sticks, and glance upward, with guarded suspicion, expectation.

  • byron byron

    Looked it up. About 900 liters per Ton.x 100 =90,000 liters x230,000,000= 20 Trillion. How does that compare with anything we've been told about before?

  • byron byron

    Then take 20 Trillion x 360,000 Tons in storage..

    • 4Warnd 4Warnd

      Byron (Gallic = Bear)

      Thank you for your computations: It appears that now Pandora has taken us all into her over-heating "box.


      An unlikely re-birth will ensue, with changes, un-welcomed and unanticipated, among many species.

  • rogerthat

    From Associated Press: ''TEPCO said about 100 tons of contaminated water overflowed through a rainwater drainage pipe, and plant workers attached a garbage bag to contain the leakage. It said the leak stopped after workers closed the valves and the water did not escape into the Pacific.''

    Okay, so the water did not escape into the Pacific. Unfortunately, to evade detection, this 100 tonnes of water has disguised itself as … water, and is mingling with the other groundwater, and will, in fairly short order, like all the groundwater flowing through the site, escape into the Pacific.
    But be not despondent, 100 tonnes is neither here nor there. There is another 370,000 tonnes in other tanks, just itching to escape. Tepco is itching to let it escape, and is being egged on by the International Atomic Energy Agency. So escape it will. Fukushima's entire nuclear inventory is in play, and there is no indication that anyone knows how to put it back in the bottle.

    • Q1988 Q1988

      "water overflowed through a rainwater drainage pipe"
      Why is the rainwater drainage pipe hooked into the waste cooling water storage facility?

      "It said the leak stopped after workers closed the valves"
      Who opened the valves and why?

      This place must be a plumbers night mare, in more ways than one.
      I understand from others that metal breaks down quickly when exposed to these high levels of radiation. The mickey mouse infrastructure, holding all this radioactive waste is going to crumble soon and flow into the pacific like a bad case of Montezuma's revenge but it will not be a feel better day. When the Pacific ocean is un-inhabitable and covers nearly half the planet where are we going to run to?
      It is hard to be optimistic.

  • 4Warnd 4Warnd

    Thanks, RRGTHT! make not not to be despondent, today! Since 19** of course, there has (will be) been a safe place for this stuff. To repeat (sorry): we now live in Pandora's box.


    • rogerthat

      Hope someone asked Pandora about that

      • 4Warnd 4Warnd

        No one needed to ask. Ms. Pandora welcomed us into her 'box' and is long gone – back to the gods with whom she may MOX with….

        re: wikipedia:

        Pandora was the first human woman created by the deities.[4][5] As Hesiod related the Pandora myth, each of the deities helped create her by giving her unique gifts. Zeus ordered Hephaestus to mold her out of earth as part of the punishment of humanity for Prometheus' theft of the secret of fire, and all of them joined in offering her "seductive gifts".

        heartbreakingly ironical.

        am planting my Spring garden next month. (!) Yeah!

      • 4Warnd 4Warnd

        I forgot. that's funny on your part!

  • The planet and the universe has been warned ever since at least the begin of the nuclear era. But Mahatma Gandhi has warned about the imperfect knowledge based corrupt modern civilization in 1908 in Hind Swaraj to the effect that the cumulative effects of modern civilization are bringing about the destruction of modern civilization itself. look, Fukushima has been also caused by the dams of the world. And more Fukushima, Chernobyls are certain. Omnicide.

    • 4Warnd 4Warnd

      Nvl: Few on this thread just now:

      My spouse says we live in the age of Kali, which you describe, and, apparently is pre-described. Of which, I do not necessarily subscribe…..but do so for harmonious relations!

      Many years ago, I once took sardonic amusing in an old Gary Larson cartoon: Ants dancing in the foreground on a leaf. Background: a city under a mushroom cloud! Life goes on. Today, less amused, of course.

      • @ 4Warnd
        February 21, 2014 at 3:38 am

        The comments above lead us to the following:
        Civilization evolves in cycles with our(all life and all that is) participation. We are diverse and full of life and then reach a climax and then lose our way till doom. The stillness or fallowness lasts for 4.32 billion years and then life commences again. Why not try stopping with our imperfect way of life and progress on a way of life that respects the truth: To see one changeless life in all the lives, in the separate, the inseparable. Instead of what we have been doing all these years:
        Seeing the separate existences and seeing them apart, thinking thats the truth.
        All eggs in one basket falsehood: electricity: To cling to one as if it were all, heedless of the harm, heedless of the consequences, narrow and dull and dark.
        The cycle continues.
        We can postpone the night after Fukushima and the continued dropping of nuclear waste into the biosphere? No.
        Then fall into the night.
        If yes, then stop modern civilization in its tracks and adopt the normal. See
        It would be worthwhile to adopt a normal civilization: Prduction, consumption and return with the bottom line: Habitat preservation.
        Forests are infinitely superior to dams:
        This way you prevent more catastrophes like Fukushima, assuming Fukushima will not go into infinite biological effectiveness for all time.

  • rogerthat

    All hail Gary Larson, simply the best

  • Sol Man

    It all seems very clear: as we sew, so shall we reap.

    No, all of us are not responsible for this failed technology being foisted onto the backs of the innocent, yet, here we all are destined to suffer together.

    Through it all I hope that we keep a level head as we await tomorrow's new headlines.

    Good night all.

  • atomicistheword

    From Germany…

    Nice graphics. 53 sec long.

    Atomruine Fukushima: Tonnenweise radioaktives Wasser freigesetzt

  • ftlt

    We are now seeing the evolution of a mature nuclear multi-reactor meltdown.

    Sit back and enjoy the show.

    Peanuts!!! Popcorn!!! Beer Here!!! Get Your Red Hots!!!!!

    Programs!!! Pennants!!!!! Beer Here!!! Cotton Candy!!!!

    Sounds like just about everyone has punted any hopes of even mitigation now. Arnie is talking like it is over now except the show to come.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Party on! 🙂

  • Gasser Gasser

    Bobby Darin: Splish Splash


    Splish, splash

    Not knowin' I was takin' a Tritium bath

    Long about a Saturday night… yeah!

Rub-a-dub relaxin' in the tub

    Thinkin' everything was all right.

    Well… I stepped out the tub
Put my feet on the floor

I wrapped the towel around me
And stumbled to the door.

    And… then-a… blue flash 
I jumped back from the bath
Well… how was I to know

    There was a Nuclear meltdown party going on.

    There was a crackln' and a fizzn'

    I was a reeln' with a bad feeln'

    Stopped moven' an started groanin'

    Fallin' down an a rollin'… agggah!

    Bing, bang

    I saw the whole NRC gang
Tellin’ lies on my liven' room TV

    Flip flop

    They was doin' the bullshit bop

    As Olympic teems were swimin' in a radioactive sea.

    There was Mr. Plutonium with-a Cesium Sue

    Good Golly Miss. Americium, was-a even there too!

A-well-a, with an immune system crash

    I realized the contaminated bath

    I went and put my Hazmat suit on… yea!

    I was a sweaten' when a strolln’
Reelin' with a bad feeln'

    Moanin' and a groanin’
Tossin' and a turnin'… aggah!

    Yes… I was a splished' with a Cesium splash
I was a rollin' and not strollin’

Yeah… I was stopped from moven'
I was a pukein' with a bad feelin'

    ~Gasser Classic~

  • Nick

    The tanks.

    What if some looney gets a shot-gun?

    How are you going to deal with that?

    The mass of water on it's way to the Pacific precedes the tank shit.

    Once the first wave hits, the tanks become moot to worry or fret about because it will be game over already.


    • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

      @ Nick;I have to admit that a few weeks ago I saw a post of yours that "seemed" offensive enough if directed to the majority of those who found there way to this site & stuck around adding our 2 cents should've been enough without explaining in detail what we think of 311 & the nuke-pukes who so thoughtfully gifted us with their profitable,slow-motion ELE. Then I read between the lines & began following your posts with the proper perspective & despite having been a bit irked by the way it was worded I noted where you stand on things & what you "meant" to set out to the masses & obviously intended for those who did or do fit into the category & for what it's worth to you I concur with you on all points and I hope you never go through the things that make me a bit "touchy" & defensive regarding the issues that bring me to the dark,hopeless place my mind & soul resides in that has already allowed me to know I'm doomed & may as well give up on living considering my life & dying loved one(s) & 311 impacts & implications have shredded any notions that I might have a future to look forward to even if I could fix my own life's(many,non-radiation-related) personal "meltdowns" currently underway and I have to add that I apologize for seeming that MY dying wife,our spontaneously aborted,would've-been,1st grandchild & many losses are all I can see or feel because I feel ALL of your pain & wish I could ease or prevent ALL of the suffering occurring & set to ensue… 🙁 ..

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Another tsunami, and the shock of all that rolling over land and then out to sea will finish Japan, and the Pacific. When it gets to California it will toast them, too. If a tsunami happens before Japan's planting season, all the stockpiles of pesticides will go into the mix. What we have here is a bear trap, ready to spring. And everything will be a bear.

  • Nick

    If you are new to this site and you haven't gotten a pit in your stomach from these threads, chances are you are a nuke puke.

    If you feel like you are about to puke, welcome to the party pal!

    The lining of the human intestine is composed of rapidly dividing cells, the very ones most susceptible to ionizing radiation.

    Stomach virus is a useful foil used by TBTB.

    What is really going on is a rapid discharge of dead cells from your gut.

    The nausea that you feel is real.

    The metallic taste in your mouth is real.

    The urge to vomit or the desire to defecate will become harder to control as the weeks go by.

    A great purge awaits us all.

    • Gasser Gasser

      Local drug stores now sells handy pocket packets of Portland Cement to stop the public street squatting Fukushima shits…hurry! before supply runs out.

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        Suppositories, I suppose. First radiation underwear, and now this. Next they will sell underwear that you squeeze and crush in an emergency, with your hands, and epoxy mixes together and glues your ass shut.

        I wonder what kind of hydra these politicians gaze at when their hearts turn to stone.

    • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

      +311 again Nick & add a row of exclamation points to it for me! I'd laugh at the gaggle of jokes by the others in this thread if it didn't hurt so much & have me needing to check my cesium-encrusted fruit of the looms! 😉 I'm gonna go back to wallowing in self-pity & loathing now! Thanks,Take Care & wishing the best for ALL of you!(whatever the "best" could be under the present & forthcoming circumstances(?)!! Have a pleasant weekend everyone.

  • 52Rockwell

    All I got to say,is,I went and bout me an old Vhs /DVD player today so I can watch all my old Godzilla movies on VHS, and my Tai Chi ,Yoga, and Karate instructional Videos.
    I rented a rear tined rototiller and I'm plowing up the back yard. ..5acre of Texas clay and rock. not all of it, I aint got no help but my Son, and he wants to go in the United States Navy. I told both my neighbors next door I would lend them the tiller , and I called my Mexican buddy at work and asked him if he wanted the tiller after i am done. The Mexican was the only one interested :). Hmmm. Now I know who my friends are.

  • 52Rockwell

    Drinking Wine Fodeodee drinkin. Wine Wine Wine.
    No Worries here. Shit the is no way I could have affected this shitstorm with any personal action on my part.So Now I'm just along for the ride . I'm doing my bucket list. Got a Flight from DFW to Tucson on the 15 March and I will consume a brew of 18 Peyote buttons if I can. .Got Scuba certified last year gonna do some of that. Take my boy deep sea fishing.Go back to 29 Palms and Joshua Tree again,I got a list. It has a lot of other stuff on it. Eat ,drink and be merry. And charge up those credit cards:).

  • 52Rockwell

    I really feel for all you younger folk. I'm staring Death in the face anyway and should have done this stuff years ago. But , remember, I have Grandchildren ,and children your age and this Fukushima shit is tearing my heart out if I think about it too much.
    I have a favorite Granddaughter named Raylee. She and I go to our local Zoo once a week, and it is a very special time for me, and Im pretty sure, she digs it too.

  • 52Rockwell

    From Godzilla vs. Mothra How can we kill Godzilla. Commence A plan. All aircraft attack Target.
    Good try boys .
    Im gonna eat another Burritto.:)

  • 52Rockwell

    I will not give up. I want to save my kids. Esp Raylee, the adolescent chick in my avitar

  • sworldpeas

    So… 100 tonnes is equal to 100,000 liters times 230 million bq is a whopping 23,000,000,000,000 bq (trillion) of "beta-ray emitting substances, consisting mainly of strontium 90" in this spill alone. Tepco has started a chain reaction that can't be stopped. I foresee lots more spills. This truly is an ELE, the planet can not sustain this.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    "Only 7.6 million times the governments permissible standard."

    If they can just get that down to 7.6 million times the standard, the government can raise the allowable limit, and they'll be fine. Call me when there's a real problem…

  • Sickputer

    Followup on this main thread story:

    "Tokyo Electric Power Co. has determined an unidentified worker at its crippled Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant left valves open along a conduit, which resulted in 100 tons of highly radioactive water overflowing from a storage tank, sources said Feb. 21.

    While the utility at first said valve malfunctions could not be ruled out, it concluded the cause was human error after examinations of a photo and water level gauge records.

    Three valves line a conduit that sends radioactive water into the storage tank that overflowed. Two of them were open and the remaining one was closed when workers spotted the leak at around 11:30 p.m. on Feb. 19.

    Radioactive water normally cannot flow into the tank unless all valves along the conduit are open. But water did flow in, leading TEPCO to initially suspect a malfunctioning valve."

    SP: Easy to blame human error, but the lack of backup protocols and equipment is what doomed the plant in the first place. Along with really bad engineering advice.

  • Transcript of Main Body of Video Presentation.
    Fukushima Dairy Report on Recent Events at Fukushima

    ie, 100 T Leakage of Highly Contaminated Water, that's,
    24 Trillion Beq of all beta nucleides most of which was absorbed by the ground
    includes Strontium 90 which is known to cause Leukemia
    TEPCO says, it hasn't reached the sea, but that's TEPCO speaking as always [cannot be trusted].
    Ultimately we will know the consequences.
    The Tank is located on the mountain side of the facility 700 meters from the sea side.

    ***"It was not a Leakage but an OverFlow"***
    The contaminated water flowed off the top of the tank.
    The tanks have a lid but there is space for air and an overflow pipe.

    ***"What happened was Not An Accident."***
    This is new information about this event.
    The leakage was discovered just before midnight on FEB19.
    TEPCO was attempting to transfer highly contaminated water to another tank, but, accidently the water went to
    a full tank which resulted in an overflow condition.

    ***"This is Very Strange."***
    At a press conference on FEB24 TEPCO admitted it was caused by the wrong settings of the values.
    A Value that should have been turned OFF was turned ON.
    Another Valve that should not have been turned OFF was turned OFF.

    • So the water was directed th wrong way to cause the overflow.

      ***"Nobody knows why."***
      Nobody knows Who did it.
      Nobody knows who, how or why someone did it.
      But someone had to have done it.

      So as the water proceeded to overflow the tank, the alarm TEPCO installed about 6 mo ago went off.
      So the FUkushima workers went to check the tank and didn't find any problem.
      9 hours later the water started overflowing and a worker found out.
      After that a TEPCO employee went to see the area to see what was going on but when he got there the valve
      settings had been corrected so that,
      The value that was ON had been turned OFF.The Value that was Off had been turned ON.[corrected positions]
      Someone had corrected the value settings before the TEPCO employee came to the tank area.
      At the press conference TEPCO said no one was supposed to be working in that area and no one was supposed
      to touch the value. So they don't know who did it.

      On the 24th TEPCO was busy interrogating the workers to resolve the mystery but no data have emerged to date.
      BUT IN THE PICTURES the tool, the lever, to change the value was still on the value and it shouldn't be left
      in that position as someone walking by could change the direction of the value.

      Considering the great risk the employees of Fukushima would be in resulting from such a serious event it seems
      unlikely that they would do this. But someone did it.
      TEPCO is investigating the problem.

      • TEPCO was supposed to report the ALARM event, just before midnight on FEB19, to the NRA but failed to do so,
        which would have stoppd the overflowing.
        So many mistakes, so may errors involved.
        But the cause of this severe accident is the possibility that someone might have touched the values for some reason.

        End of Fukushima Dairy Transcript of Feb24 2014.

  • Sickputer

    I don't know that I had seen this photo before of the Feb. 20, 2014 tank water leak repairs:

    SP: Can you imagine being the workers handling those berm efforts? That is truly Liquidator work.

    Workers are at deep health risks working in such conditions. I applaud their efforts and bravery.

  • How is this February 20 story getting 2k+ reads today, June 24? And so early in the morning. Strange.

    FYI to new folks, Fukushima is an ongoing nuclear meltdown catastrophe x3. All governments and most media have enacted secrecy. For those wanting to get the rad word out, you are implored to visit and share these links

    Easy to print and pass out.
    Or leave randomly, where ever you please. Distribute liberally.
    As part of the People, it's your duty.

    Other methods and 14 pages of rad rad remediation remedies

    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      I don't know ..but for such a supposedly lousy thread…it's still the lead story 3 days later.

  • 23skidoo 23skidoo

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